The statement said, “The Secretary-General is closely following the situation in Sabah, Malaysia. He urges an end to the violence and encourages dialogue among all the parties for a peaceful resolution of the situation.
“The Secretary-General expresses concern about the impact this situation may have on the civilian population, including migrants in the region. He urges all parties to facilitate delivery of humanitarian assistance and act in full respect of international human rights norms and standards.”
A tearful Kiram III immediately ordered a unilateral ceasefire to his forces in Lahad Datu, Sabah led by his younger brother, Raja Muda Agbimuddin Kiram.
Sultanate spokesperson Abraham Idjirani announced: “The Sultan (Jamalul Kiram III) is calling for a unilateral cease-fire of the sultanate of Sulu effective this hour, 12:30 in the afternoon [of Thursday],” adding that the ball is now in Malaysia’s court. Latest reports say the Malaysians are not reciprocating.
Lauro Baja Jr., who once served as Philippine Permament Representative to the United Nations, said, “We should welcome the statement attributable to the spokesperson of the UN Secgen. This means that the UN has taken cognizance of the situation in Sabah and has also voiced our concerns on dialogue and peaceful resolution and on delivery of humanitarian assistance and full respect for intl human rights. It can also mean that Malaysia can no longer control the developments as it pleases.”
Malaysia has rejected UN’s ceasefire call. As of this writing Malacañang has yet to react to the UN call.
It’s a far cry from tempo the other day (Wednesday), when Malacañang was in a frenetic damage control mode with both Malacanang and the Department of Foreign Affairs issuing statements one after another.
I’m interested to see how the Aquino government would react to the “internationalization” of the Sabah standoff issue because in the beginning they tried to treat it as a domestic issue, a police matter.
Remember when he made his Feb. 26 statement dismissing the Kirams’ stand on their Sabah claim a “hopeless cause,” he was flanked by Interior Secretary Mar Roxas and Justice Secretary Leila de Lima? Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario, who was quick to rush to the Middle East every time there was an outbreak of war was nowhere in the picture.
It was only last week, after more than 30 had been reported killed that Del Rosario was dispatched to Kuala Lumpur to meet with his counterpart to appeal for “maximum tolerance” which the Malaysians ignored.
After that, the situation became farcical. It is tempting to view it as a comedy of errors if only there were no human lives lost and many more at risk.
Out of nowhere, DFA disclosed that the letter of Kiram III requesting for a meeting with President Aquino way back in 2010, which he said was “lost in the bureaucratic maze” was discovered at the foreign office. And Del Rosario was writing an apology to Kiram III.
But Del Rosario was not the secretary of Foreign Affairs at that time. It was Alberto Romulo. Why was he apologizing for something that did not happen under his watch? They clearly needed a scapegoat or fall guy.
They need something to divert the attention from the Sabah crisis. The Atimonan report was released by De Lima.
There were other side issues that cropped up like the Malaysian Foreign Ministry statement saying Del Rosario agreed to call Filipinos allegedly involved in the clashes in Lahad Datu and Semporna, Sabah “terrorists.”
Del Rosario said he was taken out of context.
The highlight of last Wednesday’s battle for the hearts and minds of Filipinos on the Sabah issue was the speech of Aquino in General Santos City. It was rather lengthy, a repetition of what he has been saying the past days .
Choice cuts from his remarks: “Inaangkin nila ang Sabah, saan ba nagmula ’yung problema na hindi na sa kanila? Hindi ba galing sa ninuno nila na nagbigay nung lease o nung awtoridad sa British para mamahala sa Sabah.
