By Dennis Gadil
Malaya
New witness Leo San Miguel yesterday said he had no direct knowledge about the alleged $41 million in advances made by China’s ZTE Corp. to the “Greedy Group” of Benjamin Abalos Sr. in exchange for the approval of the national broadband project.
“I’m not aware of any kickbacks or ‘lagayan’,” San Miguel told the Senate tri-committee of blue ribbon, defense and trade, which is investigating the overpriced project.
Previous witnesses Jose “Joey” de Venecia III, Rodolfo Lozada Jr. and Dante Madriaga, who were present at the hearing, said San Miguel was lying.
Sen. Panfilo Lacson, who had talked with San Miguel a number of times before the latter’s appearance at the Senate, also said San Miguel was lying, an assessment echoed by a number of senators.
San Miguel, an engineer, said his involvement in the NBN-ZTE contract was purely technical and his knowledge about the contract did not go beyond “technical matters.”
San Miguel said he is the technical consultant of ZTE, not Madriaga.
Madriaga earlier testified that the “Greedy Group” of Abalos, received from ZTE advances amounting to $41 million, half of which allegedly went to President Arroyo and her husband Mike.
He said he learned all this from San Miguel, who was his superior and the one who recommended him to ZTE as technical consultant.
Madriaga said the other members of the Greedy Group are San Miguel, Ruben Reyes and retired Gen. Quirino de la Torre.
But San Miguel said Madriaga was only tapped to provide technical inputs on the NBN framework that was submitted by losing US-based bidder Arescom, where Madriaga was the consultant.
“It’s not true. He’s not the consultant (because) I’m the one paying him. I cannot accept that,” San Miguel said.
He also denied signing a document supposedly showing the engagement by ZTE of his and Madriaga’s services.
San Miguel showed his signature on his credit card to the Senate tri-panel to prove that the signature in the document was not his.
He also denied authoring an electronic mail that he sent to Madriaga in July 2006 which described the “tongpats” (“patong”) or overprice in the NBN-ZTE deal.
San Miguel said commissions were a “standard” arrangement and that he heard the advances being discussed “among themselves.”
Pressed by senators who he was referring to, San Miguel retracted his statement, saying that he never heard this being discussed by Abalos, Reyes and De la Torre.
San Miguel, however, said it was possible that “commissions” awaited those involved in the NBN project.
“You know, no person would work for something without getting compensation. And there are people who have roles to play,” he said.
He said Reyes’ role was to help facilitate and expedite the project on the government side.
“It appears like he’s the local guy,” he said.
He said Reyes told him that money could be made out of the deal.
“Pare may konting kita rito,” San Miguel said, quoting Reyes.
San Miguel admitted seeing then Planning Secretary Romulo Neri to present the ZTE proposal. He said Neri initially expressed reservations on the ZTE proposal.
He said he did not meet Mike Arroyo.
San Miguel said he stood to get a “success fee” of 1.5 percent or $1.6 million of the $329 million NBN deal won by ZTE.
He said on top of it, he would be refunded by the ZTE of the expenses that he incurred in the course of packaging the project.
San Miguel said so far the ZTE has refunded him P4 million.
He said he is not aware of the extent of Abalos’ involvement in the project but stressed that “he’s helping.”
He said he had five to six meetings with Abalos, which at the Wack Wack Golf and Country Club in Mandaluyong. One meeting took place in the Makati residence of former Speaker Jose de Venecia.
“I don’t know the relationship of Ruben Reyes and Abalos,” he said.
He refused to say if Abalos was indeed brokering for ZTE but noted that Abalos was frequently talking to ZTE officials.
San Miguel said the perception was that it was ZTE which approached Abalos for help.
San Miguel denied being present in Wack Wack sometime December 2006 when Mike Arroyo had a verbal tussle with the younger De Venecia III, where the former told the latter to “back off” from the deal.
But De Venecia said San Miguel was in the same room with Abalos, Jaime Paz, de la Torre and Transport Secretary Leandro Mendoza when he met the First Gentleman.
OBVIOUSLY LYING
Lacson said he was surprised by the denials made by San Miguel.
Lacson stressed before the Senate hearing that he never described San Miguel as his “surprise witness.”
“I never said he’s the surprise witness. There’s a subpoena,” he said. “I’m more surprised than disappointed.” he later told reporters.
“At the outset, pwede kong sabihing hindi totoo ang sinabi niya. . .Tthat much I can say, hindi totoo ang sinasabi niya. Ibang tine-testify niya.”
Lacson said during his meetings with San Miguel, the new witness talked about “kickbacks” and “irregularities” in the NBN-ZTE deal, which were even backed with “materials” that were handed to him.
He did not elaborate what the materials were.
Lacson said something might have happened between 11 p.m. Monday to morning of Tuesday, which prompted San Miguel to change his mind.
He said he met with San Miguel on the eve of the resumption of the Senate hearings. Before that he met San Miguel three times.
He said a common friend called up San Miguel in the morning of Tuesday and said over the phone that he was under “intense pressure.”
Lacson said the “pressure” could only come from Malacañang or Abalos.
BUM STEER
Lacson took exception to remarks of Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile before Senate media that he was given a bum steer.
“No, I don’t feel I’ve been had, he’s a real witness,” he said.
In the hearing, Lacson declined to refute the testimony of San Miguel.
