By Vincent Cabreza
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Moshe Dacmeg, 19, was almost thrown out of the hotel’s conference hall on Wednesday by an unidentified American and two hotel employees who regarded his Kankanaey G-string attire as inappropriate.
Dacleg is an aide of Vladimir Cayabas, administrator of the Baguio-based National Institute of Information Technology (NIIT), who spent P6,000 to bring the boy and a friend to the lecture.
From China, Ifugao Rep. Teodoro Baguilat Jr. told the Inquirer he was offended by the report.
“Diplomats who come to the Philippines should be educated about cultural sensibilities. A man in a G-string is not a terrorist but an honorable man,” said Baguilat, who chairs the House committee on indigenous cultural communities.
Cayabas, a Kankanaey from Mountain Province, had attended formal events in Baguio and the Cordillera wearing a G-string. But for the Clinton lecture, he wore a Cordillera-inspired Barong Tagalog. His female companion was in a Kankanaey “tapis” (skirt).
When they arrived at the hotel at 3 p.m., Cayabas said, they showed the hotel security guards their bags containing the G-string and an indigenous head dress which Cayabas planned to wear at the lecture.
No dress code
“We were let through so we assumed it would not be a problem. Our tickets never indicated a dress code, and we were there to offer our cultural presence [given Clinton’s topic],” Cayabas said.
Shortly before the lecture began, Cayabas claimed, an American approached them and motioned Dacmeg to leave.
“The American kept telling us he would not mind dragging Moshe out of the conference hall if the boy insisted on being stubborn. He repeated this several times and I was confused because I did not know what he meant,” Cayabas said.
“Each time we tried to answer, the American would say ‘Don’t argue with me,’” he said.
The American left the NIIT group when he noticed the presence of television cameras, Cayabas said. But a few minutes later, a woman also approached them and asked Dacmeg to leave the area.
“That’s when I got angry. I refused. I said we paid for our tickets and we insisted on listening to the lecture,” Cayabas said.
Some television news reporters urged Dacmeg to wear a T-shirt to help appease hotel officials, but Cayabas said he refused because doing so would dishonor the G-string.
“In our culture, you do not mix the G-string with other attire,” he said.
Outraged
“But it was cold so I allowed Moshe to finally wear the shirt. Then we listened to Clinton preach about embracing our common humanity. That we should all embrace economic and cultural interdependence. We were amused by the irony,” Cayabas said.
Outraged messages began circulating online among the Igorot community after members learned about the incident.
From China, Ifugao Rep. Teodoro Baguilat Jr. told the Inquirer he was offended by the report.
“Diplomats who come to the Philippines should be educated about cultural sensibilities. A man in a G-string is not a terrorist but an honorable man,” said Baguilat, who chairs the House committee on indigenous cultural communities.
Baguio Mayor Mauricio Domogan also waded in after his wife, Becky, was mistakenly identified as a member of Cayabas’ group. Domogan, a former Baguio representative, had also worn a G-string in various government affairs.
“[Dacmeg] looked good in G-string. It is very refreshing that young people are proud of their heritage and culture… In our culture, G-strings are worn on any occasion. It’s just a matter of how we present ourselves while wearing them,” she said.
For the education of those who are ignorant about the Igorot’s indigenous clothing, here’s a link on how to wear a G-String.
Hay naku, ano ba yan? The topic ‘our common humanity’ is so out of touch with the realities of different cultures. Sayang lang ang ibinayad sa ticket para makinig sa kwento ni Bill na boladas lang pala. Ironic talaga….
Are they Democrats or what? Kaya sila nagkakatalo e, iba ng sinasabi sa ginagawa.
Here’s what Clinton said, according to the Inquirer report:
“Inequality in global economics and instability in world politics are making it difficult for countries like the Philippines to operate on a level equal to more progressive nations…”
He even praised his classmate, whom many Filipinos despise:
“Clinton said he admired the move of his former classmate, Pampanga Rep. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, to file a bill on corporate social responsibility as well as the continued efforts of former President Fidel Ramos to write books and immerse himself in social issues.”
Here’s the link to the news report: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20101112-302762/Clinton-mentions-worlds-3-most-significant-problems
Would you pay P6,000 for this?
Why do these guys keep throwing their weight around here? Anong pakialam nila kung naka G-String siya? That’s culture and they’re here in Baguio. Baka ang mas gusto ni Clinton ang babaeng naka-G String. Why not ask GMA to wear G-String?
I can just imagine how happy Gloria is with Clinton’s praises on her. If I were President Noynoy, I would not have granted Clinton an audience. Wasn’t Pnoy in Cebu or he rushed back to Manila to receive Clinton at Malacanang?
I believe Clinton is not aware of the pinoy’s galit towards her korap classmate. If he was, then he must really be in love with Gloria because of the millions $$$ of our money that the bitch donated to the Clinton Global Initiative.
Listening to his P6000 per head lecture just to hear his praise of Gloria Arroyo is pointless, we know better!
