Kaya lang, kung pipirma siya ng waiver para sa kanyang bank deposits, kailangan din gawin ng lahat na miyembro ng kanyang cabinet.
Ang hiningi nga ni Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano , lahat: COA, Comelec, BIR, Customs, judges, governors, mayors, barangay captains, congressmen, senators.
Diyan magkaka-problema. Ay kung may miyembro siya ng cabinet na may hindi mapaliwanag na kayamanan? Di magkaproblema pa siya.
Kaya sinabi niya na hindi ngayon ang tamang panahon para ipatupad niya ang kanyang pangako noong kampanya na mapirma siya ng waiver o pahintulot para makita ng iba ang laman ng kanyang mga bank accounts.
Kailangan mabigyan niya ang kanyang mga opsiyal ng tamang panahon para ayusin ang kanilang kayamanan.
Pero despalinghado ang pagpaliwanag ni Presidential deputy spokesman Abigail Valte.
Sabi ni Valte, “Balikan natin ang konteksto nitong usapan. Yung akusado, si Corona, ang nanghamon sa bawa’t Tom, Dick at Harry sa mga gustong i-kol ang kanyang hamon. Makatarungan ba na ilagay ang Presidente, na hindi naman na-akusa sa pagnanakaw, hindi na-akusa sa pangsinungaling, sa parehong kategoriya sa taong katatanggal lang sa puwesto?”
Hindi siya nililinya kay Corona. Ito ay tungkol sa ipinangako niya nang siya ay nagkakaampanya. Inaasahan ng taumbayan na gawin ni PNoy ang kanyang bukambibig na “Transparency” at “Accountability.”
Transparency ay nakikita ng taumbayan. Walang tinatago.
Accountability ay panagutan niya ang kanyang mga desisyun.
Iyan ang klase ng pamahalaan ang ipinangako niya noong sinusuyo niya ang boto ng sambayanang Pilipino. Hindi pa akusado si Corona noon. Walang paki-alam dito si Corona.
Sinabi niya ito noong Febrero 23, 2010 sa Hotel Intercontinental sa Makati . Kasama sila ng dalawa pang kandidato sa pagkapresident na si Jamby Madrigal at JC de los Reyes.Ang okasyun ay “ Second Integrity and Human Rights Conference.”
Kaya may isang tagahanga si Aquino na ngayon ay dismayado. Sabi ni Wally Reyes sa kanyang Facebook account: “Di ba ganito ang style ng mga trapo, pangako na napapako, so anong pagkakaiba ngayon? Akala ko ba, tayo ang mga bosses, eh bakit ayaw tayong pakingan at kung ano anong kabalbalan ang reasons na binibigay para huwag lang sundin ang election promise? Ano na ngayon ang sasabihin ko doon sa mga kinumbinse namin dito sa California na iboto si PNOY dahil naiiba siya sa ibang politico? Pati tuloy kami nag-kampanya sa kanya, nagmumukhang sinungaling doon sa mga kinumbinse namin!”
Problema talaga ngayon yan. Noong nagbobotohan sa impeachment trial, lahat nagsabi na ang desisyun na mag-convict kay Corona ay nag-taas ng antas ng public service. Sabi nga ni Sen. Chiz Escudero tungkol sa tamang pagdeklara ng Statement of Assets, Liabilities and Networth: “Ibig sabihin nito, mula ngayon, pwedeng nang tanggalin sa pwesto ang punong mahistrado pati na rin ang pangulo at ikalawang pangulo at iba pang impeachable officers kapag meron silang di dineklara sa kanilang SALN.”
At dapat iisa ang standard. Hindi naman pwede na mataas ang antas kapag kalaban ng administrasyon at kapag kaalyado, todo-pasa na lang. Kaya hiniling ni Cayetano na utusan ni Pangulo Aquino ang miyembro ng kanyang cabinet na magsign ng waiver. Kung ayaw nila, magresign sila.
Hindi gagawin ni PNoy yan.
Hindi ko gusto na i-subject sa ganitong sitwasyon ang pangulo ng bansa maliban kung sya ay kinasuhan ng impeachment o ill-gotten wealth habang nagsisilbi ng kanyang termino. PERO kung ito ay kanyang ipinangako sa madlang pinoy, DAPAT nya itong tuparin ng walang kondisyon.
Halungkatin na ang mha bangko ng mag-asawang Arroyo, isama na rin ang anak na Mikey.
Man up kuya Noy, promise mo pala yan! Be a role model to your cabinet members and KKK.
Kung nagkataong pumirma lahat, wala o kakaunti nalang matitirang myemro ng kanyang gabinete. 😛
Sabi siguro ngayon ni Corona, “Oy, balik sayo.” 😛
I have faith Aquino will provide something similar or better or correct the situation (maybe correct the SALN form including an authorization to open back account) at the right time.
I agree with JPE, drama lang tong ginawa about that waiver.
I for one won’t sign a waiver that was crafted by Corona.
Lets keep things in perspective.
Aquino never hid his SALN. He made it available. Corona and the SC fought tooth and nail to prevent it from being available. Pahirapan natin nakuha yung SALN (thanks to Drilon we got it). Dun na nagumpisa yung “research.”
Realistically, I think Ellen heading is correct. Aquino does not want to step on too many toes just yet.
Paliwanag ni Pres. Aquino kung bakit nag-aalanganin siya gumawa ng basta-basta na lang na waiver
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/260256/news/nation/pnoy-says-he-will-not-sign-waiver-to-open-bank-accounts
On Friday, Aquino expressed apprehension on making public his bank account number saying it would allow unscrupulous individuals to access his account without his consent.
