The latest exposé of retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz on jueteng should be another wake up call to President Aquino that something is wrong with the setup that he has created at the Department of Interior and Local Government where he stripped the secretary of supervision over of the Philippine National Police, a vital element in local governance.
Inquirer reported that Cruz said two of Aquino’s trusted officials are receiving a minimum of P2 million monthly payola from jueteng. He gave a clue: the two hold security-related positions which include eradication of the illegal numbers game. Another clue: “One of them began getting his share of the other, who came into the picture fairly recently.”
Update: In his appearance in ABS-CBN’s “Umaga Kay Ganda”, Puno categorically denied accepting jueteng money. “Hindi po.Walang nagbigay. Kung may magbibigay, hindi ko tatanggapin.”
Cruz, who was also a studio guest, declined to name the two officials of the Aquino administration resorting to “Secret” when pressed by host Anthony Taberna. He however said they are more than two actually but the officials are “not in a cabinet position.” One, he said, “malapit na.”
He also said there are also jueteng lords who are governors, unlike before when the governors were just jueteng beneficiaries. Although he declined to name the governor-jueteng lords, he said jueteng is rampant in Regions One (Ilocos), Two, (Cagayan Valley) and Four (Calabarzon and Mimaropa).
On Puno,Cruz said, he is impressed by the targets that he has set.
On putting the burden of proof on him, Cruz said, “Na sa inyo ang kapulisan, ang NBI. Be fair. Ibig sabihin kung wala kaming input, wala kayong magagawa?” (You have the police and NBI. Be fair. You mean if we don’t give you inputs, there’s nothing that you can do?)
Cruz practically cleared Interior Secretary Jesse Robredo saying the arrangement in the DILG where the latter is confined to “ a comprehensive plan on delivering social services to and relocating informal settlers in coordination with the local governments” while he retained direct supervision of the Philippine National Police.
Aquino later on turned over the supervision of the PNP to Rico E. Puno, his gun buddy whom he named DILG undersecretary for peace and order. Puno reports directly to him as clearly demonstrated in the Aug. 23 hostage-taking tragedy.
Aquino’s reaction to the Cruz’s exposé is puzzling, to say the list. Inquirer quoted him as saying, “If he has evidence, no matter how little, I will investigate them. Regardless of who they are, if there is proof, they will pay.”
Is he not going, on his own, to order investigation on the matter, using the powers of the presidency, to find out the truth of the information given him by Archbishop Cruz?
We still believe that Aquino does not countenance jueteng, which is illegal and a source of corruption of government officials and politicians. This is in consonance with his campaign promise to lead the country to the path of righteousness. Matuwid na daan.
We still believe that he sincerely wants to give Filipinos a government that respects the law and does not countenance corruption, something that we did not get in the nine years unelected presidency of Gloria Arroyo.
But we don’t know until when can our trust in his good intentions hold. The DILG situation, especially the case of Robredo, is raising a lot of doubts on Aquino’s style of governance.
In his supposedly no-holds-barred talk with the three television anchors, Aquino elaborated on the reported differences with Robredo which stemmed during the campaign. The former Naga city mayor and Ramon Magsaysay awardee for public service was the campaign sortie manager.
Aquino said that he didn’t like it that Robredo was scheduling as many as 20 sorties a day for him in their provincial sorties. Although he said he understood that Robredo’s desire was to maximize his exposure, he was concerned of his ability to meet those commitments.
Aquino said Robredo was committing him to some sectors he (Robredo) wanted to please without consulting him.
Aquino’s revelations didn’t give an admirable picture of him. It even supported rumors of his being a late riser and his preference for a laid back pace.
But a source who was part of the campaign said that’s unfair because Aquino did not complain of the rigorous schedule. It’s just that in many instances, he didn’t see rhyme and reason for the activities lined up for him. He said there were other members of the campaign team who thought Robredo was being inconsiderate of the then presidential candidate. “Imagine scheduling a late morning motorcade under a summer sun? “
The source also said they felt that Robredo was using Aquino more to boost the electoral chances of the Liberal party’s local candidates.
Aquino said there is no doubt that he and Robredo share the same concern for the people. He is giving the two of them two months to work out their differences in working style.
Statements from Aquino also indicate that his trust on Puno is undiminished despite the Aug. 23 debacle. There are talks that outgoing PNP Chief Jesus Versoza has been tapped for the position of DILG secretary.
Archbishop Cruz should be very concerned.
Isn’t that a rather flimsy excuse to dislike Robredo? Good heavens! There was nothing remotely sinister in the man’s aim to give Aquino as much exposure as possible during the campaign.
He could have told Robredo, “Look fellow, I’m gonna die of exhaustion if we don’t calm down a bit, so please, let’s cut the sorties down, shall we?”
But he shouldn’t take that against a zealous supporter and consider him untrustworthy. Aquino’s reaction is totally out of proportion… Incredible, just downright incredible.
Or perhaps, there are other things on Aquino’s mind that he doesn’t want to say about Robredo? Out with it, Mr President. Pray tell… But your reaction or your reason for not trusting Robredo is childish in the extreme.
Twenty sorties, starting in the morning most probably. Marahil totoo ang posts dito noong campaign na tanghali nga magising.
What is that old adage again? Awayin mo na ang lasing, huwag lang ang bagong gising.
By the way the President gave a rambling and roundabout answer to the question of Ted Failon, as to the President’s whereabouts; the one where Ted even said, may usaping tanghali daw kayong magising.
Ang suwerte talaga ni Puno.
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I listened to the Aquino & 3-person panel interview and I also have impression. Despite Noynoy saying he heard lies and boladas and boladas and kasinulanginan, statements from Aquino indicate that his trust on Puno is undiminished despite the Aug. 23 debacle.
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Filipinos are so lucky that Pilipinas has a president who is ubod ng bait, maunawain at ma-aasahan ng kaniyang mga kaibigan thru hell and high water and lies.
Is President Aquino beginning to expose his weaker side? If he is this early in the game, then he can kiss goodbye his campaign promises of controlling or minimizing if not eradicating corruption in government and its business dealings. It could be business as usual for the crocs and vultures that may have changed their names and flavour, but crocs and vultures they are just the same. So far nothing is going on, except the good men are being sidelined and the bootlickers are having their day with the master.
“Aquino said that he didn’t like it that Robredo was scheduling as many as 20 sorties a day for him in their provincial sortie”.
It only shows that there’s something wrong on how his mind works. A very simple problem that needed a very simple solution, he turned it into a complex at nagtiis that up to this day, naghihinanakit pa rin. It’s just a glimpse of how weak and indecisive the man is. All he has to say is: “You’re fired; I don’t like your style”, end of the unwanted scheduling and nothing more to complain about.
But he didn’t do it. He made a point that all comers are welcome. Sayang din naman ang tulong sa campaign, kaya lang he sorely lacked the imagination and a frame of mind na he can solve the problem by bringing up to Robredo and make arrangements. He just lived in silence, nagtiis ng nagtiis at ngayon niya inilalabas ang kaniyang hinanakit at sama ng loob.
Anyway he has proven that he has a long memory, hindi niya nakakalimutan ang lahat na pinagkakautangan nila ng nanay niya at nagbabayad siya ngayon, in the same way na hindi rin niya nakakalimutan ang mga taong nagbigay sa kanila ng sama ng loob at ngayon ay maniningil naman siya.
What a guy!
Si Bishop naman. Nambibitin pa. Bring it out in the open para magkaalaman na. Huwag lang later on sabihin na, ” Ibinigay lang sa akin ang mga pangalan na iyan. I have no personal knowledge about it. So, bahala na kayo sa information na yan.” Remember, it’s so easy to make allegations. Proving your allegations is another matter altogether. Lawyers know this very well. Kaya nga walang nangyari doon sa previous investigations sa Senado. Unless, napicturan nila mismo ang tao na personal na umaabot at tumatanggap ng payola. How do we know if the financier is just dropping the names of people?
Ang dapat nyang pukpokin ay ang mga local officials at police. Kahit presidente pa ang nakapatong diyan kung ayaw ng mayor, governor at hepe ng mga lespu, walang magagawa ang presidente diyan. Granting na totoong nakapatong si Puno diyan, bakit siya lang ang tinatarget? Paano sina Mayor at Gob? Ok lang kasi nagdodonate naman sa mga proyekto ng simbahan? Uulitin ko. Kung AYAW ng mga local officials, walang magiging ‘hanapbuhay’ ang mga national officials sa jueteng. It’s as simple as that. Saang diyaryo nga ba nagsusulat si Cruz? A nevermind! Alam nyo na yun. Pati nga pagyoyosi ni Aquino napansin pa nito e. Teka, ano nga ba nangyari kina Sandra Cam at Boy Mayol? 😛
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing…you guys are reacting to bits and pieces of information (unconfirmed)…come on, who has more clout in jueteng here? jueteng na naman?
