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Please click here (VERA Files) to view in full the matrix comping the IIRC’s recommendations and the Palace action—or inaction—on the Aug. 23 tragedy.
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Hi Ellen,
Just read previous posts saying that Messrs Versoza and Puno have been cleared by Malacanang review panel.
In other words, only the lil injuns will be made to pay for the overall incompetence and derilection of duty committed during the hostage debacle on Aug 23.
I’m just gobsmacked…Philippines will remain in a rut because the big injun chiefs who were grossly incompetent, inept and thoroughly unqualified for the job are being baby sat by the biggest injun chief of all.
Fucking hell! Never seen anything like it! Eight people died during hostage crisis that was manned, supervised and managed by inept cabinet and govt officials and they are fucking cleared????? These same sweating pigs don’t even have an iota of decency to fucking step down???? I hope they fry in their own fat!
Shit, double shit and fucking shit to all of them!
I’ll borrow that dreaded phrase from our former Ellenville colleague: “Kawawang bansa!”
Noynoy has just lost one potential supporter. Due to my lack of creativity, I am now willing to call him AbNoy.
50 years old, matanda na. Pero bata ang pag-iisip at pambata ang mga sinasabi. Namana siguro si Josh sa kanya. To be fair, Josh has a good reason to be childish.
If autism is hereditary like in the case of Presidential nephew Josh, then Noynoy could also be suffering slightly from it.
IIRC Report is only recomendary but Malacanang should not alter it in any way. Let the IIRC Report be submitted for prosecution in its entirety. The Court is the one to decide. If Malacanang does this to every Investigative Body she commissioned, then what guarantee do we have that Noynoy would not alter the Truth Commission?
Shit, double shit and fucking shit to all of them! – Anna
Agree, agree, agreeeeeee!!!
I wish you guys would lay off Josh. He has nothing to do with what his uncle is doing. It is so mean and so much below the belt.
Unlike NFA rice who first mentioned about Josh, my comment was based on the medical point of view. Autism is something needs not be ashamed of. It happens to everyone. The question is if it’s hereditary.
Basta huwag naman ninyo idamay ang bata or isulat ang pangalan niya. Hindi naman tama iyun dahil walang siyang kinalaman sa tiyo niya.
Chi,
I second the motion 🙂
Iyan ang mangyayari sa bansa natin kung ang mananalo na presidente ay di marunong at ni hindi nga maganda ang record niya sa Senado eh. Ang panalo niya ay dahil lang sa SYMPHATY Vote kay Cory. Kung buhay pa si Cory ay siguradong di naman mananalo si Noynoy eh.
Yeah, the Josh reference was unfair to Josh as I have already mentioned, and for that my apologies.
Maybe PeNoy should shut up to give his Office a semblance of respectability?
But if not Noynoy, who should be the President now? If only Gilbert Teodoro was not a GMA Administration candidate, he would have been a good President.
@2b1ask1 – October 12, 2010 3:50 am
Water under the bridge in my view. Thing to do now is to make sure that he works for his pay. If he doesn’t work well enough, throw tomatoes at him until he learns. If he continues to play dumb, then send him shit by the truckload until he pees in his pants — that should put some sense in him (hopefully!)
haay naku…what will be will be…
we’re better off doing something in our control like adopting a barangay high school, its not an easy feat i tell you but its a lot more rewarding than getting neurosis… 🙂
gilbert teodoro, hmmm, if the IIRC existed during his time he would have been investigated also re AFP guns and ammunition given to the ampatuans…then again, there’s no IIRC in his time…did he ask for one? nope…
Nagmukhang totoy ang mga kagalang galang na mga retired justices at si de Apat (dehins na Lima) ng IIRC. Buti pa dinesisyonan na lang ni Abnoy (per NFA) … pina-ikot-ikot pa. Napahiya pa tuloy yang si de Apat & Co.
Too much time, money and effort wasted ha, Tedanz? Sya rin pala ang nagdesisyon, pinadrama pa ng matagal.
(I’ve no time to read all relevant news and documents…have to meet deadlines. Anyway, here are quick thoughts…)
I wish IIRC report will be compared to ES-CPLC report (or Ochoa-de Mesa memorandum – “the review of the review”). Here’s the link:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/insights/10/11/10/malacañang-review-iirc-hostage-crisis-report
Verzosa preempted the administrative charge to be leveled against him by retiring early.
On Puno, “the review of the review” (TROTR) relied on the IIRC, a hurriedly accomplished report with limitations. Garbage-in-garbage-out (GIGO)? The TROTR contained the crisis into a local one. Elevating it to a national crisis will net Robredo AND P.Noy, of course! Damage control from the start.
On Gregorio Mendoza, the TROTR is non-committal with regard to possible charge: accomplice or accessory? Well, he was already criminally charged anyway…even before the IIRC report came out.
As to Rogas and Tulfo, it’s expected…freedom of the press, the main reason. Besides, KBP already has its own “secret” investigation even before the IIRC report. KBP has its VP in the person of Canoy…whose family owns RMN. One plus one equals…
Tama ka Chi …. nagmukhang engot si De Lima naging de Apat na lang siya. Naging de Dalawa(Mesa) naman ang adviser ni Noynoy.
