I, myself, got dizzy trying to understand the somewhat disorganized business transaction between him and Maria Cristina Corona, wife of Chief Justice Renato Corona. I gave up when Presiding Judge Juan Ponce-Enrile asked him about tax declarations and Vicente replied, “I don’t know.”
To be fair, Vicente seemed sincere. Even guileless. And trusting.
It would be unfair to accuse him of knowingly acting as the Corona’s dummy. Maybe,taken advantaged of.
Vicente, second cousin of Corona, was testifying on his purchase of seven-parcels of land from Corona’s wife, Maria Cristina and her sister Miriam.
The seven parcels of land are part of the 45 lots that the prosecution said the chief justice owns before the start of trial.The prosecution later corrected the figure to 24 parcels of land, six of them parking lots.
Vicente said he bought the 3,400 square meter property in Marikina from the Roco sisters (Maria Cristina and Miriam) for P1,018,000 in 1990.
The payment,which he made through a manager’s check, came from the sale of his other properties that he sold for P3.5 million.
Vicente said he owns the property because he holds the absolute deed of sale. Yet, he also said he does not hold the title which is still in the name of Ma. Cristina Roco Corona.
He said the reason the title is not yet in his name is because he does not have enough money to pay for the transfer tax which could cost him P200,000.
Enrile asked him if he has a child. He said he has a daughter in Kuwait.
The prosecution, in a press briefing, asked what would happen if something happens to Vicente and the title is still with Mrs. Corona. How could the daughter claim the property.
Vicente described his relation with Corona as “kinakapatid” (almost like a brother). “My father is his ninong. His mother is my ninang in my wedding,” he said. But he said they haven’t seen each other for 20 years except last Jan. 20 when the Corona couple asked for the original copy of the deed of sale of the property.
Vicente also related that he, accompanied by Mrs. Corona, went to Makati City to have the deed of sale notarized by a certain Atty. Ma. Beatrice Montoya.
Private prosecutor Jose Justiniano showed a certification that Montoya does not have the authority to be a notary public in Makati City.
At 6:45 p.m,Vicente was discharged from the witness stand. To everybody’s relief.
Related articles:
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/26740/prosecution-casts-doubt-on-sale-of-coronas-marikina-property
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/03/13/12/sale-corona-property-raises-red-flags-prosecutors
Pulpol yang mga abogadong yan.
The title with the Register of Deeds is only notice to the world. As between the parties, the apparent owner (Mrs. Corona), and Vicente, the deed of sale governs. Mrs. Corona had already transferred the title to Vicente.
So if Vicente dies, as between Corona and Vicente’s daughter, the daughter will have the right to the property, not Mrs. Corona.
What if Mrs. Corona sells the property, since she is the apparent owner? The innocent third party who purchased the land will have the better claim to the land over the daughter of Vicente. But Vicente’s daughter will be able to sue Mrs. Corona for the proceeds of the sale, plus interest from the time of the sale, until the time of the claim by the daughter of Vicente.
Malimit namang mangyari yan; that title is not registered for lack of funds to pay transfer taxes.
Yung Nanay ko, yumao na. Yung mana niya sa Lola ko, na matagal nang patay, nakapangalan pa sa Lola ko. My late mother and her siblings just kept putting off transferring the title in their names, because they did not want to pay transfer taxes.
Ngayon, kami ang magbabayad, if the title is transferred in our names.
I suppose you can complain of generational shifting of the burden to pay taxes; pero nangyayari yan. It is only new to wet-behind-the-ears lawyers who strut around like they are geniuses.
What if Mrs. Corona sells the property, since she is the apparent owner? The innocent third party who purchased the land will have the better claim to the land over the daughter of Vicente. But Vicente’s daughter will be able to sue Mrs. Corona for the proceeds of the sale, plus interest from the time of the sale, until the time of the claim by the daughter of Vicente.
Naku, SnV, Kawawa naman pala yung anak ni Demetrio. God forbid, ang laking perwisyo yan sa kanya.
If Mrs. Corona does not sell the property, and Vicente dies, at any time, Vicente’s daughter can have the property titled in her name on the strength of the deed of sale. Of course, Vicente’s daughter will have to pay taxes.
What perjuicio?
Ilang taon na, hindi pa gumagawa ng second sale si Mrs. Corona. That, to me, indicates good faith in abiding by their (Vicente and Mrs. Corona) contract (deed of sale).
I believe, somewhere, I read about Vicente having built his house there. He seems to have been in peaceful enjoyment of the property; another indication that the Coronas are abiding by the contract of sale.
In salesman’s terms, no sale ito. Walang ibubunga ito para sa prosecution. Humanap na lang sila ng ibang issue kung saan sila makaka-score.
Yes, he has built a house in that property that he bought from Mrs. Corona.
A good lawyer argues where he is strongest, and only if the issue is germane to winning his case.
The mediocre lawyer is argumentative, period. He will argue everything, para lang masabing nakapalo siya. Sometimes he argues the smallest point para lang masabing “See , na-blanca ko siya.”
This is a weak point to exploit, as far as the prosecution is concerned. Wait for a good opening, kung baga sa chess.
