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Buko talk

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Much as I’d like to join in the excitement of President Aquino over the interest of American businessmen in coconut water or buko juice, I have my reservations.

Upon his arrival from the United States, where he attended the official launch of the Open Government Partnership in New York – an initiative by US President Barack Obama and Brazil President Dilma Rouseff to promote transparency in governance, the President waxed ecstatic about the information that the Americans have discovered the joys of drinking buko juice, something that Filipinos have been doing since time immemorial.

“Drinking what they call coco water and what we call buko juice is a growing trend in the US. Because of its nutrients, because it is natural and environment friendly, it is becoming the new natural sports drink in America and is now a hundred-million-dollar industry,” he said.

He continued, “Doesn’t it sometimes go to waste? Who would have thought we could earn from it and use it to uplift the lives of many Filipinos in the provinces.”

Aquino even showed the Vita coco drink that Madonna and pop star endorses. Madonna, by the way, has a $10 million investment in the drink.

Information from the US Department of Agriculture showed that fresh buko juice has no cholesterol, is low in fat, and contains anti-oxidants, calcium, copper, ron, magnesium, manganese, and vitamins. It is diuretic. It is good for washing away kidney stones.

One of the joys of going home to our barrio in Guisijan, Antique is drinking fresh coco water we call butong.

Our coconut in Antique are as tall as twenty feet. Everytime I ask someone to climb the coconut tree for the buko, it comes with a prayer that the climber be safe.

When we get the coconut, it is the whole branch we call “baryubay” with several fruits. The whole branch is lowered through a rope because it is important that they are not dropped to the ground forcefully or else they won’t last long. If they are lowered down properly, they can last for a week.

But before a whole branch is harvested, the climber first drops one fruit to find out if the meat is thick yet soft enough for harvesting. It should not be too young or too mature. The ones used for fruit salad gives the most delicious buko juice.

If the meat is too thick, it would be used for “bokayo” or “bandi” (coconut sweet).The juice is not too sweet anymore.

The coco juice is best when you drink it straight from the fruit. It’s just like juicing fresh fruits. You do it when you are ready to drink. Storing it in the refrigerator would mean loss of some of the nutrients.

The downside of constant harvesting of coconut fruit for coco juice is that the quantity of coconut for copra would be reduced. For copra, the meat has to be very mature. The juice however is thrown away because they don’t taste good. Are these the ones referred to by the President?

Copra is used in the manufacturing of soap and oil. It’s a multi-billion peso industry that has made tons of money for Marcos and his friends like Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco.

I’m a bit worried that the President’s fascination about buko juice might give rise to a coco juice business but would destabilize the whole coconut industry.

These are just musings from a butong (coco juice) drinker who is not into business.

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  1. Ano ba iyan. Bakit kailangan pang ang buko ay mapunta sa Amerika. Puwede naman dito sa ating bansa. Bakit ang Amerika pa ang makikinabang sa kita ng produkto na mula sa ating bansa. Kung magtagumpay nga ang buko sa amerika paano na ang produkto na nakukuha sa niyog na binibilad sa araw tapos ipakilo na ang tawag dito sa amin ay “luget”. Iyon bang ginagawa na oil. Hindi ba naisip ng mga tao na mataas ang katungkulan sa gobyerno na kung makilala nga ang buko ay tataas ang presyo ng oil.

  2. Hihina ang copra kung ipalaganap ang buko sa Amerika dahilan para tumaas ang presyo ng oil. Buong bansa ang maaapektuhan kung tumaas ang presyo ng oil kumpara sa mga tao na ang hanapbuhay ay dahil sa niyog. Isipin muna kung may masama bang epekto para sa bansa bago imungkahi ang buko juice.

  3. Samahan pa ng walang tigil na pamumutol ng puno ng niyog tapos ang buko juice kung halimbawa man ay iyon ang eexport. Paano na ang kopra, wala na. Sa pagtaas ng presyo ng oil ay tiyak pagtaas din ng presyo ng pagkain na ginagamitan ng oil. Paano na ang mahilig kumain ng crispy chicken. Sa halagang 10 pesos o 12 pesos sa isang piraso ay baka umabot ng 15 pesos kasi sasabihin ay mahal ang bili ng oil.

  4. Hindi yan ang investment na kailangan natin galing sa US. There’s a very big void that needs to be filled in the US that’s just too big for us to handle. We just need a portion of it.

    Institutional investors in Wall Street need an instrument by which the dollars they now hoard and would not gamble on business there, are stuck with few options while waiting for future maturity dates to deliver to their clients their promised returns on money they cannot even invest. The US financial market is presently very volatile – ditto Europe – which is complicating things further.

    The low interest rate regime isn’t working in stimulating traditional job-makers to put money in new factories worsened further by deadlock politics fueled by financial lobbyists to bring back the glory days of gray money that saw the US economy spiral in the last four years. Not to mention debt problems in Europe and their double-figure unemployment.

    While our immediate neighbors are capitalizing on these needs, the latest BSP figures indicate the net outflow of hot money, meaning the money-earning-money is going to our neighbors, again!

    What we need to do is get our act in order. First, get rid of the bogey that mining is destructive. Almost all the minerals in the planet can be found here – from iron to uranium. Imagine the jobs that can be created, we would one day see no more need for our women to take care of other families’ children while neglecting their own. If only we are serious in implementing environment laws, then the ills of mining can be avoided. They can do it in Australia, Indonesia, hey, even Africa. Why can’t we?

