by Ashzel Hachero
Malaya
Manny Villar, presidential candidate of the Nacionalista Party, and Manuel Roxas, vice presidential bet of the Liberal Party, have gotten the support of the Magdalo group which said it could deliver at least 250,000 votes.
The “price” of the support: He will not enter into an alliance with President Arroyo; and he will pursue the Magdalo advocacy on poverty alleviation, anti-corruption, peace in Mindanao, and reform and modernization of the Armed Forces.
A third condition, according to Acedillo, is for Villar to allow other detained Magdalo members to serve in government.
Asked to explain if the condition — “malayang makapagsilbi ulit sa gobyerno an gaming mga kasamahan sa pamumuno ng aming chairman a si Sen. (Antonio) Trillanes IV” — means they would seek amnesty for the detained Magdalo members, Acedillo noted the Magdalo members are still undergoing trial for coup and rebellion. He said they might move for amnesty in the next administration.
The group also endorsed senatorial candidates from different parties, including former fellow military officers Danilo Lim of LP and Ariel Querubin of NP, who are facing court martial for a plot to overthrow the Arroyo government in 2006.
Former Air Force 1st Lt. Ashley Acedillo, Magdalo national spokesman, said his group reached the decision after a nationwide consultation process with 400 national and local chapters which have at least 55,000 members.
Acedillo said Villar got 52 percent of the votes of the members and Aquino, or five more than Aquino.
Asked why the Magdalo chose Villar over Aquino, Acedillo said Villar has the competence, character and vision to lead the country.
“Consider this a personal bias, having come from the military. It goes without saying that there is a premium in leadership. The ability to lead the men under you, I think that played a big role,” he said.
Acedillo said the group’s endorsement of Villar and Roxas does not mean severing friendship with other candidates.
“Sina President Erap Estrada, Sen. Noynoy Aquino, Sen. Loren Legarda at Mayor Jojo Binay ay mga mabubuting tao at sila ay mga kaibigan ng Magdalo at mananatiling kaibigan sa kabila ng pag-endorsong ito,” Acedillo said.
The Magdalo late last year endorsed Sen. Francis Escudero, who later dropped out of the presidential race.
Acedillo dismissed reports that the Magdalo group was offered money by Villar in return for its endorsement.
“Sampal po sa amin yun kung may ganun at siguro naman kilala ninyo kami kahit nakakulong kami hindi kami tumanggap ng ganun. Gusto ko lang pong linawin na walang perang involved dito. Mayroon po tayong advocacy na pinaglalaban dito,” he said.
The Magdalo’s other senatorial candidates are Pia Cayetano (NP), Jinggoy Estrada (Pwersa ng Masang Pilipino), Susan “Toots” Ople (NP), Gilbert Remulla (NP), Adel Tamano (NP), Ruffy Biazon (LP), Tito Sotto (NPC), JV Bautista (PMP), Joey De Venecia (PMP) and Bongbong” Marcos (NP).
Villar expressed gratitude to the Magdalo whose endorsement, he said, showed his being a “genuine oppositionist.”
“At inaasahan natin ang paglaya ng ating mga sundalong nagnais at patuloy na nagtutulak ng pagbabago sa bansa,” he also added.
Lim, a former general, thanked the Magdalo.
As to the Magdalo’s choice of presidential bet, he said he respects the choice. Lim is running under the LP and is an adopted candidate of the PMP. – With JP Lopez and Czarina Rufino
It goes without saying that there is a premium in leadership. The ability to lead the men under you, I think that played a big role. — Acedillo
As voltaire said, “I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend your right to say it.”
And defend my right not to vote for Villar!
Man only realizes he made a wrong decision when that decision fell short of his expectations.
You may not agree with what I said and I shall respect your decision to believe what you think is right.
“premium in leadership” daw…tingnan at suriin ang mga inendorsong senators.
Re: #1 Anna
It goes without saying that there is a premium in leadership. The ability to lead the men under you, I think that played a big role. — Acedillo
As voltaire said, “I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend your right to say it.”
And defend my right not to vote for Villar!
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Same here! Ulitin ko ha, Anna.
“…And defend my right not to vote for Villar!”
“Asked why the Magdalo chose Villar over Aquino, Acedillo said Villar has the competence, character and vision to lead the country.”
Competence…yup yakang-yaka niya na gumawa pa ng maraming C5’s.
Character… yup yakang-yaka rin niya na tanggalan ng lupain na sinasaka ang Dumagats sa Norzagaray.
Vision……..yup, ipagpapatuloy lang niya ang hindi natuloy na vision ng putang si Gloria Arroyo.
Di bale Ashley, suportado ka pa rin namin sa Cebu. 🙂
Chi,
And just because I’ve exercised my right not to vote for Villar, means that my vote automatically goes to Noynoy … 🙂
Aquino and Roxas will have to work their bleeding asses to ensure that my ballot contains their names.
My Mom and Sis and brother and their familes and relative say they too need to be convinced too to vote for Aquino. My brother has 8 children four of whom are married and therefore their families are “entailed.”
“The “price” of the support: He will not enter into an alliance with President Arroyo.” -Magdalo
Hahaha! Never thought that Magdalo would fall for Villar’s words or “men’s usapan”. My gosh, if you don’t believe that Gloria is Villar’s bff and real manok, that’s your right, but maybe your instincts are completely buried with your military training.
What would you do if Villar won and just put your “price” behind?
Then Magno’s words (see above) will ring and ring and ring in their ears until they become deaf.
One thing we do know now — hindi minaliit ni Villar si Trillanes, Layug, and company (di gaya ng iba).
Does that mean, I will vote for Villar?
Heck, No! Ano ko, tanga na, masochist pa? Why will I vote for someone whose penchant for looting govt coffers is already so blatant — what more if he becomes president?
pano iyan di erap na rin kayo. baka naman si erap ang secret candidate ni arroyo.
Dapat sa Magdalo — tumahimik na lang sila. Why was it so necessary for them to declare their choice? They should have taken the higher ground: non-partisanship.
Would have been the ideal thing to do.
#8..Anna
Bwahahaha!!! Napatawa ako ng todo!
baka naman si erap ang secret candidate ni arroyo.
hahahahaha!
I just might vote for the guy who made mura to Comelec! At least the fella had the guts to make mura to the idiotic Comelec viva voce (Kandidato pa ba yan?)
Anna,
Ako rin hindi “tanga na, masochist pa” to “vote for someone whose penchant for looting govt coffers is already so blatant”.
We already suggested months ago that Magdalo should not endorse a presidential bet. Well, we can’t give them immunity, a president can.
Seriously, kahit si Noynoy ang manalo, I believe that all of them will be freed. My guess is that Noynoy is not an excellent negotiator, hindi pa kasi tunay na tradpol, while Villar is already a seasoned and ultimate transactional animal.
Chi,
My guess is that Noynoy is not an excellent negotiator, hindi pa kasi tunay na tradpol,
Sana nga — eh kailangan matuto siya kaagad because his second in command niya ang mag take over if he dilly dallies, at sabihin, “I’m the one in charge here!” (A la General Alexander Haig when Reagan was shot…)
Hahaha! Yan na nga, Anna, the reason why Noy-Mar ako. Baka hindi naman i-coup ni kuya si Noy. I believe that it’s better to elect a president and vice from the same party so there would be less chance of another Erap-Gloria sipaan blues.
grrr! now i’m beginning to hate Magdalo group..they should not be endorsing anyone..
The Magdalo’s other senatorial candidates are Pia Cayetano (NP), Jinggoy Estrada (Pwersa ng Masang Pilipino), Susan “Toots” Ople (NP), Gilbert Remulla (NP), Adel Tamano (NP), Ruffy Biazon (LP), Tito Sotto (NPC), JV Bautista (PMP), Joey De Venecia (PMP) and Bongbong” Marcos (NP).
Susme! Is this the best they could do? Dalawa lang ang iboboto ko dyan sa listahan.
Maugong ang balita kaugnay ng umano’y paglipat nina DILG Secretary Ronaldo Puno at LWUA Administrator Prospero Pichay Jr. kay Villar at nag-alsa balutan sa kampo ni ex-Defense Sec. Gilbert ‘Gibo’ Teodoro Jr. – (source: Abante)
Hmmmnn, balita pa ba ang ganito, e kay Villarroyo naman talaga kayo.
O ano chi, di naniwala ka na?
Nag-endorso na si Trillanes kay Noynoy, tapos biglang may press release dun sa kaso ni Villar na “this is not my fight; this is not the people’s fight”.
Si Lim, nung independent, itinabla ng Comelec kaya nagpalista uli pero LP na, tinanggap na ng Comelec.
The top leaders of Magdalo were clearly for Noynoy, what happened?
Payag na akong nakafocus na lang sila sa senators (Lim + Querubin) at sana di na lang magendorso ng presidente dahil hindi naman kailangan. They didn’t have to descend from their moral high ground just to endorse a president “without any favors” in return.
Never in my wildest dream did I ever think that the Magdalo will ever support Noynoy…was it not them who led the coup d etat against his mother? how many coup did they attempt? led by Hodasan…they will never support Noynoy..(kahit na seguro maging presidente si Noynoy)..mahihiya sila sa kalag
(multo) nila..ano kaya kung manalo si Noynoy will they support him? baka ngayon na natin makita ang pag revolution ng military against a president who they will not if not never salute as their Chief of Staff.. masaya ito and for this reason I will pray extra na manalo si Noynoy..magaattend ako ng “gawain” sa El Shaddai at ito ang prayer request ko kay Yahweh El Shaddai..
I used to like what the Magdalos did in Oakwood and have believed in what they are fighting for, but lately, I find them not to be taken seriously anymore. They are like a bunch of mercenaries ready to be on call….IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!!
