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SC junks petition vs constituent assembly

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by Tetch Torres
Inquirer.net

The Supreme Court has dismissed the petition filed by two lawyers seeking to nullify House Resolution 1109 which seeks to convene lawmakers into a constituent assembly, even without the approval of the Senate.

In its ruling, the high court said the issue on the constituent assembly was premature and lacked a justiciable issue.

The petitioners – lawyer Oliver Lozano and his daughter, lawyer Evangeline Lozano – said HR 1109 was railroaded by the House of Representatives to extend the term of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo beyond 2010.

“The railroaded HR 1109 is unconstitutional or bogus for deviation from the prescribed procedures to amend the Constitution by excluding the Senate of the Philippines from the complete process of proposing amendments to the Constitution and for lack of thorough debates and consultations,” the Lozanos said.

“The nullification of HR 1109 will refocus the nation’s attention to find alternative solutions to the economic crisis, poverty, hunger and rebellion… Wherefore, it is respectfully prayed that HR 1109 be nullified in the interest of public welfare,” they said.

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92 Comments

  1. From Parañaque Rep. Roilo Golez:

    I had maintained from the start that the Lozano petition was filed out of turn.

    I think the justiciable controversy would arise if the House alone submits a proposed amendment to aplebiscite, but in my opinion will never happen, i.e. won’t reach that stage without participation.

  2. jocjoc jocjoc

    Ituloy na, para magkaalaman na kung hanggang saan ang pasensya ng mga pinoy.

  3. Ace Ace

    The ruling of the Supreme Court was unanimous and it was expected even by the Con-Ass congressmen. I doubt the motive of the petitioners, I think they are in cahoots with the Con-Ass congressmen as they intended to find out how long will the Supreme Court decide on the petition and not the decision on the legality of the resolution so as to draw a strategic timeline before the 2010 election catches up with them.

  4. chokaran chokaran

    Pgma if she runs for congress will become speaker of the house. she will the be Nancy Pelosi of the Philippines. sosyal. matalino siya, pwedeng itapat kay Nancy Pelosi.

    Tapos pag nangurakot ang susunod na pangulo and vp, the people will clamor for their resignation, then voila pgma will become president again!!! bongga diba!!! i love it!!! i prefer gma than the others. at least si gma alam na natin ang buhay buhay niya yung iba, mga dangerous na ewan. mga ambisyosyo

    Bravo pres. gloria!!! yan ang sukatan ng leader, hindi tumatakbo, power is power!!! she is now level with alexander the great, attila the hun, joan of arc, gandhi, etc. a true leader will never give up power because he knows that power could be transferred in the wrong hands!I salute gma, mas nakakatakot if the power is transferred to the others. let pgma hold on to power until we find a suitable replacement. saludos!!! bravo bravo supreme court!!! tama yan wag kayo magpagamit sa mga non entity like lozano. he cheapens the law profession!

  5. Chokaran, take note that I changed the case of your comments. Please don’t capitalize your comments. It does not make for easy reading. Pangit tingnan.

    As I have said time and again, bloggers here are bright. They understand statements even if tehy are not capitalized.

    Thank you.

  6. chokaran chokaran

    sorry madame. i just want to emphasize my point. saludos!

  7. Golberg Golberg

    “The nullification of HR 1109 will refocus the nation’s attention to find alternative solutions to the economic crisis, poverty, hunger and rebellion… Wherefore, it is respectfully prayed that HR 1109 be nullified in the interest of public welfare,” they said

    Nullified nga. O may ibig sabihin pa ang mga hukom tungkol dito.

    In its ruling, the high court said the issue on the constituent assembly was premature and lacked a justiciable issue.

    Premature daw at walang dapat pag-usapan sa panig ng mga hukom. Tama ba? Nasaan po ang mga abugado natin dito para mabigyan ng pakahulugan ang mga salaysay na ito ng Kataas-taasang Hukuman.

  8. Elgraciosa Elgraciosa

    Chokaran:

    Bongga ka! From where are you coming from? Aren’t you aware of the HUNGER and sufferings of the lowly, the extra-judicial killings done to the journalists and militants, the corruptions, stealings, and all kinds of pangungurakot done by GMA and her co-horts? Kung sa iyo, OK lang ang mga pangyayari sa bansa…aba’y bongga ka nga….isama ka na ring ipa-bongga sa canyon!!!