    Next, remove the Malaysians, Australians, and Americans from the MILF-GRP negotiations table. They have interests not necessarily complementing either side, Malaysia suspiciously even seems to sabotage it.

    Thirdly, improve our banking controls that only legit money are transacted. European banks have tried but failed to get the country clean up its banking system they all left just a few years after starting up and moved to compliant countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand.

    Get more competent government technocrats than we have now. There’s a lot of Pinoys in top directorial/management posts in international conglomerates. We just need to give them attractive compensation packages to return and work here. That’s the big difference between Putot and Noynoy. Putot had top bankers/analysts Vince Perez, Joey Salceda, Lito Camacho, among others map out her plans and it looked good… though, just on paper. While Noynoy gets successful CEOs from their posts and appoints them where? To Phil. Embassies abroad! Think Joey Cuisia and Manolo Lopez.

  5. Sa walang tigil na pamumutol ng puno ng niyog. Pagkuha ng bunga ng niyog na para sa buko juice ay paano na ang para sa kopra na gagawin para sa oil. Paano pa kung ang presyo ng isang niyog na para sa buko juice ay mas mahal kahit isang piso lang kumpara sa isang niyog din na para sa kopra. Ang mga may niyog ay ibebenta na lang ang bunga para sa buko juice kasi mahal ng kahit piso ang presyo bawat isa.

  6. Before I forget, I failed to enumerate the need to bring down the Power Rate to a competitive one. This is a major, major beef with foreign businesses. Power investors are flocking here not because of the need but of the killing they can make. They construct mainly thermal plants based on dirty bunker and sulfur-laden coal for a quick gestation period and avail of the present high rates.

    But this will not bring the costs down. It will become more expensive in the long run due to the after effects (health and natural destruction) and government will indirectly shoulder this cost. What to do? Raise more taxes?

    The government should start encouraging more GREEN power projects by means of tax cuts/holidays and other perks. It will be future savings well invested today. And everybody benefits, especially new job-generating plants.

  7. MPRivera MPRivera

    Thanks, Dr. Tongue for your bayagnosis, este diagnosis and proposed cure.

    It is the system and people running all departments that should be rehabilitated and the greed of the moneyed who do not want to share their wealth and instead want to see our poor crawl in poverty while raking tons of profits.

    Sana, isa ka sa mga nasa bureaucracy para masolusyunan ang mga problema ng bansa although you cannot do any miracle overnight especially if you are alone in what you believe is right.

  8. chi chi

    Tree of life na yaman ng Pinas buti napansin din na magbibigay investment at trabaho sa pinoy. Isang taon lang si Pnoy sa tanggapan kaya okay pa sa palagay ko na ibigay sa kanya ang pinakamalaking investment na nakuha nya sa America, salamat din kay Madonna at Rihanna naging malaking balita sa bansa. Yehey! 🙁

  9. From Fernando Seno:

    Hingil sa kolum mo sa niyog, ang tubig ng matandang niyog ngayon sa cebu hindi na itinapon dhil pwede na itong gawing suka.

    May nagsabi nga na dapat niyog na lang ang ginawang national tree o national fruit dahil wala ng maitapon.

  10. Ang daming produkto ang magagawa sa coconut tree. My friend who is a geologist from France says his company imports coconut coir (fiber from dried husks and trunks) and rolled into large sheets are used to prevent soil erosion in sloping sites. He said he is dumbfounded to read news about Pinoys getting killed in landslides despite the abundance of erosion-mitigating materials. This is a good way of recycling old coco trees that need to be cut down. Wala talagang tapon sa niyog.

    Also, the Nata de Coco is fast disappearing from supermarket stalls because high grade nata is bought in bulk by semiconductor manufacturers to produce bacterial cellulose to make the micro-filtration process more economical. Nata de Coco’s superior tensile strength means cheaper processing cost since the filter medium isn’t easily destroyed.

    Trivia : The hi-fi diaphragms in most expensive microphones and headphones use bacterial cellulose from Nata de Coco. All high-end Sony headphones use it.

  11. Inquirer’s Amando Doronila amd Malaya’s editorial yesterday said the same thing about buko juice economics and the reality of sliding growth. Year on year, we fell from about 18% to just 4% in June. The spike last year is understandable being an election year. But the big differential is surely unpalatable to businessmen who blame the slow grind of govt money dispensing to Noynoy’s financial team.

    I’m specifically irked by Abad who justifies the low budget for education by saying that Ateneo and De La Salle are better-funded but they dropped and remained low in the QS ratings unlike UP. What an asshole.

    Cory’s admin allowed the cost of tuition to rise exponentially, killing the College Insurance industry. Low subsidies for State Us and Colleges means even these institutions will be forced to raise tuition. UP these days cost almost as much as private Us, without the injection of new funds, UP will surely increase tuition for it to maintain its already faltering standards or worse, just to survive.

    Why is this being done? Education is the best of all investments especially for a country that depends on OFW remittances to fuel its economy. Why is college education so expensive and out of reach of the ordinary Pinoy?

    Because the Cojuangcos own FEU?

  12. Clarification: Although FEU belongs to Nicanor Reyes’ family, Cory’s elder sis, Josephine, who is married to a Reyes, was the University’s president at the time Cory was in Malacañang.