“For purposes of this committee hearing, I will neither confirm nor deny (what he has said). I want to preserve the goodwill or what ever is left between Mr. Leo San Miguel and myself,” he said.
Lacson nonetheless willing to divulge his discussions with San Miguel in a closed-door meeting with his fellow senators.
San Miguel told the Senate joint committee that his first meeting with Lacson was by accident in a hotel in Mandaluyong where they were both attending separate meetings.
San Miguel said he knew Lacson way back when he was still PNP chief and when De la Torre was comptroller.
“O kumusta ka na? Halika mag-usap muna tayo,” San Miguel recalled Lacson saying.
San Miguel said they ended the conversation with Lacson asking him to produce De la Torre and “see how he’s doing.”
He said he brought with him De la Torre to their second meeting evening of March 3, where Lacson and De la Torre talked about the latter’s health and going to the Senate to testify.
“We told him (Lacson), we don’t have invitations, why should we go (to the Senate)? Essentially that ended the meeting,” he said.
San Miguel said the third meeting took place March 9, a Sunday but without De la Torre in attendance because “he was not feeling too well.”
He said the fourth time was evening of Monday.
The new Senate witness said he did not talk about irregularities in the NBN-ZTE deal.
SURPRISED SENATOR
Senate majority leader Francis Pangilinan said it strains credibility that San Miguel did not divulge information on the NBN-ZTE deal during his four meetings with Lacson.
“I’m a surprised senator,” Pangilinan said during a break in the hearing.
“I’m the one surprised here,” Escudero said.
Sen. Manuel Roxas II, trade committee chair, said San Miguel appeared not to be telling the truth.
“Hindi kapani-paniwala ang sinasabi niya,” he said.
Blue Ribbon chair Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano, said the hearing nevertheless proved that San Miguel was indeed a consultant of ZTE and his testimony was relevant to the probe.
Lozada said that in meetings where San Miguel was present, “lahat napag-usapan, except for technical” to belie San Miguel’s assertion that he was purely a technical person.
De Venecia said he was disappointed but said San Miguel is “a member of Gang of 4.”
LIE DETECTOR
Before the hearing closed late evening, San Miguel accepted the challenge of the other witnesses in the NBN-ZTE probe to undergo a lie detector test.
“On the challenge of lie detector test, absolutely, anytime,” San Miguel told the Senate tri-panel on the query of Sen. Mar Roxas.
Roxas said San Miguel controverted all the testimonies given by the three other witnesses led by Lozada.
He said a lie detector test would put to rest who among the witnesses were feeding “lies” to the Senate joint panel.
Roxas also said he would tap an international lie detector company to undertake the test.
Lozada and Madriaga said they are willing to take the lie detector test.
De Venecia kept mum on the challenge.
Lozada said he found it incredible that San Miguel could describe his relationship with Abalos as “only casual.”
“Sabi niya 2 to 3 meetings sila ni Abalos at hi, hello at goodbye lang. Pero ng tanungin siya ni Sen. Enrile ay 5-6 times (sila nag-meet ni Abalos),” he said.
Lozada said “commissions,” “kickbacks,” “bukol” were discussed during his meetings with San Miguel and.
“Ang pinag-uusapan po doon, komisyon. Andun po si Mr. San Miguel,” he said.
He said San Miguel was always “within hearing distance” during those meetings.
Cayetano said San Miguel was being selective in remembering his dealings with Abalos.
“Nung isa pong senador ang nagtatanong, halos hindi nyo alam kung ano involvement ni Mr. Abalos, pero nung si Sen. Enrile, ay malinaw niyong naalala ang ginawa ni Commissioner Abalos,” Cayetano said.
PHONE RECORDS
Sen. Jamby Madrigal also proposed that San Miguel authorize the release of his phone records by mobile companies just like what Lozada has agreed to.
Cayetano said also asked San Miguel to agree to the release of his phone records from 11 p.m. of Monday to morning of Tuesday.
Lacson said that someone reached San Miguel between this period, which prompted him to change his mind.
Lacson opposed the proposal, stressing that it would be useless since SIM cards could be easily replaced or tampered.
San Miguel said he was willing to authorize the release of his phone records but on a limited basis only.
Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita and Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye dismissed the Senate appearance of San Miguel which they said did not actually come as a surprise.
Deputy presidential spokesman Anthony Golez lamented the Senate’s “allegation by installment,” cautioning them against being “burned” if they continue to present witnesses without requiring them to back up their claims with evidence. – Dennis Gadil and Jocelyn Montemayor
Succees fee of $1.6 million is Leo San Miguel’s commission. Not bad for just staying with Abalos, Dela Torre and Reyes. Of course, after meeting several times with golfing (commission) buddies, each one can issue a denial as having no knowledge of whatever they had been talking about – hole in one.
Parang international players din ang mga pinoy sa dating ng commission. In major corporations, big projects are decided over golf and not anymore in boardrooms.
Leo San Miguel like provide snippets, like Reyes’ “pare may konting kita rito” and at the same time denial king on any irregularities.
Oo nga naman, commission is not anymore irregularities but it is a standard rule.
Leo San Miguel knows nothing about $41M bribes but he admitted commissions were a STANDARD arrangement and that advances being discussed among themselves.
Honor among thieves.
INCREDIBLE!!! San Miguel was LIAR!!!
I’ve watched the Senate proceedings through ANC all day long and all I could say is that San Miguel WASN’T a good LIAR! It was very obvious that he was not telling the TRUTH at all.
