The swords are drawn.
President Aquino gave orders to investigate crime against the Filipino people. Pampanga Representative (2nd district) Gloria Arroyo files a resolution to amend the Constitution.
First day of the new administration and Gloria Arroyo has served notice that she won’t be just waiting for sheriffs to pick her up and dump her in jail just like what she did to her predecessor, President Estrada.
Together with her son, Camarines Sur Rep Diosdado “Dato” Arroyo,she filed a resolution calling for the convening of Congress into a constitutional convention for the purpose of amending economic and political provisions in the Constitution.
Her previous failed attempts to change the Constitution revealed that she prefers a parliamentary form of government.
In his inaugural speech, Aquino ordered Justice Secretary Leila de Lima to give justice to the Filipino people who have been wronged by the policy of impunity that Arroyo practiced during her nine years of stolen presidency.
“To those who are talking about reconciliation, if they mean that they would like us to simply forget about the wrongs that they have committed in the past, we have this to say: there can be no reconciliation without justice. Sa paglimot ng pagkakasala, sinisigurado mong mauulit muli ang mga pagkakasalang ito. Secretary de Lima, you have your marching orders. Begin the process of providing true and complete justice for all,” he said.
Aquino also announced the creation of a Truth Commission to be headed by former Chief Justice Hilario Davide which would investigate and put closure to the many anomalies involving Arroyo and persons close to her.
Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said they are drawing up the mandate and parameters of authority of the Truth Commission that will be set up to look into allegations of corruption and abuse of power during the Arroyo administration.
Lacierda said the commission will investigate and build a case against erring government officials and not only Gloria Arroyo.
I seriously doubt if this Truth Commission is the right body to make Arroyo answer for her crimes against the Filipino people. Lawyer friends said since it will be created by an executive order, it would not have the prosecutorial powers.
It would not be as powerful as the Presidential Commission on Good Government created by President Cory Aquino to recover the ill-gotten wealth of the late President Marcos which had sequestration powers.
What is important is the political will to set an example of accountability; for official of the government to be aware that if they commit acts detrimental to the interest of the Filipino people, they would have to answer for that.
There’s a long list of Arroyo’s crimes. Number one is stealing the elections. And there’s the “Hello Garci” tapes to prove that. The body that would investigate Arroyo should ask her what she was “sorry for when she came out with that infamous, “I am sorry” video message.
When she tampered with the results of the elections with help of former Comelec Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano and a number of military officers, she not only stole the presidency from Fernando Poe Jr but she robbed the Filipino people of their constitution right to elect their president.
That’s why I am disappointed that it’s Davide that Aquino chose to head the Commission. In the first place, it was Davide who installed Arroyo to an unelected presidency, administering her oath of the presidency even when there was no vacancy to the position in violation of the Constitution. It was his court that legitimized Arroyo’s illegal presidency with that “constructive resignation” doctrine.
Davide served as Arroyo’s representative to the United Nations even after she was exposed to have cheated in the 2004 elections.
Actually, the Cha-Cha resolution may just be an added weapon that Arroyo is trying to build to protect herself. She has reasons to feel confident that she would be safe with Davide as investigator.
This was articulated by her son,Mikey Arroyo who had good words for Davide although he just mentioned the NBN-ZTE case: “With his impeccable background and given his renowned objectivity in handling issues, however controversial they are, I am highly optimistic that the Truth Commission, with Chief Justice Davide at the helm, would come out with the most objective conclusion to the NBN-ZTE saga, clearing all those wrongfully accused by those who used the GMA administration as a jumping board for their political objectives.”
Mikey further said “I just pray that if ever that happens, our critics will honor and respect the Commission’s findings and put the case to rest.”
I would be more than glad to be proven wrong about Davide. Maybe his opportunism could work in interest of the Filipino people. He showed himself to be unethical when he enlisted the help of businessman Lucio Tan to have Estrada appoint him chief justice. But when he saw the imminent fall of Estrada, he did not have qualms of executing the final push.
Who knows he would be consistent to his being a political opportunist and do to Arroyo what he did to Estrada.
Well written, Ms. Ellen.
Mag comment lang ako.
1. Truth Commission – we still do not know yet how it will operate. My opinion is that Aquino will ask Congress to pass a law which will give this Commission powers and funding. If not, it will be a fact finding body. Even as a fact finding body, it is good enough for me as it will document the scandals surrounding the last administration. Exposing Arroyo with proof and evidence, without necessarily immediately convicting her as the same will be up to Sandiganbayan, will suffice, for me.
2. Davide – We have different view regarding EDSA 2 so I won’t dwell on it. I am sure you know that Davide was (maybe still is) a politician before he joined the judiciary. As a member of the court he knows the law well and he can be considered as a good jurist. As a politician he knows how to play his card well, being in good grace with Cory, Erap, Arroyo and now Aquino. He may have served under Arroyo but his new master now is Aquino. He knows too well the current that swept Aquino to the Presidency and I doubt, as I politician, he will go against this current. A whitewash by Davide under Aquino administration? I don’t think so.
Another thing, those pronouncements coming from the Arroyos regarding Davide’s role in the Commission, they are wishing they will come true. Coming from Mikey Arroyo, every 10 words he utters, 11 lies come out of them.
Basta alam ko si Davide ay super balimbing at super oportunista.
“Who knows he would be true to his being a political opportunist and do to Arroyo what he did to Estrada.”.-Ellen
Sana nga. O baka tapos na ang termino ni Noynoy ay hindi pa tapos ang imbestigasyon ni Davide kay Gloria dahil sadyang patatagalin para ilibre ang kanyang patrona. Hindi ko yata magawang maging positibo kay Hilario at Berto. 🙂
as I politician, he will go against this current. A whitewash by Davide under Aquino administration? I don’t think so.
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This is the looming technicality with regards to this seeming “lapse in judgement” (to quote gloria) on the part of Noynoy.
Kung wala pang ALZHEIMER’s disease itong hinayupak na si Hilario, dapat niyang tandaan na siya mismo ang nagpa-sumpa kay gloria para maging presidente ito kahit na wala namang “vacancy” sa posisiyong pagka-presidente na inu-upuan noon ni Erap.
