His last conversation with Reyes was Monday noon. Reyes told him that Gloria Arroyo called him up recently to inquire about two things: One, she wanted to know who was the mistah of Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV who delivered his (Reyes) Jan. 14, 2011 letter to the senator asking him to reveal who was “powerful person” behind former military comptroller Carlos Garcia, and two, she wanted to know why Robles was attacking Paranaque Rep. Roilo Golez.
It must be noted that Reyes sent Trillanes the letter before former military budget officer, Lt. Col. George Rabusa with his expose on Reyes getting P50 million send-off gift and P10 million allowance every month on Jan. 27. At this time, the issue was limited to the plea bargain agreement between the Ombudsman and Garcia.Does this mean Reyes knew he would be dragged into the controversy?
On Arroyo’s second concern, Robles said he is suspicious of Golez’ motive in attacking Reyes and that it is diverting the issue from Garcia. He said that people protecting Garcia are doing it through Golez.
Golez, in an earlier newspaper interview, was puzzled by Robles line. He said he is perplexed where Robles was coming from.
The first concern of Arroyo raised more concerns. Why would Arroyo be concerned who was the “mistah” of Trillanes who delivered the letter? Was she afraid that it would be Lt. Commander Cris Magdangal, her former aide, who might be privy to some things she would not want to be known? No, it was not Lcdr Magdangal.
If Arroyo was interested in the identity of the officer who brought the letter, that officer better take precaution.
In the letter, which Reyes also published in major newspapers, said: “ Dea Senator Trillanes,
I am Angelo T. Reyes. I write as an ordinary citizen of this Republic.
With all due respect, I appreciate how busy you are, so I will be as brief as possible.
The Philippine daily Inquirer issue of 13 January 2011, carried a front page article that quoted the good Senator as having said that “ex-military comptroller Garcia was fronting for a powerful person.” The article proceeded to say that you declined to identify the powerful person but that you had disclosed the name of certain people in Malacanang. The next day issue of the same newspaper carried an article about former Defense and Military chiefs being linked to the plunder case.
“This has fueled a lot of speculation as to who this powerful person is that Garcia is allegedly fronting for.
“In the interest of truth, justice and fairness, I believe the good senator must now identify who this powerful person is. And knowing you to be a forthright and just person, I am confident that when you do name this powerful person, you would be able to substantiate the allegation.
“Mr. Senator, you owe it to the ordinary citizens of this Republic that you do this. Please let us not keep the people and the issue hanging.”
Very truly yours, Angelo T. Reyes
In reply to Reyes’ request Trillanes said in media interviews that based on the Rabusa expose, the powerful person behind Garcia were Reyes and his then comptroller Lt. Gen. Jacinto Ligot.”
Reyes death was a shock. May he find his peace with the Lord while we continue with our search for truth that would restore honesty to government service and decency to our daily life.
Ellen, I never liked Robles (and he knows it) but what he says is worth exploring.
Pity! Would be good if sailor Magdangal would come out now and tell all. 😉
Hindi kaya ang tawag na ito ay kung hindi man dahilan ay nagdagdag sa dahilan kung bakit nag pakamatay si Angelo Reyes? Sayang siya…he died a useless death…to save his
former boss, the cheat of all…he could have been a hero..an honest to goodness military man…to die for his country but..oh well things seem to be going the wrong way…kawawa siya ipagdasal na lang natin ang kanyang kaluluwa..sa lahat ng bagay na nangyayari may katumbas na gagandahan…things happen for a reason and for a good reason at the end..
Reyes death will lead the nation to the truth..and justice..hindi kay Justice dilem na..ang tawag ko noon kay siraulo..ay death of justice..ano naman ang kasalukuyan? ang sabi nga “Justice when equal scale she holds is blind”.
maligaya si putot at loyal ang mga itinanim niya sa gobyerno ng ating bayan…mahiirapan si PNoy..to clean up the gov’t..nakasiksik na ang dumi..
“Diba nung nagusap tayo ni Sec. Reyes, sinabi mo sa kanya na sabihin na niya ang nalalaman niya at dinidikdik na siya at ang sagot ni Sec. Reyes ay ayaw niyang maglaglag at mandamay ng iba?” Sec. Reyes’spokesman Patricia Daza when interviewed by Noli De Castro on TV Patrol.
yikes!
“Until the end, he was an officer, a gentleman. He did not betray anyone, he did not squeal,” Daza said.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20110208-319171/Reyes-family-to-critics-No-flowers-please
Daza is speaking from her backside! Shut up Miss Daza. Have you never heard of the saying, “When in a hole, stop digging!”
This Daza woman does not know the meaning of “an officer and a gentleman.”
An officer and a gentleman does not steal, does not condone corruption, stands up for his men, has the moral courage to step up and be counted and to say “No!” to an act that’s not in keeping with acts that would violate honour and integrity even when he knows it would be the most unpopular act he’d ever commit.
Patricia Daza has posed a challenge compelling people who know the meaning of officer and gentleman to say that Angie Reyes was not one.
She should just shut up!
or she could have just unwittingly exposed the prevailing culture in the military? omerta – like…
someone should do a loyalty check or something, and fast.
“Until the end, he was an officer, a gentleman. He did not betray anyone, he did not squeal,”——-> Daza
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Correction !! Until the end, he was an idiot and was arrogant. He did not squeal or betray anyone because he was part of the whole shebang to bleed the coffers of a corruption-ridden,——- cash-strapped government dry.
kaya pala malacanang was talking about “values” training earlier?
I think so too Jug but worse, she unwittingly exposed the blight of her ignorance.
i really hope someone will step up shut daza’s pie hole up before the whole country will think that the military is just protecting each other and everybody steals just don’t get caught and if you do “squeeling is punishable by death”
Robles was so distraught over Reyes passing that in his TV interviews, he attacked Golez and Trillanes to the extent of saying they were political prostitutes. Later on, when contacted by Trillanes people, he apologized saying it was only meant for Golez. But then TV stations had a feast day with his quotes calling Trillanes corrupt.
Idiot Robles… to the very end too!
Robles is probably goddamn scared too… After all he was N-5 and was kicked out of the post by his boss for being shit!
whatever does robles stand for nowadays?
Jug! You are right on the mark. That woman is possibly passing on a message to others for all we know.
That’s his natural character anyway, I mean, he gets distraught so easily that he makes ‘mura’ to his underlings (fellow PMAers too). A man whose threshold of self control is really, really low!
Mabuti sana kung bago siya nag suicide ay nagsabi siya kung sino talaga ang mga corrupt pang mga tao sa hanay ng AFP. Hanga ako sa kanya na sinolo niya ang problema. Hindi siya nanlaglag ng iba para madamay sa kaso. Pero sad to say siya ay nilaglag ng iba niyang kasamahan at idamay sa katiwalaan.
Ang iba na nainvolve sa iskandalo sana mag isip isip na sila. Umamin na lang at sabihin pa kung sino sino ang mga tumanggap pa ng pera. Magpakatotoo na lang.
yun na nga arvin eh, hindi nanglaglag, hindi nag squeel, dapat applicable lang yan para sa mga kaaway ng bansa hindi sa pagtakip sa mga kalokohan.
kung ayaw nilang masira ang pangalan ng institution wag silang magloko o pigilan nila ang isa’t isa
Napaihi sa panty niya si Gloria ng marinig na nagpakamatay si General Reyes, her loyal tuta. She had to get out of her hole to personally make sure that the General’s mouth was shut. Naniniwala si Gloria ng may mga tao na mas mapanganib kung patay na dahil hinde na sila maduduro.