I couldn’t blaim him though! He is associated with the EVILBITCH whose GREED is beyond REDEMPTION! INCREDIBLE, they are indeed!
Yep! San Miguel is a LIAR.
He can say commission is standard but he is not getting any.
Yep! San Miguel is a LIAR.
He can say he is meeting for several occassions with Ruben Reyes, Abalos and retired general Dela Torre who are all excited on what he can tell them only about technical aspects. As if Abalos, Reyes and Dela Torre are techie persons… haha. Excuse me.
I hate be the one to say it, but Senator Lacson just been had. He was set up by the evil bitch Gloria bunch. Leo San Miguel exactly knew what he was doing, he ain’t no fool.
Leo San Miguel was hired by China’s ZTE Corp. as a consultant without signed contract. Believe it or not, this is unusual for a big corporation to hire a contractor without formal agreement and paid cold cash for his reimbursements and services. No paper trails or issued checks to pin them down. It seems that Leo San Miguel is working with Mafia-like operations.
Yep! San Miguel is a LIAR.
He said he is not aware of the extent of Abalos’ involvement in the project but stressed that “he’s helping.” Helping who??? Helping how??? and for how much???
Like I once said, the opposition need to get up early in the morning to outwitted the evil bitch. She didn’t get to Malacanang for being stupid. I’d like to think so, but records shows otherwise.
Abalos helping who$$$
Abalos helping how$$$
Abalos, the comelec guy is a big bucks $$$ helper.
Exactly, Diego!
For 4 million pesos, Leo San Miguel was reimbursed for imagined expenses without any paper trail. It beats the brain out of the BIR.
LEO SAN MIGUEL A GREAT LIAR…
I believe it was a set-up to discredit the ongoing ZTE scam Senate investigation. Malacanang dirty tricks department at work. Ginawa nilang gago ang mga senador at taumbayan. Kahit mayroon pang signed affidavit puedeng itanggi ni Leo San Miguel. Sabihin niyang under duress or pressure kaya niya pinirmahan ang affidavit.
The BIR is not getting tax on any of the $1.6 million success fee of Leo San Miguel because it is under the table, either.
In the philippines, commission is tax exempt…. hehe.
Nauna na si Evil Bitch at ang Zte before Lacson got him! Leo San Miguel is laughing all the way to the bank! He got something from the Evil Bitch and a LOT from China for sure! China has to cover up the corruption at all costs. China can not afford to continue being caught in the corruption that they are in day in and day out! What they can not get away with in the US and Europe, they can get away with easily with their poor Asian neighbors! Kung ano ang gusto ng China nakukuha niya sa mga corrupt na katabi niya. Pretty soon, if the poor Asian countries are not careful, annexed na sila sa China. China has the money to pay anyone and anyboby to silence them. I am not surprised that all the “greddy plus plus” are taken cared of not just by the Evil Bitch but by China itself so the corruption will not be exposed.
Yep! San Miguel is a LIAR.
He can make a bad practice “tongpats” (patong) into a noble cause “success fee”.
Haha!
Naghamon si Sen Roxas na i-subject sa lie detector test si Leo San Miguel. I was surprised when he said yes! Madriaga said he is willing to undergo a lie detector test too. Let us see who is telling the truth!
Dodong, the e-mail sent by Leo San Miguel to Madriaga is a good proof that Leo knew the monetary aspect of the ZTE. Huling huli si Leo sa pagsisinungaling!
One of the things this witness San Miguel proved or confirmed was that Abalaos was there everywhere where NBN-ZTE dealing was concerned. What was he taking the trouble to be there for? Common sense says it was all about commissions for him but ‘konsumisyon’ for the filipino people.
Well, the anticipated bombshell from San Miguel was a dud. Maybe the opposition should not talk of surprise witnesses next time, just let those witnesses do the talking.
Being a former PNP Chief and with vast knowledge of intelligence works, Senator Lacson should have known better. He got screwed by this Leo San Miguel. Next time, he better be more careful in getting witnesses ’cause it’s possible they are also planted by Malacanang.
The truth is, all the “greedy plus plus” know all the bystanders. These people are already tipped off to the Evil Bitch and China. For sure even the waiters who were serving food at the Wack Wack restaurnat at the times Joey said he was there would have been profiled and neutralized if needed. Ganyan ang Mafia gang, very efficient in neutralizing! The gang probably thought that Joey, being the son of the tengang daga who was in cahoots with the Evil Bitch in almost all the anomalous transactions would not come out and expose the ZTE. But he did!
The Evil Bitch through her mafia gang thought that Lozada was neutralized as well but they were wrong! So with two strikes, the Evil Bitch and China have mobilized all its resources to make sure that everyone who was ever present in any of the ZTE meetings will have to be ABSOLUTELY taken cared of(silenced, abducted, bribed or simply vanished!)
Ellen,
He may claim that he has no first hand knowledge, i.e., didn’t see the money pass hands or the paper trail but the man must have second hand knowledge; he could always tell the marines that he knows nothing!
As a technical consultant, he is aware of the costs of the project; no way he can say he doesn’t — if he’s dumb, he should try adding one plus one or subtract, i.e., two minus one (original cost vs final cost.)
So this guy is lying if he says he doesn’t know or is not aware!
When challenged to a lie detector test, Leo San Miguel readily accepted the challenge. Actually, lie detector test is not that reliable.
