by Chris Mannix
Inside Boxing
Freddie Roach is not one of them. It’s true, Pacquiao’s astute trainer has had to be accommodating toward his No. 1 fighter. He’s had to rush to the Philippines just to track down his star pupil and has had to be tolerant of the human barnacles that attach themselves to Pacquiao and sponge his time, energy and, of course, money.
But Roach is keenly aware that one of his responsibilities as Pacquiao’s boxing guide is to say no. No to the late-night karaoke sessions that sap Pacquiao’s energy during training camp. No to the idea that the bulk of camp should be held in the Philippines, where Pacquiao is part Springsteen, part Obama and more popular than both. No to a fight with junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman, because a 5-foot-11, 154-pound opponent is just a little too large for comfort.
But Roach’s most important rejection is the one he has yet to give. No, Roach will soon say to Pacquiao. No, you should fight no more.
It seems ludicrous to even suggest that the clock on Pacquiao’s career might be ticking toward termination. It was just four months ago that Pacquiao, 31, was in the ring brutalizing an overwhelmed Miguel Cotto. Before that it was a second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton, a fight that ended after Pacquiao scrambled Hatton’s brains with a concussive left hand. For the past two years the Boxing Writers Association of America has named Pacquiao its Fighter of the Year, and other prestigious publications have followed suit. Why shouldn’t Pacquiao continue for a long time?
Roach’s response: You retire, Eddie.
It’s a challenge persuading a fighter to retire. When Roach told Bernard Hopkins to walk away, Hopkins sniffed that Roach had just lost his paycheck. A similar conversation with James Toney ended with a snarling Toney telling Roach to “go f— himself.” Last month Roach had the conversation with Gerry Penalosa, a lightning bug former champion who lost his second consecutive fight. For the moment Penalosa, 37, is heeding Roach’s advice, but it would surprise no one — Roach included — if Penalosa makes a comeback sometime in the future.
“It’s a hard thing when a coach tells you to quit,” Roach said.
His talk with Pacquiao won’t happen after Saturday night, when the Filipino defends his WBO welterweight title against Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium (9 p.m. ET, HBO PPV). Now is not the time. Clottey is not the fight with which you end your career. Both Roach and Pacquiao profess the utmost respect for Clottey, but neither wears any semblance of concern on his face.
“It’s a tough fight, but I don’t think it’s a tougher fight than Cotto,” Roach said. “I think Cotto is a more versatile fighter and has more tools. This guy does the same thing over and over again. He’s not too versatile.
“I don’t think this fight will take [Pacquiao] to a higher level because we all know [Clottey] is a good fighter but the general public doesn’t know Clottey,” Roach continued. “They know he lost to Cotto so they view him in a different light. People will say Manny is supposed to beat him. That’s always going to happen in sports.”
Roach knows there is only one fight out there that will elevate Pacquiao to a new level: Floyd Mayweather. Despite all the jawing, and even with both promoters exchanging heated words, Roach keeps Mayweather on the brain. He talks about how Pacquiao goes into “Mayweather mode” during training camp, where he breaks off his preparation for Clottey and shows Roach just how he would muscle through Mayweather’s impregnable defense. He claims Mayweather is the one person in the world Manny Pacquiao just doesn’t like. He pokes and prods at Mayweather’s planet-sized ego, crediting Mayweather for achieving greatness at 130 and 135 pounds but calling him average at 147.
“I won’t say it’s an easy fight for Manny,” Roach said. “But I think we can make it look easy.”
He wants that fight for Pacquiao. For the challenge. For the prestige.
And then he wants him to retire.
“This fight and Mayweather and be done with it,” Roach said. “There are no more challenges out there. I know there are some fights, but will the general public really want to buy that? I’d like to see him go out on top and not be one of those cases that stayed too long. Manny has things to fall back on that others don’t. He’s an actor, a singer, he’s running for Congress. Why is Roy Jones still fighting? Because he doesn’t know nothing else but boxing. Manny does.”
These are the points Roach will lay out when the time comes. He knows it won’t be an easy conversation, not with Pacquiao’s leeches hardly eager for the gravy train to stop running. But he hopes Pacquiao will listen because he, like always, only has his best interests at heart.
“People ask me, ‘Why would you want the guy you make the most money off to quit?’ ” Roach said. “We’ve done well with each other. I’d rather see him quit than go on after Mayweather. It’s more important to me that he has a long and healthy life when this thing is over.”
