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Corona brought cousin Demetrio Vicente home in SC car after trial court testimony

Demetrio Vicente inside an SC car
Solar News caught on video defense witness Demetrio Vicente being ferried home by a Supreme Court vehicle after his testimony at the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona Tuesday evening.

Inquirer apologizes to Vicente for the series of photos of him that they used in their Wednesday issue.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/161513/inquirer-apologizes-to-vicente-readers

Solar News video clips showed Vicente inside the beige Toyota Camry 1996 model with a red plate numbered SEJ.953. A red plate means it’s a government vehicle.

Solar News reporter Albert Alicer and his crew took the video of the vehicle as it was leaving the Senate premises.


Marikina City Rep. Miro Quimbo, one of the prosecution spokespersons said “Certainly, the chief justice is entitled to his defense and in fact he has lawyers already defending him. But it is important that just like any person who is a respondent for a case pursuant to the performance of his public functions, you cannot use the resources of your office.”

“The fact that the resources of the Supreme Court is being used to ferry witnesses to and fro, I think this smacks of some violation pertaining to his misuse of government funds when it comes to that,” Quimbo added.

Quimbo further asked that the chief justice consider going on a leave of absence to prevent him from using the resources of his office for his own personal gain.

Entrance to Vicente's place. It's huge!, the Solar News reporter said.
Vicente, a second cousin of Corona, testified that he bought seven parcels of land from the chief justice’s wife, Maria Cristina in 1990 for the sum of P1,018,00.

Solar News also took a photo of the entrance to Vicente’s Marikina property .

Click on photos to view them enlarged.

Published inCorona ImpeachmentSupreme Court

251 Comments

  1. chijap chijap

    I was almost going to say, kamaganak naman so it should be no problem.

    But Quimbo is right, government resources should not be used for this case. Di naman immediate family si Vicente.

    Of course, do we expect Corona to address this? Nope.

  2. daphne18 daphne18

    You all should learn to set aside technicalities for humanitarian reasons. The poor old man has suffered stroke. Do you want him to crawl back to his house? Government vehicles are meant to serve the needy, sick, poor etc. In this case, the vehicle has served its purpose.

  3. chi chi

    Teka, binabawi ko ang previous comment na mukhang hindi dummy ni Corona si Mang Vicente. Kaya ba talaga ng pinsan ni Corona na magpatayo at magpaganda ng kalaking property na ganyan na isang anak lang sa Kuwait ang katulong sa paggastos? Ano ba empleo ni Mang Vicente.

    Ngayon palagay ko ay caretaker lang ni Corona ang pinsan.

    Walang ethics talaga itong thief magistrate, witness nya inihatid ng SC car. Walanghiya!

  4. chi chi

    CJ’s P21M not enough to explain properties: Trillanes
    Senator-judge Antonio Trillanes IV said the P21.63 million that Chief Justice Corona received in 10 years from the Supreme Court may just be enough for his expenses and nothing more. Trillanes said it would be better if Corona himself can testify so he can explain all these things. http://www.abs-cbnews.com

    Swak na swak mo Sen Sonny!

  5. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Di na alam ng Thief Justice kung ano ang tama or Mali.

    Puro Violations na ang mga pinaggagawa ni Thief J. ah. Una Ginagamit niya ang puwesto niya sa mga interview. 2nd ang pag rally at special holiday ng mga kawani. 3rd nag issue ang SC na walang sinuman Kawani ng SC ang haharap sa kaso. 4th ay ang spokeman ng SC ay gamit rin niya (Si Midas touching lagi nasa Senado at nanonood). 5th ngayon isang kawani ng SC ay testigo para sa kanya. 6th sabi nga ni Chi sa itaas na isang caretaker ay testigo rin si Mang Dummytre. 7th ay hatid sundo pa si Mang Dummytre ng sasakyan ng SC.

    Ano ba ito. Hindi ba nakikita ng ilang SC judges at ng Senator Judges ang pinag gagawa at nag bubulagan sila.

    Dapat ay may isang hatol rin sila at patas sa lahat na kung hindi puwedeng mag testigo ang kawani ng SC sa Prosecutors ay hindi rin puwede sa Dependsa.

    Baluktot na ang batas natin ang pinaka mataas pa ang lalong bumabale or binabastos ang batas.

