Kawawa naman itong sina Melchor Magdamo at Arwin Serrano.
Naglakas ng loob isiwalat ang bulok sa Commission on Election. Sa halip na purihin at binigyan ng medalya, minura at dinuro pa sila ni Commissioner Nicodemo Ferrer.
Nangyari itong insidente isang linggo sa miting tungkol sa anomaly ng P700 milyon na kontrata tungkol sa plastic folders na pantakip para daw magiging sekreto ang pagboboto.
Si Magdamo ay dating nasa staff ni Comelec Chair Jose Melo at si Serrano naman ay sa Parish Pastoral Council for Responsible Voting, ang isang pribadong organisasyon na binigyan ng Comelec ng lisensya magigigng taga-pagbantay.
Maala-ala natin na inapbrubahan ng Comelec ang pagbili ng 1.8 na folders sa halagang P380 bawat isa. May ginto yata ang folder na yun.
Ang nabulgar na may kagagawan ay si Executive Director Jose Tolentino, na palagi nyo nakikita sa TV ngayon sa imbestigasyon ng Committee on suffrage sa House of Representatives tungkol sa automation.
Nakalipas na ang eleksyun at alam naman natin na talaga namang walang pakinabang ang mga folder nay an. Kayo ba gumamit ng folder na yun sa pagboto nyo? Ako, hindi.
Nakita nyo naman ang nangyari kay dating Pangulong Joseph Estrada, di ba? Anong secrecy ang pinagsasabi nila?
Talagang despalinghado ang pag-iisip nitong si Ferrer dahil ang miting ay tinawag para kastiguhin sina Magdamo at Serrano kung bakit raw nagsumbong sa media sa halip na sa kanila?
Sa TV interview kay Magdamo ,sinabi niya hindi totoo na inuna niya ang media bago sa mga opisyal ng Comelec. Isinumite niya ang report sa mga commissioner ngunit hindi nila pinansin.
Binigay niya ang report sa hepe ng legal department na si Ferdinand Rafanan na nabahala sa impormasyon. Paano napunta sa media, hindi niya alam. Ngunit nagpasalamat rin siya sa media dahil sabi niya, ang paglabas ng katotohanan ay naging protekyun niya.
Sabi ni Magdamo, may mga natatanggap siya banta sa buhay niya. At sabi niya, “Kung may mangyari sa akin at kay Dr. Serrano, si Tolentino ang may responsibilidad.
Ipinagmalaki pa ni Ferrer na nanduro siya. “I can point my finger at you whenever I want to. Who are you anyway?”
Bastos pala itong si Ferrer. Ang yabang pa.
O ano ngayon kung pumunta sa media sina Magdamo at Serrano? Ang mahalaga ay katotohanan ang sinasabi.
Itong si Ferrer pala ang nagdesisyon laban sa Ang Ladlad, sa Migrante at sa Magdalo.
Mas makukuha ng Comelec ang tiwala ng taumbayan kung wala ang mga opisyal na katulad ni Ferrer.
Re: Ipinagmalaki pa ni Ferrer na nanduro siya. “I can point my finger at you whenever I want to. Who are you anyway?”
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Super bastos at yabang, dapat walisin at sipain na si Ferrer. Tutal, he can’t distinguish between right and wrong, moral and immoral naman. Palagi siyang bias sa mga decisions. Kaya walang tiwala ang tao sa Comelec ay dahil sa mga taong arogante na gaya ng Ferrer na ‘to!
Siguro si Commissioner Nicodemo Ferrer ang Mafia boss sa loob the Comelec. Astig dahil malakas ang koneksion niya sa Malacanang.
Guilty kasi kaya nanduro. Matapang dahil Mafia Boss ng Comelec.
Magkano kaya ang nalimas sa Comelec ni Nicodemo Ferrer sa katatapos na election? Dapat sa garapal na yan ay ibalik ang duro pero yung middle finger ang ituro sa kanya.
Palagay ko 10 porciento ng 10.2 billion pesos para sa automated election. Instant millionaire siya. Parang nakajackpot sa lotto.
Kaya naman nagkalat sa internet yung “Hello Ronnie” tape nila Ferrer at ni Puno pati na yung palitan ng email nila ni Puno, ni Puno at GMA, at ni Puno at Kanong si Hardaway.
Nawala ko yung link bukas-sara kasi yung website dahil tinitira ng mga hackers.
Hindi naman uusok yan kung walang apoy.
Nagulat ako sa paliwanag nung EXPERT ng DOST na nagbigay ng “tip” kung paano aw ia-appreciate yung data na nasa COCs.
Pag na-add mo raw yung null votes at yung number of votes ng lahat ng presidential candidate ang total daw ay ang total number of voters who voted. Nasa dokumento ng Comelec yon, binabasa pa nga ng Secretary General ng Senado kanina sa canvassing.
Ano raw yung null votes? Pag nag-overvote ka raw sa presidente, one null vote daw iyon. Pag wala kang ibinoto sa presidente o nag-undervote ka, plus one din sa null vote yon.
