Update:
Cardinal Rosales: Calls for People Power irresponsible and crazy
Aquino Says Philippine Poll Fraud May Trigger Turmoil
By Francisco Alcuaz Jr. and Haslinda Amin
The 50-year-old son of former president Corazon Aquino, who has led opinion surveys since entering the race last year, criticized how a switch to electronic voting machines is being implemented and said a declaration that he is the loser of the May 10 poll would bring supporters on to the streets.
“If we have a correct counting of the votes, I think we will be very victorious,” said Aquino, whose mother toppled dictator Ferdinand Marcos amid protests that followed a rigged election in 1986. If “the people’s will is frustrated,” demonstrations could make this month’s protests in Thailand seem “mild” by comparison, he said in an interview in Manila yesterday.
Aquino, known as “Noynoy,” claims his closest rival, property tycoon and Senator Manuel Villar, is secretly backed by outgoing President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, and has accused both of corruption. A contested election result might disrupt efforts to tackle a record budget deficit, reduce Asia’s third-highest unemployment rate and increase foreign investment.
“Markets would react negatively to any scenario that puts in question the credibility of the elections,” said Paul Joseph Garcia, chief investment officer at ING Investment Management Ltd. in Manila. ‘There’s going to be selling pressure.”
Coup Attempts
The benchmark four-year bond fell the most in almost three weeks, pushing the yield 4.5 basis points higher to 5.90 percent, a six-week high, according to Amstel Financial Services. The peso fell 0.5 percent, the most in a week, to 44.417 against the U.S. dollar.
The Philippine Stock Exchange Index has risen 8.4 percent this year, lagging behind a 16 percent jump in Indonesia’s Jakarta Composite Index and outpacing a 3.7 percent advance for the SET Index in Thailand, where as many as 26 people were killed in anti-government protests this month.
Aquino entered the race following the death of his mother from cancer in August, and was propelled to the top of the polls by an outpouring of nostalgia for the former president. He widened his lead over Villar to 15 percentage points in a survey conducted from April 18 to 20 by the Manila Standard. The survey had a margin of error of 2 percentage points, the newspaper reported yesterday.
Vested Interests
Opponents say Aquino has achieved little in 12 years as a legislator. Villar, who rose from poverty to build a fortune estimated at $530 million by Forbes magazine, says he is “up against someone who has no experience, has not demonstrated any managerial ability, and has not led anything.”
Aquino said his lack of legislative achievements reflect his refusal to compromise with vested interests. He cited business experience selling Nike Inc. products and said that helping his mother fend off coup attempts by negotiating with wavering soldiers is evidence of his leadership skills.
“I don’t claim sole credit for having withstood the coups,” he said in the living room of his home, decorated with water colors painted by his mother. “But I think I played an important part. They chose our side.”
Aquino has lived in the same house in Quezon City all his life except for three years spent in Boston. Their stay ended when his father, known as “Ninoy,” returned to Manila in 1983 and was assassinated on arrival, triggering the anti-Marcos protests that catapulted his wife to the presidency. Today, Manila’s international airport is named after Ninoy Aquino and his face appears on Philippine banknotes.
Budget Deficits
Aquino said he intends to increase tax collection to 15 percent of gross domestic product from 13 percent “practically instantly” by targeting tax evaders, raising funds to plough into job creation, education and health care. He also said he may adopt an “open skies” policy to boost tourism.
The government has run an annual budget surplus only four times in the past 24 years, constraining its ability to fight poverty in a nation where one in four people live on less than $1.25 a day. The budget deficit was a record 298.5 billion pesos ($6.75 billion) last year, and is projected to stay close to that this year. The unemployment rate stands at 7.3 percent.
Aquino also said he plans to raise judges’ salaries and improve implementation of a law that would reward and punish tax and customs officials based on whether they met targets, part of his strategy to stamp out graft.
Meanwhile, he is seeking to extend his lead in the polls by emphasizing his family’s incorruptible image and painting his main rival as corrupt. Villar, 60, was ousted as Senate leader in 2008 amid allegations he diverted a road to benefit one of his property projects. He has denied any impropriety.
Aquino has also joined opposition politicians who allege that President Arroyo rigged her election in 2004, in part with the help of the country’s election commission. Arroyo, who’s barred from standing for re-election, has spent three years of her six-year term fighting attempts to impeach her on vote- rigging and corruption allegations.
RE: Is Aquino preparing for repeat of EDSA One?
Well, sana wala nang EDSA na maulit coz’ang EDSA 1 e ano ba ang naidulot na kabutihan sa Bayan…ok nakinabang ang mga yellow wannabees but still lalong naging gahaman ang mga akala mo lingkod-bayan pero lingkod-bulsa pala.
Kung ibabalik natin ang nakaraan…20-years Marcos days kumpara sa sinasabing EDSA ONE (Santita Cory, Tabako and Gloria)…may maganda bang nangyari sa pamumuhay ng Pinoy at nasaan na ngayon ang Pinas?
Di ba lalong naging magulo ang mundo nang pulitika dulot ng multi-party system ng EDSA ONE at di ba lalong nabaon sa utang ang Pinas lalo na sa panahon ni Tabako at Gloria?
About extrajudicial killings di ba naging masworst ang Gloria regime kumpara kay Apo Macoy watch…ok marami ang naging aktibista at nagrebelde sa panahon ni Apo Macoy pero di ba sila ngayon ang naghahariharian sa enchanted kingdom ni Gloria.
Paano kung ang Pangulong Erap ang iboto ng Masang Pilipino…hihirit ulit si Noy Yellow Fever na dinaya siya it because of siya ang no. 1 sa survey.
Yan ang hirap…itong mga elitista e gustong ipayakap sa Masa ang kanilang kaek-ekan e sila mismo ang naghudas sa 11 milyong Pinoy na malayang naghahalal ng Pangulo last 1998.
At gusto nilang palabasin na thru survery e si Noy Yellow Fever ang akala nila e sure na winner…HOY GISING, ang boto ng Masang Pilipino ang magpapasya kung sino ang dapat tanghalin na WINNER!
NO WAY na maulit ulit ang EDSA…sawa na at pagod na ang Pinoy, magpakatotoo kayo sa inyong sarili. Ang paglilingkod-bayan e dapat bukal sa puso at di dapat gawing negosyo na ngayon e ginastusan nýo ng bilyones para lang magsipanalo.
Nasa EDSA ako noong 1986 vs. Marcos at 2001 vs. Estrada. Kung kinakailangan mag EDSA vs. Arroyo, sasama pa rin ako.
Ngayon pa lang they are proposing a parallel manual count in the counting. Pa’no pag may discrepancy, sasabihin nila may daya, and then another EDSA in the making. I don’t think peple will buy that crap anymore.
In today’s editorial section of the Daily Tribune,the alleged denial of Jaime Bulatao, SJ, of Ateneno appears spurios or not made by Fr. Bulatao himself. If the second psycho report turns out to be authentic, Noynoy will surely have a problem since he does not totally disclose his psychological records to the public.
Ngayon pa lang they are proposing a parallel manual count in the counting. Pa’no pag may discrepancy, sasabihin nila may daya, and then another EDSA in the making. I don’t think peple will buy that crap anymore.
In today’s editorial section of the Daily Tribune,the alleged denial of Jaime Bulatao, SJ, of Ateneno appears spurios or not made by Fr. Bulatao himself. If the second psycho report turns out to be authentic, Noynoy will surely have a problem since he does not totally disclose his psychological records to the public.
“Neat trick, that
FRONTLINE
Ninez Cacho-Olivares
04/28/2010
Not surprisingly, the Liberal Party (LP) camp quickly dismissed the psychiatric report on its bet, Noynoy Aquino, harking back to the first psycho report that was clearly a fake one, and also saying that all this is black propaganda.
But with the surfacing of this new psychiatric report, noted to have been signed by a genuine psychiatrist and psychologist, Fr. Jaime Bulatao, SJ., of the Ateneo, something does smell fishy from the camp of Aquino, in coordination with its biggest media supporter, ABS-CBN.
Controversy followed the airing of the clearly fake psycho evaluation of Noynoy, in that it was clearly a fake report, yet ABS-CBN quickly aired it, then claimed the fake report came from two sources from the Nacionalista Party (NP) camp.
To this day, the network has refused to identify the sources of this fake report, even when the NP leaders gave their clearance to have ABS-CBN identify the NP sources.
But think about it: Why would the NP sources give out a clearly fake psycho report on Noynoy for airing when they must have known that this would easily be debunked? After all, the alleged psychiatrist, Fr. Tito Caluag, was certainly no psychiatrist or even a psychologist and he is in the ABS-CBN combine board, which would make it so easy for the TV channel to have this report debunked and why air it, knowing it was fake?
Everything about the first psycho report screamed fake. So why would the NP sources leak this out to ABS-CBN, especially when it is known that this network is so yellow and airs only positive news on Noynoy and never any negative news — unless of course, as in the case of the fake psycho report, establishing the fakery of the report would be bad news for the NP camp, since it was also clearly claimed by the network that this was leaked by two NP sources, which would then also give Noynoy and his yellows the opportunity to kill the non-stop talk of his having suffered from autism, as well as his being bi-polar and many more mental health problems.
It wouldn’t even surprise anyone if the LP itself hatched up that fake psychological evaluation of Noynoy and had it aired, to crush whatever was forthcoming by way of medical and psychological reports on Noynoy.