So the question is, “how will Davide, with all his “imPWEHcable” knowledge in jurisprudence (as some people would say) begin his first day in the TU-RU-RUTH” commission to investigate gloria and her minions knowing fully well that HE was part of the MOB that ousted Erap ? How would he show by fucks, este FACTS (pala) that because of him (Davide), gloria would not have assumed the presidency and committed all the charges she will now have to face and for which Davide will (hopefully) find her guilty of ?
The truth is, Davide swore gloria in, Gloria ruled, she lied, she pre-meditated a take-over, stole not only the presidency but the national coffers as well, she corrupted people and a whole BULOKRASY, was a protector of drug lords and mafia-like groups, was a criminal coddler (like herself),……..need I say more ? I could go on and on even to the extent of making shambles of her sagging boobs. But that would eat a lot of space.
These and more just because Davide “legalized” her being a president.
Now, what charges is Davide going to throw at gloria that he himself is not implicated ? It will be like Davide spitting up in the air and the same drops on his face.
All things come to an end, matatapos din yang mga kalokohan ni Gloria…its interesting to see who would support this move though and how fast they can mobilize…
The swords are out…the way i look at it parang Mapurol ang sword….may kalawang pa nga..(Davide,Romulo..etc..)
I’m NOT favor sa pag-entra ni Davidead sa UNTRUTH Commisyon, 101% don’t trust sa taong ito…walang pinagkatandaan sa pagiging abugago?
Ang ginawa niya noong EDSA II e tahasang pagyurak sa dangal at pagka-abugado ngang naturingan e bopol pala sa paginterpret ng Saligang Batas o batas na siyang pundasyon ng demokrasyang bukang-bibig na dapat e maghari sa bansa.
Kung nagawa ni Davidead ang isang pagtatraydor sa ating Saligang Batas…ano ang aasahan natin sa UNTRUTH Commisyon na yan?
Dapat kasamang kasuhan yan ng treason at pagtatraydor sa lehitimong Pangulo ng bansa na kanilang inagawan ng kapangyarihan.
Bakit…siya pa!
maybe the rationale for davide’s appointment is to provide a perception of credibility and balance which is difficult if you name a person who is patently anti-gloria.
maybe the rationale for davide’s appointment is to provide a perception of credibility and balance which is difficult if you name a person who is patently anti-gloria.
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You got a point there, igang isaganigatmaitan. The problem is, were it not for Davide, wala sana tayong minu-murang unano ngayon na ang pangalan ay gloria.
While it would have been somebody else who might have administered the oath of office to gloria instead of Davide, the thing is, it was CHIEF JUSTICE Hilario Davide himself who, knowingly it was un-constitutional, did so anyway negating his sensitive position as the chief justice of the supreme court.
He played GOD. And boy, he did!!! Just look at what happened to his godly creation. He created a monster out of a fucking dwarf.
And now, without batting an eye, he accepted a position to investigate his creation and her devilish minions to find out if they indeed committed crimes against the Filipinos.
Lucky him. He is being given another chance to play god.
I have two words for you Hilario……..F–U !!!
Bantayan natin ang mga kilos at gagawin ni
Davide…tayo ang boss ni PNoy…tayo ang may kapangyarihan sa mga susunod na mga hakbang ng administration ni Pnoy…tayo ang may say….hindi ba tayo ang simula ng pagbabago…let us just wait and watch the steps of Davide..kung kasangkapan siya ng pagtalsik kay Erap doon…ngayon tayo naman ang magpatalsik sa sino man magkamali most specially those given the second chance to redeem themselves…magpakitang gilas…show us what you are worth…tunay ba o monopoly money? collect or go to jail ba ang titigilan ng dice mo sa larong Monopoly?
Fine. Then appoint one who is patently judicial and patently neutral. I can recommend a few:
Justice Vicente V. Mendoza, Justice Carolina C. Griño-Aquino, or Justice Delilah Vidallon-Magtolis.
Sabi ni Oblak sa # 1, Davide can be considered a jurist. Begging to differ Sir. Kahit wala yang Erap issue, hindi ako impressed diyan sa Cheap Justice na yan. He is not in the league of JBL, CJ Bengzon, or Alejo Labrador. I wouldn’t even rank him with the Macoy justices – CJ Ramon Aquino, or Justice Serafin Cuevas.
Lightweight yan, sounding like a heavyweight dahil sa titulo – parang Renato Corona. Yung mga heavyweights, mabigat dahil sa kanilang erudition -like Learned Hand, a court of appeals judge quoted by the US Supreme Court. Locally, there is Turing Tolentino, Vicente Francisco, and Ambrosio Padilla.
Come to think of it, both CJs from Cebu are lightweights – Davide and Celing Fernan. Parehong pulitiko na naging CJ.
From Batangas, we have two – Ramon Aquino, an authority in criminal law, and Corona, appointed by the criminal in authority.
Maganda and laban! Let us watch and see who wins!
If this Davide has a sense of decency, he should have declined the position because perceived na siya na maka-midget. Those who know a lot bout the crimes of the evil midget may just clam up because they do not TRUST the leader Davide.
Tanong ko lang kung bakit si Davide ang napili ni P-NOY para humawak sa kaso ni Gloria. Bakit siya.. gusto ba ni Pnoy na makamtam ang hustisya or hindi.
BAKKKIIIIIIITTTTT si Davide ang napili niya mamuno.
God knows what is best for the Phil…and let us trust in Him…
….bakit ba atat na atat na si putot na magchacha?…takot ba siya? sa boss ni PNoy? babalatan talaga siyang buhay…bantayan din ng husto si Tabbaboy..baka naman umarte at papasok sa St. Luke’s Hospital…dalhin kaagad sa funeral parlor at doon katayin…let us have a big bonfire…litsunin ang mga leche at isugba sa infierno…make it very well done….cremate them…tuhugin at iparada ang mga lecheng baboys…
bantayan din si Davide…at tadtarin ng pinong pino ang mga buto buto at itapon sa mga buwaya…
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davide reminds one of Randy David, who betrayed people’s expectation that he will run against gma in Pampanga, but withdrew at the last minute, David was one big disappointment
He played GOD. And boy, he did!!! Just look at what happened to his godly creation. He created a monster out of a fucking dwarf.-jawo
Bwahahahahaha!!! F-H talaga!