Re #4 ? That’s culture and they’re here in Baguio.-2b1ask1
The event was at the Manila Hotel.
pambihira naman.. kahit saang party at okasyon naman magpunta… dapat inaalam kung ano ang tamang attire para maiwasan ang gulo, diskusyon o abala… hindi katwiran yung hindi nilagay sa invitation card yung tamang attire… common sense naman.. para naman atang nanadya eh… at yun naman talga ang iisipin ng mga dayuhan at hotel employees o securities…
pagka totoo tayo naman tayo..
Grabeng pang-iinsulto ito NOT Once, but Twice…anong sense mayroon ang inilalako ni Clinton ifs wala namang sense of humility ang kanyang staff to handle the affairs?
See…Folks, nangyari na yong sinabi ko sa naunang thread, if na nagawa nila ito kay VP Binay…heto may nabiktima na ulit…isang ordinaryong Pinoy na inspired to attend this conference kahit na gumatos, but ano nangyari…sige ALIS di ka allowed to attend this meeting?
Praning na talaga ang mga Kano…sobra na ang nerbiyos kasi nga baka akala terorista itong si Dacmeg. Ibalik ko sa kanila ang kanilang freak na kukote…sino ba ang producers ng mga high powered na armaments di ba isa ang Tate? Saan gagamitin ito…syiempre magkaroon ng gulo sa isang bansa o mga bansa? Pagkatapos nito…magsisiorder ang bansa kung saan mayroong gulo sa kanilang lugar at dito na papasok ang Kano to sell their armaments para kumita.
In layman’s word, ang kaguluhan sa bawat panig ng mundo is a big business at ang Amerika ang nakikinabang dito dahil ito ang isa sa kanilang business…high end technology to kill and destroy people.
#7 Perl,
Oppps…Igan naman, kanino ka ba talaga nakapanig…doon sa mga Kanote o sa ating kababayan na winalang galang?
Not Once, but Twice na itong pangyayari…matatanggap ko na yong ginawa nila kay VP Binay pero remember mo ba yong mga patutsada ko sa naunang thread…heto tayong ordinaryong Pinoy na ang biktima…dilang anghel di ba!
Look and medidate…check mo sa WWW and you will see sa bawat conference o anupaman ito…mayroong mga deligado na ang kanilang national dress ang kanilang suot at nagkataon na si Dacmeg e isang Katutubo at proud siya to wear their katutubong kasuotan…what’s wrong if ito ang kanyang suot?
Dito sa middle east…pagdumalo sila sa anumang pagtitipon maging internasyonal o lokal…ang suot nila ang kanilang national dress at bakit wala namang ganyang senaryo na nangyari.
Nasaan ang kanilang pagrespeto sa ibang kultura…they are promoting KUNO ang democracy con equality and partneship, pero anong essence ang mapupulot dito…racism?
Bakit nasabi ko ito…i’m working here in abroad morethan 25 years now at marami na akong nakahalubilong Expats from Asia to around the world at i know their pag-uugali at diskarte pero itong mga Kano, magaling lang silang magIngles…but NOT lahat sa kanila e tama ang grammar…do you know what i mean?
Ang finale…isinusulong nila ang pagbabago ng bawat bansa pero sila ANO…bwahaha…EWAN!
#5 Chi,
Ducking sheet…Igan Chi, grabe na to…e-boycott ang walang kwentang conference ba yan?
Ugali-Asal pala ang dapat itawag sa foundation ni Clinton…walang kwentang conference ito, iba yong TINITINGAN sa TINITITIGAN bwahahahaha……..
Kung ayaw nila e huwag nila…period!
In layman’s word, ang kaguluhan sa bawat panig ng mundo is a big business at ang Amerika ang nakikinabang dito dahil ito ang isa sa kanilang business…high end technology to kill and destroy people.
Natumbok mo Balweg. Patago nilang pipilitin na baguhin ang behaviour ng mga tao hanggang madali nila pati kultura. Para sa ganun, magaya sa kanila ang kahit na anong bansa na sunod-sunuran sa kanila.
#11 Golberg,
Amen…Golberg, inilalako ng Tate ang KUNONG pagbabago at pasakalye nila demokrasya…ululin nila ang lelong nilang panot?
In my 25 years stay dito sa Middle East e dito ko naunawaan ang katotohanan ng buhay, lalo na ang foreign relations nang Tate sa iba’t ibang mga bansa.
Bakit marami ang nagrerebeldeng mga bansa against Amerika? Off course, money matter coz’ito ang kanilang big businnes to sell high end armaments sa mga bansa na mayroong internal kaguluhan or away kalapit-bansa.
Kaya di matatapos ang problema ng bawat bansa till na magSTOP ng kabebenta ng armaments ang Kano? Ang gulo sa Middle East e gawa yan ng mga bansang ang business e armaments…kung walang gulo e wala silang benta at sure bagsak ang kanilang ekonomya.
Ngayon, bagsak ang ekonomya ng Amerika kaya kandarapa sila to sell their armaments or else magclose down ang mga producers ng armas.
Dito sa Middle East e bebenta sila ng Bilyones dahil ang laki ng order ng isang bansa dito sa kanilang armas.