  9. perl perl

    “Isang bansa na hindi sinusunod ang mga batas, isang bansa na sirang-sira ang moralidad dahil sa corruption”
    – Chief Justice Reynato Puno

  10. Chokaran: Hanga ako sa iyo,marahil nalilipasan ka ng gutom,na dulot ng iyong iniidolong leader ng bansa,kaya ang iyong pag-iisip ay wala na sa katinuaan.O baka ka-chokaran,ka ng mga “ROBBING HOODLUMS”ng kaban ng bayan.

  11. chokaran chokaran

    elgracioso,

    dahling, the last time ive heard ,the philippines is still a democratic country. hindi iligal ang humanga kay gma. tapos!

  12. chokaran chokaran

    alam niyo mga ka chokaran, ang pilipinas is a matriarchal society. hindi ugali ng pinoy na bastusin ang babae like pres. gloria. never! para na rin kasing binastos natin ang nanay natin if we do that. kaya never niyong mapapabagsak si ate glo. she represents the filipina mothers. look at lola meldy marcos kahit anong baho ang ilabas sa kanya, pag nakita siya ng personal talagang bow ang tao sa kanya at talagang tahimik ang lahat, why? dahil she’s like lola to everyone. how can you attack you own lola diba?

  13. So ibig sabihin tuloy na si Prime Minister Gloria Arroyo. Hehehe. Sus mar yosep daig pa sa rugby kung dumikit sa pwesto. Baka matuloy na yung sinabi cj Puno na sasabog na ang bulkan.

  14. chokaran, Si Nancy pelosi laos na pulitiko yan sa states. Dumikit lang yan kay Obama kaya nanalo sa California. Matalino ba si Pelosi, tanong mo na lang sa Fox News Channel anchors na sina Bill O reilley, Sean hannity et al.

  15. Chokaran huwag mo naman i compare si Ate glue kina gandhi,alexander the great attila, baka bumangon sila sa hukay hahaha. saka yung mga nabanggit mo di naman nandaya sa eleksyon, walang zte, fertilizer scam at siyempre walang asawang ganid sa pera.

  16. ghos whisperer ghos whisperer

    hahahaha! chokaran, kachokaran ka siguro ni gloria sa kanyang pandarambong kaya ganyan mo sya kamahal. why bite the hand that feeds u, sabi nga nila. ur a willing ass kisser of tita gluering. hahahaha

  17. Willy jade Willy jade

    abugado ba si lozano? bakit mga petisyon nya sa supreme court binabasura..look at impreachment complaint he filed, nagsayang lang ng oras..o baka gusto lang sumikat..yong mga pulpol na abugado dapat i disbar..nanlilito at ginugulo ang utak ng mga pinoy

  18. Ka Enchong Ka Enchong

    Folks, let’s not gang up on chokaran. He’s right. This is democracy. Pwede s’yang humanga at sumamba kahit kanino niya gusto.

    Basta ako, I wouldn’t even give him the dignity of a respose.

  19. Willy jade Willy jade

    kung sino may gustong kasuhan si GMA after er term… walang makakapigil sa inyo..yoong alas nyo ay ganito..maski maging congesswoman, senador, mayor, governor, parliamentarian, speaker of the house, o prime minister si gloria, pwede syang bitbitin sa husgado lalo na kung ang penalty ng crime nya is pinishable bey presyon mayor or higher to life like doon sa plunder case?..walang legislative immunity dyan…unless palitan na naman ang konsti para maiwasan ang kulong…pero prove muna na may kasalanan sya…defensa..executive immunity from suit due to act of state..?we will see after 2010

  20. chokaran chokaran

    any person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. if youre a learned person you will know better than cast aspersions on other people. let the courts decide on pres. gloria after she leaves office. lets give the presidency the respect it deserves. i may not agree with her 100% but i will fight for her right to be given the benefit of the doubt. kahit prostitutes have rights mga kachokaran.

  21. ofw ofw

    chokaran,oo bilib na bilib ka kay gloria, na i am sorry na hello garci,maraming scam,bribe lahat ng katarantaduhan ginawa na niya para manatili sa puwesto at hangang-hanga ka,ikaw lang yon?

  22. Ka Enchong Ka Enchong

    …defensa..executive immunity from suit due to act of state..?

    Saying “hello” to Garci is an act of state? Evidence? What did Aling Gloria apologize for in her famous “I…am…sorry” telecast in 2005?

  23. Elgraciosa Elgraciosa

    Tama nga, free kang humanga sa mga taong ka-Chokaran mo! Kaya kayo ng magsama ng Chokaran mo…iyung-iyo na!
    P.S.

    Isama mo na rin yung lawyer n’yo…si Atty. Lozano!

  24. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Premature – no justiciable controversy. Ibig sabihin, wala pang dapat idemanda; the Supreme Court only decides actual controversies.