The gamble on Davide cuts both ways. First, we all know him to be Dr. Frankenstein breathing life to this monster Gloria. But the doctor had science behind him, not voodoo as this hilarious Davide had practiced – cutting the Holy Book that morning and eureka, the bible passage justifies the devil’s takeover at lunchtime. Talk about voracity!
Yes he was an opportunist but it is the same opportunism that could work the other way this time. His namesake/son has the hots for Cebu’s governorship and despite the loss to Gwen Garcia last month, Hilario III, now well-entrenched in the incumbent president’s powerful LP, would surely give it a second try in 3 years. Enough time for the father to lock up the Pidals in jail and bite the hands that fed him to impress his new boss in exchange for full logistic support for his son’s take two.
Sweet karma.
For me,I’ll give Davide a chance to prove his worth.If he does not measure up,Let Tongue to curse and crucify him. Is it fair to judge Davide at this early stage?
Ang natatandaan ko it was Erap who appointed him Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.Nagtaksil siya kay Erap dahil mapupunta siya sa glorya habang si Aling Gloria ang presidente.Ngayon naman another six year wala na siya sa gloria kaya papanig na naman iyan kung saan ang direction ng magandang simoy ng hangin.With his character,this guy will not swim against the current.
Mga bossing, may tiwala pa rin ako sa kababayan kong si Davide, na mention pa pati si Fernan kanina, mga idol ko pa naman mga yan… Kinsa ra may magtinabangay kung dili mga cebuano ra pud?
I’m pretty sure Davide will be able to accomplish the mission he is given…whoever he reports to is irrelevant, he will do what is asked of him…
davide is another aquino acolyte. so disappointing of noynoy. ballsy seems to be in control and everyone knows gumawa rin yung asawa niya nung panahon ni cory.
how can davide investigate arroyo when she made him rich and continued to employ his loser family members.
how can davide investigate arroyo when she made him rich and continued to employ his loser family members.-masha
Magandang tanong iyan. Katulad din ng tanong ko noon. Pano nagawang pagtaksilan ni Davide si Erap noon na siya ang nagpasikat sa kanya.Kaya para sa akin itong si Davide is Gun for Hire.Palagay ko kaya siya nagustuhan ni Pnoy sa katangian niyang pambihira.
I agree with cocoy…
About that Truth Commission, walang mangayayri dyan unless i-authorize yan ng Congress na may power itong mag-summon ng witnesses at mag-contempt. Otherwise, wala rin credible conclusion at closure sa mga issues na iimbestigahan nito. As things stand now, mukhang walang congressman o senator ang mag-iisponsor nito even soon-to-be Speaker Belmonte will not support this idea. Kung guston nilang imbestigahan si Gloria, I think the DOJ under Secretary de Lima is the right avenue for this. After all, may arching order na sya from day one to go after gloria et. al. So sa mga ginagawa pang isyu ang Truth Commission, I think dapat maliwanagan na sila na walang pupuntahan yan. You can ask any lawyer about this.
The truth commission has its purpose, lets just watch and learn…mga bossing…
Let us give the commission a chance.
Gusto ko kasing matuloy ito para magkaalaman na kung ano ano ang mga milagro at kabalastugang nangyari noong nakaraang administration.
Gigil na gigil tayo noon sa mga cover up at maneuvering ni Arroyo at mga kampon nya. Ngayong na yung pagkakataon na magkaroon ng linaw.
Maganda rin na sana DOJ ang gumawa nito kaya lang kadami ring pending na kaso na dapat harapin ang DOJ at baka mahilaw pa ang mga resulta.
Hayaan natin kung paano didiskarte si Noynoy sa bagay na ito.
Maganda rin na sana DOJ ang gumawa nito kaya lang kadami ring pending na kaso na dapat harapin ang DOJ at baka mahilaw pa ang mga resulta.
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Precisely the reason why the commission should be created. I don’t know why Binay refused to accept to head it though, Erap advised him to do so…
Truth commissions are typically created by presidential decree.Truth commissions do not have the power to punish,They do not have the power to act as a judge and to summoned,to my understanding they’re a team to investigate, seek to collect evidence from a variety of sources at kung may matibay na evidensya,isusubmit nila sa DOJ o sa sangay ng may makapangyarihang ahensya para dingin ang kaso.Kung baga sa crime scence sila ang SOCCO basta’t huwag lang silang sumuko.Kung DOJ o ang sangay ng NBI ang mag-imbistiga usad pagong ang imbistigasyon baka pagbaba ni P noy sa hagdanan ng Malacanang wala pang makalap na matibay na basehan para sampahan ng dimanda ang mga sangkot sa nakaraang katiwalian.
Truth commission is not a permanent position,pag natapos na nila ang inaatang na trabaho sa kanila na kung sino-sino ang kanilang iimbistigahan at maisubmit na nila ang mga report tapos na rin ang trabaho nila.
SNV, jurist ang sinabi ko, hindi naman great or greatest jurist in the Philippines. Kung aalisin natin ang political color sa career ni Davide at ituon sa pagiging abogado/commissioner/justice hindi naman mapagkakaila na may expertise siya sa batas. Iyan ang basehan ko kaya sinabi ko na pwede syang iconsider na jurist.
Yung other names that you mentioned, ang tanong ay papayag ba sila na maging head ng Truth Commission.
Nakalimutan mo yatang isama si CJ Fernando sa Marcos CJ na according to you ay hindi lightweight. CJ Ramon Aquino naman, hindi ba pareho lang sila ni Davide na nagadminister ng oath sa putative president.
Nakikiusap din sana na huwag naman yung mga sweeping statement na both CJs from Cebu are ligthweights. Maraming ways kasi to construe such statement and every which way, not pleasant.
#23 Orson.
Hindi na kailangan ang basbas ng kongress o Senate dito sa truth commission dahil ito ay Presidential Decree.Sakop na ng Presidente iyan.
RE: BAKKKIIIIIIITTTTT si Davide ang napili niya mamuno.
E bakit nga ba Igan Vonjovi2…alam mo di ako mapalagay, bakit ka mo kasi ganito yan…si Davidead ang siya dapat litisin sa nagawa niyang pagpanumpa kay Arroyo sa Edsa?