Alam mo, bakit malikot ang aking kukote kasi ganito yan, 20 years ago mayroon akong nakilala na isang Brits pilot at nagbalik-loob sa Lord…ang kwento niya e naging mercenary siya somewhere sa Africa at yong jetfighter niya e napabagsak ng gov’t doon so buti na lamang e nakaligtas siya sa kamatayan.
Dito nagsimula na iwan niya ang negosyong ito at naglingkod na siya sa Lord…grabe pala, para lang mapabagsak ang isang lehitimong gobyerno e covert-action ang ginagawa ng mga malalakas na bansa na akala mo ang sinusuportahan ang legitimate gov’t…pero sa kabila nito e sila rin pala ang nagsusuporta sa mga rebelde upang pataubin ang gobyerno.
In short, kita sila…benta ng armas sa gobyerno at benta supply din ng armas sa mga rebelde o grupong maghahasik ng takot sa mamamayan para makabenta sila ng armas.
In oneshot…2 birds agad ang tepok!
Nangyari yan sa Pinas during Apo Macoy watch…bineybi nila si Macoy after all ng wala na silang mahuthot e lipat-bakod sila sa Yellow armies.
Ibig sabihin…panalo pa rin sila, ganyan katuso ang kanilang Ugali-Asal!
This is a disgrace. Ted Baguilat should direct his disappointment to the Hotel Management and those employees who cowered down when the american told Moshe Dacmeg to leave.
To the employees, knowing that there were no dress codes imposed; and the fact that Clinton’s speech was about “Embracing our Common Humanity”, should have stood their ground, let Moshe go in with his attire and told the american to piss off. For this american not to have any clue of what the speech was all about, he must be an ignorant redneck who doesn’t know the existence of American Indians in his home country who in a way dresses like our own Indigenous People all over the islands.
On a lighter mode; I think Ted Baguilat needs to shape up a little bit, no pun intended.
OT: Two lady congresswomen are attending Pakyaw’s fight in Texas; one of them is the wife of Jose De Venicia. All of a sudden, she is now a fan…or maybe just to support their favorite congressman.
Gluerilla might as well attend, and be at ringside…taga punas ng pawis ni Mani, wink! wink!
Gluerilla has no more use for Slick Willy, what does she care about humanity, being an abuser herself.
RE: ….and the fact that Clinton’s speech was about “Embracing our Common Humanity”, should have stood their ground,… ~true blue
Bwahaha…hallucination Igan, anong “Embracing our Common Humanity?” Ang tamang terminology e, “Barasuhan of our Gimmickry Humanoid.”
In other words, sina VP Binay at Dacmeg e di kabilang sa Humanoid race kaya etchapwera sila…hehehe!
talaga naman tong si clitong, hindi man lang nag research, siguro naman may mga intelligence ek ek sila about political issues natin, wala talagang katuturan yung pinagsasabi niya kung hindi niya gamay ang sensitivities natin…nag homework muna dapat…sa atin hindi genocide ang treatment sa mga katutubo, ano tingin niya parang mga indians nila? pinuri pa si gloria?! talaga naman! eh pumapalpak din pala mga kano eh? kaya pala mababankrupt na sila?
RE: …pinuri pa si gloria?! talaga naman! eh pumapalpak din pala mga kano eh? kaya pala mababankrupt na sila?~juggernaut
Shame to Clickton…gogoyoin pa tayong Pinoy e isinusuka ng Sambayanang Pilipino itong si Gloria, at korek ka na tag-hirap ngayon sa Tate kaya dobleng kayod sila na makabenta ng armas.
Gagawa na naman ng gulo yan sa makursunadahang bansa at palalabasin may threat na namn…kita nýo nangyari sa Yemen ngayon?
Pati aircargo banned ata doon at heto grabe ang higpit ngayon sa mga airlines. Gagawa at gawa ang mga Kamote na yan to shake the world para makabenta sila ng armas etc. etc.
Hindi ko alam kung bakit allergic ang mga ignoranteng Kano sa mga naka-bahag. Di siguro alam ng marami sa kanila na ang Camp John Hay ay nabuo, kasama na ang napakahabang mga kalsada paakyat doon, gawa ng mga Igorot/Ifugao. Ang mga nagsisilbi noon sa kampo ng John Hay Air Base ay mga katutubo. Maging sa official summer residence ng US Ambassador sa kampo ay maraming katutubo.
Insultong malaki para sa mga Igorot ang ismolin ang bahag at dapat nama’y merong katiting na pagkasensitibo ang aide ni Clinton para alamin na ang kasuotang iyan ay marangal at isinusuot ng may paggalang.
Kwento muna ako.
Noong panahon ng martial law, isang Igorot ang nakabahag ngunit naka amerikana (western suit) na may bitbit na bayong na may takip (ano nga tawag doon?) ang pumunta sa opisina ng Ford Motors Phils. sa Makati at hinahanap ang VP na isang Kano. Tinanggap naman ng maayos ng gwardiya at pinaupo habang tinawagan ang sekretarya ng puti. Pinuntahan ng sekretarya upang alamin ang dahilan ng pagbisita ng Igorot, pero sinagot lang ang babae ng “I want to talk to your boss, not you”.
