Update:
Portion of the June 4, 2011 Statement of the Department of Foreign Affairs On the Presence of Chinese Vessels In the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea)
The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) conveyed to the Chinese Embassy on June 2 its protest over the increasing presence and activities of Chinese vessels including naval assets in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).
The DFA noted that these actions of Chinese vessels hamper the normal and legitimate fishing activities of the Filipino fishermen in the area and undermines the peace and stability of the region.
The actions of the Chinese vessels in Philippine waters are serious violations of Philippine sovereignty and maritime jurisdiction and also violate the ASEAN-China Declaration of Conduct on the South China Sea.
June 2, 2011 Statement from the Chinese Embassy in Manila:
China holds a clear and consistent position on the South China Sea issue. The reported “incursion of Chinese ships” is not true. It’s only China’s marine research ship conducting normal maritime research activities on the South China Sea.
By Tessa Jamandre
VERA Files
Upon hearing this warning through a marine band radio, three Philippine boats fishing in Quirino, or Jackson atoll, a Philippine-claimed islet off Palawan in the disputed Spratly Islands, scampered away.
But the Chinese warship still fired three shots at the vessels F/V Jaime DLS, F/V Mama Lydia DLS and F/V Maricris 12. The Philippine Navy later identified the Chinese warship as Dongguan, a Jianghu-V Class missile frigate.
The incident in the South China Sea happened on Feb. 25—before March when the Philippine-commissioned seismic vessel was reportedly harassed in Reed Bank in western Palawan and before the Chinese vessels laid steel posts and a buoy in May in the Amy Douglas (Iroquois) Bank southwest of Reed Bank which Manila said is within its 200-mile exclusive economic zone.
Please click here (VERA Files) for the rest of the story.
This is really alarming but expected from China the bully who is known to flex its muscles whenever they want to occupy a territory, e.g. Taiwan, Hongkong, Mongolia, Tibet. Lahat ng borders kanila.
Ganyan ang ginawa nila sa Tibet even if the conflict was not yet settled out, ginawan na nila ng mga structures from the remotest areas to Lhasa, patay lahat ang magreklamo na nasa loob ng Tibet.
It won’t be long when the contested areas are already China, and just what happened to Sabah goodbye na lang if the leadership will not assert its claim.
Walang magagawa ngayon kundi mag-file ng diplomatic protest habang araw-araw ay may itinatayong bagong straktura ang China. Kinukuha ang laban sa laki at yaman. Swapang!
A warship firing on fishing vessels? I say this is pure muscle flexing by a bully! Our bright kids from the DFA should now have the chance to earn their money by thinking, strategizing and recommending to Prez Noy on what should be done to stop this In-your-face bullying! The UN is there, The International Court is there, etc. I say we should use ALL venues to redress our grievance to this greedy bully! I hate Bullies!
Agree with Guido. I hate bullies too.
If we don’t have the arms, we have the voice. DFA is correct in doing all these protests.
Unlike before when we purposely closed our eyes because GMA was thinking of the mapagkaperahan with the Chinese, now we are not keeping quiet.
Statement of the Chinese Embassy in Manila:
China holds a clear and consistent position on the South China Sea issue. The reported “incursion of Chinese ships” is not true. It’s only China’s marine research ship conducting normal maritime research activities on the South China Sea.
Where are the vociferous voices of the Left?
Phil Cruz, its on the right.
But if you look on the right, theres nothing left.
Alam ng Tsina hindi tayo lalaban ng barilan, sa dami nila mauubos ang ating lahing pnoy. 🙂
alam nila may oil dyan,pag nakapagtayo sila ng structure diyan,mahihirapan na tayong paalisin ang mga yan ng walang kapalit.
ang dapat na gawin ng ating PN lagyan na ng structure ang iba pang bahora na within our 200 miles exclusive economic zone.now na.
Where are the vociferous voices of the Left?
Phil Cruz – June 3, 2011 5:46 pm
Are you expecting any? Take note those representing the left are true blooded natural born pinoys. Who do you think fund them? They are, if given the opportunity to govern, with similar characteristics like our government in different forms. It all depends on who leads and objectives when governing.
In my view, China’s claim to the islands is historic and the rest claimants, including our country, is based on borders, being part of palawan, in the case for our country. Vietnam has also historical claim including Taiwan being china with a different government. Don’t know about brunei. Trouble comes when one country claims it all knowing it difficult to really determine and define borders. With history included to the mix. it clouds the whole issue. Best way to really handle this is too share these islands between claimants or divide it. Question is how? and who will be partial enought for everyone to benefit.
Hope our country will assert it rights and continue to assert until such time we can or partial enough to participate in a collective sharing of the islands when agreed on by all claimants. Diplomatic protest is not enough, we have to work hard and focus to be always proactive to assert our rights. UN can’t do anything. History have shown it. Even US can’t, its not in their interest or capability to do so at this time. Only us pinoys can and we should intelligently.