Ito ang puno’t dulo ng lahat kung bakit si gloria e umabot ng 10-years sa enchanted kingdom, ngayon dapat nating uriratin kay P-Noy bilang bosing niya tayong lahat na mamamayang Noypi na bakit si Davidead ang itinalaga niyang hahawak ng Untruth commission.
Ibig sabihin bayad-utang ito sa pakikikutsaba niya sa pagpapabagsak ng lehitimong gobyerno. Kasi sa totoo lamang, itong si P-Noy e huwag na siyang magmalinis kasi isa rin siyang accountable sa EDSA DOS conspiracy.
Mapa-gloria or P-Noy…ang mga Bulong-Brigade e kabilang sila sa civil socialites community na ngayon e bubuyog ng Malacanang.
Walang mangyayari sa kaso against gloria kung di magpapakatoto si P-Noy sa kanyang mga pangako ng pagbabago.
Ano ba naman kayo, walang nang magaling sa inyo! di pa nag uumpisa eh masyado kayon judgmental. Antayin muna natin ang trabaho nila, pag me nakitang kapal pakan, saka tayo magbubunganga. Pwede ba baguhin na muna natin ang asal, na puro complain, puro puna.. anatayin muna natin ang gobyernong ito na makapagsimula, tapos saka tayo umatungal pag me mali silang gingawa.
From Sammy Nimuan:
I am as disappointed as you are in Aguino’s decision to appoint Davide to head the Truth Commission.
Davide has no “delicadisa” in assuming the ambassadorship in the United Nations even when he was not confirmed by the Commission on Appointments.
Davide could be competent but could he fair considering that he administered the oath to Gloria as president when there was no vacancy? How could he base his decision that Estrada resigned “constructively” through a diary of a certain person whose integrity and credibility is questionable? Was that fair?
All politicians have no integrity and credibility. They can change their position in a wink of an eye. He was with Arroyo and now with Aquino!!! What a man. He was a jurist and now a politician. Appointing Davide is the first big blunder of Aquino’s presidency.
No choice na siguro si Aquino. Masyado niya kasing napangako sa publiko na bibigyan niya ng katarungan ang mga kawalang-hiyaan ng mga Arroyo. Kaya siguro kinuha nila ang taong siguradong mangcconvict, hindi na bale kung credible o kagalang-galang, basta yung alam nilang susundin lahat ng ipinauutos sa kaniya.
Sabihin nating susundin nga ni Davide ang utos na iconvict ang mga Arroyo (at idagdag pa natin ang pagiging oportunista niya), hindi ako mapalagay dahil ipinangako ni Aquino ang ‘daang matuwid’. Kung gagamitin naman nila si Davide para sa agarang pagcoconvict sa mga Arroyo + injustice (tulad ng ginawa niya kay Erap), bale wala din ang platapormang good governance ni Aquino diba? Saakin lang, the end does not justify the means.
Hindi ko talaga mabigyan ng benefit of the doubt itong si Davide. Nakakainis.
#30 Oblak : if im not mistaken CJ Enrico Fernando is also well known for his photographic memory aside from being experts in law
But the thing is, in a Truth Commission, limited ang information na pwedeng makuha nito. for example. Sa Garci Tape, pwedeng makakuha sila ng transcript nito. Pero they may not be able to summon those people na nabanggit dun sa Garci tapes, yung mga generals, yung mga election officers, etc. At pwedeng i-contest yung commission if they are summoned to appear since di naman ito ordinary court with that power. So kung incomplete ang information, how can you arrive sa truth that you want to establish. That’s why unless Congress legitimizes that commission to have the same powers as the court, then pwedeng maa-achieve nya ang purpose nya. Take note sa DOJ at sa mga courts, bago mag-proceed ang kaso dapat may probabale cause na ma-establish. I think if thae Truth Commission fails in that first step, anumang findings o efforts nito will simply be disregarded because di ito na verify especially when we speak of yung mga testimonies ng mga witnesses o nung mga supposed culprits. I think the best is to pattern after the speciel prosecuting team nung kay Erap under the Ombudsman where Erap and all those involved had their day at the Sandiganbayan where they can all defend themselves.
Kayong bumabatikos sa desisyon ni P Noy,matutuwa si Norbie Gonzales sa inyo at baka imbitahan kayong magpadala ng resume sa kanya for his “Shadow Government”.
Ganyan talaga ang kalakaran ng pulitika lalo na sa atin.Legislators, in turn, are rampant political party-hoppers, peddling their loyalty and votes to the highest bidder.Politicians mostly Tongressman have switched parties many times as they negotiated public works projects for their districts and jobs for their friends.
The wheeling-dealing helps explain why every politicians in government since the country returned to Independence has been wracked by major scandals.Corruption seems to be an intrinsic requirement in our politics. In the United States they get away with having rotten government because they are a rich society. But Philippines is a poorer country. It has really horrific problems that need to be solved.
Why don’t we give P Noy a chance to get rid those rotten and corrupt politicians. In his two days in office binabaklas na ng mga kinauukulan ang wang-wang kahit na tutol si Binay.Iyan ang simula ng pagbabago at sumunod lahat sa batas ng walang pinipili.
Sana bumalik na tayo sa 2 party political system at alisin na rin iyang mga Party List na ginagamit ng mga mayayaman at maimpluwesyang tao.Magkaroon ng party nominees at convention kung sino talaga ang nararapat na tumakbo at mamuno,hindi iyang porke may pera ka na tumakbo ka ng kandidato at bibilhin ang mga botante para sigurado ang panalo.Iyan sana ang mabago sa political landscape natin.
Itong binuong Truth Commission ni P Noy ay magagaling ang mga taong ito under kay Davide.Kaya lang hindi natin alam kung sino sino sila.Mga experto at batikan ang mga tauhang ito sa palagay ko sa pagkalap ng ebidensya. Truth commissions are officially sanctioned, authorized, or empowered by the President. This, in principle, allows the commission to have greater access to information, greater security, and increased assurance that its findings will be taken under serious consideration.Kaya lang hindi maisapubliko kung ano ang findings nila,bahala na ang korte na hahawak sa kaso, magtiwala na lang tayo sa kanila na magiging patas sila dahil hindi sila masusuhulan ng mga iimbistigahan nila.This is a Team work effort sa mga members ng Truth Commission.Si P noy ang mapapahiya dito kapag pumalpak sila.