Yung notario, weak din yan. A signed contract need not be notarized. The notary is there for the general public. As between the parties, when the parties sign, it binds them. The fact that they, by deed (actions) comport themselves according to the contract, indicates that they do have a contract, and are abiding by the terms of the contract.
Vicente is peacefully enjoying the property, and Mrs. Corona has not disturbed him in the peaceful enjoyment. Diyan lang, kitang tunay ang nilagdaan nilang kasunduan; at tunay ang kanilang intensyon, kahit na hindi rehistrado.
Yes, he has built a house in that property that he bought from Mrs. Corona. – Ellen
Nakapag pagawa ng bahay pero di mabayaran ang transfer ng titulo ng ilang taon nakalipas?
Doon ba siya nakatira ngayon?
Kung nagawa ni Mrs. Corona na angkinin ang kayamanan ng BASA or ng angkan nila ay maari rin niyang angkinin ito kaya okey lang sa kanya na di malipat ang titulo.
carla corona-castillo was able to get jose and raymunda’s BGEI shares in a public auction.
she’s the daughter of the CJ who bought the la vista property for 18M.
I think Sen. Recto raised a good point. Why was this property listed in Corona’s SALN after being sold 2 years earlier? If it’s no longer yours, why include it? May good faith ba dito or they have an internal arrangement. Corona could tell Vicente, “tirhan mo muna”. Of course it’s just speculation. The fact of the matter is still its inclusion in Corona’s SALN. Amazing, di ba?
There seems to be a pattern here, the Coronas sell their properties to their relatives. Very convenient if you’re trying to hide something. Having dummies is a common practice for crooks.
Nahihilo ako sa kwentong ito!
Why was this property listed in Coronas’ SALN after being sold 2 years earlier – schumey #9
Hindi pa raw na-transfer kay Mang Vicente ang titulo kaya ganun.
Tanong ni Recto: Bakit in 1993 wala na sa SALN ni Corona?
Take note, wala pa ring pambayad ng transfer of title si Mang Vicente nung 1993 hangga sa ngayon.
Sagot ni Cuevas: He is not “privy” to that yet.
Motion ni Recto para maliwanagan sila lahat: Ipatawag si Corona at mismong sya ang sumagot sa tanong.
Dapat, tingnan natin kung paano lalong mahilo sa pagtatahi ng kasinungalingan si Corona sa kasong ito. Kung si Mang Vicente na sa tingin ko ay nagsasabi ng totoo ay nahihilo si Corona pa kaya na puro inconsistencies na ang pinagsasabi sa publiko?
Agree ako kay Ellen na mukhang sincere naman si Mang Vicente dahil sya din ay hilo. 🙂
“The seven parcels of land are part of the 45 lots that the prosecution said the chief justice owns before the start of trial. The defense team said only 24 lots, not 45.”
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Ang sabi ng pork-secutors ay 24 parcels of land, including parking lots: 18 properties + 6 parking lots
Mr. Vicente had proven that he bought 7 properties from Corona.
So, the remaining properties of Corona, as of now, are 11 parcels of land + 6 parking lots = 17 parcels of land/parking lots.
Sa bandang huli lalabas na isa lang talaga ang property ni Corona…..hehehehe
“The seven parcels of land are part of the 45 lots that the prosecution said the chief justice owns before the start of trial. The DEFENSE TEAM said only 24 lots, not 45.”
Hindi ang defense team ang nagsabi nyan. Si Tupaz mismo ang nagsabi nyan, lead counsel ng pork-secutors. Naglagay pa ako ng link tungkol jan sa nakaraang topic.
ngayon makakatulog na ng mahimbing si mang vicente, hindi na pwede angkinin ng mga corona yun lupa. pwede ng mangutang para sa transfer ng title.
@cmgbx:
Hindi pa rin. Mamayang hapon ay ibebenta na ni Mrs. Corona kung kaninong dummy yang lupa ni Mang Demet. Maghabol na yung anak niya sa tambol mayor.
Ngayon pa alam na nilang di pa nata-transfer. Saan siya magrereklamo, sa Supreme Court?
Teka bakit ang kawani ng SC ay puwedeng mag witness sa Depend akala ko ba ay nag issue ang SC na kahit sino aydi puwede mag witness sa kaso ni Thief Justice.
Dummy lang ito at puro may butas ang paliwanag ni Mang Dummy. Malaking lupain at di mo ilalagay sa pangalan mo ang titulo ng lupa. Nag pagawa ka ng bahay pero di mo mabayaran ang titulo ng ilang taon.
Nangyari na sa amin yan sa Bombon, sa CamSur kaya alam ko kung gaano kahirap. Story-telling time.
Isang malaking lupain ang naiwan ng mga ninuno ko. Nung araw, kung saan abutin ng tanaw ay iyo kaya mula sa malaking sakahin hanggang tuktok ng bundok, kanila. Kaya lang, nung namatay ay walang testamento tapos ay hindi pa inayos at sa haba ng panahon ay lumiit ng lumiit.
Yung national highway, yung NAPOCOR power lines (7+7 mtrs along the whole length), yung irrigation line ng NIA, (5 mtrs wide) ay lahat na-expropriate ng gobyerno. Yung mga mga administraydor, este administrador, mga kapatid din ng lola ko, ang tanging nakatikim ng bayad. Yung mga nasa Maynila, walang alam sa mga nangyari. Maraming isinangla sa Intsik, di naman pwedeng magmay-ari yung alien kaya lang ipinangalan sa sikat na abugado.