It is no secret that talks have been making the rounds for sometime of a medical-psychiatric report on Noynoy Aquino, from his student days to his stay in Boston which would prove damaging to the LP standard bearer.
It is certain that the LPs and Noynoy himself knew and heard of this talk, and in essence, moved to preempt whatever would be bared later — if it would be bared at all. The LP is certainly not beneath such moves.
Given that thought, what comes to mind is that there must therefore be a grain of truth in talks of Noynoy having sought psychiatric help sometime in his life, whether at the Ateneo, or in Boston or elsewhere.
This could also be the reason Noynoy, even when challenged to take a psychological test, refused to do so, when he could easily disprove all talk of his mental disability if he underwent such a test, to end all talk on this issue.
What surprises, however, is that all the LP does is to deny — never once did Noynoy and his LP disprove any of the allegations leveled against him, whether it is the security agency that he had established when his mother was president, which shows just how tainted he is by corruption, or the Hacienda Luisita issue, as well as the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway project that even had the Cojuangco-Aquino make a pile of money from the taxpayers, while getting the bulk of it and giving the workers a pittance of that pile. And he dares talk about leveling the playing field and do justice to every man.
Neither did Noynoy come clean on the private interchange that the clan never paid for, but was given to them as a gift by the Arroyo government.
Noynoy and his camp always claim that his rival, Manny Villar, never disproves the charges, and merely denies them.
But so does Noynoy. He denies everything, even when solid proof is presented, as in the security agency and the hacienda issues.
And he wants to be president and pledges to weed out corruption?”
RE: Nasa EDSA ako noong 1986 vs. Marcos at 2001 vs. Estrada. Kung kinakailangan mag EDSA vs. Arroyo, sasama pa rin ako.
Well, Igan Oblak nasaksihan mo ang EDSA 1 & 2…so, ngayon paano natin maipapaliwanag sa sambayanang Pinoy ang naging bunga nito.
During Apo Macoy watch vs. EDSA 1 & 2…ano ang estado ng Pinas at mamamayan sa ngayon?
Paano natin maipapaliwanag ang Kamag-anak, inc. (multi-party system); extra-judicial killings; left & right scams; e-vatrecto; trillion pesos na winaldas ni Gloria regime etc. etc.
Ito ba ang ipinagmamalaki ng Yellow wannabees na naibalik nila ang demokrasya sa Pinas or lalong naging worst ang bansa?
Ngayon…mag-EDSA muli ang panakot ng mga Yellow wannabees na kung di sila maupo sa enchanted kingdom e magaalsa balutan muli sila.
NO WAY! Yan ang pulso ng nakakaraming Pinoy.
Pader, “feeling” nasa middle class kasi ako kaya feel ko yung EDSA 1 & 2. SA akin lang, sumama ako sa EDSA 1 para matapos ng ang 20 years rule ni MCoy. Nung panahon na iyon, maraming gusto ng pagbabago. Hindi ako nagsisisi at nanghihinayang sa pagsama ko sa EDSA 1.
Sa EDSA 2, sumama ako para maalis si Erap. Iba iba tayo ng paniniwala at noon ang paniniwala ko nagpapabaya si Erap at hindi sinesoryoso ang pagiging pangulo. Hindi rin ako nagsisisi sa pagsama ko sa EDSA 2. Hindi ko rin sinisisi ang sarili ko na si GMA ang pangulo at walang makakapagsabi na magiging demonyo si GMA. Ang mga maka Erap galit kay GMA dahil sya ang pumalit kay Erap, ako naman galit kay GMA dahil sa pambabalasubas nya sa posisyon na galing sa mga sumama sa EDSA 2.
Maiintidihan ko rin kung bakit may “averse” sa concept ng EDSA. Sana sa mga naniniwala sa EDSA, intindihin nyo rin ang mga katulad namin. Kung baga, kung ayaw nila ng EDSA, huwag sila sumama at kung feel nila ang EDSA, sumama na sila.
“Aquino said his lack of legislative achievements reflect his refusal to compromise with vested interests”
Wow, napakababaw naman ni Noynoy! Gagawa lang ng dahilan hindi man lang inisip kung kapanipaniwala at makakalusot. Nagpapatawa siguro siya to show that there is also a funny side of him.
What makes him think that crafting and passing a bill would compromise with vested interests?
What’s the compromise if for instance he files and manages to have it enacted into law a bill giving free education and medical care for the indigents? What’s the compromise if he authors a bill that provides safety nets for senior citizens? What’s he compromising if he manages to pass into law a bill that provides economic security for the widows and education to orphans of soldiers who died in action defending the state?
His only remarkable accomplishments in congress: He voted against the airing of Hello Garci tapes, thus acted as a lapdog and defender of Gloria. He also lobbied for the construction of SCTEX for the exclusive use of the Hacienda Luisita, all expenses paid for by the government of Gloria.
His “palusot” is bullshit. It’s an excuse by idiots and stupid believing that it’s alright to mislead the people. It’s an excuse to give reason for incompetence and mediocre performance. It’s an excuse for those who know nothing about leadership and governance
The sad thing about it is people are just so naïve, so easy to take for a ride and so blind to not see what is real and fake.
That’s the sad reality on how the Filipino electorate use their democratic rights in chosing their leaders. They based on names, personality and not on quality.
aquino is already assuming that he will win the election based on data gathered from less than 10000 voters.what use is the election then, just a formality? i cannot see any humility in his pronouncements even before he is actually voted.it seems to me that now he is taking credit that the military did not take over in his mother’s watch over pinas.i am starting to believe that there is some truth in the psychiatric reports.for a guy whose candidacy is based on decency, it ought to be easy to come out of this garbage quite clean.
For the past decade or so, I think the people have given this administration all the chances via legal and constitutional avenues to defend herself. But always, she has bought and/or threatened Congress, the military, the Comelec and the Supreme Court to thwart these.
So here again is the last chance being given her. The elections. To do good by the people by not tinkering with it.
7 out of every 10 Filipinos are fed up, nay.. hate her.. and her ilk. The expectations of change, of finally getting rid of her is very high. The people are feeling it, smelling it, tasting it. It seems to be the last chance at gaining back a life..for them and their children.
It is up to those thwarters of change to tempt the whirlwind.
Norpil, Noynoy arrogant? All candidates talk this way. Have you heard Villar, Gordon, Gibo, Erap, Perlas, Bro Eddie, Jamby, even JC Delos Reyes? They all say they are going to win.
there is a difference between saying one is going to win and saying people will to the streets if he/she does not win. if noynoy is just like the other candidates then what are we voting for. we ought just toss a coin and see who is lucky.
Kung si Erap ang mananalo …. wala yan. Tanggap ng mga Aquino o LP o Yellow’istas o ano pa man. Pero pag si Villar at Gibo ang mananalo ….. giyera na.
Tama lang naman ang sinabi ni Aquino …. talaga namang gawain ng mga ganid ang mandaya …. bakit ayaw tanggapin ng iba ang katotohanan … na si Erap at Aquino ang talagang maglalaban … pag talagang lumusot ang mga tuta ni Arroyo … iba na yan. Yan lang po ang akin.
Ako po ay solid Erap …. pero ang second choice ko ay si Aquino …. yong lumalabas na psycho report daw kay Noynoy ay kagaguhan po yan. Mga gago lang po ang maniniwala diyan. Tignan na lang po natin kung anong klase ang pamilya niya … hindi po gaga ang mga kapatid niya na sinang-ayunan ang pagtakbo niya kung meron siya non. Bakit naman nila papayagan ang kanilang kapatid kung meron nga siyang tililing noon. Ganun lang po kasimple.
Yong Nanay nga ni Villar noong ininterview … parang napanood ko na sa Wowowee ….. buti wala yong pahalik-halik na baluktot ang daliri.
Sa akin naman, kahit sino sa kanila ang manalo, basta’t malinis at walang dayaan.
Ang ugat lahat ng problema natin ay si Glorya … kaya putulin natin lahat ang mga galamay niya para huwag ng maghasik pa ng kalagiman. Tama na sobra na … Erap o Aquino lang ang pag-asa.
Desperado na ang mga Villarroyo … noong hindi lumusot yong unang tirada nila kay Noynoy na psycho report …. hindi kumita … nag-release sila ng Part II … hindi rin kinagat. Ang hina talaga ang mga alalay ni Villar … yan ang sisihin niya kung bakit siya nangungulelat ngayon.
it is logical to conclude that Noynoy and Mar will win, as president and VP respectively in next months election, SWS and Pulse Asia are both very credible and highly respected survey firms, and they conduct surveys in a scientific, fair, and impartial manner.
Noynoy consistently lead in all surveys from the start to finish, and is even widening its lead by double digits against its nearest rival in the latest survey.
If gma and her candidates villaroyo and giba think they could cheat the people again, like what they did in 2004, they better think a thousand times again……..
the yellow army is ready to oppose any cheating this time ……
RE: Pader, “feeling” nasa middle class kasi ako kaya feel ko yung EDSA 1 & 2.
Well, yan ang problema ng Masang Pinoy Igan Oblak…ang magkaroon ng pantay na pagkilala sa ating lipunan.
Bilang isang OFW e talos namin ang estado ng ating bansa, kaya kami e concern sa mga nangyayari sa Pinas at kababayang Pinoy.