    Kung buhay pa ang paciente, at wala namang suffering, you cannot sue for malpractice. Kapag patay na, or nabulag because of the doctor’s operation, that is the only time you can sue.

    What does it mean? It means the con-ass can go on, if the congressmen want to proceed. But this will still be iffy, because there is no ruling that says they can constitutionally do so. It actually disrupts the conmen’s timetable.

    With a favorable ruling, they could have proceeded with the stamp of legitimacy of the Supreme Court. Now, it is back to the drawing board.

    Impliedly, the Supreme Court is saying, walang kuwenta ang demanda mo, we will not dignify it with an answer. Dismissed.

    If it were denied, at least lumaban ka. A dismissal says it was not even “tried” – there were no hearings, no order for the Sol Gen to file a comment.

  25. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    As Enrile said, the HR is only a call to convene, there is no act yet, that needs to be nullified. It’s like, for instance, the Congress, in a resolution says, it wants to tax the poor more than the rich; 40% income tax for the poor, 10% income tax for the rich. Note the Constitution says taxation shall be progressive (more from those who earn more).

    Now that is only an intent. Is that basis to go to the Supreme Court? No, because you cannot nullify an intent. How about if a law is passed, with Senate agreeing. Puwede na bang mag-demanda? No because there is no act yet. You are asking the Supreme Court to render an advisory opinion (advice before action – Sir, puwede ba naming gawin ito?).

    So when do you sue? When filing time comes, and the BIR is about to implement the law, then you can sue on the basis of unconstitutionality of the law.

    Why the long wait? Because the other branches of government may act to stop the injustice; so the Supreme Court waits, because it is the last resort.

    What do I mean by the other branches acting? Well the President (the office, not Glue) may veto the law. The Congress, in an act of conscience, may repeal the law before it takes effect.

  26. Sige lang chocaran at willy jade. This is a free country. We are free to make fools of ourselves and choose our own idols. Banal na aso, santong kabayo. At, kanya-kanya tayong diskarte para kumita. Pero kung nakapeperhuwisyo na sa iba, dapat ikulong! Sana…

    For once, tama ako. The SC did not humor the administration. Si Lozano lang ang nanalo. Kumita na naman. Kaya premature ang mga demo. Hindi pa Con Ass ang kalaban. Si Gloria pa rin. Let’s conserve our strength. Let’s not cry wolf when it’s Evil that’s on the loose. Let’s use our coconuts.

  27. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Hindi puwedeng sa bawat kibut dudulog sa Kataas-taasang Hukuman. The Supreme Court is not the consultant of the other branches.

    What is the practical effect? Tuloy ang con ass kahit na walang saysay. If the conmen want to look stupid, that is their prerogative. It is a free country. You can choose to look as stupid as you please.

    The Supreme Court has no authority to restrain people from displaying their stupidity; that comes under freedom of expression.

  28. So what if the Con Ass goes on? It’s just another exercise in futility at our expense. As usual, we can’t do anything about it, except perhaps boot them out come 2010. Alas, this would not be the case. They will win because they have the money. Remeber what the golder rule is? Gold rules.

  29. roger roger

    whatever the decision of the sc,,, we must not relax,,wait for them to convene???…might be too late… remember how they railroad things ,,faster then a bullet train…
    should let them know that it will not prosper,,let them give up…thier silly ideas..dapat
    lahat ng kababayan ng mga congresisita nag vote dyan sa con ass, kalampagin nyo mga bahay nila

  30. chi chi

    Hindi puwedeng sa bawat kibut dudulog sa Kataas-taasang Hukuman. The Supreme Court is not the consultant of the other branches. – Atty Sax

    ___

    Niloloko lang ni Lozano ang SC, perhaps testing the waters dahil punong-puno ito ng bffs ni Gloria.

    Sige, ituloy na ng mga estupidong hinayupaks na manhid sa Tongresso at nang matapos na. Tutal ay pinatikim na natin sila ng initial rally na kahit ano man ang sabihin nila na maliit sa bilang sa nayayanig sila. Alam nila na sa maliit nagsisimula ang malaki, maliban kay Gloria Arroyo na mananatiling maliit sa size at katauhan!