Madaling salita, yung sangla ay naging deed of sale sa pangalan ni abugado. Inabot ng 30 yrs at ang henerasyon na namin ang nagka interes, may kanya-kanya na ring abugado ang mga pamilya. Taun-taon may reunion pero pag yung lupa ang pinaguusapan, sa away lagi nauuwi.
Sa ngayon ay dalawa na lang sa tagapagmana ang buhay at pareho pang nasa US. Di nila matanggap na yung dalawang naiwan sa Bicol ay kukuha pa rin ng parte sa minana samantalang mas marami silang naibenta kesa sa naiwan sa mga kapatid. Sa ngayon ay merong P1.5M ang bawat isa sa aming mga apo sa tuhod. Kung hindi nabawasan sana ay aabutin ng P13M bawat isa sa amin. Nagkakaisa kami na patawarin na lang ang mga nagsamantala at perahin na kesa lalo pang mawala, pero ayaw talaga nung mga matanda. Parang si Sister Flory sila. Hustisya, bago patawad.
Bakit ko naikwento itong personal na kwento ko at anong kinalaman nito sa topic? Matagal ko nang ikinikwento ito dito pero ngayon ko lang idinitalye. Nag-ngingitngit ako dahil yung abugado na front ni Intsik at si Intsik mismo ay pinaghatian yung mga lupaing nakapaligid. Isa pa kilala ninyo itong abugadong ito, “mabait” siya at lahat na ng maganda nasabi na sa kanya. Pero hindi yung “landgrabber”.
Higit diyan, kaapelyido siya ni Mrs. Corona. Magkamag-anak siguro sila kaya hawig yung BGEI sa kwento namin? Yung abugado, si dating Sen. Roco.
Interesting,Tongue. Especially the lawyer involved. May mga narinig na rin kasi ako about him.
The 21 million just about covers a portion of Corona’s assets. Yang perang yan ay hindi purong pera. Ito ay may portion ding in kind. O kahit na sabihin natin na purong pera yan, hindi na ba siya bibili ng kanyang pagkain, gasolina, utilities, damit, isurance atbp? Mukhang sa klase ng lifestyle niya, he wants high class stuff, first class na eroplano, penthouse na condo, bahay sa LaVista para sa anak. That 21 million will probably just be 10 million or even less after all the expenses are paid. Mapuwera na lang kung libre lahat and mga gastusin niya dahil may mga “perks” siya. Private companies do that to retain their valuable employees. Even in Japan in the 80s, companies are the ones paying for the travel expenses of their executives. The lower level executives are given Asian tours, the middle management to the US and the higher executives are given European tours. I bet you China is also doing the same thing now.
on the other side si Toby Tiangco na nag tistify in favor of the defense e inaaksaya lang ang oras ng impeachment court at ginawa siyang bala ng depensa para sa delay ng proceedings. Gusto lang nyang sumipsip sa sa SC para mapaboran ang TRO ng kontrata nila ni Regis Romero sa killer landfill sa Navotas na lumalason sa mga nakatira doon. Pansinin ninyo ang itsura ni cong. Tiangco baka puweding ipa drug test muna yan bago payagang umupo sa witness stand under oath.
re #12. Thanks, Xman. I corrected the article.
Mantoya used to notarize documents in accounting firm SGV.
“When she resigned from SGV, she joined the Romulo Mabanta Law Office, which in turn assigned her to Hongkong for many years. She has since married a foreigner and is now living in Switzerland with her husband (source: Manila Tribune)..
dapat mapenalize itong abogado na nagpresent ng certification na hindi allowed magnotarized si atty mantoya….dapat niya matandaan na ang notarial commission ay nirerenew every year… tapos iyong sinasabi niya na hindi naman authorized si mantoya na magnotarized sa makati city.. iyon ay basi sa 2004 guidelines ng supreme court…. pero nuong 1990 hindi pa iyon effective…
2004 guidelines ng supreme court
Regular Place of Work or Business. – The term “regular place of work or business” refers to a stationary office in the city or province wherein the notary public renders
RULE III
COMMISSIONING OF NOTARY PUBLIC
SECTION 1. Qualifications. – A notarial commission may be issued by an Executive Judge to any qualified person who submits a petition in accordance with these Rules.chan robles virtual law library
To be eligible for commissioning as notary public, the petitioner:
Must be a resident in the Philippines for at least one (1) year and maintains a regular place of work or business in the city or province where the commission is to be issued;
the story of mr. vicente is not unusual… in fact it tells us the truth that indeed the system in our country in terms of land ownership need to be overhaul….. in fact ang namana namin na lupa from our parents is still in the name of our greatgrandfather… kasi malaki babayaran namin sa transfer tax…
kung ikaw ay magsale ng lupa mo… tapos dalawa ang buyer mo.. may isa na hindi kilala at isa naman na kapamilya mo… mas gugustuhin mo pa na sa pamilya mo.. which is common sa pinas…
Kahit na mag 5/6 sila, mukhang may sablay pa rin. Then, they will say, well Mrs Corona made as much money as Corona did. Still, mahirap pa ring paniwalaan. Eh saan nila kinuha yung mga dollar accounts nila? Kahit na sabihin natin na super ganda ang private practice niya bago siya naglingkod sa gobiyerno, mahirap pa ring paniwalaan na may bilyon sila (kasama ang dollar accounts nila).