Before EDSA 1 e nangibang bansa ako sa pag-asa na magkakaroon ng tunay na pagbabago sa pangpulitikal na kamalayan ang Pinoy at umaasa na uunlad ang bansa gayundin ang pamumuhay ng Kapinuyan.
Ang hirap e mag 25-years na ako dito sa abroad e lalong naging paurong ang Pinas at naging gahaman ang marami sa kapangyarihan…gusto ng marami e maging lingkod-bulsa.
Ok, umunlad ang pamumuhay naming OFWs pero ano ang nangyari sa Pinas at maraming Masang Pinoy?
Baka magkita-kita tayo sa Edsa kung magkadayaan! Kailangan mayroon tayong ibang suot para makilala natin ang isa’t-isa. Hehehe.
Pareng Tedanz:
Yan ang gusto ko sa yo. . . di ka nagpapadala sa sulsol. . .hehe
It was not out of hubris that Aquino said, “If we have a correct counting of the votes, I think we will be very victorious”. He was interviewed and asked about the PCOS and the possibility of cheating using these. If he had said this without being asked, hell, it would have been arrogant of him! Lurker is right. Lahat ng presidential bets nagsabi na mananalo sila. Yung mga kulelat sa survey ay di nga naniniwala sa survey di ba?
Kung ang mga nangungulelat ay nakapagsabi nyan, how much more yung nangunguna ayon sa survey? E survey lang yan e! Di kami naniniwala sa survey, sabi ng mga galit kay Aquino. Talaga? Kaya pala siya na lang palagi laman ng lahatg ng diyaryo. Paborito ng Tribune tirahin, lalo na ni Inis Olivarez na pyinansyahan ni Erap sa libel case nya. Di pala naniniwala ha pero halos lagyan na ng sungay si Aquino. Di ba kayo nagtataka na si Gibo at Gordon ay di man lang halos mabanggit kahit dito sa blog? Di ba di rin kayo naniniwala sa surveys? Dahil di nangunguna ang manok nyo? 🙂
Tama ka Pareng Tedanz. Di dapat pagkatiwalaan sina Villaroyo at Gibo. Do not underestimate the capacity of Goyang to conjure all the magic tricks out of her evil hbag para di lang manalo si Aquino o Erap dahil alam nyang sa kalaboso ang bagsak nya.
Is Aquino preparing for repeat of EDSA One?
Ellen, based on the interview, he’s admitted that he is preparing for one.
Some say that his pronouncement was to serve as a warning to those who would be tempted to cheat.
I say the whole thing smacks of arrogance…
Plain hubris!
RE: Sa akin naman, kahit sino sa kanila ang manalo, basta’t malinis at walang dayaan.
KOREK Kgg. Lurker, demokrasya di ba…dapat igalang ng lahat kung sino ang papalarin na maging pangulo ng bansa once and for all.
Sure…walang problema!
But, yaong ginawa ng EDSA DOS con Hello Garci sa pangwawalanghiya sa ating saligang batas at 11 milyones na botanteng Pinoy e bangungot ng demokrasya na bukangbibig ng mga elitista.
Noynoy, C5 at Tiyaga and the rest ng mga kandidato sa pagkapangulo e magkakakutsaba yan noong EDSA DOS kaya malaki ang atraso nila sa Masang Pilipino.
Sila ang tunay na balingbing at hungyango na feeling oposisyonista pero mga peke naman. Sila ang pahirap sa bayan.
Clarification lang: kasama ako sa EDSA 1, hindi sa EDSA 2.
Anna:
I respect where you’re coming from but I don’t see the point why he is being portrayed as arrogant. I can see very clearly the context of why he said that. The authors of this article clearly premised their interview with him as the presidential frontrunner. Oh, I can only imagine how the blabbermouth Gordon would have answered this if he was the one interviewed. He would have promised them brimstone and fire raining down from the heavens! 🙂
How about Erap? He would not have answered differently. Remember EDSA 3? His adoring masa would never allow their ‘leading candidate’ to be cheated and his ‘redemption’ compromised.
Lalo naman si Villar! If he would have been asked as the ‘frontrunner’, I can only speculate what would have been his reaction. Maybe it would have been like this, ” Sabi ng nanay ko, mahirap talaga kami at kailanman ay di kami nandaya at nagsinungaling, mamatay pa uli yung kapatid ko”. Or something to that effect. . .
🙂
Kung tama ang bilangan, ayos lang. Pero kung mauulit ang 2004 Hello Garci ay tayo na!
Henry,
To be perfectly honest, I don’t care much about what they (his rivals) might say if they were asked the same question because my focus here and now is on Aquino and what he said. You must admit that there’s a certain amount of hubris in how he said it, eg., based on a direct quote from him.
That said, I can very well imagine that if there’s at all any hint of dishonesty and cheating in the counting, there’s bound to be trouble but to announce it the way he did just about strikes the wrong chord. If he had followed it up with something along the lines of what Chi said “Kung tama ang bilangan, ayos lang…”, he wouldn’t be accused of arrogance or hubris.
Kung sinugod natin si Gloria at Hello Garci sa streets nung 2004, disin sana ay walang unana. Handa ang ‘merika na tayo ay suportahan, gusto ka lang ni Manay Susan ay tahimik na laban. Look what that brought us, Gloria and Mike almost forever.
Hindi para kay Noynoy kung bakit ako sasama sa streets to protest kung sakaling magkadayaan kundi dahil ayaw ko ng another Gloria Arroyo! Kung manalo si Villar o sinuman sa kanila ng walag doubt kahit na katiting, OK lang sa akin. Pero kung mauulit ang 2004 ay dapat iprotesta sa kalye.
From a clean election we should begin (again).
If “the people’s will is frustrated,” demonstrations could make this month’s protests in Thailand seem “mild” by comparison, — Aquino
Am I right to believe the inference, “the people’s will”, concerns his candidacy alone?
Perhaps, he should issue a statement clarifying what he said… I could very well imagine that he wasn’t very clear during the interview, hence the poor journalist had a tough time piecing his thoughts together.
Anna:
Again, I understand. I might not be right on this as only the transcript of the interview would have shown but he answered that way because EDSA 1 was and will always be identified with Cory AQUINO, his mom. My take is, he was asked, based on the premise that he is the frontrunner and the possibility of cheating and if an EDSA type of uprising, like what his mother did, is possible in happening again. I bet the interviewer asked it this way.
🙂
But Henry, to be fair, I like this:
I believe Aquino is not getting balanced advice from several of his Advisers…it is better for now to study very carefully all the “moves” and even the pronouncements he is making as there is nothing as a sure thing until it is a Sure thing…just to remind the famous Yogi Berra’s “it ain’t over ’til it is Over”
RE: Kung sinugod natin si Gloria at Hello Garci sa streets nung 2004, disin sana ay walang unana.
Ginawa namin ito Igan Chi noong EDSA 3, but kita ng buong mundo na ilan ang nagbuwis ng buhay para mabawi ang enchanted kingdom.
Ang kaso bigo ang Masang Pilipino…di kami tinulungan ng Militar o taong simbahan, kundi nanglibak pa…so ano ang naging resulta ng 10-years ni Gloria.
Walang Gloria di ba!
lagi namang may dayaan sa pinas, but i assume this is not what others think when they say they will go to the street.when dagdag bawas becomes too much that it really influence who is the winner, then some may really go to the street.i personally do not believe there will be mass cheating. i suppose all the candidates also believe this. for why will they participate and spend a lot of money if they think there will be mass cheating in the order of hello garci.we ought to vote for the person whom we believe can change pinas for the better and then just hope for the best.
RE: I believe Aquino is not getting balanced advice from several of his Advisers…
Exactly Kgg. Vic, remnant ng EDSA DOS con Hello Garci ang mostly handlers ni Noy Yellow Fever…mga alaskador na nangwalanghiya sa ating saligang batas at 11 milyon botanteng Pinoy.
My standard for selecting is simple: I will vote for the candidate who can prove that he or she was, is and will be diametrically opposed to Gloria. If there’s none, I will cast a blank ballot.
And I have a less than a week to complete my comparisson matrix… 🙂
In fact only 3 days to do it.
What’s difficult is that voting in this presidential election is almost synonimous to gambling.
RE: lagi namang may dayaan sa pinas, but i assume this is not what others think when they say they will go to the street.
Yan ang problema Igan Norpil, bukang-bibig nila e mag-EDSA…ko mo ba matatalo sila sa eleksyon. E bakit di nagawang mandaya nina Tabako noong 1998…kasi nga po e landslide ang pagkanalo ng Pangulong Erap.
Sana maulit ito…para matigil yong speculation nila na baka sila madaya o dayain. Ang kaso e mayroong pekeng orange wannabees at bilyones na ang ginagastos para lang manalo.
Magkakaalam-alam sa Mayo 10! Ang Masang Pinoy against elitista.
Anna, just vote according to your conscience. Cheers!
If “the people’s will is frustrated,” demonstrations could make this month’s protests in Thailand seem “mild” by comparison”.
I dont’ believe. Pinoys are “mild” compared to Thais.
Igan Balweg, iba ang sitwasyon nung sumugod kayo sa EDSA 3 kesa nang katatapos na 2004 eleksyon o kaya ay nang pumanaw si Da king.
Off topic: Just received a text message that PMA class ’71 is for Noynoy. Totoo kaya ito? Diba is Gringo at Ping Lacson ay class ’71?