I agree, quit while still on top. Funny but it has to come from his American trainer. I doubt if any of those leeches now surrounding Manny will advice him to quit like what Roach is doing. Eh naku po, pagnag-retire na si Manny eh di wala na silang mahuhuthot. Sad, but true. Congrats Manny for your win against Clottey. By the way, I hope that Manny would quit politics altogether when he looses “again” against the Chiongbians. Baka ma-knock-out ulit. 😛
But if he wins, I hope he becomes a good congressman and not follow in the foot-steps of his new patron, Villaroyo. Baka mag-isip na tumakbong prisidinti. 😛
In local politics, dehado si Manny pero if he runs for a national post, malamang sa hindi eh mananalo yan. Wawa naman tayo. 🙁
According to CompuBox, Manny Pacquiao landed 246 of 1,231 punches; Clottey connected on just 108 of 399. The challenger from Ghana was so lackluster, even Jinkee Pacquiao landed more punches on Manny when they last fought over Krista.
http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/lopsided/#comment-13805
Aangal na naman siguro ang NHI dahil mali na naman ang ginawang pagkanta ni Bong Pineda, este Arnel Pineda sa pagkanta ng Pambansang Awit.
Mga taga NHI, wala na kayong magagawa. Tapos ng kantahin, eh. Mas maige pa, para wala nang lumabag sa tamang pag-awit ng Lupang Magiliw, este Bayang Hinirang, ipanukala ninyo sa susunod na pagbubukas ng House of Tong-its pagkatapos ng hangalan sa Mayo at maiboto ang mga kakawatanin ang taong bayan, gawing bitay ang kaparusahan kapag mali ang tono at tiyempo.
Teka, bakit noong babuyin ni goyang ang National Artist Award, wala kayong sey?
Di ba dapat pumalag din kayo noon?
Aminin n’yo na. Kunyari lang galit kayo kapag mali ang pag-awit ng Perlas ng Silangan dahil sa totoo lang nagpapansin kayo o humihingi kay Pakwan ng balato.
ugaling pinoy, lalo na pag nasa poder na, kung ma alala ninyo, pag nag biro ang dayuhan sa mga talk show nila, ang banat agad.” per sona non grata,” gaya ni alec baldwin na nag biro na maigi pa yata kumuha ng asawa sa pinas via mail bride, dumale si bong revilla, ung biro sa programa na gustong maka siguro na genuine ang kanyang diploma, at hindi galing sa pinas na gawa sa recto, dumali na naman ang papansin, sa totoo lang, talaga naman nakakabili ng diploma sa recto,, pero pag tayo mga pinoy ang bumanat sa mga biro sa dayuhan, wala naman uma angal, pinoy talaga, napa kahilig sa hometaown decission.. kung si manny pacquiao ay isnag dayuhan at hindi pinoy, tapos nag papanalo sa pilipinas..sigurado iimbistigahan iyan,, dahil sa inggit..only in the philippines..!!!
Sige Teddy Atienza tingnan natin iyong version. Paki-sample nga. Puro kayo reklamo. Manny should stay-out from politics. Mag-boksing na lang.
Re: Teddy Atienza, chief of the Heraldry Section of the NHI, was not pleased. A “24 Oras” report quoted him as saying that they would file a complaint against Pineda before the Department of Justice for his “wrong” version of the national anthem.
Manny has things to fall back on that others don’t. He’s an actor, a singer, he’s running for Congress. Why is Roy Jones still fighting? Because he doesn’t know nothing else but boxing. Manny does.”
Manny only good in Boxing…
Actor ?????
Singer duet witm Mama Dionisia ???????
Tongress ????
BOXING YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Matutulungan niya ang ibang tao na di na kailangan pumasok sa Politics. Ano ang gagawin niya doon katulad ni Lito Lapid. Kapag English at lumalabas sa session.
I love Manny but going to politics at sumusunod sa Sabit Singsong ay katarantaduhan.
I’ve seen someone with Parkinson’s disease…even the memory fails him. He is usually robbed of this and that. He is at best at the mercy of kind people!
bakit hindi na lang si Money Pack ang kumanta at sasayaw naman si Mami Dewnis sia? tapos na ang boksing..mano mano naman sa election lalo na sa Mindanao…mananalo ba sila kay Money Pack..hindi lang mani ang tatanim niya..pero kung ma tiaga ka, magaling at matalino pa uulan ng kuarta sa lugar mo..pira pira lang naman…exit Money the Boxer…now comes Money the Tongressman! another vote for Gloria’s run for Speaker of the House and eventually Prime Minister…ang galing at ma talino..pero palulusutin ba? madlang people kayo hurado…it is your showtime..