Ganun din sa VP, null vote ang under at over vote.
Ang naging problema kung bakit hindi binilang yung boto ng COCs ng Baguio City dahil sa reklamo nung abugado ni Erap. Alerto yung abugado ni Erap ha. Pag na-add mo raw lahat ng boto ng mga kandidato sa pangulo at dinagdag yung null votes, lampas sa number of voters who voted.
Kaya naman pala nagkakaletse-letse ang bilangan, bobo yung EXPERT. Kung blangko ang presidente ko, plus one sa null vote. Pag blangko uli sa VP plus one uli sa null vote.
E di dalawa na ang null vote na nabilang samantalang isa pa lang ang bumoboto, hindi nga magta-tally yung total voters who voted at yung scores. Tanga!
Paano na kung pati sa Senators, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Councilors, etc ay merong over at undervoting? E di sa isang balota pa lang binibilang na nilang ilang tao ang bumoto. Tapos merong 75% voter turnout daw na ang pinagbasehan pala ay maling datos ng ‘total voters who voted’?
Hmmmm…teka…
Isinantabi rin yung COCs ng Ilocos Sur dahil hindi nag-electronic transmission ang Comelec ng Ilocos Sur.
Pina-handcarry ba sa Batasan ni Swabit yung COCs? Naku…
Nahilo ako, Tongue.
Tongue, hindi ko mabuksan-buksan ang link na yan even the first time you mentioned it here.
Tongue, pwede ba translate mo sa layman’s lingo, hindi ko magetsing ang nu-null votes. Lintek na techno expert yan.
“Itong si Ferrer pala ang nagdesisyon laban sa Ang Ladlad, sa Migrante at sa Magdalo.”
Si Ferrer din kaya ang nag-apruba (pina-apruba) na payagang sumali ang party list ni Mikey Arroyo at Angelo Reyes? Nanalo tuloy.
Heto ang masakit. Is this a signal of a break-away from Erap? 😛
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=580318&publicationSubCategoryId=63
Kung may dayaan may bayaran. Ang aking tanong ay bakit hindi ba nakayang bilhin ni Money Villiar ang dayaan? Napakaimposible naman yata.
Parang ang international community acknowledged na nila si Noy as the next president, Pinoys na lang ang hindi pa.
Tongue:
I believe there was just a coding problem in aggregating the totals per position. They should have distinguished null votes per position, instead of total null votes. Double counting nga, kaya over.
I think there can be one null vote per position. If this were the old manual system of totaling, there would be one column for Aquino, one column for Erap, etc., and one column for abstain (if no president were marked). There would also be one column for spoiled vote (the term we used in UP Law, when I was in the Electoral Tribunal, when somebody wrote nonsense, like Nora Aunor or some other name). In this case, spoiled vote would be the overvote, marking say Aquino and Erap.
So if you count the total of Aquino + Erap + Villar + etc., + abstain, + spoiled, then you would arrive at the total of those who voted. So null vote here, I take to mean either abstain or spoiled vote for that position.
There can also be a spoiled ballot, which is, when the entire ballot is spoiled, because it is defaced, unread, etc. In that case the spoiled ballot should yield one null vote per position.
Since totals are counted per position, they can check for consistency by simply comparing the totals of the president and the vice-president. They should yield the same number of total voters. In other words, the total of Aquino + Erap + Villar + etc., + null (abstention and overvotes), should equal the total of Binay + Mar + other candidates, + null (abstention and overvotes).
Asus, ganun pala ang ibig sabihin ng DOST expert. Thanks, atty. sax.
Henry,
Just read the link.
Talaga naman itong si Rufus. He’s hogging the limelight once more. I wonder what he hopes to achieve by pre-empting the canvassing.
Never trusted Rodriguez. He’s mayabang, he’s unreliable and he doesn’t know the meaning of giving one’s word.
By the way folks, have we any news about the VP position?
Wind has gone into the brains of the members of Comelec. Ferrer probably thinks that just because he’s the Republic’s ‘kingmaker,’ he has the right to be bastos.
That guy’s mouth ought to be glued or stitched so that whatever he says from now on will naturally come out of his backside.
Bastos!
#15 – Sax
I agree with your arithmetic.
You can arrive at the total number of voters based only on the votes for the president and vice. The totals of both positions will be equal no more, no less.
Add all the votes for the president plus all the voids, null, etc. that went into the ballot box, and that’s the total number of voters. If you arrive at a difference between the votes of the president and vice president, then there’s something wrong, because it’s impossible to have a discrepancy when you are adding the same ballots.
It’s one ballot for every voter; the null or void votes are those filled up by voters that were either unreadable or defaced but still to be considered and counted only as under the null votes.
The total number of ballots cast, good or spoiled is the total number of voters.
Palagay ko 10 porciento ng 10.2 billion pesos para sa automated election. Instant millionaire siya. Parang nakajackpot sa lotto. — DG
Right you are DG!