Leo Lucifer ang “surprise witness.” Pakawala ng mga demonyo na nag mula sa Malakanyang. Halatang nagsisinungaling pero maganda yan para malaman ng masa kung sino talaga ang nagsasabi ng “KATOTOHANAN”. Mahirap magpanggap ang isang kilalang matalino na nagtatangatangahan kaysa sa isang TANGA na nag papanggap na matalino.
May mga anak ba si Leo San Miguel? Ano kaya ang pagkakilala nila sa kanilang ama? Maraming pera no doubt…
Monkey 1: I hear nothing; Monkey 2: I see nothing; and Monkey 3: I say nothing..well, in his case three in one…grease money…
As we all know sa mundo ang lahat na bagay ay may ending; lahat tayo ay mamatay; ang pera ay hindi madadala sa ating pagkamatay..we all want to know the truth, however, madulas ang katotohanan..ang sabi nga “the truth will set us free..God is the truth; and He will set us free..”
Leo has a son who’s helping him in his business. Leo could have gotten hooked to the world of criminal syndicate like Mafia that it’s extremely difficult to get out after getting in.
omigod!!! They are under oath!!! Naive at tanga na lang (katulad ko) ang naniniwala sa word na ito “oath.” Did they swear on the Bible too? Parang wala ng kahulugan ang mga ito kapag ang katumbas na ang peer pressure at pera/pulitika. Ano ba itong mga so-called “gentlemen’s agreement”??? Mas may integrity pa yata ang mga gangs sa Tondo. Naka coat and tie pa!!! Puro image!!!!!! Bulok naman ang mga karsunsilyo!
Oath has become useless. Most if not all of Malacanang’s witnesses who appeared at the hearing lied under oath.
The Philippine Senate should file perjury case against Leo San Miguel and other Gloria Arroyo officials who perjured themselves during the Senate Committee hearing on NBN-ZTE broadband scam. I don’t know the number of actual prosecution for perjury. The Sandiganbayan acquitted President Erap on perjury charges. Dapat sampolan para may leksyon ang mga sinungaling under oath.
Revised Penal Code
Art. 183. False testimony in other cases and perjury in solemn affirmation. — The penalty of arresto mayor in its maximum period to prision correccional in its minimum period shall be imposed upon any person, who knowingly makes untruthful statements and not being included in the provisions of the next preceding articles, shall testify under oath, or make an affidavit, upon any material matter before a competent person authorized to administer an oath in cases in which the law so requires.
Art. 184. Offering false testimony in evidence. — Any person who shall knowingly offer in evidence a false witness or testimony in any judicial or official proceeding, shall be punished as guilty of false testimony and shall suffer the respective penalties provided in this section.
Mr. Leo San Miguel is a liar. The file attached to his email to Mr. Madriaga cannot be forged unless it is downloaded, edited and emailed back to Mr. Madriaga.
It is not true that one can edit the attachment on the fly as claimed by Mr. San Miguel. I’ve tested this in the past and it’s not possible.
After all is said and done, San Miguel CORROBORATED the testimonies of the 3 other witnesses (and Neri’s) that Abalos was involved in the ZTE meetings/discussions. Even if San Miguel says that he does not know if actual bribery took place, I think that this is a very important piece of information that people are not giving the proper attention…the attention is on the that fact that the surprise witness was a dud, etc. which plays into Malacanang’s “telenovela” spin.
Magkano ba Leo Sanmig ? Aminin mo na magkano ba binigay sayu o ano ba binigay sayu ? Baka yun bagong range rover model ang binigay sayu na may laman CASH pa na nakalagay sa brown envelope.
” I know nothing about $ 41 Million bribes…” says Leo San Miguel.
the ZTE/NBN broadband project cost was padded by NOT LESS than 100 million whooping US dollars, to accommodate fixers—both in and out of the government.
former NEDA chief Mulong Neri himself said this much, albeit in so many words.
whistle-blower Jun Lozada, then a consultant to the NEDA and privy first-hand to the negotiations allowed us, the public, to understand in graphic details, how the original cost of 100 million dollar levels ballooned (more than) twice over.
thus, i believe the guy, Leo San Miguel, in this particular regard— a lone unadulterated truth, among heaps of lies.
it’s NOT $ 41 mil; it is at least, 3X that much
No matter how many times this San Miguel denies knowledge of the 41M dollar bribe, everybody knew all about it and how he tried to convey another message from the one that came out of his mouth. Mukhang takot na takot din magaya kay Lozada.
Time to do something about this Mafia government. Hindi na puede ang kalokohan ng mag-asawang ganid. Please, kilos na!
They were talking of the pakipkip which is customary among Asians as a matter of fact. Over in Japan, the gratuity is 15%, and it can be legal based on some unwritten law “para walang utang na loob” so to speak.
I don’t know how much is the supposed gratuity in China, but what the crooks must have thought of doing was convince the Chinese to pay the hiked up price and then ask for the desired commission that would be the legally allowable hiked price that the Chinese government would be willing to lend the Philippines to pay the ZTE based on the price the crooks had dictated to the Chinese, who are now silent on this crooked deal because they actually lose nothing!!!
Filipino naman ang magbabayad sa totoo lang in cash and in kind. In this case, the Spratlys!!!
Ang gulo di ba? Kasi akala ng mga hayup, lahat ng pilipino, hindi marunong magbilang, at lilituhin lang nila sa mga figures, lusot na sila!