Oh, you are mistaken.
Enrico Fernando was not a SC Chief Justice. He is a triathlete (Ironman X-treme Sport) from the US.
You must be referring to CJ Enrique Fernando, the law partner of Sen Lorenzo Tañada, successor to CJ Fred Ruiz Castro who died before retiring. He turned down an offer to head a commission to investigate the assassination of Ninoy Aquino which was later taken by retired CA Justice Corazon Juliano-Agrava (Agrava Fact-finding Commission).
Yan ang porno-, este photographic memory ko.
Ang sabi ni brand-new DOJ Sec De Lima, the Truth Commission will be patterned after the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa, which investigated apartheid after Nelson Mandela came to power. I’m not familiar with that body but we all know the apartheid was put to an end.
Although this Commission merely duplicates the functions of the DOJ, an honest-to-goodness investigative work by a group dedicated to prosecuting only the Arroyos and their cohorts puts the much needed legwork and the resources FOCUSED on a few specific crimes.
It would have been less effective if the cases against Arroyo are allowed their routine treatment in an understaffed and underfunded DOJ/Ombudsman. The creation of this special commission and I assume, a special court later, with special funding from the chief executive, will expedite the whole process of providing justice to the victims of the Arroyo regime, which happens to be all of us.
While they may not have the full powers of the Justice Dept., working closely together with De Lima’s department will assure that the synergy will sustain each other’s shortcomings in order to achieve a more efficient prosecution of the Arroyo crimes.
Who can argue with that?
#39 TT: thanks for the clarification, it was CJ Enrique Fernando
Kosang Tounge, ako naman ang mag exercise ng photographic memory ko. Unang naappoint si CJ Fernando sa commission pero andaming bumatikos kaya pilit pang sinasama noon si Cardinal Sin sa commission para mag imbestiga ng pagpatay kay Ninoy. Tahakan namang sinabi ni Cardinal Sin na duda sya sa version ng military, hindi na tinuloy ang commission under Fernando. Tapos inappoint si Corazon Agrava. yan ang naalala ko.
Pero sure ang photographic memory ko pagdating kay CJ Fernando at ang payong.
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Oblak:
Ang pagka-lightweight ni Fernan at Davide ay base sa perception ng ibang mga practitioner, noong inappoint ni Cory si Fernan, at noong i-appoint si Davide. My point about Cebu is that marami namang mahusay na galing sa Cebu, bakit silang dalawa pa? Dahil pa may kapit?
I have appeared in Cebu several times, at mahusay ang rulings at pagdala ng court proceedings ng RTC judge. Maihahambing ko kay Delilah Vidallon-Magtolis. Ngunit tila doon na nag-retire yung judge, hindi man nakatungtong sa CA.
Ano ang track record ni Davide? Wala siyang prosecutory/investigative experience, wala ring RTC experience. Hindi marunong magdala ng proceedings. Pinaiikutan ng grandstanding lawyers.
Yung kaisa-isang trial to ferret out the truth (impeachment ni Erap), iniwanang naka-tengga; pinabayaan ang prosecution na mag-walk-out. Try that stunt with Justice Jose Campos, tiyak na contempt ka.
So now this non-performer will head the Truth Commission?
Naalala ko tuloy yung isang boksingero na may pangalang Carl “The Truth” Williams. Siya daw ang katunay-tunayang mahusay. Kinalaban si Mike Tyson, bagsak, knockout, si Carl sa first round.
Ang headline, “The truth hurts.”
Yan din ang kay Davide. I have yet to meet a lawyer, other than Oblak, whether in the Philippines or New York, who considers Davide an intellectual heavyweight.
Nagtalumpati yan sa Philippine Consulate, kasama si Edong Angarapal. Ang tanong ng Fil-Am, na tila hirap maniwala, “Is that the Chief Justice”?
And don’t start me on CJ Panganiban and his economic model.
I remember as a freshman law student listening to CJ Roberto Concepcion, nakatungkod na, aided by his best friend, JBL. Tinayuan ako ng balahibo. Talagan malalim. The forum was discussing amendment 6 of Macoy. Una si Turing, with his usual erudition. Tapos responde naman si Perfecto Fernandez, with equal erudition, and scathing wit. Nakupo, intellectual feast. Daig ko pa ang maniac na nakawala sa dressing room ng Miss Universe.
Gone are those days. Ang huling biniliban ko ay si VV Mendoza, Grino-Aquino, at si Callejo. I hope PNoy appoints a good one.
SNV, ito lang ang point ko, kaya nakiusap ako na huwag naman sweeping statement. Maaring hindi naman nagbabasa ang mga Cebuano ng blog na ito pero si Davide at Fernan had inspired some Cebuanos, who are not necessarily lawyers. Short of saying that these two are respected in Cebu specially in the academe. These two, including Justice Hermosisima are sources of pride among the Cebuanos.
Kung matantandaan mo noong mag file ng impeachment against Davide sina Erap at Teodoro (yes Gilbert), wala silang nakuhang support. Ang impeachment ay offshoot ng pagkakatalsik kay Erap. Respectable people rallied behind Davide.
I just cannot accept that there is a perception among practioners that Davide and Fernan are lightweights. Are these practitioners also litigators? If they are, I cannot see how they can form such perception when Davide and Fernan were never trial court judges prior to their appointment to the Supreme Court. I think it was you who pointed out in previous posts long time ago about anecdotal something.
My apologies to all posters for this rant.
#39 Tongue. See told ‘ya guys! 🙂 Wala akong kamalay-malay dyan sa mga names na yan. Maaasahan ko talaga memorya mo.
“Pero sure ang photographic memory ko pagdating kay CJ Fernando at ang payong.”
Nakabaligtad din ba, kuya Oblak? hehehe!
Yung kaisa-isang trial to ferret out the truth (impeachment ni Erap), iniwanang naka-tengga; pinabayaan ang prosecution na mag-walk-out. Try that stunt with Justice Jose Campos, tiyak na contempt ka.
So now this non-performer will head the Truth Commission?- atty sax
“non-performer”, another key word ni Davide.
Atty, Justice Jose Campos still alive?
Madam Chi, ano naman palagay mo kay Imelda, alkansya?