Si Robles ay isang halimbawa ng mabilis madala ng galit at makalimutan ang sarili dahil sa katapatan sa kanyang idolo. Parang aso na gagawaing mag mukhang gago mapagtakpan lamang ang kanyang amo. Madaling maunawaan ang ganyang ugali. Actually, ang ilan dito ay ganyan ang gawa.
isagani,
matuto ka namang umintindi ng binabasa mo. in an earlier thread you’ll see that robles is class 65, reyes is 66, robles is actually the yearling (squadmate?) of reyes. now the yearling upperclassman is supposed to take care of his plebe underclassman, siya ang “nagpapalaki” ng bata niya so to speak. kaya he feels responsible for reyes and not that he’s his idol.
please keep with the discussion…
oops, please keep up with the discussion, stop humiliating yourself
Yes, I agree, but it shouldn’t be the norm (suicide) on these generals or for any person, I hope. Just let truth prevail, and I think the country would be greatly served in ridding itself of shenanigans in government.
kanina ka pa, na o obvious na katalinuhan mo ha
Sa ginawa niya ay nagpapakita siya ng kaduwagan para harapin ang isang matinding pagsubok. Mayaman na siya, may pera. Kahit anong gusto ay maaari niyang mabili. Hindi katulad ng ibang tao na dahil walang pera ay hindi makamit ang nais sa buhay. Pero kahit mahirap at nagtitiis sa pang araw araw na buhay kahit magkaroon lang ng konting pera ay hindi nagagawa na wakasan ang buhay. Akala ko ba ang nagiging General ay matapang talaga at buo ang loob. Mas hahangaan sana siya at magiging makabuluhan ang buhay kung sinabi niya kung sino sino pa ang iba na mga sangkot.
There is no reason to believe that Reyes killed himself out of loyalty. This is inconsistent with his readiness to throw out Estrada when it suited him.
From Rabusa’s statements, the systemic corruption in the higher echelons in the AFP began further back to the waning years of Corazon Aquino’s presidency. It is therefore reasonable to assume that the succeeding presidents tolerated the corruption as it has become a part of “tradition”.
More likely he has become ashamed of himself, but then his remorse, if ever it was one, came too late.
It is now imperative to investigate the past COS’es and their comptrolers.
nfa,
and problema niyan kung malalim na yung “lahat naman nakinabang” o “walang malinis” tapos walang laglagan walang iwanan, huwag kang magmalinis, culture…
and his readiness to throw out estrada was because he was indecently rewarded for it
kaya sa tingin ko hindi yata values training ang kailangan kundi “values determination” muna
Agree jug… values are there but determining which values should be re-visited.
anna,
if you remember i was extremely hesitant about this topic earlier, yung feeling mo na baka masira ang institution?
it may be possbile that a lot people believe that this is the case and the whistleblowers are traitors and are dragging the name of the afp through the mud. as if forgetting to whom loyalty is owed to?
My friend said Robles is with a group that has a project with DOE, then headed by Reyes.
Nakinabang ng husto sa kanyang inalagaan. kaya sobra ang sama ng loob kung sino-sino na ang binanatan na wala namang basehan.
its a knee jerk reaction really and the organization will tend to protect itself
becky,
parang napansin ko nga n oa na tong si robles, kaya pala
It’s the prospect of being charged with plunder that he feared. P50 Million send off money is plunder. Golez has already said he could be charged with plunder.
Plunder is unbailable. He chose to end his life rather than spend the rest of retirement in jail.
I mean Reyes in my comment in #40.
Seguro ang sabi ni putot kay Reyes…shut-up.. manahimik ka na lang..and ang sagot ni Reyes…”yes your highness”..and shot himself…hindi lang salot si putot..makamandag pa to the extremes…and loyal to the end to his mighty queen…”putot but makamandag” PMA a new meaning sa akin…
“Putot Makamandag Arroyo”. isang salot!..ang nunal sa kanyang mukha hindi kaya mata ni Luci? ang sabi niya noon she opened the Bible and she was mandated by God (????)
People in power are adults so their values are already determined. Pero kahit santo ang maluklok diyan, hindi oobra ang kanyang kabanalan sa tentasyon ni satanas lalo na pag $$$ ang deal.
What we need are strong institutions along with transparency to minimize the temptation and its debilitating effects.
Now that Reyes is gone, it’s time for Trillanes and Golez to name Garcia’s padrino?
OA nga si Robles. His problem is he knows Reyes is guilty so he could not defend him all out. And yet, masama ang loob niya kaya kung ano-anong baluktot na pinagsasabi niya.
Simple lang naman ang buhay…mabuhay ka ng simple walang problema kung gusto mo mag enjoy ayos lang basta ang pera mo galing sa tamang paraan. Ang tao naghihirap para mabuhay nagbabayad ng taxes tapos nanakawin lang. According to caretaker may kausap daw si Reyes sa cellphone at balisa…sino kaya yun dapat ang caller.
Jug,
Right you are! There is an enormous risk indeed. But I still believe in the institution. Some of its leaders are scalawags and humbugs but it shouldn’t detract from the fact that many members of the AFP, particularly those who are in the front line of battle, are wounded and killed as we speak, deserve respect.
tama ka nfa, hindi na bata ang mga to. sabagay kung nasa harap ko na kahit 50 million cash (small time) na tipong naka bag na, dadalhin ko na lang, walang pirmahan, baka hindi ko rin alam kung anong gagawin ko? ilang “classmate” din yun
Now that Reyes is gone, it’s time for Trillanes and Golez to name Garcia’s padrino?- NFA Rice # 43
Trillanes and Golez are legislators. In this particular case, their job is to investigate in aid of legislation. The burden of naming who is behind Garcia should not be on them. It should be on Garcia and others who are involved.
Trillanes has said it was Reyes based on Rabusa’s testimony. It was up to Reyes to tell who he reports to. He preferred to take his life rather than expose his principal.
He preferred to take his life rather than expose his principal.
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so hindi talaga siya “nag squeel” gaya nang sabi ni daza?
Reyes might have wanted to protect his family like what Garcia did in entering Plea Bargain. Sa nangyari kay Reyes, siguro lalong umurong ang dalawang maliit na itlog pugo ni Neri.
Knowing the sentiment and hearts of the Filipinos, expect the Senate to temporarily stop the hearing as a respect to Angie’s death. I doubt if they would call his wife to the hearing while she’s in mourning. Then, this case involving GMA would slowly be forgotten.
whatever sympathy I had for the late general and his family was shattered by their spokesperson…
GMA’s call to Reyes triggered his suicide.
Recently, I watched a TV documentary about CIA operatives being planted some device on their brain to blindly follow orders making them monsters who are not afraid to assassinate and kill people as ordered. Their minds are controlled and they forget what they have done after the incident. Could this already be happening in the Philippines? GMA used the same trick to control her men until their death. That explains their utmost loyalty to them. CIA could easily pass on to GMA’s nine years administration.
@Ellen #48,
I am as curious as Gloria Arroyo on the the content of letter by Reyes to Trillanes allegedly written right before his death.
I don’t see why the content of the letter should be treated any different than Rabusa’s documents.
Incidentally just read this…
Calls to abolish PMA http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=655721&publicationSubCategoryId=63
For once, I agree with scoundrel Pichay. There should be separate academies… separate military academies will re-shape military professionalism. There should be separate naval academy, air force academy and army academy.
What do you mean, NFA, about the letter being treated any different?
The contents of the letter is in my article.
anna,
that would be too expensive, one change the country cannot afford, its not the academy, its the political system.
i don’t trust pichay and i certainly don’t think that commie casino is looking out for the interest of the country, he might even want to weaken the armed forces.
GMA said Reyes died a courageous and patriotic person. She meants Reyes was courageous by not implicating her and patriotic for not abandoning her during her 9 years in office.
“An officer and a gentleman does not steal, does not condone corruption, stands up for his men, has the moral courage to step up and be counted and to say “No!” to an act that’s not in keeping with acts that would violate honour and integrity even when he knows it would be the most unpopular act he’d ever commit.” – Anna
Agree!!!
so reyes said his “adios patria adorada region del sol querida” to her?
good thing i’m neither officer nor a gentleman, because something as trivial as katrina halili giving me a lap dance to careless whisper wearing nothing but the bare necessities will make me scream uncle aleady
Jug,
My view is purely practical and not aligned with calls to close down PMA because shitheads like Pichay or Sison believe it breeds scoundrels. Not at all.
I think separate colleges would make the military more professional. Speaking purely of military academia, the PMA is a generalist college after all. Graduates continue their field specialisation, eg., army, navy, air force, after graudation anyway.
And as things stand there are already separate armed services education and training departments within each armed service so why not just re-set them as full armed service college (just like in the US, UK, France, etc.)