Sarap sanang magmura pero may panata kasi akong di ko na sasabihin ang PIN mura . Pakimura na lang, please!!!
Kahit sabihin mo pang nagsinungaling iyan si Leo sa senado, may napatunayan pa rin sa kanyang mga salaysay; ang kaugnayan ni Ben Burjer sa ZTE deal and the existence of a “greedy group plus plus.” Iyon nga lang, naisahan ‘ata nito si senador Ping Lacson. Leo lied, but he is willing to undergo lie detector test. What for “to justify his lying under oath in the Senate?” Just to give in to one’s curious mind, hindi kaya intoxicated at kargado ng San Mig products si Liar, este, Leo ng kausap siya ni senator Ping at bigla na lang nagkaroon ito ng amnesia sa mga napagusapan-napagkasunduan nila nang humarap na ang pobre sa Senado? On the other hand, ako man ay naniniwala na hindi rin basta-bastang maiisahan iyan si Ping. Hindi niya kaya nairecord/naivideo man lang ang pag-uusap nila? Ginapang man si Leo upang magsinungaling, hindi pa rin sila nakasisiguro. If ever, kay Ping pa rin ang huling halakhak.
Ikaw na lang magmura, grizzy. Mas masarap pakinggan kung galing sa yo. Natural na natural e. Atsaka namimiss ko na ung pagmumura mo dito.
Dr. Kwak, di raw yon nirecord ni Lacson.
uncvlized, hakahaka na naman yan.
Hindi ba mayroon San Miguel Marca Demonyo? As some one said Lie Detectors will not prove anything. And San Miguel did not prove he lied..we saw that he deed…
To those who laughed because to them San Miguel won..ang huling halakhak ay when “the truth will set us free.” And God rules His people with justice..not Death of Justice Secretary..Not Ombudsman Merceditas..In God’s time the truth will be out and He will set us free..
Jerz,
Tag team ba kayo nina Duren at Happy Gilmore? Pare-pareho kayo ng style, mang-asar at mang-insulto dito sa blog. Nagsasayang lang kayo ng pagod dahil di na matatakpan ang katotohanan, ang kaswapangan at kasakiman ng amo niyo na si Evil Bitch at ng kanyang pamilya.
Kung sa bagay, sa hirap kumita ngayon iintindihin na lang namin ang mga tulad ninyong umaasa sa mga balato ni Evil Bitch at ni Lulli the Rabbit sa inyo.
Hehehe!
AKALA KO BA KALABAN NI SAN MIGUEL ANG MGA DIMONYO
KABARKADA PALA NI SAN MIGUEL ANG MGA DIMONYO
Lol
Suwerte ng mga GREEDY GROUP nagpapasasa sa tongpats na inutang nila para sa bayan na babayaran natin.
lEO AND GREEDY GROUPS SANA BUMUKOL SA KATAWAN NG MGA ANAK NINYO YAN. SI ABALOS, TROUBLED MIND NA YONG KANIYANG APO.
Its a matter of choice for San Miguel. Lose everything including life or a smart liar sans glory but with money. Besides, the truth layer is already occupied (by San Lozada).
I am a technical consultant, too. All the engineers I hire to help me in a project are all consultants with respect to the client. Even my driver’s ID says “consultant”. Why is he denying Madriaga the title. Oh well, semantics! Just to make the other engineer look bad.
Then San Miguel is lying or he isn’t even an engineer. He just violated the code of ethics for engineers.
Andres, di pa nga ako nababalatuan e. Hahaha.
Gusto nyo sumali sa “greedy group ++”?
Uy, nahiya pa sila. Gusto nyo rin ng “tongpats” e.
by the way, parang ang hirap naman talaga palitan yun attached message sa email. meron ba dito marunong gumawa nun, na nasa inbox pa. pls let me know. thanks
Hindi mahirap yan kung alam mo ang password. Hindi ko naman paniniwalaang Telecoms expert si San Miguel kung ipinamimigay niya ang password ng email niya.
Malware lang at phishing ang magagawa mo para makuha ang email password. Pero bago yun, kailangan munang makuha mo rin ang IP address nung target.
Pwede mo munang padalhan ng trojan yung computer ni San Miguel. Yung trojan, pag lumusot sa mga scanner, ang magpapadala sa iyo ng mga data gaya ng password. Tapos pwede ka nang mag-open ng email ni San Miguel at magpadala ng pekeng email gamit yung IP address niya.
Marami iyan ifs or buts. Mahaba-habang proseso yan. Maraming dapat malusutan gaya ng anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, etc. Kung paghihirapan mo rin lang namang mamekeng email, bakit hindi pa email ng mga komisyon ng Gang of Four ang pekein mo? Bakit tong-pats lang. Wala pang amount, diba? Bakit hindi mo rin isama yung pangalan ni Gloria or Mike para mas maligalig, logic lang.
Hay naku! I saw the news on 24 Oras thru d2 sa Kaharian & this morning at NBN Tv (replay kung saan talagang halatang bias ang TV na ito. Bagay nga ang NBN na titile, national bais TV.Pwe!). Yan si Leo Son Devil, nangbubu-raot lang yan para mailayo ang sympathy ng madla. Bwaka ng inayng yan. Malaki siguro ang parte kaya halatang scripted ang mga sinasabi.