“’Pag nagwi-withdraw ka, mahigpit. ‘Pag nagde-deposit, hindi kasing higpit. Sa araw-araw na ginawa ng Diyos, ‘pag nilagay ko ‘yung aking account number, may nag-deposito diyan, magpapaliwanag pa ako na hindi ko alam pumasok.”
“So sasarado ko ‘yung account na ‘yon para maprotektahan ang sarili ko. Magbubukas ng panibago, tatanungin na naman niyo ‘yung bagong numero. Babalik na naman tayo sa sitwasyon na ilalagay ko sa baul sa bahay kung ano man ang ari-arian ko.”
Kung under investigation ang isang opisyal dapat lang magbigay siya ng bank waiver sa Ombudsman ng sa ganoon pwedeng makita ang balance ng accounts niya at hindi lang yun mga transaction balances.
Pero kung wala namang imbestigasyon di naman siguro dapat pilitin ang opisyal na buksan ang bank accounts niya para mapagpyestahan lang ng mga usisero ay may masamang asal.
A promise is a promise and however one dissects it, it’s still a promise.
The palusot of Noynoy and his supporters that he can just ignore or refuse to sign a waiver is way way off mark.
This is not a case whether one is being impeached or being investigated. It’s all about being transparent and a promise during the campaign for the presidency. Nobody asked him or forced him to make that promise. He did it in his own time and in his own words.
The time of reckoning is now even if it’s a little late to walk the talk, otherwise it will just appear as a cheap campaign gimmick just like the “kung walang corrupt, walang mahirap” to win the votes of the electorate.
Nung una, gusto ko din pumirma si PNoy ng waiver.
Kaso, oo nga naman, paano kung mag-deposit yang mga tao ni Gloria sa bank accounts ng mga opisyal ng Gabinete para ma-implicate sila sa isang iskandalo, di ba?
Maayos naman ang justification ni PNoy kung bakit ayaw niya mag-issue ng waiver sa kanyang bank accounts.
That means that he didn’t see these implications when he made that campaign promise.
In the same way that he sees the disadvantages of that to himself, he should not also impose that on others, even to his enemies.
Iniisip ko lang, ilan kaya ang kanyang campaign promise na natauhan na siya ngayon na hindi pala maganda kapag kanyang gagawin?
I would like the SALN to be readily available when needed but not floated around. In our current system where almost everything is leaked out to the media, these SALN information may be used as another propaganda. There are those who have nothing else to do except to character assassinate.
J, I wondered too if that was the case in Corona’s multiple bank deposits. These deposits may not be his but those of the pandak’s cronies’.
A provision in the SALN that stipulates that the Ombudsman and the other goverment agencies are given the power to investigate any perceived crook is good enough for me.
Kaya naging malaking issue and tungkol dyan sa SALN of Corona because he was dragging his feet to divulge it. This hesitance caused all the speculation that he was hiding something and indeed, he was! If he voluntarily submitted to the court his SALN at the start of the impeachment trial then the verdict would have been handed down quicker and maybe the impeachment may have been kinder to him as well. It was his hesitance, arrogance and his drama that had him convicted.
If anything, I would like all these public servants to issue a waiver on the release of their SALNs when they are suspected of any illegal activity. Kung wala naman silang ginagawa, they should not be bothered at all. Kung biglang ala-Lapid ang dating, yun pa. When mansions and hi-rise condos are acquired left and right and multiple bank accounts are opened in their names, then a SALN should be readily available and a waiver for the appropriate agencies to probe into the person’s assets should also be available. I do not like all these waivers and SALNs floating around and fall into the wrong hands.
Dapat lang huwag n’yang gawin. Siya ay immune sa batas. Ang mga nasa ibaba niya ay hindi.
No need to harass, no need to bribe…deposit na lang.
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Maibaling naman kay Corona.
Nandamay lang ‘yan. Kung hindi siya lumusot sa APPEAL TO EMOTION n’ya para manalo, sa TU QUOQUE naman n’ya dinale ang kalaban n’ya thinking…
“Natalo man ako ngayon, yayariin ko rin kayong lahat kasama ko!”
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Sabi ng isa sa mambabasa dito sa Ellenville na “less than petty crimes” daw ang pagkakatanggal kay Corona (impeachment as administrative case in removing public officers).
Puwes, kasuhan ng impeachment si P.Noy ng “betrayal of public trust” due to breach of campaign promise.
Oops, hindi pa nga pala siya presidente noong time na nag-promise siya.
Sorry, waiver-waiver lang kasi ‘yan, ‘ika nga ni Ted (Failon).
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Patas-patas daw sabi ni Chiz (Escudero). O, sige, bantayan n’yo kung maco-confirm ang appointment ni Philippine ambassador to Syria Nestor Padalhin.
Hindi niya dineklara ang property sa Seattle, Washington dahil hinuhulugan pa daw ito mula 1992. Hindi pa daw ganap ang pagmamay-ari n’ya dito.
Ganyan din naman ang palusot noon ni Montemayor sa kaniyang mga luxury vehicles. Tinanggal sa puwesto si Montemayor dahil nagsinungaling sa Sworn Statement of Assets and Liabilities (SSAL).
Ito pang 30 years na nasa government service na si Padalhin ay patatawarin n’yong mga nagmamagaling na senador kayo?
Palibhasa pa-pogi lang kayo sa mga susunod na eleksiyon…kayo, Chiz at Alan Peter (Cayetano). Gusto n’yo pang higitan (o idiskarel?) ang crusade ni P.Noy!
@parasabayan. Exactly. The problem was the SALN, not the waiver.