And of course, the defence college can be maintained or an inter-armed services college (war college) could be set up to re-enforce armed services dogma of one for all, all for one sort of thing. 😉
you have a point there actually
In terms of cost, I don’t believe it will be costlier than how they practice military education anyway. Maybe, there’s a need to increase budget a bit but not by much.
yep, come to think of it, all those money channeled elsewhere and unaccounted for…we could’ve had a better set up already?
So Lacson was right all along?
PMAers nagalit sa ‘All Right Sir’ ni Ping
(Pilipino Star Ngayon) Updated September 01, 2001 12:00 AM
Nagalit ang mga cavaliers sa Philippine Military Academy (PMA) sa ginawang pang-iinsulto ni Senador Panfilo Lacson ng lantarang gamitin nito ang sagradong “Code of Honor” ng institusyon sa mainit na pagkuwestiyon kay Defense Secretary Angelo Reyes sa question hour ng Senado kamakalawa.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=132203
If you ask me, I think Lacson was very very right along.
“An officer and a gentleman does not steal, does not condone corruption, stands up for his men, has the moral courage to step up and be counted and to say “No!”
But “A General can steal, condone corruption…”
The idea of several military academies is great. That would professionalize the branches of AFP. One who wants to be a Naval Officer could study at Naval Academy and so on. But again, this requires lots of funds.
@Ellen,
Oh yes, thanks. I got my time frames wrong.
Reyes have participated in the corruption. But it is clear that he was not Garcia’s padrino. Rabusa never implicated him in Garcia’s case, and even stated that would have been the cleanest General if not for the pabaon system.
So why is Trillanes insisting on Reyes?
Gusto ni Trillanes na kalkalin kung ano ang pinag-usapan nina GMA at Reyes sa telepono isang araw bago nagpakamatay si Angie. But how? Hindi naman recorded ang pag-uusap? Baka balak kumuha ng spiritual medium si Trillanes at kausapin ang kaluluwa ni Reyes.
Bilib na bilib ako kay putot on how she controls her men. Imagine just one call, one of her most powerful men ends his life!
Corruption is just like drug and alcohol addiction. Even better coz with money one can buy almost everything. But just like any addiction, the addict self destructs.
Wala kayang suicide note si Angie?
“I think separate colleges would make the military more professional. Speaking purely of military academia, the PMA is a generalist college after all. Graduates continue their field specialisation, eg., army, navy, air force, after graudation anyway.”
Yeah, I agree. It would also not foster the kind of buddy-buddy system that it has fostered over the years to the detriment of the country.
Corruption is evil, much more in the hands of those in power….
Sabi nga ng tatay ko, “Walang humahawak sa kaldero ng hindi nauulingan.” Note: this is old school cooking, by the way. ^_^
Of course, most of us now cooks with LPG…..
May control device na naka-implant sa utak ni Reyes. Siya at lahat ng tuta ni GMA ay meroon. Isang tawag lang, sunod agad.
Siguro ganito ang utos niya kay Reyes nang tumawag: “Hello Angie, magpakamatay ka bukas.”
I don’t want to speculate, but I wonder why he said sorry. His last word before he died. Ok, I’ll let others speculate. 😛
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=655674&publicationSubCategoryId=92
Anna, the PMA graduates are given schooling in the US etc. to further their expertice.
Mike, nag-sorry nga si Reyes but it was lapse of judgment.
Itong si Gloria, ang hilig makipag phone pal. Dati-rati ang ka phone pal niya ay si Garci, ngayon kay Angie naman.
PSB,
Yes, am aware of that. Further schoolibg but not only in the US but in other countries too, UK, France, Germany, Australia, (even Malaysia), etc…
Thing is I believe to make each service truly espeialised and improve professionalism and perhaps, as josephtrans said, “It would also not foster the kind of buddy-buddy system that it has fostered over the years to the detriment of the country.”, why not just set up separate armed service college, eg., RP Naval [military] College, RP Army [military] College, RP Air Force [military] College.
This doesn’t mean that studies abroad or in other foreign military institutes should be discarded either (if only to learn from each other or to learn new techniques, etc., etc.,)
“Mystery caller
The TV report said the police also want to get hold of Reyes’ cellular phone after a witness — Feliciano Recorba, a caretaker at the cemetery — said the former Defense chief received a call minutes before he took his own life. Recorba reportedly described Reyes as “agitated” while talking to the phone.
“It could be of importance to the investigation,” said an unidentified policeman in the “24 Oras” report, referring to the cellular phone.
Recorba, who helped carry Reyes to his car after the shooting, said Reyes asked to be left alone immediately after the phone call.
“Narinig ko na sinabihan yung anak niya na hintayin na lang siya sa kotse tsaka yung bodyguard niya medyo pinalayo ng konti (I heard him ask his sons to wait for him in the car and his bodyguard to keep some distance from him),” he said.”
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212529/family-bars-critics-from-visiting-angelo-reyes-wake
“Huwag na kayong pumunta, huwag na kayong magpadala ng dasal at mga bulaklak. Hindi ho yan tatanggapin ng pamilya (Don’t ever go to his wake and don’t bother sending flowers because the family will not accept that),” Daza said.
Ngek, di tayo (mga bloggers dito) tatanggapin sa burol ni Sec. Reyes at papalayasin tayo. 🙁
The idea is to make the AFP lean and mean. (After all, strictly speaking it’s already a very very small military organisation.)
Mike, read somewhere he was speaking to his wife.
Mike,
Personally, I don’t like funerals. Have only attended 5 funerals in my lifetime. Refused even to go to wake for my best friend who died recently.
Reply to No.80: Ganito ang usapan nila ng mystery caller:
Caller: “Ano ba Angie, hindi ka pa ba nagpapakamatay gaya ng bilin ko sa iyo kahapon?”
Angie: “Ano ka ba naman Mam. Hanggang ngayon sa huli kong sandali, dinidiktahan mo pa ako? Hayaan mo muna tapusin ko ang dasal ko. Put…”
Caller: “Basta sige, dadalawin na lang kita agad sa hospital kunwari. Huwag na huwag niyo ako isasabit kahit na ang ganid mong asawa. Basta good boy ka lang, ako ang bahala sa iyong pamilya.”
Angie: “Oo na, Put…”
Anna, thanks for that info. 🙂
Mike, I think they would allow Ellen to visit Angie’s wake ’cause she’s a journalist.
Why stop people even enemies from attending funeral? When Erap’s mother passed away, his mortal enemy attended the wake. I’m referring to Chavit Singson.
Anna #84
I don’t like funerals too. I don’t feel comfortable. 🙁
Heheheeh… why? Short of seats?
Let’s see if they would stop Sen. Jinggoy and Erap from attending the wake if the two decide to attend.
Anna, I don’t like the smell of dead people. 😛
🙂 🙂 🙂 You are sooo cruel, Mike but I like your excuse… 😛
re #81 Mike, Pwede raw pumunta kaya lang dapat may dalang expandable folder gaya nung kay Sonny Lim na puno ng abuloy.
#26: jug, kumahol kana naman. Basahin mo rin ang ibang komento, kung ano ang ibig nilang sabihin, bago ka tumahol, okay.
Sa mga pangyayari, poporma na naman si PeNoy dito, pero as usual, hanggan salita lang.
Rabusa, in his testimony divulged that from the 10% withheld by GHQ from the 007 James Bond Style conversion, one percent goes to “GMA military aide” which I presume IS Magdangal. From where I stand, it looks like Rabusa is setting him up to come clean and tell all. Magdangal should now be very careful since he knows what misfortune might befall him.
Patricia Daza,
wala akong balak pumunta o magpadala man lang ng bulaklak sa dati mong amo….sapat sapat na yung nakurakot niya para pagkagastusan ko pa siya ng panahon at pera…Proud na Proud ka pa sa amo mo na hanggang sa huli kamo ay wala siyang dinamay na iba..dapat ang sinabi mo ay hanggang sa huli ay nagsisinunggaling parin siya….
Tanggapin sana siya ng Panginoon !! May he rest in Peace !
Excellent pointer Tongue!!!
Smells of Gloria and Pidal again! Naknampucha!