  31. Raul Raul

    alam mo si lozano et al ay mga kulang sa pansin para pag usapan sa media. dapat yan wag na pansisin. kaya lang don kumikita ang media sa controversy. hanap- buhay ,ang yan1

  32. That was the intention of Lozano when he abruptly filed the petition with SC knowing that it was still premature. So, now that the SC has given the go signal to the Bitch’s house allies to to have a Con-Ass, these crooks now have legal support on their side. But to my mind, SC only cited premature petition as the reason. Once the House actually convenes Con-Ass, then the opposition could still file another petition questioning it. Bear in mind that Lozano is Imelda Marcos’ lawyer. Imelda is currently fighting for the return of her jewelry. If you connect the two, you have the answer.

  33. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    I think the SC has merely told Lozano et al that there has been no rape yet. So what are you doing here? Go home and let’s wait for the rape.

    The SC is obliquely sending a message to the House of Rapists.. okay, you announced you are going to rape. No need to ask our permission. You got your pants down already. So rape. Darn it!

  34. Exactly, Phil. The act has not been committed yet. Once the House acts on that, then the SC will render a different decision. Everything is not lost yet. But it once again unmasked this fucking Lozano for jumping on the issue much sooner just like what he did to the past impeachment complaint. Lozano is a Marcos loyalist and lawyer of Imelda.
    The Marcoses are now the Bitch’s close allies. Look at that Rep. Romualdez who’s now with the Bitch traveling abroad.

  35. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    And the reason why they’re asking permission to rape is because they know it’s a crime and they could all go the prison for it… and they just needed a scapegoat to be blamed if they actually committed the rape.

    Poor SC justices. Scapegoat Justices.

  36. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Again this is bringing arrogance and stupidity to new heights. Plotting to make the SC as their Scapegoats.

    I sincerely hope and pray that the SC doesn’t join the act. Because this could be the tipping point everyone has been talking about. And both institutions may not come out of this in one piece.

  37. bitchevil bitchevil

    With SC Chief Puno still there, SC is in good hands. But then, he’s the only one among those other justices who are Malacanang’s dogs. Pretty soon, another new dogs would be added to the two SC vacancies.

  38. ron ron

    Di ba nga pakawala ng malakanyang si Lozano, ibig lang sabihin nito na con-ass will psh through, kaya dapat kumilos alam naman natin ang malakanyang pailalim kung trumabaho..

  39. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Sabi ni Erap (Tribune online), “If she runs, I will run.”

    Pang-asar lang, why doesn’t Erap build a house in Lubao?

    Let them have a direct battle.

  40. We knew this would turn out this way very early on. I first predicted it here in Ellen’s blog that Lozano will file in the SC, which he did, less than 8 hours after the House vote. He is part of the plan.

    We also predicted it here that it will be thrown out of SC since a justiciable controversy has not come up yet, the resolution merely reiterates what is already an existing and inherent power granted by the constitution. No harm, no foul.

    It is wrong to conclude however that the SC has given the go signal to ConAss as commented above. They can, of course, push it through but I doubt they can find a way do it without the Senate.

    The SC must be commended thus far, they know people are very much aware of the consequences of their deciding otherwise. Everything is still according to game plan. Just like a predictable opening line in a game of chess, the thinking begins only when one side deviates from the traditional moves. Let’s see how they do it.

  41. sax,
    Her frequent visits to District 2 is very obvious I wouldn’t assume she would have us easily second-guess her moves. That is practically a giveaway.

    Knowing how her think tank works to employ every squid tactic in the books, I’m more prone to believe she is planning to run somewhere else, maybe in Iligan where Garci’s boys still hold sway. Or maybe in QC since she still owns a house in La Vista. Makati is not an option since she will be competing with Teddy Locsin or any of Binay’s handpicks who are sure to trump her congressional bid.

    She may seem unbeatable in Pampanga, but look, Among Ed clobbered all her candidates there.

  42. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Tongue:

    So why not “surround the city from the countryside” a la Mao.

    Let somebody well-known in the CDO-Iligan area “move” to Iligan, like Koko Pimentel. Another in QC, (Herbert Bautista is he with the opposition?), Erap in Lubao. Pang-inis lang. Anyway, you will just need to rent an apartment in the area.

    Like Muhammad Ali said, stick that jab. It disrupts their planning if they have to respond to the jabs.

  43. I heard that the Lozano Petition is not only premature but the filers themselves are “cerebral deficient” according to Atty. Marquez, SC spokesman.

  44. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Secretary Silvestre Bello III said the Palace joins the SC in declaring that there is no justiciable issue as yet.

    The Cabinet secretary also pointed out that the dismissal by the high court of Lozano’s petition is also a confirmation that Lozano is not a lackey of Malacanang.

    Freudian slip?

    Are you saying that had a lackey filed the petition, HR 1109 would have been upheld? How does the dismissal prove that Lozano is not a lackey?