The entire Comelect topside will have gotten a lot of money from the contract they signed with Smartmatic and most likely, they still have receivables, i.e., for a couple more years to come.
(Ellen, I believe Ferrer won’t resign today even if he’s being kicked out by the people because his staying in office is his insurance so that the money will keep pouring in.)
There is just NO FRIGGING WAY the wouldn’t have. They may deny it until they are blue in their faces but they can’t say they’ve become saints all of a sudden and did not accept tongs or won’t accept further tongs. No way!
No commerical contract with Pinas govt or its agencies can go through without a cut or % of the contract amount. That’s how you do business in Pinas govt or its agencies.
Why do you reckon lil people who came from modest families and then went up the ladder after joining govt service and who never went beyond the 1,000 dollar a month salary became very very very wealthy after serving with govt?
How can many top bureaucrats and members of the military send their children to top private schools and universities with the meagre salaries they get? (How do you reckon Angie became an instant multi-millionaire less than a year after he became DND?)
(How do you reckon Angie Reyes became an instant multi-millionaire less than a year after he became DND chief?)
Melchor Magdamo and Arwin Serrano should be commended for blowing the whistle, instead they are being harassed. And it’s because a multi-million peso easy money that supposed to go to their pockets went into the drain (?) because of them.
It’s been the norm under Gloria that whistleblowers were given a hard time, being sued, threatened or terminated from employment. Ferrer’s action is not surprising, he is just being consistent with the policy of Gloria that whistleblowers be aware of who are they up against. Oh yeah, who are these whistleblowers anyway?
Ferrer is a constitutional officer so he can not be fired. The only way to kick him out is impeachment, and corruption is an impeachable offense, so maybe the next government may intitiate an impeachment to get rid of him.
People like him who is bastos, arrogant, mayabang and magnanakaw has no place in a government service.
its GAME OVER for nicoDEMON ferrer …….
Di na uso ang mga katulad ni Ferrer sa kasalukuyang panahon, marami sila, alamin natin ang kulay nila at huwag ng pagkatiwalaan. Huwag iboto.
Tantaradong Nicodemus Ferrer ‘yan, ah?
Nag-aral nga, aso naman ang ugali. Letse!
Ano’ng karapatan niyang manduro sa taong nagsasabi lamang ng katotohanan at nagbulgar ng kanyang kabulukan? Parang siya ang nagpapalamon, ah.
Ganyan na ba siya? Parang siya na ang may ari ng Commolect?
01 June 2010
Off topic:
Speaking of election, why is it that rmulo macalintal is speaking on behalf of ang galing party list, is he the official spokesman of AGP?
Since he resigned as the election lawyer of gloria “the leprechaun”, is he the lawyer of AGP?
Can anyone please tell him or ask him to to ask her sister who is the incumbent labor attache in Australia to resign first, before he open his mouth.
Macalintal is also a user, he used his being the election lawyer of gloria to have her sister appointment in Australia.
Hindi ba dapat na mag-resign din dapat ang kapatid ni macalintal dahil hindi naman tag labor itong kapatid nya, at ginamit lang nya ang kanyang impluwensya para ma-appoint ang kapatid nya.
Ms. ellen pede ba pakisilip ito.
On the other hand atty. macalintal is correct when he said that the proclamation of AGP should be upheld, since the complaint is against mikey “the drunk” arrovo, este arroyo and not against the agp?
prans
Dapat turuan ng leksyon yang si Abugagong Ferrer…ke tigulang na e walang modo?
Ano pa ginagawa niyan sa Comelect…ugali-asal, walang pinagkatandaan!
Hindi dapat pamarisan ang tulad ng matandang yan, ang mga pahirap sa bayan na tulad niya e dapat bigyan ng leksyon ng matuto.
RE: Super bastos at yabang, dapat walisin at sipain na si Ferrer.
Aba e kailangan di na yan pinagtatagal pa sa Comelecta Ingan Chi, pera ng bayan ang pinangpapasweldo sa damuho na yan?
Sige mga Kapatid huwag natin tatantanan ang matandang walang pinagkatadaan…sabi nga ni Igan Chi e super bastos na at yabang pa.
Dapat ikuwintas sa matandang Ferrer na yan ang RA 6713 ng matauhan…dapat turuan yan ng leksyon ng matuto?
SECTION 4. Norms of Conduct of Public Officials and Employees. — (A) Every public official and employee shall observe the following as standards of personal conduct in the discharge and execution of official duties:
(a) Commitment to public interest.
(b) Professionalism.
(c) Justness and sincerity.
(d) Political neutrality.
(e) Responsiveness to the public.
(f) Nationalism and patriotism.
(g) Commitment to democracy.
(h) Simple living.
Ang sarap iduldul sa pagmumukha ni Ferrer itong Section 4 ng RA 6713 at ipakain itong nasabing talata from a to h ng maimpatso.
This lunatic Ferrer is also part of comelec mafia along with another lunatic Puno & Evil GMA.