Sumakabilang buhay na si Justice Campos, hindi lang ako sure ang exact date pero time during the term ni Arroyo, siguro four to six years ago.
SNV, if I were a lawyer, I don’t think i can bring myself to call my brother in profession a lightweight!!
Magandang tanong iyan. Katulad din ng tanong ko noon. Pano nagawang pagtaksilan ni Davide si Erap noon na siya ang nagpasikat sa kanya.Kaya para sa akin itong si Davide is Gun for Hire.———–>Cocoy
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If such is the case, then Davide is but a mere lousy mercenary garbed in a magistrate’s black robe. Meaning, he is a double-edged sword just waiting for the next big deal.
He can be part of a de-stabilizing plot (like he did with pandak-kikay), but would be a willing snitch if he cuts a deal with the new powers would-be. The sad part is that he would surely bat to be absolved of his accountabilities as his bargaining chips for self preservation.
As Noy realize that politics is a practical profession, he now finds himself in a pact with the devil to ferret out what he hopes to be the truth. But how far will Davide spill it out without self-incrimination ?
Davide, as a mercenary, found his calling once again, this time, with Noy.
Oblak, i think SNV is giving preference to greater interest, it is a moral obligation to state ones honest opinion, more so if it concerns a brother in profession.
Hopefully, P.Noy will appoint most credible and competent personalities as members of Truth Commission.
I hope some factors other than the belated switch of support by davide convinced P.Noy to appoint him.
Many politicians supported P.Noy during the eleventh hour not to help P.Noy but rather to protect their own interest, after surveys showed Noynoy consistently on top.
>>>>to summoned,to my understanding they’re a team to investigate, seek to collect evidence from a variety of sources at kung may matibay na evidensya,isusubmit nila sa DOJ o sa sangay ng may makapangyarihang ahensya para dingin ang kaso.———–>Cocoy
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Bottomline is that all solid and incriminating evidences will have to be submitted to the Ombudsman. And we all know who the Ombudsman is. Just look at what happened to the case of Joc-joc Bolante. May nangyari ba ? Wala !! Kumandidato pa nga ang tarantadong ugok (buti na lang at natalo) !!!
Merceditas Gurierrez should better do her job this time around or face un-adulterated impeachment. In case she still doesn’t get it, there’s a new sheriff in town.
Cebuano kaya ako mga bossing…I met both Fernan and Davide in the past as guest speakers in our organization. I don’t believe they didn’t do anything worthwhile, on the contrary, we hold them in high esteem.
No one is perfect, and we will never know the reason behind or the principle behind Davide’s past actions unless we really look into it or allow him to speak and defend himself…then we each make more informed opinions…of course, mine is just a suggestion, mga bossing…
Tama si jawo, dapat naman kasi nag submit na ng courtesy resignation yang ombudsman na yan….yan ang dapat gulohin, magrally sa harapan ng opisina niya hanggang mainis na lang…
Oblak:
Between Celing Fernan and Regalado Maambong, if I needed representation, I would go for Maambong.
Also, Justice Alfredo Marigomen of the Court of Appeals (retired na ata).
I’m sure you know that they are both from Cebu.
dito ngayon ma divie-divie si davidi..kung wala siyang makita na truth sa kanyang report…lagot siya sa boss ni Pnoy..kung may mapailabas siyang truth at napatunayan niyang kasama sa gawain ni dwende, aka kama kama aka wicked dwarf kukurutin siya nito sa si–it until he turns black and blue…sino ngayon ang kakampihan niya? ang ex-boss niya na dwende o ang boss ni PNoy na ang karamihan ay mga kabataan…an army of youth flying the “standard of truth”, who will fight for the rights they adore..”? now indeed it will be a “puzzlement” for him…and the end na siya…ihanda na niya ang kanyang funeral march…
#54: juggernaut : “tama si jawo, dapat naman kasi nag submit na ng courtesy resignation yang ombudsman na yan….yan ang dapat gulohin, magrally sa harapan ng opisina niya hanggang mainis na lang…”
i agree with you, or maybe create another probe body similar to function of ombudsman, and cut budget of ombudsman if merdeditas gutierrez doesn’t resign, so it will die a natural death
the sword must be sharpen against the remnants of a previous corrupt gma regime
It is okay, yung ganyan, SNV, I can agree with you that you can make your choice between Fernan or Maambong. I may not agree but i respect your opinion sa ganyan.
I just hope maintindihan mo lang yung context ng reply ko kanina. You can tear Fernan and Davide down, okay lang sa akin. Sabihin mong pinakabobo ang dalawang yan, okay lang kung opinion mo yun. Ang pinakiusap ko lang naman kung nahihinaan sa kanila at ikakabit mo sa pagiging Cebuano nila, huwag naman. I just hope you understand!
Oblak:
You are seeing shadows. Read my post at 42, part of which says:
Gusto mo ng mahusay na Cebuano, Justice Manuel C. Briones, uncle ni Celing. Justice Briones wrote ponencias in both Spanish and English. I remember laboring over his ponencias in a few cases we had to read, with my fractured Spanish.
Kapag nag-search ka ng “Manuel Briones” sa lawphil(dot)net, ang daming credits kay Justice Briones. Marami siyang appearance sa Supreme Court as practitioner. I-search mo si Celing, wala.
Hindi na kailangan iresearch pa, kilala ang Briones sa Cebu. One big highway sa Mandaue para kay Justice Briones. Kaming ordinaryong tao sa Cebu, hindi naman nakilala sa Briones sa pagbabasa ng decision na ginawa nya. Kilala si Briones, in the same way na kilala sa Maynila si Gil Puyat, Epifanio delos Santos o si Tomas Morato.
sumakabilang buhay na si Briones nung magkamulat ako.. Hindi katulad nina Davide at Fernan na naabutan ng generation ko na nakikita namin at alam namin na dapat ipagmalaki dahil sa nagawa nila
Para namang hindi mo alam ang kalakaran sa judiciary from Marcos time to Arroyo. Syempre hindi pa kay Noynoy at wala pang naappoint. Alam mo din na under Arroyo, bago ka maappoint, kailangan ng endorsement sa mga politiko, obispo, cardinal at kilalang taong malapit kay Arroyo. Ganito din ang kalakaran noon pa pero mas lalong lumala kay Arroyo. From Marcos to Arroyo, except nung first few years ni Cory, nababasura ang matrix sa pagpili ng judge or justice. Ang importanante ay sponsor.