Tongue, ayaw ko sila ngayon. Hindi talaga kailangan dahil kahit hindi sila maki-transaction sa mga presidentiables ay lalaya sila. Wala silang kasalanan, nag-alburuto lang sila.
Wala bang magagawa ang bagong presidente kung sakali at ma-convict sila sa court martial? Help nga dito, anyone please. Di ba dishonorable dismissal ang mangyayari sa kanila? Ito ba ang kanilang iniiwasan?
Heto pa, ang sabi ng Magdalo e maglabas daw evidence ang mga kritiks if there is or that Villar strikes a deal with Gloria. Susmaryosep, hindi yata nagbabasa ng konek-konek ang mga ito.
Sa dami ng balita na nasulat ni Banayo na pinatotohanan naman ng mga nakakakilala sa kanila ay mukhang walang alam sila. Aba e kahit kay Martin Marfil lang sila magbasa, nakakaaliw pa ang mga VILLARROYO kwento dun. At saka, mukhang hindi nila ginagamit ang kanilang sixth sense, hehehe.
Dyan sa kanilang senatorial listahan ay si Ellenville resident Ruffy Biazon lang ang positibong pasado sa akin, bukod dun sa alam mo na.
Isa pa, kaya si Noynoy ang iboboto ko ay gusto kong makauwi na si Ping, si Villar hate na hate sya.
Bad choice!
Nawala ang bilib ko sa Magdalo. Why would they support someone who is only pretending to be an oppositionist? For all we know, Villar is GMA’s candidate!
“For all we know, Villar is GMA’s candidate!” – Andres
Everyone already knows except for Cayetano, Tamano and Remulla! 😛
kung sakali at ma-convict sila sa court martial?
Chi
Depends on the weight of the military crime (according to Darling from where we sit)!
If found guilty, a military court could sentence officers being tried for a military crime as mutiny to up to 20 years of hard labour — dishonourable discharge from service is automatic but dismissal doesn’t mean they won’t serve sentence. Depends on the provisions in RP’s AW.
Traditionally, coup d’état and mutiny are both punishable by death under military law but I doubt officers would be put to death in Pinas even if they were found guilty.
(It’s actually quite rare now for the military to put to death those who are found gulity of the most serious military offences although in the UK, obscure as the law may seem, death penalty is still a valid punishment for the said crimes even if Constitutionally, death penalty no longer exists in the UK.)
Now to go to question: “Wala bang magagawa ang bagong presidente…”
Anything is possible. They could be pardoned.
It’s a presidential prerogative I supppose just as it is in other countries.
In the US, president will not do anything of the sort unless recommended highly by JCS. But in Pinas, anything goes. So, there’s a probablity that new prez will “bypass” military leadership and pardon the officers straight away (of course, in such a case, i expect military leadership to do necessary paper work in order not to lose too much face.)
If these young officers are found guilty of mutiny and likely to face long life in prison, new pres could also commute their sentence, eg., a slap on the wrist, teach cathechism or do other types of community work 🙂
Anyway, RP has a history of presidential pardon for officers who have committed serious military violations.
Look at Lt Victor Corpuz. OK, he was jailed a bit, then he made money, he transacted with FVR, was pardoned, promoted and now a diplomat under Gloria!
Look at Martir, you go AWOL, you get “pardoned” even without asking for it.
The key is to transact!
Naknampucha!
Magdalo erred in supporting Villar. Pera pera lang din pala sa mga Magdalo.
Tulad ng RAM noon na sikat at idolo ng mga tao, darating ang araw na masisira ang simbolo at paglalaban ng Magdalo kung patuloy sila mamumulitika tulad ng mga ibang grupo.
#27 Anna, that exactly what I’d to know. Thanks.
Villar might have given or inked with them an assurance of amnesty. What if Noynoy wins, are they really sure that Villar is it already? Korek talaga na hindi na lang sana sila nag-endorso ng presidente. Hmmnnn umaandar ang aking sixth sense. 🙂
Possible that Noynoy will just request them teach cathechism, hahahaha!
…what I’d like to know..
Aha, Chi… my 7th radar is going ping, ping… too! 🙂
Noynoy will just request them teach cathechism — Chi
Hahahahah! Or to do gardening in a nunnery? Hihihih!
My suspicion Chis is that minaliit sila ng kampo ni Aquino.
Poor Aquino, not being in charge, possibly didn’t know what was going on. Kaya I said, sige na Noynoy, take charge na, NOW na!
Naknampucha naman! Puwede bang maging presidente ang hindi marunng mag-take charge?
Chi not “Chis”
Bwahahahaha!!!
Naku, Anna. Kung malapit-lapit lang si Erapski e maliligayahan sa aking desisyon si Ka Balweg, hahaha!
. What if Noynoy wins, are they really sure that Villar is it already?
Chi, good question!
Baka mag vendetta iyang si Aquino sa kanila… ayayayay!
maliligayahan sa aking desisyon si Ka Balweg, hahaha!
Sigurado iyan. Baka i-blow out ni Balweg lahat ikaw and your entire voting tibe sa Pinas niyan with Champagne pa 🙂
You know what Chi, I’m not so inis with the Magdalos but I am so inis with Noynoy’s side for allowing this thing to happen whereby Villar got the Magdalos hostage.
Really inis! Inis, inis na inis ako.
Never mind.
Here’s what I think, Anna.
Either there’s something deeper than the reasons they press released or they have not fully studied the consequences of endorsing a bet.
I take significance of Tongue’s comment, “Nag-endorso na si Trillanes kay Noynoy, tapos biglang may press release dun sa kaso ni Villar na “this is not my fight; this is not the people’s fight”.
“You know what Chi, I’m not so inis with the Magdalos but I am so inis with Noynoy’s side for allowing this thing to happen whereby Villar got the Magdalos hostage.”
Yup, if only I can leave blank the president. But ako naman, as long as there’s a choice, I will make a choice especially if it’s about the country.
Ah, excellent point Tongue raised there, Chi!
Naknampucha!
If we are to examine the angle that Tongue raised, we can easily come to the conclusion na hindi nag transact si Aquino while Villar did?
Ayayayayay! What shit people weave.
Chi, tama ka! Trillanes should have refrained from endorsing anybody.
This is an excecrable tactical move. EXCECRABLE!
Chi, you know what? At the same time, and in the final analysis, I can’t blame Aquino for not “transacting!”
Or kulang o hindi nagustuhan ng Magdalo ang transaction. Whatever, my opinion is that they should have stayed clear of the presidential bets so they can sensibly talk with the declared winner later. Mas safe yan, wala pang transaction that compromises their “moral high ground”.
I understand where the Magdalo is coming from, buhay nila ang issue, pero sa paniniguro nila ng amnesty, they forgot that Villar is not yet the president or might not become one, hehehe!
I never was, have never been and am not a full-pledged Magdalo supporter nor of Trillanes.
In fact, I’m a johnny come lately in that I finally and openly, unequivocally supported one of their members only recently — I will stand by that support for reasons I’ve stated earlier.
I like what I see in and hear of James Layug. I honestly, really, dearly hope he wins. He deserves to win that seat in Congress, better than my good “friend” Edong Ermita.
Chi,
They should have stuck to the old military adage: Don’t fight the battle you can’t win!
Anyway, never mind. It’s done. Thing for them to do now is not to be drawn into this argument. They should now stay silent. Trillanes should remember that he once belonged to the Silent Service and there’s no better time than today to remain silent about who, why, what, when, how, etc. support Villar and not Aquino.
Just shut the fuck up is what they must do from hereon!
Never mind Chi and myself, we can blah our way to kingdom come — we are not in detention as political prisoners of Gloria nor are we gunning for an elective post. So leave the blah-ing to her and my likes. 🙂 🙂
Hahaha! Amen.
It is after all true: Everything and everyone in the Philippines can be bought!
“…but with conditions” – like this only an excuse, but i do not see any condition than the colour of money.
lumabas na ang tunay na color ng Magdalo..green as in money villar..money is powerful..it can buy your golf balls…money is powerful..it can promote your business..money is powerful and with out it you are nothing..WMCD talaga..what money can do! right?..ang sabi seguro ng mga Magdalo..integrity? ano yon? word of honor?what;s that? honesty? ano? di ko alam yon..we did not study it sa PMA? malungkot!
I did not see a color of money here. Nagbigay lang ng conditions ang Magdalo kay Noynoy at Villar ng kanilang panig na nabigyan ng commitment ni Villar pero walang katiyakan ang sagot ni Noynoy. Malamang ganyan ang nangyari.
I believe them when they said walang pera na involve sa usapan nila ni Villar, but of course dun pa rin ako sa opinyon ko na dapat nanahimik na lang sila.
So what if Magdalo preferred Villar. It only shows they got no brain at all. In the end, Noynoy will rule.
tsk, tsk, tsk!
The Magdalo late last year endorsed Sen. Francis Escudero, who later dropped out of the presidential race.
Chiz endorsed Noynoy… Mukha wala din pala silang tiwala kay Chiz…
one condition is not for Villar to be in alliance with gloria? how naive can they be..
..Noynoy will ask them to teach catechism? mabuti pa nga seguro para ma review nila ang ten commandments paka kasi nakalimutan nila..
..there is no color involved? let’s wait and see..sa galing at talino ni money vill wala siyang puhunan o pabalato? it remains to be seen..
..sino ang secret candidate ni gloria? hindi kaya si Noynoy?