See the link: http://cheatinginc.host-ed.net/
what can one expect from the lapdogs of a bastos bogus president, but a bastos lapdogs also
masamang puno, masamang bunga
True result Makati:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r_mQfMoVBM&feature=related
Garapalan na talaga ang pandadaya kahit saang angulo mo tingnan ay kinakailangang ideklara to ng failure of election.
NEWSFLASH: 2.6 million null votes for vice-president discovered
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=580544&publicationSubCategoryId=200
This is the point I’m raising as to why we have to be mindful of the declarations of so-called EXPERTS. More so, of those lawyers and politicians in the House who were never trained in programming. (eg, Rodriguez praising Smartmatic’s “Fail-proof and tamper-proof” system.)
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to determine precisely how many voters ACTUALLY voted BASED ON ANY of the totals appearing in the COCs. Even in the ERs. Unless NULL votes were summed up PER CONTEST (president or VP, etc.) and not one lump sum of all null votes. The only way to do it is via a ballot counter.
We know it didn’t happen that way since in the Baguio COC, the number of votes (I presume it was for president since it was Erap’s lawyer who questioned it) plus null votes FOR PRESIDENT exceeded the number of voters who voted.
The canvassing program module (several modules or “routines” make one complete program) is a very simple program in itself and it’s very similar to the very first code any programming student is taught. (FYI, yours truly has 3 Certificates of Proficiency in Programming, one each for a different language, ehem.)
That is why the competence of Smartmatic is very much in question after they came out, first, with a total registered voter of 153M, and later when it was transmitted to the House, total registered voters of 257M when this data didn’t even require any computation but merely an I/O read-write process – READ from Comelec’s database and WRITE into Smartmatic’s printout report. At the worst, maybe an addition program if Comelec’s spreadsheet/database didn’t have any totals (which I doubt).
Florry, mali yung understanding mo ng “Null votes” (2nd to the last paragraph of comment #20)
According to the manual they were reading and the DOST “expert”, a vote becomes null when: 1) NO candidate was selected, and 2) when MORE THAN THE REQUIRED NUMBER of candidates were selected.
Iba pa yung VOID, that is when the machine cannot read the security code. Like if the voter spills the indelible ink on the barcode at the sides of the ballot, that ballot is VOID and all votes therein are disregarded.
I read the emails in the website linked by ken at # 31.
In the May 7 email of Puno to the Glue, he states:
In an earlier post, I was reminded of the anecdote of a chef, where when the wait staff dropped the turkey, the chef said, go inside and get the other turkey. They took the “fallen” turkey inside, and garnished it, and re-served it.
Ganyan nga ang nangyari, it seems. There was a big to-do about replacing, and everybody was saying there was no time to reconfigure. Yung pala, same same din pala.
Really sneaky.
tests tests
#35
Tongue:
2.6 Million is four, almost five percent of the 51 million voters. The null votes for president are said to be one million, or two percent of the voters.
The figures for the president don’t look like an improbability to me. Dito lang sa Ellenville, marami kayong nagsabing none of the above ang boto niyo for President.
Now about the VP, as the Comelec said, the null votes are either those who abstained, or those who marked more than one candidate. If somebody wanted to vote for say Mar, then the last minute instructions were, ilaglag si Mar for Binay, there is the possibility that that voter could have forgotten. He marked one, then tried to erase and marked the other. That may result in overvotes which count as null votes.
Five percent error, in a new exercise? That may be plausible. I don’t think nadaya si Mar. Nilaglag lang, like you revealed in an earlier post.
It is the cheating at the local level that I am more interested in, especially after the emails in the website linked by ken above, reveal that Puno was interested in some particular provinces.
#36 – tongue
Maybe we are talking of different things.
What I am trying to bring out here is the total number of voters who voted during the election. To determine just how many voters cast their votes, just as I said add all the totals of the votes for president plus all totals of blanks, null, void or spoiled and that will be it.
The thing here is one ballot per voter. Blanks, null, void and spoiled ballots are also counted in a separate column and cannot be credited to any candidate. Of course that will be the case, but still a voter cast his vote so even if his vote was not read or credited to anybody that will still form part of the total number of voters.
To take the case of one ballot per voter,my understanding is the total number of ballots in the ballot box whether its blank, null void, spoiled or good equals the total number of voters who cast their ballots.
The total of all these can not be over or under the total of voters against the total ballots cast or else something is wrong.
Lahat ng nandyan sa comelec mula pa nuong 2004 elections ay may mantsa ng anomalya ang mga pagkatao, maliban kay Ferdinand Rafanan na lantarang lumalaban sa katiwalian ng ahensya kahit na sino ang tamaan kung kaya ating maaalala na dahil sa kanyang lantarang pagbatikos noon ay inilagay sya sa freezer ni Abalos noon. Ating alalahanin, ang “hello garci scandal” isang bagong appoint na commisioner makagagawa ng ganitong grand scale na dayaan? sa tingin ba natin maitatago ito sa mga upisyal ng comelec lalong lalo na sa mga komisyon-ner? Kung hindi, sila ba ay nagbulag bulagan o nakipagsabwatan! alin man sa 2 nakasisiguro ba tayong libre nila itong ginawa? Paanong maitatago ang ganyan kalaking anomalya na ultimo taga punas ng lamesa ng comelec alam? Kaya nanggagalaite si Ferrer kina magdamo dahil hindi sya sanay na binabangga sya ng kanyang subordinate. Dahil umakyat na sa utak nya ang posisyon nya, kaya feeling nya napakalaki nyang tao, and he can do whatever he wanted to do with impunity.