Pinapakinggan ko ngayon ang interview ni Noli de Castro kay De Dalawa …. ini-istorya nito kung bakit ganun ang desisyon nila …. alam naman pala nila … porke pa binuo pa yong IIRC?
Nalinlang ang sambayanan ni Penoy. Akala natin bago at tunay na pag-asa ang ating hinaharap sa pamamalakad niya. Pero, ano? Dejavu, all over again!
Same shit, different president.
Paano na yan, kung sakali, sa kung pa mang dahilan e mawala si Penoy, sino susunod – si Binay? Isa pa itong wala ng magaling kundi siya…
May pagka gago rin itong si Penoy. Akala kasi niya mababasa ni De lima ang gusto niyang mangyari at kusang palabasin sa IIRC report na walang sala ang bff niyang si Puno. E yun, ng pumalpak ang akala niya, nagpagawa na lang siya ng bagong report. Hehehe, kanya kanyang report na lang.
Pag nagresign si De lima baka mag I’m sori si Penoy.
This is Joe Seguerra’s reaction: (I like it so very much)
This is getting serious.
Sapagkat ayaw at walang planong putulin ni PNoy itong isang puno, may mga nagsasabing kahalintulad nito ang mangyayari.
(Click on photo to enlarge.)
🙂 🙂 🙂
I’m the bull terrier sitting at the end of the quieu 😉 😉 😉
Bwahahaha! Ganyan talaga ang mangyayari.
DOUBLE LIKE on the picture on 21! hahaha!!!
Ako una kasi pipila uli ako…hahaha!
Galit na galit na si Chi despite the lolling… 🙂 🙂 🙂
So, sa dinami-dami nang pangungutya dito noon walang alam at mahina si Aquino nang kampanya pa lang, sino ngayon ang nagmukhang tanga at mukhang walang alam kung paniniwalaan ang gusto nyong ipamukha kay Aquino? Siya na walang alam,abnoy, panot, butete at kung ano-ano pa ay kinawawa ang mga matatalinong tao na katulad nina De Lima at Libarios? hahahahaha. . . Sarap pala pag bobo ka at napaglaruan mo ang matatalino no? Parang si Erap. High School drop-out pero naging Presidente. Utusan lang sina bar topnotcher Ronnie Zamora. . .wehehehehe. . . 😛
Henry,
Careful now…the reverse could also be said of those who voted and believed in him; someone might just tell you that just because 15 million or so people voted for Aquino (am one of the 15 million or so voters who voted for your dear pal, btw), i.e., believed that Aquino was the most eligible, the most brilliant and the most of the mostest of the presidential contenders, incomparable, etc., etc., doesn’t necessarily mean that they were right.
(It’s like saying that tons of white Americans who practiced slavery believing that it was the right thing were correct just because there was a whole lot of them.)
Of course, you can insist that Aquino outmaneuvered these poor 15 million or so sods and this alone is proof that he is infinitely smarter, fabulously more wizardly, greater trickster, outrageously more talented than all of the 15 million or so sods put together (imagine getting 15 million or so sods to take you seriously? Why, that’s no mean feat! 😉 )
Ellen,
Re no. 21
Pity, if only Puno has the intelligence of Rin Tin Tin or Lassie, things would be different… 😉
Oh, and Henry, right you are in the absolute…
Of course, Pres Aquino and the rest of his buddies couldn’t be culpable…no way! They didn’t shoot the eight tourists dead at all on 23 August… After all, most of the gentlemen in question in the De Lima report were having tea and hot scones in a tea room nearby when the killing spree happened; big police chief himself was on tour somewhere in the country (Pacific side)…So, how could they be culpable?
Why, Filipinos who say they [the hostage crisis station people) should be held responsible are all barking mad!!!! Who the hell are they that they should even begin to contemplate accusing these noble gentlemen.
Anna:
You know better than that. I’m humoring my friends here in Ellenville who are so fixated with Puno, et al. hehehe. 😛
And Anna, please read my posts above why they can’t make the charges stick against Puno and Versoza. If they don’t have any idea about the extent of Command Responsibility these ‘noble gentlemen’ had during the incident, then I won’t debate with them. They should ask for a manual on that so they can be enlightened. 😛
Don’t worry Henry, I believe you 😀
Dang! If only Puno HAD the intelligence of my doggie, Aquino wouldn’t be losing the last strands of hair he’s got on that pretty lil head of his 😀
Heto para di kayo maburyong kay Puno:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/10/12/10/aquino-grants-amnesty-trillanes-mutineers
All Presidents and leaders make bad decisions. This IRRC Report is one Noynoy made this early in his term.
Those who doubted Ellen’s sources and her reports earlier on who’s gonna walk or not, and even the specific details of the charges to be filed or not, then this is the proof.
Now, you people know whom to read. She was spot on. From every angle.
I told my friends I was writing an evaluation of BS Aquino’s 100-day performance but cannot get started. One replied “you could just use my song instead”. It was Stevie Wonder.