..we can now celebrate at Magdalo tayo sa victory ni Money Villar! tayo na at Magdalo…
Puhunang laway na may kasamang sipag at tiyaga sa panunuhol kaya nagkamal si Money Villar ng bilyones. Umutang ng bilyones gamit na collateral ang mga lupain ng mga magsasaka sa Norzaragay na hindi sa kanya, tapos nag default. Utak ganid to the max, kasumpa-sumpa. Eto ang commentary ni Lito Banayo tungkol dito:
http://www.malaya.com.ph/02252010/edbanayo.html
the magdalo was betrayed by a sitting president gma, now do they really believe villaroyo will keep his promises? villaroyo will agree to their conditions now to get the magdalo support, but will surely betray them and break his promises like what gma did to them, the magdalo group was already fooled by gma, now they are allowing themselves to be fooled again by villaroyo
a good businessman is also a good negotiator… galing talga… pati mga magdalo, nauto ni villarroyo…
Magdalo for Villar, but with conditions.
Really or just a cop-out?
Do the Magdalo really believe that Villar is a sure win in this election?
Usually conditions in an agreement should be consummated before an event takes place and not after, but in the case of the Magdalo it appears that fulfillment of conditions will be done after, which is really unusual due to the uncertainty of the outcome of the election which was the basis in the first place.
A Villar’s win definitely is also a win for them, and a loss will render the conditions moot and academic, but their support was already given and wasted, so what will happen to their conditions; what will they get in return? Nothing. A condition is supposed to be given and to receive something in return or nothing and without losing anything.
As I see it the Magdalo conditions are just in there to divert criticism for their support of Villar’s candidacy, no more no less.
In other words, it’s a cop-out.
..”sino ang secret candidate ni gloria? hindi kaya si Noynoy?” – Rose
Baka nga naamoy ng mga Magdalo na si Noynoy ay may alliance kay Gloria kaya si Villar ang pinili nila.
Note that one of the Magdalo conditions- No alliance with Gloria, meaning ayaw nila ng kasangga ni Gloria.
ano ba tong magdalo? sigurista? kapit na ba sa patalim? sabagay.. hirap mamuhay sa loob ng kulungan… pero wala na ba silang choice? pambihirang endorsement yan… hirap talgang intindihin…
The “price” of the support: He will not enter into an alliance with President Arroyo
Tinotorture ba ang mga Magdalo sa kulungan? Nasira na ata lahat ng mga senses mga sundalong ‘to… nawala na ang pangamoy, pandinig at pandama…
“… but with conditions”
Noon bang nag announced sila ng endorsement for Chiz may conditions din? Malinaw talga na may bentahang naganap…
One thing we do know now — hindi minaliit ni Villar si Trillanes, Layug, and company (di gaya ng iba).
Sino po ba ang nagmamaliit sa mga Magdalo?
Si Ermita, di ba? nagmamaliit sa mga Magdalo
rose – February 25, 2010 2:49 am
Never in my wildest dream did I ever think that the Magdalo will ever support Noynoy…was it not them who led the coup d etat against his mother? how many coup did they attempt? led by Hodasan…they will never support Noynoy..(kahit na seguro maging presidente si Noynoy)..mahihiya sila sa kalag – rose
Si Gen Lim na nag Kudeta laban kay Cory, ngayon nasa LP. Si Col. Querubin, kasama din sa kudeta na nanghingi pa ng “sorry” kay Cory in public… tapos sila… mahihiya? ang babaw namang dahilan nyan…
GMA=Villar=Corruption
Magdalo was endorsing corruption by endorsing Villar, akala ko ba corruption ang nilabanan nila kay GMA.
RE: Magdalo was endorsing corruption by endorsing Villar, akala ko ba corruption ang nilabanan nila kay GMA?
Nasaan nga pala ang logic ng paninindigan ng Magdalo Igan Jpax…parang ang labo na kanilang stand.
Ano ang gusto nilang mangyari…maging sunod-sunuran ang Pinoy sa gusto nila, di ata pwede ito at kailangang manindigan tayo at never na padala sa kanilang baliw na katwiran.
in the Phil. it seems so easy to publicly say I am sorry and not mean it..(may kodakay pa!). How many times did Gloria say I am sorry? mabibilang ba ninyo? ang I am sorry sa Phil. is simply a dime a dozen? bukang bibig..may word of honor ba sa atin lalo na sa mga military? hindi ba may kasabihan “in poliics, promises, promises are made to be broken?” sino ba sa atin dito has still faith and trust sa military offiers lalo na sa mga PMAers? I wonder..mabuti pa nga seguro ang mga ROTC reserves. It seems to be the way it is..so I take this alliance with a grain of salt..
Bongbong has an axe to grind against the Jesuits. After they used his father in plundering our treasury, they abandoned him disgracefully.
RE: http://www.malaya.com.ph/02252010/edbanayo.html
Norzagaray: A character issue!
YES! Igan Kitamokitako…alam mo natisod ko ang subject na ito sa kalikutan ng aking imahinasyon na magsearch about C5’t Tiyaga scams?
Buti nailathala mo dito ang link coz’dapat mabasa at maunawan ng mga Kapinuyan ang true color ni C5’t Tiyaga.
Seriously, kahit si Noynoy ang manalo, I believe that all of them will be freed. My guess is that Noynoy is not
an excellent negotiator, hindi pa kasi tunay na tradpol, while Villar is already a seasoned and ultimate
transactional animal.-chi
ito na nga malamang ang dahilan… na mapapakawalan pa din ang Magdalo kapag nanalo si Noynoy khit si Villar ang
kanilang inendorso… at malamang mabubulok sila sa kulungan kapag si Villar ang nanalo pag si Noynoy ang kanilang inendorso.. sa madaling salita.. naniniguro lang…
Whether the Magdalo is wrong this time, the answer will have to wait.
In the meantime, these are all speculations.
RE: …in the Phil. it seems so easy to publicly say I am sorry and not mean it..(may kodakay pa!).
Gasgas na word, “I am SORRY!”…Korek walang kwentang salita Igan Rose kaya ang Pinas e di umunlad at kanya-kanya ang Pinoy ng diskarte sa buhay…matira-matibay?
Kung kailan nagkaroon ng edukasyon ang maraming Pinoy e lalong naghirap ang Pinas at walang direksyon ang pamumuhay ng Kapinuyan.
Naging sakim ang marami at wala “PAKI”sa kanilang kapwa kahit na buhay ang kapalit basta magsiyam sila at makuha ang gusto nilang kapritsuhan sa buhay.
Ang tunay na realidad…tanggapin man o hindi ng mga pipiyok na Pinoy, row 4 ang level ng pagkatao, ugali-asal at walang takot kay Bro.
Kaya heto’t kandakuba ang Pinoy sa hirap at dusa…ng dahil sa mga lingkod-bulsa na peste at pahirap sa bayan.
rose – February 25, 2010 12:11 pm
in the Phil. it seems so easy to publicly say I am sorry and not mean it..(may kodakay pa!). How many times did Gloria say I am sorry? mabibilang ba ninyo? ang I am sorry sa Phil. is simply a dime a dozen? bukang bibig..may word of honor ba sa atin lalo na sa mga military? – rose
Huwag naman nating ilahat. Depende yan kung kaninong bibig lumalabas… hindi pala sincere si Col. Querubin para sayo rose, tama ba?
RE: …sa madaling salita.. naniniguro lang…?
Opppsss…ibig sabihin Igan Perl na sigurista na din ang prinsipyo ng Magdalo? Tama ka…nasaan na yaong prinsipyo na kanilang ipinaglalaban na kailangan ng tunay na pagbabago?
Anong pagbabago ang aasahan natin sa Yellow army at C5’t Tiyaga…bistado na ang kanilang hasang, di ba sila ang isa sa naghudas noong EDSA DOS.
Ngayon e sila muli ang bumabandera upang tuluyan na talaga tayong mga Pinoy na ibang sa burak ng paghihirap sa buhay at kalooban.
Ito ba ang gustong mangyari ng Magdalo…na kesyo nag-alsa balutan sila dahil sa di nila masikmura ang Pidalista regime, ngayon…makikipag-alyansa naman sa mga kicked out from EK, ANO YAN?
Onli in d’Pinas!
SumpPit – February 25, 2010 12:20 pm
Whether the Magdalo is wrong this time, the answer will have to wait.
In the meantime, these are all speculations.
until when we/they should wait? after election? kapag huli na lahat?
kung sabagay, mababawi pa ba nila to? Kung mali man.. maitatama pa ba to?
Akala ko matapang ang mga Magdalo…
Bakit gusto nila sa isang DUWAG?
Let me post here a prediction of one of our barkadas. I just omitted his name dahil baka daw siya’y kuyugin ng mga gustong magpahula:
Ang aking predikyon sa darating na hangalan 2010. Ito yun.
Una, mas gusto ko si Gordon kaso nga laang, hindi umaangat pero umaasa katulad din ng kanyang pampangkin na si JC.
Noynoy is it! Sa palagay ko, si Noynoy ang mananalo kahit maraming pintas. Ilan sa nakausap ko, parang walang arrive si Noynoy bilang presidente. Malamya. Ang perception, dahil given naman na kulang pa sa executive skills at management experience, kayang kayang rendahan ng mga naka paligid sa kanya lalo ng mga Yellow people. Mas OK pa nga raw si Roxas. Problema lang ni Roxas, sa kalakaran ng pulitika sa atin, hindi mananalo like Gordon.
Ayaw ko kay Villar kahit ibigay ko na lang sa kanya ang mansion na umiikot ngayon sa internet. Sa true lang, hindi ko tinitingnan ang ibang issue kay Villar, ang hindi maganda sa kanya ay ang pagtatapon nya ng pera sa kanyang kandidatura na actually he’s buying the presidency. In a country na nakasubasub sa lusak ng paghihirap, isang malaking iskandalo ang gumastos ng bilyones para sa isang pwesto na hindi ka sasahod ng isang milyon isang taon. Kaya nga ang nakatatak sa isipan ko at marahil ng iba na rin, dahil isa syang magaling na negosyante, hindi sya magaatubili na bawiin yun. Ano, palulugi?