Ating matatandaan na lahat ng mga naging desisyon sa ilalim ni Ferrer ay may matsa ng mga pagdududa, lalong lalo na itong kawalanghiyaan na ginawa nila sa Party list, binababoy na ng mga gahamang pulitiko ang party list, nagpapagamit naman ang comelec, samakatuwid magkasabwat sila, ipa aalala ko muli sa inyo ang party list na itinatag ni Richard Gomez kasama si Jewel Canson, MAMAMAYANG AYAW SA DROGA nadisqualify ito, kahit na nanalo sa eleksyon! sa dahilang hindi raw maituturing na marginalized sector ito. Pero suriin natin ngayon ang mga listahan ng party list, lagpas sa kalahati ang kaduda duda ang pagkakatatag, Migrante na tumutulong sa mga OFW ng napakatagal na panahon, disqualify? Magdalo disqualify ang dahilan? dahil nag aadvocate daw ng rebellion? suriin natin ang ipinaglalaban ng magdalo, para ba sa sarili nila ito o para sa bayan? eh ano itong Ang galing pinoy? para ba sa bayan ito? Atin sigurong tanungin ang mga provincial director na mga kaibigan ni Mikey.
Sa nakaraang halalan, we are at our infancy in automation, we should support wholeheartedly this process in order to succeed. Ang malusog na talakayan ng mga butas ng automation ay makabubuti sa pagpapatatag ng kasiguruhang magiging malinis ang ating susunod na automation. Ang bawat mamamayan ay may tungkuling pangalagaan ang bagong prosesong ito para sa bayan. Subalit, maging mapagmatyag din tayo at maging mapagsuri sa mga intensyon ng mga taong nagsasabing nagkadayaan sa eleksyon gamit ang makina ng automation, CF, PCOS, transmission, servers results manipulation. Tungkulin nating punahin sa konstraktibong pamamaraan ang mga pagkakamali ng nakaraang halalan, hindi upang pagsilbihan ang mga iilang talunan na ginagamit ang isyu for grandstanding. Naniniwala ako sa tagumpay ng nakaraang automation bagamat hindi naging perpekto ang proseso, ang mga butas na ating nakita ay dapat na magsilbing gabay para sa mga susunod na halalan. Tumingin na tayo sa hinaharap at ating lingunin na lang ang nakaraan subalit wag na nating balik balikan, kasi hindi tayo maka-usad. Dapat pinaghahandaan na nating salubungin ang bagong mga lider ng bansa. Ang problema hindi pa nga nakaka upo kinakagat na kaagad ng mga anay ng lipunan tsk tsk tsk tsk
dapat sunugin ng buhay ang mga katulad ni Nicodemo Ferrer at mga tiwaling politiko nang huwag pamarisan.
Ang manual voting ay gold standard ng voting process kumpara sa automated voting ayon sa experts at sa mga experiences nila sa Amerika. Bakit? dahil mas madaling mandaya sa automation kesa manual.
Tungkol diyan sa digital signatures ano ang napakitang digital signatures ng Smartmatic machine noong nagkaroon sila ng demo kahapon o kamakalawa? WALA!
So, kahit sino ay pedeng mag transmit ng resulta. Hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin pinaalam ng COMELEC kung saan saang lugar nanggaling ang basehan nila ng transmission para ma check ng mga tunay na opposition yong pinanggalingan noong transmission.
Sandali nating aklimutan muna ang mga kawalanghiyaan nina gloria, subalit isali din natin sila bilang bahagi ng ating pagsasaya. Ang bagay na jokes sa kanila?
Dapat katulad nito:
DOM #1: Alam mo, pare, lima ang tsiks ko ngayon!
DOM #2: Magaganda ba sila?
DOM #1: Magaganda, pare! Sexy! Bababoooom! At magkakamukha silang lahat!
DOM #2: Magkakamukha? Bakit ganu’n?
DOM #1: LAHAT SILA MUKHANG PERA! …….
O, de vaaah?
Garapalan na talaga ang pandadaya kahit saang angulo mo tingnan ay kinakailangang ideklara to ng failure of election. – xman
That was the original plan & possibly the last option of Evil GMA to declare failure of election, unfortunately truth & God prevailed over this evil sinister’s hidden plan of GMA, Ferrer, Puno and even AFP thru Bangit. Look what these people (GMA cohorts) are doing now, they’re crying for a failure of election thru their massive assaults of complaints.
Thanks God, truth prevailed over this diabolic & rampant evil coercions.