Roach said it all. Let’s hope Manny listens when the time comes.
maliwanag na LUTONG MACAU ang laban, Clottey entered the ring not to win but to collect $ million prize money ! same as fight with Oscar de la Hoya, marami talaga ang gullible na tao
MPRivera,
baliktarin kaya natin ang sitwaasyon sa analysis mo?
bakit ang NHI ang pinagdidiskatihan mo? bakit di mo tanungin yung mga artist kung bakit pilit nilang binabago ang tono gayong may mga nauna ng kaso ng ganyan? bakit pilit pa rin nilang inuulitulit? sadya bang matigas ang ulol ng mga pinoy artist? sadya bang ang pinoy mas gusto ang lumalabag sa batas? ganyan ba talaga ang ugali ng isang pinoy na makabayan? Further, Eto kaya ay pagpapatunay na ang pinoy e wala ng pag-asa pang tumino kaya ang gobyerno natin e puro kapalpakan?
hindi ako manganganta..pero ang pagkanta ng Nat. Anthem should be according to how it was written and arranged..at ang alam kong beat (as we used to sing it) ay two beats..marcha..bakit iniiba? does the singer not study the music piece? or kulang lang sa pansin?..or walang alam?
wala bang coach ang mga ito?
Here’s a discussion in Facebook started by Inday Varona’s shoutout:
“The first two notes of Arnel’s Lupang Hinirang had us betting he wouldn’t hit the high notes. He was fine with the first high notes, sang the anthem straight and pure, and then he had to do the runs… ayan, sablay”
Bumbum Tenorio:
Masyado kasing nagpipilit ang mga ito na ang Lupang Hinirang ay pag-aari lamang nila at ng mga interpretasyon nilang kinulot at kinula. Nakakunsumi na. Sa susunod, ako na ang kakanta nito. Uumpisahan ko muna sa mga sabungan. Haha.
Alan Rivera:
Why does everyone who sing the Anthem feel they have to ‘birit’ the end. Sing it simple pipol. Those three pretty Dallas cheerleaders did the right thing with their own Anthem. No birit. At may 2nd voice pa. An Anthem is not, should not be an excuse to make yabang. All those singers who make birit just tell us they’re not birit intelligent.
Commie Mizark Espina Varona:
Sa susunod si Manny na kakanta habang nag entrance papunta ng Ring.
Marlene Howe:
I love Arnel but I agree that he failed the last note. The original melody should remain as is otherwise the song is no longer that, national anthem. The song was not intended for commercial purpose so changing the song’s melody has become less of the national anthem that people know.
Pinagdaanan na natin ang topic na ito. You may disagree with the interpretation, but the US upholds the freedom of speech of singers or other entertainers. Note the various interpretations, including Jimi Hendrix’s wailing guitar rendition of the Star Spangled Banner.
A singer has to feel the music, whether a ballad or an anthem. And they sing it with that feeling. Of course, sabi ng iba, pasiklab lang daw. Seems to me it is the people who pedantically insist on the original version who are making pasiklab about their knowledge of the law, which if tested Constitutionally will fail (if the issue were presented to a fair tribunal), not a fawning one.
And yes maganda ang version ng Dallas Cheerleaders – maganda din sila, lalo yung sa gitna.
I am waiting for a group to sing our national anthem in four part harmony – a la Boyz II Men, or the doowop harmonies of the 50s.
Ipakulong daw, sabi ni Dahli Aspillera.
Oops, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Criminal law is territorial. So the crime should have been committed in the PI, for it to be punishable under Philippine law. Philippine law has no jurisdiction in foreign soil. Thank God.
Sa susunod, pakantahin niyo si Imelda Marcos. I’m sure nobody will disagree with the true, the good and the beautiful (albeit tuyot na).
mac.bh, galit ka ba sa akin?
He he he heeh.
Hindi ako makikipag-away sa iyo dahil mabilis tumaas ang high blood ko. Kaya cool lang ako kahti sasagutin kita ng mahaba kung gusto ko.
Alam mo, pare (o baka mare), dapat kilatisin mo ang uri o anyo ng pagkakasulat kung ‘yun ay may halong komedi o dramang may kahalong pang-asar.
Ako’y banas din sa mga songers natin na iniimbitahang awitin ang Lupang Magiliw, este Bayang Hinirang, eh. They think they are covered with immunity kapag binibirit nila ang Pambansang Awit of the Philippines at inaakala nilang nakakadagdag sa kanilang kasikatan kapag binago nila ang tono, tiyempo at pagsasabuhay ng awiting sumasagisag sa kagitingan ng ating mga ninuno at mga bayani.
akala ng mga songers ng ito ay napakaganda nilang huwaran sa ating mga batang mag-aaral na makakarinig ng mali nilang rendition ng Lupang Hinirang.
Hindi ba sila nagsipag-aral sa mababang paaralan? Ganyan ba inihubog sa kanilang isipan ang tamang pag-awit ng ating Pambansang Himig?
Huwag mong masyadong pagdiskitahan ang mga ordinaryong mamamayan sa kapalpakan ng gobyerno mong sinasabi na mula’t sapul ay puro panlilinlang at kamanhiran ng pakiramdam ang pinuhunan at hanggang ngayon ay pinapairal.