Si Erap, outlet na lang nya ang pagtakbo dahil nasaktan sya noong pagka-sipa bilang presidente. Sa atin, once a politician is always a politician. Basta naging pulitiko ka, basta may pagkakataong lumaban, sasabak. Lalo pa si Erap na matagal na nanungkulan. But Noynoy will be kind to him and of course, to Binay. One year after the election, bibigyan yan ng pwesto. Kung ako si Noynoy, ibigay ko kay Erap ang DND at si Binay ang DILG.
Si Gibo, kawawa namang at talagang bigo at hindi pa man, giba na agad dahil ang nakikita sa kanya ay larawan ni glorya na walang glory. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100225-255222/Arroyo-backing-fatalPulse-Asia
Ang kanyang TV ad bilang isang piloto at niyaya ang mga tao na lumipad sila sakay sa eroplano tungo sa isang pagbabago. hindi maintindihan ng masa. Pang elite kasi. Eh 20% lang ang nakakasakay sa eroplano, karamihan ay bus, jeep, tricycle, trisikad, skits, bangka at yung alaws, kadilakad. Napansin na rin ito ni Pechay na once upon a time, pinulot sa kangkungan. Paki-pindot lang: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100225-255233/Teodoros-low-ratings-due-to-his-messages-disconnect-to-poor
Another reason kung bakit bigo talagang umangat si Gibo: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/02/25/10/arroyo-curse-gibo-race-presidency
Mga kasama,
Paniniwala ‘yun ngayon ng Magdalo which I believe ay hindi collective decision nila. Meron ding hindi kumporme, alam ko.
Malayo pa naman ang eleksiyon, maaari pang magbago ang kanilang pasiya, ‘yan ang paniniwala ko.
Ano’ng ginagawa natin? Tayong matamang nakasubaybay sa mga kaganapan at bawat kilos ng mga kandidatong ‘yan? Maaari natin silang paalalahanan dahil tayo rin ay mas apektado kung papapalpak ang kanilang choice of presidential candidate.
Highly principled and well respected in uniformed guys,stomped thier principles and dignities to the ground for what?money and freedom,etc, etc??hehehe sayang na sayang lamang ang simpatiya ng bayan sa inyo.Si money o si dilaw ang manalo ay military tribunal still will rule on the case.SEVEN plus another six of waiting again,ang tagal ano.Your families could start tie a yellow ribbon on every corner of the land,freedom are still far ahead.If these guys zipped thier mouths and waited til after May election probably they will gained thier long time dreams.
We all have the freedom to vote but please do not dictate your favorites to change their minds! If they follow yours, what about mine.
Mga kasama, let us just respect kung sino man ang pinili ng Magdalo. Tutal, hindi naman nila sinasabing sundin din natin kung ano desisyon nila.
Desisyon nila ‘yun, atin ang atin. Ganu’n lang.
Huwag natin silang itulak sa pader.
ganun na ba ka desperate ang MAGDALO para lang makalaya at makabalik sa dati nila work ay kailangan nila ipagkanulo ang bayan sa isang MONEY VILLARROYO, na alam ng buong pilinas kung ano ang ginawa nya sa mga magsasaka at sa pag-divert ng road (C5) sa lugar nya. talagang PERA-PERA na lang ang nangyayari sa Pinas kaya nga pati nga holdaper at snatcher ay walang takot sa mga pinaggagagawa nila kasi lahat kayang bayaran ng PERA. WAWA pilinas lalo mababaon kapag si Villarroyo ang naging Presidente!!!
how come one of the billionaire presidential bet had to default in their business loans ( capitol bank ) and let central bank foreclosed it. What CB lost is also peoples money lost. Why not pay up when he claim he is super rich and not let the people carry this debt. If he truly loves the people , he should unburden them.
It goes without saying that magdalo is for sale and due to the fact that one of magdalo leader goes for affinity and not for cause they are fighting for. How it comes to support villar when in fact no less that the Senate President file an ethics case against Villar for graft & corruption, it just goes without saying that Magdalo group is now for sale.
Magdalo’s causes for freedom is no longer worth fighting for. They are now like a mercenary of AFP
For sure ang mga taga CB ay malaki ang napakinabang kay Villarroyo kasi hindi sila papayag na si villarroyo lang makikinabang dahil alam nila na illegal ang pagprocess ng loan nya sa CB, cigurado mayroon TONGPAT’S. Marami ang nasisilaw sa PERA kaya ang magdalo hindi mo na puwede pagkatiwalaan at hindi na ang bayan ang kanilang priority kundi kanilang mapapakinabang, nawala ang paggalang namin sa magdala kasi ibinenta na nila ang bayan kay villarroyo
I was one of the supporter of Madalo group before but now no more.
Magdalo’s motto is no longer united we stand, divided we fall… but rather “divided we stand, divided we fall”. Kanya-kanya na silang diskarti. I will never support for Money Villar and his money making senatorials line-up. Never…
Look at their line-up. A son of a dictator marcos, a leftist & a communist, an insane lady, and others are mga bayaran, mga balinbing at mga dating tuta ni GMA at patuloy pa ring mga dark-horse ni Evil GMA at ang iba pa ay mga mapagsamantala sa lipunan. Shame all on you mga nagkukunwaring nagmamahal sa bayan!
what Money can buy indeed…all one has to say is..I can not fight with an empty stomach..I can not vote with an empty stomach one can no do anything with an empty stomach and that is all so true in the Phil…kaya pala I noticed the last time I was home wich is less than a year ago..ang dami daming matataba sa Manila…at ang daming kainan..ang daming pagdaluhan..
corr: one can not do anything..
..sorry folks..I can not do much in this snow and rain…
There are conditions to the Magdalo’s support. Samakatuwid, mayroon usapang naganap, at palitan ng pagbibigay. I give my support, you give, whatever.
Problema, walang palabra de honor si Money. Di ba’t sinaksak niya sa likod si Erap? There is honor even among thieves; the Mafia (most of them) do not rat on each other. Pero iba ang magnanakaw na Pinoy.
Hindi na nadala ang Magdalo. Hindi ba’t inonse din sila Trillanes?
Ang usapang lalaki ay nadadaig ng bigayang malaki.
as much as i like noynoy the person, let’s face it, he does not demonstrate enough leadership yet to make me ride on his bandwagon.
si villar naman, parang kara-krus ang laro mo dito… mahirap basahin ang nasa utak niya in my own opinion. but, i’ll take magdalo’s word on it for now…
pag alanganin na ako sa kanilang dalawa, dun nalang ako kay it’s-okay-to-be-baduy erap.
Wag po kayong mawawalan ng tiwala sa Magdalo. Kung sila man ay may bitbit na basura ngayon, yun ay para itapon at hindi itago. Ang duda ko nga kaya nila inindorso para hindi iboto eh.
Danilo Lim of LP and Ariel Querubin of NP, who are facing court martial for a plot to overthrow the Aquino government in 2006.
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I am sure, Ashzel meant Arroyo.
Anyways, Magdalo group didn’t have to make that endorsement for presidency and VP. They have downgraded themselves in my opinion. Lalo na meron pang “let’s make a deal…” Principle is lost when you make a deal. It may be necessary in out political system, but these “deals” are the reasons why we are in this ridiculous predicament in the first place.
Our vote is still with Noy and Mar.
As for the senate candidates, I have mixed choice, and would want to have your opinion on it, so as I could be better informed when I make my decision….May I have my list posted here, and get your opinion?
Thanks very much.
The group also endorsed senatorial candidates from different parties, including former fellow military officers Danilo Lim of LP and Ariel Querubin of NP, who are facing court martial for a plot to overthrow the Aquino government in 2006.
Linawin natin ito.
Dapat ito ay “who are facing court martial for a plot to overthrow the ARROYO government in 2006.”
Baka kasi manganak ‘yung kaso, eh. Kumbakit kasi kapag Aquino na, maraming ipinagkakamali sa Arroyo, eh ‘ampangit na kutonglupa ‘yang may garapata sa mukha.
Pero sana ang naging totoo ay ‘yung lumabas na maling balita noong burol ni Tita Cory na ang ipinagluluksa ay ang kamatayan ni Gloria Arroyo.
Sayang! Sana’y nakalaya na tayo sa mga kuko ng ga-tungaw na halimaw!
I used to like what the Magdalos did in Oakwood and have believed in what they are fighting for, but lately, I find them not to be taken seriously anymore. They are like a bunch of mercenaries ready to be on call….IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!!!——Mike – February 25, 2010 2:59 am
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Just goes to show how much 10 years of gloria’s evil and “talangka mentality” had affected even the idealistic few who we thought were steadfast thru the end. She pulls everybody down with her to the path of ignominy.
Hindi natin basa ang strategy nila. Katulad din noong unang maglunsad sila ng kilos laban sa gobyerno ni Arroyo, na kahit ang kanilang organisasyong kinaaaniban ay walang kamalaymalay. Nag-uumpisa pa lamang silang magtanim ng kanilang punla sa malawak na bukirin ng pakikibaka.
Of all these presidentiables, Gibo has the qualities of a president-in-the making. Excellent ang kanyang educational background. Bar topnotcher. May talino.
Kaya lang ay nasira siya sa kanyang pagiging aso-siyeyted sa bruha kaya lubog na lubog siya kahit lutang sa mga intellectual discussions ng mga presidentiables. Ang nakikita sa kanyang katauhan ay larawan ni gloria.