I must admit I’m not very familiar with military matters. But there’s one question I’ve long been wanting to ask. The bodyguards of these politicians and Generals of course including the President know quite a lot about their bosses; their secrets and what they do. Often, these same bodyguards act as pimps for their bosses and collect illegal money for them. Kaya siguradong alam ng mga alalay ang lahat na kalokohan ng kanilang mga amo. Now, can these bodyguards be asked to testify and share info in aid of legislation or investigation?
Sincerely hoping that Rabusa will not turn around and run away with tails between his legs because his compadre committed suicide! Dang! He must reveal bloody all!
Courage, courage, a bit more courage, Col Rabusa… Trillanes cannot do the job on his own.
This is one time we miss Lacson and Jamby most.
Angie Reyes committed that most cowardly act available to men if indeed he killed himself aided by the ‘Hello Angie” caller.
End of the line for him, Miriam Santiago was right in saying “Reyes is a dead man walking”. Either he killed himself or someone would do it for him.
What could be that Hello Reyes call about? Someone “very powerful” cooking up something again?! Hindi na yata nakayanan ni Angie kaya nagkumpisal sa nanay.
Truthseeker,
I suppose so, particularly if they are still in active service.
Most of these so-called bodyguards are from the technical services of the armed forces anyway, in other words, paid by taxpayers’ money.
Chi,
How are you na? Not tired?
ayaw ng familia na ipagdasal siya…I respect their decision..and this I now pray “Lord,binabawi ko ang hiling ko kanina sa misa sa prayers for the dead..” hindi ata niya kailangan ang “eternal rest grant unto him”…
“Hindi na yata nakayanan ni Angie kaya nagkumpisal sa nanay.”
Nicely put.
Response to No.104: Thanks. But I still have to hear and see one bodyguard being asked to testify or who volunteered to testify what they know about their bosses. This might be true to PSG who is tasked to protect the First Family. I think their oath of confidentiality does not allow them to talk. I don’t know.
Pinatawad na kaya ng nanay? How sure was Angie that his mother has forgiven him? Napakaaga ng suicide niya. Ang mystery caller ang nag-udyok sa pagbaril niya sa sarili. The report was he was walking back and forth meaning he was undecided. Iyon tawag ang maaaring dahilan. The investigators must recover the gun used and the cell phone he used in talking with the last caller. But the family is not willing to surrender and cooperate. Case closed. Same thing happened to Miriam’s and Failon’s suicide cases.
Hi Anne, very tired after a grueling 23 hours, thanks for asking. 🙂
The news of Angie’s suicide (daw) greeted me, but I felt sorry for the deceased mom, not for him.
Another thing I can say is that I appreciate PNoy letting the investigation unfolds, tamaan na ang tamaan. With his stand to get to the bottom of it, I hope we’re nearing to officially unmask the ‘most powerful’ persons behind the AFP corruption scheme. Ibartolina for life sila sa Munti!
Ah… shocking news greeted you — eek!
Agree with you entirely:
That’s probably why Gloria Arroyo called Angie… She knew that the mask of someone close to her (if not her per se) would eventually be uncovered.
I beg to disagree, truthseeker. Yung kay Miriam and Failon cases were private incidents and had nothing to do with the country and kapinuyan, hindi yun dumaan sa intense grilling sa Senate.
Ganda ng game of tactics na ito. Parang Spy vs. Spy. Setup yung kabila, nagse-setup rin yung kabila. Lamang lagi yung nasa poder siyempre. Di nakayanan ni Reyes maging piyon, he just swallowed the suicide pill. I predict that like dominoes, some will fall, too.
This would never have happened in Gloria’s time. I give that credit to Noynoy, despite what detractors say.
And let’s hope Roy Golez is being straightforward and not trying desperately to muddle the issues here.
Reply to No. 112. I was talking about police investigation. Reyes family refused to surrender the gun and cell phone. Miriam did not surrender the gun used in her son’s suicide and refused autopsy. Ted Failon did not also hand over his cell phone to prove he and his late wife talked before the suicide. All the above have those in common. In an investigation, full cooperation is imperative. Siguro may kaunting jet lag ka. Pls take a little rest and you would be able to comprehend a bit better. Thanks anyway.
About Golez, I don’t know what this guy is up to. Sa pula ba siya o sa puti. Golez was among those who turned against Marcos during the 1986 Edsa Revolt when in fact he was made Postmaster General then. But Golez is a smart guy with lots of credentials. Hayaan na lang natin mag-ingay. Dapat tumakbo siya sa Senado noon pero hindi natuloy. He may be aiming the 2013 election.
Truthseeker…
If he’s aiming at the 2013 election, he will need loads of money. Gloria has lots of it. He was one of the most serious and ardent opportunistic supporters of Gloria early on. Didn’t he serve as her Natl Security Adviser? If I’m not mistaken his vice or assistant was LtGen Vic Mayo, a classmate of Angie Reyes.
On Noynoy getting credit. #113: Tongue, all PeNoy has to do is do nothing and let the hearing proceed. Yeah I agree, that’s +1 for him.
Reply to No.117: Golez was and is a balimbing. What would GMA get mad at others’ attack on Golez? May pinagsamahan o may hawak na baraha si Golez kay GMA.
To Gloria Pidal Arroyo, the man to beat is Trillanes. She’ll train her guns at him even if the generals who supported her must fall one by one by the wayside.
Trillanes has prepared for it. I want to see the team up of Trillanes-Lacson. Kaya Ping, balik ka na sa Senado. Hindi naman maasahan ang Hudas na Honasan na iyan.
Have you guys forgotten another corrupt and evil General? Esperon? He lost in his Congressional attempt thinking by becoming a Congressman he would be free like her boss GMA. Si Esperon ang dapat isunod. Let him commit suicide too.
Anna, Trillanes it is! With the unana’s Hello Reyes call, it’s obvious that she’s afraid of our Sonny, hehehe! Let the game begin bitch!
Kaya nga pinakulong ni bansot si Trillianes for the longest time.
May domino effect itong nangyayari ngayon. Isa isa ng matutumba ang mga salot sa kaban ng bayan.
wow!new thread… 123 post agad! teka, kape lang ako 🙂
Kung may mga ginagamit na banko itong mga magnanakaw na ito, the owners and directors and managers of these banks used should also be looked into. Biruin mong nakapagbukas ng mahigit 100 bank accounts si Garcia and he could move BIG monies so easily in a few days. SA US, kung mag-reremit ka ng mahigit sa $ 3500, maraming tanong. And if you withdraw more than two thousand dollars in one day, it is not that easy. Kaya nga lang may mga internet transfers na ngayon. But even then, dapat palaging may control dito. Those who are able to move large sums of money in so short a time should be so powerful! May kapangyarihan bang ganito si Angie?
I agree, kahit na paganyan ganyan lang si Pnoy, the fact that he is allowing the senate and congress to probe the AFP corruption, maraming points na siya sa akin. Hindi katulad ni bansot na lahat ng pwede niyang gawin, to block the exposes, she did then.
What is the bansot’s business in calling Angie the day before he killed himself? It smells like a rotting rat!
Reyes ended his letter: “Mr. Senator, you owe it to the ordinary citizens of this Republic that you do this. Please let us not keep the people and the issue hanging.”
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Ano bale? Trillanes is smarter than ‘they’ think.
If only Reyes had the guts and balls to pin down the true source and beneficiaries of the pabaon, he would have partly redeemed himself. But it looked like he was too scared, he wanted Trillanes himself to name the bottomless thief/thieves by using the “owe” to the people psyche.
Gusto nya ibigay kay Trillanes ang burden of proving that the powerful person did the crime. The Senator is not naive to yield and entangle himself in a mess them corrupt created.
Btw, where is Mike Pidal, don’t tell us nagtatae na naman sya! :}
Sigurista talaga si Bansot ng mabalitaan na nag pakamatay si Reyes ay siya agad ang pumunta sa hospital. Di para makiparamay kundi para tiyakin na patay na nga si Reyes. Baka mag salita at mag bago pa si Reyes kung nang hihingalo na. Siguro kung 50 – 50 pa ang buhay ni Reyes ay siguradong papatayin ni Bansot Si Reyes sa hospital para tago pa rin ang kanilang secreto .
DUWAG lang ang nagpapakamatay dahil takot nilang harapin ang hamon ng buhay.