…please be more circumspect naman, why, even the best lawyers cannot come to a conclusion with just bits and pieces of information…lets wait for more, please, don’t insult your intelligence…lets wait for due process…
para kayong mga bulag na nagdedescribe ng elepante base sa ano lang ang hawak nilang parte, yung isa parang ahas, yung isa parang poste, etc, etc…
…mag ingat naman tayo, medyo umangat mga investments ngayon foreign nga lang, pag nag pullout medyo masakit, kaya hinay hinay lang…don’t allow yourselves to be led through the noses like swine to the slaughter…
well, its sooner than i thought…somehow i expected this incompetence…jueteng…route – its too deja vu it even sounds ridiculous already! same tactics? come on, can’t think of anything new? how about dabarkads cabinet? 🙂
We read it right: just a change of collectors.
During Gloria’s reign, we have the Pinedas, Singsons, Generals and many more. This time, we are still on the look-out, but some names like babalu and puno ang mga bukam-bibig.
Change was his mantra during the campaign, and voters bit it.
After being elected with a mandate of change (50% lang pala at 50% Cory) it seems nothing yet is forthcoming. The only change that’s visible so far is the ban on wang wang, which ironically was not part of the election campaign.
Jueteng was one issue he promised to erase from the Philippine map. Legalization was out of the question, just eliminate it. Not very few believed him.
Now we heard that it’s very much alive, more active, and worst than ever, during the time of the much-hated Gloria jueteng days. And Noynoy has only this to say, just like Gloria, “Show me the evidence”.
Words of a bishop won’t suffice and so just like that no order to investigate and, no nothing. Just forget it.
Now we can see clearly the reason why Noynoy let the DILG bore a junior and named him Rico Puno. Robredo, the senior was stripped of supervision and responsibility of the PNP, which under “normal” condition is the secretary’s domain. He is known as anti-jueteng and taking out the PNP from him will effectively render him helpless and useless in a fight against an organized jueteng lords. That’s precisely was the main purpose in getting him out of the way.
And to be believable Noynoy said that jueteng is not a priority of his government. That’s fine but at least don’t forget about it. Just let some of your police sometimes stage a mocked-raid, have some fall guys arrested and have it appear that it’s done very seriously and believable..
At least we have a change, different from Gloria’s style.
Ano naman ang masama doon. Those are his partymates.
Wasn’t it Cory who made many many politcians win, tirelessly going to their sorties to raise their hands in the entablado? The guy who ran on the reflected glory of his Mother didn’t want to reflect his own popularity on his partymates?
Nasaan na yung selflessness na dapat minana kay Itay? Yung nagpakamatay para sa Inang Bayan. Ito, magpa-araw lang, ayaw. Hindi ba’t sa ikabubuti rin ng Inang Bayan na manalo ang kapartido mo, sa halip na ang kapartido ni Money na may pandikit na Glue.
Pambihira, tinutulungan na sya ni Robredo na ma-maximize ang exposure paera manalo, nagreklamo pa! Kung yan lang ka -petty and excuse ni PNoym para hindi nya tiwalaan na makakatrabaho nya ng kasundo si Robredo ay talagang Robredo does not deserve him. Ano bang excuse yan, rason na walang logic!
Ang babaaaaaww ni kuya Noy!
@saxnviolins #10,
It looks like Danding Cojuangco ordered the murder Noynoy Aquino. That’s why wala pa ring ‘resulta’ ang imbestigasyon dahil hindi nagustohan ni Cory na ang primary suspect ay kamag-anak lang niya.
oops. ‘Ninoy Aquino’ instead of ‘Noynoy Aquino’
Who ordered the hit on Ninoy Aquino?
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/columns/columns/view/20090819-221072/Who-ordered-the-hit-on-Ninoy-Aquino
The Aquino family owes the Filipino people the truth.
Hindi ko talaga maintindihan ang takbo ng utak ni Noynoy. Para ba siyang god, as in “God works in mysterious ways.” lol
O, eto pa:
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Noy bloats pork barrel to P1 billion
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=609222&publicationSubCategoryId=63
Mr. Aquino also kept his P500 million in intelligence funds, the proposed budget showed.
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‘Yung intelligence funds ay hindi subject to transparent accounting. Paano kaya niya ma-fulfill ang promise nyang transparency. Baka siguro may hidden abilities siya na hindi ma-detect ng kumon tao. Let’s just trust Noynoy like we trust Jesus Christ.
Nalulungkot ako dito sa nangyayari kay Jessie Robredo. Aywan ko kung bakit hindi pa siya mag-resign sa gitna ng maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw na aalisin na rin siya. Ang pagsasabing Acting Secretary lang siya is pure bullshit dahil lahat na miembro ng gabinete are all in acting capacity until approved by the Commission on Appointment.
Oo nga, Joeseg…bakit nandyan pa si Robredo…? Ang ang habol nya sa gobyerno ni PNoy e half-half pala ang trato sa kanya mulat-sapol.
@joeseg #19,
Robredo is a good public servant kaya lang hindi siya nagustohan ng Kamag-anak faction. He has accomplished and can accomplish a lot more than Noynoy pero sa sitwasyon ngayon nagmukha lang siyang kapit-tuko. This is a result of putting a good apple in a rotten mix.
The Aquino government would soon be stinking because of the stench of jueteng payoffs and Robredo could be the deodorizer. Parang front lang siya, just for the people to think the Aquino govt is an advocate of no jueteng, but behind the scene, duon nangyayari ang ‘as usual’. Erap would not be complaining because he adheres to a just a ‘weder-weder lang’ reality.
Again, kailangan natin ng C,PNP na katulad ni Ping Lacson. 3 strikes policy sa jueteng. Pag naraid ng taga regional police ang isang city/municipality na nasdasakupan nito at may nahulihan ng mga kabo/kubrador ng 3 beses, sibak na agad ang hepe ng pulisya.. At the same time, dapat may accountrability ang local officials. Di pwede si ‘Super PNoy’ lang mag isa. Uulitin ko, pag ayaw ng local officials sa jueteng, tigil yan. Ang tanong, gusto ba nilang itigil? 😛
Parang masyado yatang obvious ang iba na madaliinp pababain si Aquino ah. Parang a la Erap ang tirada. May additional pa raw na 3 local officials na malapit kay Aquino sabi ni Cruz ang sabit din. Bakit? Si Bong Pineda ba na pinaka sa lahat ng jueteng ay tumigil na dahil gob na si Baby? Parang pilit na pilit ang pagkabit kay Aquino sa usaping ito. Kayo rin. Be careful bout what u wish for. You might just get it. I tell u. Noy is as stubborn as Cory. He will not go down without a fight. Di katulad ni Erap. Lalaban yan. Iyan ang rason kung bakit andyan si Gazmin. Balik Stone Age ang Pilipinas nito pag nagkataon. Iyon ba ang gusto natin? 😛
“Robredo is known as an anti-jueteng advocate. If Robredo will be replaced (as DILG chief), then it’s a victory for jueteng,” Cruz said in an article on the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) news site.
While Cruz did not name names, he hinted one of those working for Robredo’s ouster had expressed support for the legalization of jueteng, a popular illegal numbers game. He said he is certain jueteng is playing a major role in the mounting clamor for Robredo to be ousted from the Aquino administration. — PDI or Inquirer
I do not understand Cruz’s opinion concerning Rebredo and Jueteng. His argument just does not make sense to me. If jueteng is legalize, the very first group of people who will be affected are the National leaders, local leaders, Polices, and the Military, practically everyone who acts as a protector or who allow it to operate in their respective districts. It means no more FREE MONEY and TAX FREE Money for them. They are the very first group of people who will oppose any moves to legalize it.
Legalizing jueteng will benefit, first and foremost the government for taxes, the gambling lords who will become legitimate business after paying taxes, the kubradors for having a legitimate job, maybe without benefits but legitimate jobs and us as a whole because of earning from it so long us our national leaders spend it wisely for basic services or social needs. Legalizing jueteng has benefits, similarly when our government allows PAGCOR to operate, lotto, sweepstakes, STL, etc. At the same time when our government allows cigarettes sold commercially even though we know it kills or having cockfights like sabong, complete with air-conditioned arenas.
Jueteng being illegal will do us no good since it will just continue on corrupting our local and national leaders to include the police and military thru “lagay” for it to operate, depriving us of real leaders to run our bureaucracy. It is also unfair to legitimate business or people, us, paying taxes, these jueteng operate tax free under the protection of our own in government. Jueteng without paying it’s due to the government in form of taxes, deprives us of its fair share of burden of taxation, that we now carry in forms of additonal sales tax, tolls, fees, permits, etc. In addition, the influence of jueteng payoff encourage many unqualified if not criminals(in mind and action) to run for office with many of them winings due to the weakness of our COMELEC. Illegal jueteng deprives us of having real or true public servants running for office.
Robredo may be a crusader against jueteng similarly with Cruz, but let’s be realistic what happens when they are gone? I do not think they can do it. Total eradication may not be possible without replacing it with anything meaningful for these people. Also, for me, Robredo will stay in Aquino’s administration based on his own merit nothing to do with jueteng.
Let us stop this bullshit about jueteng, Lets tax it, lets use revenues coming from it create jobs and pay our social needs, and let those of benefit from it pay their fair share of taxation.