“Am I right to believe the inference, “the people’s will”, concerns his candidacy alone?”- Anna
Anna,
Nakakatakot nga yang binigkas ni Noynoy. Ibig bang sabihin kung hindi si Aquino ang lalabas na panalo ay nadaya sila? Paano kung si Erap ang manalo ay nadaya din ba sila? Remember that Tabako Ramos, the coup plotter, is behind Noynoy’s candidacy, and ayaw din nyang manalo si Erap knowing na hahabulin siya ng gobyerno ni Erap sa mga kasalanan niya sa bayan. Bigla yata akong ninerbyos ah.
Anna, please check email.
Mind conditioning na naman ba ito ng Ramos’ camp?
What do they fear that Noynoy has to sound people power again?
Takot ba sila na ma-overtake ni Erap si Noynoy sa huli at ito ang manalo? O manalo si Villar?
Just don’t force on us again who you want to lead this country.
Let’s have a credible election this time. Please, no hidden agenda for the calling of a people power…sawa na ako!
Kahit sino ang manalo basta malinis ang eleksyon ay tanggap ng pinoy pero hindi ang dikdikan blues na naman.
RE: Let’s have a credible election this time. Please, no hidden agenda for the calling of a people power…sawa na ako!
AKO din Igan Chi, sawang-sawa na din ah!
Ginawa na kasing profession ng mga trapo at tradpol ang pulitika, kasi nga e ang daling magpayaman at magpasarap sa buhay.
Kita naman ang resulta, purdoy ang Pinas at heto kanda-kuba na ang Pinoy sa hirap ng buhay…buti na lamang at narito ang mga migrante ang OFWs na siyang nagsasalba sa ekonomya ng bansa natin or else para na tayong Somalia.
Yan ang hirap sa mga nagmamarunong sa ating lipunan…ang titigas ng ulo at wala nang inisip na maganda para sa bayan kundi magpayaman at protektahan ang kanilang monkey-business interest.
Hay naku nakakainit ng kukote!
Noynoy mentioned that in the event that there is massive and clear cut cheating, then he could be in the streets together with the people. He never said that… : If He Loses He Would Call For EDSA People Power.
Should there be another Garci-type E-Cheating then, it is up to the people, whether they accept this with apathy or voice out their demand, better yet, march their demand for the real winner to be proclaimed.
ERAP winning over Noynoy, in my honest opinion would not be through cheating. It would be a fair win.
However, if Villar or Gibo wins, people would question the outcome, then the people would have to prove that Villar or Gibo won via cheating, then off to the streets.
To reiterate, Noynoy is calling for People Power should it be clear that cheating has occured. Yeah, I would be there.
aquino is already assuming that he will win the election based on data gathered from less than 10000 voters.what use is the election then, just a formality? — Norpil
Based on what Aquino has said, and there’s no reason to believe that the journalists who quoted him got it all wrong, it seems Aquino believes that this election is mere formality; that the surveys cannot go wrong so that he’s got it in the bag already; that whether we all like it or not, he is headed for Malacanang and that if for some odd reason, he doesn’t win, he will stage people power and become president.
Unless Aquino himself debunks what the journalists wrote and declares that it ain’t so, we can only assume that to him surveys = election.
Anna, just vote according to your conscience. Cheers! — lurker
If it were up to my conscience, I wouldn’t vote at all…
Ilang tulog na lang –
It’s all over but the cheating!
Kapag nanalo, it’s God will! Amen, amen!
Kapag tinalo, dinaya! Aminin, aminin!
Nakakatakot nga yang binigkas ni Noynoy. Luz
Luz, agree. Quite alarming. Not so much because we want cheating but he strikes the wrong chord. But know what? Don’t be takot about it. Watch the ballots!
If by quirk of nature, Aquino, who, in my belief is not remotely presidentiable, gets elected… so be it. But I believe he should pratice turning his tongue, twist it, swallow it or whatever several times before making arrogant pronouncements.
Why the fuck does he need to threaten the nation with people power? lso, he must start being his own man. He must fire the likes of this his main anay Saycon! The shithead is rousing rabble again.
Anna, please check email. Thanks, Ellen!
Ping Lacson ay class ‘71?
I think that’s a given… Ping announced his support for Aquino before his disappearing act.
At the very least, Aquino should have addressed his threat to Gloria Arroyo, eg.,
Ngeek…
Di ba mas okey, instead of his “Surveys say I’m the winner so I’m sure I will win and if I don’t win, I will stage a violent people’s revolt!”
After more of mud-slinging and nothing about any concrete plans to raise the Philippines from the abyss of unprecedented failures, as un-predictable as it has always been, whoever comes out as the president (and vice president)-elect will be met by both applause and boos alike. As usual, the winners would have been the cheaters and losers would have been the cheated. And at oath-taking, the lucky cheat would swear to uphold and defend the constitution at all costs and against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. FINE !!!
The evil that was Gloria is all around us. The biggest challenge to the next leader is to erase the stigma that was GMA and start picking up the pieces to make the Philippines stand proud once again among the league of nations.
The scariest part is when the newly-seated chief executive starts FUCKING around with the constitution to tailor-suit their cravings for power and money just like Gloria did. Then we will have Gloria all over us again under the guise of another fucking name and another fucking face.
No presidentiable in his right mind should base his winning on surveys. Gloria was never accepted by many because her assumption to power was based only on Angara’s diary.
Dyan ako bilib kay FPJ, namatay na pinipilit bilangin ang actual na numero!
And yes, Noynoy should address his warnings to Gloria’s face.
Our only consolation is knowing that GMA’s and her minions’ days are numbered.
Hindi puede mag-alsa ang taumbayan kung “alleged cheating” lang ang dahilan. Dapat may sapat na ebidensya para masabing may malawakang dayaan.
28 April 2010
Geezzz!!!!!! is the election finished??? the gall on noynoy, what does he think, he is the only candidate qualified to be president, and he said that on international news.
Why can’t he wait. better yrt yhe whole LP, NP, PMP, Lakas-Kampi for May 10.
Now I believe in the acronym “ABNOY”
prans
28 April 2010
i mean, I’m beginning to belive in the “ABNOY”
PRANS
Tapos na ba ang eleksion? Sa Pilipinas lahat ay panalo walang talo, kapag talo dinaya. Kung may protesta ito ay abutin ng pagputi ng uwak bago lumabas ang desisyon. Dapat ito ang ayusing problema (bulok na systema) kahit sino ang manalong pangulo at senatongs.
29 April 2010
tama ka dyan diego, lahat na lang ng tumatakbo sa pagka panguto, este pangulo, senatong, este senator, tongressman, este congressman e lahat sila ay pawang matatalino kaya ang Pilipias ay ayaw umasenso.
Kasi nga, yung mga halal, hindi pa nag iinit ang pwet sa upuan e ayan at pinupuntirya ng maalis sa pwesto.
Pag naka-upo naman, panay naman ang pagpapayaman ng mga letse.
Kaya nga ako sa election sa may 10, ang iboboto ko “NOTA” – None of the Above – dahil lahat sila ay pawang mga matatalino lahat.
PWE!!!!!!
prans
Lurker – April 28, 2010 9:56 pm
Off topic: Just received a text message that PMA class ‘71 is for Noynoy. Totoo kaya ito? Diba is Gringo at Ping Lacson ay class ‘71?
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Natatawa na ako sa LP, ganito pala at meron silang balak na magpipol power e bakit tinanggihan nila ang Magdalo? Mas matindi at sigurado sana sila na mailuluklok sa trono si Noynoy na dahilan ay survey kung meron silang PMA class ’71, Gringo at Ping ++++ Magdalo. Kinausap na rin ni Noynoy ang ilang Generals, di ba? Nabasa ko yan. Palagay ko ay meron na sa kanila ang nagkakamot ng ulo, hehehe!
Kung ganoon pala ka accurate ang surveys ng SWS at Pulse sa paniniwala ng kampo nila Noynoy, bakit pa ba tayo kailangan magdaos ng isang halalan na magastos at madugo. Maraming patayan, etc….
Katulad ng aking sinabi sa kabilang thread, ang mga binitiwang salita ni Noynoy ay pinapakita lamang niya ang kanyang tunay na pagkatao. Arogante nga. Tsk, tsk..
ERAP winning over Noynoy, in my honest opinion would not be through cheating. It would be a fair win. -kapatid
Agree 100%. Kaya isurender ng maayos kay Erap, kung sakali. Si Erap kasi kung talo ni Noynoy ay walang problema basta fair lang ang laban, susurender ng maayos yan.
Kung si Villar o Gibo ang manalo, kunin lahat ang evidence ng pandaraya kung meron at sasama ako sa protesta, huwag lang i-annoint base sa survey si Noynoy dahil babalik na naman tayo sa dati.
Ang dapat sikapin ng yellow army ay palakihin ng todo ang agwat ni Noynoy kay Villar para mahirapan makadaya.