How did you know it’s scripted?
kalokohan at gagohan ang pinagsasabi ni leo san miguel sa senate kahapon! who in a hell could belive what he says! pumayag pa ang kumag sa lie detector test…but eventually ang dami reasons na ilalabas nyan pag dating ng panahon! just my two cents (pede na rin my LIFE)!!! bka sa susunod na hearing nga eh wala na yan, maglalaho din yan at magtatago sa lahat ng kasuloksulokan ng daigdig! nagsisinungalin man sya (leo), napapatunayan pa rin nya nakikisawsaw ang abalos sa usapang NBN… can someone please tell abalos lawyer na hindi tayo tanga…
sa kalokohan ng magaling na abalos e pati ba naman kawawang apo e pinalalabas pa sa telebisyon! pede ba natin ipa 163 ang abalos na yan for using the inoscent kid?!?!? bka pede rin kaya suntokan nalang sina leo at dante? kita ko kahapon ang inis ni dante k leo… lanyang leo, nasisinungaling pa e halata naman sa mukha nya ang takot.. naka NGITING ASO lang si leo the whole day yesterday! namula tuloy sa inis c lacson…
krunk, pati yun NBN chanel na sinasabi mo halatang scripted rin…. pag na oust na c gloria and comes the new government, saan kaya pupulutin yan mga reporter ng NBN! cgro babago na tugtog ng mga kupal na yan….. paano kaya naging reporter mga yan? saan kaya nag aaral mga yun? im not into siding any stations but the mere fact na masyado na halata ang reporting nila at nawala na ang FAIR REPORTING, kabastusan naman yun! ika nga, kung ano ugali ng amo nadadala ng mga tauhan nya!
Pilot nyog, how did you know that it’s scripted?
And what to you is “fair reporting”?
Kawawa naman ang galamay ni Evil Bitch, wala ng pumapatol! Kausapin mo na lang ang aso niyo baka sakaling sagutin ka pa.
Two words: Trojan Horse.
Siya ang matagal nang pinaguusapang “Trojan Horse witness”.
Oo nga, andres, naaawa na nga ako sa sarili ko. Wala kasing makasagot dito sa mga tanong ko. Huhuhu.
Jerz, lucky there you are!just burst out nowhere of the darkness. showing idiotism personality,since your senseless annoying challange everybody,please restrained entering sites of stupidy and idiotic act like work of an evil try to intimedates and temptations the bloggers.We seek TRUTH from transparencies, and accountabilities, not from sources which made from the SOLDIER of darkness lip only.
Hi pilot_noy. Thanks sa comment. Sinabi mo pa. Di ba dapat ang isang mamamahayag ay not taking one’s side, fair in othe words pero ito talagang National Bias Ngekwork or NBN TV ay super liar ang binibigay na mga report maging sa commercial kung saan ang mga tao na nabayaran ay nagsasabi nga gumandaw raw ang buhay nila dahil ko Unano. Pwe! Anong kinaganda ng pesteng ekonomiya natin gayung ang mga kapwa ko OFW ay nagighihiirap dito sa ibayong dagat? Mababa nga ang dolyar super taas naman ang lahat ng bilihan diyan sa atin. Kung maganda ba talaga ang theory ng mga pesteng namumuno sa bansa natin ‘di sana wala ng aalis ng bansa at sa halip diyan na lang kami magta-trabaho?
andres Says:
March 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Kawawa naman ang galamay ni Evil Bitch, wala ng pumapatol! Kausapin mo na lang ang aso niyo baka sakaling sagutin ka pa.
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tama ka jan. just give them a cold shoulder. they are just wallflowers here in ellenville and we shouldn’t care about them as they all sucks and losers. period.
What’s done is done! A few highlights….
1) This San Miguel guy indirectly implicated Abalos in the form of “helping”. His involvement is now established!
2) In the end, he was able to collect his dues from the criminal enterprises and the “perks” w/o familial endangerment!
3) Lacson’s judgment was clouded by his momentary exhilaration without due diligence. San Miguel while lacking in many aspects look very composed under scrutiny!
4) When San Miguel became a hostile witness early on, the focus on the hearing should had shifted instead of allowing him all the air time to cast more doubts & poked holes on other testimonies!
5) When he claimed his expectation of a 1.5 Mil in fee, the Senate should have pursued this line of questioning by asking on fees for other members of the group hopeful he might volunteer information.
6) If Lacson were fooled into believing otherwise, indeed, he was outwitted by guns, goons and gold.
Finally, the only means to bring this evil empire to its knees lies with Neri, the girly man.
He must be willing to do it truthfully on his/her own term w/o outside interference or otherwise, we will be faced with the “real” trojan horse!
Krunck,
Hehe! You are right, Naawa lang ako kasi wala nang pumapatol kaya suggestion ko nga subukan nila kausapin mga aso nila.
Tuloy ang laban!!!
From a friend:
San Miguel may claim that he has no first hand knowledge, i.e., didn’t see the money pass hands or the paper trail but the man must have second hand knowledge; he could always tell the marines that he knows nothing!
As a technical consultant, he is obliged to be aware of the costs of the project; no way he can say he doesn’t and by putting one and one together, makes two.
I know what I’m saying because I’ve been involved in making proposals to govt — based on company engineers’ inputs, we drafted the overall proposals including top-ups, i.e., cost paddings and of course, engineers (or technical consultants) are always aware of the difference because at the end of the day, they are the ones who either evaluate or present the specifications! They also have a very strong idea of who on the local side are involved (they have to!!!)
So this guy is lying if he says he doesn’t know or is not aware!