RE: DOM #1: LAHAT SILA MUKHANG PERA! …….
O, de vaaah?
Duktungan ko Igan MPR…tutal kasiyahan muna tayo para makalimot saglit lang ha ng inis-talo sa hello garci regime na ito.
DOM #2: Sinong lahat sila…?
DOM #1: Alam mo na yon…YON NA!
DOM #2: Ah ganoon…ang PERA e may tao, but ang Noypi walang PERA.
DOM #1: Hindi nga…di mo getz eh.
DOM #2: Alam ko na…di ko sasabihin, ano sirit na?
DOM #1: Ewan ko…bahala ka sa buhay mo!
RE: Tumingin na tayo sa hinaharap at ating lingunin na lang ang nakaraan subalit wag na nating balik balikan, kasi hindi tayo maka-usad. Dapat pinaghahandaan na nating salubungin ang bagong mga lider ng bansa. Ang problema hindi pa nga nakaka upo kinakagat na kaagad ng mga anay ng lipunan tsk tsk tsk tsk?
Well, may punto ka Igan Floriano615…but ang isyu dito e yaong legalidad ng malinis na halalan either manual or autoamted?
Di ba mayroong panuntunan na dapat sundin ang Comelecta and/or Smartinik and other concerned institutions na involved sa nakaraang halalang ito.
Ngayon, ang katanungang ng nakakaraming Noypi e ganito…nasunod ba yaong itinatadhana ng batas ukol sa automated hocus-PCOS na ito.
Mahirap kasing magsabi ng OK kung mayroon silang nilabag na batas upang maging valid at walang hocus-PCOS na nangyari.
Paano natin itatama ang baluktot na pangangatwiran na siyang naging bangungot ng lahat nang ilunsad nila ang EDSA DOS con Hello Garci not once, but twice?
At pagdidiinan nila na lehitimo at tama ang kanilang pinaggagawa…kahit na yang si Noynoy and yellow wannabees e malaki ang atraso nila sa Masang Pilipino.
Ngayon…akala mo ang titino e isa rin silang hudas at nanghudas sa ating Saligang Batas.
Nakakalimutan siguro nitong si Nicodemoneus Ferrer na “a public office is a public trust” kaya ganyan siya umasta at magsalita. Hindi siguro niya alam na ang pinapasuweldo sa kanya ay galing sa buwis ng taong bayan at wala siyang karapatang mag-asal siga habang nasa serbisyo publiko.
Asahan natin, sasala ang kamay ng mandurukot sa bulsa ng dinudukutan subalit magkakaisip at lalaki ang kanyang mga anak na asal hayup at mana sa magulang, kaya bantayan natin ngayon pa lang at ipagsalin salin sa mga susunod sa atin, HUWAG pagtitiwalaan at paniniwalaan ang sino mang magmumula sa angkan nitong si Nicodemonius Ferrer.
Isang legacy’ng maiiwan at minana ng mga katulad nitong kupal na si Ferrer mula sa putang’nang si gloria!
Just finished reading the emails from the ken’s link above.
Assuming its truth, it looks like there was indeed some cheating operations being planned, with advice from some NJ IT expert. The beneficiary was to have been Gibo. Considering how miserably Gibo fared, it would seem that the conman (Puno) was conned. The hacks he was advised to undertake did not work. Magkano kaya ang binayad?
Hindi kaya na-trojan sila? After Haraway gave the advice, he could have turned around and informed Smartmatic. Maybe that is why the hacks were blocked and did not work. Or maybe it could be plain ineptitude. The hacks were not so sophisticated (which a computer illiterate like Puno would not know), that it was easy to thwart.
@sax:
I thought that’s the reason why the US Ambassador visited Noynoy Aquino immediately after Election on May 14, to bring the message to this GMA government and her atrocities that it must be stopped, that enough is enough with her disservice to the Filipino people. US Government wants to emphasize that the Filipino had spoken already with a new mandate. I think US government knew this planned sinister of GMA cohorts.
And my guess is that the mole itself from GMA camp can testifies why there was intrusion on their plan.
Ah yes ken. I forgot about the mole Puno talked about.
Considering Puno’s history for double-dealing, I wouldn’t put it beyond him to cut his losses and dump the Glue to ingratiate himself to the Feds.
Puno himself could be the mole/trojan. That is why he went to the US, to rejuvenate kuno, and attend to his daughter’s wedding. He was cutting a deal with the Feds.
Siguro naman maniniwala kayong ‘yang si Puno ay masahol pa sa isang sawa na dilang sanga-sanga.
Kaya nga sanay siya’t bihasa sa multiple dealing, eh.
Panay kabig, walang talo!
sax, re: #39
My purpose for posting the 2.6M discrepancy is not about Mar. I have given up on his chances after a chat with his campaign head. What I was demonstrating that the fact that 5% is NOT ACCEPTABLE deviation in any computer system. It’s about the technical aspect.