  45. chi chi

    Kung si Kris Aquino kaya ang itapat kay Gloria sa distritong napili ng bruha? Kung gusto ni Kris na tumulong (muli) sa Pinas ngayong adult na s’ya, yan ang pwede niyang gawin. Malaki ang pag-asa na maitaob niya sa Pampanga ang unana at hindi “pang inis lang”. Huwag lang siya muling magpabayad ng P20M (ba?) gaya nung 2004!

  46. chi chi

    Hala! Tuliro na naman ang kampon ni Gloria na gumawa ng stupid justification na hindi nila lackey si Lozano. Bistado!

  47. Balweg Balweg

    Well! Chokaran tutal free of charge naman ang maghayag ng saloobin at exempted sa VAT kaya so be it, pero ang pahirap na rehime e talagang tisod sa pag-unlad ng ating bansa at kita mo naman ang paghihirap ng kapwa mo ka Pinuyan.

    Mahirap magbulag-bulagan sa katotohanan, alam mo ang problema sa ating bayan ang daming pasaway at kunsintidor…alam na mali yong ginawa o ginagawa ng kapwa Pinoy o kapamilya e tolerate at aayudahan pa.

    Dapat kasi, kapag mali ang takbo ng kukote e kailangang turuan ng leksyon…kundi makuha e dapat palimanaw ang katapat.

    Marami kasi sa ating lipunan ang hirap espelengin, hay naku…mapupundi tayo sa kanilang ka ek-ekan sa buhay. Pilosopo na e tangengok pa sa katwiran at di kayang panindigan ang katotohanan.

    Si GMA e walang mandato ng taong-bayan upang pamunuan ng Pinoy…alam mo yan, not ONCE but TWICE, di ba! Dapat panagutin yan sa EDSA DOS sapagka’t dito nag-ugat ang lahat ng kawalanghiyaan ng mga tongressmen at kurap/sinungaling/magnanakaw na taong gobyerno, militar/kapulisan at sino pa?

    Ang sinungaling kasi e mahirap pagkatiwalaan at di pwedeng ipagsapalaran ang kapalaran ng ating bayan…kita mo nagkakaletse-letse tuloy ang ating pamumuhay.

    Ang daming kasing Pinoy na ang utak e nasa ilalim ng kanilang talampakan…at numero uno namang reklamador sa buhay. Walang paki sa mga nangyayari sa kanilang lipunang ginagalawan at ang alam lamang e makipagtsimisan o kaya manood ng teleserye sa tv.

    Bayaan mo…may takda din ang lahat ng kawalanghiyaan ng mga pasaway sa ating lipunan. God is alive forever more! AMEN.

  48. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    The Supreme Court should disbar this lawyer for ignorance of law. Parang abnomal itong Oliver Lozano palaging premature ejaculation.

  49. Nograles says they will go to each Senator and explain the ConAss, man-to-man. Now, Senate employees are saying they will be convincing the minority bloc of Villar, Cayetano siblings, Joker and Pimentel and their other pro-admin majority senators to constitute the Senate contingent. Pimentel will be pro-ConAss if his Federalist proposals will be adopted. Arroyo and Villar’s Grease, er, Greece meeting probably was about this. And Cayetano’s trip with Villar, too.

    Hmmm…kaya ba tahimik si Pimentel dito sa ConAss?

  50. AbKi AbKi

    saxnviolins says,….- June 16, 2009 7:05 pm

    >>>>>Now that is only an intent. Is that basis to go to the Supreme Court? No, because you cannot nullify an intent. How about if a law is passed, with Senate agreeing. Puwede na bang mag-demanda? No because there is no act yet. You are asking the Supreme Court to render an advisory opinion (advice before action – Sir, puwede ba naming gawin ito?).<>>>>What do I mean by the other branches acting? Well the President (the office, not Glue) may veto the law. The Congress, in an act of conscience, may repeal the law before it takes effect.<<<<<<<
    **********************************************

    Assuming of course we are NOT talking about “this” evil regime.

  51. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Nograles says they will go to each Senator and explain the ConAss, man-to-man. Now, Senate employees are saying they will be convincing the minority bloc of Villar, Cayetano siblings, Joker and Pimentel and their other pro-admin majority senators to constitute the Senate contingent.

    Talagang ang ignorance of the law is a continuing offense.

    The Senate, as a body, must authorize the Senators to convene in joint session with the House. Kung walang Senate authorization by way of a resolution, those Senators will be individual guests of the House, not representatives of the Senate.