“Sa ngayon ho, nagkakaroon tayo ng propaganda war. Kayo po testigo, nagmakailang ulit na po akong nakikiusap na kung pupuwede lumikas doon, bumalik na muna dito at pag-usapan natin ang problema niyo, sa ulit, mapayapa at mahinahon na pamamaraan. Mali ho ba ‘yung mungkahing ‘yon? Tama ho ba ‘yung sinusugsog ng ilan na dapat suportahan natin ‘yung mga nandoon na may dala-dalang armas, na nagkaroon na ng patayan? ‘Yung Malaysia po at ang Pilipinas, ang relasyon nila nagkaroon ng maraming kulay dahil dito sa isyu ng Sabah. Huwag ho nating kalimutan, ano, ang sinusulong nila ‘yung karapatan nila bilang heirs raw po ng Sultan of Sulu. Hindi pa ganoon kaliwanag na ‘yung karapatan nila ibinahagi na sa Pilipinas. Pero sa away nila, idadamay tayong lahat.”
This is the choicest of his quotes: “Pasensiya na ho kayo kung may halong emosyon ‘yung talumpati ko sa inyo ngayon. Talagang, alam ho niyo, na-ambush nga ako noong ‘87 po. Tatlo sa apat kong kasamahan patay.”
Gets nyo?
Bwahahaha naman ang choicest of Pnoy’s quotes, ano naman kinalaman sa isyu ng Sabah???? Gets ko, dahil dun sa 87′ ambush sa kanya naging unstable ang pangulo. 🙂
Wala, wala akong arguments sa choice cuts, hehehe!
But Del Rosario was not the secretary of Foreign Affairs at that time. It was Alberto Romulo. Why was he apologizing for something that did not happen under his watch? They clearly needed a scapegoat or fall guy.
Del Rosario is apologizning on behalf of the office of the Foreign Affairs not for its former occupants…why, just Rercently, PM Harper apologized to the First Nations for the Unjust Treatment they received from the previous Governments in the Forced “Christianization” of the First Nations Children in co-operation with various Christian Faiths by Separating them from their MOTHERS and sending them to the Boarding Schools…He Apologized on Behalf of all Canadians and the Apology was accepted by the First Nations in a Solemn Ceremony at the Parliament Hill…
I would not call it Internationalization of the issue, but it is a call by the UN Secretary General to stop the carnage and all parties to the conflict to settle with dialogue, which was also the same calls made by leaders of both countries if the followers of the Sultanate will lay down their arms and surrender unconditionally…the unilateral ceasefire declared by the Datu is only good on his side if rejected by the other side and the UN has no enforcement power over the conflicts between the parties..Malaysia is aware of it. The surrender option is still open…better grab it before more lives will be lost.
Pagkatapos hindi kagatin ng publiko ang conspiracy theory kailangan the administrasyon needed someone big enough to be its scapegoat, and DFA Sec. del Rosario was the easiest scape for Pnoy’s slips.
I have high regards with Sec. del Rosario. Why did he let himself become a fall guy of Pnoy?
high regards for…
“I’m interested to see how the Aquino government would react to the “internationalization” of the Sabah standoff issue because in the beginning they tried to treat it as a domestic issue, a police matter.”
Yes, I am very interested on what advice on “internalization” Pnoy will get from his ‘choice’ team who apparently is very poor in crisis management.
Susme!!! Kapatid nga ni Kris.
Fight to the death ang unang sigaw nila. Ngayon na nagkabarilan na biglang unilateral cease naman ang sigaw nila.
Ano ba talaga tsong?
@7 at was a very bad bluff and was called…lesson…don’t bluff with no cards to play…
MB,
UNILATERAL ang keyword sa masalimuot na usaping ito…
Unilateral daw ang desisyon ng Great Britain.
Unilateral daw ang 1963 referendum para sa Malaysia.
Unilateral na rin para sa mga Kiram na nasa Sabah ngayon ang kanilang ceasefire dahil isolated na sila at pagsuko na lang ang katapat.
Passive ang U.N. diyan kasi may laya pa rin ang bansang “nagtatanggol lang ng seguridad”. Ang Royal Army ay hindi naman kumakatawan sa isang bansa.