Naghintay ang Igorot ng matagal, nakikita pa niya mula sa lobby na paikot-ikot ang Kano sa opisina pero di man lang siya pinuntahan. Nagpasabi muli ang Igorot sa gwardiya na aalis siya sa loob ng 15 minuto kung hindi siya haharapin ng
Kano.
Walang nangyari kaya umalis ang Igorot na naka-amerikana.
Kumalat ang balita na isang Igorot na naka-amerikana ang nagtungo sa opisina ng International Harvester McLeod sa Pasig na may dalang cash at bara ng ginto ang bumili ng DALAWAMPUNG bus na I.H. matapos isnabin ng Kanong VP ng Ford.
Ang Igorot na nakabahag ay si Atty. Samuel Dangwa, may-ari ng Dangwa Transit na isa ring politiko, huling naging Congressman nung 2007.
Dito sa kanilang bansa, ang mga lalaki ay nagsusuot din ng weird na pang-ibaba, pero tinatanggap pang kagalang-galang ang suot. Yan ay ang palda ng mga Scottish, na tinatawag na kilt. Tapos tutugtog sila ng kanilang bagpipe na parang umaatras na kotse ang tunog.
Sa mga MBA classes o books, maraming kuwento tungkol sa cultural insensitivity ng Kano. Ang isa ay ang commercial ng washing machine sa mga Arabo. Simple lang ang concept, isang litrato sa kaliwa, na si Mrs. may hawak na maruming damit. Sa gitnang larawan, ang damit ay pinapasok sa washing machine. Sa kanan, labas ang damit na malinis na. Nice di ba?
Pero, sa Arabo, ang basa ay kanan, pakaliwa. So hagalpakan ng tawa ang mga Arabo, dahil ang washing machine, tumatanggap ng malinis na damit, paglabas, madumi na. Sinong bibili nun?
Sa Brazil naman, nag-market ng Ford Pinto, na may cult following noong 70s. Cute na sports car, na pang macho.
Kaya lang, sa Brazil, ang “pinto” ay slang na nangangahulugang snub-nose ang kargada ng lalaki. Sinong bibili nun?
Sa Spain naman, nag-market ang Chevy ng kanilang “Nova”. Ngunit sa Kastila, ang “no va” ay nangangahulugang “won’t go”. Again, walang bumili.
I love the story of Igorot Atty. Dangwa. Salamat, Tongue.
Kwento ng puting Kano na landscaper ko sa bundok. Gusto nyang bumili ng Mercedes 320, can afford dahil malaki ang kanyang landscaping business.
Driving his redneck Ford truck to the Chedeng dealer at the now NC’s most progressive city of Greensboro, halos hindi raw sya harapin ng agents because of his pang-bundok attire…in short hindi sya naka-Amerikana. Lapit daw ang manager and rudely told him, “you can’t afford that”.
Sa inis at galit, binuksan ang kanyang backpack at kinuha ang malutong na pang 50% cash pang-down sa Chedeng and said “unlucky you, you could have had a big commission right now” sabay alis. Hinabol daw sya ng manager sa kanyang redneck truck profusely apologizing, but he didn’t pay attention…brooooommm away!
Galit sya sa nga taga city ng US kasi ang yayabang daw and sooo rude. Amerikano na sya ha, taga-bundok nga lang.
Ano ba naman itong mga kano..nasa ating bayan sila..hindi sakop ng America ang Pilipinas…bakit sila ang magdicta sa atin…bakit sila ang mas may kapangarihan sa atin…wala talagang respect sa kanino man,,kahit nga sa kanilang sarili…all I can say is “forgive them for they know not what they are doing”…they taught us how to say please, thank you and all these that are good manners…but they know not what they preach..
ayaw nila ng G-strings..pero puede sa kannila ang streaking..
and the Taxpayers has to pay for his speech..tickets were selling for $5 after paying the General Admission to the EX…poor Billy he is no longer popular in this city.
Clinton’s speech is no sellout
By KEVIN CONNOR, SUN MEDIA
Last Updated: August 29, 2009 3:49am
Former U.S. president Bill Clinton’s speech today at the Canadian National Exhibition isn’t a sellout and taxpayers may have to foot the bill.
There were 25,000 tickets on sale, but as of last night only 9,000 had been purchased, David Bednar, general manager of the CNE, said.
The money funding Clinton’s speech comes from a $3-million federal grant, with terms that the CNE must earn $1 million back from the spent funds.
Clinton can be paid anywhere from $175,000 to $300,000 for a speaking event.
Bednar says he can’t comment on how much it cost to bring Clinton to the CNE.
“Ironically, it will be known once his wife (U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton) does her filing (of family income),” Bednar said.
“People are going on and on that the taxpayer will be on the hook (because of poor sales), but that still remains to be seen.”
Tickets were being sold at a price of $20, $40 and $50 for the best seats.
Today, people can buy tickets for $5 after they have paid the $15 admission into the CNE grounds.