Kasalanan din ng NHI kung bakit ganyan din nabababoy ang Pambansang Awit. Kung gusto nilang kasuhan ang kusang pumalpak sa pagkanta ay kasuhan pati na rin si Pakwan dahil siya mismo ang pumipili ng gusto niyang aawit para bang eksklusibo niyang karapatan ang pagpili sa aawit nito.
Lumalabas tuloy na hindi ating Pambansang Awit ‘yan kundi ng Republica de La Tundan.
mac.bh, piang-uusapan lang ito, hane? Kung aawayin mo ang sino mang pagbubuntunan mo (huwag naman ako), pangungunahan na kita, hindi mo iyayaman ‘yun. Kung tatama ka naman sa lotto pagkatapos niyon, pahingi ng balato. Pambili ko ng tiket sa eroplano dahil gusto ko ng umuwi diyan sa Pilipinas. Tengkyu!
Yung mga mahilig sa orig, puwes kantahin niyo sa Kastila, dahil yun ang orig na lyrics ni Jose Palma. After that, ang lyrics ay naging Ingles.
Kakantahin din dapat in 2/4 time, not 4/4 (the current time signature), dahil yan ang orig time signature ni Julian Felipe.
Isa pa, wala dapat kumanta, dahil ang version lang ni Julian Felipe ay for performance by a pianist or brass band.
Basahin yan dito:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupang_Hinirang
All together now:
Next time, Manny Pacquiao, pakantahin mo ng Kastila version si Sergio Apostol; yung Mr Wetness.
Tingnan ko lang ang kanyang acento Castellano.
Pacquiao vs Chiongbian sa next fight
http://www.abante.com.ph/issue/mar1610/vismin01.htm
Isang piping patunay na si MaC-5 sa Taga ang lihim at ecret candidate ng Reina del Palacio de La Tundan.
Kaya, Gibo, kalas na! Huwag ka ng magpakatanga!
Atitiway Sax,
Matutuwa ang mga farmers kapag kumanta ng orig na Bayang Hinirang, este Lupang Magiliw si Mr. Wetness Apostol.
Matatapos kaagad ang El Nino dahil sa pagtatalsikan ng kanyang masaganang laway. Baka ng maihi pa ‘yun, eh.
Ha!ha! ha!
Enjoyako sa thread na ito.
Kahit anong pag kanta ng Lupang Hinirang kahit sabayan pa ng human beat box, pero por Diyos por Santo, huwag na huwag nyo po pakantahin ng duet si Ate Glo at FG, please lang. Parang sigurong lagareng bakal na kinakaskas sa alambre at elepanteng di makautot. 😛
ang gusto kung marinig ay ang duet ni Mami Dioni at ni Mr. Wetness…at uulan ng wetness..
Why not “invite” Roseann to sing our National Anthem and she’ll spit on the national flag. What now!?
If this happens, most Noypis will UNITE and cyberspace blogs will choke!
@christian: We have the same unique opinion about some of Pacquiao’s fights. You may find the article on my fan site interesting. Please visit “Destroying the Myths” fan site on facebook. You may also give your unique opinion and reply.
Hanggang ngayon pinagtatalunan pa rin ba ang form vs. substance ng Pambansang Awit?
Ang feeling ko pabayaan nila ang mga singers na i-express nila sa kanilang bersiyon, na naaayon sa hinihingi ng modernong panahon, sa isang damdaming pangkasalukuyan at hindi nung panahong inaapi tayo ng Kastila.
Iba ang spirit ng nasyunalismo ang hinihingi ng present times. Marahil kaya tayo hindi na makabayan ay dahil hindi na natin feel ang relevance ng laban nila Bonifacio at Rizal. Hindi kasi sila direktang nanalo. Yung una, pinatay pa ng sariling kababayan samantalang si Rizal ay itinumba ng kalaban ng walang kahirap-hirap.
Kung pababayaan nating humanap ng mas “relevant” na interpretasyon ng Pambansang Awit, siguro ay mag-eevolve ito ng isang bersiyon na katanggap-tanggap sa lahat, sumasakop hindi lang sa isang rebolusyonaryong konsepto, kundi isang bersiyong naaayon sa panahong moderno, nababagay sa isang national identity na patuloy na hinahanap, patungo sa isang tunay mas makabayang “spirit”.
Hindi natin makakamit ang tunay na progreso kung ang isang mahalagang bahagi ng ating identity ay lugmok sa pinaglipasan at makaluma na pilit idinidikta sa atin na panatilihing naaayon sa orihinal na komposisyong ang tunay na damdamin ay limot na at ang titik ay sa wikang banyaga.
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