Palagay ko tayong mga Ellenvillians ay di welcome doon sa mga pamilya ni Reyes na makiramay.
Sinubukan yata ng mga pamilya ni Bansot na gayahin si Reyes na magbaril sa puso kaso WA-Epek dahil wala silang mga PUSO.
Kasalanan ng mga taga-Ombudsman ang nangyaring ito,kung di sana sila nakipag-plea bargaining kay Garcia di hindi sana nabusisi ang lahat ng ito na kinasasangkutan ng mga henerals,misis at baka pati mga kabit ay sabit na rin.
Masaya ata si Pechay sa pagkamatay ni Reyes, parang laging siyang nakangiti. Isa pa ito na hangang sa ngayon parang malakas, hindi natitinag sa pwesto, kahit na balitado ang pagka corrupt nito, kahit saang pwesto malagay.
Reply to No.131: On the contrary, it was a blessing in disguise that there was a hearing on Garcia’s Plea Bargain. Otherwise, the investigation could stop at Garcia. Nakita mo na si Garcia na puro invoke sa kanyang right. Lahat na ito ay nagsimula sa Pidal hearing kung saan ayaw magsalita si FG.
#133
Agree..
Pati pala si Pechay ayun kay Rabusa ay nag hauling din,kaya lang sa karamatilya lang ang pinanghakot niya di tulad nila ni Ligot at Garcia na 10 wheelers ang pinanghakot.
Kung si GMA ay babaril sa kanyang sarili, dapat sa kanyang nunal.
I’m sorry my friends. I don’t know how far this case would go. Like the many other cases in the past even bigger than this one, they did not prosper. Ang nakikinabang lang sa mga ganitong mga balita ang media. Naghahanap sila ng scoop every day. Hindi naman natin sila masisi kasi trabaho nila iyan.
Sa mga ibang ahensya ng gobyerno, ano kaya ang pinang hu hauling nila ng mga nakulimbat.
Kapangalan pa nitong Gen. Carlos Garcia ang dating Pangulong Carlos Garcia. Isa pa iyon mga Garcia ng Cebu na siga noon panahon ni GMA. Ang GSIS Chief na si Winston Garcia, basta pinalitan na lang ba na walang kaso laban sa kanya? Ang dami ko pa naman kaibigan na Garcia na matitino. Isa na ang idol kong artistang si Rodolfo Garcia noon.
Sa next hearing, dapat basahin ni Trillanes kung ano ang sulat na pinaabot sa kanya ni Reyes.
Si Gen. Garcia naman, may balita akong magbabanta siya sa next hearing na kung hindi tumigil ang mga Senador sa kanya, magpapakamatay din siya tulad ni Reyes. Pero hindi sa puntod ng kamag-anak niya. In front of the bank where he has the biggest deposit…
Angie Reyes is gone. He killed himself after acknowledging that his support group is “Nila-laglag” na siya. Especially so, after receiving the phone call from Gloria. Whom, he shared with Cmdr. Rex Robles, was more like “Grilling him” than supporting him/ Under cross examination by Gloria. I view this as like a “prep” by Gloria to get inside the head of Angie Reyes, and what he could divulge when he gets back to the Senate or Congress, not to mention the possibility that Mrs Reyes would be “invited” as well.
Investigation and hearing by Senate has been set aside until Feb 18, (correct ba?). Did anyone from the Senate or Congress subpoena the personal Computer, Black book_if any, Phone records, Bank Transactions of Angie Reyes? Prsonal effects of Angie Reyes could reveal some inetresting information which could assist the investigation. Hope it is not too late to salvage whatever information is stored.
Noting that Gloria and Mike Defensor_the cleaner, have spoken with the family of Reyes at Quirino Memorial Hospital.
Having said what must be, i think the only way we can eradicate corruption is to remove its incentive.
We can’t solve a problem with the same mentality that created it. We must step outside the box.
We need to get to the bottom of Angie’s letter and what his conversation with GMA was. Robles knows more than what he wants to tell us. I agree. GMA could be instructing Reyes what to say and not what to say in the next hearing. Knowing the arrogant style of Reyes now that he’s no longer under his boss, he might have resented it. Instead of following what he’s told to say but GMA, he chose to kill himself.
Incentive is not wrong per se. Corruption is not only limited to AFP but all government agencies. Even private enterprises. Ano na ang nangyari sa wide scale bank scam in Binondo involving a Tsinoy son of Manila Counsilor Bernie Ang? Dalawang araw lang ang balita sa diaryo, wala na. I’m sorry but media is partly to blame. Mainit lang sila kapag mainit ang balita. Sometimes, media is also selective in its reports and coverage. Alam niyo na ang mga iyan.
I don’t usually look into a family’s personal affairs or relationship between husband and wife. But there are good decent men who make mistakes because of their wives’ extravagant lifestyles. Di ba si Imelda ang sumira kay Marcos? That might be the case of Reyes whose wife might be very demanding. Para walang away, hinayaan na lang ni Reyes ang asawa na kumurakot. Nakinabang man si Reyes, maaaring mas malaki ang sa asawa. That’s also the case of most cops who have more than one wife to feed. Saan sila kukuha kundi sa kotong. As long as Filipinos do not live up to the Filipino and Catholic values, corruption and wrongdoings shall continue.
I was wondering kung saan nakuha ni Mrs. Garcia ang ginastos niya sa mga travels niya (42?)…akala ko nanalo siya sa lotto..yon pala ni loot ng asawa niya ang pera ng military..mas lalo segurong natatakot na si Garcia ngayon..
will he be next????
Rose, ang AFP daw ang nagbabayad ng expenses ni Mrs tapos may binibigay daw si Rabusa na $ 10,000 pang shopping. Kung minsan humihirit pa at humihingi pa ulit ng $ 5000. These are per testimony of Rabusa.
#65, jug, ang lalim ng pagkakahukay ng link mo ah.. tikas talga ni Lacson!
Bibigyan ba ng full military honors si Sec. Reyes? May suggest ako, dapat meron ding 21 gun salute pero dapat gamitan ng live bullets at nakatutok sa lahat ng members ng Pidal mafia at lahat ng guilty sa AFP scam. >:
@truthseeker “si Golez balimbing.” Agree ako dyan 200 percent. In fact dumalaw pa sa base ng ops namin laban kay Cory Aquino sa presidential election ng 1985.
Reply to No.150: Pero mahusay naman ang trabaho niya bilang Postmaster General noon.
@truthseeker and @romyman re: “si Golez balimbing”
Ano ang mas aasim pa sa “balimbing”? Ang galing maghanap ng pwesto ang lolo niyo tuwing hearing. Bumili na lang kaya siya ng sarili niyang TV Station or mag-upload na lang ng videos niya sa youtube para sa kanya lang ang focus ng camera?
It is just so sad how lawmakers are being swallowed by the “dirty political dinosaur”.
@truthseeker
“I’m sorry but media is partly to blame”. Why blame the media? Media’s role here is limited to informing the public by reporting the news, no more no less. The blame lies solely on the shoulder of the agencies/people mandated to prosecute wrongdoers !! Specifically to the following.
1. Investigators who hides, dilute or destroy evidences.
2. Prosecutors who lawyers for the accused.
Classic example nito ang case ni Garcia at pag-insist ng Special Prosecutors that there was no 50m missing since they (AFPGHQ accountants) was able to reconcile and account for the 50m reported missing by Ms. Mendoza. Reconciliation is an accounting practice where book discrepancies are resolve by examining available documents and posting corrective entries. The question here is did the Special Prosecutors looked beyond the documents and examined the relationships of each documents and posited them in a time-line?
Hindi naman ganyan si Golez noon. Nakain na din siguro ng maruming sistema ng pulitika. Let’s also get back at those who abused their power during GMA’s regime. Nandiyan si Pichay at mga galamay ni GMA. Isang maliit na langgam lang si Golez compared to those GMA boys. Kilala niyo kung sinu-sino sila.
Wag niyo namang laitin si Cong. Golez. Sige kayo kapag nagalit yan baka suntukin kayo niyan. Tandaan niyo, dati siyang kampyonatong boksingero.