    Hanapin ang mga resibo na pinag gastusan ni Thief J. Kung saan niya dinala. Allowance para sa work iyun at di para sa kanyang pamilya.

  6. sam sam

    sabi ni mr Vicente “binakuran ko yan” .. eh paano nakunan ng picture? tsk tsk … mag pinsan nga sila

  7. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Tama #3, nang binabasa ko ang sinasabi-report ng testigo, na galing sa SC, daming palusot !..Ang haka-haka ni Senador, Sonny Trillanes, ay di malayong totoo..Di na ba nagastusan, kahit “isang kusing” si Corona, at boong-boo ang Php 21milyon, para ipamili ng ari-arian ?..in logic, mahirap paniwalaan, kaya sya dapat ang mag-paliwanag sa Senate Court, hindi mga Tistigo,…alang-alang, sa bansang Pilipinas,…hindi alang-alang sa isang naka-kadudang CJ ?…kahit na ki Demetrio na relative nya, mga pinagsasabi, nakakahilo…katulad na din sa ginagawa ni atty Cuevas, hinihilo ang Senate Court,at prosecutors, ma-itabla o ipanalo lang nya ang “kaharian ng CJ “…grabe, saan na ba talaga ang katutuhanan,at sobra-sobrang niyuyurakan, kapag nabubuking sila ?…God Bless the Philippines, pa din ako..

  8. Di nga nililiquidate yung expenses e. Meron daw kasing Financial at Fiscal Autonomy itong Judiciary. Akala tuloy nila sweldo nila yung allowances. Kung ganoon, sila na ang pinakamalaking sweldo sa burukrasya. Yung pork barrel ipinangalan lang sa elected officials kung kumita man sila dyan patago. Itong kay Corona harap-harapan ang tirada.

    Kaya pala ganun na lang ang pagyuko ni Enrile kay Corona, mas malaki ang sweldo sa kanya. hahaha.

  9. Ellen, diba tama sabi ko? Bonsai kabi-kabila papunta sa main house? Tapos wala raw pambayad sa transfer tax.

    Mang Demet, na-stroke ka na dati, hindi malayong maulit; kung hindi mo pa ipinalilipat yung titulo, kawawa naman yung anak mo kung sakaling dumating ang panahon.

    Ang laki nga ng bahay mo. Itong tinitirhan ko 400 SQM lang meron pang dalawang apartment bukod sa bahay ko. Yang sa iyo, mahigit walong beses ang laki kesa dito. Mahina ang dalawang katulong na tagalinis pa lang ng paligid mo ano?

  10. chi chi

    Mang Dummytre! #4 ni vonjovi. Laglag panga ko sa tawa, :).

  11. chi chi

    Hindi ko mawari kung bakit sa milyunes na biniling property ni Mang Dummytre kay Corona ay walang P200,000 na pang transfer fee. Nakakaduda ito kasi 1990 pa hangga ngayon ay wala syang interes na pangalagaan ang ari-arian nya para ipamana ng walang problema sa mga anak.

    Sa tindi ng utak sa pagnanakaw ni Corona, siguradong kung totoo na binili ni Vicente ang property ay hindi rin mapupunta sa mga anak kung walang titulo. Kung BGEI na korporasyon ay nagawang angkinin at ibenta ng mag-asawag Corona, yan pa kayang lupa na hindi naka-titulo sa bumili?

  12. Rudolfo Rudolfo

    Sa analysis ko ngayon, after the 28days na impeachment, hari-kiri na din ang ginagawa ni Corona, ika nga matira ang matibay ?..tahasan na nyang nilalabas ang mga violations ( gamit ng properties, opportunities, sasakyan, mga tistigo sa kanyang Kaharian, kakutsaba nyang naging miembro ng SC,atty Cuevas, at iba pa..)bilang isang pinagkakatiwalaang CJ-kuno ???..Sa ginagawa ni Corona, nilalabas nya parang isang ” salamin ” sa buong daig-daig, ang hustisya ng Pilipinas, na kayang-kayang bastusin, kapag nasa kamay ang kapangyarihan-power…Ni ayaw mag “leave” man lamang, kaysa sa mag-resign, at patuloy na lumalabag sa pribiliho ng mahistrado, na kitang-kita sa mga litrato sa itaas..Naghahamon na yata din sya ng another Edsa-#3..Dapat, ang Senate Court ay lalong, palawakin ang kanilang pananaw sa bagay na ginagawa ng CJ-kuno ?..