The prosecution did not immediately ask for Corona’s access to his bank accounts (ie, the “waiver”), the prosecution built their case (a failure if you ask me because the SALN was only available during the court trial already) and when the Defense called their bluff and said, sige nga tignan natin ano hawak nyo, Ombudswoman blew the door when the AMLC report, a log of transactions that only hit the $10k or Php500k barrier was a basis for her asking Corona to explain.
The request for Corona to open his bank account became the contention only at that point. Remember, the prosecution already rest their case without a waiver.
Yan yung nangyari.
Remember, reverse engineering was the only approach the prosecution had to validate that Corona was not truthful. They got evidence of the goods (“tsismis” about Corona’s bank account) first before the documentation (SALN). Yan yung kinocomplain ng karamihan sa abogado na no case since no material evidence.
People should remember what Corona said (paraphrasing): I will bring everybody down with me.
Let me remind people not to trust a slime like Corona who was willing to risk his children and apos in the problem he got himself into.
For any government official, they should think twice before signing something that Corona concocted.
The correct step is for the SALN to be available. The next step is for congress to call the Ombudsman and ask, ok so how can we help to make sure no other Corona can hide the documentation and the goods again.
Kung sinabi ni Ombudsman kailangan nyang access sa bank accounts to do her job, then so be it.
But until such time, people should stop being fooled by that kicked out government official propaganda.
Tumpak!
Ganyan naman talaga ang layunin ng SALN…administrative case on top of a criminal or civil case.
Gaya nang kay Delsa Flores, may kaso muna siyang katiwalian. Dahil sa shortcut na pinapayagan na sa mga Korte, may administrative case na rin na napapaloob sa unang kaso.
Siyempre, binibisita ang Personal Data Sheet at SALN…presto! May paglabag din si Delsa sa batas ng SALN.
Ganoon din ang kaso nila Montemayor, Doblada, etc.
Kay Corona, impeachment na parang administrative case ang nangyari. To follow na lang ang criminal at forfeiture cases. Ito’y dahil dapat matanggal muna sa trono ang diyos ng P. Faura.
MANILA, June 1, 2012— For the government to be credible in its campaign for transparency, it should be led by no less than President Benigno Aquino III, an official of the Catholic Church’s Social Action arm said.
Fr. Edu Gariguez, executive secretary of the CBCP’s National Secretariat for Social Action – Justice and Peace (Nassa), said leading by example is one effective way to promote integrity in the government.
“He is strongly pushing transparency but he doesn’t want to sign a waiver of his bank accounts and other assets,” Gariguez said over Manila archdiocese-run Radyo Veritas.
He said that if the President cannot walk the talk in terms of transparency and accountability, then his campaign to root out corruption in the government is only ‘ningas kugon’ kind.
http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node%2F19653
Sabi pa ni pa ni comrade Pnoy kaya daw ayaw nyang mag sign ng waiver ay dahil baka mayroon daw biglang magdeposito sa account nya ng malaking halaga at palabasin na pera nya yon…..HHHAHAHAAAHHA
Yon pala ang naiisip nyang PALUSOT kapag hinalungkat na ang account nya.
Sa susunod na eleksyon, ang mga taong bayan na hindi dilaw ang pag-iisip ay iboboto lamang ang kandidato kapag nag sign na sila ng waiver. Kapag hindi sila nag sign, yong mga dilaw lang ang boboto sa kanila at pcos smartmatic.
Wala na si ex-thief magistrate at ang kamandag niya. Pnoy dapat ding maglinis ng kalat sa paligid niya hindi lang sa usapin ng SALN. Katulad ng pananatili sa pwesto ni boy ak47 at collector ng pirated dvd & the like.
Presidential candidate Aquino (Feb. 1, 2010)
Senators Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III and Ma. Ana Consuelo ‘Jamby’ Madrigal and Olongapo city councilor JC De Los Reyes pledged Tuesday to waive their rights under the Bank Secrecy Law to open their accounts to the public if elected president.
Appearing at the Second Integrity and Human Rights Conference at Hotel Intercontinental Manila, Aquino said he would do so to prove his sincerity in fighting corruption.
Aquino’s deputy spokesman Valte (June 1, 2012):
Valte said, however, that Mr. Aquino wouldn’t sign any such waiver at this time.
“Let’s go back to the context,” Valte said. “It was the accused [Corona] who issued the challenge to every Tom, Dick and Harry who was willing to take on his dare. Is it fair to put the President, who has not been accused of graft, who has not been accused of dishonesty, in the same category as the man who was just removed from his post?”
News item June 1, 2012:
On Friday, President Aquino insisted that he had fulfilled his campaign promise when he signed his SALN that also included the waiver giving the Ombudsman the authority to look into the extent of his wealth.
Aquino’s spokesman Lacierda:
“The mandatory waiver in the SALN is more expansive and more comprehensive than the waiver in the secrecy of bank deposits.”
“It involves the waiver of not only your cash deposits, it also includes the waiver (for the Ombudsman to look into) your financial interests, business interests, assets, not only in terms of cash but also in terms of properties,” he said.
Dapat lang siguro for the president and his spokespersons to get together and decide on what justification to use. Pareho sila dapat justification.
Nakikisawsaw na naman ang CBCP. Itong mga ito have a double standard. Noon bang huling huli si pandak na nandaya, did they lift a finger? Tumigil na nga kayong mga “brown bag” beneficiaries and tiga hingi ng mga sasakyan. The church does not have any transparency whatsoever. Yung magbibigay sa kanila ng malaking donation ang mabango. This is true not just to the Ingelia ni Cristo but in all churches.
Ang prinsipyo, walang kinikilingan. Kung tama sa isa, tama sa lahat. Kung mali sa isa, mali sa lahat. Takot lang yung iba diyan na mabuking na yung kanilang ini-idolo ganun din lang sa kinamumuhian.