  13. srcitizen2000 srcitizen2000

    Sana yung pagkakamulat ni Pnoy na me pera pala sa buko, kahit huli na ay magbukas sa mata ng lahat na nakakapit sa pundilyo niya. Matagal nang maraming nakakaalam na “THE COCONUT IS THE TREE OF LIFE” hindi dahil nagpapahaba ito ng buhay kundi dahil halos lahat ng parte ng punong ito ay may pakinabang. Bilyong piso ang kikitain ng Pinas Kong Mahal kung pagtutuunan lang ng potential ng puno ng niyog. yun lang mga produkto sa cocochemical processing ay napakalaking potential, bukod pa ito sa cococarbon na gamit sa activated carbon na kailangan ng maraming industriya and other 1,001 and ways na maaaring gawin sa niyog.

    Kung gusto ng gobyernong makasalba ang milyon-milyong pilipino sa kahirapan ay dapat maging national slogan natin ay: ‘IT’S AGRICULTURE STUPID” Yung CCT halimbawa ay mas maraming pakinabang kung ibubuhos lang iyong budget bilang puhunan para sa agro-processing. Yung TESDA sa halip na mga training para sa prospective OFW na magpapa-alila lang sa mga dayuhan bakit hindi ibuhos sa food processing at iba pang skills development para magbigay ng mas mataas na value added sa produkto ng agrikultura? Hindi kapus sa pera ang gobyerno, ang problema lang parang hindi alam gamitin sa mas pakikinabangang gawain.

  14. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    We should be thankful that there is an additional global product and market segment for the coconut.. aside from the scores and scores of products the tree of life is already producing. No other tree can produce so many different products like the coconut tree.

    We are the No. 1 producer of coconuts in the world. Indonesia is second. India is only third.

    What I am more worried about is that our coconut industry will again get mismanaged, our coconut farmers again exploited (coco levy,remember?), and die a natural death with Indonesia and India, etc, etc..making headway to answer the global demand for all these coco products.. while we again sleep it off..Zzzzzzz…..

  15. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Only one who does not use his coconut will tout the buko juice industry as an achievement. Where in God blazes does the President find his people?

    I was in disagreement with the Glue’s touting alleged investments every time she went abroad. The President is the Head of State, so every once in a while, he visits other states. Kayo ba, inaasahan niyong sa bawat dalaw ng inyong Tatay sa kapitbahay may inuuwing regalo galing sa kapitbahay? Part of foreign relations yang mga bisi-bisita, and it should not be equated with the “achievement” of more investments, more loans, or both. As the Malaya editorial said, the President is not a salesman. To expect him to “bring home the bacon” is demeaning of the office, regardless of the occupant, whether Erap, Cory, or PNoy.

    Saan ba napulot yang mga chipipay na mga alalay na yan? The wine sucks; the wine taster, even more so.

  16. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Anyway, an opportunity is an opportunity. And with this expected global demand for our coco products, prices of nuts will get more expensive. So better plant a few trees in your backyard and in your vacant lots and in your farms already.

    Ultimately, other countries will increase their production of coconut trees and serve that additional demand if we don’t. Opportunity lost once again for a country whose land and tropical climate are just right for growing this miracle tree.

  17. MPRivera MPRivera

    Kailangan lang na turuan ng makabagong teknolohiya ang ating mga coconut farmers gayundin ang matamang pag-ayuda ng gobyerno upang huwag namang palaging napag-iiwanan ng ating mga kalapit bansa.

    Tama na rin ang sobrang land conversion katulad ng ginagawa ng kompanya ni Mr. Swimming in the Sea of Trash. Hangga’t hindi nawawala ang mga suwapang na masalapi na’y gustong ‘yung sa iba ay kanila pa ay wala talagang mangyayaring pag-usad pasulong ang ating bansa,puro na lang paatras.

  18. chi chi

    Ellen, ang virgin coco de crema ay aking pampakinis balat-mukha. I spread a little over my face every morning. Hindi ko lang alam ay kung epektib at mas mukha na akong bata kay Yuko who is forever young, hahaha!

    Wala talagang maitatapon sa coconut tree.

    Tongue, kailangan ko ang coco coir for my slopy areas in the mountains, ang galing sigurado nyan sa pagkontrol ng erosion.

    Dapat ang mga bata na delinquents ay parusahan na paggawin ng coco coir, bayaran ng tama, kesa palayawin ng DSWD o ikulong basta.

  19. MPRivera MPRivera

    chi, kaya pala mukhang fresh and sweet ka palagi. ang inaalala ko lang ay baska bandang huli ay magmukha kang minatamis na bao o kaya’y bukayo.

    siguradong lalanggamin ka!

  20. MPRivera MPRivera

    “…….ang inaalala ko lang ay BAKA bandang huli ay magmukha kang minatamis na bao o kaya’y bukayo.”

    hahabulin ka ng mga kelots na langgam!

  21. chi chi

    #22. Mags, bwahahaha ka talaga! Speaking of bukayo, I bought a seem-like-bukayo Mexican made…. sus walang binatbat sa bukayong pinoy. Kahit bukayo ng Vietnam at Indo, nada sila sa atin minatamis na niyog. Dapat pagtuunan din nila ng pansin ang paggawa nyan at export. Sawaaaap na tunay!