Ang isa pang dahilan ng hindi niya pag-angat ay ang napakalambot na posisyon niya sa mga katiwalian ni gloria na nangangahulugan lamang na nagbubulagbulagan siya o balewala lang ang mga hinaing ng karaniwang mamamayan tungkol sa kawing kawing na kawalanghiyaan ng mga iskwater sa malakanyang..
Sa aming mga pobre, sapat na ‘yung pangakong marangal na ipapo-prosekyut niya ang nagnakaw ng mga dapat ay para sa amin. At ‘yun ang hindi namin makita kay Gibo kaya mabibigo siyang makuha ang aming boto. Gayundin si Mr. MaC-5 Tumaga.
Huwag magpaloko sa mga hunyango at mga mapagkunwaring oposisyon. Para sa akin iisa lang ang TUNAY na OPOSISYON, at iyan ay si ERAP ESTRADA!!! Lahat ng mga dirty players sa EDSA 2 at nagpatalsik sa legitimate President Erap, ang mga nangbaboy sa Constitution ay hindi dapat iboto!!!
DILG Puno & Pichay are now supporting Money Villar. No longer that Money Villar is the “secret” candidates of Evil GMA. I guess before election comes marami pang pro-GMA cohorts ang maglalabasan for Money Villar. Marami pang halakhak na lalabas sa bibig ni Evil GMA.
The only solution of us is to eradicate this upcoming reign of evil from bitch GMA, Money Villar, Gibo & Gordon. Our country can no longer sustained this tyranny of evil for another 6 years again. Let us think for a leader who can defeat these reign of evil from GMA & Cohorts.
We need a new, young, God-fearing & a dynamic leader who can bring-up Phils again. God save the Phils!
MPR: thanks for your analysis of the political situation we are in today..of all of the preidential candidates Gibo is the most qualified and would make a good president..gwapo sana siya kaya lang dadungisan ang mukha niya..sa bisaya na tappingan siya..sayang..at hindi na niya ma alis ang stain..kahit na nga seguro ikula mo sa ariel or tide..o lagyan ng chlorox…na sira ang future niya..what I mean is if and when Noynoy/Mar wins, or even if only Mar wins..mahirap na niya mahabol ang karera..kahit na seguro lumipad siya…sayang!
btw:bukas dito sa NYC magkakaroon ng celebration remembering the People Power..sayang malakas ang snow..takot na kasi ako madulas..the event is organized by Loida Lewis and her friends..
narinig ko sa TV Patrol: si Villar na daw ang leading sa survey..Hep! Hep! aray!
rose, andito si Loida Nicolas Lewis. Napanood ko pa lang kahapon sa ANC. Malaki ang duda niya sa automation at ina-advocate niya ang pagbalik sa manual count.
nakatikim ba naman ng pork barrel si trillanes eh. Siguro natatawa yung grupo nina maestrocampo na naunang nakipagdeal sa arroyo government.
Sayang talaga…
Statement of Birg. Gen. Danny Lim, senatorial candidate under the Liberal Party ticket:
I have always insisted on doing the right thing. One of these is to defend the right to choose. I respect the Magdalo’s right to choose a candidate different from my own choice. I have always felt an affinity for my brothers in arms. It is this affinity and our common purpose and principles that led us to Manila Pen on Nov 29, 2007. I am grateful that they have endorsed my candidacy and have pledged to continue to do so. However their support for Senator Manny Villar’s presidency runs counter to my present situation having been adopted and supported by another party.
I’m not authorized to reveal many of the information I know but this I can tell you. If money were the consideration, Magdalo would have voted for Noynoy.
I will not be voting for president because there’s nobody among the presidential candidates i like or maybe I’ll just vote ofr nick perlas but if you think Noynoy camp plays clean, you are very, very wrong.
You disdain “transactional politics”, you think noynoy’s camop does not do that?
Banayo now confirmed it was really Trillanes who said that now infamous word ‘kalakaran’ in govt, and i quote:
“I almost fell off my monobloc chair when Senator Trillanes told me (there were five of us in the room), that (and I quote from memory) “Ganyan naman daw ang kalakaran…nag-explain sa akin si Manny dito…ganyan din naman daw ang ginagawa ni Enrile sa Cagayan)”.
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Sorry to the fans of Trillanes, i have never really admired him.
I agree with Ellen, on deals. It’s in the system. However, Magdalo group for me was pure, until they entered into an agreement with Manny Villar, who himself has “apparently” made a deal with GMA. Talks are ripe that PHP 5-6B has been earmarked by GMA for Manny V’s warchest, I have not confirmed this, but talks have been goin’ about. DILG Puno and Pichay are reportedly headed Manny Villar’s way. Sen. Sonny and his group surely have “intel” on this, if so, then, the premise is that they are dealing with the Evil One herself.
True, LP could have and may very well have made “deals”, like Ralph Recto among others,as mentioned, political deals are worth “Tiangge” price.
However, I do not think and would not believe that Noynoy would besmirch the legacy left and established, well established actually, by his parents, Ninoy and Tita Cory Aquino. Not to mention that his siblings are Non-Political people, whose names he also have to protect.
Noy, has been tasked by his father to take care of his mother and his sisters, therefore, I believe that Noy would do just that _ Protect their name and leave a legacy for the Filipino people to remember them by.
Here goes my choice for Senate :
Biazon, Ruffy (LP)
Cayetano, Pia (NP
Guingona, Teofisto (LP)
Hontiveros-Baraquel Risa
Lim, Danilo
Querubin, Ariel
Maza, Liza
Osmeña, Sergio III
Princesa, Reynaldo
Roco, Sonia
Lao, Yasmin
Acosta, Jr Nereus
Thanks
Masarap makituwa sa election, pero ang totohanan kong boto ay sa loob na lang ng booth. Malaki ang impact sa akin ng mga dumarating/nababasa na ‘impormasyon’ tungkol sa Magdalo endorsement of Villar and why it happened.
As to the candidacy of Ashley Acedillo in the 1st district of Cebu and James Layug in Taguig…ON kami dyan, walang atrasan.
Hindi ko pa napag-aaralan ng husto ang dalawang dehadong kandidato, hindi kasama dyan si Gibo. Sayang, umatras si JC, hehehe.
perl:
Lahat ng gagawin ng kandidato malalaman lang natin pagkatapos ng eleksyon, pati na yung kandidato mo.
Sugal yan gaya ng sabong.
Sa sabong itataya mo ang iyong pera pambili ng ulam at bigas sa isang hayop na maliit ang utak.
Ayokong sabihin na ang mga yan ay maliliit ang utak, ngunit ni isa sa kanila ay walang solution-oriented.
None of the frontrunners could really “inspire” the majority.
wala na talagang pag asa ang pinas.
Ano po ba ang naging partisipasyon ni Money Bili-arroyo sa project nila Ping sa video Conferencing para kay Trillones?
Akala ko ay ako lang dito ang None of the Above, si Ellen din pala.:-) Like I said previously, my vote is sacred and I will only give it to the person who shall hurdle my personal yardstick. A vote, to me, is a seal of approval. So far, no one is deserving of my approval.
Panahon na para matapos ang sistema kung saan ang liyamado – sa pamamagitan ng popularidad, o ayon sa survey na maaari namang baluktutin – ang tanging may pag-asang maging pangulo ng bansa. Ang winnability ay huli sa aking panuntunan
ng pagpili. Maaaring wala pa akong ibinotong nanalo dahil dito sa prinsipyong ito, pero kung ang lahat ng tao ay boboto ayon sa prinsipyo, siguro ay darating na din ang araw ng pagbabago.
Mas humahanga ako doon sa mga taong matibay ang paniniwala sa kanilang kandidato dala ng mga isyu at personal na kwalipikasyon. Hindi dahil iyon ang direksiyon ng agos.
Sa mga commenters dito, patuloy lang sana ang ganyang mga komento, para yung mga nagbabasa lamang ay makabuo ng maayos na desisyon, ayon sa mga argumento, at hindi dahil sabi ng survey.
Just exercise your right to vote habang may election pa sa Pinas(meron nga ba?). Nobody will begrudge you for doing so and choosing whoever it is you want to vote into office. Ang mahirap nyan, pagdating ng panahon na may napupusuan na kayong kandidato, di na uso ang election. . .di ba Pareng Tedanz? lol
Tongue: alam ko she is there now campaigning for Noynoy but I will not be surprised if she will be back tonight or tomorrow morning..sa gabi ang event at 6:00 pm. advance kayo sa amin..she is a jet setter and a trooper..
So, maybe Magdalo smell something “malansa” on the relationship between Noynoy and Gloria. Magdalo are trained soldiers and they know how to plan and fight a war. Their ears are on the ground and maybe they can hear footsteps in and out of the Noynoy=gloria camp. The puzzling thing is they first declared support to the LP and all of a sudden the switched to the NP on condition that an alliance with gloria is unacceptable. Based on that switching of support from Noynoy to Villar can be taken to mean that Noynoy is Gloria’s boy and not Villar.
So now the shoe is on the other foot, instead of Villaroyo it can now be called Aquiroyo.
But Villar is not off the hook and deserve the people’s vote. He has yet to clear his cases of landgrabbing and the C-5. His obscene spending to buy the election is too much to stomach.
The fact of this election is nobody really deserves to be elected as president.
It’s too bad that my choice is out of the running.
One thing surely must happen. The winners must pay up or else the grind of the COMELEC law will turn the tide around, even sainted votes becomes spiritless unless holy candidates cheated also.
you do not bath yourself in trash in Moriones St, Tondo. you do it in a far area at smokey mountain. During the 60’s everybody celebrate x’mas in the street because those were the days that peace and order lord over the land. When neighbors still knows each other by name and share foods.
bayong – February 26, 2010 10:06 am
RE: wala na talagang pag asa ang pinas?