    In fact, even in a Constitutionally mandated joint session (the SONA), both Houses authorize themselves by way of resolution to convene. In fact, that is the first job of the Secretaries, of the House, and Senate, when session begins.

    Talagang piensa con ass ang mga gago. Kaya cerebrally deficient daw, sabi ni Puno; that applies to Lozano and the puppetmasters pulling his strings.

  52. AbKi AbKi

    A glitch again….ignore the above….sorry

  53. Defense lawyer Trixie Angeles said the testimony of Maj. Gen. Jonathan Martir should lead to the exoneration of the officers from the charge of mutiny and their release from detention.

    “There was no order nor there was any move on the part of the accused officers to march to Edsa. Based on the statement of General Martir, there was no movement at all. This is a hostile witness already. He is basically saying they took a vote and the vote is they will not go to Edsa,” Angeles said.

    – Malaya

    So bakit hindi pa idismiss, yan?

  54. AbKi AbKi

    saxnviolins says- June 16, 2009 7:05 pm

    Now that is only an intent. Is that basis to go to the Supreme Court? No, because you cannot nullify an intent. How about if a law is passed, with Senate agreeing. Puwede na bang mag-demanda? No because there is no act yet. You are asking the Supreme Court to render an advisory opinion (advice before action – Sir, puwede ba naming gawin ito?).

    Does Oliver Lozano and his daughter, Evangeline, speak the same legalese you do ? As a non-lawyer, I fail to see why on earth this dynamic duo did what they did and looked ridiculously stupid in the process. And even if we say Oliver, for one, is a Malacanang stooge, how many times can he endure looking like a moron (unless he really is one) ? And assuming he is not (a moron), why hasn’t he been barred from his law practice for his ignorance and incompetence ?

    What do I mean by the other branches acting? Well the President (the office, not Glue) may veto the law. The Congress, in an act of conscience, may repeal the law before it takes effect.

    Assuming of course we are NOT talking about “this” evil regime

  55. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Assuming of course we are NOT talking about “this” evil regime.

    We are a government of laws, not of men. Whether it is a “saint” who is President (name your picks – Cory, Magsaysay, Roxas) or a sinner (you know who), the law applies as well.

    So the Constitutional mandate that the Supreme Court may only decide actual controversies applies, whether your President is Danny Lim, Fred Lim, or anak ng lagim.

    Note above, I said the President may veto a bad law – President means the office, not this woman. Similarly, Congress is that inanimate body that represents the people. It is only incidental that there are thieves manning it. But the principles of law apply, whether the Congress is manned by people, the likes of Peping Diokno and Lorenzo Tañada, or by vultures like the current occupants.

  56. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Gusto mo ng quote, Abki? The tags are:

    text, text, text

    Type the above without the quotation marks.

  57. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Sorry it was interpreted.

    Dapat (blockquote) text, text (/blockquote)

    Substitute the brackets with the less than sign (left side), and the greater than sign (right side).

  58. sax, ang logic daw e if a portion of the Senate will lend credence to the assembly by participation even without the required numbers and a corresponding resolution, they can’t be faulted that they were unilateral. In my count, there can be 8 pro-ConAss Senators, 11 tops, counting who have not spoken against ConAss so far and Villar’s core group, plus Pimentel.

    Let’s forget first who signed the Senate resolution against ConAss, the possible collaborators:
    1. Lapid
    2. Revilla
    3. Miriam
    4. Zubiri
    5. Angara
    6. Honasan
    7. Villar
    8. Cayetano, Alan
    9. Cayetano, Pia
    10.Arroyo
    11.Pimentel

    If there are 11 also in the other side, Enrile’s vote would be crucial to break the deadlock.

    The oppositors:
    1. Lacson
    2. Roxas
    3. Escudero
    4. Legarda
    5. Biazon
    6. Trillanes
    7. Aquino
    8. Estrada
    9. Madrigal
    10.Gordon
    11.Pangilinan

    A new Senate resolution passed by a mere majority is not far-fetched therefore, given that for a considerable amount of tongpats, some may jump to the other side.

    Notice how the Villar Group has toned down its criticism of ConAss.

  59. Mike Mike

    As far as I know, Alan & Pia Cayetano and Pimentel will thumb-down con-ass. I’ve heard them thru radio interviews after the anti cha-cha rally and they seemed determined to reject outright when the con-assers from the lower house would submit HR-1109 it to them in the senate.

  60. bitchevil bitchevil

    And to think that the solons led by Nognogralez are now wooing some senators. There’s a possibility that it might even passed by the Senate. All it takes is one Senator to join the convening of House resolution.