  22. parasabayan parasabayan

    I buy the real buko here. I know that it is fresh. Medyo mahal nga lang but I prefer to buy th real one.

    The coconut growers should really weigh in on which one gives them a better return on their investment.

  23. parasabayan parasabayan

    One of my colleagues was given a facial cream made of coconut oil be his dermatologist. His skin improved a lot! He just does not like the smell of the cream, he said.

  24. parasabayan parasabayan

    Agree ako kay Tougue. The mining industry, when regulated well, will give us more money in our pockets. The small mining operators should be regulated as well as these are the ones operating without the proper procedures giving all mining companies a bad reputation.

  25. Thanks for the concurrence, psb. Kaya lang ginawa mo akong toge. Lol. Paborito ko yung nilumpyang toge kaso di na mailuto ngayon dahil bawal kay Mama Mia at Esmi ang mataas na uric acid content.

    Goodbye na rin tuloy ra peborit kong ginisang munggo na maraming tinapa flakes at lumulutang na bagnet kasama ng talbos ng ampalaya. Kakagutom.

  26. MPRivera MPRivera

    Kahit i-regulate pa ‘yan kung ang mag-o-operate ay mga dayuhan ay hanggang sa pasahod lamang ang aasahan ng ating mga kababayang nagtatrabaho sa minahan. Sa halip na kaunlaran ay pagkawasak ng kapaligiran at panganib sa kalusugan ang idinudulot ng iresponsableng pagmiminang binigyan na nga ng permit ay hindi naman tumutupad sa environmental protection and preservation. Ang concern lang ng mga ‘yan ay kumita ng limpak. Saka mukhang wala naman yatang pumapasok sa kaban mula diyan sa pagmimina at ang nakikinabang na lamang ay ‘yung mga kakutsabang tiwaling opisyales, eh.

    Huwag nating kalimutan ang ating mga kababayang naging biktima ng pagwawalambahala ng mga dayuhang mining companies tulad sa Marinduque.

    Bakit hindi na lamang magsamasama ang mayayaman nating kababayan upang sila ang mamuhunan sa pagmimina nang sa gayon ay hindi na lalabas pa ng bansa ang yamang nakukuha sa ating mga kabundukan? O, kung hindi naman ay mismong pamahalaan ang mamuhunan at ipasailalim sa kinauukulang ahensiya upang sa gayon ay matutukan ang pangangalaga sa kapaligiran? Bakit kailangang iasa pa sa mga dayuhan ang pag-o-operate ng minahan kung sigurado namang merong makukuhang minerals upang pakinabangan ng ating bansa?

  27. parasabayan parasabayan

    Slip of the finger Tongue.

    Yummy yang munggo na may ampalaya and bagnet! The best!

  28. parasabayan parasabayan

    Magno, walang problema sa mining kahit na dayuhan ang magmimina. Basta may check and balance lang tayo. Di ba controlling pa rin ang Pinoy kahit na may dayuhan? Mas gugustuhin ko na lang ang well managed na Mining company na kahit na dayuhan kesa sa mga government corporations natin na walang alam kundi magnakaw sa kaban ng bayan. Pnoy may be straight but the vultures in the government are so embedded in our rotten system that purging them will take a generation. I bet you Pnoy will eventually give in to these vultures one of these days. Marunong silang mang-ipit, sa totoo lang. Tathitahimik lang sila ngayon but watch in a few more months, maghahariharian na naman ang mga magnanakaw.

  29. Malaking pagkakamali yang sinasabi mo Mags na suweldo lang ang pakinabang sa minahan at quarrying kung dayuhan ang magpapatupad. Ang downstream industries na lokal ay malaki ang pakinabang sa pagmimina. Lalo pa’t all-time high ang presyo ng ginto at mga mineral na apaw ang dami sa Pinas.

    Ang dati kong mga kumpanyang pinasukan ay malaki ang kinita nung malakas pa ang pagmimina nung 70s – 80s. Humina ito nung pasukin ang gobyerno ng mapagpanggap na mga environmentalists kuno pero merong mga sariling agenda.

    Maraming success stories sa paligid pero isi-share ko yung first-hand na alam ko. Kagaya nung kaibigan kong dating ahente lang ng Off-road tires (P30K to P150K ea.) na gamit ng mga excavator, loader, bulldozer, backhoe, dumptruck, truck tractor at iba pang earth-moving equipment ay siya na ang distributor kaya mayaman na ngayon.

    Yung isa ko pang kapwa-empleyado rin dati, vulcanizing/repair ng conveyor belts at supplier ng conveyor rollers, milyunaryo na rin. Tuwing magpapalit ng rubber conveyor sa minahan, ipinatatawag siya upang pagdugtungin ang magkabilang dulo ng continuous belt. Splicing kit pa lang milyon na ang halaga, maliban pa yung belt mismo.

    Yung dati naming ahente ng Westinghouse motors, may sariling kumpanya na rin at exclusive supplier ng malalaking motor (500HP and up) para sa mga Ball Mill at SAG mill na pandurog ng bato para humiwalay ang bato sa mineral. Rewinding lang, milyunan ang halaga. Jackpot kung bibili ng bagong motor.

    Sa linya ko naman, kaya kong magdesign at gumawa ng starters at controls niyang mga Medium at High Voltage na gamit sa post-extraction. Hindi lang dalawampung tao ang kayang bigyan ng trabaho sa ganyang factory, maganda rin ang kita.