Tongue, nakakaiyak naman yung kwento mo.
# 22
Hindi billion. The dollar account is 700 k. At 40 pesos per dollar, about 28, that is why many say 30 million pesos equivalent.
The salary and other emoluments amount to 22 million. The sales of Mrs. Corona’s property is 38 million. That is 60 million.
Looks like the gap between the revenue and the SALN is closing, if not already closed.
Mayroon pa bang iba? At the rate they are going, mauuwi sa failure to disclose ang laban, sa halip na unexplained wealth.
Baka naman ibangon uli yung limang articles na na-withdraw. Do I hear a motion to withdraw the withdrawal?
Maybe it would be better phrased to say motion to reinstate the five articles of impeachment.
SnV, where did you get the P38 M?
As to the dollar account, the $700 is the initial deposit of one account.The info I got is that, that particular account has $1.8 M. I also understand there are are more than one account.
“The salary and other emoluments amount to 22 million.”—sax
Diyan ako nahilo sa declaration na iyan na ang salary ni Chief sa loob ng sampong taon ay P22 million. Pati fringe benefits at pati transportation allowances, pati reperesentation allowances, at iba pa na dapat ay panggastos ni Chief ayon sa batas na dapat gamitin lang ang mga iyon sa pagtupad ng kanyang tungkulin bilang Chief Justice ay kanyang inuwi at binulsa, at ngayon ay diniclara na personal income niya raw for ten years na umabot sa P22 million.
Inuwi at ibinulsa, at baka diniposit sa sarili niyang bank accounts, eh, hindi naman dapat ibulsa iyon dahil dapat iliquidate iyon at ang sukli ay dapat isuli sa gobierno.
Nakakahilo talaga.
@Robert, i agree.
And now Corona has exposed himself that he did fail to include these in his SALN.
I was wondering bakit di narin sinama ng Defense yung pera nakuha ni Corona sa pagrecycle ng bote at dyaryo?
Pera din yun diba?
Tongue, kaya hindi ako bilib sa kanya, peksman.
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P22M Corona’s salary in 10 years. ‘Wag na nating isama ang iba pang properties, paano sya nakabili ng tatlong de primerang condos sa ‘liit’ ng sweldo nya?
Hindi na nasimot ang sweldo, may dagdag pang savings na $1.8M at iba-iba pang bank accounts?
Matematik + lies = thief justice
Hindi naman pinag-uusapan kung can afford si Corona na bayaran yung mga pag-aari niya. Tapus na yun. Tinapos na ni Enrile nung hindi payagan yung Article 2.4 na tungkol sa ill-gotten wealth.
Ang kwestiyon sa Article 2 na natitira ay yung 2.2 at 2.3, kung meron bang pagsasapubliko ng SALN at kung makatotohanan o kumpleto ba yung mga laman nito.
Naisapubliko ba? Sufficient na ba’ng compliance yung i-file sa Clerk of court at itago? Naaayon ba yun sa Constitution? Yan yung 2.2. Sabi ni Cuevas, nai-file daw kaso merong order si Narvasa na di ilalabas dahil baka maharass ang mga justices.
Katanggap-tanggap bang palusot yun? Bahala ang mga senador dun. It could go either way.
Yung 2.3, kumpleto ba’ng sinumpaan niyang SALN? Wala bang itinago? Sufficient ba’ng compliance at tugma sa purpose ng Constitution na transparency?
Saan ngayon bumabagsak diyan yung dollar accounts? Meron ba’ng nai-file na kahit isang dollar account? Inamin na ni Corona na meron siyang Dollar account at ilalabas niya “in due time”.
Ang tanong pa rin, nasaan sa SALN ang cash on hand na nagkakahalagang at least $700K? Kundi man, yung sabi ni Ellen na $1.8M? Nai-file ba o itinago?
Simple lang ang tanong simple lang din ang sagot.
Ang palusot lang niya diyan e kung meron siyang ebidensiyang naiclose niya ang anumang dollar account kada bago magyear-end kaya’t di kailangang ireport sa SALN dahil ang nirereport lang ay yung ending balance ng bawat taon diba?
Ngayon, kapag merong KAHIT ISANG dollar account ang tumawid ng susunod na taon, ay simulan na niyang magbalut-balot dahil siguradong guilty ang sentensya niya.
# 26
I read weeks ago about a check that Cuevas showed, which was the payment for the property of Mrs. Corona. It could be 34 million, or 38. I clearly remember, though, that it was in the thirties.
# 27
Yang mga allowance, usually, cash yan, to be spent as you please. Yung rice allowance, for instance, hindi naman nagbibigay ng bigas ang Supreme Court. Hindi rin kailangang ipakita ang recibo.