Yan ang sinasabi ko, nagpadrino si Davide o si Fernan, i will agree with you na hindi dapat nangyari yun. Mali sila Davide at Fernan kung nagpadrino sila.
Since nag quote ka rin lang, ang nagpanting ang tenga ko (o mata ba dapat?)
“Come to think of it, both CJs from Cebu are lightweights”
— jawo
Good question well put!
As SnV opined, Noy needn’t have wasted the goodwill he’s enjoying today by appointing Davide to a sensitive post — he could have gone for a less controversial figure, someone with not a lousy baggage as Davide’s.
RE: BAKKKIIIIIIITTTTT si Davide ang napili niya mamuno.
balweg – July 2, 2010 1:50 pm
E bakit nga ba Igan Vonjovi2…alam mo di ako mapalagay, bakit ka mo kasi ganito yan…si Davidead ang siya dapat litisin sa nagawa niyang pagpanumpa kay Arroyo sa Edsa?
Sa akin palagay ay baka may aggreement na sina Gloria at PNoy (sna wla naman) na di niya ipapakulong si Gloria basta bumaba siya sa puwesto. Kay Si Davide ang nakuha niya. Baka may under the table agreement. Kasi di naman bababa si Gloria basta basta kung walang kasunduan eh. Alam niya na marami siyang kasalanan.
Sana naman ay walang under the table agreement.
Kawawa na naman ang bayan puro pangako at napapako lagi.
people are seeing ghosts where there are none. let pnoy do his job alone at least for the next few months. davide was not alone in putting gloria into power, the people did.
Actually, madali namang i-convict si Putot kung gusto. Kung kay Erap wala yatang appreciation of evidence e, ayun convicted ng Special Court. Pero magiging Machiavellian rin ang gobyernong ito kung ganoon ang gagawin.
Kaya I understand where saz is coming from. May pagka-idealist na typical lang sa mga taga-UP. Kaya lang, wala nang magagawa e, si Davide na nga ang na-appoint. Yan ang mahirap pag maliit na circle lang ang ginagalawan, ni walang preparasyon maging presidente e. Siyempre kung yung iba ang nanalo, matagal nang handa kung sinu-sino ang iuupo.
Aminado naman si Davide mismo na wala siyang court experience bago maging CJ. Inarbor lang talaga ni Lucio Tan yung pwesto. Kahit sa Amerika, hindi lang non-lawyer, non-graduate pa, naging CJ.
So tayo, hanggang hinaing at hintay na lang ng resulta. Magandang idea yung Truth Commission para sa akin. Mas maganda pa sana kung hindi si Davide ang pinuno.
Approve yan sa akin Ka Gani. Pero sigurdo ako na hindi yan palalagpasin ni Pader.
So far, yung mga statements ng mga cabinet members sa turn over ceremonies ay encouraging. Tulad nung sa DOJ, DENR, BIR at yung crackdown na ginagawa ng LTO, PNP at MMDA!
Ilan taon din tayong nagtiis kay Arroyo, kaya wala namang masama na umasa na mag succeed si Aquino kaysa sa maging mabigo.
Ang sumira sa gobyerno ni Arroy, yung credibility problem. Iyan din ang problema ngayon ni Davide.
Bakit ba hindi na-consider man lang si Ex-CJ Puno?
Pinakamataas ang credibility rating niya sa gobyerno, retired na at puwedeng pakiusapang konting panahon pa para sa bayan. Dito na rin niya maipapakita yung spirit ng kanyang moral recovery advocacy.
ka oblak:
okay lang ang diskusyon, basta’t bawal ang pagtaas ng altapresyon, hehehe.
Ang sumira sa gobyerno ni Arroyo, yung credibility problem. Iyan din ang problema ngayon ni Davide. Bakit ba hindi na-consider man lang si Ex-CJ Puno?
Pinakamataas ang credibility rating niya sa gobyerno, retired na at puwedeng pakiusapang konting panahon pa para sa bayan.——–>Toungue
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Ang pagka-kaiba ni (Ex) CJ Puno at (Ex) CJ Davide:
(Ex) Chief Justice PUNO—————————–> RETIRED, high credibility
(Ex) Cheap Justice HILARIO DAVIDE———–> RETARDED, no credibility
SNV and OBLAK: both of you presented good opinions, bottom line is Phil sorely needs more credible judiciary as well as lawyers, even P.Noy mentioned need to overhaul justice system, and stop courts acting like auction houses. The very corrupt judicial system is one reason why insurgency still exist.
Paano pa mababalikan yung Hello Garci at iba pa eh yung mga ginamit na tao eh na-promote na at nabigyan na ng biyaya. Granting that the Mayuga report finally gets published, yun bang mga na-interview doon eh mga tunay na witnesses at ano na ang mga puesto nila ngayon. Baka naglalakihan na ang mga bahay at head na ng mga departamento nila.
Tignan na lang natin kung ano ang magagawa ni Davide to put the bitch away. Tapos na ang appointment niya. Wala na tayong magagawa kung hindi magdasal at magantay sa mga resulta.
Tongue, hindi ba ti-turn down ni CJ Puno yung alok? I thought I read that.
I saw an address kanina sa TFC…Bgy. Putatan, Muntinglupa…is this where Davide will send her?
Parasabayan, yung sa DOJ ang inalok kay Puno na tinanggihan, inalok din kay Fr. Bernas, tinaggihan din. Hindi naman binalita kung sino sino ang kinonsider na pinagpilian sa Truth Com.
Pero napabuti din na tinanggihan ni Puno at Bernas at si Delima ang napili.
Rose, sa NBP ba? I think sa Mandaluyong padadala si Arroyo. sa NMH o Correctional, take your pick.
From Pete Medina:
I could not help but agree with your disagreement of the appointment of davide to the truth commission.
Your basis are many. Same with P Noy’s staying Romulo as foreign affairs secretary.
These guys ‘cavorted’, tolerated, condoned, joined, abetted gloria’s impunity. The least that P Noy could have done is accept their courtesy resignation and get replacements from those who did not ‘collaborate’ with gloria.