Well, Igan Bayon…If na ang maluklok sa EK ay ang mga nakicked out ng Pidalista regime.
E magkakasama yan sa isang tiklis na utak-pulbura kaya magpalit man sila ng imahe e askal pa din ang dating.
Ngayon…magpapanggap pa na maka-Masa e sila yong tirador na dumusta sa pangarap na gustong matupad ng Masang Pinoy.
Inagay nila ang EK at gusto nila sila ang bosing so ngayon ano ang nangyari di ba sising-tuko mismo ang mga nakicked out ng Pidalista regime.
Sila itong maiingay at akala mo ang titino e puro naman pasaway.
May pag-asa pa tayo…till na ang Masang Pinoy e mananatiling tapat sa Saligang Batas, never na nating isali ang mga civil socialites e ang gusto lamang nito puro kapritsuhan sa buhay.
Mapangalagaan ang kanilang tinatangkilik na yamang-nakaw…lalo na yang si C5’t Tiyaga, ipaliwanag ang Norzagaray scam, C5 at may Iloilo pa ito.
Ano pa…bakit di ito ang atupagin ng mga intelehenteng-bobo na mga abogago sa ating bansa.
Ang kinakaya lang nila yaong pipitsuging Pinoy o kaya kalaban sa pulitika ng rehime.
balweg – February 26, 2010 2:47 pm
amen igan balweg..di kaya may kinalaman dito ang historya ng mga pinoy. Kung tutuusin ang buhay natin ngayon ay parang walang pagkakaiba nuong panahon ng mga kastila kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko sa historya natin. Tila baga walang karapatan ang ordinaryong pinoy sa lahat ng bagay, samantalang ang pamunuan kasama na ang mga kaalyado nito ay pwede nilang gawin ang lahat ng kanilang nais o bagay, kahit di na ayon sa sarili nating batas?
RE: Tila baga walang karapatan ang ordinaryong pinoy sa lahat ng bagay, samantalang ang pamunuan kasama na ang mga kaalyado nito ay pwede nilang gawin ang lahat ng kanilang nais o bagay, kahit di na ayon sa sarili nating batas?
Korek Igan Olan, panahon pa ni kopong-kopong e ito na ang problema ng Masang Pilipino. Ang naghaharing-uri sa ating lipunan…walang iba ang mga elitista na nagtatago sa palda ng mga obessepo ang siyang pahirap sa ating bayan.
Feeling saint ang pakiwari sa sarili nila, but kaibuturan ng puso e mga mata-pobre, gahaman at sakim.
Di ba ang mga asindero ang mga feudal landlord sa ating bansa, sila ang remnant ng mga prayle at gobernadorsilyo na half-breed Kastilaloy.
Lumipas ang mahabang panahon itong mga instik na dayo sa ating bayan e sila ngayon ang kakutsaba ng mga taong simbahan at lingkod-bulsa na naghahari-hariaan.
Ofcourse, mga Tsinoy na tinagurian but still sila ang threat sa ating pagka-Pilipino…madalas kong madinig ang katagang tayong Pinoy ang squatters sa sarili nating bayan?
Kasi nga itong mga utak-pulbura nating lingkod-bulsa e nakikipagkutsaba sa mga instik, at iba pang banyaga na ngayon ang siyang may kontrol ng ating ekonomioya at gobyerno de bobo ng rehime.
Puppet lang si gloria, but sa totoo lamang e hawak yan ng sindikato na anti-Masa…alam mo na kung sino yon?
I thought Magdalo made a wrong decision when I heard about it even before the official announcement. In my view, they should not have taken sides but rather waited it out and continue on with their advocacy even in jail, considering that they did what they did before to make a stand against CORRUPTION. In my view, the chance of themselves getting out of jail on their own accord, regardless of who wins the presidency, is very probable specially when the present administration is out of the picture. But decision had been made, only it looks like the decision only serves their needs and not about their stand on corruption.
Simply put, Magdalo TOLERATES CORRUPTION.
Ahh..as Forrest Gump said “Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.”
What was inside Villar’s box of chocolates? This guy never seems to run out of enticements. Look at his team. They’re more colorful than Joe de V’s rainbow.
“I will not be voting for president because there’s nobody among the presidential candidates i like or maybe I’ll just vote ofr nick perlas but if you think Noynoy camp plays clean, you are very, very wrong.” – Ellen T.
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Same here. Nick Perlas is my conscience-vote for president. I’d rather hedge on a non-winnable candidate than to start rationalizing with “choosing the lesser evil,” because “ganoon talaga ang kalakaran.”
“You disdain ‘transactional politics’, you think noynoy’s camp does not do that?” – Ellen T.
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Only the gullible and too young to have lived through the reign of Yellow – *fill in the blank* take the spiel that Noynoy’s team is “clean.”
“Does not lie, does not cheat nor tolerate those who do…” or something to this effect is a virtue that is DEMANDED of those who VOLUNTARILY chose to be true officers and gentlemen.
There is no shame to admit, “Sorry, pero hindi ko na po kayang panindigan ang mga ito. Kung kaya po ako ay bumaba na sa hanay na ito. Ipagpapatuloy ko pa parin po ang aking pagsisilbi sa bayan sa ibang paraan, ngunit hindi na po katulad noon na puno pa ako ng ideyalismo (idealism).”
But what honor is left when one parrots this Code of Conduct when those who espouse this know very well, it has changed to sloganeering, and worst, to deceive the desperate people to hang on to “that dream,” to extend the relavance of a groupp, if not for the sheer need to survive?
No doubt, there is honor in embodying the principles of this Code of Conduct. But there is greater honor to admit, “I cannot do it anymore.”
Just a theory, but being soldiers, are the Magdalos just following what a superior or a few of those superiors are shoving down their throats?
They have not broken out of their military skins yet perhaps?
It’s tough when you’re used to saying “Yes, sir!” all the time.
We knew Money Villar bought Magdalos already. Even kids & parents got it also. What’s next? Comelec, AFP & Teachers. This is what Money Villar is all about. Money buys everything even Malacanang!
Sen. Trillanes on Facebook:
2 points: One, the selection was made by 400 chapter leaders on behalf of 55,000 registered members. Whatever criteria that was used was not clear. Two, the guarantee to allow Magdalo’s participation in government was given by Villar, and he said Noynoy’s camp was silent.
Oh, so the Magdalo leadership just allowed the flock to herd the shepherds?
More from Trillanes:
Talk about fence-sitting. Didn’t Trillanes fence-sit the issue on the C-5 scandal? They didn’t make a stand against Villar then despite the clamor for transparency, Trillanes even washed his hands a la Pontius Pilate and declared, “This is not my fight, this is not the people’s fight” and bam! That very moment I knew he was for Villar.
On the inclusion of Tito Sotto on the Senatorial list:
Not that Sotto is a bad candidate, it’s just that his alliance with Gloria is generally viewed as unforgivable as it is opportunistic. But wait, wasn’t Sotto closely knitted with “Kuya” Gringo when both were managing FPJ’s failed presidential bid? Too bad, the Magdalo had a score to settle with Drilon, they had to endorse a candidate who’s STILL in Gloria’s camp rather than one who is opposing it.
Mon: “Does not lie, does not cheat nor tolerate those who do…” or something to this effect is a virtue that is DEMANDED of those who VOLUNTARILY chose to be true officers and gentlemen.
Absolutely spot on. The “tolerate” part did them in.
Magdalo’s Senatorial breakdown: 6 NP, 3 PMP, 2 LP, 1 NPC
The thing speaks for itself.
Statement of Ashley Acedillo
National Spokesman
and Candidate for Congressman (North District, Cebu City)
Early this year, after almost two months of introspection, the Magdalo decided to embark on another consultative process leading to a clear and definitive position as to who to support as candidates for PRESIDENT and VICE PRESIDENT of the Republic of the Philippines in the coming May 10, 2010 national election.
Availing of the same method used prior to last year’s Magdalo National Convention, we requested all Chapter Presidents, Executive Committee members, and national coordinators to cast their ballots in favor of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates belonging to the political opposition.
In two separate resolutions, which took effect February 24, 2010, the Magdalo has thrown its support and shall be actively campaigning for the candidacies of the following:
In Resolution Nr. 10-002, SENATOR MANUEL “Manny” BAMBA VILLAR, as candidate for PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES; and
In Resolution Nr. 10-003, SENATOR MANUEL “Mar” ARANETA ROXAS II, as candidate for VICE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES.
In endorsing Senator Manny Villar, we also addressed the issue surrounding the C-5 controversy, and lately, of allegations that Sen. Villar is the so-called “secret candidate” of Gloria Arroyo and this administration.
As previously articulated by Magdalo chairman, Senator Antonio Trillanes IV, we believe that the Office of the Ombudsman should be the proper forum against public officials deemed to have committed illegal acts. It is our belief that a trial by publicity against Senator Villar, perpetrated mostly by political opponents, detracts from the very essence of the Filipino people’s quest for truth and accountability which, to a large extent, the government of Gloria Arroyo and her cohorts have deprived us time and again.
As an erstwhile group of reformist military officers and soldiers, and now as a socio-political movement equally committed to the advocacy for change and reform, we take seriously the allegations that Senator Villar is being secretly promoted by the Arroyo administration. We challenge the people responsible for these accusations to make public and show proof of this. In light of recent revelations where a hate campaign via e-mail imputing charges of heartless opulence against Senator Villar have been shamefully revealed as part of a hoax, we can only view the “Villaroyo” dirty tactic with disdain.