    Hindi tayo binigyan ng ganyang yaman ng Diyos upang bulukin lamang sa ilalim ng lupa. Lahat ng bagay na ginawa Niya ay may mahalagang papel para sa mahabang pamamalagi ng mundo. Sustainable life on earth, ‘ika nga. Kung hihintayin lang nating malaglag yung bunga ng puno papunta sa ating bibig ay hindi ito mangyayari kailanman. Kaya huwag sana nating sayangin ang pagkakataon.

    Lahat ng bagay kailangang gawin ng maayos, maging sari-sari store man yan o minahan. Meron namang batas ang tao at Diyos para magawa iyan ng tama. Nasa atin na rin ang ikabubuti natin. Tignan natin ang experience ng ilang bansa.

    Hindi yayaman ang Australia kung nagpadala sila sa mga aktibistang pananakot ang ikinakalat. Dalawa sa pinakamalaking minahan sa mundo, ang BHP at Billiton na kapwa-Australyanong kumpanya, ay nagsanib pa upang lalong makatugon sa pangangailangan ng mundo lalo na ng Asia, una na ang China. Kaya naman mas mataas na ngayon ang Aussie Dollar sa US Dollar.

    Hindi matatapos ang Apartheid sa South Africa kung hindi sila yumaman sa pagmina ng langis, ginto at brilyante. Kung mahirap pa rin ang mga itim doon, tiyak slave laborers pa rin sila hanggang ngayon.

    Hindi aangat ang ekonomiya ngayon ng Chile kung hindi nila minimina, halimbawa, ang abundant na lithium na pangunahing material sa pag-gawa ng lithium ion batteries (para sa cellphone, camera at ibang gadgets) na mas mahaba ang charge life at mas murang i-produce kesa sa Nickel Cadmium at Nickel Metal Hydride. Lalo na’t papunta na tayo sa mga uri ng sasakyan na hybrid na tumatakbo sa electrical + fossil fuel. Ito ay isang produktong mas lalo pang magiging mahalaga sa darating na bukas.

    Mahabang listahan ito kung iisa-isahin kong lahat. Ang bottom line nito ay hindi tayo umuunlad dahil nagpapadala tayo sa takot ng bagay na di naman natin inaalam talaga. Isang maling paniniwala’t kaugaliang ipinamana sa atin ng mga Kastila upang manatiling mangmang ang mga indiong salat sa edukasyon.

    Ang pagmimina, ay masama kung hindi gagawin ang isinasaad ng batas. Kumpleto naman tayo sa batas. Masama lang kung kasabwat sa panloloko at pagsuway ang mga politikong bayaran. Kung tututukan lamang ito ng mamamayan, kasama ng matitinong lider ng gobyerno, pakikinabangan ito ng husto, gaya na nang naging experience ng ibang bansa. Ang Japan ay (relatively) walang natural resources pero maunlad sila dahil matitino ang taumbayan at gobyerno.

    Kung kawatan ang nagpapatupad ng batas, sindikato lang ang mamumuhunan sa iyo.

  30. MPRivera MPRivera

    Totoong mayaman sa natural and mineral resources ang Pilipinas at ang kailangan nga natin ay isang responsableng pamamaraan kung paano pakikinabangan ang mga likas na yaman kalakip ng pagmamalasakit sa kapaligiran gayundin sa kapakanan ng mga naninirahan upang hindi maulit ang pangyayaring katulad ng sa Marinduque kung saan ay naging biktima ang mga kawawang mamamayan bunga ng kapabayaan ng mining company na nag-o-operate sa naturang lugar.

    Walang taong hindi gustong makaahon sa kahirapan lalo’t nasa tinutuntungang lupa lamang ang pagkukunan subalit kung ang mangingibabaw ay ‘yung interest ng mga gahaman siguro nga ay mas maigeng mabulok na lamang sa lupa ang likas na yamang ‘yan. Dahil nga sa kasibaan ng ilan kaya nangyayari ang nakapangingilabot na bunga ng mga kalamidad kung saan ang nagdurusa at tinatamaan ng kamalasan ay ‘yung mga walang kinalaman. Patunay na nga diyan ang mga bagyong nagdaang tumangay sa kabuhayan at kumitil ng maraming buhay.

    Kung kailan magkakaroon ng tunay na malasakit ang LAHAT na namumuno at kinauukulan ay isang malaking katanungan at parang namamana tayo ng lamok sa pusikit na kadiliman.

  31. From Phil Cruz (inadvertently posted in preceeding thread):

    And with this additional good news about the coconut, demand will increase and prices of nuts will get more expensive. So better plant a few trees in your backyard and in your vacant lots and in your farms already.

  32. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    Thanks, Ellen. I planted that coconut in the wrong backyard.

  33. As corrected by Goldy Chan:
    I take the articles of Rigoberto Tiglao, who has been the mouthpiece of a thief, with a grain of salt.
    But his column on Aquino’s buko juice discoverry is interesting:

    President Aquino last week raved over what he thought was buko juice from our country that is a fad in gyms in the United States. He proudly brandished, the way Madonna did, in press conferences in the US and in Manila the two brands of the coconut-water beverage popular in the US: Coco Vita and O.N.E. (for Organic Natural Energy).