The question should not be direct, i.e., “Are you aware of the 41 million dollar bribe, etc?” But, “Explain the costing of the package, costs and all….” The Senators have to be more creative with their questions!
J.Cruz,
korek ka diyan. I myself watched the Senate hearing and realized that Neri’s testimony is more significant than what other witnesses could yield in resolving this issue of ZTE bukolan ang tong-pats. Who knows the guy may change his mind after the observance of Holy Week.Puwedi siyang magpakalalaki at magssbi na ng lahat na kanyang nalalaman. And he can do it. Kahit papaano ay may angkin naman siyang tapang,talino, at kagandahan ng loob bilang isang tunay na lalaki.Tama o Mali?
Dr. Kwak: Faith and Hope are what remains to go with Divine Intervention! The whole country is being held hostage….
Neri has first hand accounts and all the rest are peripheral at best.
It will boil down to: Is Neri a pinhead or a patriot?
The same question apply to the distinguished ladies & gentlemen of the Supreme Court.
Will they help in another “constructive” resignation? Or will they be an integral part of this “destructive” administration?
Andres;
Buti kung patulan ng aso sila? Eh kung hinde kawawa naman. Sa linta na lang kaya or sa buwaya? Anyway, most of them ay parasites, hinde ba?
Ellen;
Leo Son Devil was described as a dud in http://www.arabnews.com. check it out.
It is no secret that Sen. Ping Lacson has one of the most colorful backgrounds in intelligence works but he met his match in a professional liar in Leo San Miguel. I could only symphatize with Ping with what happened to his “surprise” witness surprising himself and the public. However, this is one thing I can tell you, only Malacanang was celebrating but the Filipino people? INIS NA INIS!!! Just this morning, another factotum of Gloria, the nerbyosung ill-equipped Security adviser Norberto Gonzales said that the oust-Gloria move has passed and the rest of oppositions’ efforts will not make an impact anymore. Tingnan natin mga kasama. They seem to forget that 76% of the people don’t like this government. Nagbibingi bingian sila.
Tuloy tayong kumilos laban sa tiwaling pamamahala ni Gloria the Evil Bitch!!!
Pag nakita ko yang si Leo San Miguel gusto ko sungalngalin ang pagmumukha!
Thanks TonGuE-tWisTeD ! Sa tingin mo ba mapagkakatiwalaan ba yun testimonya ni Leo San Miguel na technical lang ang alam nya dito, para kasing lumalabas genius sya sa computer hardware and software at programming. Baka mahack nya din un comments dito at palitan yun blog messages natin.
ALI-BABA and the FORTY THIEVES. Who will play the rule of
ALI-BABA ? di si TABA sabi ni Pareng Juan de la Cruz.
From Hello Garci, to Hello Leo naman! Kaya pala nagbago ang testimonya nitong si Leo San Miguel eh! Nangako kay Ma’am na ide-deny lahat!!!
Kakaiba talaga si Ma’am, parang gestapo ang style!
uncvlized,
I’m glad you asked the question. I hope Ellen will allow this lengthy retort.
I may not have the same length of experience as San Miguel, mas bata akong malayo, but in any government project, especially those unsolicited, supplier-driven deals, the technical consultant does not only have control over the technical aspect of the project. His role includes site surveying, estimating completion targets of manufacturing/installation schedules, manpower requirements, logistics, quantity survey of deliverables, organizational planning, quality assurance, real-time completion assessment, re-planning for adjustments and contingencies, commissioning, and turn-over. And many more.
Each activity carries a unit price which is then multiplied with the quantities as estimated. San Miguel is definitely lying that he does not know how much bribes, if any, were built-in into the proposed price.
He definitely knows the total project COST even if he does not know the PRICE. The mark-up or PROFIT is simply deducting the COST from the PRICE which everyone knows, (except San Miguel, hahaha!) to be $329M. PROFIT is therefore ZTE INCOME plus LOCAL KICKBACK. It does not need an engineer of San Miguel’s “caliber” to determine that.
Why is it not BOT like JDV3’s proposal?
Because in BOT, there is the so-called “Swiss Challenge” where any interested party can match or exceed JDV3’s proposal and capture the prized project. The “Swiss Challenge” somewhat ensures that no single proposal gets an undue advantage by giving bigger bribes. It is actually designed to “moderate the greed”. Had JDV3 allowed Abalos his $130M commission, this NBN project will definitely be BOT.
Back to San Miguel, the commercial aspect of any proposal must at all times comply with the profit requirements of the proponent and to be able to satisfy the client, the technical consultant must at all times be appraised of the cost variables, kickbacks, included. With this info, he can adjust the specs and quantity which falls squarely under the technical realm where he has to have total control of.
San Miguel’s lame excuse is total bullshit.
Tongue-twisted: Alam namin natin as techies that Mr. San Miguel’s claim na “technical” lang ang papel niya is bull. Pero siya na rin ang nag-contradict sa sarili niya when he affirmed na siya nga ang nag-email kay Madraiga na may Excel attachment for Madriaga to refine the hi-level costing per phase nung project nila. Ito yung sinabi nya na dinuktor daw yung columns na “tong-pats” at “consortium” margins and amount. Dito pa lang pwede na syang i-contempt ng Senado.