Clinton’s speech, Embracing Our Common Humanity, will last about 45 minutes.
“I don’t know what he will talk about, but I would be surprised if he didn’t talk about the efforts of his foundation,” Bednar said.
“I’m hoping to hear some inspirational words.”
I completely lost my interest in Billy Boy, heh!
Heto na naman! reklamo kaagad sabay iyak sa galit kasi daw niwalang galang daw ang kababayan?
Tsaka lang ba kayo magreklamo ng ganyan pag Aemrikano lang ang gumawa? eh daming kabataang pinoy niwalang galang sa sariling kultura eh!!!!!
Sikat talaga pag kano! pag may mali magawa, sila lang napapansin! bwuahahahahah…. heto ang dalawang common terms pag kalaban amerikano at paulit ulit na sinasabi ng mga makabayan kuno!: 1.)nilapastangan 2.) inaapi…ganyan talaga pag magaling ang gumawa ng propagandang pinapanood,laban sa Amerika! ahhahahahha
RE: Sikat talaga pag kano! pag may mali magawa, sila lang napapansin! bwuahahahahah….~Martinsampaga
Realidad ang isyu not showbiz Igan…ang pagka-Pinoy mo ang bottomline kung bakit dapat bigyan din ang kawalang respeto ng mga Kanote sa mga pobre notOnce, but Twice?
Magpakatotoo sila sa kanilang sarili…we are not stupid, but we are open-minded Pinoy kaya nga welcome sila wholeheartedly pero ano ang pagtrato nila sa mga naging biktima?
Ibig bang sabihin…Yes Maám, Yes Sir na lang tayong Pinoy kung ano ang gusto ng mga Kanote…No way! But doon sa mga ewan na Pinoy e Oks lang kasi they are kissing the asshole ng Kanote mapunta lang sa Tate.
RE: Tsaka lang ba kayo magreklamo ng ganyan pag Amerikano lang ang gumawa? ~Martinsampaga
Opppsss, nothing personal…but ang punto e ang pangbabastos na ginawa ng staff ni Billy Boy kaya ang Pinoy e normal na magpahayag ng kanilang saloobin at karapatan nila yan coz’sila ang biktima not you or whoever ewan Pinoy na walang paki sa nangyari.
Kung walang isyu…e walang istorya at wala tayong pagdidibatihan!
Di kami galit sa Kano…naiinis lang kasi nga yong kanilang Ugali-Asal e wala sa tono, human being ang kanilang kaharap not humanoid hehehe!
Sila ang bumisita sa Pinas upang ilako ang kanilang paninda so dapat maging maginoo naman sila at huwag bastos.
#30-balweg
huwag mo lahatin na buong lahing amerkano ay ganun sa mga kinagagalit mo, tandaan mo, sa staff na yun may taong mas mataas sa pa kanya,sigurado ako may isa sa kanila ay Pilipino din ang lahi….
Hindi kami ass kisser igan, hindi ko ipagyayabang ano ako sa America,mas mainam na hindi ko na sasabihin,pero sa mga suburdinates ko sa aking posisyon, marami sa kanila AMERKANO or sabihin natin mga puti, marami sa kanila tawag sa akin SIR….. may nakataas sa akin,iba din ang lahi,mga puti,itim, arabong amerkano, indian,latino,chinese etc… diverse ang amerika igan, di sya tulad sa napapanood mo sa TV na mga puti LAHAT ang mga tao.
Sa mga sulat mo igan, patunay lamang iyan ng iyong insekyurity….Sa bansang Amerika at pag makapunta ka sa bansang iyan, may maririnig ka na puti na mag greet sa isang lahing PINOY or sa isang itim na sir/ma’am…ganun yun igan, AT GANUN ANG PAGIGING OPEN MINDED!
Kung minded ka, dapat tingnan mo rin yung mga kababayan OR MGA KALAHI NATIN lalo na mga kabataan na DI NA MARUNONG GUMALANG SA MGA MATATANDA at sa Pilipinong Kultura….ganyan yun igan…
Although Satan could be Gloria’s spawn, let’s be fair here. Gloria achieved things so that Noynoy brag about them. These are things like the economic growth and the Millenium Development Funding from Mr. Joe.
Thanks for the correction, Ms. Tordesillas. I thought Clinton also went up to Baguio.
Not allowing Binay to enter the room was okay but not yelling or shouting. One should not be yelling even at ordinary person. We Filipinos are quite sensitive to this. Some bosses and managers are too cocky yelling at their subordinates and employees. Kaya nga may napapatay at work place violence. Such arrogant attitude by the managers abroad like the US is common. That’s why Filipinos who work abroad are not used to being shouted at.
Why so many people idolize Bill Clinton is simply amazing. It is probably because Billy boy is so good with words. It is that or his fans are simply fools.
Bill Clinton is a liar and a cheat. He is the only American president that nearly got impeached for lying to the American people. He appeared on TV and a straight face lied: “I did not have sex with that woman,” he claimed.