Pero wag kayong magalala, pwede niya kayong bigyan ng extra income, sumali lang kayo bilang Forever Living agent. Maganda ang kita diyan. 😛
Reply to No.153: I guess you know what “partly” means. I was not totally blaming media. But there are those in media who are irresponsible, corrupt, tumatanggap ng payola. If you still disagree with me, you better return to the barracks.
Reply to No. 85, request lang.. lagyan mo ng blogger’s name yung comment mo sa comment mo sa bloggers… para madaling sundan baliktaktakan nyo… reader muna ko ngayon.. 🙂
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20110209-319320/DZIQ-Ex-defense-chief-set-up-Palace-should-speak-out-says-friend
Retired Commodore Rex Robles told “Tapatan” that the alleged exposé by former military budget officer George Rabusa on the P50 million “send-off” money to Reyes and to other former chiefs of staff was a “smokescreen” to hide the truth that the former military comptroller facing plunder for amassing illegal wealth and the main subject of these inquiries was being protected by the government.
Si robles lalo lang ginagawang kawawa si Angie Reyes… kung totoo yan, para na nyang sinabing duwag si Reyes… naset-up lang.. nagpakamatay na… haayy!! san na ba napunta mga utak nito? kaya siguro ngpakamatay si Reyes, hindi napayuhan ng maayos ng bopol ang kaibigan!
Q: bakit sa puso ngbaril si Reyes, hindi sa ulo?
A: baka kasi hindi igrant ng SC yung petition nya at sabihing.. sorry Angie, to represent 1-UTAK.. you should have atleast 1…
ok, korni! 🙂
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212508/sc-yet-to-resolve-angelo-reyes-petition-despite-his-death
Robles knows a lot. Dapat tawagin siya sa next hearing. Tutal dakdak ng dakdak siya sa media, buti pa sa Senate hearing na lang siya magdakdak.
Sa susunod na election, papalitan na ang 1-UTAK Party list at ang pangalan ay gagawing 1-PUSO Party List in memory of Angie Reyes.
Mukhang may mali sa mga binitawang salita ni Ms. Daza, ““Until the end, he was an officer, a gentleman. He did not betray anyone, he did not squeal,” Daza said.
Sa kanila tama, naging opisyal, a gentleman si General Reyes. He did not betray anyone, he did not squeal Gloria. Pero sa pamilya nya at taong bayan, hindi sya naging tapat sa kanyang sinumpaang tungkulin! He never was and He’ll Never will, patay na eh!
@truthseeker re : #156
Agree meron talaga media practitioners na corrupt, kahit na barya barya papatulan moreso kung libo libo na pinag-uusapan.
In the same vein that we condemn these corrupt media practitioner then very high commendation is deserve by the responsible media people the author of this blog, Ellen, included.
Returning to the topic I started re Special Prosecutors lawyering for Garcia after the AFPGHQ Accountants reconciled and certified that the 50m was not missing. Were the documents used to account and reconcile the missing 50m checked, verified and authenticated by an independent Audit Team not the resident COA auditor team.
#160 TS, ano sasabihin nya sa hearing? sabi po kasi skin ni Angie ganito, Sabi nya sakin ganire? sabi skin ganyan? paktay! mabuti pang tumawag na lang ng spritista!
—“Former Secretary Angelo Reyes just inherited a [rotten] system and he wasn’t greedy,” said retired commodore Rex Robles in an interview on Tuesday with anchor Ramon Tulfo on his top-rating public service show “Isumbong Mo Kay Tulfo” on DZIQ 990 AM Radyo Inquirer.
how disheartening to read a statement like this from a so-called “CAVALIERS”.
nasan ang tikas ng mga sundalong opisyal na ito halimbawa ni Commodore Rex Robles – (an equivalent of a colonel in army)isang RAM member, na sabihing minana lamang ni Gen. Reyes ang isang bulok na sistema? ang ibig ba nyang sabihin, na dahil minana lamaang eh hindi na gagawa ng paraan para baguhin at itama? At kung mas ahead siya ng isang taon kay Gen. Reyes, bakit hindi nya sabihin yun mga salita nya sa kanyang sarili. Remember, Commodore Robles, you once belong to an orranization which espoused for a “REFORM” in the Armed Forces. And where do you stand now?
Dahil ba sa kayong mga RAM eh nakapwesto na?
Romy, commissioned officer ka ba o enlisted man. The manner you write and reason tells me you’re a gentleman-officer.
Reply to No. 163: Robles’ testimony could be collaborated by a Psychic. Di ba gumagamit din ang mga pulis ng Psychic Detective to solve crime? The Senate could hire the services of Madam Auring. Balita kong mura lang ang singil niya.
I worked with the Phil govt. before, specifally sa financial dept. ng isang agency. I did some contract job sa J6 and C6 but that was a long time ago.
So when the special prosecutor mentioned that it took 3 years for the AFPGHQ Accounting dept to account for the missing 50m it smells fishy. These are the possibilities.
1. It took them 3 years to manufacture the documents to liquidate/account for the 50m.
2. It took the owner of the account(it was a personal savings account) 3-years to return the 50m minus the earned interest. 3-years 50M at 5.5 percent p/a interest alone is about 7m.
“The investigators must recover the gun used and the cell phone he used in talking with the last caller.” -ts
Investigators need the cell phone to eavesdrop on the conversation? Another “only in da pilipins” na naman.
Re # 162 ,the missing P50 M at UCPB. In the first testimony of Heidi Mendoza she produced an email from a US DOJ agent saying that the certification of UCPB that the UCPB accounts were in order was a snow job. It was teh result of a hocus-pocus operation.
The P50 million at UCPB Tordesillas st which the bank officials said that’s where the missing P50 million was found was a completely new account.
You are right about your #166 comment. naghanap ng perang pang-open ng bagong account. it was still our money.
@ellen re : 167
It is obvious that the special prosecutors/Tanodbayan diluted/diminished their evidences. M. Gutierrez and the special prosecutors talked lengthily about how weak their evidences against Garcia were they never explained how strong their evidences are, that is strange really.
They did not go beyond the documents meaning they did not want to know the story behind the documents. Having custody of the most incriminating evidences the Tanodbayan/Special Prosecutors used their access to lawyer for Garcia and worked to undermine the evidences probative value.
M. Gutierrez is the biggest stumbling block for good governance. GMA made very smart but devious appointments before leaving Malacanang to wit,
1. M. Gutierrez – Tanodbayan
2. Corona – Chief Justice
3. Bunye – Monetary Board (Money Laundering)
Paano na ang pinaka ulo ng lahat ng korapsyon?
Hahayaan na lang ba na makalusot si Gloria?
As I have said before, and I say again, the only sin Reyes committed was not stopping the pabaon system and benefited from it.
Isn’t the pabaon system different from the Garcia case and therefore Reyes was not complicit? Anyone care to clarify this point?
Maniwala kayo, hindi na rin yan makatulog si Putot. Masyado nang praning sa mga kasalanan niya. Ipit na nga si Reyes, pinepressure pa kung si Magdangal nga ang nag-abot ng sulat kay AT4.
Bakit? Marami sigurong alam si Magdangal na bulok niyang lihim bilang dating military aide, baka siya pa ang kolektor/bagman ni Putot ng suhol mula kay Ligot, Garcia at iba pa.
Diba’t umattend ng committee hearing sa Camp Aguinaldo pero isang oras na late? Ilang minuto lang umuwi na. Takot sigurong makorner siya ng mga kawal na sinalbahe nila sa matagal na panahon.
Di naman siguro magpapakamatay si Reyes kung nakulitan lang. Baka na-blackmail na may kinalaman sa pamilya. Wala akong makitang mabigat na dahilan upang magpakamatay si Reyes kung nakanti lang ng konti ang kanyang pride o pagkalalaki dahil sa congressional hearings. Sa isang malalim na tao gaya ni Reyes, mababaw na dahilan pa yan para magpakamatay. Kung pamilya na ang nate-threaten, ibang usapan na iyan.
Kaya para tanghalin siyang isang hero, no way! Libingan ng mga Bayani, di siya bagay, di naman niya ipinagtanggol ang bansa, inilaglag pa nga niya tayo from the frying pan (Erap) into the fire (Putot).