Enough of corrupted local and national government to include our police and military due to illegal jueteng! Tagal na nito simply lang ang solusyon. Ano ba talaga?
Looks like pnoys enemies are on the move to discredit his administration using kris, robredo, jueteng, and what else? Ala Erap ba Mr. Henry90 sir?
I think Pnoy is on track. Just don’t understand why many want’s to discredit him this early without understanding that they themselves will benefit if Good Governance becomes a reality!
Update:
In his appearance in ABS-CBN’s “Umaga Kay Ganda” just now, Puno categorically denied accepting jueteng money. “Hindi po.Walang nagbigay. Kung may magbibigay, hindi ko tatanggapin.”
Cruz, who was also a studio guest, declined to name the two officials of the Aquino administration resorting to “Secret” when pressed by host Anthony Taberna. He however said they are more than two actually but the officials are “not in a cabinet position.” One, he said, “malapit na.”
He also said there are also jueteng lords who are governors, unlike before when the governors were just jueteng beneficiaries. Although he declined to name the governor-jueteng lords, he said jueteng is rampant in Regions One (Ilocos), Two, (Cagayan Valley) and Four (Calabarzon and Mimaropa).
On Puno,Cruz said, he is impressed by the targets that he has set.
On putting the burden of proof on him, Cruz said, “Na sa inyo ang kapulisan, ang NBI. Be fair. Ibig sabihin kung wala kaming input, wala kayong magagawa?” (You have the police and NBI. Be fair. You mean if we don’t give you inputs, there’s nothing that you can do?)
Teka, ano nga ba nangyari kina Sandra Cam at Boy Mayo(r)?
Si Sandra Cam, sumabak sa politika sa Bicol, pero natalo. Si Boy Mayor, niratrat yung Volvo niya dito sa may Airport Road pauwi galing sa casino, just this year. Patay. Nabanggit niya kay Archbishop Cruz kung sino ang may masamang balak sa kanya bago siya namatay pero walang kinalaman sa jueteng. Sa construction business daw ang dahilan.
TT:
Anak ng jueteng! Naka Volvo pa si Mayor ng inambush? Hanep! 😛
Ellen, “malapit na” meaning malapit nang ma-appoint sa cabinet bilang DILG Sec? O malapit sa puwesto ng sec – gaya ng undersec?
Henry: Milyon ang sweldo ni Boy Mayor bilang jueteng operator noon. Sa jueteng, 35% ang more or less monthly net ng financier, malinis na. Sino’ng negosyante ang aayaw sa ganyang ROI? Kaya naman kayang mamigay ng One M sa RPO Chief, sa manager pa kaya.
13 September 2010
Ms. Ellen,
Lahat naman tayo ay concern sa pamunuan ni P-Noy, panawagan ko lang sana sa iyo e kung pwedeng kalampagin lang sana itong bagon tao ni ochoa na si lucille ortile na dating galing sa HUDCC.
Kasi nga ang balita ko noong si ortile at sampu ng kanyang mga alipores ay nasa HUDCC pa, may napabalita na yung Low Cost housing program dyan sa may taguig, ay may mga uni9ts sila at pina-uupahan nila. Ayon sa balita kung isang maliit na unit lang ay ok lang sana, pero ang balita ay hindi lang iisa ang units nya. Ang masaklap nito ay hindi lang naman itong si ortile ang gumawa nang ganun. Namayagpag itong si oritile nung panahon ni de castro.
Ito ay kasunod sa sumambulat na balita tungkol sa globe asiatique.
Maraming kalokohan ang nangyari sa HUDCC noong mga nakaraang taon. Kune pwede lan po ay pakikalampag lang dahil sa itong si ortile ay nasa opisina na ni ochoa.
salamat po.
prans
Jueteng is as Filipino as rice in some parts of the country and probably linked to the economy more than anything else…Cruz is a simpleton saying that it can be wiped out by one person alone – Robredo, remember Lacson, Erap? You can’t wipe out jueteng that easy, it will eat you up and spit you out…is he even sure the church is jueteng money free? why don’t they refund the pinedas their donations?
he’s fighting for relevance…whats he done about jueteng all these years?
if he is really serious about jueteng, he brings everything to the proper forum, in court, not in media na naman…sounds like he’s lobbying for somebody…
if robredo really is the guy we need, its better noynoy doesn’t show his preference for him this time of the game, we may never know what waits for him in the ca…
What’s he really up to?
Archbishop Emeritus Oscar Cruz is certainly no crackpot nor an agent of the political opposition.
But it’s a puzzlement that while he is now claiming that as many as “five officials of the Aquino administration are receiving million peso pay-offs from jueteng lords in four region,” he refuses to name names.
The good man of the cloth asserts simply that “I have witnesses in the provincial jueteng operations now controlled by the governors themselves and people in Malacanang who know about the jueteng bribes.”
Yes, Archbishop Cruz.
But up and until your expose is fleshed out with the supposed bribe takers’ names and warm body witness execute sworn affidavits (and are given adequate protection), all that’s making news head are innuendos and more innuendos.
More dangerously you have now endangered the lives of your witnesses who are personally known by the criminals they are tagging, assuming these faceless whistleblowers are the real deal
We remember only too well the fate that befell Wilfredo ‘Boy’ Mayor who was also your witness.
Did the good retired Archbishop ever bother to help find out who killed Mayor?
Or has the CBCP simply forgotten him?
http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node/12386
So please to take your anti-jueteng campaign to the hilt, Arbishop Cruz.
Spill the names and stand as direct witness against them.
Endless innuendos serve no real purpose.
Do it.
http://atmidfield.com/2010/09/13/archbishop-oscar-cruz-and-jueteng-beyond-innuendos/
What’s he really up to?
Archbishop Emeritus Oscar Cruz is certainly no crackpot nor an agent of the political opposition.
But it’s a puzzlement that while he is now claiming that as many as “five officials of the Aquino administration are receiving million peso pay-offs from jueteng lords in four region,” he refuses to name names.
The good man of the cloth asserts simply that “I have witnesses in the provincial jueteng operations now controlled by the governors themselves and people in Malacanang who know about the jueteng bribes.”
Yes, Archbishop Cruz.
But up and until your expose is fleshed out with the supposed bribe takers’ names and warm body witness execute sworn affidavits (and are given adequate protection), all that’s making news head are innuendos and more innuendos.
More dangerously you have now endangered the lives of your witnesses who are personally known by the criminals they are tagging, assuming these faceless whistleblowers are the real deal
We remember only too well the fate that befell Wilfredo ‘Boy’ Mayor who was also your witness.
Did the good retired Archbishop ever bother to help find out who killed Mayor?
Or has the CBCP simply forgotten him?
http://www.cbcpnews.com/?q=node/12386
So please to take your anti-jueteng campaign to the hilt, Arbishop Cruz.
Spill the names and stand as direct witness against them.
Endless innuendos serve no real purpose.
Do it.
atmidfield.com/2010/09/13/archbishop-oscar-cruz-and-jueteng-beyond-innuendos/
“Exploiting the August 23 hostage tragedy that left eight Hong Kong tourists dead, jueteng protectors are joining moves to oust acting Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) Secretary Jesse Robredo, a retired Catholic archbishop said.”
I can’t understand why the Archbishop is not naming names.
May kuwento ako kay Boy Mayor. We met at the Senate. It was during the NBN/ZTE hearing. He was there as part of the whistleblowers group following up the passage of the bill strengthening protection for them. Sandra Cam and another whistle blower on the fertilizer scam were also there. The were giving moral support for Dante Madriaga, witness in the NBN/ZTE deal.
After the coverage, when I was walking out to get a cab, I saw Boy Mayor also walking ahead of me. I thought he was also getting a cab. When I got a cab, I told the taxi driver to stop when we got in front of him. I offered him a ride and he politely declined. From a distance I saw him board a white Expedition. Yun pala wheels niya.
Kasali ba ang jueteng payola sa Truth Commission? Palit kubrador lang. Ibig sabihin patuloy ang kanilang operasyon kahit sino ang nasa Malacanang.
After the coverage, when I was walking out to get a cab, I saw Boy Mayor also walking ahead of me. I thought he was also getting a cab. When I got a cab, I told the taxi driver to stop when we got in front of him. I offered him a ride and he politely declined.
– ellen
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susmaryosep ellen! don’t ever do that again, don’t be in the same car with potential targets!
Kasali ba ang jueteng payola sa Truth Commission? Palit kubrador lang. Ibig sabihin patuloy ang kanilang operasyon kahit sino ang nasa Malacanang.
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ganyan katindi ang jueteng, parte na ng buhay ng mga tao…kung extramarital sex, prostitution, pedophiles in the clergy, etc., hindi kayang pigilan no cruz, jueteng pa kaya, na maraming nakikinabang? hindi naman puro sa masama napupunta ang pera galing dito…may pandagdag sa sahod ng mga pulis, tuition, pang hospital, pambili ng pagkain para sa mahihirap, etc…yun nga lang mali pa rin…pero mas uunahin dapat ang truth commission, ampatuan investigation, gocc bonuses, etc., kung jueteng – aabutin pa ng sunod na administrasyon yan, na baka parliamentary na ang gobyerno at si gloria ang pm… 🙂
Si Boy Mayor bilang jueteng operator pwedeng i-compare sa events planner o wedding coordinator. Wala ka nang sakit ng ulo, sagot niya lahat ng operation ikaw lang bahala sa puhunan.