    Unfortunately for us, both are Brazilian drinks, widely known in the US as such, except to Mr. Aquino and his party. Ira Liran, one of the two owners of Coco Vita, got interested in the drink (agua de coco), which was the favorite of a Brazilian beauty he met at a Manhattan bar, who would later on be his wife. His company has been getting for the past eight years all of its coconut water from his spouse’s country…

    One could just dismiss Mr. Aquino’s endorsement as just another hilarious boo-boo, if not for that worrying question created: “What next would his officials tell him to say or do?” This is a President who is easily impressed and desperate to claim achievements or too lazy to check what his officials are telling him to do or say. It was apparently Communications Secretary Ricky Carandang who got him all excited about coco water, and claimed that Pepsi was so gung-ho over the Aquino presidency that it would be investing $15 million for a buko juice project…

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/13023/aquino-endorses-brazilian-drinks

  34. MPRivera MPRivera

    totoo ba ire?

    wow! si PeNoy pinatalon sa patag, tumalon naman.

    pati tayo dito, nagkarambol rambol na.

    paano tayong makakabangon kung ganyang babasahin na nga la’ang ang nakasulat ya hindi pa binasa at itong pinagsabihan ay basta na la’ang bumunghalit na magandang pagkakakitaan ‘yung akala niya ay galing sa Pinas na buko dyus?

    dapat siguro ay gawing department of misinformation ang opis ni ricky.

  35. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    This columnist, Roberto Tiglao, a Gloria horn tooter, has nothing good to say about Aquino or his administration. Same with columnist Armando Doronila. Or Carmen Pedrosa.

    So yes, I take whatever they say with a heaping dosage of salt.

    Pres. Aquino was endorsing a product which came from the coconut tree.. of which we are the top producer in the world but which we simply failed to take advantage of as a health drink for the world. A foreign company did. Now we stand to benefit from it if we produce the same drink. We can produce for them. We can put up our own. We can promote it on our own.

    Even if Aquino promoted a foreign product, Noynoy did a hell of a job promoting the potential of it for the Philippines. We and the coconut farmers and its related upstream and downstream industries stand to earn millions and millions in the future.

    And that’s a negative? Tiglao?

  36. Phil Cruz Phil Cruz

    A glass is 90% full. But some people just want to see the 10% na kulang pa.

  37. Generating employment in the rural areas, improving the quality of life, eliminating reasons for joining insurgencies, decreasing migration from the countryside, and because its agricultural in nature, will encourage sustainable practices that will preserve nature.
    Looking at the banana and pineapple plantations in the south, this could be a good idea. The visayas region would benefit from this as it seems to be a good place for coconuts.
    With proper planning, bananas/pineapples from the south, coconuts from the visayas, and rice from luzon.
    Another product from coconut that is showing promise in the export market is virgin coconut oil.
    Made in the Philippines with minimal and if properly done, no damage to the environment.

  38. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    The downside of constant harvesting of coconut fruit for coco juice is that the quantity of coconut for copra would be reduced. For copra, the meat has to be very mature. The juice however is thrown away because they don’t taste good. Are these the ones referred to by the President?

    This is where hype meets reality Ellen. The annual revenue for copra is about $1 Billion.

    http://www.ucap.org.ph/031209.htm#wk10nw1

    Vita-coco hopes to sell $100 Million this year.

    http://www.bevnet.com/news/2011/vita-coco-hires-jeff-popkin-as-vice-president-of-sales

    So even if we immediately unseated Vita-coco, we would be gloating over 100 Million after losing 1 Billion. Yan ang tinatawag na penny-wise, dollar foolish.

    Use your coconuts mga gago sycophants. Bigyan niyo naman ng good advice ang pobreng wala nang mapag-usapan kundi people power ng kanyang yumaong Ina. The guy needs brain power you dimwits.

  39. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Awaiting moderation na naman daw. So here is a repost.

    The downside of constant harvesting of coconut fruit for coco juice is that the quantity of coconut for copra would be reduced. For copra, the meat has to be very mature. The juice however is thrown away because they don’t taste good. Are these the ones referred to by the President?

    This is where hype meets reality Ellen. The annual revenue for copra is about $1 Billion.

    ucap.org.ph/031209.htm#wk10nw1 (precede with three w’s)

    Vita-coco hopes to sell $100 Million this year.

    bevnet.com/news/2011/vita-coco-hires-jeff-popkin-as-vice-president-of-sales (precede with three w’s)

    So even if we immediately unseated Vita-coco, we would be gloating over 100 Million after losing 1 Billion. Yan ang tinatawag na penny-wise, dollar foolish.

    Use your coconuts mga gago sycophants. Bigyan niyo naman ng good advice ang pobreng wala nang mapag-usapan kundi people power ng kanyang yumaong Ina. The guy needs brain power you dimwits.

  40. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    Trade-off yan. Kung gusto niyo ng copra, say goodbye to coco water, dahil kailangan ng copra ng mature buko, which produces bad tasting coco water or buko juice.

    If you want coco water, you harvest the buko young, so walang copra.

    So if you harvest an idea before mature consideration, you get lousy advice like the hype given to the President to lap up.