Probably, Bill Clinton is out of touch with the realities of events, misinformed or simply doesn’t care about he talks about. Fact of the matter is, many Americans look at Bill and Hilary Clinton as the greatest liars in the world. That is probably why Hilary lost her run for the presidency.
In an interview regarding the 9/11 issue, he lost his cool and insisted that he did something to fight terrorism, but failed. He stressed that emphatically. Of course, those who really know his background as a draft dodger know better.
So, this incident with the G-string and with VP Binay is not surprising. Billy boy probably doesn’t really know the meaning of what he talks about. He speaks well – does the talk but not the walk.
#30-balweg…huwag mo lahatin na buong lahing amerkano ay ganun sa mga kinagagalit mo, tandaan mo, sa staff na yun may taong mas mataas sa pa kanya,sigurado ako may isa sa kanila ay Pilipino din ang lahi….~martinsampaga
Alam mo Igan, ang punto ng usapan e away from the people of Tate…kaya specific ang punto de bista ko against dito sa ginawa ng staff ni Billy boy.
Ngayon, kung may nabanggit ako about sa foreign policy ng Tate sa bawat bansa e open book yan, kaya they hated the Americans lalo na dito sa Middle East, Central America, Africa and some part of Asia.
For your infos. ang ilan sa mga nakakaharap ko e mga US military officers/serviceman and civilian employees kasi nga e sila ang military advisers dito.
At kahalobilo ko din e mga American Doctors, Headnurse, Nurses and other staffs from different fields kaya bukas ang pananaw ko sa mga nangyayari sa pangloob at panglabas lalo na kung foreigh policy ng Tate ang isyu.
Syiempre napagkukumpara namin ang ugali-asal ng mga Kano, Brits, Frances, German and other nationalities kung sino talaga sila.
Kaya kami dito e bukas ang pananaw sa buhay kasi nga from western, oriental to 3rd world countries e halos kahalobilo namin.
So, kaya di ako bias lalo na sa mga American citizen, nagkataon na ang isyu e ang pangbabatos sa ating kababayan.
In short, specific ang isyu kaya dito lamang tayo magfocus…maliban na kung magkaroon ng malawak na pagpapalitan ng kuro-kuro upang mabigyan diin ang ugat ng naging problema.
@35- Isagani
What happened between Clinton and Lewinsky is just one too private and was pushed only to politized to get him out from his seat as president during that time…Problema nila ni Hillary iyan….hehhehhee.
Ngayon, may mas malubha pa sa mga sitwasyon na “I did not have sex with that woman”…. tanong mo sa mga reporters kung ilan mga congressista sa batasan na maraming mga bebot or mga matrona! sabay bulsa ang mga pera na dapat para sa kanilang distrito…bwuahahahahha..tanong mo rin habang naka upo ang mga iyun, ano ginagawa nila..hehehhehe..
Mali ang nagawa sa staff ni Bill Clinton at mas lalo na, hindi ako maka Clinton…. Akin lang, paulit-ulit ko sasabihin… ay mas malubha pa sa staff ni Clinton, ang nakakalungkot lang, marami sila, at sila ay kalahi natin, Pilipino.
RE: That’s why Filipinos who work abroad are not used to being shouted at.~ 2b1ask1
Korek Igan, taas noo kami bilang Pinoys dito sa Middle East…iba ang Pinoy dumiskarte at magtrabaho basta niririspeto.
Never lang na aapakan ang dignidad o pagkatao sure may resback ito!
@36- Balweg
igan, focus ako sa issue na pinag uusapan… sabi mo kasi marami sa mga pilipino ay tinuring ng kanilang mga kababayan ay bilang “asskissers”, deny ko lang yung mga akusa na ganun, kasi nga nakikita mo rin naman pala,at alam ko na alam mo na maraming mga head sa US military officers ay may mga lahi pinoy din at kakulay din natin,lalo na sa FBI HQ sa Quantico,Virginia….
Malayo masyado pag usapan ang foreign policy ng America sa nangyari sa pagitan ni Binay at sa staff ni Clinton, na ang tanging goverment agency involved sa trip na iyon ay US Secret Service lamang,bilang security detailed ni Bill Clinton as a former US president.
Again, sa nangyari kina Binay at sa staff ni clinton: yun ay pagkakamali lamang ng isang tao na nagkataon ay Amerkano or puti na American citizen ang nakagawa,pero mas malaking mali ang mag akusa na ang buong lahi nationality na amerikano puti,itim,gypsiees,pinoy.etc. ay ganun ka sama ang mga UGALI…lalong lalo na pag ibatay na naman sa foreign policy..
Isagani @35…Clinton I believe was impeached (indicted) by the House and was acquited by the Senate..for the Monica’s perjury case and Paula Jones lawsuit. As i said he is ready tosay what his listeners wanted to hear, but during his last engagement during the Canadian National Exhibition, the tickets went on fire sale and nobody cares..the taxpayers had to subsidize for his usual speaking fee. George W. commands a better audience and even ms Palin during their engagement here. he is a good speaker, but his `reputation`bores many of his former followers.
@38-Balweg
Never lang na aapakan ang dignidad o pagkatao sure may resback ito!~~Balweg.