Pareng Tedanz:
Kung di sila naniniwala sa surveys, bakit halos maputol ang ugat sa leeg nila sa kalalait kay Aquino? Bakit hindi si Gibo o si Gordon ang pag-usapan nila kung di naman pala totoo? Dahil? Totoo ang surveys? Bakit di sila ang ininterview ng Bloomberg? O naging cover story ng Time magazine? Kaya sila nagwawala ngayon sa inggit at sinasabing arogante si Aquino? Di magpainterview rin sila kung gusto nila. Si Villar nga e handang gumastos ng bilyones manalo lang. Bakit kaya ayaw syang interbyuhin ng foreign press? Andyan si Gibo. Galing at Talino daw? Bakit ayaw nila? O si Pareng Erap kaya? Mas maraming colorful tales and jokes pa silang makukuha di tulad ni Aquino na ‘arogante’ sumagot.Ngayon nga lumabas na yung naunang pekeng psychiatric report ay talaga palang pakana ng mga taga NP. Naiulat na misis pala ni Guido Delgado na si Joy, ang nagpakalat ng email na yun na nahawakan ng abs-cbn. Ngayon lang lumabas ito dahil sa umamin na si Guido Delgado na sya naman ang naglabas ng pangalawang fake na psychiatric report. Sumali na si Erap na kailangan daw magpa psych evaluation ang lahat ng presidential bets in an obvious dig at Aquino. IQ test na lang kaya Mr. Ex-President? lol
How his not-so-brillant brain works and his arrogance is clearly written all over.
Noynoy’s claim that only cheating can make him lose the election is unbelievable if not downright insane. These words can only come from a person whose mind is not stable and has problem with mental health. What makes him so cocky to claim victory even when the election is yet to come? Somebody should tell him that he must show a little bit of sanity, a bit of respect, a bit of restraint and a bit of down-to-earth reality that this thing is not over until it’s over.
Threatening a people power if he loses the election doesn’t register with the people anymore. It’s already passé in this country. If he intends to copy what’s going on in Thailand he is in for a rude awakening. Nobody not Noynoy can mobilize the “masa”people which are being used as the frontliners and cannon fodders to move for him and his elite cronies. Maybe if has the millions to pay for them. EDSAs did not result in the alleviation of the people and reformation of successive governments. It only made the them more corrupt and worst.
But if Noynoy says so, by all means, go ahead, let’s see if he can make “uto-uto” of the people to rally and force them to put him in power as their “shotgun” president, like his mother.
True EDSA to me is like first love. No matter how ardently you chase it, the giddiness, the limerence of first love can never be repeated, even if the new interest is prettier, smarter, etc.
Similarly, EDSA was the first and only spontaneous uprising. True, there are claims about the CIA, El Tabako, etc. But the people (myself included) who responded to Butz Aquino’s “Tulungan natin si Minister Enrile” took to the streets not because of foreign meddling or machinations. You cannot manufacture spontaneity. You may mask a fabricated uprising, but it will be as telltale as your pate, despite the defensive combing from the side.
Spontaneity comes from the heart, and produces widespread acceptance. The people accepted Cory, rich and poor alike; and the world applauded (remember Jane Fonda flashing the Laban sign at the Oscars?) But with EDSA Dos, there was no widespread acceptance. The Economist magazine was critical of the extra-constitutional move, the people did not accept the Glue, and there was the more vociferous EDSA tres.
Sorry Noynoy and bosom buddies. You cannot repeat the phenomenon. That is solely your mother’s to claim (with help from the memory of your father). You may very well win. You may even prove to be better than your mom. But my first love was the hope that your mother inspired and the pride of world recognition. I listened with pride as former Chancellor Willy Brandt of West Germany said that “your people gave the world hope” in a dinner in the house of Jovy Salonga.
You are a poor substitute for that first love Noynoy. If you win, your presidency will be the equivalent of the spouse one learns to live with and grow old with.
I hope you will not mess with my memories of the heady days of 86. Instead of your EDSA Cuatro, I would rather have cuatro cantos and relive the glory of taking to the streets for your mom and the memory of your Dad. You are not worth taking to the streets for. If only for that, I hope you win and get it over with goddamn it.
I will still vote for Erap though.
if Comelec rejects the parallel manual count, that is another sign Comelec will cheat, and those candidates who disagree with the same like villaroyo, giba and dick are the cheaters, Filipinos must not allow the few evil ones in malacanang and comelec to cheat 90 million filipinos again …..
simple lang yan:
Kahit sino manalo basta hindi nandaya, dapat natin tanggapin
Kahit sino manalo basta nandaya, dapat natin patalsikin!
tama lang yang ginawang warning na yan ni Noynoy…
huwang nilang subukan, lalo lang silang masasaktan… maaring may dumanak ng dugo… pero siguradong mas marami ang kulay berde…
malaki ang pagkakaiba ng 2004 presidential election sa 2010 election…
AnnaDeBrux – April 28, 2010 11:08 pm
Ping Lacson ay class ‘71?
I think that’s a given… Ping announced his support for Aquino before his disappearing act.
That’s why I will vote Noynoy!
orson – April 28, 2010 12:11 pm
Ngayon pa lang they are proposing a parallel manual count in the counting. Pa’no pag may discrepancy, sasabihin nila may daya,
igan, kung naging transparent lang ang komolek sa kanilang pinapatupad na sistema sa election automation, hindi magdedemand ng parallel counting ang ibat-ibang sektor ng lipunan… may ipapatupad daw na parallel manual count sa randomly selected precint pero 12 days na lang before election… until now wala pa silang guidelines…
pati yung source code ng automation na gagamitin ng pcos machine ayaw ibigay sa mga grupong gustong magreview… ang dahilan ni Rep Ted Locsin… baka daw kopyahin… amputang katwiran yan! Nagpapaka tangang kongresista! mas binigyan pa ng importansya ang kapakanan ng private company kesa sa kapakanan ng bansa para magkaron ng malinis na halalan..
AnnaDeBrux – April 28, 2010 11:08 pm
Ping Lacson ay class ‘71?
I think that’s a given… Ping announced his support for Aquino before his disappearing act.
That’s why I will vote Noynoy!
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Me too!
Today mag-iissue ng ruling ang Comelec dyan and it appears that a unanimous decision will say NO to parallel manual counting.
question: Since that idea is primarily coming from Noynoy’s camp, what if automated counting shows that Noynoy is winnning while manual count shows otherwise. Will he accept that?
Tanong: Ano gagawin mo Noynoy pag natalo ka at may katiwalian at dayaang naganap?
Sagot Blg. 1.: Sabi ng nanay at tatay ko, okay lang.
Reaksyon: Talagang walang silbi, walang alam, walang backbone, mahina talaga, lambutin, buti nga sa iyo, belat.
Sagot Blg. 2. Kung may dayaan at katiwalaan, lalaban ako at kung kailangan mag karoon ng EDSA revolt, GO!!!
Reaksyon: Mayabang, arogante,akala mo kung sino, gaya gaya sa nanay nya.
Oblak – April 29, 2010 10:03 am
korek ka dyan oblak! Kahit anong maging askyon ni Noynoy, walang mabuti sa kanyang mga kritiko!
All this talk about the evils and the unfairness of surveys. Well, imagine a world without surveys. Imagine a world where surveys are forbidden. Imagine a Philippine election without surveys.
Hell, anybody in power (of the Gloria-like tendencies) could do anything they want with the election results and the people wouldn’t know any better. The people will just accept the results without question. And the Gloria-like creatures reign forever.
Noynoy’s mental issue may be a clicher.
In today’s issue of People’s Tonight, Guido Delgado, the one who presented the second psycho report, doubted the denial of Fr. Bulatao saying that the priest is already retired from teaching, is already 90 years old, and lives in seclusion, and is senile. so Mr. Delgado challenged LP and Ateneo who floated the denial to present Fr. Bulatao himself to publicly declare the denial. If the denial is a fake. Then it means the psycho report is not at all fake and should be taken seriously. At this point, di pa ito isssue. But maybe next week, it will become an issue since Noynoy never said that he did not underwent a psychiatric treatment in the past but merely treat such allegation as smear campaign.
School report cards are a form of surveys. It tells the school administration periodically how well the teachers are teaching and how well the students are learning. It tells the parents how well their children are doing.
Now imagine enrolling your kid in a world where periodic report cards are banned kept secret until after the end of the school year.
I agree with Mr. Cruz. If i may add the position taken by Mr. De Quiroz in his column today:
“We have been reduced to trusting the survey-takers rather than the Comelec. We have been reduced to buying the results of the elections only by comparing them to the results of the surveys. We have been reduced to believing not that surveys can be wrong about elections but that elections can be wrong about surveys.
In these jagged times, what else have we got?”
Personally, I believe in surveys with sound methodology and conducted by reputable/credible survey firms. If my candidate leads in the survey, I am happy. If not, I just feel sad but I do not attempt to discredit the result.
RE: Tanong: Ano gagawin mo Noynoy pag natalo ka at may katiwalian at dayaang naganap?
Di daw papayag ang mga elitista Igan Oblak, ang mga kickedout from enchanted kingdom na remnant ng EDSA DOS con Hello Garci na ngayon e handlers ng Yellow wannabees.
Gustong palabasin e sila na ang panalo sa May 10, mga hambog talaga at lakas ng tama…hanggang survey lang sila but ang tunay na pulso ng bayan e nasa class D and E na around 80% ng botanteng Pinoy.
Alin ang paniniwalaan natin yong survey from around 1,500 or less 2000 respondent na botante o yong makikita natin sa bawat rally ng kandidato bawat lugar na mayroong milyones na dumalo.
Di ba ang Ama ng Masang Pilipino ang pinakamaraming attendance every time na mayroong meeting de abanse, ngayon itong si Noynoy at C5 e laging bukang-bibig lamang sila sa survey.
Bayad kasi eh!