  41. Well, what do you know, more good ideas, building on Aquino’s eureka moment.

    ————————————–
    Why the Philippines Has Not Exported Buco Juice Despite Having Lots of Coconuts

    The leading coconut producer nations are (in order) the Philippines, Indonesia, India, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Malaysia. While production from nations such as Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu is relatively small, the coconut trade is a major source of export revenue for these countries. In some years, copra comprises more than 50% of Vanuatu’s export income.

    The coconut industry is the highest net foreign exchange earner of agricultural exports in the Philippines, accounting for about 1.5% of GNP. It employs, directly or indirectly, some 20 million people (about one-third of the population) and earns more than US$510m annually.

    http://antipinoy.com/reasons-why-the-philippines-has-not-exported-buco-juice-despite-having-lots-of-coconuts/

  42. We need to find new products for our coconut industry as copra bi products are are on the declining curve of its life cycle.
    The beauty of agricultural products is that depending on its age and time of harvesting, part of the plant, there are several possibilities. It just needs an open mind and technical expertise and an knack of turning crazy ideas into money making ventures.

  43. Trade-off yan. Kung gusto niyo ng copra, say goodbye to coco water, dahil kailangan ng copra ng mature buko, which produces bad tasting coco water or buko juice.

    If you want coco water, you harvest the buko young, so walang copra.
    ————————

    Hahahaha! Making conclusions without knowing what you’re talking about is dangerous. 🙂

  44. What the idea guys in the power team will have to do is to study the banana, mango, and pineapple models in the south. Everything from manpower sourcing, land preparation, planting, harvesting, processing, packaging, handling, marketing, etc. Its an exciting experience especially if you try going to the plantations by private plane.
    Study lang ha, huwag pakialaman, its a whole new ballpark for some but its been my playground eversince.

  45. saxnviolins saxnviolins

    # 48 Not my knowledge, but a paraphrase of Ellen’s words.

    For copra, the meat has to be very mature. The juice however is thrown away because they don’t taste good.

    Same knowledge from the two Ph.D’s below.

    biomass-asia-workshop.jp/biomassws/05workshop/program/14_Elauria.pdf

    Jessie C. Elauria, Ph.D.
    Institute of Agricultural Engineering, College of Engineering and Agro-Industrial Technology

    Marilyn M. Elauria, Ph.D.
    Department of Agricultural Economics, College of Economics and Management
    University of the Philippines Los Baños

    Slide 16 – “mature dehusked coconut is used for copra production”

  46. What I didn’t like about the buko story was the immediate “hype” as sax would put it.
    They should have just kept quiet about it, looked at the brand owner, studied where it sourced its raw material, volumes, strain of coconut, do we have that kind?, etc, are our current strains acceptable?, or is it possible to cultivate in our soil type, can we come up with the volume required without sacrificing our main product or at least see possibilities of expanding the hectarage planted to coconuts for this venture.
    Hopefully, this time around, Mr. Danding and company, don’t screw the farmers.

  47. parasabayan parasabayan

    You have a lot of business sense Jug! Yes, we have to know the kind of coconut variety is best for this young coco product and whether or not we can grow them in our soil. My sister has planted a variety in our lot that is called the Golden Variety, one that does not really grow so tall. Maybe this is the kind that can give the young coco juice. These can be planted in between the tall ones. We can still have the copra and the young juice. Be imaginative guys!

    We also need a variety that is sturdy and wont easily be devastated by the typhoons unless these are planted in Mindanao, an area hardly hit by all the typhoons. Kaya naman lahat ng mga dayuhan ay gustong angkinin ang Mindanao as it is not only blessed with good weather but excellent soil as well!

  48. xman xman

    saxnviolin’s info about copra’s $1 Billion industry makes more business sense than a $510 Million coco juice industry.

  49. MPRivera MPRivera

    paano naman kasi eh sobrang atat na eksayted ang nakapaligid kay PeNoy. hindi nila iniisip na ‘yung naging pag-unlad ng kapitbahay ay hindi basta makakamit nang ganun na la’ang. sana naman ay gamitin nila ‘yung laman ng bao ng ulo hindi ‘yung lumalabas sa magkabilang butas sa gilid ng bao.

    oo nga’t tayo ay sagana sa mga puno ng niyog, ang ating lupa ay mayaman upang pagtaniman ng halaman subalit hindi ‘yun ganun na la’ang. kailangang pag-aralan muna kung hanggang saan ang kakayahan ng ating bansa na suplayan ang pangangailangan ng buko dyus na hindi maaapektuhan ang kopra na siyang mas naunang pinagkukunan ng pagkakakitaan sa produktong niyog.

    naka-take off na at pabalik na ang ating mga kapitbahay, hindi pa rin tayo makaangat sa lupa ng kahit isang dangkal.

    ano ba ‘yan?

  50. Sus naman, kung may malaking pagkakaperahan diyan sa coco water na iyan, palulusutin pa ba ni Danding yan? Kung nung kalakasan ng copra lahat na yata ng pwedeng gawin sa niyog napag-aralan. Bago naging presidente ng San Miguel si Ramon Ang siya ang nagpatakbo ng mga Oil Mills ni Danding. Basta niyog Ramon Ang yan.

    Di na nga excited silang mag-amo sa coconut industry. Sunset industry na. Sabihin mong energy, minerals, o telecoms, kuha mo atensyon nung dalawa.