Natutuwa ako sa desisyon ng Malaysia na huwag makipag ceasefire. Tuloy ang barilan. Hindi biro ang ganun, sige magbarilan. Iyan ang maganda. Gusto ng gulo eh di pagbigyan. Itong mga nasa Kiram camp para talagang mga bata. Mahiya nga kayo sa sarili niyo. Iyon ang maganda walang ceasefire. Palibhasa ang Kiram camp nasanay na siguro sa barilan dito sa Pinas na pagkatapos ceasefire. Dahil war is business.
http://arvin95.blogspot.com/2011/02/war-is-business.html
Para sa Malaysian government hangad ko na pagbigyan ang gusto ng Kiram camp. Hindi ang ceasefire ibig kong sabihin. Kundi ang pakikipagbarilan. Pumunta sila na may mga baril kaya harapin sila ng may mga baril din. Good Luck sa engkuwentro.
#4
Dahil ayaw siguro maging fall girl ni Deles?
Tandaan, ang unang liham ay pinadala sa OPAPP, hindi sa DFA. Nanggaling yan mismo sa bibig ng kabayong kalbo.
“But the Philippine Daily Inquirer suggested that the call for the unilateral ceasefire was in view of the reported massacre committed by the Malaysian authorit[ies] against 40 innocent civilians in Lahad Datu yesterday (Wednesday), according to Idjirani.”
http://borneoinsidermirror.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/najib-lay-down-arms-and-surrender-unconditionally/
Aquino blames forefathers of Sultan of Sulu.
“Inaangkin nila ang Sabah, saan ba nagmula ’yung problema na hindi na sa kanila? Hindi ba galing sa ninuno nila na nagbigay nung lease o nung awtoridad sa British para mamahala sa Sabah.”
That’s why he is not willing to help.
Gosh. Seems like he should also seek psychiatric help.
#10 & 11
Marahil ganyan ang uri ng payo na pinakikinggan ni AbNoy ngayon.
Di ko alam kung na-gets ko nga.
– na napahamak at namatay yung 3 dahil sa kanya?
– na pinaghinalaan niya si Kiram ang bumaril sa mga escort niya?
– na sina Gringo at Enrile ang may kagagawan ng problema ngayon sa Brunei?
– na nakokonsensya siya sa kapalpakan niya kaya emosyonal siya?
– na hindi niya talaga alam ang puno’t dulo ng Sabah claim natin?
– o wala nang masabi kaya nag-adlib na lang ng walang saysay?
-ano ba talaga, ate?
Maybe it was his way of saying, “Hindi ako duwag; traumatized lang (belat).”
Whatever being said by any party to the Sabah issue, tha fact is Claimant Datu Kiram sent Armed followers in a Sovereign land with intent to “Fight until Death to pursue Hos Claim”… He was given ample warnings by the Malaysians authorities to lay down their arms and surrender unconditionally the same with the Leader of the Country of their Citizenship they defied the Orders .. Both leaders have to take Drastic action. Malaysia has to protect its sovereignty and the Philippines has to enforce its own laws. And many of its law been VIOLATED by Datu Kiram and his ROYAL army. Every individual is Equal before and under the law. Datu or street vendor. It is guaranteed in the Bills of Rights.
Sawa na ba kayo sa “one-sided” arguments ng mga Pinoy pabor o kontra sa pagmamay-ari natin ng Sabah?
Pakinggan natin si Dr. Jeff Kitingan – STAR Sabah Chief.
Ah, so ok lang ang carpet bombing? Ok lang din ang magkaroon ng collateral damage na civilian Tausug (card-carrying man o hindi) dahil — ayon sa pagrarason ni AbNoy — mga Kiram naman ang may kasalanan nitong lahat? Ok na rin siguro ang police/military abuses gaya ng alleged summary executions ng RSA o mga posibleng sympthizers nito na naisiwalat ni Idjirani, tutal ‘terorista’ naman sila? Ah… so much for the Bill of Rights.
#20
“It is also not correct to state that 2/3 of the population agreed when only 1/3 agreed unconditionally.”
Unconditionally because at that time, there was as yet no Malaysia and no Malaysian Constitution to speak of.
In short, the so-called referendum was a sham. So much for that self-determination yarn.
So LCSiao, tama pala ang hinala mo that the Self-determination “referendum” is a fake.