Nung nagtetestify si San Miguel, naalala ko si Jeff Schilling na dating presidente ng Enron while he was being grilled by the US Congress.. kahit na ang galing ng presentation and communication skills ni Schilling, lumabas pa rin ang mga contradictions sa testimonies niya.
tunggak! Este, tumpak! Joke lang, bro. Tinutukan ko din yang Enron dahil industry ko iyan.
What is sad is that the children and grandchildren of people like Leo San Miguel, Abalos, Neri (if ever), Atienza, not to mention the whole clan of Mike & Gloria ‘s brood, will all emulate their parents and grandparents and this will perpetuate the culture of corruption and dishonesty in future generations of Filipinos.
ADRL: I think it was bitchevil who mentioned that Leo San Miguel has a son who is helping him in business…I can just imagine what this businessman will turn to be..Father like Son?
Seguro ang dictionary nila ay yong bago..Corruptionary the unexpurgated version.. In the case of Neri isn’t he the head of education?
only due to extremely compelling reasons, Jun Lozada become one unload-all-whistle-blower.
his testimonies and the circumstances surrounding them should be more than enough to blunt and slice-through the veneer of lies crafted by the scums, and unmask the powerful personalities behind the broadband-project—- turned, broad-daylight-banditry.
the Senate must give weight to the factor that any probable chance in scanning the horizon for another Jun Lozada to voluntarily come forward, is nil, and thus, a futile exercise.
unless the remaining prospective whistle-blower(s) is compelled by fear of being silenced forever, the chance for cooperating with the Senate inquiry naturally becomes dimmer.
with a sense of urgency, the Senators are better off if they refocus their energies of finding a good trial lawyer, and a competent prosecutor to indict the suspects before the courts.
the longer they dillydally, and try silly games of coaxing unrepentant insiders, the bigger the chance of blowing the case into a gone wind—-all, into a naught.
ADRL: Alam mo naalala ko tuloy yung nakausap na militar na galit na sa gobyerno. Ang frustration niya at marami sa kaniyang mga kasama e tila nauubusan na raw ng option ang bayan natin to fight the corrupt culture perpetuated mostly by our politicians. Ang nakikita na lang nilang solusyon e gayahin ang “final solution” ni Hitler — ubusin ang lahi ng lahat ng politiko, walang ititira.. Nangilabot ako sa narinig ko… Sabi ko sa kanya na baka disappointed lang sila, tulad natin, pero wag naman “ubusin ang lahi” ang solusyon.
Kaya ako kinabahan kasi hindi ito ordinaryong usapan ng mga naglalabas ng sama ng loob. Mga taong may armas ang nag-iisip at tila open sa ganitong scenario pag naubusan na sila ng options..
Di ko ito naririnig sa mga unipormadong kakilala dati, kahit nung EDSA 2. Sana nga usapang lasing o kwentong kutsero lang ang napag-usapan namin…
Tongue-twisted: Ok lang pare.. so, oil and gas pala ang industriya mo? Ako, sa kasamaang palad e pareho ng industriya ni Leo San Miguel. Kaya nga nakaka high blood yung testimony nya when I watched it. Especially yung pinipilit nya na “technical aspects” lang ng project ang kanya at wala siyang alam sa financials at costing. Actually ang technical term sa so-called “decent and professional” work na ginawa niya sa ZTE is systems and solutions architecture.
At san ka naman nakakita ng technical consulting engagement na walang “service agreement” or contract for his professional services? “Word of honor” lang daw ang usapan nila? Susmaryosep, $1.6M ang fee niya from a publicly-listed company tapos verbal agreement lang? SINUNGALING!! Insulto talaga sa mga nasa engineering and technical profession ang ginawa ni San Miguel na testimony sa Senate.
Gusto ko na nga sanang maawa sa kanya nung umpisa ng pagtestigo niya kasi halata ang dinadala niyang pressure. Pero ang tipping point ko e nung naalala niya in detail ang meeting nila at JDV’s house, pero tila may selective amnesia pag ang meeting e sina Burjer at mga ka-partners niya ang kausap niya. Hay… buti na lang low blood ako..
sandinista,
actually, power and energy ang forte ko. Malapit-lapit na rin sa telecoms dahil ang peripheral electrical equipment ngayon communications-enabled at computerized na halos lahat.
Kagaguhan talaga yung pinagsasabi ni San Miguel. While I may somewhat believe him when he said he did not have appointment papers or hard contracts with ZTE, but if you consider ZTE is a publicly-listed in Hong-Kong, it’s almost impossible. I have experiences with the Chinese, their word of honor is worth more than the P.O. or contract.
One big electrical contractor (Chinese) who ordered his equipment with us does not issue Purchase Orders. For him the downpayment is enough proof that he is serious. Our Finance Dept. refused to receive the order unless he issues a P.O. or signs a contract. He was offended! Just to prove his word of honor, he went to the office, prepaid the whole P42M order that will take some 2 years to complete. My Finance Manager was red in the face and asked him out to lunch to apologize. The guy even paid for the lunch, hahaha.
But this happens only in single proprietorships not with public corporations.
Leo San Miguel did not settle the score with Lacson that day. He dug a deeper hole for him inside that shit!
Tongue-twisted: True, bro… kung Chinese proprietor pwede pa sana ako maniwala sa verbal agreement kuno nya. May mga clients din kasi akong mga Chinoy, di uso PO sa kanila. Sana ma-contempt si San Miguel, nga lang di ko alam ang proseso or circumstances and criteria that the Senate would require to charge someone who testified in their investigation for contempt.