The specifications requisitioned by Comelec, and the specifications in Smartmatic’s proposal is explicit. 99.995% accuracy or a tolerance of plus-minus .005% is the only error acceptable. Meaning, for every 100,000 votes, only 5 errors can be allowed.
That’s why we paid a hefty sum of P7.2B for the whole thing. As a businessman, I am bound to deliver to the client whatever is specified in my quotation. Whether I lose money in the end is immaterial. We are always tied to our commitments. Likewise as a buyer, I see to it that my supplier delivers only items that fall within the agreed specs.
Smartmatic’s partner, TIM has a pending case with GSIS over another failed P1-B computerization deal completely different from the election automation. TIM has a captured market in the banking sector ATM systems and is acknowledged as the go-to guys in bank computerization, but in this case, they failed to consider the huge data that the GSIS will process such that the software designed by their principals, IBM, was insufficient and failed upon deployment.
Comelec knew this TIM problem beforehand, and I’m positive they are aware, too, of the consequences of any failure in delivery in their own AES.
What I am not comfortable with is the cavalier defense by Comelec of its supplier, likewise the 180 degree turnaround by Locsin who now sales-pitches for Smartmatic for 2013, and some journalists too.
Looking forward, we’ve had this experience with Smartmatic, we should try another supplier in 2013 which is not as critical as 2010’s. It is true that computerization is the only way to go. But not with a supplier that specifies one thing and delivers another.
Tongue:
My belief is that the error is user-generated, not computer generated. The ballots were incorrectly marked by the voter, which produced the error. Erap himself had the position blank.
I agree with the need to go for another supplier.
@Sax:
But if there is indeed a CIA (a mole) within GMA camp why is it that, for the past 6 years of our tumultuous government & bureaucracy, the US government still continued to support GMA viz her unconstitutional and un-lawful means? I think the basic answer there is bec. of VP Noli de Castro and indeed the dis-approval of a military junta. Indeed lady luck transgress to Evil Bitch Gloria as what said by her former economic adviser.
And now that the Filipino people had spoken already, I think the US Government will not allow these people, like Ferrer & Puno, to repeat again the 2004 election cheating, and this mole had transpired against them? I think so.
BTW, There was a BIG revelation earlier in the canvass wherein Comelec’s controversial Exec. Dir. Tolentino was placed in a hotseat for issuing a last-minute (May 10) memo authorizing DOST’s regional offices to undertake the burning of data/program CF Cards should any CF Card fail during voting. What makes it controversial?
First, it wasn’t issued by the Commission en banc. The memo effected the distribution of some 1,600 blank CF Cards which were to be used for “emergency purposes”.
Second, DOST was never authorized in the election law to even touch the CF Cards. He can not even answer if DOST’s FTP servers were secure, heck, he didn’t even know what FTP means.
Third, as read verbatim by Cong. Dilangalen, a congratulatory letter by DOST’s Reg. Dir. in Cagayan De Oro thanks his subordinates for working as late as the next morning of the election day “reconfiguring the CF Cards”. If this were true, all the voters have already voted (and fed their ballots to the machines) BEFORE the “defective” CF Card which read, counted, and tallied the votes were re-configured. Since the voting ended at 7PM of May 10, what votes did the reconfigured cards report?
Fourth, a confirmation by PPCRV’s Tita DE Villa and later, Cam. Norte’s Liway Chato that they were never informed and never witnessed any of the “reconfiguration” undertaken by DOST for replacing the defective CF Cards as per Tolentino’s Memo.
Fifth, which to me was the most shocking, is the revelation by Sen. Pimentel that Tolentino’s wife is WORKING WITH Smartmatic in Cabuyao. This, Tolentino did not deny and even told the committee that his wife works in Comelec’s IT Division and was first assigned during the printing of the ballots in NPO. He later admitted that his wife is in Smartmatic’s Cabuyao warehouse, doing “inventory”.
The Committee seems to be closing in on Tolentino, earlier revealed as the brains behind the design of specifications and also in the very expensive Ballot Secrecy Folder. It seems that too much power was in his hands, and his wife’s too, remember that they removed the security features in the printing of ballots when all the while, Tolentino’s wife was in NPO supervising it.
Natodas ang link na ito. http://cheatinginc.host-ed.net/ Nabasa ko ang mga e-mails. Parang totoo dahil ang *sequence of events* ay tunay na nangyari bago election.
Natodas ang link na ito.
http://cheatinginc.host-ed.net/
Nabasa ko ang mga e-mails. Parang totoo dahil ang *sequence of events* ay tunay na nangyari bago election.
“My belief is that the error is user-generated, not computer generated.” – sax
We can only speculate. Why then would the Comelec not reveal the results of the manual audit? Because the actual results went way beyond the 5 errors per 100,000 tolerable limit. Suffice it to say, the commissioner in charge said it was “small”.
But even if so, 5 out of 100,000 IS small and Smartmatic should deliver accordingly.
My own speculation is that the machines did not count the votes even if the ellipses were substantially filled with the supplied pen which in the manual audit may appear to be a valid vote while in the machine appears to be null.