The various funny names are just excuses to give the employees more money. When I was in the Senate, there were bonuses (year-end bonus, productivity bonus) and other ways to give more money. One time, wala nang maimbento, at ayaw namang isoli ang pera to the general fund, they declared a “social amelioration allowance” (actually another pabigay over and on top of the year end and productivity bonus). So the joke then, to ask if you received yours, was “Pare, na-ameliorate ka na ba?
At least, hindi kinurakot ang pera, and it was given to the rank and file.
Sa dinami-dami ng mga henyo’t mga praning na abugago sa Senado, si Trillanes pa ang nakabulaga kay Cuevas na sinita niya na nagpapalusot at ginagamit yung mga witness para gibain yung naitalang imahe ni Corona na mandarambong at magnanakaw.
Walang ebidensiya para mapawalang saysay yung paratang na hindi kumpleto ang nasa SALN.
Sabi nung mga hosts ng ANC sa interview kay Trillanes, yung dating 45 real properties ni Corona ngayon ay 6 na lang daw base sa kwenta ni Escudero.
Matalas at malinaw ang sagot ni AT4. May kanya-kanya raw silang panantayan at iba raw ang tingin niya dito. Nagulat ako dahil mukhang makatwiran siya at di tulad ng mga karaniwang nababasa mong dahilan sa internet man diyaryo, tv o radyo mukhang pinag-isipan talaga.
Una, yun daw mga parking lot ng mga condo gaya ng nung sa Bellagio (milyunan diyan ang isang parking lot) ay tatlo, samantalang di naman siya nagdeklara sa SALN ng ibang sasakyan maliban sa pakotse ng SC. Tama nga naman!
Isa pa daw, hindi pa naman naipapaliwanag yung Penthouse unit bakit binabawas na ni Escudero sa bilang? Idineklara nga sa SALN yun, kaso P6M lang ang halaga. Ang value ay pumapalo na daw ng P40M. Yung ibang properties ganun din, kaya hanggang di naipapaliwanag. Sagutin pa rin ni Corona iyon, yung 7 pa lang na lupang ibinenta kay Demet ang merong paliwanag kahit pa di ko maintindihan.
Speaking of Demet, 2nd cousin niya si Corona pero yung lupa sa Marikina ay meron pang kapitbahay na nagbroker kumabig pa siguro ng 2% commission, hahaha. Tapos di niya raw nakikita si Corona pero nung hiniram ni Atty Justiniano ng prosecution yung deed of sale, bigla siyang kumambyo, nakapirma kasi si Corona na witness ni Cristina. Yung isang witness di na rin daw kilala maliban sa first name.
Napanood ko yung kuha ng GMA 7 sa property na ito. Hindi pinakita ang bahay maliban sa isang lanai o porch kung saan ginawa ang interview, aba malaki ang ang compound, kunsabagay, dalawang 1,700 sqm ang sukat nun. Saka Ellen, punumpuno ng bonsai yung mahabang pathway mula sa gate papunta sa bahay. Akala mo nga jungle sa dami ng punongkahoy na nakapalibot.
Lalo akong nagduda, P3,000 na transfer tax di nabayaran samantalang topnotch bonsai mga 30-40 thousand pesos ang isa e ang dami nung alaga Demet.
Gad Demet!
So kasado na. Failure to disclose lang ang issue.
Like I posted earlier, the amount in the dollar accounts are immaterial, whether ten dollars or ten billion. Pang shock value lang sana yung pagbukas ng amounts, so that there will be oohs and aahs. Wow, ang laki naman. Talagang playing to the gallery lang.
The next issue is, whether submission by Corona is sufficient.
The Constitution provides:
So the Constitution only requires submission, as Cuevas stated in the answer.
Now how is it disclosed? In the manner provided by law – RA 6713 authored by Rene Saguisag.
What does RA 6713 state:
File ang sinabi.
Who will disclose?
The law states:
The Section says “statements filed” (yung inabot sa Clerk) shall be made available. So it is the Clerk who makes the statement available.
So, once inabot na sa Clerk of Court, bahala ang gustong sumilip, they can ask the Clerk of Court. There is no provision of law that says Corona should grab a bullhorn and say, “Hoy, ito ang mga ari-arian ko.”
Now somebody did try to ask for the SALNs, of I believe, all justices, in the time of Marcelo Fernan, not Narvasa. And that is when the Supreme Court en banc issued its Resolution.
So whose obligation is it to disclose, kapag hiningi? The Clerk’s. If he/she did not make the SALN accessible, that cannot be imputed as the act or omission of Corona. You cannot impeach Corona for a Clerk’s refusal.
Mali ang Supreme Court Resolution because a Supreme Court resolution cannot amend Mang Rene’s law? Perhaps. But still, the denial of access is not the act of Corona.
Dahil nga diyan sa answer na yan ni Cuevas, kaya cambio sila Tupas, and they argue (like the noted one) that the SALN must be truthful, etc. If not, then it is perjury, because it is under oath.
Bwelta naman ni Enrile, “Is perjury a high crime?” Sagot ni Barzaga, “No it is not.”
Nobody heard it, but Tupas probably said, “Aray kupu.”