  61. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Nasaan ang mga organizers? Puro rally-rally, gasgas na yang people power.

    They should move the people to file a people’s initiative. There are only 220 congressional districts. That means only 220 groups to get three percent of the voters to file only two amendments:

    1. Con ass requires a separate vote.
    2. Any con ass may not propose term extensions for any elective position.

  62. ipaglaban_mo ipaglaban_mo

    lol! that gloria being compared to nancy pelosi of california? well, i guess they’re both bitches in general…
    but, one is evil(gloria), the other one is just plain stupid. i’d rather have the stupid bitch in an island with me, and the evil one; i’ll just feed her to the sharks…

    buti pa sa iran, nagproprotesta mga tao sa galit. sa pinas, nasa mall lang naghihintay ng grasya para mapaalis si gloria. 🙂

  63. roger roger

    a crime has not been commited…(no rape yet)//anu yan rape with consent?hehehe

  64. chi chi

    Ganyan ang batas, habang walang rape ay walang kaso. Tayong mamamayan ang mag-prevent ng rape dahil alam natin na kapag pinayagan natin na mangyari ang rape ay tuloy-tuloy na.

    “An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure”.

  65. Point is why is Lozano doing it? He has been doing this kind of stupid thing for years and his name has been held not for good but for evil. Why in the world is this man and now even his daughter not bothered by it? Kung sabagay, “Like father, like daughter.” Saan pa ba magmamana ang anak kundi sa mga magulang? Kawawang mga nilalang. Hanggang kuwarta na lang ba?

  66. nahnah nahnah

    Baka may milagrong gawin si Pimentel, hindi bat last hurrah na niya? Hindi kaya siya sumunod sa mga katagang ‘if you can’t beat it, lick it’. Nuong naging spokesperson o lawyer ba, whatever, siya ni Villar, medyo bumaba ang hero image niya para sa akin.

    Sa mga Cayetanos naman, ahhh, wag masyadong maniwala sa mga sinasabi ng mga iyan. Iyon ngang mga kahon kahon daw na ebidensya ni alan tungkol sa bank account ni FG sa Germany, ay kailang kaya niya bubuksan, kung hindi isang pagbibilog lamang niya iyon nuon para maging senador. Mga anak nga ng ama nila ang mga iyan, kung alam nyo na ibig kong sabihin.

  67. Rose Rose

    chokaran: Hala bira..keep going and I hope you all will be choked by your greed of power…sana matulog kayong lahat ng mahimbing at mabangungot kayong lahat and hindi na gumising..take your power with you to hell..rest in peace! and lie still…Gloria!

  68. Tilamsik Tilamsik

    Sumulong ka Anak Pawis…. huwag alintanahin ang sugat sa dibdib. Durugin si Gloria at ang mga “Chokaran” niya.

  69. florry florry

    The SC provided the opening for the con-ass men to create a justiciable issue. Tuloy-tuloy na ba ang paggawa sa stairway to heaven in Gloria?

  70. Valdemar Valdemar

    Sigue lang, magtry and try lang baka may tumama sa mga petition ng Atty Lozano. Basta may kita.

  71. Mike Mike

    In fairness to the SC, they don’t have any choice but to trash the Lozano petition since there is no justiciable issue yet, thus finding it premature. That is part of the con-assers strategy.

  72. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    There’s a new term in the dictionary. “oliver”.
    Definition: “a cerebrally deficient person”.
    Verb: “oliverize”.
    Synonyms: “moron, ignoramus…”

    Don’t ever ever name your children “Oliver.”

  73. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    And so it has come to this… ever getting closer to the edge. The key players who could stop the Con-Ass are:

    1. The Senators
    2. The Supreme Court Justices
    3. The Military
    4. The People

    Who will budge?

  74. totingmulto totingmulto

    chocaran,

    taga malakanyang ka! bwisit ka!

  75. Rose Rose

    magkano kaya ang price ng bawat senador..mayroon din ba silang pork barrel? or will the money go to their pockets?…seguro mas malaki kasi 24 lang sila…

  76. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Rose,

    The Pork Barrel of a senator is P200,000,000 a year and that of a congressman is P70,000,000 a year.

    In the Golden Orinola years, it was reported that the usual commission was only 10%. Now it is reportedly about 40%.

    You can easily compute how much a “pork hungry” lawmaker makes a year aside from his salary and other perks.

  77. tiago tiago

    The Lozano petition is DOA at the SC. Everybody knows that! This is one way how the Lower House is fooling the people. Make it look like the SC is favoring the legality of the Con-Ass sans the Senate.