Dialogue from Malacañang at the height of the impeachment trial: “Kung wala siyang itinatago, dapat mag-sign siya (Corona)ng waiver!”
Ayan, bumalandra na.
Even if President Aquino signed a Waiver it does not mean that the Rest will follow, Unless and Until it becomes Law..but the SALNs is already a Sworn Statement and if one can “doctored” his declared statement and would not get caught after he admitted it under oath (the Corona way) what Good is the signing of the waiver anyways??? A launder Peso or $$$ is already Cleaned (hence the term laundered) and what is needed is the Transparency in every Ministry in the Government and this is where the Access to Information Act will do more than the Spur of the Moment thought from the Desperate Strategy of the CJ that was his waterloo that is just nothing but a quick and die clamour because someone brought it in a celebrated case…a very meaningful, true to its intentions FOI will help ease up the HIDE and SEEK game that crooks play..
I would do the same thing Noynoy is doing. I would bide my time as to when I will issue a waiver. I am not going to do it just because a convicted small-brained lawyer said so. He has no right to proclaim himself as the champion and model of honesty and transparency by issuing that waiver challenge to all government employees. Anyone who does so immediately is a fool. He would just be playing into Corona’s trap.
The man is nuts. He even now has plans to do the campus circuit, even maybe teach law or lecture on law???!!!!
The man is cracking up.. getting Brendalized.. And you want to do the tango with him?
I blame Senator Cayetano. He is too talkative and loose with his thoughts sometimes. Imagine thanking and praising Corona for issuing that waiver challenge to one and all. Now Corona thinks he is really the good guy. He will now be tha white knight of transparency and accountability! Jeezzz…
If I were Noynoy, I would wait. Improve the SALN format to be more clear and transparent..and then sign that waiver for the bank accounts.
And no need to sign that waiver on the SALN because as he said, he already signed it.
Palpak naman talaga itong si Valte! Ano ba experience ng babaeng yan at tinitiwalaan na magsalita for the prez? sino ba sya, barkada ni Mislang? 🙂
Ay naku, hindi nag-iisip, porma lang ng porma gusto yatang maging artista o senador. Tsaka bakit sya ang humaharap palagi sa media. Nasaan si Lacierda, si Coloma, si Manolo? Bakit pipitsugin ang gumaganap ng sensitibong trabaho na pagharap/pagsasalita sa media? Sorry, pipitsugin pala silang lahat.
Ang sarap sanang isampal kay Corona yung waiver ni Pnoy, di ba?
So,Pnoy should just say that he didn’t know the implications of that campaign promise when he said it.
Simple lang naman aminin that he made a mistake in saying it.
Presidential candidate Aquino (Feb. 1, 2010)
“Noynoy” Aquino III and Ma. Ana Consuelo ‘Jamby’ Madrigal and Olongapo city councilor JC De Los Reyes pledged Tuesday to waive their rights under the Bank Secrecy Law to open their accounts to the public if elected president.
Appearing at the Second Integrity and Human Rights Conference at Hotel Intercontinental Manila, Aquino said he would do so to prove his sincerity in fighting corruption.
#30. Phil, Pnoy should take the cue from you. It’s just a matter of timing before announcing that he has signed the waivers for his bank accounts, no need to tie it with Corona as Valte did (was that the alibi from the top?).
Better yet, PNoy should take a cue from Professional Heckler.
No 56 of his Rumors, Fact a& Rumor, Too:
No. 56: When Noynoy Aquino “promised” in 2010 that he would sign a waiver on his bank accounts if elected president, he was misquoted.
http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/rumors-facts-humor-too/
Mas madali at epektib na rason yan, Ellen. Afterall, madaling makalimot ang pinoy, maawain at mapagpatawad pa. 🙂 Thanks for the link, nakakatawa ang RFR ni PH.
Chi, you will enjoy this all the more:
http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/impeachment-trial-awards/
nadala namn yata tayo kay thief corona.. i dont think gnawa namn nya in good faith pumirma lang sya nung case close na for everything ..then nag sakit sakitan para di ma cross examine..ithink un waiver sa saln is enough as provided by law,, then kung nakasuhan pa waiver sa bank depo..
un kay arroyo family dapat isunod sa busisi
Whether Corona brought up or not the challenge regarding the signing of waiver is beside the point. What is being pointed out is the fact that candidate PNoy did promise to sign a waiver if he won in the election. He won and now that he is the president already, he is giving excuses not to sign. He has a lot of P A L U S O T!!!
Ellen, nakakaloka talaga, hahahaha! Grabe si PH, dapat bigyan sya ng award for “making life worth living”. 🙂
Hip hip, hooray! In defeat, Corona has turned the tables around. So now he is the hero. Noynoy is the heel! Wow.
You are pissed but that’s how the cookie crumbles. Yet if he issues his own waiver, oh how easily he would grab back his moral grounds, indeed. But that’s the trouble: he can’t and you know it, for reasons you would not even dare to think.
It sure crumbles in a funny unfair sort of way, doesn’t it?
But I expect that he will, not according to Corona’s timeline but his.
If he doesn’t, within say a month or two, I am not one to hold my criticism of him. I have done so in the past.
My point is, it is unfair to make Corona the hero, and PNoy the heel..after all he has done to drag out Gloria and Corona from their thrones.
Impeach Aquino!
He still has until June 30, 2016 to sign his waiver. You can therefore, impeach him starting July 1, 2016 – when he is no longer president.
Now, if you have existing evidence that he is hiding anything, then do it today! 1.3M pieces (all gov’t employees) of waivers is all trash UNLESS a complaint with the Ombudsman is filed.
You have the goods on Jojo Ochoa? File it with the Ombudsman. You have evidence against Tupaz? File it with Carpio-Morales. You have evidence against Gloria, there is the DOJ/Ombudsman.