If the less than full disclosure is not a high crime, can it fall under betrayal of public trust? Legal issue lang yan. There is no need for fact-finding
So if the amounts are not an issue, then the facts are in. There is only a legal question here, whether or not the non-disclosure, or less than full disclosure is an impeachable offense – by way of high crimes, or betrayal of the public trust.
Okay. Bugbugan na lang ng Memorandum. No need to receive defense evidence.
In fact, were I for the defense, and the prosecution stipulates that the issue is not about the amounts, but the disclosure, I would waive the presentation of defense evidence and file a demurrer to evidence (motion asking for a dismissal because the prosecution evidence is insufficient to convict).
A grant dismisses the case with prejudice; the denial needs two-thirds vote for a conviction.
If the prosecution limits the issue to disclosure, tapos agad ang kaso. But that gives them only one bite at the apple. Keeping the other articles in play gives them more bites.
So do we limit it? Or do we keep more issues in play?
@TT: Abogado ang nangloko sa inyo?
Sana maipalabas sa cross examination ni Ms. Bayuga na bawa’t buwan, ang mga judges at justices ay nagsusubmit ng Certification na ang mga allowances na binigay ay ginamit ng judges at justices for the purposes they were given under the General Appropriation Act. Yung allowances na binigay, dapat ginamit o ginastos kaya dapat ipunin para sabihin na may malaking annual income ang justices. Kaya hindi tama na sabihin ni Ms. Bayuga na walang pakialam ang payroll kung paano ginastos ng justices ang mga allowances.
“So kasado na. Failure to disclose lang ang issue.” – Sax
No. As far as Article 2 is concerned its 2.2 – yung disclosure – at yung 2.3 (incomplete filing). Ito yung complete text ng 2.3:
so impeachable siya pag yung 2.3 ang pinag-usapan no argument there. Perjury is but a minor offense but still an offense.
What is in the minds of the judges is the lingering question is Corona fit to continue as Chief Justice or not and it does not have to be beyond an iota of reasonable doubt.
And that’s aside from what has been presented in Articles 3 and 7 of the complaint.
While on the topic of perjury, fitness to continue, etc., I find enlightening this article on Rappler proving further that embelishing credentials had been practiced by the “honorable” CJ ever since. His claims of academic honors was, once again, disproved by documents obtained from his alma mater, Ateneo de Kat.
He never received gold medals in Grade School and High School, which was dominated by slain student activist Edgar “Edjop” Jopson. All he got were Spelling Award in Pilipino an an “Activity Award” for the Science Club.
The said fake credentials were removed from the SC website just before the resumption of the impeachment last Monday. But they were in the papers he submitted to the JBC when he applied for associate justice.
Haaay. Pati school records peke. Is he really fit to continue? Should he be allowed to continue?
duane, [pabulong] atin-atin lang, sinabi ko na pangalan sa itaas.
oliver30: “Atty. Mantoya [sic] used to notarize documents in accounting firm SGV…”
oliver30: You may have also heard that Corona was a senior officer of the Tax and Corporate Counseling Group of the Tax Division of SGV.
So sagutin mo itong tanong ko: Bakit kailangan pang pumunta sa Makati sina Mang Demet, Cristina and Renato Corona para magpanotaryo ganung lahat sila taga Quezon City? Dahil ba sa kilala siya ni Corona na officemate ni Montoya?
Juicekopo, di lang pala grade at High school peke ang academic honors, pati pala sa college at graduate school.
Sa follow up report ng Rappler, wala din palang dissertation si Corona, na required for doctorate degrees saan mang eskwelahan pati na residency 5 yrs in his case dahil he was conferred the highest honors at maximum 7 years.
Sa research na ginagawa ni Maritess Vitug para sa bago niyang libro na sequel sa bestselling at most controversial book na “Shadow of Doubt”, napag-alaman na inabot siya sa UST ng 10 yrs or more.
Maging yung MBA niya sa Ateneo wala ring thesis. Yun kayang sa Harvard? Grauate ba talaga yan o kagaya rin ni Gloria na nag-erol lang pero di naman natapos ayon sa dating mainstay dito na si Yuko?
Napakaswerte naman nitong si Atong!
In other words, the main qualification lang ni Corona kay pandak eh ang “dog” loyalty niya and “kiss ass” qualification. Wow!
Btw, Yung abugado ng prosecution kanina if his family name is Hernandez, I think I know this kid as a past neighbor. He looks like my Ninong’s nephew who now lives in Parañaque. He is good.
psb, may I add, “suicidal maniac”!
Tongue, mas matigas ang isang ito kesa kay Angie Reyes. Kay Corona, before he kills himself, he probably will do harm muna sa iba. If he can intimidate someone with a gun, he can easiliy hire someone to silence anyone. Tigasin ang isang ito. Lumalaban. Ganyan ang mga may “sanggano” mentality. Bagay nga ang membership siya sa “pandak mafia”.
Sus ginoo, pekeng-peke rin pala si Corona. Mag-amo nga sila ni Gloria.
psb, hindi magbabang-bang si thief magistrate unlike Reyes. He can live comfortably with shame and negative credibility but can’t live without his millions and prized properties. Now I get it why he proposed to resign but should be able to keep everything he owns. Wala pala syang maipagmamalaki sa sarili kasi peke ang credentials nya sa school.
Can Corona use hefty allowances for personal use?