  13. parasabayan parasabayan

    Baka hindi lang Bonsai plants and underground business ni Corona. To have so much money in the bank and have so much assets, baka may mina ng ginto si Corona na hindi natin alam.

  14. parasabayan parasabayan

    If he has any sense of decency, Corona already knows that he is being watched in everything he does, why use the car of the SC to service his cousin? Garapalan na yan. He is so used in leveraging on the resources of his department to his advantage. Sana binigyan na lang niya ng pan-taxi yang pinsan niya.

  15. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Kung ang U.S. ay mayroong MJ (Michael Jordan) na sikat at magaling sa ibang bagay. Dito sa atin ay mayroong tayong panapat ka MJ. Siya ay si TJ (Thief Justice) magaling mag ngurakot sa lahat ng bagay rin.

    Itong mga bataan ni Pandak kapag sa nakawan ay ang gagaling kahit saan lugar ay nakakakuha ng perang makukulimbat. Pero pag nag ka bukuhan or bistado ay ang gagagong mag palusot kahit na isa pa siyang edukadong tao or CJ ay di marunong mag palusot.

    Ay Gago

    Tignan naman ninyo ang upo ni Mang Dummytre sitting pretty sa sasakyan ng gobyerno at may driver pa. ito ang madalas kong sinasabi na kung sino ang “MALI” ay nabibigyan ng parangal sa atin. Kung “TAMA” ay pasensiya ka na lang.

  16. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Teka alam ko na ang palusot ng depensa kung bakit gamit ni Mang Dummytre ang sasakyan ng Gobyerno.

    KASAMA sa allowance at benipisyo ni TJ sa SC iyan.

    Ayan may palusot na sila 🙂

  17. Tedanz Tedanz

    Ako ay kinikilabutan pag naalala ko yong porma ni TJ ni Arroyo na patingala-tingala siya sa langit at sabay taas pa yong dalawang kamay tapos pa-amen pa siya …… tangna niya …. kampon pala siya ni satanas …… leche ….. puweeeee!!!

    Tapos gagamitin yong kerteker/pinsan niyang may sakit …. tuso talaga itong mag-asawang Corona.

  18. Tedanz Tedanz

    At isa pa itong abogago niyang si Roy …. sana naman bago siya mamersonal (“Bald prediction”) tignan niya muna ang itsura niya sa salamin ….. puweeeeee …. kala mo kung sino mukhang bakulaw naman ….. bakulaw … bakulawwwwwwww…. !!!!!

  19. Inquirer apologizes to Vicente and readers for the series of photos which were unkind to Vicente that they used in their Wednesday issue.

    The Inquirer apologizes to its readers who took offense to the newspaper’s use of a series of photographs of a defense witness, Demetrio Vicente, who testified on Tuesday in the Senate impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato C. Corona.

    The Inquirer issued a statement acknowledging that Vicente’s photos, which appeared on the front page of the newspaper’s two-star edition and on Page A20 of its one-star edition on Wednesday, had offended some of its readers.

    “For this, we sincerely apologize. It is not our intention to disparage Mr. Vicente in any way,” the Inquirer said on its official Facebook and Twitter accounts. (The INQUIRER.net earlier on Wednesday posted a brief statement that was issued initially by the paper.)

    In comments posted on the two major social networking sites, a number of readers described as “insensitive,” “tasteless,” “mean” and “cruel” the newspaper’s use of the photographs—as well as the accompanying caption—that tended to highlight the effects of a stroke on the face of the witness.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/161513/inquirer-apologizes-to-vicente-readers

  20. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    I think this cousin of Corona, Demetrio Vicente, is just a caretaker of the property of the Coronas. Why?

    It just doesn’t seem logical that he doesn’t really care much about transferring the property titles now worth millions to his name.

    I don’t buy that excuse that he doesn’t have the money. But let us assume that he really lacked the money. There are 8 lots in that compound filled only with a big house and bonsai trees. He can very easily sell one lot and use the money to pay the transfer tax he needs. And he would still have 7 lots left.

    That’s giving up 1 lot so you can be sure you have titles to the 7 lots.

    Is he willing to do this?