Sa tingin ko kababayan, sa ating bayang sinilangan mismo maraming nang aapak ng dignidad o pagkatao,lalo na karamihan sa kanila politiko,alam ko na alam mo iyon… hindi sa lumalayo ako sa isyu ng staff ni clinton na sinigawan si binay…nasabi ko lang kasi matapang ka naman.
Naresbakan mo na ba yung mga kababayan natin na nasa taas, na karamihan sa kanila ay nangaapak din ng mga pagkatao.
kung naman siguro gawin ng mga ibang lahi yan, pwede din naman mula sa ating kapwa pilipino diba?
nagtatanong lang igan…
“Not allowing Binay to enter the room was okay but not yelling or shouting.”
– 2b1ask1
Uhmmm.. somethings wrong here, pinapalayas ng bisita ang host sa sarili niyang bahay!? 🙁
Re:40 Vic,
This Clinton foundation caper is probably there just to give Billy boy something to do. He can’t do without the limelight. He enjoys the celebrity status more than what the foundation is supposed to stand for. Apparently, his staff reflect this – they behave more like stormtroopers.
Although Satan could be Gloria’s spawn, let’s be fair here. Gloria achieved things so that Noynoy brag about them. These are things like the economic growth and the Millenium Development Funding from Mr. Joe.
– NFA
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wala na naman sa sarili tong si luli…haven’t you heard, ang daming aid ang naantala nun? kung meron man eh in kind na lang gawa nang walang tiwala na kay goyang? after 9 years of almost dictatorial powers ang achievement niya ay ang malawakang pagnakaw lang sa kaban ng bayan! yung mga projects kuno ay mga excuse lang para magkapondo pero binulsa naman. anong tingin mo sa amin, tanga? lokohin mo ibang tao! makapal lang talaga ang mukha ng taong to!
kaya dapat pagbayaran niya, dapat ikulong din siya! kung naipakulong niya si erap nun sa “jueteng” lang at testimony ni chavit, bakit hindi pwedeng siya rin sa testimony ng mga whistleblowers? mas mabigat ba si chavit?
Martinsampaga, if you notice i’ve changed to lower case (small letters) phrases that you have written in all caps.
It’s jarring to read sentences in all caps. Parang nagsisigaw.
Please refrain from using all caps in your comments. As I have said here time and again, readers here are intelligent, they get you message even if it’s written not capitalized.
Thank you.
Naresbakan mo na ba yung mga kababayan natin na nasa taas, na karamihan sa kanila ay nangaapak din ng mga pagkatao.
kung naman siguro gawin ng mga ibang lahi yan, pwede din naman mula sa ating kapwa pilipino diba?
nagtatanong lang igan… ~martinsampaga
Well, this is another story but to tell you frankly…ang listahan ng desperados sa ating bansa e patuloy na nadaragdag due to your concern…people’s court ang sagot diyan.
Ang malungkot nito…generation to generation, ang mga taong nabanggit mo e sa halip na mabawasan, lalo silang dumadami dulot ng paglilingkod-bulsa…e ka nga, easy money!
About ilagay ang batas sa ating mga palad, una sa lahat e malaking kasalanan yan sa Diyos na lumikha…dangan nga laman na nangyayari yong concern mo ifs ang tao e aping-api na o walang patas na hustisya tungo sa pagbabago.
off topic lang…
kaya naman pala panay ang dikit nitong si angara kay gloria..
WORSE than C-5.” That is how architect Felino Palafox describes the Aurora Pacific Economic Zone and Freeport (Apeco) in Casiguran, Aurora.
Apeco, on the other hand, is a P1-billion economic zone that is intended to boost social, economic and industrial development in Aurora and nearby provinces. “It will bring the entire Luzon to the Pacific,” said Senator Edgardo Angara, who authored the bill creating Apeco together with his son Aurora Representative Juan Angara.
http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/editorial/view/20101113-302941/A-white-elephant
bakit naman puro lingkod bulsa na lang ang mga to? talaga naman…
From Katribu Partylist:
IP partylist cry fouls over unfair treatment of Clintons security
Inappropriate?
For indigenous peoples, our traditional costumes are appropriate dresses. In fact, today, most of us wear our traditional clothes only for special and important occasions such as weddings, graduations, awarding ceremonies and other recognitions, including meetings or gatherings with personages such as Bill Clinton. We wear them with much pride and respect. It shows our distinct identity as indigenous peoples – peoples who practice sustainable and environmental development as for us ‘land is life.’ Our valiant history against colonization and continuing defense of defense of lands, livelihood, life and culture are living testimonies.
Clinton should feel honored that Dacmeg and his group attended his lecture dressed as such.
Common Humanity?
The incident at the Manila Hotel only shows that we indigenous peoples continue to experience discrimination due to our distinct identity and culture. Discrimination bred by a policy of ‘divide-and-rule’ starting in colonization. Discrimination bred from years of mis-education on who are indigenous peoples.