Pader, tingan mo naman yung umaattend sa mga rally ni Erap. Sa palagay mo ba kung walang pansit at pan de sal pupunta ang mga iyon?
Surveys are a science. It is based on statistics which is a science in itself. Done correctly, it can forecast results accurately.
A random sampling of 1,500 or 2,000 ( if truly randomly selected nationwide) is more accurate than counting the number of partisan heads lining the streets or attending a rally in a public plaza.
Yes to EDSA repeat if there will be a GARCI repeat.
So Arroyo should just keep her mouth shot and leave Noynoy alone. She’s nothing but a disgrace to this country. Can’t hardly wait to see her go. Hope who ever wins will go after her and I doubt if it’s Villarroyo.
if the few thousand evil cheaters thought they could cheat again like what they did in 2004, they better think very very hard again, because just the curse and shout of 90 million filipinos will be enough to send them all straight to Hell ……..
it will be very difficult if not impossible for a questionable winner who people perceived to have won by cheating to govern, the political temper had drastically shifted since August 1, 2009 when the late Pres Cory passed away, from widespread apathy there is now raging empathy and involvement , one could feel the controlled restraint by angry citzens against ths evil regime , hoping for a clean election, if the lection will be dirty, then all hell will break loose and evil heads will roll ……..
RE: Pader, tingan mo naman yung umaattend sa mga rally ni Erap. Sa palagay mo ba kung walang pansit at pan de sal pupunta ang mga iyon?
Well, Igan Oblak…yan ang sinira ko during our welcome pameeting sa aming kandidato pagka-Mayor last April 14.
Kasi bukang-bibig ng marami puro pera daw yong dumadalo sa pa meeting ng mga pulitiko…reverse ito to prove na umabot morethan 1,000 botante ang dumalo sa pagwelcome namin sa aming kandidato against sa incumbent Mayor namin.
Katicket ni Noynoy ang incumbent at natauhan kasi ang meeting de abanse e ginanap sa aming compound kumpara sa incumbent na hawak niya ang munisipyo.
Kami bilang mamamayan ang nagdala ng meeting na yon kaya successful kahit wala kaming kapitang barangay sampu ng mga konsehales at tanod na sumusuporta sa incumbent.
Anga aming pameeting from 49 barangays sa aming bayan ang pinakatahimik, organize, at isa sa pinakamaraming dumalo from our constituents at walang hakot dito at walang perang involves.
Ang mga prominenteng tao e naglabasan ng house para lang maka-attend sa meeting na ito…so grabe ang saya at ligaya ng aming kandidatong Mayor a malaki na ang lamang namin sa manok ni Noynoy?
Kaya i don’t believe na kaya lang dadalo ang Masang Pinoy e dahil sa tsibog o anu pa man…pwedeng mangyari kung hakot system gaya ng ibang kandidato.
Ang Ama ng Masang Pilipino e subok na at kita naman last 1998 at sinundan pa ng 2004 at 2007 eleksyon na naging sendaro si Loi at Jingoy.
Si Noynoy nga e naupo sa senado sa tulong ng pangulong Erap…sa kabila ng panghuhudas nila noong EDSA DOS con Hello Garci.
Iba ang karisma ni Pangulong Erap sa Masa at destiny ito Igan!
Kung obvious na nagkadayaan anong gagawin ninyo?
Mag-EDSA igan MB…Erap Daw Sagot Alsa-balutan!
Opsss, walang hihirit…ako ang unang nakasagot sa question ng ating kaibigan MB.
Demokrasya nga pala, kaya open ang magpahayag ng saloobin at sapantaha…kaya hirit na!
Erap said in an intrview that he will not allow or support another people’s power since these (EDSA) wee the very reason why our country in now in the doldrums. He also said that whoever wins in the May 10 elections as long as it’s clean, fair and credible, be it Noynoy or Villar, he will accept and support the next president.
…were the reason…
Two of the issues that have been hurled by the Remullas and Villar against Noynoy are the Hda. Luisita and SCTEX issues. Winnie Monsod writes about it in her column yesterday in Business World.
One of the clearest reports I’ve read regarding these issues.
http://www.bworldonline.com/main/content.php?type=9
…….maaring may dumanak ng dugo… pero siguradong mas marami ang kulay berde… – perl.
Dugo ng mga hunyango!
Puwede ring dugo ng mga klabing na tulo laway.
Mike – April 29, 2010 1:26 pm
RE: …were the reason…
In layman’s word Igan Mike…paanong magkaka-EDSA e sure winner ang Pangulong ERAP!
If, 80% ng Masang Pinoy e iboto siya sa May 2010! or else TALO. Tapos ang issue…sa kanila ang enchanted kingdom at mananahimik na lamang ang mga Eraptians.
Ganyan talaga ang buhay…weather weather lang di ba!
Tanong: Ano gagawin mo Noynoy pag natalo ka at may katiwalian at dayaang naganap?
Sagot Blg. 1.: Sabi ng nanay at tatay ko, okay lang.
Reaksyon: Talagang walang silbi, walang alam, walang backbone, mahina talaga, lambutin, buti nga sa iyo, belat.
Sagot Blg. 2. Kung may dayaan at katiwalaan, lalaban ako at kung kailangan mag karoon ng EDSA revolt, GO!!!
Reaksyon: Mayabang, arogante,akala mo kung sino, gaya gaya sa nanay nya. Oblak
He he he.
Wawa naman si Noynoy. Sala sa init, sala sa lamig. Kung hindi labuting lampa, sasabihan na mayabang na’y hambog pa.
Ano naman kaya kung gang gawin nu’ng mama ay pumalahaw ng iyak at maglulupasay sa lupa?
Ikaw talaga, Kosang Oblak, oo. ano ba talaga?
Huwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!
Since many of Villar’s mudslinging issues against Noynoy didn’t fly ( in fact, they boomeranged), his camp has asked that mudslinging be stopped already. Can’t stand the smell of their own smuck when it flies back into their faces.
So now they go back to the “competence and experience” issue in the last two minutes of play..hoping this is the best issue against Noynoy. Villar has been bragging that he is the best candidate because is more competent.. has more experience than any candidate.
As Cory once said to Marcos who called her a mere housewife..Yes, I have no competence, no experience in stealing and cheating and lying…or something to that effect.
Villar has practiced his swindling and influence-peddling craft well. He is prepared. Very well prepared… to bring the country down on its already bended knees.
Kung hindi LAMBUTING lampa….
RE: Dugo ng mga hunyango!
Isama na din natin Igan MPR ang kanilang kauri na mga balimbing.
Ang tropang yellow wannabees e kasapakat ang karamihan sa enchanted kingdom at kaututang-dila ang grupong villarroyo.
Di ba EDSA DOS conspirators ang majority sa kanila na ngayon e nagbabangong-puri since na makickedout sa enchanted kingdom kasi sinolo ng mga tuta ni gloria ang kapangyarihan kaya nagalsa-balutan ang remnant ng Noynoy & Villarroyo handlers.
Sila itong maiingay ngayon, akala nila madaling makalimot ang dinusta nilang 11 milyong botante noong EDSA DOS at nagsihirit pa with Hello Garcimania.
Only Erap and his minions ang nanatiling oposisyonista agaisnt gloria’s regime…nakisawsaw lang itong yellow & villarroy wannabees ko mo etsapwera na sila sa enchanted kingdom.
Kaya yong Oakwood ang PEN sieges e nilangaw kasi walang suporta ang Masang Pilipino kundi mga elitista na mapagkunwari at balat-sibuyas.
Aquino’s pronouncement was not in any way clothed with finesse. Again, at the very least, if his aim was to go through the democratic exercise that’s called election be (or his alalays) wouldn’t have been rabble rousing. Why did he not address his warning direct to Gloria and her operators (who would do everything and anything to get one of her two dogs elected)?
Why did he threaten a nation with “people’s power” if or when he is not declared the winner which to my mind is downright irresponsible?
In other words, no matter how you turn Aquino’s (and his alalays’) declaration around, it was meant to browbeat people, i.e.,
He forgotten this presidential contest doesn’t only involve him?
He probably is starting to believe that because the surveys are now in his favour, May 10, in fact is a political exercise involving a referendum involving him and him alone whereby people are simply asked to tick the box “Yes!” or “No”, i.e., “Do you approve of Aquino being president or not: Choose yes or no!” (Much like the French referendum that got Charles de Gaulle to remain in power.) Not an election at all!
I think he is starting to take leave of his his senses…
Good Lord!
And to think that I’ve been up in arms defending him against a friend of mine from the press (attacked her is more like it) who’s just written that he was in fact nuts.
After 9 long years of agony, it boils to this — a choice between a Spineless Neurotic and a Shrewd LandGrabber.
Take your pick.
And Happy Fiesta, People!
After 9 long years of agony, it boils down to this — a choice between a Spineless Neurotic and a Shrewd LandGrabber.
Take your pick.
And Happy Fiesta, People!
Noynoy’s comment is not bad really, it shows he has guts after all. He doesn’t have to conform to our expectations just a decent person and start the ball rolling, its best not to make much of it. There are far worst issues really, why react as if he killed 57 people?
Jug because there’s more to it than what was reported.
And that is not about balls… that is what we call, where I sit, de la cupidité!
He should have threatened Gloria but not the people with turning the nation upside down if he is not installed president.
His friends who are, as we speak, gathering people to form warm bodies with the help of selected military officials if he is not declared winner is just a bit too much.