Yung Commission on Enquiry na pinangunahan ni Lord Cameron Cobbold at yung Lansdowne Committee ni Lord Lansdowne at counterpart niyang si Deputy PM Tun Abdul Razak ay hinintay pareho ang kanilang mga report para Sa tinatawag na final draft ng Malaysia Agreement. The report were then submitted confidentially. In the press, Malayan Officials concluded that one third fully supported the idea, one third were in favour provided that safeguards were included, and the remaining one third were divided between those who would prefer North Borneo and Sarawak to gain independence prior to the merger and those who rejected the merger outright. The Commission’s view was – firm support for a federated Malaysia. Hahaha. Tapos eto nga sabi ni Dr. Jeff less than 1% lang talaga.
Kung yung State of Kelantan sinasabi mismo na yung consent ng bawat State ay hindi nakuha ng Federation na itatatag. Yun daw Malaysia Act and Malaysia Agreement in effect nullified the Federation. Sabi daw kasi sa 1957 Federation of Malaya Agreement explicit na anumang pagbabago kailangan merong consent ng citizens of the State e hindi naman sila nakonsulta kaya peke ng yung results self-determination.
So yung Manila Accord pinirmahan nung Aug 5 1963 between Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines. These agreements agreed to abide by the wishes of the people of North Borneo and Sarawak within the context of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 1541 (XV), Principle 9 of the Annex,[22][23] taking into account referendum in North Borneo and Sarawak that would be free and without coercion kaso nga fake yung “confidential survey” ni Cobbold kaya null and void yung Malaysia Act in the first place.
Actually kasama sana sa Malaysia ang Brunei pero tuso yung Sultan kaya hindi sila nauto ng British kaya naman pinakamayaman sila sa SE Asia ngayon dahil isang araw bago magpirmahan, umatras yung sultan ng Brunei sa London.
Bago yung Federation may kanya-kanyang agreement muna. May 20-point Agreement sa (N. Borneo) Sabah at 18-pt naman sa Sarawak.
Dito sa 20-point na ito ng N Borneo mapapanpsin na ang kulturang Sabahan ay mas hawig sa Pilipinas kesa sa Malaya.
Una yung pagbawal ng State religion. Oo maraming Muslim sa N Borneo at Islam ang National Religion ng Malaysia, pero alam nating maging sa Muslim Mindanao majority ay Kristiyano pa rin.
Pangalawa, kahit pa Malay ang national Language ng Federation, English should be an official language of North Borneo for all purposes, State or Federal, without limitation of time. Yan ang pinagkasunduan.
Yung sa citizenship, ipinaglaban ng N Borneo na walang restriction sa citizenship ng mga ipapanganak. Dahil na rin siguro ang mga residente ng N Borneo ay hindi maayos ang mga papeles, typical sa mga muslim sa Mindanao.
Marami pa sa 20-pts na yan ang halaw sa typical na nakasayan ng mga subjects ng Sultanate ng Sulu pero yung iba ay heavily biased in favor of Malays in Malaya. Halimbawa ay yung constitution ng N Borneo, wala nga silang constitution, hindi naman applicable sa kanila yung existing Malay consti.
Isa pa, yung hindi pwedeng maging head ng Federation ang taga-Borneo, aba baket?
Walang rin silang Right of Secession. Bakit ganun e yung Singapore nag-secede after lang ng ilang taon?
Mahabang istorya pero sa ngayon yan pa lang ang nahukay ko sa baul ng memorya ko kasama konting basa. Pag may naalala akong bago ay dagdagan ko na lang.
Hehehe. Yung mga rason na kesyo nagdala ng armas, ekek, wala na diyan ang usapan. Yan ang level na gustong i-maintain ni Noynoy. Ang usapan dito prinsipyo na tapos na yung elementary who and what.
Taga-Sabah na mismo itong nagsasasbi, “The Sabah claim, whether valid or not, must be resolved once and for all by bringing all the relevant parties to the table within the ambit of Britain and the United Nations and find a peaceful solution.”