  21. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Yes, I thought the Inquirer’s serial photos of Mr. Vicente was mean.

  22. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    That’s giving up 1 lot so you can be sure you have titles to the 7 lots.

    Is he willing to do this? – Phil

    No, because the real owner is not him (Mang Dummytre). Siguradong naman na alam ni Mang Demet’s ang kaso ng Basa Family na na angkin ang kayamanan at nalipat kay Mr. T J. Iyun lang ay siguradong matatakot na siya talaga at ipa pangalan ni Mang Dummytre ang mga lote sa kanya agad. Pero di nga sa kanya at caretaker lang di ni Mr. TJ.

  23. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    I note an air of growing belligerence in the voice of Cuevas lately. I think he is not used to being questioned in the way and manner he is being questioned by the Senators. Only Enrile and Miriam have given him the bending over reverence he thinks he deserves as former Supreme Court Justice.

    I also think he is getting a little bit uptight. He now feels the pressure to put his client on the witness stand. I am sure he doesn’t want to.

    His client has been making the rounds of media and has been spouting statements which I am sure Cuevas does not approve of. His client is putting Cuevas in a difficult defense position. Thus, the nervousness and short temper displays.

  24. parasabayan parasabayan

    Napuna ko nga rin yun Phil. Cuevas does not crack jokes anymore and rarely smiles now. Used to be, he was so relaxed and patawa-tawa lang. Now he is so serious.

  25. parasabayan parasabayan

    Colletively, I do not think we are mean to Mang Demet. Everything we have spoken so far is that he is just a dummy owner. I share the same opinion too. Twenty two years is too long to have a property one paid for and not legally transferred to the real owner.

    Mang Demet must have been coached extremely well to be able to answer all the queries of the impeachment court. If indeed he is just a dummy, mag-iingat lang siya dahil baka matutukan din siya ng baril kung sakali.

    I actually admire Mang Demet for not cracking under pressure. Kahit na ano pa ang itanong, he could back track and answer well.

    His manner of speaking and the effects of his stroke was never even a factor to his testimony. Those pictures taken of him should not mean we are putting him down. Humanga nga ako sa kanya eh.

  26. I believe the defense used the old man, stroke victim and all, to illicit a particular reaction from the audience. However the prosecution approaches, they will look like the contrabida with a stroke victim being cross examined.
    Shame on these hooligans for using this old man this way!

  27. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    The Senate, through Enrile, reprimanded defense counsel Jose Roy III for practically saying that the Senators were P100 million bribe takers. Enrile was so soft-spoken in that reprimand. Walang fire and brimstone. So different when he and Miriam reprimand the prosecution.

    After the lame reprimand of Enrile, Roy apologized but in a booming arrogant voice and sounded contemptuous of the reprimand. He sounded like he was the one scolding the Senate Court. He still maintained that he was right in what he did..

    The defense lawyers are coming out as mga arogante.

  28. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    At etong si Brenda, flirting, purring and cooing with Congressman Tiangco. At si Tiangco naman got sucked in at the buttering up of his butt by Brenda. Ughh.

    An aged senator and a young congressman in full public display of adolescent behavior.

    These two are two peas in a pod. Both love attention.

  29. Atty. Judd Roy III has some overgrown sense of misplaced entitlement. Bakeet? Porke ba’t anak siya ng isang dating Senator?

    Saka bakit pinalusot yung “inappropriate language” sa Twitter nitong bkulaw na ito? Tawagin ba naman sila Drilon, Osmeña etc. ng kung anu-ano? Do they even know about it?

  30. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    And Caloocan Bishop Deogracias Iñiguez commends Congressman Tiangco for coming out with his revelations.

    The bishop says that an investigation must be initiated on Tiangco’s claim that pork barrel was dangled to force congressmen to sign the articles of impeachment against Corona.

    First things first, dear Bishop. Has the CBCP already investigated those bishops and priests who made those clandestine trips to Malacanang during Gloria’s term? And those big brown envelopes they were carrying out after their visits there?

  31. chijap chijap

    Don’t forget the Pajeros/Monteros 🙂

  32. chijap chijap

    I was not able to watch the whole err Episode, but did anyone bothered to ask Mr. Vicente if he still plan to pursue changing the title to his name? When (is it immediately now that everything is brought out to the open)?

    Or wala syang plano?