Sorry uli, no sympathies here. Yung ibibili ko ng bulaklak, ipakain ko na lang sa isang pamilya sa tambakan.
@romyman,
Re: Corona,
the problem with these in-aid-of-legislation investigations is that the evidence may be weak when they are subjected to the more rigorous process of the courts. This is the primary reason why none of these senate investigations progressed to the courts. If there is any advantage of these investigations, it is to pre-condition public opinion before any judicial process. Pulitika lang ito, ika nga.
@NFA rice re : 174
I am not referring to the evidence presented to the Congress comittee hearings but to the evidences culled by H Mendoza’s team and turned-over to the Tanodbayan.
It wasn’t just the pabaon system that Rabusa exposed. The monthly “allowance” of P5M for Reyes’ office, P5M for his own pocket (Totalling P100M each for his 20-month stint as CSAFP) and a discretionary fund of P20M that only CSAFP can touch. Add that to the P50M pabaon plus the 42 travels his wife made each costing the AFP $10,000 plus some more extra shopping money. Ballpark figure: about P300M looted from AFP funds. Any way you look at it, it’s plunder.
I have forgotten the exact timelines to confirm this but if you take Rex Robles word for it, he was not Gen. Garcia’s CSAFP but Gen. Ligot’s. It was also Ligot’s wife that was Mrs. Reyes constant travel companion.
That’s in response to #172
If they need help with getting bank docs from JP Morgan Chase regarding the UN funds Heidi wants audited, they can seek the help of another whistleblower, Joey De Venecia, whose brand new wife is JPMC’s country manager for the Phils.
If they need help with getting bank docs from JP Morgan Chase regarding the UN funds Heidi wants audited, they can seek the help of another whistleblower, Joey De Venecia, whose brand new wife is JPMC’s country manager for the Phils.
@TonGuE-tWisTeD,
So why Trillanes insists on Reyes as Garcia’s protector? And if we take Rabusa’s word for it, Reyes’ corruption was relatively benign. I am not impressed with Reyes’ suicide, but it is fair to say he was a victim of selectivity and persecution.
nakup may multo na naman. Angie, pwede ba?
Reyes’ corruption was relatively benign? What on earth could you mean, NFA?
Trillanes knows the real score, he and Garcia shared some years in the same detention and maybe a lot of the secrets, too, but since Garcia has already expressed he won’t turn state witness, Trillanes says that based on Rabusa’s testimony Reyes appears to be one of the protectors (not the exact words) of the shenanigans in AFP. It is one of the techniques used in investigations. You pin one, a different guy, usually the softie of the two, sings. But in this case Reyes was the softie and Garcia, the hardened one.
@AnnaDeBrux,
Here is an article in the abs-cbn news website regarding Rabusa’s views on Reyes:
“If only Angelo Reyes did not take his “pabaon,” he would have been a good Armed Forces chief of staff with a legacy of being a generous provider, military corruption whistleblower George Rabusa said on Friday.”
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/04/11/rabusa-reyes-yes-youre-not-greedy
90-minute time out muna ako. Azkals vs. Mongolia muna. Later!
Based on Rabusa’s statements, the illegal monthly allowances and funding for the wive’s shopping sprees could also be ‘tradition’ in the AFP. It is doubtful that Reyes is the only guilty CoS here and probably there are others even worse than he was.
If the senate is sincere in this investigations, and they have gone to the deeper into Reyes, and this corruption is tradition, why not investigate the others as well. Bakit si Reyes lang?
Oh ayan na.. lusot ang asawa ni Reyes
“Jinggoy wants Reyes’ wife spared from Senate probe”
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/09/11/jinggoy-wants-reyes-wife-spared-senate-probe
NFA,
I think if investigations are continued, it [investigating the others as well] will ultimately lead to that.
I think that someone is trying to muddle up the plea bargain issue and I too would like to know.
My contention with regard to your affirmation, i.e., Reyes’ corruption was benign, is that corruption by a top military honcho can never be benign. (What did you mean by benign corruption in the first place? Did you mean accepting money that’s not yours in the region of a few millions is benign corruption?)
Now, that’s not ‘benign’ at all!!! 😛
@AnnaDeBrux,
I am of course comparing Reyes to those within the AFP. Besides, this is not only my opinion, but to another central AFP insider too — Rabusa.
correction to #191
“… but opinion of another AFP insider — Rabusa”
instead of
“… but opinion to another AFP insider too — Rabusa”
@AnnaDeBrux #189,
Yung iba diyan, nag deny lang na nakakurakot sila through pabaon, lusot na agad. pero iba ang naging treatment kay Reyes.
Then I would disagree with Col Rabusa too if he classified corruption by a chief of staff Armed Forces of the Philippines as benign.
Corruption committed at that level cannot be classified as benign.
With regard to:
I don’t know if they are lusot. I should hope not but your remark is pertinent. There must have been a bit vengeance there too (after all Reyes led the coup d’état against a sitting president, father of the senator-investigator.) I do hope that they’d go after the others too.
That said, could have been circumstancial too, or even tactical, Reyes being the biggest fish among the corrupt generals, by virtue of his proximity and alliance with Gloria Macapagal, was pinned down first… If that’s the case, then I’m all for it (provided they pin down all the others too, i.e., one by one.)
@AnnaDeBrux,
Of course you disagree with Rabusa. But Rabusa was an AFP insider and he was privy to the reality within that organization and was even a center of corruption. That is why I believe his opinion on Reyes.
Don’t you think that political agenda (ie, his proximity to Gloria Arroyo) makes his death reflect badly on the senators?
As noted before, these investigators have already given the others a pass.
They won’t investigate Reyes’ family anymore, their mission on Reyes was done.
# re 185: Yeheeey. Philippines, 2- Mongolia 0 !
Re # 183. You are correct, Tongue. Trillanes said Reyes was one of the protectors of Garcia and Ligot based on the rabusa testimony.
It was Ligot who was the comptroller during Reyes stint as AFP chief. But as Defense secretary he has a signing authority over equipment purchase of the the military. When he was defense secretary, Garcia was the comptroller.
PH Team beat Mongolia. We’re slowly being placed on the soccer map. This year’s World Cup is in UK. The only thing I don’t quite like about our team is that half of it are European-Filipinos many of whom don’t speak a bit of Filipino.
Iyan din ang reklamo ng Indonesia na sinabing parang European team ang nakalaban nila.
Yung iba diyan, nag deny lang na nakakurakot sila through pabaon, lusot na agad. pero iba ang naging treatment kay Reyes. – NFA Rice
Don’t get confused, let’s put your conclusions in the proper perspective.
Yung mga nag-deny doon yun sa hearing ng House, halos lahat pinatawag at yung denial was noted into the records. After all, they were all under oath. Wala tayong magagawa, engot yung Committee Chairman doon e.
In the Senate, it was only Reyes who came, because among the three CSAFPs mentioned in Rabusa’s testimony, only Reyes was available. How can you conclude that Reyes was singled out?
You cannot make that shotgun conclusion since it is still only Rabusa who is testifying. Who knows maybe the other Budget Officers that succeeded Rabusa (or the equivalent position, if they have dissolved the old plantilla) will have the same moral courage to come out and reveal their own knowledge of the scandals by their CSAFPs in their own stints.
We have just started the game, a few minutes after kick-off and you are already shouting Luto! Luto!
I’m curious to know how many members of this Blog are based abroad. The way they share their comments appear that they are more knowledgeable than residents in the Philippines. Pero ang mga balita siguro kinuha lang sa online, email, tawag mula sa kaibigan o TFC na available sa US at Canada.
Siguro din matagal nang hindi nakapasyal sa Pilipinas. Pero ang mga opinion very impressive. Kaya lang kung minsan di kilala o di alam kung sinu-sino ang pinag-uusapan.
What am I driving at? To have a more balance sharing of opinion, why don’t our OFWs and foreign based friends visit the Philippines once in a while to get first hand information. Kung sa bagay, itong Blog na ito ay sapat na dahil credible naman ang mga sinusulat ni Ellen. Medyo turn off lang kung minsan dahil kung sino ang wala sa Manila, iyon pa ang argumentative.
No harm intended. Just making a point. Thanks.