A forensic technical audit can help improve the accuracy of reading the ballots. It all depends really on the program that identifies which rectangular area belongs to which candidate.
For example: Given that the left topmost corner of the edge-of-paper barcode in the ballot as origin (0,0) – in rectangular x,y coordinates – the rectangle defined by the program as belonging to Erap, for example, may be (250, 80) in pixels, for the first corner and (280,100) for the opposite corner, hence a rectangle.
If the requirement was 75% fill in order to be read, a smaller rectangle within this very rectangle would have improved the percentage fill. Lesser null votes would have been encountered and the results for the manual audit vis-a-vis the automated count would be the same.
The undershading is possible. But a faint-handed old voter would be consistent in undershading all positions.
There is still the inexplicability of more undershadings (2.5 times more) for VP than for president.
Kung nagkalaglagan, that may explain it. Noy boys not shading Mar’s, and Erap boys not shading Binay’s. That would produce an abstention (null vote for failure to shade).
A confused, or undecided voter may have chosen one, then changed his mind, and shaded another. That would produce an overvote (null for shading more than one candidate).
The percentage for the president is not too different from the three percentage of total over and undervotes in Florida, produced by the hanging, dangling and dimpled chads in 2001.
If pure machine error produced the percentage of null votes for the president, the null votes for the VP should not be that different. So I can only attribute the disparity to human error, or human intent (nagkalaglagan nga).
TT: “What I am not comfortable with is the cavalier defense by Comelec of its supplier, likewise the 180 degree turnaround by Locsin who now sales-pitches for Smartmatic for 2013, and some journalists too.”
I could see that Locsin’s smiles these days are those of a very very happy guy, and i am guessing that is because of Smart.. ..
Mag galit galitan ka lang, kuha na ng supplier ang ibig mong sabihin. Style yan sa Pinas.
#66 martina,
“I could see that Locsin’s smiles these days are those of a very very happy guy……”
I could feel too that he has a million reasons to smile and be the happiest guy these days.
Very effective yong “mura” niya sa mga taga Smart, yon na yon na pala and Smart is so smart to get the message.
Depende naman ‘yan sa “mumurahin”.
Si gloria nga halos ipaligo na ‘yung “mura” natin, wala lang. Kapaaaaaaaaallll kasi ng mukha!
Magulo ang papel nitong si Locsin. PDP-Laban siya pero tinira pa niya yung kapartido niya sa PDP-Laban na si Binay pabor kay Mar. Nung tinitira si Binay dahil naglagay daw para makapandaya, pinagtatanggol niya naman. Dina-drama lang ba niya tayo?
Nung umamin sa kapalpakan ang Smartmatic pinagmumura niya. Ngayong may mga video sa YouTube na niyari ang asawa niya sa utos ng Comelec (ayon sa video ni Dayaan2010 sa YouTube) Comelec naman ngayon ang gigisahin niya sa komite. At ngayon pa lang ay nangangamoy na na aabsuweltuhin niya ang Smartmatic.
Kulang na lang pagmumurahin niya si Erap paro sino ang abugado ng asawa niya, si Atty. George Garcia na abugado ni Erap, si Erap pa yata ang nagbabayad.
Ipokrito na, oportunista pa. Ilang milyong dahilan kaya kung bakit minamadali na niyang tapusin ang imbestigasyon sa Smartmatic?
Noon sabi niya sa Smartmatic son of bitches pero ngayon parang anghel na ang turing. Maybe the color of money makes lot of difference (Teddy Boy Locsin’s 360 degrees turn).
Ilang milyong dahilan kaya kung bakit minamadali na niyang tapusin ang imbestigasyon sa Smartmatic?
You know Tongue, I wouldn’t be surprised if bank transfer amounting to Ilang milyong dahilan took place!
The Locsin tirade is a standard operating procedure for many members of Congress. They threaten to use the floor to blackmail the supplier. How do they know about it? Some local agent is a friend and feeds the member of the house with tips and the agreement is for representative to denounce the said supplier on the floor until the said supplier comes up with some cash proposal. And then what do you know… when the transaction is done, the whole thing stops!
Many members of Congress are corrupt to the bone. And I’m sure this Locsin knows his way around.
Ilang milyong dahilan?
‘Andami nu’n ah?
Baka naman ilang milyong putangina lang.
Kunsabagay, kaya ng Smartmaatik ‘yan dahil ilang bilyong dahilan din naman ang kotrata nila sa Commolect, di ba?
Kelan ba naging magalang at (somehow) credible ang COMELEC under Chairman Melo??? Kahit nga ang mga salitang effectiveness at efficiency sa mga proseso nila e absent din.
Lalo na yang si Ferrer – akala mo kung sinong anak ng diyos kung makasalita at makapanghamak sa ibang tao. Kung makatira sa Ang Ladlad e akala mo kung sinong nagsulat ng Bibliya.
Asar talaga ako sa pagmumukha ng mokong na yan. Tumanda ng paurong. Walang ni buto ng humility sa katawan. Pwe.