    Saya talaga dito sa Pinas. I wonder how much the Lozanos was paid.

  78. baycas baycas

    The Legislative Department = two collegial bodies each having two important functions.

    Collegial bodies*:
    (1) Senate
    (2) HOR

    Functions:
    (1) to enact laws, the legislative function
    (2) to propose amendments to the constitution, the constituent function

    Or, to characterize or illustrate it in some other way (possibly visual and tactile)…

    The Testicles = two friendly balls each having two important functions.

    Friendly balls*:
    (1) Right
    (2) Left

    Functions:
    (1) to produce testosterone, responsible for male virility
    (2) to produce sperm, responsible for male fertility

    Of course, there is also a difference because the two collegial bodies of the legislature NEED each other to function UNLIKE the two friendly balls that can exist solitarily.

    — *The Senate was once located higher than the HOR but each of these bodies (and balls, for that matter) may actually be considered higher than the other depending on one’s perspective (or anatomy).

    —–

    Oh, how the Pro-ConAss’s wished they were The Testicles of a young man…

    because The Testicles never cease to function even with a unilateral castration!

  79. chi chi

    Nice post, baycas. Natawa ako na seryoso!

  80. potpot potpot

    my bloggers din palang bayaran ni gloria like chokaran… what a shame….excuse me.

  81. bitchevil bitchevil

    Have you seen Raul Goonzalez’s testicles?

  82. Rose Rose

    Phil: Thanks for the info..I will not be surprised if the senators will join Con Ass Club..ang lagay ay chicken feed lang para kay putot..barya lang ang 200,000,001..to get the majority votes…What Money Can Do indeed.
    ..Be: mayroon ba bang testicles si siraulo? Akala ko pinalitan din noong nag kidney transplant at napalitan ng sa unggoy..in a photo I saw when he was ousted as DOJ “daw sa amo ang itsura niya.” sa bisaya unggoy=amo. At ang kanyang kasimanwa na si brenda..matalino pa sa matsing…they are a perfect matsings (a perfect match)

  83. baycas baycas

    Yeah, the pro-ConAss’s did nothing illegal but were they being ignorant and ignoble like the Lozanos by “fomenting a Constitutional Crisis for the sake of Constitutional Clarity?”

    Mr. Justice Blackstone has remarked that the intention of a law is to be gathered from the words, the context, the subject matter, the effects and consequence, or the reason and spirit of the law. He goes on to justify the remark by stating, that words are generally to be understood in their usual and most known signification, not so much regarding the propriety of grammar as their general and popular use; that if words happen to be dubious, their meaning may be established by the context, or by comparing them with other words and sentences in the same instrument; that illustrations may be further derived from the subject matter, with reference to which the expressions are used; that the effect and consequence of a particular construction is to be examined because, if a literal meaning would involve a manifest absurdity, it ought not to be adopted; and that the reason and spirit of the law, or the causes which led to its enactment, are often the best exponents of the words, and limit their application.
    Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States By Joseph Story

    The 2 keys “All the Members of the Congress” (Par. 1, Sec. 1, Art. XVII) and “All the Members of the Congress, voting jointly” (Sec. 18, Art. VII) should have clinched the lawmakers’ understanding of when the Congress vote separately or jointly. Needless to say that in the former key the Congress votes separately…for why would the words “voting jointly” must be added to the latter key?

    What was the intent of the commissioners when they wrote the Constitution? It’s basically to uphold bicameralism and thereby preserve check and balance.

    Further to that, I believe it is their intention to safeguard the nation from ignorant and ignoble lawmakers to rape, ravish and rip the Constitution!

  84. baycas baycas

    nawala kasi. buti nagpalit si ma’am ellen…wala ng password 2x. madali nang pumasok.

  85. I wouldn’t call Lozano stupid. Kagaguhan ba ‘yang kumikita ka sa ginagawa mo? Ano ba naman ‘yang matawag kang moron, kung doon ka naman binabayaran?

    Phil Cruz, we do not need anybody to stop the ConAss. It is dead meat from the start. Can one chamber produce a sound without the other? Can any of them legitimize an appropriation? How can a phoney ConAss finance a plebiscite? Furthermore, it would be suicidal for any Congressman to openly push for it, hence: another round of P20 million for each of them would not be enough to make them expose their insatiable greed.

    Yet HR 1109 is not an act of stupidity, but of guile. It proved that people power is passe. Or made it impossible to muster a really massive and effective one. It distracted us from the real issue: Gloria. She can now finish her term unmolested. It showed that the SC may not be expected to do her bidding. It showed that we are like kittens, chasing everything that moves.

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