Di ako nagtataka na mga taong nasa alta sociedad ang namumuhunan ng jueteng ngayon. Ika nga ni Villar, pera-pera lang.
Pag nagkakabukuhan lang saka kumikilos ang mga lespu. Kung malamig, bulag-bulagan muna. Nung bumaligtad yung witnesses ni Bishop Cruz na mga kasama nina Mayor at Cam, kilos agad ang mga parak, baka magkaungkatan pa.
Diba’t sina Abraham Riva at Richard Garcia sumuko kay Ding Santos dating hepe ng Pasay Police? (Hindi pala chief. Siya ang nagdidikta kung sino ang magiging Pasay Police Chief kahit Captain lang ang ranggo niya.)
Jueteng lord din si Santos dito pati na yung scalpers sa PBA kanya rin kaya iniwan ng PBA ang Cuneta Astrodome. Bata si Ding Santos ni Ronnie Puno – ang utak ng Witness Prevention Program.
Anak jueteng! Kahit sino ang nasa poder tuloy ang ligaya. Walang katapusang imbestigasyon iyan. Si Erap lang yata ang nakulong dahil sa jueteng payola.
Boto ako sa ginagawa ni Bishop Cruz. Laban siya sa jueteng na walang kapana-panalo ang mananaya. Napakahina rin naman kasi ng mga Pinoy, magsusugal din lang di muna inaalam ang tsansang manalo. Ano’ng kabutihan ang maidudulot niyang jueteng? Sa financier, meron. Sa mananaya, wala! Isang malaking panloloko iyan.
Sige nga magbigay nga kayo ng halimbawa ng isang taong yumaman sa PAGTAYA sa jueteng?
Kaya nga tinawag na “sugal ng mahihirap” yan dahil wala ni isang yumaman!
buti pa si Gloria Arroyo, binigyan ng “honeymoon period” ng media, siya na may hindi mabilang na nakulimbat sa kaban ng bayan, dagdag mo pa jueteng payola, katabi pa si pineda pag nagsisimba…siya na ang daming napinsalang buhay, nasirang buhay, hanggang ngayon nga nakakulong pa rin ang mga taong yun…ang tahimik ng buhay niya ngayon, nag eenjoy sa naipon niyang pera na walang nakakadisturbo…habang gumagalaw ang mga galamay niya, ang nagagawa nga naman ng maraming pera oo…
so lahat ibabagsak na naman sa bagong presidente 🙂
nakangiti siguro si gloria ngayon…nagawa niyang palitan at ipakulong ang dating presedente noon na nandun pa si Lacson at iba pang big boys with big guns, ngayon pa kaya na halos puro baguhan ang mga nasa poder? at parang hindi pa marunong magalit? mapikon? instead, nag eexplain pa, binabatikos pa rin? talaga naman, talaga naman…ang nagagawa ng maraming pera…maraming nabibili…
tt,
Dapat siguro nagtrabaho muna ng tahimik si Cruz, compiled evidences, affidavits, coordinated with the investigating group, secured the hostages…maybe even got someone wiretapped or video taped red handed (like erap in the casino before)…instead of telegraphing his punches via the media…he’s been through that road before and the results are nada – but sikat siya (akala niya)…
…you won’t appreciate jueteng because you (me) are not gambling people, we’re not into this “get rich quick” schemes…but for those who are living on a day to day basis, seeing no light at the end of the tunnel – the prospects of a bonanza is a life changer…maybe some people win big money (and many see this), otherwise walang tataya diyan? walang magnenegosyo nyan (financers) kung wala naman tataya…may “need” eh, kaya ayun!
Dito natin makikita ang hina ng impluwensiya ng simbahan sa mga tao, it cannot inculcate “values” anymore, puro na lang sila “blah, blah, blah” in the pulpits, ang mga tao naman nagsisimba pa rin pero diretso sa sabungan, sa saklaan, sa jueteng pagkatapos (pinagdadasal pang manalo)…
tt,
I’m pretty sure that with your gift with numbers and uncanny mastery of the laws of probability, trend analysis, and grasp of fibonacci sequence…you could even make a killing in jueteng 🙂
Sa banyo binobola ang jueteng pag mainit, it’s silly people still fall for it.
I also play lottery and those scratch to win cards run by PCSO, whatever you lose, you give to charity. Maraming safeguards so it fairly acceptable and unlike jueteng, there’s really a chance of striking it rich.
When illegal gambling (sakla, bookies, jai-alai, and jueteng) in Pasay was still being run by Mayor Cuneta’s son, Boy McNutt, his right hand man, Boy Ding, was caught skimming some of the daily winnings for himself amounting to several millions, either by under-reporting sales or overstating payouts or both. When McNutt finally found out, Boy Ding and his cohorts, on their knees, promised to return all of the money. McNutt was said to reply, “Kaya ko namang kitain uli yang pera pero yung sakit ng kalooban ko sa pagtatraydor ng mga kumpare ko, yung ang hindi ko kaya”.
3 days later, Boy Ding was found hanging by his neck in his condo. Police said it was suicide, nobody believed it.
Re: #47
Hindi naman umaasang yumaman ng tumataya sa jueteng. Pantawid gutom at panlibang lang ang inaasan diyan.
yung kapatid ko tumataya diyan noong teenager kami. Tumatama siya paminsan-minsan. Parang panlibang maglaro, tulad ng ibang sugalan diyan na legal!
Marahil panahon na na magmungkahe si Archbishop Cruz na gawaing legal ang jueteng para mapangasiwaan ito at mapakinabangan ng sambayanan.
Actually, yung tumataya sa kung ano-anong tipo ng lotto at labag sa jueteng ay ipokrito. Pare-parehong sugal yan, ang diperensya e nakatataya ang mahirap. O, e form of discrimination yan, diba?
Si abnoy nasisilaw na rin sa pera kaya para sa kanya ok na rin ang meron jueting tutal ang mga ahensya niya o DOJ department of jueteng…
Sino ba ang taong hindi masisilaw kung milliones ang usapan di2…
Lahat ng mga sinabi ni abnoy noon kay gloria macapagal arroyo kinakain na niya…
Umalis na kayo sa malakanyang “hoy” dahil wala kayong kakayahan para manilbihan sa bansa… mga inutil.
INAMIN ni Puno, sa naturang panayam ni Taberna, ang kairalan ng hwéteng… at alok na pera sa kanya ng mga alipores ng mga kapitalista nito. Ano pang ebidensyá’t patibay ang kailangan?! Ano’t di niya agad ipinadakip ang nga nag–alok ng pera’t sinimulan ang dagliang pagdurog sa mga amo nila? Ang kapulisan ay nasa kanyang pamamahala!!! 😡 😡 😡
“Is he not going, on his own, to order investigation on the matter, using the powers of the presidency, to find out the truth of the information given him by Archbishop Cruz?”
Wala naman sinabi si Cruz maliban sa meron dalawang lalaki na hindi cabinet member ay tumatanggap ng payola.
Sana binulong man lamang niya ang pangalan kay Pnoy para mapaimbestigahan niya sila kaagad. Napakadali sana.
Eh ngayon maglalaro pa sila ng Twenty Questions bago malaman kung sino ang naglalagay at sino ang tumatanggap.
Nung araw naglabas si Cruz ng biy mayor at sandra cam, sana maglabas din siya ulit ng ganun.
Hindi magandang magbabato siya ng akusasyon tapos hindi naman niya paninindigan.
Subukan niya si Pnoy. Ibulong niya ang mga pangalan o sabihin niya in public at kung walang gawin si Pnoy dun siya bumanat.
Destroyer @54
Sige ibalik natin yun mahal mong unano
#41 Ellen. Whoa! White expedition ha! Katas ng jueteng….
Hahaha@ to MB! Pagtitiyagaan ko na lang si kuya Noy for six years a!
Bakit nga ba ayaw pang ibulgar ni Archbishop Cruz ang names ng mga anak ng jueteng? O kaya tama, ibulong kay PNoy at i-announce niya na naibulong na. Kung hindi umaksyon ang presidente, e di yugyugin natin.
This news is expected. Pero nakakapagtaka lang, bakit walang ganitong ingay sa jueteng payola noong panahon ni Gloria? Hmmm… same pattern kung paano pinabagsak si Erap…
mukhang totoo to.. kaya siguro nahihirapang lumutang si Lacson… madaming kontrabida sa bakuran ni PNoy…
Mr President,
You(We) need Sen Panfilo Lacson! Please lang, pauwiin na ng makapagtrabaho… paki dalian…
The question: what is PNoy going to do about it?
Agree!
Been waiting for Ping! Bakit nga ba kuya Noy?
Peri@61
“This news is expected. Pero nakakapagtaka lang, bakit walang ganitong ingay sa jueteng payola noong panahon ni Gloria? ”
Hah, eh ano yun senate investigation kung saan lumutang si boy mayor at si sandra cam na nagsabi na siya mismo ay naghatid ng payola kay mikey arroyo?