Di pa rin sila maka-move on sa kung anong kaso isasasmpa ni De Lima. LOL.
Simula pa noong makumbinse ang Sultan of Sulu na ipaupa ang North Borneo sa ilang puti, hanggang sa naisalin ito sa isang pribadong korporasyon, hanggang sa tuluyan itong inangkin ng Britanya, hanggang sa ibinigay niya ito sa kanyang puppet Malayans bilang regalo sa pamamagitan ng kanilang False Asia machinations (na sinusugan ng UN na alam naman natin kung sino ang may hawak), obvious na obvious na simula noon hanggang ngayon, paulit-ulit na tayong kinakana ng mga hinayupak na puting yan.
#23
“Walang rin silang Right of Secession. Bakit ganun e yung Singapore nag-secede after lang ng ilang taon?”
Siyempre. Ayaw yun ng Peninsular Malays dahil ang tingin nila sa Sabah at Sarawak ay mga perpetual gatasan.
Btw, ang alam ko ay in-expel ni PM Rahman ang S’pore mula sa pederasyon dahil ayaw ni Lee Kuan Yew ipatupad sa kanyang estado ang affirmative action policy ng Malaya (INSTITUTED BY THOSE FRIGGIN BRITS), bukod pa sa kanyang rising popularity sa Malay peninsula at sa increased proportion ng Chinese population (40%) sa kabuuang Malaysia.
Ay, yung expulsion pala ng S’pore ay isa ring karagdagang argumento kung ba’t null and void ang Malaysia Act.
Ang Malaysia kasi = Malaya + Singapore + Sarawak + Sabah. Mawala lang ang isa diyan ay dapat wala nang Malaysia.
#23
“Dito sa 20-point na ito ng N Borneo mapapanpsin na ang kulturang Sabahan ay mas hawig sa Pilipinas kesa sa Malaya.
Una yung pagbawal ng State religion. Oo maraming Muslim sa N Borneo at Islam ang National Religion ng Malaysia…”
In fact, nung 1960s majority Christian ang N Borneo. Nagpatupad lang ang KL ng state-sponsored Islamization kaya nabago ang religious make-up ng Sabah.
Tsaka ang pinagtataka ko pa, bakit paulit-ulit na ginagamit ang katagang, “mga native Sabahans,” sa so-called self-determination arguments kung ang totoo nama’y native Sabahans din ang mga Badjao at Tausug kasama ng mga Kadazan-Dusun (ang grupong kinikilalang Bumiputra ng Peninsular Malays). Tsaka di hamak namang mas marami doon ang mga Pinoy ethnic groups (Tausug, Badjao, etc.), kahit na di pa isama ang mga bagong salta galing Pinas — dokumentado man o hindi.
“Btw, ang alam ko ay in-expel ni PM Rahman ang S’pore mula sa pederasyon”
Honga, ibig kong sabihin di puwedeng kumalas pero pwedeng sipain. Ang argumento, asan diyan ang self-determination?
Meron din palang mga clowns sa Malaysia. Di lang dito.
Kakabagan ako sa mga punyetang ‘to.
Thanks, Tongue for #20.
Kakabagan ako sa #17 mo. LOL
Same for #30. LOL
Yung away ng 87, Gringo versus Biazon lang di ba? Di ba’t ang Operasyon ni Gringo ay “God Save The Queen” (Cory)? Bakit pati ako binabaril noon?
Ngayon, away ng Sultan at Malaysia. Baka mabaril na naman ang mga bata ko.
Puwede bang barilan na lang sa xbox? Bakit tototohanin pa? Online na lang tayo. I challenge you all.
There is no truth to the rumor that Kris Aquino wrote the speech.
Naloko na. Sumali na si Kris Aquino sa usapang Sabah:
Kris Aquino says end to Sabah row must come with respect for due process, PH’s ‘sovereign rights’
http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/kris-aquino-says-end-to-sabah-row-must-come-with-respect-for-due-process-phs-sovereign-rights/
#12. unang liham ay pinadala sa OPAPP
Bakit si DFA Sec del Rosario ang nag- I em sori? Naku ang gulo nila!