This is not about clean elections anymore — it’s about a referendum on his and his person alone.
Threat to turn the nation upside down if not installed president!
To him and his handlers because surveys are in his favour, the May 10 political exercise has become a simple referendum matter – about him and him only, whereby people will be asked to tick a “Yes” or “No” box, i.e., “Do you accept Aquino …as your president?” and no longer the presidential contest pitting 9 candidates against each other.
Oo nga Chi…
… meron silang balak na magpipol power e bakit tinanggihan nila ang Magdalo? Mas matindi at sigurado sana sila na mailuluklok sa trono si Noynoy na dahilan ay survey kung meron silang PMA class ‘71, Gringo at Ping ++++ Magdalo. Kinausap na rin ni Noynoy ang ilang Generals, di ba? Nabasa ko yan. Palagay ko ay meron na sa kanila ang nagkakamot ng ulo, hehehe!
Pag nanalo yang si Aquino, gagantihan siguro niya ang mga Magdalo! Putangina!
Jug because there’s more to it than what was reported. -Anna
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Yeah, they better ask Noynoy or his advisers for “the more to it” stuff, iniiwan yata sila sa pansitan. 🙂
Anna, Noynoy and advisers fear the Magdalo more than anybody else, the reason why they don’t want the young officers working with them. And now, they fear the thought that Noynoy would not beccome president so they are sounding the horns aggressively with unfounded basis. So many fears eh!
Calm down Noynoy. Don’t do whatever your damn advisers tell you to do. Think before launching a grenade…
latest survey released today shows Noynoy again in number one at 39% , while villaroyo is further down and tie now with Erap..
@Balweg, #101:
The reason why I quoted Erap (#97) is to compare it with what Noynoy said in the interview. Comparing both statements, mas mukhang maginoo, mahinahon at di arogante ang ipinahayag ni Erap kumpara sa sinabi ni Noynoy. Mas mukhang basagulero si Noynoy, gusto ng giyera. 😛
Mike,
Mas mukhang basagulero si Noynoy, gusto ng giyera.gusto ng giyera
Funny, I said something similar thing too: “Sounds like a formal declaration of war…”
Chi,
Natawa ako sa advice mo kay Aquino: “Calm down Noynoy.
Loaded!!! 🙂
Thanks, Anna, for using bold. 🙂
RE: Mas mukhang basagulero si Noynoy, gusto ng giyera.
Sinabi mo pa Igan Mike, aroganteng elitista…kung tutuusin e nakiride on lang sila sa EDSA ONE coz’dapat ang naging bayani dito e ang mga aktibista na nakikipagpatintero kay Apo Macoy hanggang sa bundok eh.
Ngayon…gagawin pang bayani itong si Ninoy at santita naman si Cory, hay naku tao nga naman. Ang dapat gawing bayani yaong nagbuwis ng buhay against Marcos tyranny, pero ano, ang mga Aquino ang tinanghal na bayani…di ako pabor diyan.
Si Ninoy e may vested interest din yan na gustong maging pangulo ang kaso di umubra ang galing niya kay Apo Macoy, but atleast naisalba pa din yong dream niya at si santita Cory ang ginawang pangulo ng EDSA ONE wannabees.
Actually ang grupo ni Doy Laurel ang siya dapat na maluklok sa poder ng kapangyarihan sapagka’t sila ang dominant party na against kay Apo Macoy pero nasalisihan sila nina Tabako na nagala robin hood kasi nga tepok sila ng oras na yon kung nakaporma ang tropang KBL.
Well, napag-uusapan lang naman kasi nga itong si Noynoy e akala mo ang tapang…pero isa ring sipsip at sigurista nang kapanalig pa niya si Gloria.
Ngayon…ng hindi niya makuha ang gusto e humingi ng basbas kay Pangulong Erap upang tanggapin na mapabilang sa ticket ng PMP sa pagkasenador.
Wais talaga…yong i am soryy ni santita Cory e siyang naging kalakal para mapasama sa tropang maka-Masa, but after all e lumabas din ang tunay na kulay.
Playing safe din sila ni mr. Palengke…kita naman sa sesyon sa senado, kunyari pa sila e bistado na ang kanilang hasang.
it seems to me that some may have misinterpreted the value of statistics/surveys.a great mathematician/statistician once said that statistical analysis can be correct in general but not necessarily in particular.statistics specially if based on human beings is always changing for otherwise they have to survey only once and thats it.this is why no survey can replace election, some people may even change their minds after election day but that is too late. i read also somewhere here that report cards are surveys and wonder how things will be in a world without report cards for children.i think it is good for children in the elementary schools not to have grades or report cards.i see it here in norway that there is a value in making children think that they are all alike and that nobody is stupid nor some are clever. grading pupils at a very early age can make a lot of them feel losers.
Sometimes I could count myself lucky..one time someone asked me If I decided to have a dual citizen by again taking an oath of allegiance and I said I would refuse to again swear allegiance to my country where I did not renounce and will never renounce, and if that means forfeiting the privilege to vote so be it…it is kind of hard for now to choose among the Candidates, but if have to…my choice for President is Teodoro. and that is all about it.
Of course it’s silly to say that it’s all over and Noynoy is the winner. It’s equally silly to put too much emphasis on surveys. We just have to vote for whoever we think, feel and HOPE to be the best candidates.
Again, let me reiterate: Noynoy never said he would call for People Power or EDSA or any street action. What he said was:
“Kung” mapanuyan na mayroon Dayaan sa halalan, he would call on the people to march through EDSA. And as I have posted previously, if cheating is done, as usual with impunity, I would join the march.
I do not think at all that Noynoy is thinking that this election is like a referendum of some sort.
I recommend posters re-read the story above, especially paragraph 3. Note of the “IF” word.
Ganito na lang kaya ang scenario :
Failure of Election na lang on national level. Gloria wins in the 2nd district, No Senate President, No Senate quorum. Whoa! Jackpot tayo… Gloria is Prime Minister.
“If we have a correct counting of the votes, I think we will be very victorious,” said Aquino, whose mother toppled dictator Ferdinand Marcos amid protests that followed a rigged election in 1986. If “the people’s will is frustrated,” demonstrations could make this month’s protests in Thailand seem “mild” by comparison, he said in an interview in Manila yesterday.
I don’t see anything here saying “if I’m not elected president, I will launch another EDSA of sorts…
Unfortunately, the “masa” some people here are always talking about are unemployed, underemployed, squatters, and non taxpayers, who get easily riled up by agitators who talk about the good old days, remind them of their misery and then pointing blame on the rich. This insane habit of inciting class wars has to stop really. There are no class A, B, C, D, E, to Z, just motivated and apathetic (ones who don’t have any drive to make their lives better and behave as though the world owes them a living), ones whos misery opportunists take advantage of easily…come to think of it, both Erap and Villar need to get themselves checked out as evidently they suffer from a serious case of delusions of poverty…and so do the “makamasa” kuno but ca afford to blog…
kapatid,
Or Noynoy, Erap, and Villar obliterate each other…and Gibo wins! now Gloria will be jumping for joy and give her best lapdog a pat on the head…
From Dick Orense:
I believe this is too presumptuous of Mr. Aquino and indeed preposterous!
How can he claim that? Does he think those surveys tell all the opinions and thinking of the majority Filipino people?
I am not for anyone but I am for a presidential candidate who has good achievements in the past, can impose discipline and good moral character among its citizenry and who can turn our country into a city like Hong Kong, Singapore, UAE and Malaysia.
Does Mr. Aquino think he is the sure winner in May 2010 election just because of the surveys? The real survey is the result of the May 2010 election and not those surveys made by their friends, supporters and sponsors.
Surveys do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the majority but only the minority and most of the time is self-serving, meaning for a vested interest.
Please, please and I say again please do not even insinuate that another Edsa 1,would happen. If there would be any, I would fight for a true Philippine democratic system of government but not the kind of the result of Edsa 1 and 2.
They are fake and has not achieve anything concrete and momentous results in our Philippine society. Look at us, where are we now? What have those senators and congressmen done so far for the last decade? Have we achieved anything compared to the achievements of our asean neighbors?
Let’s not be hyprocrite. Let’s tell all to the filipino people that we are going bananas. Our economy is simply sagging. Why are we still going abroad for work? Why has our government, especially those senators and congressmen asking for our votes now, lagged behind in development? Where have all those millions of pork barrels gone? To their switzerland, uk, usa accounts? To flashy and expensive cars and suvs? look at our surroundings? Full of trash wherever you go? Full of beggars sleeping in every nook of the city? Look around your neighborhood ? Do we see all streets are properly lighted? Ttidy and clean streets?
My family went to Pangasinan and going back to QC, we were dismayed to find that the SCTEX/NLEX are not even lighted. its total darkness from tarlac. What is that? Why is that being permitted by you guys who are supposed to have the millions of pork barrels. my goodness, please do not assume that you are the choice of the Filipino people. We have other very good candidates too, we have Gordon, Gibo, Villanueva, Perlas, and even Estrada.
Excuse me for being open and frank. Remember this is a democratic country.
The people’s voice will be heard loud and clear once there’s clear cheating of the Presidency. Who will bear the brunt?
Let’s not be hyprocrite. Let’s tell all to the filipino people that we are going bananas. Our economy is simply sagging. Why are we still going abroad for work? Why has our government, especially those senators and congressmen asking for our votes now, lagged behind in development?