  33. duane duane

    @daphne18: kung bata ka pa, pag-aralan muna at isipin ang ano mang argumento. Kung matanda ka na, sorry na lang.

  34. bayonic bayonic

    #28
    Akala ko ba si MDS ang author ng Anti-Epal bill kasi galit sya sa mga umeepal ….. Eh puro pa Epal ang ginagawa sa impeachment court sinanahan pa ng isang Epal na kongresista.

  35. I do not believe that he doesn’t own a car. Or the means to obtain a rented one. He claims his former business was heavy equipment rental. You know, backhoes, graders, bulldozers, loaders, dump trucks, the works. Each of these huge things cost at least a million bucks whether new or dilapidated.

    What do you mean with humanitarian? I’m not an exclusive carnivore or vegetarian/vegan but I do not eat humans so I am not humanitarian. Maybe, vaginatarian. 🙂

  36. BTW, I already received a reply to the message I sent via 2600: “LTO vehicle SEJ953”. The response was:

    “Plate no: sej953/ Make: toyota/ Model: camry/ Year: 1996/ Color: beige/ Registered last: 03/07/2012, has no LTO apprehension, has no LTO alarm.
    P2.50/text..X01”

  37. MPRivera MPRivera

    # 2: “…..The poor old man has suffered stroke. Do you want him to crawl back to his house?…”

    nakabili siya ng milyon milyong halaga ng ariarian, nakatira sa malaking bahay – walang sariling sasakyan?

  38. MPRivera MPRivera

    ‘yung building permit nu’ng bahay ni mang demet na nakatayo sa loteng binili daw niya sa mag-aswang na corona, KANINO nakapangalan?

  39. MPRivera MPRivera

    galing sa kabilang thread:

    “…………..But he said they haven’t seen each other for 20 years except last Jan. 20 when the Corona couple asked for the original copy of the deed of sale of the property.

    Vicente also related that he, accompanied by Mrs. Corona, went to Makati City to have the deed of sale notarized by a certain Atty. Ma. Beatrice Montoya……”

    dahil napasalang sa impitsment, kinukuwestiyon ang mga ariarian, BIGLANG naalalang merong kinakapatid makaraan ang DALAWAMPUNG TAON at saka pa lamang ipinanotaryo ang kasunduang bilihan AT hindi pa sa isang awtorisadong notaryo?

    ito ang maliwanag na PAGPAPALUSOT katulad ng sapilitang paghila ng lubid upang lumusot sa butas ng karayom!

  40. dan1067 dan1067

    #37 sa sinabi ni tatang Demetrio na nagmamay ari siya ng heavy equipment rentals e napaka imposible yatang nakaligtaan niyang bumili kahit second hand lang na kotse para sa sarili niyang lakad.

  41. vic vic

    So plate number still colour coded for id who is the occupants on them..like number one or 8…and where did the Equality provision of the Constitution went? Well, we don’t really mind issuing Diplomatic License plate and for Dealers so they can attached them to every car for test driving but for citizens to identify them among equals? Might as well suggest our PM will have his official plate replaced with purple colour with number 2 (the Governor general being number 1) instead of Random number issued by the Transport ministry or for a minimum of $250 his very own vanity plate (that too is vetted if not offensive word or combination of words in any language…)

  42. Robert Robert

    “You all should learn to set aside technicalities for humanitarian reasons. The poor old man has suffered stroke. Do you want him to crawl back to his house?”—daphne18

    daphne, you missed the point big.

    The poor sick old man was being utilized and exploited by the Chief Justice to save his skin. The Chief Justice with so much allowances he can afford his own cars, properties, and bank deposits, should have the decency to provide the sick old man with the latest model of any brand of car for his transport to the Senate to save his skin, not government car, ‘di ba?

  43. chi chi

    #35. Sa ganda ng kyang kalaki-laking property na napapaligiran ng mamahaling bonsai sino ang maniniwala na wala si Mang Demet na kahit isang tumatakbong kotse?

    #2. Misplaced compassion na naman ito kaya ang Pinas ka-hirap umasenso.

    Si theif magistrate Coronado Corona ang bulyawan mo dahil sya ang exploiter ng caretakers at relatives.

    #42. Agree, Robert. Corona should have rented the least if not bought a new one for Mang Demet’s use for using him good.