#20. tongue, clear na clear yan! Thanks.
Nagkakakaluko na, andyan na si Kris! hahaha
Sumali na din si FVR. Bwahaha
What the Official Gazette says:
Footnote to the “Interpretation of the Moro Language of Mindanao Translation of the Previous Communications in Arabic Transcript of the Contract Which His Eminence, the Sultan of Jolo Executed with the Baron de Overbeck.”
http://www.gov.ph/1878/07/16/philippine-claim-to-north-borneo-vol-i-interpretation-of-the-moro-language-of-mindanao-translation-of-the-previous-communications-in-arabic-transcript-of-the-contract-which-his-eminence-the-sultan/
“1878 Grant of Lease by the Sultan of Sulu to Britain: Profession Conklin Translation vis a vis Maxwell and Gibson Translation”
http://www.gov.ph/1968/12/01/1878-grant-of-lease-by-the-sultan-of-sulu-to-britain-profession-conklin-translation-vis-a-vis-maxwell-and-gibson-translation/
Please note that there is a note near the bottom of the said web page that says:
Ang #39 itapat sa news item na ito…
STANDOFF pa rin!
Phil Robertson, Deputy Director, Asia Division, Human Rights Watch:
“The situation on the ground in the conflict zone in Sabah is still quite murky and the government of Malaysia should provide clear and accurate information on what has occurred.
“”At this point, it’s critical that the Malaysian authorities ensure the protection of all civilians in the area, and allow humanitarian access for the provision of emergency assistance to those affected by the violence. We’re concerned about the Malaysian government’s use of the Security Offenses Special Measures Act (SOSMA) to detain reportedly more than 50 individuals, and call on the government to either charge them with a recognizable criminal offense or release them.
All parties to the conflict should heed the call of UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon to ‘act in full respect of international human rights norms and standards’.”
This is a repeat of Alfredo G. Parpan, S.J.’s look to the future, which I already cited before. But this time with more copy-pastings…
http://ojs.philippinestudies.net/index.php/ps/article/download/1004/990
“Dito sa 20-point na ito ng N Borneo mapapanpsin na ang kulturang Sabahan ay mas hawig sa Pilipinas kesa sa Malaya.
tongue, ikalawang tao na ikaw na kinaringgan ko nito, ang isa ay history professor, malapit ng matapos ang libro na may chapter tungkol dito kasama na mga salita na magkakatulad.
Scenario…
Malaysia: “Mayroon nang 1963 referendum. Kinilala ng ICJ ‘yun.”
Pilipinas: “Peke ‘yun. Bagong referendum ang kailangan.”
…STANDOFF pa rin!
—–
Further scenario…
Malaysia: “Mayroon nang 1963 referendum. Kinilala ng ICJ ‘yun.”
Pilipinas: “Peke ‘yun. Bagong referendum ang kailangan.”
ICJ: “Hmm…teka…teka…hmm…”
…Abangan…
#17. lol….lol…lol….
Ceasefire muna ako dito sa Sabah…
Kay Lanto naman…
“When it rains, it pours…”
May kaunting time pa ako para mag-poste dito…
@Mel,
Sino ba talaga ang, “MALI SIYA“?
Eh, lahat UNILATERAL naman!
Ito pa…
STANDOFF!
IMPASSE!
Oo, unilateral nga ang mga posisyon. Pero sino ba dapat ang kampihan ko na alam kong tama. Ang PILIPINAS, siyempre!
Sapagka’t alam kong MALI SIYA…
Now for the Future Scenario. There were contentions that the Federation of Malaysia is taking unproportionately advantage of Sabah and Sabahans than its giving back and these is an Internal Matter within the Confederation to sort out Ing themselves. The ideal scenario is each Member State or territory or Province should be autonomous in many aspects if its Governance, developing its own resources and its own policies and programs of Government within its border as defined in power sharing and responsibilities in a Confederation. Not too sure if one or any of the Member state is allowed to get out by peaceful means and becomes a Independent state when it felt it is. Capable for its own Protection like the City State of Singapore. Some Confederation (not the USA) allows its members to opt out. ( the Soviets, Yoguslavia w a little help from NATO. The point here is SABAH would NOT Dare cuz there will be a few Crocs waiting to swallow her if ever it wanted out without the protection of a Strong federation.