Ask Joker Arroyo for his waiver. And of course, Miriam. Have they signed the waiver?
How about Bongbong Marcos? 😉 xD
Sneaky huh!
PNoy summoned his entire powers as President, enlisted the BIR, SEC, LRA, BSP, AMLC etc. for help, bought the loyalty of 188 congressmen, drafted in mainstream media and survey firms, blogger communities, allied NGOs, the entire Yellow Horde, some small ladies and fairies and God knows whatever else, to bring down Corona to his knees. And for what heinous crime, let me ask? Now you needle us to file a case with the Ombudsman to make our point hehehe
No, we do not need the Ombudsman to make our point that the torchbearer of Daang Matuwid, the champion of accountability and transparency is really the High Priest of Hypocrisy.
Not to worry, hypocrisy is not a crime.
Trillanes should be first in line to sign the “waiver”, let’s see what he’s made of, as most in here claims he is dirt free.
#47. Tru blue, Trillanes already did.
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3 senators sign waivers on bank accounts
ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 06/04/2012 7:39 PM | Updated as of 06/04/2012 7:39 PM
MANILA, Philippines – Three senators have signed waivers allowing the Office of the Ombudsman to examine their bank records and check the accuracy of their statements of assets, liabilities and net worth (SALN).
Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV, Sen. Ramon Bong Revilla Jr., and Sen. Francis Escudero have all submitted their waivers following a challenge made by former Chief Justice Renato Corona in his impeachment trial.
“It is a time-honoured principle that a public office is a public trust. It is enshrined in the Constitution, the highest law of the land, and such command deserves utmost respect and must be the foremost rule in public service. Thus, public office must only be held as long as the people surrender their utmost trust to the public official. We can only maintain this public trust through transparency and accountability in our government transactions, as well as in our personal assets that we declare,” Trillanes said in a press statement.
Trillanes said he is waiving the absolute confidentiality guaranteed by laws on secrecy of bank deposits and the Foreign Currency Deposit Act.
“By signing this waiver, we respond not only to the fervent call of our people for transparency and accountability, but more importantly, we fulfill our duty to the people and the Constitution which comes along with our mandate as elected public officials,” he said.
“The signing of waiver is in response to the challenge for greater transparency and accountability of public officials by disclosing accounts and assets with confidential nature in order to better scrutinize the officials’ present and past SALNs,” he added. – report from Ryan Chua, ABS-CBN News
Ang waiver ay bumalik sa mga umuusig dahil ‘yan talaga ang nais ni Corona. “Tu quoque” (kasama ng “Appeal to Emotion” na ginamit niyang depensa). Talo na siya pero may tsansa pang manalo gawa ng pandaramay.
Subali’t ang usapin sa waiver ay hindi daw gawa ni Corona dahil campaign promise pa pala ito. Okay, kasuhan ng breach of promise (tutal “less than petty crimes” naman ang kasong ikinatalo ni Corona). Ito’y para sa mga kating-kati na maparusahan din ang pangulo natin.
Nguni’t ito na marahil ang mas mainam…sa mga makapaghihintay…
Mas maganda kung husgahan na lang ang lahat ng kandidato sa May 2013 Elections. Direct “impeachment” ‘yan!
Nasabi ko na dati…sa aking panunuligsa sa tipo ng depensa ni Corona…
Don’t spread the blame
to avoid penalty
Spread the penalty
to all blameworthy
Presko na uli ang kalalabas lang sa ospital na si Corona. Mag-iikot daw siya para magturo at ipaglaban ang Judicial Independence.
Balik-tanaw…
Nadale ni Enrile si Cuevas nang ipinalutang niya ang AUSTINIAN Theory of Law na inaral ng lahat ng abogado.
Ang batas ay may TATLONG KATANGIAN:
Ang batas ay utos. Ito’y ibinalangkas ng kapangyarihan ng soberenya. Ipinatutupad ang batas sa lahat ng nasasakupan at ang paglabag nito ay may kaparusahan.
Sundin ang batas kungdi may parusa. ‘Yan ang takot natin sa pagsuway.
Dalawang batas: FCD Law at SALN Law
Ang FCD Law ang ipinairal ni Corona upang itago ang yaman gayong puwede naman niyang ilantad ito nang walang parusa.
Walang takot niyang ginawa ito.
Sa pagtago niya ng kaniyang yaman, sinuway naman niya ang SALN Law.
Walang takot rin niyang ginawa ito.
Nakapagtataka ito sa isang masunuring mamamayan.
Kaduda-duda ito sa isang abogado.
Hindi natin maubos-isipin na nagawa ito ng isang Punong Mahistrado.
Balik tayo sa ngayon…
Ano kaya ang ituturo niya sa mga estudyante kapag nag-ikot na siya sa mga paaralan?
Maging matapang sa pagsuway sa batas kaya?
Magkaroon ng Judicial Independence para walang silipan ng mga anomalya sa hudikatura?
Sa susunod hindi na magbabangko ang mga magnanakaw. Magpapalagay na lang sila ng security vault sa mga palasyo nila at hindi na mag-dedeposit sa mga bangko.
#51
Ano ba ang sabi ni Constitutionalist lawyer, Madame Santiago?
Ayon sa kanya ang SALN law ay general law at ang Foreign Currency Deposit Act ay special law. The rules in favor of special law, according to her.
BAKLA na kasalanan ang nagawa ni CJ.
“We don’t know if what he did (not declaring his dollar accounts in his statement of assets, liabilities, and net worth) is an offense because we have two laws that contradict each other,” she explained.