    Corona’s series of kapalpakan in public display that make Cuevas grumpy. Outside of his expertise na ito sa remedial law, hindi na kayang takpan.

  44. ningcho ningcho

    sabi ni cuevas si lolo deme na ang may ari ng mga lupa na yun kc may absolute deed of sale na si lolo deme.kaya wala na sa SALN ni corona. tapos dun naman sa isang condo unit na wala rin sa SALN ni corona , hindi daw kay corona yun kasi absolute deed of sale pa lang ang hawak nya? HUH???? anu ba talaga cuevas, ang gulo mong kausap eh. ulyanin ka na ba?

  45. chi chi

    ningcho, you got an excellent observation there. Hilo na ang master lawyer kasi hilong-talilong na sa kadisperuhan ang kliyente.

  46. hawaiianguy hawaiianguy

    And what do you expect of Cuevas? Uugod ugod na siya, di ba? Siyempre, marami na yun malilimutan.

  47. hawaiianguy hawaiianguy

    Teka teka, ano ba ang trabaho ni Lolo Demet, lalo na nung bilhin nya ang lupa ni Corona? Kung wala eh, di kaduda duda na nga. Pero sabi ng ibang senador ok daw naman siya at tila hindi dummy.

  48. baguneta baguneta

    kapatid ni Atty. Judd Roy III ang isa sa may-ari ng Channel 7. Kaya pala dun lagi nag papainterbyu si Corona eh.

  49. “You all should learn to set aside technicalities for humanitarian reasons. The poor old man has suffered stroke. Do you want him to crawl back to his house?”—daphne18
    ———————————-

    oo nga naman pala, hindi FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY ang government vehicles kundi FOR OFFICIAL USE ALSO. 🙂

    grabe naman magtipid tong si corona, ayaw gumastos ng gas, kaya taumbayan na lang ang gagastos, hehehehe

  50. daphne, okay sana kung itong si deme ay nasagasaan lang dyan sa kalye, tapos hinintuan ng government vehicle tapos sinakay at dinala sa ospital, humanitarian reason yun, pero ginamit sa pang personal na pangangailangan ni renato eh, meron naman siyang sariling kotse, ano yanng supreme court na yan – sarili niyang kaharian?

  51. What do you mean with humanitarian? I’m not an exclusive carnivore or vegetarian/vegan but I do not eat humans so I am not humanitarian. Maybe, vaginatarian.
    – tt
    ————————

    hanggang pantasya ka na lang alam ko. hehehe

  52. Lacson and Osmeña separately said they found the old man credible. Osmeña intimated he has even conducted a discrete investigation on his own of the man and the questioned property. Drilon and Pangilinan are not saying anything. Have they shifted allegiance?

  53. As far as I know, stroke victims avoid driving if they could because stroke damages reflexes and the responsiveness of the side affected. It affects a driver’s control over the accelerator, the brakes, the clutch and the shifter depending on which side took the toll.

  54. How did the witnesses for the prosecution come and leave? In their own private cars?

    There must be a binding rule for both sides.

    Corona might reason out he’s just being consistent with his belief that it is the entire SC that is being attacked.

  55. ricelander, That excuse that the whole SC is being attacked didn’t fly. He already destroyed that postulation when he himself openly attacked his colleagues esp. Carpio and Sereno. He even included the Firm, when Carpio has long been serving in the Supreme Court.

    If there’s any attacking ongoing, it’s Corona.

  56. What do you mean “hanggang pantasya”? Believe me, I may be taking blood thinners and blood vessel relaxants but it still salutes the flag fullmast in the morning. It may be difficult but it’s hard heheh.

    Btw, I also said vaginatarian, didn’t I? Read between the lines.[wink]

  57. baguneta baguneta

    “but it still salutes the flag fullmast in the morning”

    Kasi naiihi hehehe

  58. ricelander, That excuse that the whole SC is being attacked didn’t fly…

    That’s your opinion.

    That the whole SC is being attacked is also his opinion. I do not necessarily agree.

    You can argue all your lifetime about the merits of your opinion and so can he. And that is why I was saying, to be fair, there must be a ruling as to whose responsibility is the transport of the witnesses of both sides.

  59. everybody can have an opinion, even a five year old is free to have one.
    but if the only one that values your opinion is you and your mother – better luck next time, your credibility sucks.

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