Si Ping nasa kamay ng korte. Kung makialam si PNoy sasabihin ng kalaban niya na wala siyang respeto sa rule of law at sa separation of powers.
Mas mabuti iwanan na lang natin ang kaso sa kamay ng mga abogado ni Ping.
I have to agree with Manuel #67, I think Ping has to mend for himself thru his lawyers. No shortcuts, go thru the process and stop hiding for crying out loud.
Perl #61: Madaming nag ingay tungkol sa jueteng payola sa panahon ni Goyang kasama na si Bishop Cruz. Di lang talaga matinag si bulilit dahil naka epoxy siya sa trono nuon at hawak sa balls ng mga tongressmen.
baka naman kailangan lang idemystify and jueteng, maybe education can help? what are the odds in jueteng? what are the possiblities of winning? losing? if people can see/appreciate what jueteng is, and if its really an exercise in fultility maybe they will stop…calling all mathematicians, statisticians, and maybe some martians – please analyze jueteng, expose all variables, and tell us why its impossible to win or show why its a lose/win situation, lose ang nagtataya, win ang bangko o ano bang tawag nila sa operator…
Next PNP chief: It’s Bacalzo
“Bacalzo, deputy chief for operations and the third highest PNP official, was also said to be the choice of Verzosa, although junior officers had issued an open letter against him. The open letter alleged that he was involved in the illegal numbers game jueteng, illegal drugs and other corrupt activities. He was also the head of Task Force Usig, which was assigned to stop media and unexplained killings.”
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=611846&publicationSubCategoryId=63
be the choice of Verzosa, although junior officers had issued an open letter against him.
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unpopular with the men huh? good! that will make him a better commander, he’s over the popularity game already…
#58>>> hindi ko presidente c unano at hindi ko rin presidente ang inutil na administrasyon dahil hindi siya ang nagbibigay ng aking ikinabubuhay. INUTIL ang mga administrasyon mo booboosh… bungo nila walang laman.
hay naku! jueteng? yun lang pala yun? may version sa visayas “masiao” pastilan gyud! kahit nung maliit pa ako nandyan na yan, nanay ko, mga pinsan, uncles, aunties, kapitbahay, tumataya dyan…naaalala ko pa may mga “maintain” pa si nanay na numero, minsan nananalo pero kadalasan “hapit na” o muntik na. hindi naman kami namulubi kasi barya barya lang naman ang taya…come to think of it, wala akong nakitang namulubi nga…ilang taon din yun, from my elementary to college years, tumataya pa rin siya sa mga “maintain” niya, pag nanalo may pang ice cream, kung medyo malakilaki hapunan sa dinghao (dimsum house)…nahinto lang nung naubos na pasensiya ng tatay ko kasi napapahiya na siya daw sa opisina mrs niya tumataya sa “masiao” kaya ayun, nag mahjong na lang (ngek), favorite hangout nila yung marian shangrila, now mactan shangrila, kalaro pa niya yung mayor na ngayon…mas gusto ko pa nga masiao na lang kasi hindi inuumaga sa “session.”
its no big deal, tama si erap, gawing legal yan, kung ayaw pa rin matuto ang mga kababayan natin eh ibigay ang hilig, pag nagutom, nagkamatayan, baka dun pa lang matuto…bottomline, its a matter of personal decision, kung gusto mong magpakamatay, sige, bahala ka sa buhay mo!
destroyer,
buti na lang nasa vietnam ka, wala sa pilipinas… 🙂
#58>>> makinig ka sa radio kung pano banatan si Noynoy aka abnoy… sayang yung laway niya nung kampanya laban kay gloria aka unano kasi yung laway niya siya rin mismo ang dumidila hahaha…
#75>>> nasa north korea ako pards….
cheap masyado ang radyo…wala ka bang CNN?
destroyer,
dapat kasi piliin mo yung mga dekalidad na nagbibigay ng balita, google mo reuters…
radyo? wag mong sabihin pati drama sinusundan mo?
this jueteng issue is a typical “Filipino” story…if you ask a foreigner boss about his impression of reports from pinoys, he says he usually takes out 40% of it as “exaggeration” allowance…
lets see jueteng as it really is, a silly numbers game, and not a monster, its the people involved that are…
if silly people want to drown themselves in it, let them drown, that way we’ll have lesser silly people to deal with like destroyer here…
joke lang destroyer, but really? who listens to the radio still nowadays? ni wala na ngang AM stereo sets ngayon? hehehe
Thanks mike, manuel,
hindi ko narinig yang ingay sa jueteng noong panahon ni Gloria… masyado kasing maingay noong panahon yon…
…at nakulong pa isang pangulo natin dahil dyan, sayang, wala namang kuwentang bagay…kalokohan talaga…
perl,
nag iingay na si cruz nun pero ingat kasi bubuweltahan siya ni first gentlemen ng “libel.” in the meantime, ayun, si gloria and mrs pineda makikita mong palaging magkasama, harap harapan, nagsisimba pa yung dalawa…
itong si noynoy walang first lady man lang na tumutulong sa kanya, walang makausap sa gabi pag may problema, unsaon na lang? pagkamingaw? 🙂
#78>>> pards meron bang nagkokomentaryo sa tv!? hikhikhik hindi ko need ang CNN kasi lahat na ng satellites nandito sa amin.. kuha namin lahat ng channels gusto mo yung roof top mo pa i print ko hahahaha…
#84>>> walang first lady!!! baka naman first gentlemen.
oof top mo pa i print ko hahahaha
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ngek, luma na yung pics sa google earth pre, hindi real time yun… 🙂
ang problema sa mga komentarista, hindi na nila alam kung saan natapos yung facts (na konti lang nakalap nila for sure) and nagsimula yung fiction…para lang mapuno ang air time nila… 🙁
# 78
Akala ko ba si Anna ang sosyal?
It may be cheap to you, it may be below your dignity to listen to the Radio, but many Pinoys, majority of the voters still listen to the radio. They do not have internet access, nor computers for that matter.
And CNN, sinong labandera, magsasaka, or jeepney driver and nanonood niyan? Same thing, yung matanda nang dumating sa America, you think they watch CNN? No. Boss pa rin ang ABS-CBN and Wowowie.
Huwag kang masyadong condescending man. Because yang mga hoi polloi ang nagluklok kay Noynoy.
Sabagay tapos na ang election. Maka-hoi-polloi lang ang pulitiko kung nanliligaw ng boto.
Senator Lacson is accused of crime of Murder, the most serious of all crimes…until he himself show courage and face the charges before the court of law, he should not be credible enough to be of anyone’s assistance.
“If he has evidence, no matter how little, I will investigate them. Regardless of who they are, if there is proof, they will pay.” PNoy
Do your homework Mr. President. Utilize the millions intelligence funds at your disposal to gather evidences against alleged jueteng payola collectors. Hindi kailangan isubo lahat na ebidensia para maumpisahan ang imbestigastion. Sabida: kung saan may usok may sunog. Pasalamat ka sa tip ni Bishop Cruz.
#84>>> walang first lady!!! baka naman first gentlemen.
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yun nga akala ko dati kaya ayoko siyang iboto nun…pero nung magtanongtanong ako sa mga nakakalapit sa kanya, diana zubiri, barbara milano, bernadette sembrano, may naligaw nga lang korina sanchez – naging idol ko na siya tuloy! 🙂
Huwag kang masyadong condescending man.
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oops…wala na akong magawa dyan, condescending talaga ako, its a bad habit you develop when you get to be the boss…heheehe
#87>>> google earth mo yata yung free! napaka ilokano mo naman magbayad ka para totoo yung inuulat sa google earth mo hehehehe…. gusto mo lagi kang free magbayad ka…. saka sino ba ang nagsabing google earth ang gamit namin! kung ano yung gamit ng US Military ganun ang gamit namin. google earth para sa amateurs like u at sa mga taga administrasyon.
Pinakulong si Erap dahil sa jueteng scandal. Diba’t siya ang unang nagsabi na dapat maging legal na ang jueteng? Kung talagang tumatanggap siya ng jueteng money galing kay Sabit Singson, bayani ng Edsa Dos, bakit niya gustong gawing legal ito kung may pakinabang siya rito?
Ngayon gusto gawing legal ang jueteng thru STL, sinunod rin pala ang plano ni Erap.
Ngayon nadiskubre ng yellow army na hindi pala madali ang nasa poder. Kawawa naman si PNoy, ipinasubo kahit na hindi handa.
Dapat managot ang mga nagpain kay PNoy!
US Military ganun ang gamit namin.