“If a general law like the Ethical Conduct of Public Servants which provides that he declares all his assets contradicts a special law like the Foreign Currency Deposits Act which provides for absolute confidentiality, the law rules in favor of the special law, the senator said.”
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/33682/miriam-2013-elections-figured-in-corona-conviction
Ano pa ang sabi ni Constitutionalist lawyer, Santiago:
The defendant admitted that he did not declare his dollar accounts and certain commingled peso accounts in his SALN. Did this omission amount to an impeachable offense? No.
Under the rule of ejusdem generis, when a general word occurs after a number of specific words, the meaning of the general word should be limited to the kind or class of thing within which the specific words fall.
The Constitution provides that the impeachable offenses are: “culpable violation of the Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, other high crimes, or betrayal of public trust.”
An omission in good faith in the SALN carries a light penalty, and is even allowed to be corrected. Thus, it is not impeachable.
There is no conflict between the Constitution and the Foreign Currency Act.
The perceived conflict is so simplistic that it is seriously laughable. If there is any conflict, it is between the Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards, which provides for a waiver of confidentiality; and the Foreign Currency Act, which provides for absolute confidentiality.
There is no conflict between the Constitution and the Foreign Currency Act.
The perceived conflict is so simplistic that it is seriously laughable. If there is any conflict, it is between the Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards, which provides for a waiver of confidentiality; and the Foreign Currency Act, which provides for absolute confidentiality.
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/33254/senator-miriam-defensor-santiago-corona-not-guilty
“The prosecution mistakes admission for confession. In a confession, the defendant admits guilt. In an admission, the defendant merely states facts, which might tend to prove his guilt.”
“In the instant case, the defendant did not make a confession, but merely an admission, with a legal defense.”
#51. bay, klaro-klaro na ang deprensya ng FCD law at SALN law.
Babayaran ba si Corona sa kanyang pag-iikot sa mga schools para magturo ng kanyang sariling batas? Sino kayang university, liban sa U of Batangas, ang magsasayang sa kanya ng pera.
May delusion of grandeur talaga ang thief magistrate, ginagaya ang mga gumagalang presidente ng tate pagkatapos ng kanilang termino.
Tsampion daw sya ng transparency at accountability dahil nagbigay sya ng waiver, yun ay matapos na hindi kagatin ang una nyang malasadong waiver.
Ex-chief justice Corona is definitely excused for his twisted logic and intentions.
hi50 says:
May 31, 2012 at 3:44 pm
EIUSDEM or EJUSDEM GENERIS
I already made my explanation in raissaroblesdotcom/2012/03/26/coronas-daughter-bought-california-and-the-fort-properties-22-days-of-each-other/ at Comment No. 428 entitled “The RULE of Law”.
It was a bit disappointing that MDS was not corrected in her view of “betrayal of public trust” parroting Fr. Bernas’ assertion that only a high crime constitutes an impeachable offense.
The Constitutional Framers never meant it that way for they inserted “betrayal of public trust” as the sixth and last ground for impeachment.
Interpretation of the plain language of the text (the letter of the law) must be done ahead of the “ejusdem generis” rule. That’s the rule.
Fr. Bernas (and, MDS) was betrayed by a punctuation mark “comma” and a word “or”.
The “comma” set “betrayal of public trust” apart from the first five impeachable offenses which are all high crimes.
While the conjunctive word “or” set “betrayal of public trust” as an alternative impeachable offense same as the first five impeachable offenses. “Betrayal of public trust” is never a high crime BUT may be chosen as a ground for impeachment when the situation calls for it.
Further statutory construction will easily bear me out on this explanation.
However, what I find to be a blessing for us is the fact that the true intention of an impeachment prevailed. The next Latin word will make us understand…
QUASI
MDS said impeachment is quasi-judicial and quasi-political. “Kung wari judicial at kung wari political.”
Wrong. Impeachment may be quasi-judicial because Rules of Court are suppletorily applied but NEVER quasi-political because impeachment IS political!
One of her colleagues represented the political side of impeachment while MDS the judicial side as she bragged too much about it…with the “preponderance of evidence, blah, blah, blah”.
One of her colleagues even said, “Hindi na ako magmamarunong-marunong…”
Yes, he need not pretend great knowledge in judicial proceedings for impeachment as a political process will prevail…and, true enough, had prevailed.
This goes to show that Latin phrases or words are really for the erudite; but used inappropriately, the erudition is replaced by idiocy.
MDS = Miriam Defensor-Santiago
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Betrayal of public trust is one thing, culpable violation of the Constitution is another.
Article 2 of the Articles of Impeachment against Corona alleged BOTH.
Sorry, MDS, as I said before…
Oops, forgot to close the blockquote tag…
Last statements read:
MDS, 20 of your colleagues, more than 2/3 required, had spoken…a minority must never determine what an impeachable offense constitutes. Ilan kayo, tatatlo lang???
What Corona did was, and will always be from now on, an impeachable offense for Corona.
In the future, another crop of legislators will determine an impeachable offense on another one next in line in the “impeachment row”.
(J. del Castillo’s impeachment possibly will be shelved for now.)
Who knows “breach of campaign promise” may be an impeachable offense in the future even though that promise was done before his incumbency as an impeachable officer?
An impeachable offense depends on the determination by Congress.
# 57
The word “or” is disjunctive, as in disjoin (disunite). It is the word “and” which is conjunctive, meaning to conjoin.
To be precise…
“Or” is a coordinating conjunction.
Betrayal of public trust?
Comrade Pnoy gave 50 Million pesos to the Reds, I don’t think it is just a matter of public trust but clearly a TREASON.
He should be impeached, ahora mismo!
MDS said impeachment is quasi-judicial and quasi-political. “Kung wari judicial at kung wari political.”