#10 – “…Diplomatic protest is not enough, we have to work hard and focus to be always proactive to assert our rights. UN can’t do anything. History have shown it. Even US can’t, its not in their interest or capability to do so at this time. Only us pinoys can and we should intelligently.” – Olan
If I may, what exactly do you have in mind olan? Thanks!
My two cents…We are only claiming what are ours, and not the whole things and we should be very clear about it to China and the whole world in any forum possible. We should stand on our ground and let the whole world know that China is wrong in their claim and that they are bullying us to submission by not letting us do things that we should in our islands. We should do this and expose China diplomatically. Put them on the spot using diplomacy as they use diplomacy defining their claim and at the same time chase us away from our islands using threats and military might. We should also involve other countries, get their sympathy and support on our side while we build. Make them understand that we are a sovereign worth supporting. In any case, time will come we have to rise up to depend what is ours whether we can or not.
Thanks olan! My line of thinking too, although how I wish we have our own fleet of warships e.g. cruisers, destroyers, carriers, subs, but then if we have those, I am sure China wouldn’t be bullying us anymore and we wouldn’t be humiliated every now and then!
It is also worth mentioning that that there is an increase in number of fresh PMA graduates electing to join the Phil Navy so it would help when push comes to shove, “whether we can or not”!
#6 – That will 5 ;8)) as in Five Smileys! Shall we say the highest Hahaha! rating?
This does not do good to us anymore. Bullied inside our own terrirory?
Ala’y kung walang ikakaya ay kahit balisong na la’ang!
Hellow ebri badi, how are you all ga?
Huh, nakalusot ka, Mags! Miss ka na dito ni Tongue, 🙂
Hala, ilabas na ang mga 29 at baka sugurin tayo ng Tsina, buti na kahit balisong at bato e meron tayong armas.
If Chinas’ claim is indeed historic, then it can also claim the entire s.e. asia, japan and california. We are going against a permanent member of the security council.
China always claims history about every claim. Baka bandang huli pati buwan at araw kanila na din. They can always support such if any leader is as ganid as gloria macapal arroyo. Konting pera lang, lusot na. May aangal ba, hmmmmm?
Kung babayaran nila utang natin, sa kanila na ang spratley. Di naman natin kaya mag butas doon at napupunta lang sa mga compania ng langis ang pera kung ipapabutas sa kanila.
Kapiraso lang ang Spratlys sa kini-claim ng China. Nakakalimutan natin malapit nang maging pag-aari ng mga Intsik ang Pilipinas sa pamamagitan ng mga mogul na nagmamay-ari ngayon ng malalawak na lupain at mga negosyong akala ng ating mga kababayan ay tatak ng kaunlaran.
My line of thinking too, although how I wish we have our own fleet of warships e.g. cruisers, destroyers, carriers, subs, but then if we have those, I am sure China wouldn’t be bullying us anymore and we wouldn’t be humiliated every now and then! – Guido – June 4, 2011 9:07 am
Me too yun nga lang tayo wala tayo nun. But If our military is intelligent, i think we can still depend our islands using shoulder fired missiles (stingers) against their aircrafts, mines against their installation, snipers against their foot soldiers, and fast craft to escape their navy’s. The islands are small and uninhabited, no one lives there. We just need to sabotage whatever the aggresor is doing in our territories. If they build, we destroy! we’ll make them pay and spend resources after resources! and let the rest of our kapinuyan, americans and Nato depend palawan.
Training is key and cooperation with the vietnamese and the malaysians. But it’s always much better di na humantong dito.
Mags, good that you were able to get in.
I was so tired when I got home last night. It’s only now I was able to open my computer.
I miss your vibrant participation in the discussion.
Statement of the Department of Foreign Affairs On the Presence of Chinese Vessels In the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea.
The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) conveyed to the Chinese Embassy on June 2 its protest over the increasing presence and activities of Chinese vessels including naval assets in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).
This protest follows a series of protests already filed by the DFA since the Reed Bank incident in March.
As a matter of course, the DFA files verbal or written protests as soon as it receives confirmed and actionable reports from the Department of National Defense.
The DFA noted that these actions of Chinese vessels hamper the normal and legitimate fishing activities of the Filipino fishermen in the area and undermines the peace and stability of the region.
The actions of the Chinese vessels in Philippine waters are serious violations of Philippine sovereignty and maritime jurisdiction and also violate the ASEAN-China Declaration of Conduct on the South China Sea.
Nevertheless, both sides agreed to keep the channels of communication open and continue dialogue on the South China Sea issue.
June 4, 2011
sa vietnam nagkaroon ng protesta ang mamayan nila sa harap ng chinese embassy.galit na galit ang mamayan nila dahil sa pagputol ng cable ng chinese vessel sa isang oil exploring vessel ng vietnam.
sa atin wala man lamang protesta??hellowwww
Mr. Olan, Mr. Guido,
Training of our military and cooperation with any other country are not enough to deter the Insiks from bullying the Pinas if soldiers, most especially some generals are not thinking of fattening their own pockets in preparation for their retirement.