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talaga? baka sa opisina nyo yan? lagot, misuse/abuse of company property yan! baka company time ka pa gumagamit ng company computer? double lagot! 🙂
destroyer,
biro lang mga yun, hindi kasi ako makatulog…peace…
umaga na pala, sa susunod…magpakabait ka dyan sa n korea, may magaganda rin bang koreana?
good nyt
Speaking of eh.em. radio, I listen to it most of the time when I’m driving. Pampatanggal ng antok at inip lalo na kung trapik. I know all the latest tsismis from politics & showbiz. Dehins ako huli sa balita. 😀 😛
mike,
masubukan nga, anong numero ba (station) magandang pakinggan, nabubuwisit sa ako sa fm, halos wala ng music puro pa cute na lang si dj mo, angelicopter, etc…
Erap was booted out and put in prison for jueteng. Chavit did not like his jueteng money cut so he delivered Erap’s head to be chopped off. Kaya lang kinarma nanam siya, si Sabit. Now his son is in jail. Ops temporarily out of jail na pala. After paying all the bail and the best lawyers to defend him (the son), most of his jueteng monies may be gone.
Maganda yung ginagawa ni Bishop Cruz. He is not mentioning the lords specifically para mahuhuli silang lahat. Kaya nga lang sabi na nga ni Pnoy, hindi ito ang priority niya, to eradicate jueteng. Mahirap ng kalabanin yung Uncle niya who spent hundreds of millions to bank roll his campaign. It is a catch 22.
Agree ako kay Erap. With a legitimate lottery, some money can go towards the schools or the disadvantaged and also to taxes and not to the pockets of the hoodlums. Many of these collectors are in uniforms. They know who they are.
Kayo naman. Wala pang tumatanggap.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100914-292099/Puno-admits-offers-from-jueteng-lords
Si Rico E. Puno, ginapang (approached) at hinipuan (sent feelers) sa ilalim ng mesa.
Ang panghipo, isang brick ng salapi.
Ang panghipo, isang brick ng salapi.
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are you sure, without the benefit of the doubt? so haul the guy to court already? i’m sure your aware of presumption of innocence…
…kund sasabihin niyang wala, you’ll say he’s lying, a hypocrite…ano ka ba naman? i’m sure you’re kidding here…i don’t have to lecture you about the law…
erap doesn’t see anything wrong with jueteng, with gambling, with drinking to excess and multiple women partners…he’s asiong salonga in the flesh…
Jug, I am not an Erap fan, I am just saying that on legalizing jueteng, I do agree with him. On anything else, his lifestyle etc, I do not necessarily patronize.
psb,
i agree with you there re legalize jueteng, demystify it, take it out in the open, tingnan natin kung lalaki pa yan…
my mom is an avid erap fan, in fact i am the only one in the family who didn’t vote for him… 🙂
…better yet, take a portion of it and give to charity din… 🙂
Ralph Waldo Emerson would say money is power in the same manner steam, fire, electricity are. You mishandle fire or electricity, you can get burned alive, but tamed and in their proper places, they could cook you the best of food and give you numerous other comforts. The same principle goes for the other great powers. Learn to tame them, place them in their proper places because otherwise they are wild, poisonous, deadly, destructive.
Jueteng should be legalized. Erap is correct. Gambling may be evil but it is best dealt with by the individual on his best lights not by some well meaning government or authority out to shield him from it. Do you notice that in shielding people from so-called evil, another monster more insidious emerges?
Ricelander, you said it well. As early as the campaign period jueteng operators have already been at work establishing connections with those they think would win the elections. They even contribute to the election funds of these candidates. Actually they fund both sides of the fence just to make sure. For them its a form of investment. Most of these operators don’t like Erap. Mas gusto nila ang grupo nila Villar at Noynoy. Or more appropriately those behind Villar and Noynoy. Now its payback time. Of course they have to give the usual payoff to the Authorities. They usually start small and payoffs get bigger as their operations grow. I guess Bishop Cruz’s network of kontra jueteng operators have stumbled early on the jueteng operations. The public must be thankful there is such a person as Bishop Cruz who as early as now has brought to light these jueteng operations. Its now up to PNoy if he takes Bishop’s Cruz expose seriously. Bishop Cruz should not be pilloried because of what he said about jueteng.
My belief is – you can’t stop gambling whether bigtime or jueteng.
#90 >>>
“Do your homework Mr. President. Utilize the millions intelligence funds at your disposal to gather evidences against alleged jueteng payola collectors.”
Bishop Cruz can save the country millions by just giving the names to the President. He can begin his investigation and gathering evidence from there.
“Hindi kailangan isubo lahat na ebidensia para maumpisahan ang imbestigastion.”
Ang hinihingi ng Presidente ay pangalan. Sapat na yun para maumpisahan ang pag-kolekta ng ebidensia.
“Sabida: kung saan may usok may sunog.”
Where there is smoke there is fire is true in many cases but sometimes it’s just someone blowing smoke out of his ass.
“Pasalamat ka sa tip ni Bishop Cruz.”
Blind item=tip? Sa showbiz siguro.
#110
Hindi pa ni PNoy alam hangang ngayon. Malaking kalokohan ito. Hindi na kailangan ang pangalan. Baka ma-libel pa si Bishop Cruz.
Inquirer reported that Cruz said two of Aquino’s trusted officials are receiving a minimum of P2 million monthly payola from jueteng. He gave a clue: the two hold security-related positions which include eradication of the illegal numbers game. Another clue: “One of them began getting his share of the other, who came into the picture fairly recently.”
Sa pang showbiz pala ang jueteng expose’ ni Bishop Cruz. Naloko na!
Playing the devil’s advocate (of course, i’m really a h—- devil anyway), this could even be extortion, you don’t give, i expose you, sample pa lang to’.
I guess Bishop Cruz’s network of kontra jueteng operators have stumbled early on the jueteng operations.
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he’s been stumbling over these operators for a long time already, probably the past 3 presidents pa…he should be an expert in this area…of all people, he has the most time spent with these operators, and he seems to have an excellent network of investigators (so he’s not just a priest)…he shouldn’t act like some school teacher playing 20 questions, he should go to the police and report what he knows, then lets see what happens…he goes to the media? good grief, what next, he’ll run for governor?
Good Lord. In your zeal for defending some underling of the President you cannot distinguish punning from accusations.
Haul the guy to court? When a tip is given, it is the job of the police, NBI, and other investigators to act on the tip. When enough evidence is gathered, then the prosecutor comes in. The presumption of innocence is what the court keeps in mind, while listening to the evidence.
But at this stage, it is the investigators who must first move. There is an NYPD advertisment that says, if you know of a crime, or a cop killer, call this line. We will not ask for your name.
A good sleuth can start working on a small tip. The Bishop has given enough for a good sleuth to start working on. He talked about portfolios that have to do with security. That eliminates almost all the other Secs and Usecs (finance, health, DFA). He talked of a high position – Usec level.
A good detective will consider this a challenge.
Again, this is not to disparage the President. This is done in the hope that he will prod the investigators to act.
Yes. Do not lecture me about the law. Lecture me about your Steven Covey instead; especially about the fifth habit “Seek first to understand and then to be understood.”
Then lecture your President on the first habit = “Be proactive.”
Anong nangyari sa hostage-taking and its justifications? Hindi ba’t puro reactive behavior? Walang equipment, kasalanan ni Glue, istorbo ang media, and on and on and on.
Mendoza himself provided the solution. Ibalik niyo ako sa serbisyo. Alam ko may bagong kaso na ako dahil dito sa ginawa ko.
The fifth habit would have caught this as well.
And now you are all talking about special forces and all that, despite the fact that the President said it is the last option.
Nobody talked about improving the first option. Negotiations, giving the police access to tap phones and cellphones, so they can listen in to negotiations; development of nego skills of the ground commanders.
Ang unang ginawa ng Presidente, nag-sample ng rifle. The gun freak is talking about assault capability, not negotiation capability. Nice prioritization di ba?
What about Emilio Gonzalez III? Wala bang investigation? It is within the President’s power to remove him.
What about the backlog of cases at that office? Can the House not ask for a report of all cases pending, and when they were filed and submitted for resolution? Can Niel Tupas not ask all who have pending cases to report to his committee the case number, when it was filed, and when submitted for resolution? That way, the House can check the massaged numbers of the Ombudsgirl with the report of the litigants, including our bayong here.
The Glue, evil genius that her people are, was proactive. They invented other bad occurrences to deflect the attention of the people. This President can do it differently, by doing something good to compensate for the hostage fiasco. And I mean actions that produce noticeable results, like investigation of Emilio Gonzalez III, etc.
The setting up of a special forces will have to await another hostage taking to prove its efficacy. I’m sure nobody wants to test that now or ever.
If the only tool you have is a hammer, you will regard every problem as a nail (Abraham Maslow). Ayan, reaction ng gun freak. Bumili ng high tech na baril, mag-ensayo ng mga sharpshooters and other gun freaks.
Ang ugat ng problema ay si Emilio Gonzalez III and the denial of justice because it was delayed. Yang ang ayusin.
@111
“Hindi pa ni PNoy alam hangang ngayon. Malaking kalokohan ito. Hindi na kailangan ang pangalan. Baka ma-libel pa si Bishop Cruz.”
Kung totoo hindi dapat matakot sa libel. Ikalawa bakit ba parang binubunutan ng ngipin ang magsiwalat kung sino nga ang tinutukoy.
“He gave a clue: the two hold security-related positions which include eradication of the illegal numbers game. Another clue: “One of them began getting his share of the other, who came into the picture fairly recently.”