Wrong. Impeachment may be quasi-judicial because Rules of Court are suppletorily applied but NEVER quasi-political because impeachment IS political!
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I have to consult Black’s Law Dictionary (2nd Edition) and it is stated there:
A criminal proceeding against a public officer, before a QUASIPOLITICAL court, instituted by a written accusation called “articles of impeachment;”
Read more: IMPEACHMENT | Definition of IMPEACHMENT (Black’s Law Dictionary)
http://thelawdictionary.org/impeachment/
The Rule of Hypocrisy is interpret the law in your favor, interpret it against your enemies.
The Rule of Hypocrisy is what is good for the gander is good for the gander alone.
The Rule of Hypocrisy is we are a class all our own, a set above the rest. The standard we impose is for the lower class alone. The nerve of them who think we should not be exempted!
There you go…
Another ground for impeachment…
Or…
Is it just a step downward the “high” moral ground?
Don’t worry, the president will still be judged accordingly as you are judging him now.
Sans a legitimate accusation of a wrongdoing, the Delsa Flores Standard or the Montemayor Standard will not apply to anyone in the news right now (I think)…
Except for Philippine ambassador to Syria Nestor Padalhin who is up for confirmation.
The Supreme Court had this to say:
“Although Section 2 of Article XI of the Constitution enumerates six grounds for impeachment, two of these, namely, other high crimes and betrayal of public trust, elude a precise definition. In fact, an examination of the records of the 1986 Constitutional Commission shows that the framers could find no better way to approximate the boundaries of betrayal of public trust and other high crimes than alluding to both positive and negative examples of both, without arriving at their clear cut definition or even a standard therefor.
That sentiment about the amorphous content of “betrayal of public trust” was actually articulated early on, even by one of the framers of the current constitution. Commissioner Wilfrido V. Villacorta during the period of sponsorship and debate of Committee Report No. 17 on the article on Accountability of Public Officers said:
“…I am not a lawyer so I can anticipate the difficulties that a layman may encounter in understanding this provision and also the possible abuses that the legislature can commit in interpreting this phrase. It is to be noted that this ground was also suggested in the 1971 Constitutional Convention. A review of the Journals of that Convention will show that it was not included; it was construed as encompassing acts which are just short of being criminal but which constitute gross faithlessness against public trust, tyrannical abuse of power, inexcusable negligence of duty, favouritism and gross abuse of discretionary powers. “
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/manila/opinion/2012/01/19/geronimo-betrayal-public-trust-views-high-court-201388http://opinion.inquirer.net/19325/impeachment-for-dummies
Ukol pa rin sa SALN…
Patas-patas daw sabi ni Chiz (Escudero). O, sige, bantayan n’yo kung maco-confirm ang appointment ni Philippine ambassador to Syria Nestor Padalhin.
Hindi niya dineklara ang property sa Seattle, Washington dahil hinuhulugan pa daw ito mula 1992. Hindi pa daw ganap ang pagmamay-ari n’ya dito.
Ganyan din naman ang palusot noon ni Montemayor sa kaniyang mga luxury vehicles (G.R. No. 170146, August 25, 2010). Tinanggal sa puwesto si Montemayor dahil nagsinungaling sa Sworn Statement of Assets and Liabilities (SSAL).
Ito pang lampas 30 years na nasa government service na si Padalhin ay patatawarin n’yong mga nagmamagaling na senador kayo?
Palibhasa pa-pogi lang kayo sa mga susunod na eleksiyon…kayo, Chiz at Alan Peter (Cayetano). Gusto n’yo pang higitan (o idiskarel?) ang crusade ni P.Noy!
Tapos ito pang si Loren (Legarda) na sinang-ayunan din ni Chiz…at ni Miriam (Defensor-Santiago) sa panayam sa radyo kanina lang…na may CORRRECTIVE ACTION daw sa SALN:
Hay, naku! Magbasa naman kayo mga pulpol na senador. Falsification of public documents ang ginawa ni Pleyto at Carabeo. Pati na rin siyempre si Nestor Padalhin.
Hindi puwedeng palitan ang SALN pag nagsinungaling na ang gumawa. Ang CORRECTIVE ACTION ay limitado lang sa porma (formal defects) at hindi sa sustansiya (substantial defects) nito.
Basahin ang R.A. 6713, ang G.R. No. 176058 ukol kay Pleyto, at ang G.R. Nos. 190580-81 ukol naman kay Carabeo.
Kaya ang tanong ni Joker Arroyo sa impeachment court ay impeachable ba ang SALN na correctable naman at mayroong procedures sila kung paano e ko correct. Ngayon, kung sinabihan na si Corona pero hindi pa rin kinorekta yong problema sa SALN ay yon na dapat ang tamang panahon para mag impeach. Hindi yong bira agad si comrade pnoy.
Copy-paste ‘yan mula sa blog post na ellentordesillasdotcom/2012/05/29/guilty-2/, Comment No. 184.
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Basahin, please, ang R.A. 6713, ang G.R. No. 176058 ukol kay Pleyto, at ang G.R. Nos. 190580-81 ukol naman kay Carabeo ukol sa CORRECTIVE ACTION.
Santiago mentioned the Pleyto case around or after 8:00 on the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZqAlCRxyw&feature=related
Based on Carrabeo case, ito ang sabi ni Santiago:
Prosecution: Show that there is intent to commit dishonesty on the part of defendant.
Defense: Show that your client has in good faith, declared in his SALN all his deposits, both peso and dollar deposits, and if he did not, why not?
Carabeo case on or after 4:00 on the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrlKK2E400&feature=relmfu
Philippine Guardians Brotherhood v. COMELEC (en banc)
http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2010/apr2010/gr_190529_2010.html
Although not a crime, betrayal of public trust refers to acts or omissions which are mala in se, not mala prohibita. So intent is still required.