An article here:
http://184.72.62.8/nation/special-coverage/corona-trial/2348-can-corona-use-hefty-allowances-for-personal-use
Article 3, Par. 3.4.9 states:
Prosecution wasn’t able to present evidence on this due to “judicial privilege”.
Let’s see if the prosecution panel will follow through since Corona emoluments and allowances were now tackled in Senate.
As I have said,Corona ay “koronang” tinik sa isang matuwid na adhikain, para sa ikabubuti o ika-uunlad ng bansa..Hindi sya tunay na “crown” o honorable, base sa mga naglalabasang mga issues, sa loob ng 29-days na Impeachment proceedings na kaso..Isa syang korona, ipinilit na ilagay o ipinatong sa ulonan (katulad ng Poong HESUS), na napakasakit, at maraming dugo ang dumaloy sa mukha ng “dakilang tagapagligtas” ng mga makasalanan sa mundo.Syay pinilit na maging CJ-Corona ni GMA, para lalong magkaluko-luko ang bansang Pilipinas,at para iligtas lang ang isang pamilya, na Arroyo, hindi ang kapakanan ng taong bayan,.e.g…Kung gaano ang pag-uugali nya,na naglalabasan, di naman pala totoong “honorable”, marami ang madadamay sa kanya, at mahahawa…Pati na ang defense lawyers nya, bandang huli,sa katayuang magagaling na abogado, apiktado sila, at bubulosok, paibaba, katulad ng kanilang ipinagtatangol.
Kay Senador Sonny Trillanes lang, y di naman abogado, tamimi sila, kapag nagsalita at bumuka ang bibig. Magaling sya, kaysa sa mga “expected na mga may pinag-aralang mga abogado”. Sana, ang tanawin o timbangin ng mga defense lawayers, et al ay ang pagbabago sa Pilipinas.Kung hindi mapapalitan si “koronang Tinik”, lalong mahirap makamtan ang naii-ibang mukha ng bansa. Tiyak gaganti yan kapag nagkaroon ng acquittal, lalo lamang lalala ang hidwaan ng SC, Executive, at ang 2-Houses- Senado at Kongreso. Baka ito ang ibig mangyari ni dating, GMA, and Co. kaya may kasamang simoy-hangin na “coup”, galing din daw sa tropa nila sa loob ng halos 10-Taon, at sinang-ayon naman ni dating Senador, ngayon ay Congressman, Gen. Rudy Biazon…tsktsktsk !..
“Yang mga allowance, usually, cash yan, to be spent as you please. Yung rice allowance, for instance, hindi naman nagbibigay ng bigas ang Supreme Court. Hindi rin kailangang ipakita ang recibo.”—sax
Haay, naku, sax, ang babaw naman. Sabi mo pa “hindi kinurakot ang pera”, eh, kinurakot nga. Hindi ba pinalalabas ni Chief Justice sa Impeachment hearing ngayon na P22 million ang naipon niyang income for the last 10 years, kasama na ang mga allowances na iyan at siyang pinambili niya ng mga properties at ang iba ay naroon sa kanyang mga bank deposits?
Hindi naman sinabi ni Chief na piambili niya ng bigas ang mga iyon kundi sabi ni Chief ay income niya raw iyon kaya siya ay nakabili ng mga properties at mayroong mga bank deposits, ‘di ba?
O, ang linaw na kinurakot. Tapos sasabihin mong “failure to disclose ang issue”, eh, nambulsa nga ng mga allowances, ‘di ba?
A very good CPA/lawyer/real estate broker/BIR team could easily analyze and synthesize the Corona couple’s Balance Sheet and Income Statement status every year since whatever year needs to be analyzed.
I hope the prosecution has these skills in their team.
Rappler report sa internet
Pati academic achievements, dinaya ni CJ?
http://abante.com.ph/issue/mar1512/news04.htm
naging baliktoryan? sulotatoryan?
naging agnas kum lawde? suman ni claudia?
naging namber wan sa mga minaster at dinoktor na degrees?
“…………..But he said they haven’t seen each other for 20 years except last Jan. 20 when the Corona couple asked for the original copy of the deed of sale of the property.
Vicente also related that he, accompanied by Mrs. Corona, went to Makati City to have the deed of sale notarized by a certain Atty. Ma. Beatrice Montoya……”
dahil napasalang sa impitsment, kinukuwestiyon ang mga ariarian, BIGLANG naalalang merong kinakapatid makaraan ang DALAWAMPUNG TAON at saka pa lamang ipinanotaryo ang kasunduang bilihan AT hindi pa sa isang awtorisadong notaryo?
ito ang maliwanag na PAGPAPALUSOT ng lubid sa butas ng karayom!
# 49
My point is that offices use many fancy names to give more emoluments to the employees that are not salary, so that it is non-taxable, yet it goes to them in cash.
So yang rice allowance, halimbawa, hindi nga binibili ng bigas yan, it is a cash outlay, no receipts needed.
The RATA, representation and travel allowance, cash kitty talaga yan. Ask any other executive branch officer.
The budget officers do not call the allowances income, for tax purposes, pero kita talaga yan, na binubulsa. Hindi kurakot yan, dahil binibigay sa lahat.