Ah sige.
Bata o matanda?
Mataas o pandak?
Maitim o maputi?
Mataba o payat?
May buhok o kalbo?
Macho o bading?
May bigote o wala?
Maong o slacks?
Polo barong, amerikana o polo shirt?
O baka meron ka pang maidadagdag ng clue para matulungan natin si Pnoy humula.
Indeed! I think the president can or should, on his own, backed by the “anonymous” tip from Bishop Cruz, actually ask the NBI secretly to look into the Bishop Cruz’ tip.
However, I agree with Manuel that the manner in which Bishop Cruz (of whom I am admirer) is perhaps a bit over the top. I’m sure Bishop Cruz meant well but the way the tipping was done reminds me a bit of the Medieval era’s witch hunting by the clergy… Difficult, difficult…
Didn’t Versoza last month give Noynoy a status-report on jueteng in all the regions?
What Persi-Noy can do is this:
(1) Ask incoming PNP chief to obtain a written statement 17 PNP regional commanders about jueteng and kidnapping-for-ransom in all their individual regions;
(2) To provide an assurance to P-Noy that there is no jueteng in all regional commands.
Noynoy does this every 3 months and that should put GMA’s administration to shame. GMA Talsik Diyan!!!
@saxnviolins #117,
Isn’t Rico Escalona Puno, the DILG Undersecretary and PNoy’s gun buddy, a weapons supplier? Maybe improvement of police equipment is Puno’s sound advice to our President.
Anyone please correct me about Puno being a gun supplier?
@tingog boss #120
Ang masaklap ay since Day 1, pinahiya ni PNoy ang sarili, without Gloria batting an eyelid. Ayan tuloy hagikhik ng sekreto si putot.
@tingog boss – September 14, 2010 8:23 pm
Brilliant idea — doable too. Of course, there is every chance that PNP commanders will affix their signature to such “honour” document but heck, it’s one good first step.
That said, I don’t believe they will be able to eradicate the illegal numbes game. Would be better to legalise this darn nuissance of an issue.
@#120
Better if Persi-Noy tells Archbishop Cruz:
1. He will investigate, and if found with basis, fire and prosecute all PNP commanders who continue to tolerate jueteng and accept payola from jueteng operators.
2. Just gimme names, dammit.
Because a certification/assurance from corrupt cops will be self-serving.
Now Cruz has taken it upon himself to police the police and that is good. He can work with the president by feeding him information. Just give him names, dammit.
Legalize jueteng! Legal income na, may SSS pa! O, huwag papalag ang mga moralists dyan!
MB, you are so defensive. You sound like Alex Magno ang Carmen Pedroza for Gloria Arroyo.
Since you take it against Archbishop’s Cruz for saying that two of his executives plus four more officials are on the take from jueteng oeprators, then ignore it.
Let jueteng flourish. Kalimutan na yang matuwid na daan. And hirap dumaan doon. Sa liko-liko na lang tayo. Mas madali, malaki pa ang kita.
hahaha, mukhang suko na lahat ah.. at gusto na gawing legal ang jueteng… ganyan kahina ang gobyerno ng pilipinas… pinaluluhod ng mga jueteng lords…
Correction: Ang hirap dumaan doon.
Take a look at this statement by PNoy on why he doubted the expose of Archbishop Cruz:
“The P2 million per month compared to the billions going into jueteng seems such a pitiful amount.”
He said he learned that jueteng was a P37 billion industry and that it was making a profit of P9 billion a year.
So, he finds incredulous the P2 million. Dapat mas mataas.
P2 million a month? Unbelievable.
Ano sila, cheap?
#126
I am for legalizing jueteng para malaman ng mananaya na dinadaya sila.
But my attack on the methods of Bishop Cruz are not to be mistaken as a defense for PNoy. If Cruz did his homework then he would have revealed the names and then PNoy will have to investigate specific persons. Then we will know whether PNoy is for real or not depending on how he acts on the findings of the investigation.
The way Cruz did it, using a shotgun instead of a rifle, madaming collateral damage na inosente pero neither you nor I know until now who exactly he was accusing of taking payola and who was giving it.
Matuto kang mag-distinguish between a defense and an attack para alam mo kung sino ang kakampi at sino ang kalaban.
#118
O baka meron ka pang maidadagdag ng clue para matulungan natin si Pnoy humula.
Tanungin mo si Madam Auring baka mayroon siyang clue. Baka iyang anino ni PNoy ang suspect.
Let jueteng flourish. Kalimutan na yang matuwid na daan. And hirao dumaan doon. Sa liko-liko na lang tayo. Mas madali, malaki pa ang kita. – Al
Bwahahaha! Legalize muna, Al…baka yun ang tuwid na daan. 🙂
Also, Puno didn’t want to name names the messengers of the jueteng operators. Takot malikida? Kung ganyan na nagkakatakot lahat ng may alam e buti pa talaga na gawing legal ang jueteng. Anong kapupuntahan ng fight against illegal numbers kung pati tagapagpatupad e takot?!
@ 121 NFArice.
Bakit police lang? Gawin na yang concurrent Usec ng Police at Defense on procurement, para maganda ang mga baril ng mga mamang nakabaro.
@ 125 chi
Ayaw ng legalized jueteng, pero palalakasin ang small town lottery. Same banana, different name.
Para yang civil union daw ng bading at tibo. Payag ang moralista sa lahat, live-in, mag-sex, mag-adopt, magmana ng social security, etc., ayaw lang matawag na “marriage”.
Kailan pa nagturo ng semantical stupidity si Kristo? Hindi ko makita sa Biblia yan.
#126
Hindi lang shotgun ang gamit ni Bishop Cruz sa jueteng expose’. Ang ginamit niya ay double-barreled rifle with laser scope. Kaya specific ang kanyang targets. Bakit (saints) santos ba ang nakapaligid kay PNoy?
@134
Dapat pilitin si Puno i-reveal kung sino ang lumapit sa kanya. Alam niyang mga messenger yun. Napanood ko sa TV nung sinabi nya yun. Walang palusot dyan. Sabihin niya kung sino ang lumapit sa kanya at nagtanong
#136
Specific? Ano ka? Sino nga ang binaril niya? Pakisagot nga.
Ako!
“I told them that in my job, a lot of people say ‘they already talked to me and that things were approved by me and they can operate.’ That is what I am trying to avoid. That’s why I refuse invitations to talk or meet with anyone,” Puno said.
Asked why he didn’t move to arrest the emissaries, Puno said these people did not tell him anything anyway.
“They asked if they can meet with me. That’s it. I told them I don’t need to set an appointment because in my view, they will be proposing something which I would never agree,” the undersecretary said.
What were people saying here during the impeachment payola, with regard to Among Ed and that Samar politician? If they played along, they could have set up a sting to gather evidence to nail the people attempting to offer a bribe.
Lost opportunity na naman, in the case of Rico E. Puno.
May pattern na itong si Rico E. Puno as a loser. 🙂
Puntahan niyo si Reyna Elena sa kanyang barriosiete.com.
Naka-post ang sagot ni Noy kay Reyn Barnido. The fellow whose article I consider superb writing.
Judge for yourself, whether this President has achieved as much as he says his administration has. Straight from the horse’s mouth yan.
Yung dalawang achievements, I find it difficult to believe that it was produced by good management. As one poster there said, the 5,000 new jobs would have been created anyway, whoever won the elections.
With regard to the Millennium money from the US, that is what accountants call “goodwill”. (Tama ba Reynz?). Kung maganda ang pangalan mo, mas mataas ang value ng stock ng kumpanya. Kung may marquee na pangalan na pumasok, tulad ni Linus Torvalds or Bill Gates, maraming mag-i-invest sa kumpanya mo. Similarly, dahil mabango si Cory at si Noy (reflected glory), magbibigay ng pera ang mga Kano. It is because of the name, not because of any achievement or perceived achievement that the money is given.
#140
sabihin na lang kung sino para mapilitan din si cruz magsabi. tapos tignan natin kung ano ang gagawin ni Pnoy
Yan ang maganda at tamang senaryo, manuel.
Siguro may e-mail si Bishop Cruz. PNoy should e-mail Bishop Cruz for more details in his jueteng expose’. Siguro hindi na kailangan ang protocol kapag interest ng taumbayan ang nakasalang.
Okay. Sumagot na si Reyn Barnido sa sagot ni Noy.
I said it before, and it bears repeating.
This is one superb writer; in substance and style.
Thanks for the discovery Reynz.