Let us all be reminded that although the election season tends to encourage certain quarters of our society to take extreme measures in promoting the candidacies of their respective candidates, we should be committed to elevating the mode and tenor of the campaign to a higher plane. In saying this, the all-too-familiar tactic of character assassination and ‘mudslinging’ is not “par-for-the course” for the Filipino people. This is simply unacceptable. Our nation and our people clearly deserve better.
One man, one vote. Kahit bilyonaryo,milyonaryo o pisonaryo ka isang boto ka lang. Kaya mga kasama bumoto tayo. Boboto rin lang tayo sa ibang national positions at local positions…eh bumoto na rin kayo sa presidente. Ibaba natin ng isa o dalawang antas ang inyong patuntunan.
Halimbawa at sa banda banda roon ay makakita tayo ng angkop sa ating panuntunan at ito ay nanalo… anim na taon lang syang magsisilbi. Ang anim na taon ay hindi sapat para maiahon tayo sa pagkakalugmok. Tuloy tuloy ang pakikibaka nating mga botante. Tuloy tuloy ang pagbabantay.
Ang mungkahi ko po ay pumili tayo ng somebody – kung wala talagang ideal – who will hold the fort at hindi iyung maglulubog pa lalo sa ating kasalukuyang kalagayan.
Ibaba natin ng isa o dalawang antas ang ATING panuntunan.
Ah, the Magdalo. It was good while it lasted.
Tanong ni Villar: “Nasubukan na ba ninyong matulog sa maliit na bangko sa palengke?”
Hindi pa. E ano ngayon, porke’t sa bangko ka natulog, mahirap ka na? Na dapat ka nang ibotong presidente?
Kundi ba naman bopol e, nasa palengke ka, alangan namang matulog ka sa kutson!
In endorsing Senator Manny Villar, we also addressed the issue surrounding the C-5 controversy, and lately, of allegations that Sen. Villar is the so-called “secret candidate” of Gloria Arroyo and this administration. – Statement of Ashley Acedillo
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How about the land grabbing case in Norzagaray, Bulacan? Did Magdalo find this issue to be factual?
Yung tungkol sa mansion sa Utah, matagal nang umikot yan sa internet, bahay kuno ni Robert Mugabe, na-copy-&-paste lang at kay Villar naman ikinabit. Hindi pa man kumalat ng husto, eto na, paninira daw iyon ng kampo ni Noynoy.
Sus, ke babaw namang dahilan yan para ipagtanggol pa si Villar diyan. Pwede ngang galing sa kampo ni Villar mismo at itinanim sa grupo ng kalaban. Napaka-elementary naman niyan.
Ang ipinagtataka ko e kung bakit yung C-5, Daang-Hari, San Pedro Exit, Norzagaray, pati na yung sa Visayas hindi nila sagutin.
Pag paninira sa kalaban, mabilis idikit. Pagka anomalya ni Villar, sa Ombudsman na lang? Yan ba ang “higher plane”?
Nabasa na ba nila itong sinabi ni Lito Banayo kahapon? Ito ang sagutin nila.
http://www.malaya.com.ph/02262010/edbanayo.html
Kumukulo dugo ko pag nababasa ko yang Ombudsman na yan.
Ibabalik ko sa Magdalo ang tanong:
Bakit hanggang ngayon, hindi ninyo kinakasuhan sa Ombudsman yung sinasabi ninyong nagpasabog sa Sasa Wharf?
Yung nagbebenta ng armas sa mga rebelde, pitong taon na ninyong inirereklamo, bakit di ninyo isinampa sa Ombudsman?
Yung mga katiwalian sa purchasing ng supplies ng Navy, nasa Ombudsman na ba?
Namputcha, dalawang beses halos itinaya namin ang buhay namin sa Ayala para suportahan ang laban ng Magdalo sa kurapsiyon at katiwalian, ganito lang pala tayo magtatapos?
Tubig nga, tubeeeg! Sumisikip ang dibdib ko. Ayoko nung galing sa dagat ng basura.
Haaay.
Tongue: mukhang hindi makabalik si Loida, dahil maraming nacancel na flights..ang tindi ng snow storm ..sumisikat na ang araw dito pero hindi pa rin nalilinis ang kalye sa NYC..gawawang Bloomberg..tonight’s rally will be at the Central Park Tower..mayroon din na rally on Mar. 1 sa Manhattan..talagang paspasan ang campaigning for Noynoy..wala akong nababalitaan sa iba..wala atang pro Money dito..kung sa bagay hindi niya kailangan ang money..kung magbigay siya mag gate crash ako!
Pinakamalaki ang travelling expenses ni Trillanes among all the senators, despite na nakakulong siya. I read that the reason was it cost gasoline for his staff to come back and forth from his jail to the senate. Ilang beses sa isang linggo kailangang niya ang kanyang staff na mag back and forth. Ngayon na may cellphone, facebook, email at telepono, bakit kailangang magbiyahe often ang staff niya. Sa pork barrel niya na nasa 200 million pesos kada taon, ano, so far, ang mga accomplishments niyang si Trillanes?
Ang alam ko lang accomplishment niya ay 2 failed coup d etat
na ang venue ay sa mga bonggang hotels.
TonGuE-tWisTeD – February 27, 2010 1:00 am
Ah, the Magdalo. It was good while it lasted.
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Hu!Hu!Hu! Waaaaaaa!!!!
TonGuE-tWisTeD – February 27, 2010 1:05 am
Tanong ni Villar: “Nasubukan na ba ninyong matulog sa maliit na bangko sa palengke?”
Hindi pa. E ano ngayon, porke’t sa bangko ka natulog, mahirap ka na? Na dapat ka nang ibotong presidente?
Kundi ba naman bopol e, nasa palengke ka, alangan namang matulog ka sa kutson!
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Philo 101 lang bagsak na si Villarroyo!
#144 re Utah mansion..
Tongue, unang suspetsa ko ay galing mismo sa kampo ni Villar ang kumakalat na yan, Naisip ko agad ang nabanggit natin noon na ang makinarya/mga tao na nagpi-Pidal kay Villar ay mismong mga tao ni putot.
A friend from Las Pinas also emailed me the same opinion.
#145 Tongue, napapagod at nanlalata na rin yata akong sumigaw. I needed a good vacation to clear up my mind.
#148 martina
I don’t mind Trillanes expenditures, his explanation about it was believable. Also, I appreciate that the Magdalo staged the Oakwood and Manila Pen against Gloria Arroyo’s kababuyan. Iba ang mga insidenteng yan sa isyu ngayon na endorsement nila kay Villar.
Why did the Manila Pen incident fail? Natatandaan ba ninyo na hindi dumating ang mga civil society na nag-udyok at nangako sa kanila ng warm bodies? Also, Binay failed them, he also promised warm bodies. Puro sila takot kay Gloria at Asspweron ng magpakita ng gilas ang mag-among demonyo. Ayon, iniwan sa kangkungan ang Magdalo. Hindi nga kumibo ang Magdalo dyan, ni hindi sila binigyan ng kahit konting blame. Ang pagkakamali nila ay naniniwala sila sa mga udyukeros na walang balls sa oras na kailangan.
Mahirap ang ginawa nila. Buhay, pamilya at career ang itinaya. Hindi ko kaya yan…
Let’s give credit where credit is due.
Hi Chi :
Why did the Manila Pen incident fail? Natatandaan ba ninyo na hindi dumating ang mga civil society na nag-udyok at nangako sa kanila ng warm bodies? Also, Binay failed them, he also promised warm bodies.
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What’s the gay(no pun intended) at the helm of SSS got to say about this? Let’s look beyond Binay as well.
#141 Toungue ; #149 CHI.
me too…sigh…tsk….sigh…
kapatid,
Si Manay Romela…yan pa, ewan ko kung anong buntot ang bahag, hehehe!
Tongue: wala ka bang duda sa automated election? ilang tulog na lang pero marami pa ang hindi alam kung papaano..ang haba ng ballot..ilang dipa..was Comolect able to educate all the voters? papaano sa Maguindanao? na turuan ba ang mga botante? baka yari na ang mga ballots..huwag niyong pagbintangan si Ampatuan..he is in jail..pero ang mga “subjects” niya…nagbabantay..
“As previously articulated by Magdalo chairman, Senator Antonio Trillanes IV, we believe that the Office of the Ombudsman should be the proper forum against public officials deemed to have committed illegal acts.” – Statement of Ashley Acedillo Post #138
There are only two ways I can read this;
1. Magadalo regretted doing the Oakwood and Manila Penn “adventures,’ because those were not the PROPER fora. So, why not apologize to Gloria A.? Or, at least to the people? Then just stop whining about their incarceration as a form political harassment.
2. “Proper forum” is the right way to do things when it is now politically and financially expedient.
Had this “belief” in the Office of the Ombudsman comes from those who did NOT do their forum shopping at Oakwood and Manila Penn to call the public’s attention to the extremely believable illegal acts of Gloria A and her generals, I would not have picked any bones.
So, “ano ba talaga kuya?” Paninindigan pa ba talaga ang usapan dito? O, are we embracing the system, kasi, “ganoon ang kalakaran?”
I believe Magdalo and its leadership have embraced the “kalakaran” way.
Choosing between “idealists and reform oriented” leaders who eventually capitulate to the expediency of “kalakaran,” and those who are Constitutionalists, as Protector of the State and the People, obvious na doon na ako sa hindi malakas ang dating, pero sa huli ang bagksak, sisiping din pala sa mga taong isinusuka nila noon….
I 100% agree with you Olan in your post #158.