I hope i’m wrong in my fears.
RE: I hope i’m wrong in my fears.
You’re KOREK Mr. Pete M., kaya kami e nagpuputok ang butse ng dahil sa 10-years ng rehimeng arroyo na winasak halos lahat ng institutions sa ating bansa?
Nangyari ang lahat ng ito sa tulong ng mga hudas at traydor sa ating lipunan na ngayon e karamihan naglipat-bakod + Bulong-Brigade na sila ngayong magpapatakbo ng gobyernong P-Noy.
They are all both accountable sa paghihirap ng bansa at least evil na ngayon e anghel ng kaliwanagan na sila ang may hawak ng gobyerno ngayon.
Sila lang ba ang Noypi sa ating lipunan…90M ang populasyon natin at dapat dito manggaling ang tunay na lingkod-bayan NOT lingkod-BAYAD or lingkod-BULSA!
RE: Ang pagka-kaiba ni (Ex) CJ Puno at (Ex) CJ Davide:
(Ex) Chief Justice PUNO—————————–> RETIRED, high credibility
(Ex) Cheap Justice HILARIO DAVIDE———–> RETARDED, no credibility
Nawa e maging katulad mo Igan Jawo ang karamihan sa ating mga Kababayang Noypi…nag-iisip at mayroong paninindigan magbigay ng opinyon kung ano ba ang TAMA o MALI.
Marami kasi e SUNOD sa AGOS-BRIGADE, kung saan makikinabang o kaya makaka-ambon ng biyaya e doon sila?
Nakakalimutan yaong prinsipyo at paninindigan…kaya heto ang Pinas masyado nang apektado sa mga utak-lamok nating Kababayang lingkod-bulsa at lingkod-bayad!
(Ex) Chief Justice PUNO—————————–> RETIRED, high credibility
(Ex) Cheap Justice HILARIO DAVIDE———–> RETARDED, no credibility
Puno is the author of Estrada’s “constructive resignation” in case you missed it.
Davide maybe retarded but guess who gave him his biggest break: ERAP.
Cheers.
Puno is the author of Estrada’s “constructive resignation” in case you missed it.————–>ricelander
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Did he, really ? I guess I missed that one.
Anyway, since I never read anything to concur or disprove this, I still say Davide is an ASS.
The younger son of Arroyo, Rep. Dato Arroyo, said he was confident his mother could defend herself well against whatever case may be filed against her.Dato, however, said he wished those who would investigate his mother would not resort to “witch-hunt.”————–>By Norman Bordadora, Dona Pazzibugan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
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Dato Arroyo need not worry. I mean, this would be the least of his worries as far as his mother is concerned. Read this thread, Dato, “there will be no witch hunt” !! No, there’s no need to. The hunting part is over. We already know who the witch is. It will just be a matter of reconciling her with her trusty broomstick.
RE: The younger son of Arroyo, Rep. Dato Arroyo, said he was confident his mother could defend herself well against whatever case may be filed against her.
Ganoon naman pala Igan Jawo e…well, magkakaalam-alam ngayon pa na wala na siyang immunity?
Habang nag-aantay tayo ng resulta sa mga isinampang kaso at isasampa pa…mag-enjoy muna tayo sa WangWangWee!
RE: The younger son of Arroyo, Rep. Dato Arroyo, said he was confident his mother could defend herself well against whatever case may be filed against her.
Ganoon naman pala Igan Jawo e…well, magkakaalam-alam ngayon pa na wala na siyang immunity?
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Hayaan mo, igang Balweg. Let them shout to the world their last hurrah. I mean anybody can defend themselves when need be,especially if one has the means. Putting up a good defense is one thing. Winning against the same is another story. And based on what appears to be real incriminating cases against Gloria, these will be the times that Gloria wished she had never been born.
na appoint na si Davide…there is nothing we can do now to remove him…bantayan natin ng husto ang mga gagawin niya..he is in big trouble right now kasi tayo ang boss ni Noynoy…magingat siya..nasa caldero na siya at kumukulo na ang tubig…boil! boil! boil! ang sabi nga ng three witches .. nagumpisa na ba siya sa kanyang tungkulin? I am sure Ellen will keep us an update of the investigation..sana itelevise ang proeedings..handa na ako magpuyat sa pagbantay sa TV.. wow wow wow wee!
sana ipalabas na rin ang investigation kay Neri..he is supposed also to tender his “courtesy” resignation as well sa lahat ng hawak niyang position?
issues during campaign period:
gma corruption with impunity
maguindanao massacre
corrupt justice system
overpriced gasoline products
oppressive E-Vat law
high electricity rate
high unemployment
jueteng
illegal drugs
impending SLEX 250% toll hike
“Gagawin nating kaaya-aya sa negosyante ang ating bansa. We will cut red tape dramatically and implement stable economic policies. We will level the playing field for investors and make government an enabler, not a hindrance, to business. Sa ganitong paraan lamang natin mapupunan ang kakulangan ng trabaho para sa ating mga mamamayan.”
great words of wisdom from P.Noy
rose, noon kay Gloria, siya lang ang boss. Kahit si Satanas yata, sa kanya nagmamano.
Ilang beses ko na yang sinabihan dito na, “Gloria, you’re fired!” pero naka siyam na taon pa.
Tongue: ngayon na ikaw na ang boss ni PNoy masasabi mo kay gloria…”you are now in fire” masusunog ka na at we will make sure that you will be cooked very well done..cremated para walang lason na matira..ang mga buto buto mo lauya ang labas….
maiba ako hindi ba noon may resto ka? at ang specialty ay grilled liver ala gloria?…kailan ang re-opening?
..nakita natin ang pag alis ni putot..si Tabbaboy saan nag punta? is he now in Victoria Peak? nagpapasarap?
totoo maliit ang circle ni PNoy…pero hindi ba ang bato pagitinapon sa tubig creates a ripple effect at lumalaki ang circle..hindi ba ang amoeba ay mallit ang umpisa pero lumalaki din siya? given time (and not just a week) ang maliit na circle na sinasabi ni PNoy sa kanyang speech..will soon produce a ripple effect sa lahat ng mga boss niya…tayo ang boss niya! and let us not forget that..kaya si Davide kung hindi siya magpakatotoo ay lalagot ang ulo..