  51. MPRivera MPRivera

    kanya kanyang guhit ng y.gbols, eh.

    saka passe na nga ‘yan kina danding. nalusaw na ‘yung pondo ng coco levy. hindi na alam ng taong bayan kung ano na balita doon.

    kuko na la’ang ang natira, patay pa!

    nangangamoy pa nga ‘yung paa, eh.

  52. MPRivera MPRivera

    psb, ang lupa sa kahit saang lugar sa mindanao ay suitable sa alinmang uri ng halaman. walang hindi tumutubo doon at pinag-aanihan nang maayos.

    kung tutubo doon ang buto ng tao at mamumunga, maganda sana pero hindi ko pag-aaksayahan ng panahong itanim ang buto nina gloria dahil nakakatakot baka mas matindi pa sa kasibaan ang magiging bunga!

  53. After the Cojuangco-Ang partnership, Ludo and Luym of Cebu are the next-in-line to the Coconut King’s throne.

    According to a friend who deals in copra, the price of copra this year is unprecedented in its highest levels. Dry copra would cost US$1,200-$1,500 per metric ton. That’s $1.20-1.50 per Kilo.

    I searched the web to verify this but the latest I can get is March of this year. True enough, it’s almost the same price range as shown here: http://coconutmic.com/en/industry-news/113-price-of-copra-soars.

    Vita Coco 330ml cost $2 in the grocery. Assuming the specific density of water and coco water to be almost equal, one liter of coco water is equal to 1 kilogram weight.

    With these available figures, I challenge everyone to come up with a conclusion on which is more profitable – copra or coco water?

  54. Magno, hindi tutubo kung tao itatanim mo doon. Napakarami nang nakatanim na tao doon, wala ni isang tumubo. Pero tumataba talaga ang lupa.

  55. MPRivera MPRivera

    ala, ay ikaw ga tang, este Tongue eh nanloloko na? ay di ga’t sabi ko kung tutubo ang buto hindi ‘yun mismong tao kapag itinanim, ah.

    ay kung tao nga ang itatanim at si goyang ang itatanim at tutubo ay di sa kaunaunahang pagkakataon ay meron tayong bonzai na tao, hane?

    ay, siguradong turis atraksyon ‘yun, eh. kaya la’ang lasa ko’y baka patay na puno din ang labas na kahit paniki eh hindi gustong dapuan.

  56. OFW Taxpayer OFW Taxpayer

    Ngayon ko lang nabasa ang entry na ito. Pero konting dagdag ko lang sa usapan tungkol sa buko juice. Dahil madali kasing masabi na puedeng pasukan ng Pilpinas ang pag-export ng buko juice. Kung tutuusin, mayroon mga talaga itong potential. Pero kadikit nito yung kailangang pag-aralan o paghandaan.

    Tama ka, Ellen, na kabawasan ito sa copra. Pero kung ang halaga ng juice ay mas mahal kesa sa copra (na ilang sentimo lang kung minsan ang bilihan, kahit pa sa COCOFED buying stations)kikita pa rin ang mga tao rito.

    Yun nga lang, kailangan pa rin ng support system. Kumikita ang mga nagbebenta ng buko dito sa Metro Manila at seguro sa ibang urban centers. Pero ang karamihan sa mga pataniman ng niyog ay nasa Region 4, 5, 6, 8, 7, 10, 11, 12 at iba pang lugar sa Mindanao. Wala yatang factory para mag proseso ng juice. At masyadong matagal at malayo kung ibibiyahe ang buko sa lugar na may factory. Ganyan din ang problema noon sa desiccated coconut. Mga nagtatanim lang sa Region 4 at Region 7 ang nakakapag-supply sa mga planta. Ang taga Bicol, hanggang copra lang talaga ang produkto.

    Noong ang trabaho ko ay sa agriculture, halos naluluha ako pag nakikita ko ang magsasaka sa Batangas na nakakapili ng produkto niya at inaalam kung saan siya kikita ng malaki – sa buko ba (dadalhin sa Metro Manila), sa desiccated coconut (9-month old nuts ito na dadalhin sa San Pablo City) o mag copra (buwan buwan ay magbababa siya at kokoprahin, at kung kailan mataas ang presyo ay ibebenta ito.

    Ang nakakasama ng loob, naghihirap na nga ang nagsasaka ng niyog, pero mahal pa rin ang bentahan ng cooking oil. Hindi pa rin ito kayang bilhin ng mga mahihirap. Dapat sana ay bumabaha na ng langis dito at mas mura sa merkado, pero hindi pa rin iyon nangyayari.

  57. tru blue tru blue

    ““Drinking what they call coco water and what we call buko juice is a growing trend in the US. Because of its nutrients, because it is natural and environment friendly, it is becoming the new natural sports drink in America and is now a hundred-million-dollar industry,” he said.” – PNoy

    An overstatement and outright lie. Even in the Peewee League, this is not a sportsmens’ drink. Can’t even find such cocowater in giant supermarts like WalMart or Albertson and Smiths. And if you find some in small asian stores, the buko juices are imported from Thailand.

  58. tru blue tru blue

    “Kaya naman mas mataas na ngayon ang Aussie Dollar sa US Dollar.” tt @#33

    Tagal na yan tt. Took a redeye to Kangaroo Land in 78 and landed at Perth National Airport, took a cab to where the Big E was sitting. Looked at the taxi meter and it read 20, gave $20 and driver said $25 mate!

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