Now that Reyes has joined his Creator, suggestion is being made by the Senate with Jinggoy himself wanting to end the hearing and not call Reyes’ wife to testify anymore. Ano ba Jinggoy? Akala ko astig ka at matapang. Nambabatok ka pa noon kahit na larong basketball lang. Don’t tell us you feel guilty with Reyes’ suicide. Tuloy and hearing. Kung hindi, sino na ang maniniwala sa inyo?
Thanks for reminding, Ellen. Oo nga pala, he still has supervision over the whole organization during Garcia’s time, but at the level of DND Sec.
I am trying very hard to grasp all the details that has come out recently in order to share it with those who missed the show. Pero grabe ito, info overload na ‘ko. Tamad na kasing mag-blog e.
(BTW, I’ve just retrieved the password of my blog, it was taped under the old keyboard I donated to the barangay hall. Hehehe. Buti nandoon pa. Makapag-update nga ng blog…)
Ito si Ms Daza naman diverting the real issue.
It is not the “betrayal or squealing” of another persons. It is the betrayal of the trust bestowed upon Angelo Reyes as former Chief of the Armed Forces. It is the betrayal of the Filipino taxpayers of hard earned money and the foreign donors. It is blood money.
Angelo Reyes was the upright person at the wrong company and at the wrong time. He lacked the moral strength of upholding the Academy virtue of Honor.but appears to have protected another person, a believer of “the buck stops at his office.”
“Oh ayan na.. lusot ang asawa ni Reyes”
Abah, eh anong mangyayari sa 8 bahay sa tate, at mga mansion sa Pilipinas? Iyon yata ang dahilan kung bakit nagpakamatay, ayaw niyang mabawi ang mga properties na pati para sa mga apo naipundar na.
Dapat ay tuloy para complete ang lessons to be learned, hindi half baked.
I’m curious to know how many members of this Blog are based abroad. The way they share their comments appear that they are more knowledgeable than residents in the Philippines.<<>>Medyo turn off lang kung minsan dahil kung sino ang wala sa Manila, iyon pa ang argumentative.—> truthseeker – February 10, 2011 1:21 am
Does it really matter ? I, for one, do not care much where our co-bloggers come from. Whether malakas o mahina ang dating ng mga opinion natin dito (whether from abroad or local) is not really the issue (or is it ?). Unless of course anybody wants to dispute or challenge the opinion of any one of us, then that is his/her prerogative. Otherwise, just let it go. Huwag na lang nating pansinin. Everybody wants to be heard. And that’s what makes this blog so controversial. We have as many varying opinions as there are bloggers. One’s opinion is just that……………….an opinion.
Dapat ituloy ang pagiimbestiga. Ang mga nagkasala ay dapat lang na maparusahan kahit sino pa sila. Kung nagpakamatay si Reyes e problema na niya iyon.
Engot(talaga naman) din pala etong si Erap Jr. .. dehins na daw isama sa imbestigasyon yong asawa ni Reyes. Papano kung mapatunayang ang ibang bahay ng asawa ni Ligot sa Amerika ay kila Reyes pala. Ano ha! ha! ha!!!!!!! TY na lang ganun ba?
there is no question mayaman na ang asawa ni Reyes…pero may life insurance ba siya?…pero ang pagkakaalam ko hindi covered ang suicide kaya ang maging labas ay “he accidentally shot himself” which could be because at that moment hindi na niya alam ang gagawin niya…pero para sa akin he deserves to be given military honor…he was a military man at the time of his death…it was his career…
#201. I’m curious to know how many members of this Blog are based abroad. The way they share their comments appear that they are more knowledgeable than residents in the Philippines.<>Medyo turn off lang kung minsan dahil kung sino ang wala sa Manila, iyon pa ang argumentative.—> truthseeker – February 10, 2011 1:21 am
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Why is it so important to you to know the whereabouts of Ellen’s bloggers? Nakakaligaw ka naman ng diskusyon e.
I agree with jawo 100%, our comments matters, not the origins of the bloggers.
matter (correction)
Tedanz, engots na tunay si Erap dayunyor talaga, hahaha! Parang si Rex Robles, ‘rambol’ ang tuktok. 🙂 Kaya ako ay hindi extended sa kanya ang pagiging erapian, 🙂 🙂 🙂
The more they should question the ex AFP first ladies if they really wanted to know the truth.
Gago talaga itong si Jinggoy, pumuporma nang hindi in synch sa isyu! Iyan ang political prostitute hindi si Trillanes! Paging Rex Robles….
The wives and children should be called and questioned too. Perhaps include mistresses if ever there is any as well.
Garcia’s family are deeply involved in the AFP corruption. Angie Reyes has had Two Comptrollers during his stint_Garcia (DND) and Ligot (CSAFP). Garcia could have briefed Reyes on how to launder the funds using his family. The bottomline here is not to cease the investigation just because Angie Reyes took his own life. Not much is being said about the effect of the conversation Angie Reyes had with Gloria.
It seems that Rex Robles has been giving clues to all, that Angie became more depressed and felt alone after the phone conversation with Gloria.
During the elections Gloria was branded Kiss of Death, especially in the case of Gibo. With this incident, Gloria has proven that she is literally The Kiss of Death.
Reyes could have been thinking that the investigation would stop if he chooses to take the easy way out and spare his wife_probably children from being summoned to testify. News being received lately, appears his thinking is correct.
I sure hope that the Senators are wise enough to know that The Buck Does Not Stop on Reyes’ desk. The investigation must continue.
tuloy ang imbestigasyon. mas higit pa bang matimbang ang pagkawala ng isang Heneral na nabalot ang pagkatao ng dungis ng korupsyon kaysa sa 90 milyones na Pilipinong naghahangad na maputol na ang KORUPSYON. – comment from saudi arabia
If Jinggoy cannot stomach and finish the investigation on account of his seeming guilt in Angie’s death, then take a hike, senator. Better still, why not do an Angie yourself and give the responsibility to someone else ?
212/213/214/: Totally agree. Another useless senator whom I have no trust whasoever, such a yellow-belly. It’s the people’s money that was stolen here afterall. To give so much hope to the downtroddens that finally there’s an ounce of justice in the air; then one idiot do a 360 degrees on this greed and curruption probe is pure blind optimism. Another blackeye for poorest of the poor. Tiis ulit mga kababayan. Kawawa naman yung pamilya ni Angie.
Hindi puede itigil ang investigation, paano natin malaman ang totoo at ma recover ang pera ng Filipino at ang para sa ating sundalo. Si TG Guingona naman ang chairman ng Blue Ribbon Committee hindi si Jingoy. Wala namang sinabi si TG. Wala ng close door hearing, gusto namin malaman ang buong katotohanan.
206/jawo: Pati ba naman ikaw being sucked into the truth sicker’s web? Gusto lang ng lintik, he’s the center of attraction sa ellenville, only if we allow it…kaya silence is golden muna sa mga ngawa nya, hehe…no pun ts.
Kilalang-kilala ni pare cocoy mo tao na yan, tru!
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ang sabi seguro ng Nanay niya…Anak bakit pa kita isinilang? Magpakamatay ka lang pala! Naghirap pa ako. but…as we say…huli na ang pasisisi.
Chi,
Salat na salat ko talaga ang paningit.Hehehehe!
Hey guys, seriously, I just watched Nat Geo’s program tonight about CIA secrets and those conspiracy theories we have been reading lately in Facebook and blogs may have a grain of truth after all.
Post-hypnotic suggestion puts a subject under something like a spell that makes him do things unconsciously and outside his free will. That it may be triggered, among other things, by a phone call. The undertaker’s statement that he witnessed Reyes getting a call from his cellfone made him more depressed and a few minutes later, he shot himself.
That theory still stands with Sirhan Sirhan who, despite several brain tests administered unto him cannot remember the details of his assassinating Robert F. Kennedy. In the movie Manchurian Candidate, it was the sight of a playing card with the queen of diamonds on its face that triggered the post-hypnotic mission.
Not far-fetched in Reyes case? What do you think?
CGMA made bulong to General Reyes?
Bulong, as in yung bagong movie ni Vong Navarro? Ngayon ko lang nasakyan. Pang horror-comedy nga yata itong duwendeng pandak na unanong putot.