^ Politics din iyan. The strength of the Malaysian Federation will only be determined by how tight the BN coalition holds in the near-to-medium term. At its height, with Mahathir at the helm, UMNO was able to decimate local Sabahan political parties. But with rising discontent from Sabahans esp on the economic front, can it still do that for long?
@ 52 it really depends on the charter of the union or Confederation.. For example in the US joining the Union , the State is committed to be with the Indivisible Union and can only get out by Force (the confederate States secessionist Civil war) In Canada there is a Process of Opting out Peacefully. Quebec attempted twice, the first Time in the 70s it was not very Close for the separatists but was very closed the second time all by Referendum. now the Government in Quebec is a Separitist Parti Quebecois but there will be no attempt because it is in Minority and surveys after surveys the Younger Generation and the diversified population of Quebec no longer wanted out especially when it was granted the Distinction of a Nation within a Nation in recognition of its French Majority cultures and traditions and language. A distinct society among its equal. Will Alberta wanted out because of its oil wealth? People in Alberta feel more of being Canadians than Albertans and are enjoying their wealth and sharing it with their less wealthy provinces in the Dominion by Federal downloads. That is how Federalism works (the idea here is that people from other part of the Federal States would not pack their Bags and Migrate altogether to the wealthy state or province. Malaysia will be learning Fast.
^ That is, if they’re treated as equals–which isn’t the case for Sabah and Sarawak. I think both these states are learning fast as well.
The point here is SABAH would NOT Dare cuz there will be a few Crocs waiting to swallow her if ever it wanted out without the protection of a Strong federation. – vic
That is your opinion. Unfortunately that opinion is no longer shared by a large majority of Sabahans. The main objection? Sabah has for so long been the milking cow of Putrajaya & KL They provide wealth to the Federation by their natural resources in exchange for security. Read my Comment #20 above. The recent intrusion and the seeming failure of the defense forces to detect such common breaches of border are finally moving Sabahans to put their trust on the opposition party. The growing discontent in Sabah, at least from what I read from the Sabah intelligentsia, is fueled by exactly that – they feel neglected in the area of defense and they conclude that the Suluks including the armed ones are free to roam Sabah because they deliver the flying votes in elections to the ruling party. Whether this sentiment is widespread or not will be seen in the outcome of the elections in June. If Najib will not suspend it.
galing ni sultan magsimula ng gulo di pala kayang tapusin, tama ang malaysia na di pumayag sa ceasefire, sinimulan nyo tatapusin ko hehehe
Tongue @ 55 and with this Standoff exactly what I said, the KL Federal Govt. will learn Fast that Confederation wills work best if each member state will be give more freedom to enjoy their resources while sharing them with the rest of the member States..22 in Royalties and taxes. Let us give the Provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan for example. These two provinces now are known to have the Potential wealth in oil and other resources and with less population are relatively higher per capita. They are paying more in Federal taxes too that are used to subsidized the poorer provinces. And also the Feds share some of Royalties with their Natural resources. But before they became the HAVES Provinces They were supported by Ontario and BC who were industrialized before them.. From these Models Malaysia will learn how Confederation will work many of its member states will pack up and leave. Just like Quebec who felt being snubbed but now seems happy after getting multi billions downloads from the Feds…I believe Malaysia modeled their system to their Colonizer, but was not quite able to Improve on it. That is what we Did, Improved on the British System that was reeked with INEQUITY And Discrimination. And Royalties and Princesses yet we soo admired the Pageantry. By the Way Any Canadian who will Accept peerage from her Queen like Lordship must RENOUNCED his Citizenship before he can kneel before HER Majesty and be Knighted. …that no one will be more equal than the other and there will be only one Class of Citizenship. Matter how one nose looks like
^ Not in Malaysia (truly-ly Asia) where there’s a constitutionally-sanctioned distinction between Bumiputras and non-Bumiputras.