Sagutin kaya ule ni Noy si Reyn? Kung ang sumulat ng sagot ni Noy ay ang hydracom, wala silang binatbat kay Reyn. Pagbutihin naman nya dyan sa communications group, kakahiya ang sagot nyo, walang laman. 🙂
…don’t know about this reyn guy, he seems to be popular in this victorina blog, not favotable though…
http://donavictorina.blogspot.com/
…can anyone shed light on this subject, its a bit disturbing…
personally i see all this as “misdirection” minefields and attempts to tie up the hands of this administration…already people are falling for the gambit and valling for the president to “micromanage” so early in the game. this he should not do. prioritize key objectives, delegate others…this one falls in the “others” …
…only simpletons and “losers” will fall for this trap…
we have a job to do, lets just do it…
…for those of us left who are directly and indirectly involved (and affected) in running the economy locally, we should not let this cheap distractions coming from people with questionable credibility…bottomline, don’t take them seriously as they don’t even contribute anything, just cheap talk…
…if the president fails, we all fail…i said it before, the private sector will take care of the economy, it will stay afloat…but it will be difficult with so much “uncertainty.” in my years of dealing with foreign companies, this is probably the one administration who enjoys much confidence, trust, and credibility…its only our fellow filipinos who are causing troubles, why is this? we try to sell the country as an investment opportunity and some people (noisy ones) make us look like charlatans…
…which begs the question “don’t you guys have anything better to do?” please help the leadership, don’t help gloria…
so snv, please, is there any way you can use your supposed expertise to directly benefit the country? cheap talk isn’t going to help…as the singaporeans say, we are fond of “talk, talk, talk…”
again all these shit shifters!
have you ever wondered why there are some people who wherever they are, perenially, can only see so much shit everywhere? they stay in the country, they see nothing but shit, they move away, so much shit…they carry so many shit with them , it never runs out, the problem is, they tend to see shit in others too, so they throw all these shiot around…amidst a world of opportunities, beauty, love, redemption, hope – all they see is shit…my god…
…its not the end of the world, the view from my terrace is superb, there are bigger opportunities just up for grabs, more to bring back to our countrymen…
…the country does not revolve around jueteng…
…depending on where you stand, you see the world in different views…why stay in the shit hole?
…i challenge everyone to be hunters, to be farmers, to be providers…
…focus on bringing money, food, opportunity, to our country…don’t wallow in self flagellation and crab mentality…
i don’t know this guy but why is he all over the internet?
http://the-chronicles-of-e.blogspot.com/2009/10/rain-rain-go-away.html
http://quezoncitychorva.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/118/
http://barriosiete.com/16th-state-of-the-barrio-address-world-pissed/
http://twitoaster.com/country-ph/momblogger/radiantvew-is-this-the-guy-you-know-rt-mojojojo899-momblogger-reyn-barnido-reynaldo-barnido-rain-barnido-its-all-the-same-crook/
http://delfindjmontano.blogspot.com/2009/12/rainb-running-man.html
…what a mess! you guys better get a day job fast!
Aywan ko kung sino sa mga commenters dito ang may personal experience sa jueteng. Bago ako nangibang bansa, naging kubrador ako ng jueteng sa aming barangay. Ang aking tiyuhin ay isang kabo ng jueteng kaya alam ko lahat na kwento sa likod nito.
Kahit may inteligencia buhat sa barangay officials, local police at mayor pati na ang mga konsehales, nagkakaroon pa rin ng raids dahil mayroong pulis na hindi naaambunan, niri-raid nila. Madali naman kaming nakakalabas dahil kakutsaba ang autoridad. Ni walang kaso. Tuloy ang mangungubra, kahit nga pulis, nangungubra rin sa loob pa ng municipio.
Ang ganitong eksena ay pareho rin sa provincial level. Ang kausap naman dun ay governor at PNP provincial commander. May SOP lahat yan hanggang sa regional command. Maliit lamang ang sahod ng nasa gobyerno kasama na ang kapulisan at sundalo. Open secret yan sa isang bayan kung sino-sino ang tumatanggap ng jueteng payola. Additional income, sabi nila. Kakarampot lang naman daw yun kumpara sa bilyones na na pinaghahatian ng matataas na opisyales ng administrasyon na gumon na sa talamak na pandarambong sa kaban ng bayan. Tuwing eleksiyon, lahat na kandidato ay may suporta ng jueteng money kaya kahit sinong manalo, bingo!
Sa ganang akin, hindi na kailangang isiwalat ni Bishop Cruz ang pangalan na ng alipores ni PNoy na diumano ay tumatanggap ng jueteng money. Alam na ng autoridad yan. Siempre, magde-deny to death ang mga yun at ang mga witness ni Bishop Cruz, matutulad sa mga naunang whistleblowers. Kung hindi mapariwara ang buhay, dedbol.
Nagkaroon na ng Congress investigations noon at ipinatawag ang mga sinasabing jueteng lords na sina Bong Pineda, Charing Magbuhos Armand Sanchez, etc. Walang nangyari kasi wala raw ebidins. Ibig sabihin, walang jueteng! Kaya yun, naging gobernador pa ng Batangas ang yumao nang Armand Sanchez. Si Lilia Pineda, asawa ni Bong, gobernador ngayon ng Pampanga. The last time nakita si Charing Magbuhos, nakasakay sa isang Mercedes Benz na kulay puti.
Kung aalisin ang jueteng, alisin na rin ang STL. Iisa lang ang nagpapatakbo nyan. Sino pa, eh di ang mga jueteng operators!!! Ang tanong: Kakayanin bang timbogin?
“Aywan ko kung sino sa mga commenters dito ang may personal experience sa jueteng.” – sim
Huweteng na naman. I’ll say the same thing I’ve been saying here when Huweteng is the topic. Where I grew up in Baguio during the early 60’s, we had four kobradors…one day I had the privileged to tag along with one of the kobradors to attend a nightly draw. It’s a fixed drawing, the two numbers (at that time it was 1 thru 37), were already known to the operators. Talagang anak ka ng dios kung manalo ka. Pure Luck!
Majority of noypis/naypis have that profound pride in them with the mere mention of how the motherland is the only English speaking nation in Asia, couple that with oooh it’s a country which is 90 percent catholics like it’s supposed to be morally law-abiding citizenry. It’s an illusion.
Our form of government was patterned with the US, and we even have a military institute which some people call the West Point of Asia.
But Pinas is still an immoral country. Most that comes out of PMA are corrupt, Inept, and practices lawlessness. The call for legalization of Huweteng is another stupid illusion. Now, why would lawmakers (actually mostly lawbreakers) agree to that notion? It will never happen. It’s easy money flowing into corrupt politician’s treasure chests. If legalization is the answer; and of course it’s the right thing to do, it could have happened during Apo Macoy’s presidency, or the morally righteous Cory.
To me, and I’ve said if before; the real answer to kill this deceptive numbers game is for the players to completely stop playing it. Sabong is legitimate, not bad to throw in your 100 hundred pesos every now and then to one of the combatants, your chances of winning is 50 percent as opposed to almost nil. I know, I know, sabong is not 100 percent clean.
However, I’d like to see one righteous congressman propose a bill to legalize Huweteng soonest and put to test the mindsets of every legislator…and see who are the antagonists and protagonists.
PNoy said that 2 million pesos jueteng payola is too cheap. The corollary is that he might be privy to jueteng. This is not a fantastic claim. One of his uncles is a jueteng lord.
Also Puno alleged that he was approached by a jueteng operative. Shouldn’t PNoy also demand Puno that he name names? Unlike Cruz, Puno is directly under PNoy’s command for christ’s sake.
By the way I am in favor of the legalization of jueteng. Unfortunately trapo’s would rather keep it illegal.
kung gusto nyo matigil ang jueteng.. paupuin as DILG Sec si Sen. Ping Lacson.. pasensyahan sa moro-morong Dacer-Corbito Case with lutong macao fabricated affidavit!
NFA, kung kilala ni Puno ang jueteng peratives na nag-offer sa kanya e di siguradong kilala na rin ni PNoy, they are best of buddies. Its a fair assumption lang naman don’t you think?
Jug #153 …”i challenge everyone to be hunters, to be farmers, to be providers……focus on bringing money, food, opportunity, to our country…don’t wallow in self flagellation and crab mentality”
Talk is cheap and often very much easier said than done.
What opportunities are you talking about?
How can you challenge people to work, bring in food and money when there are no employment opportunites; to be farmers when there’s no land to till; be providers when there’s no capital; etc, etc…?
Want somebody to pick up your challenge?
1)Provide the people needed capital to start a
business that they maybe self-employed.
2)Build your own factories throughout the land and
employ all unemployed Filipinos.
3)Parcel and distribute your haciendas to
tillers, farmers and the landless.
Now if you can do this, everybody will have the opportunity to work, bring food and money for their families, be farmers not tenants, and even be hunters during their holidays and spare times.
Everybody will then be enjoying the luxury of life courtesy and generosity of Jug without any burden to the Noynoy government.
I’ve always imagined that the socio-economic, and political landscape of the motherland is different if these islands of 7,000 plus is only but one big island. Mass protests will be really Mass Protests.
Kaya nga napasigaw si Arhbishop Cruz when he was asked to name names. Cruz cried: “Ano, hindi pa nila alam kung sino sila?”
HIndi po ako tumataya sa kahit na anong sugal lalo na s jueteng. Nagtataka lang ako…. bakit na naman kaya pinaputok itong weteng na ito, samantalang marami namang dapat na pagtuunan ng masusing pansin. katulad ng ILEGAL NA DROGA??? Hindi po ba mas dapat na pagtuuunan iyan ng pansin at marapat na sugpuin? nagtatanong lang po….