Mas maige sigurong bigyang diin natin ang COMMITTED SERVICE AND LOVE OF COUNTRY para mas magkaroon ng kulay ang ating pakikibaka upang mapangalagaan ang ating soberenya.
Ellen, chi,
‘Yung administrator ng site na ito ay ilang ulit akong hinadlangan para makapasok sa pinto subalit hindi umubra ang kanyang pagharang sa aking pag-aalagwa at kakulitan.
Nakikiusap na nga ako ‘nung una, aayaw ayaw pa. Sundutin ko nga sa butas ng ilong ng pekpek, este pakpak ng patong bading, eh di bunigay din siya. Ako pa, eh may internet kuneksiyon na ako uli dine.
He he he heeeh!
Hahaha! Welkambak, Mags. Tagal mong nagbakasyon sa eskwela. 🙂
kaya, masigabong Welcome Back!
In some news report, China denied that it deployed naval vessels.
Simple lang yan. Buy some of those video monitors that they install in the malls, and in parking lots. Try to buy the ones with the highest resolution, and find those with zoom capability. Mayroong mga home type monitors that can be viewed on the net.
Kapag na-install na yan sa mga island natin, madali nang mapatunayan kung may naval vessel na lulan ang mga singkit.
Dahil poor tayo, we can emulate other poor warriors. Sabi ng isang rebelde laban kay Qaddafi, google earth daw ang gamit nila to look for Qaddafi’s troops. Totoo naman, yung paid account can give you real time pics.
So tuwing may incursions, i-post ang mga vidoes sa youtube.
China is particular about its image. Nandiyan ang nag-host ng Olympics, etc. Hindi natin kaya yan ng baril por baril. But if it faces the prospect of losing face, it may be deterred.
He who chooses the weapons wins the fight. Kung hamunin ni Doc Holliday si Mike Tyson ng suntukan, tiyak, talo. Hamunin niya ng bunutan ng baril, kakain ng bala si Mike Tyson.
I’m sure nabasa ni NoyP kung sino si Doc Holliday.
The problem with China is that inspite of being an economic giant, it still find ways to save its resources by turning to weaker territories’ premises. Just like the US it hated so much, China wants its presence in the region always felt.
Kung noon ay nagkakasya lamang sila sa goto-lugaw, ngayon ay hindi sila kuntento sa barya barya na lang. Dahil nga mayamang bansa at makapangyarihan na, kinagugulatan kaya walang patumangga ang kanilang pang-aagaw ng teritoryo ng may teritoryo sa pamamagitan ng pagbibigay diin sa kasaysayan ng kanilang mga kaangkinan.
Just like the US it hated so much, China wants its presence in the region always felt. – MPRivera – June 6, 2011 9:08 pm
Are you sure? I doubt that they HATE the US so much. maybe more like competing power, else walang economic cooperation, technology transfer, etc. similar to the ex-soviet-US cold war era.
Kung noon ay nagkakasya lamang sila sa goto-lugaw, ngayon ay hindi sila kuntento sa barya barya na lang. Dahil nga mayamang bansa at makapangyarihan na, kinagugulatan kaya walang patumangga ang kanilang pang-aagaw ng teritoryo ng may teritoryo sa pamamagitan ng pagbibigay diin sa kasaysayan ng kanilang mga kaangkinan. – MPRivera – June 6, 2011 9:08 pm
Sometime one has to understand point of view of others inorder to know them and/or reach an understanding with them. I don not think China is really like that. they have a chance to takeover Combodia and Vietnam but they did’nt. They went in North Korea but they withdraw. They are staking their claim on the island as we do together with Vietnam, malaysia, Brunei, and Taiwan. They have not yet enforce their will on the islands. But I will not be surprise that if they want to they can.
Ang Spratly ay bahagi ng teritoryo ng Pilipinas, nasa loob ng economic zone ng Pilipinas at hindi dapat mawala sa Pilipinas.
Kailan lamang ba sila nagkaroon ng claim dito? Di ba’t nitong nasa ilalim tayo ng pekeng bayarang gobyernong dorobo?
The fact is that the Philippines is militarily WEAK in all aspects. As I have said it before, Pinas has an air force without planes, a navy without ships, and an ill-equipped army under fire and led by (some ) generals who dabble in “fund conversions” (thanks to massive corruption in the armed forces).
Under these trying times, we have to make do with what we have and stop looking across the Pacific for Uncle Sam. Because we obviously cannot be offensively aggressive to ward off advances made by China, at least let us stand our ground by any means possible at our immediate disposal
with a firm resolve that we will not be bulied. If diplomacy is the only way to go, then so be it. If (at all) an armed conflict is initiated and cannot be avoided, then it is but natural for a knee-jerk reaction on our part and stand firm on it. That way, the international comunity will surely take notice. The Vietnamese stood their ground in their “pajamas” against America and won. Am I to believe that Vietnam is a lot tougher than us ?