“………..“Inaangkin nila ang Sabah, saan ba nagmula ’yung problema na hindi na sa kanila? Hindi ba galing sa ninuno nila na nagbigay nung lease o nung awtoridad sa British para mamahala sa Sabah….”
wala sigurong social studies noong nag-aaral siya sa elementarya o kaya ay philippine history noong high school na siya.
teka, hindi kaya uso na nu’n ang play station nah hanggang ngayon ay laruan niya kaya hindi niya alam ang kasaysayan ng pilipinas?
ano siya, presidenteng NAGTATANGATANGAHAN?
walang nag-uudyok kay penoy na suportahan ang armadong pakikibaka ng mga kiram upang maibalik ang sabah.
ang hindi niya maliwanagan ay bilang pangulo, HIKAYATIN niyang umupo sila at pag-usapan nang maayos at pag-aralan ang mga tamang hakbang kasabay nang pagpiprisinta ng mga ebidensiya na MERONG legal at historical na karapatan ang mga kiram na mapasauli sa kanilang pagmamay-ari o pamamahala ang sabah na sa katunaya’y bahagi ng sultanate of sulu na sakop ng bansang pilipinas.
kahit naman siguro sinong tao ang pipilitin mong pauwiin at babantaang ikukulong ay magmamatigas at susuwayin ang utos!
kunsabagay, wala tayong magagawa dahil NAUTO tayo sa kanyang pagsasabi noon na tayo ang kanyang BOSS!
Readout of the Secretary-General’s meeting with H.E. Mr. Hussein Haniff, Permanent Representative of Malaysia to the United Nations
New York, 8 March 2013
The Secretary-General met today with H.E. Mr. Hussein Haniff, Permanent Representative of Malaysia to the United Nations. They discussed the recent developments in Sabah, Malaysia. The Secretary-General noted the efforts that were made by the Governments of Malaysia and Philippines to find a peaceful resolution to the situation. He reiterated his hope that the situation will be resolved as soon as possible, and that efforts will continue to be made to ensure respect for human rights and to avoid further loss of life.
^ Di naman siya pinakikinggan eh…
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/67981/filipino-refugees-describe-deadly-crackdown-in-sabah
nagpapakita na ng tunay na kulay ang malaysian forces!
para silang mga asong ulol na kahit mga walang kalaban labang babae at mga bata ay walang awang binabaril habang ginagalugad ang bawat sulok sa pinaghihinalaan nilang pinamumugaran ng mga kiram.
hindi ba’t patunay ito na sila ang desperado upang huwag magkaroon ng usapang pangkapayapaan at resolbahin ang claim ng mga kiram?
kahit mga inosenteng pinoy ay kanilang inaaresto at kinukulong.
asal tao pa ba ang mga malaysian security forces?
nagpapakita na ng tunay na kulay ang malaysian forces! -Magno
Tolerated and boosted by Pnoy’s stand kasi.
Napanood ko kagabi Yung programa ni Boy Abunda “The Bottomline” at ang guest niya si Princess Jacel Kiram. The young lady was brilliant and eloquent. The panel which included Prof. Harry Roque, political analyst and UP Prof. Carlos, Former Senator Aminah Rasul (who is also an heir to the Suktanate) among others, were stunned by their impreesion of the intelligent and articulate princess, Rasul admitted Jacel is the perfect apokesperson for the Sultanate. Everybody, including Boy, agreed.
Sa simula maasim ang mga tanong ni Boy, alam naman natin na close sila ng kapatid ng presidente, in the end Boy was cheering in their corner.
If you care to watch,(and I recommend you do) here it is: http://www.iwantv.com.ph/TV/Video/The-Bottomline-/56/
saan ba ang daan patungo sa ibang pinto?
nakulong na ako, ah.
tabang naman di’ay!