There you go again…time and time again, some people blame others for their lot in life, when the truth is they can’t hack it here so they have to go somewhere and kiss some foreigner’s ass to make a living. If you fail here and have to go abroad its your fault, not the country’s, there are so many who stayed and still succeeded, sheesh…being frank is not bad but being imature is unforgivable.
…ps I’m also kissing some foreigners’ asses but i don’t blame anyone…. 🙂
I’m afraid that even if the powers that be will actually cheat, ie Villar or even Gibo wins, there’s not much we can do. The administration has been testing the waters with Jocjoc, ZTE, Charter Change, and even the latest Ampatuan issue and lets admit it, there wasn’t much reaction…so many people have forgotten or do not understand what EDSAs are and some despise it or don’t even care…Gloria has successfully neutered the Filipino people, no one has the balls…so Noynoy might just be standing alone in EDSA next time, “kawawang Pilipinas” or something Yuko would have said…
I’m afraid that even if the powers that be will actually cheat, ie Villar or even Gibo wins, there’s not much we can do. The administration has been testing the waters with Jocjoc, ZTE, Charter Change, and even the latest Ampatuan issue and lets admit it, there wasn’t much reaction…so many people have forgotten or do not understand what EDSAs are and some despise it or don’t even care…Gloria has successfully neutered the Filipino people, no one has the balls…so Noynoy might just be standing alone in EDSA next time, “kawawang Pilipinas” or something Yuko would have said…———–juggernaut – April 30, 2010 3:39 pm
Spot on, igang jug. I totally agree with you.
Assuming there was clear massive cheating like what happened in the Garcified elections,
and still the Comelec and the Electoral Tribunal ignore all electoral protests as merely “noted”,
and still declare that presidential candidate as the winner, and Gloria wins her Congress seat,
and is chosen Speaker of the House,
what will you do?
Juggernaut comments:
There you go again…time and time again, some people blame others for their lot in life, when the truth is they can’t hack it here so they have to go somewhere and kiss some foreigner’s ass to make a living. If you fail here and have to go abroad its your fault, not the country’s, there are so many who stayed and still succeeded, sheesh…being frank is not bad but being imature is unforgivable.
…ps I’m also kissing some foreigners’ asses but i don’t blame anyone.
The response is totally out of tune, why poke on the going abroad of OFWs? That is purely their choice and not as Juggernaut said OFWs can’t hack it here so they have to go somewhere and kiss someone’s ass their. Its not a matter of failing here in the Philippines but rather the Philippine government and its governing officials have failed to provide the necessary jobs for our graduates.
Mind you, if not for the going abroad of OFWs ” Saan kaya pupulutin ang Pilipinas ngayon? sabi nga ni Erap, malamang sa kankungan. We should be more thankful to the OFWs for the billions of US dollars that they have remitted and made our economy float.
Tapos sasabihin mo, they have failed here in the Philippines. Wake up kabayan! Saan ka kaya patutungo? I don’t know about your maturity but one should not demean others capacity. Wag kang magmamarunong.
My question is a repeat of a question asked by MB, I believe, in a past thread. The time has come to ask ourselves this question.
Do we just lie down, raise our eyes to heaven and say “Amen, Amen”… or hit the streets in indignation?
From a friend who asked that his identity be withheld:
There are some questions that must be asked regarding Noynoy’s postulates in the preceding interview.
1. Since he said that the only way he can lose is if he get cheated, why go thru the elections? Why not declare him winner now?
2. He threatened of another “people power” revolt if he does not win. Will he be at the forefront of this action to face the forces that will thwart such a move? Or will he be in a convent under the protection of the nuns? And will he accept the responsibility for the consequences of this action, regardless?
3. Noynoy is the only one claiming victory at this point base perhaps on the favorable surveys. Are the surveys the election? Again, why go thru the election when the surveys already declared Noynoy winner?
4. What if Villar, Gordon, Estrada and the rest of the Candidates declare too, that the only way they will lose is if they are cheated? And that if such happens, it will be people on the streets demanding they be proclaimed the winner? Why go thru the Moro-moro when everybody will just contest the results and put everything to naught? In the 1986 snap election between Cory and FM, the yellow brigade was able to condition the mind of the noisy civil society that defeat would only be the result of being cheated. When the election results were being tabulated, Namfrel and the yellow operatives, established a winning trend for Cory by showing metropolitan centers results first. When the votes from the rural areas started to show that FM was on the way to victory, the NCI personnel walked out and Namfrel ended its count satisfied that their mission was accomplished. The people’s mind was cooked.
5. What if Noynoy is declared the winner? Will he proclaim the honesty and the cleanliness of the election? Will it get his stamp of approval? What if the losing candidates declare they were cheated? Will Noynoy profess that him and his supporters are incapable of cheating?
6. He reasoned out that the 12 year non-performance as a legislator is a proof of his non-cooperation with vested interest groups. Question is, other than doing nothing to promote these vested interest groups, what did he do against them? As sir Doy always ends: For evil to succeed, good men must do nothing.
7. Noynoy cited his experience of selling Nike products(Like MJ) and helping his mother stumped the numerous coups as proofs of his leadership and managerial skills. It must be quite a pole vault to accomplish catapulting from salesman to President.
8. Nonoy trumpets that his nearest rival is a crook while he belongs to an incorruptible family. Perhaps people like him, descendants of politicians who managed to survive even during the Japanese occupation while living in glasshouses, must refrain from throwing rocks that other people can pick up and throw back. Incorruptible family?
Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales indirectly branded Liberal Party (LP) presidential candidate Sen. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino “crazy.”
O, hayan…pati si Cardinal Rosales e bad word na din ang namutawi sa mouth?
Noynoy’s call for people power ‘crazy’ — cardinal (source: http://www.tribune.net.ph/)
This “crazy” tag was in relation to comments made by the prelate to reporters yesterday who had asked for his view on a candidate’s call for mounting a people power revolt in the event he is cheated out of his presidential victory.
“That (call for another Edsa I revolt repeat) is crazy. Crazy. Crazy,” he said, virtually saying that anybody who issues such warnings of yet another people power should have his head examined.
Yaks, ang prince of Catholic Church e magsalita ng crazy…ok lang kung kumakanta siya, pero sa puso galing ang pagkadismaya sa hallucination ni Noynoy na baka siya madaya sa eleksyon.
E, yaong survery e pro-yellow army at ang taga-tsismis naman e ang ABS-CBN…kaya mind conditioning ito ng mga eletista.
Ubos na pasensya ng Masang Pilipino sa inyong mga yellow wannabees…lalo na sa ginawa ng ABS-CBN noong EDSA DOS at pagiging arogante noong EDSA Tres kaya niresbakan sila ng Masang Pinoy?
Inquirer:
Cardinal Rosales: call for People Power irresponsible and crazy
Natisod ko sa isang blogsite: source (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419064#post39378581)
Ang bloggers e si rhk111, ang topic: Noynoy Aquino Accomplishments Thread!
Okay ….. I dare the Noynoy-Abnoy supporters to put as much substance as they can here. I predict this is going to be a very SHORT thread.
LOL
‘Wag ka naman ganyan. Ansama mong tao. Meron rin naman. Umpisahan ko:
– Binantayan ang nanay ng magka coup.’
‘O, ayan, meron na.’
LOL
Paki basa ng buo ang topic na ito at hahagakgak kayo ng tawa…ang mga bloggers pala dito e may sense of humor din!
Tnx.
From: LimpBwiZit bloggers ng Pinoyexchange
Ang kanyang comment:
stay single and child-less for 50 years, and counting, after getting involved with the likes of korina sanchez, bernadette sembrano, barbara milano, and shalani soledad.
isn’t that an accomplishment?
come to think of it, post-EDSA, he is one of only two single men to run for president (the other one being Manoling Morato).
Ano nga ba nagawa ni Noynoy ?
Ang komento ni: Kraven ng Pinoyexchange
Ano nga ba nagawa ni Noynoy?
Academic Honors : None.
Business Awards/Distinctions: None.
Number of laws created for being a legislator for 12 YEARS : None.
Family Life : No wife, No kids.
Father’s Instruction to take care of Kris: Failed.
Mother’s Instruction not to run for president this election: Failed.
Showbiz Supporters: Probably 100+
Balweg,
Interesting yung latest comment dyan sa PEX blogsite. Linking to this site about Noynoy’s Major depressive Disorder. A letter daw from NyoyNyoy’s former classmate.
http://kalderetangkwento.blogspot.com/
Cardinal Rosales: “Calls for People Power irresponsible and crazy”
Ayan, even Cardinal Rosales is saying yang nagpapalutang ng possible people power eh… CRAZY. Hahaha!Confirmed!
Kawawa naman si Nyoynyoy kung totoo ngang may sakit siya sa utak . Kaya nga ba sabi ng nanay niya na huwag pumasok sa pulitika eh. Ayan, baka unti-unti na nating malaman ang kanyang lifestory. Si Erap kasi, tagal nang open book eh.
All candidates must’ve procalimed their winning come May 10. If you are in a competition, you pronounce and project Positive. Gibo has proclaimed his win in Cebu. Let me check other sorties of other candidates when they have proclaimed that they would win and have won.
I would not follow Cardinal Rosales, especially so that he is the one who declared that :
“Truth and Lies are the Same. And the money is merely Icing on the Cake”.
This was said during a meeting at CBCP.