So here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV9j_eY7w3I
“You Haven’t Done Nothing” by Stevie Wonder
We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you’ll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you
But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
It’s not too cool to be ridiculed
But you brought this upon yourself
The world is tired of pacifiers
We want the truth and nothing else
And we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
Jackson 5 join along with me say
Doo doo wop – hey hey hey
Doo doo wop – wow wow wow
Doo doo wop – co co co
Doo doo wop – naw naw naw
Doo doo wop – bum bum bum
Doo doo wop
We would not care to wake up to the nightmare
That’s becoming real life
But when misled who knows a person’s mind
Can turn as cold as ice un hum
Why do you keep on making us hear your song
Telling us how you are changing right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
Yeah
Jackson 5 sing along again say
Doo doo wop
Doo doo wop – oh
Doo doo wop – co co co
Doo doo wop – sing it baby
Doo doo wop – bum bum bum
Doo doo wop – um
Sing it loud for your people say
Doo doo wop – um um um
Doo doo wop – stand up be counted, say
Doo doo wop – co co co
Doo doo wop – ow
Doo doo wop – bum bum bum
Doo doo wop – ah hum
**************
I would have boldfaced all the lines that were really right on target, but hey, EVERYTHING’s right on target!
Thank you, Stevie!
‘yan,chi. ang libro pinambabato na rin sa pangulo (bukod sa zapatos).
ano sa tingin mo ang bagay dito sa atin? dapat yata unique, medyo manhid pa eh!
sanga kaya ng puno?
Akbayan statement:
Akbayan welcomes the filing of charges against several public officials for their alleged mishandling of the August 23 hostage tragedy. Particularly, we commend the filing of appropriate charges against Manila City Mayor Alfredo Lim, Manila Police District (MPD) Chief Superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay, National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) chief Director Leocadio Santiago, Negotiator Superintendent Orlando Yebra, and Manila Police Special Weapons and Tactics Unit head Chief Inspector Santiago Pascual III.
However, we are surprised if not disappointed that the other recommendations made by the IIRC were set aside. Particularly, we question a part of the recommendation that absolved two top officials despite the facts showing their imprudence and negligence over the incident. We hope that in the coming days the Office of the President will seriously reconsider some of these points. We believe some of the overlooked recommendations are very important to the government’s effort to exact greater work efficiency from its people, enhanced police accountability and institutional reforms in the security sector.
We also welcome the plan of the Office of the President to initiate administrative proceedings and an investigation against Deputy Ombudsman Emilio Gonzalez III for “neglect of duty and/or inefficiency in the performance of official duty” as well as for his alleged involvement in an alleged P 150,000 bribe attempt in exchange for the immediate action on the case of the SPO2 Gregorio Mendoza.
Likewise, we laud the Aquino government for enjoining the House of Representatives to take the “appropriate action” against Ombudsman Merciditas Gutierrez as recommended by the IRRC Report. This is a positive sign that Pres. Aquino is committed to the process of removing Gutierrez from office and a political signal to Congress particularly, to the Committee on Justice to remain steadfast in its task of exacting accountability from the ombudsman.
Frankly very interested in finding out the truth about this!!!
#40. baycas, baka lalong magustuhan ang puno, feel na feel yan lalo. hehehe!
#28. Henry, I don’t believe PNoy is bobo, hindi rin sya autistic, pero kalbo…Oo :). I just wish he relies more on his God-given talent and not on his bffs. Hindi yan ma-avoid because he is the president, but devotion to friends must be set aside if he is to fulfill his promise of “country first”. Ito nga, ke aga-aga nagwawala na si Puno, he should know when to let go of a friend.
OMG! Why didn’t anyone pointed this out before? It only hit me now. Reading through the matrix Vera Files made comparing the findings and recomendations made by the IIRC and Malacanang, I now knew why PNoy ordered a review. In the case of Puno and Versoza (the only 2 gents who mattered to the critics), the findings were countermanding Pnoy’s order for the use of SAF in the assault and so administrative/criminal proceedings should be initiated against them. This won’t stick. Why? Remember the findings of the autopsy report that all the 8 victims were all shot and killed by Mendoza even before the order to assault was given? This was pointed out clearly by the driver himself. So, kahit US Delta Force pa ang ginamit doon sa rescue, wala ring silbi kasi nga patay na yung mga hostages bago pa man inassault yung bus. he assault order was given as a last resort when Mendoza started shooting his hostages. I don’t know why the IIRC missed this point. Any one cares to refute this? 😛
The cops had so many chances to neutralize or disable Mendoza when he stood openly at the door. There’s an unwritten code among cops not to harm one another. Even PMAers have this camaraderie. When Mendoza started shooting, there was no guarantee that every hostage was shot dead. In an encounter or gun battle, the chance of those being wounded or survived the shots should be considered. It’s only when the smoke has cleared the air that we could count who has died or who survived. And how could the driver know all were killed when he was handcuffed at the driver seat? Did he walk to the back of the bus and check if all were killed? No. He jumped out of the window when he got free.
The Ombudsman was the main culprit that drove Mendoza to react that way. Please read this report and finding:
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/203368/iirc-blames-ombudsman-describes-extortion-attempt