I discussed this in my blog.
But as Gerald Ford said,
It is not a strict legal definition, but captures the reality of impeachment; kursunadahan lang.
Justice William O. Douglas was too wa-kali for Gerald Ford. Bill Clinton enjoyed Monica Lewinsky’s karaoke performance on his mike. And Corona is too rich, without explanation (but that was not the charge.).
Comrade Pnoy gave 50 Million pesos to the Reds, I don’t think it is just a matter of public trust but clearly a TREASON.
He should be impeached, ahora mismo!
As we all knew, hearsay or gossips are not admissible to the court. Bring your solid evidence, then pnoy must face his day in court. How about your libel suit if not proven?
Like I said in #58…
An impeachable offense, therefore, depends on the composition of Congress (the like-minded members of each House) AND the exigencies of the time.
It is alleged by the members of the HOR by way of initiating the impeachment process. An impeachable offense always exists in the Lower House.
Final determination of it is done by the members of the Senate via the impeachment trial. An impeachable offense ceases to exist in the Upper House when its members vote an acquittal.
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‘Yan ang nangyari kamakailan…
20 ang nagsabing guilty si Corona sa Article 2.
It does not matter if it was Culpable violation of the Constitution AND/OR Betrayal of public trust. What is clear is that impeachable offense booted Corona out of office.
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Sa hindi makapaniwalang hindi impeachable offense ang nagpatanggal kay Corona sa puwesto, suportahan niyo na lang sina Adaza at Paguia sa kanilang hiling sa Korte Suprema…
Wala daw kasing jurisdiction ang Senado na dinggin ang impeachment complaint laban Kay Corona.
Baka mapa-TRO n’yo pa ang pagkakaalis kay Corona bilang Punong Mahistrado.
Dali kayo bago pa makapagligpit nang husto si Renato ng kaniyang mga gamit sa dating mesa niya.
Too late na baycas2, balik na daw siya sa private practice. Kung mag TRO na naman ang SC mabuti pang e-dissolve na lang ang senado. Unutil na ang kalalabasan nila pag nangyari pa iyon. Ang alam ko magagaling na abogado itong sina Paguia at Adaza pero nakain na yata sila ng sistemang baluktot.
Academic discussion lang ang akin. The Senate has sole jurisdiction, kaya tulad ng sabi ni Gerald Ford, kung anong sabihin nila, yun na nga ang impeachable offense.
Ang Supreme Court ang walang jurisdiction. And the verdict has been rendered. Moot na, para mag-TRO.
Ang mistrial ay hindi rin puwede, a mistrial is declared before a verdict – in cases, for example, when an improper comment was made during closing arguments, before the verdict, or when no verdict can be reached, because the jury is divided.
Kung gusto ni Miriam na mangomentaryo pa, magsulat siya sa law journal.
Sabi ni atty sax tapos na ang laban, magsulat na lang daw sa law journal, hehehe! Dyan, naniniwala ako sa final say ng ating magaling na resident lawyer kesa sa passe Adaza, Paguia at Santiago.
Agreed chi, atty. snv thanks sa pointers case closed!
#76, baycas
20 ang nagsabing guilty si Corona sa Article 2.
It does not matter if it was Culpable violation of the Constitution AND/OR Betrayal of public trust. What is clear is that impeachable offense booted Corona out of office.
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Aye aye!
“An impeachable offense, therefore, depends on the composition of Congress (the like-minded members of each House) AND the exigencies of the time.”
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In Philippine politics, it does not depends on the political composition or exigencies of the time. It all depends on how much bribe they can get and other political considerations.
In the case of the Aquino P31 million funding for the ABB group, which is already non-existent as an urban assassin group once identified with the Jose Maria Sison Communist Party faction, and is currently part and parcel of political kingpins and warlords private army, Aquinos Presidential Peace Adviser, Teresita Deles said that the government will still provide that armed rebel group with the P31 million without asking the group to surrender their firearms.
http://www.tribuneonline.org/20111104/headlines/20111104hed5.html
GMA News made a list of who have signed the waiver to open their bank accounts,who said they will sign but have not yet signed and who refused to sign.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/260615/news/specialreports/waiver-waiver-lang-who-signed-who-refused-and-who-are-waiting
Therefore, Corona was impeached not because of judicial blah and/or political blah or quasi blah blah.
In short, the bottom line is how much the taxpayers money was used by Pnoy to bribed these prostitutes and other political considerations.
Wow, five months of trial on TV and millions of wasted taxpayers money. That’s entertainment to the max while hunger and poverty are growing exponentially.
Waaah. Huhuhu! Hikbi…hikbi…
O ayan tapos na, get a life. Move on.
O ayan, pumirma na pala si Binay ng waiver. Meron na rin siguradong SALN. Pakisilip nga kung nakadeclare yung dalawang penthouse sa Rockwell? P36M (pre-sale) ang isang standard unit noong ginagawa pa yun. Mas mahal pag penthouse. Siguro ngayon mga P45M-55M na ang isa.
Sigurado ako alam rin ni Tony Trillanes yan (Antonio Trillanes II) Kuya ni Sonny. Engineer siya noon ng JAA (Jose Aliling + Asso) sa Rockwell.
Simula pa lang yan.
Mas productive yan kesa mag-iiyak kay Corona. O mag-aksaya ng column space sa mga dyaryo at websites sa waiver-waiver na yan.
For those who still trying to revive Corona’s fate, try to approach Paguia & Adaza to strengthen their complaint questioning the validity of impeachment trial & the verdict imposed by the senate. Brenda & joker will wait for you! Goodluck!