Kung gusto ng prosecution, let them present Carpio. Tignan natin kung maipapakita niyang nag-liliquidate siya.
Bawal ang current justice? So present Artemio Panganiban, to say that he did not pocket the allowances, and he returned it. Better yet, present the Hilarious Divided. Let us talk of his allowances – the ones that were the basis of Gibo’s own impeachment articles.
About kurakot or not, my point is that the prosecutors must determine, are they going only for issue of non-disclosure? Or are they going for the issue of graft and corruption? Or both.
Yon lang ang back and forth namin ni Tongue.
Read the post carefully, instead of just looking for holes because you have the inveterate need to prove me wrong.
# 49
You took my words out of context, just to win the argument.
What I said as the final line of post 32 is:
That was in reference to the Senate leaders (Salonga), who gave us the social amelioration allowance. Na-ameliorate kami, hindi kinurakot ni Salonga ang pera. Binigay sa rank and file.
Tongue, MPRivera, maganda yang na discover nyo na marami palang pekeng credentials si Mang Atong. Gloryang glorya talaga, db? Mana dun sa ninang niyang nag appoint sa kanya sa SC.
That was in reference to the Senate leaders (Salonga), who gave us the social amelioration allowance. Na-ameliorate kami, hindi kinurakot ni Salonga ang pera. Binigay sa rank and file.
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ahh, hindi kinurakot kasi binigay sa rank and file, kaso tawag sa amin dyan misappropriation eh? pero okay lang kasi ameliorate pala…hmmmm…
“You took my words out of context, just to win the argument.”—sax @#54
Haay, naku, sax, mababaw pa rin.
My statement is not out of context with regards yours. Sabi mo kasi “it was given to the rank and file” or, pinambili ng bigas or to that effect, di ba?
Ang sagot ko sa’yo, hindi naman ganun ang sabi ni Chief Justice, at wala siyang sinasabi na binigay sa rank and file. Ang sabi ni Chief ay nakaipon siya ng P22 million sa loob ng sampung taon na galing sa kanyang salaries and other emoluments, kasama na ang mga allowances na pinaguusapan natin, at ang mga iyon ang siyang pinambili niya ng kanyang mga properties at ang iba naka-deposit na pera sa mga banko.
O, paanong naging out of context iyan?
Balik tayo sa usapan sa Impeachment trial. Sabi ni Corona, kaya siya nakabili ng mga properties at mayroong ganoong kalaking deposits sa mga banko ay dahil nakaipon siya ng P22 million, kasama ang mga nasabing allowances, sa loob ng sampung taon sa trabaho niya bilang Chief Justice.
O, maliwanag, ‘di ba, na pinambili ng properties at deniposito sa banko, at hindi naman pinamigay sa mga kawani at hindi pinambili ng bigas.
Iyon ang sabi ni Chief. Ikaw lang, sax, ang nagsasabi na “it was given to the rank and file”, hindi si Chief.
Kaya, ang opinion ko ay kinurakot at ibinulsa ni Chief, na taliwas naman sa opinion mo.
The last word is yours.
It was about Salonga, not about Corona. Lulusot ka pa.
sa aking opinion napakalinaw po na sa reaction at sirkumstansya na nailagak ng Vicente, ay hindi sa kanya ang tunay na pag aari ng lupa.
Una: kung ang bumili ng lupa sa halagang Php 500,000 noon ay nabayaran lahat ang taxes maliban sa transfer tax, at sa kanyang salaysay ay sa broker nya napag-alaman ang binebentang property, di po ba, dapat na assist na sya ng broker sa pagsasalin ng propety sa kanyang pangalan?
Second: hindi po ba dapat ang natural na reaction ay ipalipat agad sa kanyang pangalan ang pagaari? Ang transfer tax po ay napakaliit na halaga, which is at most 1% lang po base sa bilihan, compared to the amount he paid for the property. Ang natural na reaction po para sa akin ay ang mithiing mapasaiyong ganap ang lupa, lalo na po kung ito’y iyong patatayuan ng bahay at mamumuhunan muli ng malaking halaga.
Third: Kung ang bumili, like he claims is very keen on paying for his real property taxes every year, bakit naman po kaya na ang konting halaga na Php 5000 ay napaka mahal para sa kanya at napakahirap gawin? Whenever one pays his taxes yearly, one goes to the local municipality and ask his RPTAP,(assessed payment). It is the same place where he is to pay for his transfer tax. In the long years of paying his RP taxes, why did it not come to mind for him to ask the taxes due for transfer, and discovered from the start that it’s not that expensive like he thought and claims.
Fourth: Sabi po nya, nakapagbenta po sya ng 3.5M property, bumili ng lupa na Php 500,000, at naubos na daw po ang ibang pera sa pagpapagawa ng bahay. For Php 5000 di nya nabayadan ang transfer, whereas I’m sure sa pagpapagawa nya ng bahay ang daming permits na kailangang bayaran sa locality, which I’m sure he did, otherwise he can’t claim his house as his?
Fifth: Kung talaga pong napaka irresponsible o walang panahon ang Vicente not to transfer his property done only once in his lifetime, bakit po napaka responsable naman po nya sa pagbabayad ng taxes, done every year?
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