Books and reference materials portray us indigenous peoples wrongly. In the teaching of Philippine history, some say that we indigenous peoples are racially inferior to other Filipinos because our ancestors came on a different wave of population migration. Also the falsehood that indigenous peoples have nothing in common with other Filipinos in terms of culture and history; further, that indigenous peoples had no role in birthing the Filipino nation, in fighting for independence from Spanish, Japanese and American colonization.
In the same manner, that media portray us indigenous peoples as ignorant, wild, dirty savages, and ridicule us especially in movies, on television and other audio-visual forms.
Embracing Our Common Humanity – common humanity would mean equal rights and treatment, base on respect for peoples’ rights and identity regardless of sex, religion, ethnicity and the like. Embracing our common humanity is understanding the situation, and respecting the culture and rights of indigenous peoples.
Such treatment from foreigners is humiliating and doubly insulting as it occurred in our country. If done for security reasons – does wearing a ‘wanes’ or ‘bahag’ and being barefoot threatening?
RE: bakit naman puro lingkod bulsa na lang ang mga to? talaga naman… ~juggernaut
Hehehe…easy money! Being a Lingkod-Bulsa is a big business nowadays…dapat idagdag sa curriculum ng DECs upang magkaroon naman ng real identity ang mga kumag.
Idagdag sa kurso ng mga estudyiante ngayon ang BSLB (Bachelor of Science in Lingkod-Bulsa), major in Tradpols, Weteng Lord, Narco-Politics, Coup d’etat, extrajudicial killings, hoodlum-in-uniforms at ano pa?
Bakit po naisip ko ito, kasi nga po…ano ba ang kalakarang nangyayari sa ating bansa, di ba ang mga naghaharing-uri sa ating lipunan ang siyang naghahariharian noon at ngayon kaya pati yong mga matitinong Pinoy e nakihalo na din sa mundo ng maruming paglilingkod-bulsa.
Ang evidence itong nakaraang pangbaranggay at SK na eleksyon…pati ang mga Kabataang pag-asa ng bayan sang-ayong kay Dr. Gat Jose Rizal e namimili na rin ng boto upang manalo lamang sa poder ng ANO?
Mas mataas pa ang insidente ng karahasan kumpara sa National Election…anong klaseng paglilingkod ito pera ang usapan at punlo upang manalo lamang sa pwesto.
Alarming di ba!
OT: Noynoy’s irate top fan’s Facebook page closed and his 2.2 million members “stolen” and brought into the “new” PNoy Fan Page.
Ben Totanes is angry.
Sen. Miriam trips onstage in Turkey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSUz6IzU_zg
Milyones ang budget sa pagnanakaw ng Facebook fanpage?
If PNoy can’t take the heat, why did he run for president in the first place?
If he doesn’t like criticism, he should start by doing things right and have competent people surround him.
Re: Jug (#47)
Same words said by JP Enrile, about the Cagayan Export Processing Zone, which turned out later to be a smugglers’ haven. Remember the Euro Chambers getting a mouthful at a Senate hearing? These guys were complaining then to GMA about the cheap imports (euphemism for “smuggled goods”) coming from that port Enrile gave them a tongue lashing and then some. My friend Hubert D’Aboville got most of the flying liquid.
@45- Ellen
paumanhin na po… makakaasa po kayo na maski adverse po ang mga comments ko sa mga comments ng iba, nagpapasalamat pa rin po ako sa pagtanggap ninyo sa mga comments ko…. kasi sa iba, naiinis na sila at binubura na nila…hehehehe
Martin,welcome ko ang lahat na opinyun basta wala lang bastusan.
Maraming salamat sa pag-unawa.
@57-Ellen,
Mayroon po nag sulat ng bastos, sa previous post po…
#88, nagmumura…
Here is a balanced article (an earlier one):
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/205676/globalization-greets-barefoot-loinclothed-sagada-man
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That American probably is a U.S. Secret Service man. Banner headline could have been…
“U.S. SS commands G-man to leave,” or
“U.S. SS orders FBI to get out”
mayroon akong kaibigan,katrabaho na dala-dala niya ang g-string ng tatay niya para daw hindi niya makalimutan ang kanyang tatay kahit saan siya dalhin ng kanyang kapalaran.
This is another unenlightened person. And to think she is in public relations! She should be given a lecture on Filipino heritage.
Not the fault of Clinton aides, I think. They were doing their job but must say these Americans must strive to educate themselves on the customs and traditions of a host country.
However, given that the aides were as ignorant as my dog and all the other dogs within the 20-mile radius where I sit in matters related to RP customs, the fault lies squarely on the locals (like the co-called PR officer Dominguez bitch) who were officially involved in the forum. They should have come to the succor of the G-stringed fellow to tell them that where he came from, G-string was a formal attire.
One should ask the Manila Hotel what was wrong with a native of the Philippine islands stepping into the hotel wearing a perfectly suitable Filipiniana garb?
Best thing to do is to gift Mr Clinton with a g-string set, courtesy of our brothers from the north!
Spot on! But kidding aside, Chi, I think it was Manuel Buencamino who said that Clinton used Gloria’s head as a coaster (to put his drink on) while she was doing something not terribly Catholic… Ay bastos!!! 😛