Sa tingin ko nabasura ang paninindigan dahil sa ‘kalakaran’. Sa banda ni Villarroyo, iisa lang ang kalakaran – ang magkabayaran.
martina – February 27, 2010 1:09 pm
You may be mistaken thread #158 is by Mon – February 27, 2010 11:16 am
“magkabayaran”,saan naman kukuha ng ipambabayad sa bulsa ni juan,nihalos di kayang bumili ng noodles may lahok ng dahon ng malungay,aanin ko ang mga pinang-bayad mga paid celebrities at mga media entities na milyon-milyon upang sabihin sila ay bilib sa isang mandurugas,those amount is a fraction of 6 bilyon pinoy money.o baka sa another 30yrs commimnet loan sa foriegn countries,eto nga kung tayo ay magbabago ng pamamalakad simula sa taong ito,it will take 70 yrs before we can get to our own feet,diyos natin lahat aba patay na lahat ang ipanangak sa taong ito ay may utang pa.o baka mag-bebenta ng isang butil na buhangin at ang halaga ay isang bato ng graba sinlaki ng kamao ni pacman sa foriegner para ipukpuk sa kanyang ulo.money,money lahat ay nagdurusa ng dahil sa iyo pati na ang mga susunod lahi di pa man nakakasilay ng liwanag ay dilim na ang kanilang kahahantungan.
Yes, sorry Olan, was wrong there, should be by Mon.
Well, Trillanes have set the trend for those incarcerated soldiers to jump into the political bandwagon. Makikita after the election, kung sasama sila sa kalakaran o maninindigan sa kanilang prinsipyo.
Para sa mga Magdalo at iba pang pro-kalakaran (or pro corruption?):
Everything you wanted to know about Senator Manny Villar:
“Singit at Taga”
http://singitattaga.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html
1. Magadalo regretted doing the Oakwood and Manila Penn “adventures,’ because those were not the PROPER fora. So, why not apologize to Gloria A.? Or, at least to the people? Then just stop whining about their incarceration as a form political harassment. – Mon
They should do that if they meant this, wala nang ligoy-ligoy pa. If they regretted the ‘adventures’, better be true to the people who still find worth in what they did.
hindi ko huhusgahan ang magdalo dahil kahit paano sila ang nakakulong hindi tayo pero paalala lamang sa kanila, kanino bang partido tumatakbo si jocjoc bolante, si arman sanchez at ultimo itong si ermita. sana lang huwag rin nila kallimutan ang pagnanakaw at pangaagaw ng lupa ng mga villar sa mga mahihirap na tao gaya ng mga dumagat sa norzagaray.
ganun pa man, iboboto ko pa rin si lim pero si querubin, ewan ko, hindi ba siya yung pinuno ng marines na naghelehele kaya nandiyan pa si gloria.
Our nation and our people clearly deserve better. – Ashley Acedillo
Sorry, Ashley. We support Magdalo’s cause and respect any decision collectively agreed by members because our nation, as you said deserves a better leadership and so our people subalit HINDI namin kaya bilang pagsang-ayon sa nasabing desisyon ang suportahan si Manuel Villar DAHIL sa pagkukunwari niya’t paggamit at pagkasangkapan sa mga mahihirap na taga Tondo upang mabigyang katarungan ang kanyang pagiging isa rin daw dating mahirap.
Hindi kayang tanggapin ng aming kunsensiya ang piliing maging pangulo ang gaya ni Villar na HINDI marunong humarap sa mga kasong ibinibintang sa kanya at hindi kayang sagutin (katulad ni gloria at mga alipores na nagpasasa sa kapangyarihan at kaban ng bayan) ang mga katanungang iniuugnay sa kanyang pagkakasangkot sa C-5 scandal, ang pag-convert niya sa classification ng agricultural lands sa Iloilo na binili sa murang murang halaga sa mga magsasaka at ginawang residential na tinabuan ng kanyang kumpanya ng ilang patong na tubo at itong huli, ang diumano’y pangangamkam sa mga lupain ng mga kawawang Dinagat sa Norzagaray upang tayuan muli ng pabahay na pagkikitaan na naman nila ng limpak. Ang ganito ‘ika n’yo ay dapat ihain sa Ombudsman? Para ano? Para amagin lamang at pagpistahan ng mga ipis dahil itatambak sa isang tagong sulok? Mas maige pang nga kung tutulugan, baka sakaling gawin pang unan, magkakaroon pa ng pakinabang ang makapal na dokumentong hindi nila pag-aaksayahan ng oras na basahin at aksyunan.
Kung ganito ang magiging pinunong hindi kayang harapin ang mga akusasyon, sagutin at ipagtanggol ang sarili, ano pa kaya ang kalagayan ng lubog na lubog na nating bansa? Panibagong mga kasinungalingan na naman katulad ng mga SONA ni gloria?
Isa pang bagay na dapat sana ninyong pinagtuunan ng pansin – PAANO at SAAN niya babawiin ang BILYONES na niyang ginastos sa kanyang mga campaign advertisements? Libre na lang ba ‘yun? Alang alang sa malinis at matapat na paglilingkod?
MAHIRAP para sa amin ang ibigay ang tiwala sa taong IGINIGISA kami sa aming sariling mantika. Maaga pa’y namulitika na, nanggugulang sa mga katunggali at ginamit ang mga kapwa namin OFW’s sa pakunwaring pagmamalasakit sa kanilang kapakanan, pagpapauwi sa mga inabuso’t pinagsamantalahan gamit daw ang salaping galing sa SARILI niyang bulsa na akala niya’y paniniwalaan ng lahat ng makakabasa at makakapanood ng kanyang mga binayarang political ads.
Tusong negosyante, magpapauwi ng daan daang OFW’s ng libre?
Tsk. tsk. tsk.
There’s aninteresting thread on this in Samahang Magdalo’s FB. The choice is challenged hard! http://www.facebook.com/people/Samahang-Magdalo/1574166319
Aprub, MPR!
The people deserve better than Villarroyo!
Hayyy…naman!
Only the gullible and too young to have lived through the reign of Yellow – *fill in the blank* take the spiel that Noynoy’s team is “clean.” – Mon
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Just asking. You made a claim and yet no details. Do you think it’s proper to support your claim?
Ang lohika ng mga mahihirap at ibang sektor ng lipunan na isinusulong Money-dugas vil-liar,kahit sa huling araw nila sa mundo ay nakatikim sila ng sarap,tulad ni pareng Ompong pinababahala ko na sa mga ka-apoapohan natin lahat ang pagbabayad ng utang kagagawan ng kanilang ninuno,out of our hand the responibilities kung dedbol na ang nagtamasa ng sarap. Ang sarap siguro maririnig pag ang kaapo-apohan natin lahat ay murahin tayo.mga pesteng yawa,mga tontong mga tao pala itong mga ninuno nating gihapon.
Wala na sa sarili ni Villarroyo. Imagine, binili ng bente-bente sa Bantangas ang mga bata dahil siya raw ay compassionate. Namudmod rin ng scholarsship sa kanyang concert. Naknamputsa, bakit kailangang ipagsigawan sa entablado ang magandang hangarin, kung gayun nga?!
Aba luko-luko na, basta manalo ay hindi alintana ang masamang buto (seed) na itinatanim niya sa isipan ng mga bata.
Compassionate daw si Money Villar, ha!ha!ha!… kaya pati mga bata ay binibili para iparating kay inay at tatay na nilimusan sila ng bente pesos at scholarship ni Villar.
Dapat ang ganid na Villar ay disqualified kaagad sa pagtakbo, hayagang pamimili ng boto yan a!
Paano ididisqualify si Villar ng comelec ay kaya din niyang bilhin mga taga comelec. Ha ha, i could see them laughing going to the bank. Err some more Mr money.
villaroyo is one of the worst presidential bet in phil history, villaroyo should not have been allowed to run in the first place, being exposed by his fellow senators as extremely corrupt, a liar and an opportunist. villaroyo is not qualified even to be a barangay tanod with his track record of being a “bantay salakay”, villaroyo is well known for exploiting people and taking advantage of his position to gain illegal advantage for himself.
“Just asking. You made a claim and yet no details. Do you think it’s proper to support your claim?” – Post # 169 by Olan
Olan, I had my few brushes with a few major people behind Noynoy’s political machinery that has long convinced me that Noynoy cannot and could not claim “clean politics.”
Though these brushes are of the ocular and verbal experience (nakita at narinig sa paguusap), I have to video-with-audio record of those conversations to provide details that can stand in court. Even if I do provide the details in this forum, I do not have the kind of solid documentation that will not relegate the details to mere “hearsay.”
I guess I happen to be old enough and at the “right places” to have had those few first hand accounts why I cannot trust Noynoy’s team.
The fact that he opted to use motherhood statements as his platform of government, and using an emotional appeal to the people to combat corruption simply indicate that he is as tradpol as Villar, Erap or Jamby.
Had Noynoy simply chose to offer a detailed program of government how this country can stop from its decent to the bottom of political, moral and financial hellhole, I could have considered him up there with Nick Perlas.
Suffice to say that with a little more browsing, those who wish to believe in Noynoy may use this time to dig a little deeper into what his team is really made of.
Mon
“I have to video-with-audio record” – I have *no* video-with audio record. Sorry, kulang pa sa kape 🙂
‘We all have the freedom to vote but please do not dictate your favorites to change their minds! If they follow yours, what about mine.” – valdemar
Valdemar, I do not believe anyone here is dictating their favorite, or could dictate even if that is the intention. As a forum, people here I suppose is simply in this “market place of ideas” sharing what they think and what they believe. One is free to accept, or consider, or to reject any ideas one finds here, and in any other fora.
#176 Mon :
I agree with this, absolutely.
I still am voting for Noy and Mar though.
My Senate slate, I have posted at #114, as mentioned, I posted that on the premise that some folks here can enlighten me if I made the right choice for the Senators.
kapatid,
Sa listahan mo ay isa lang ang tanong ko. Bakit gusto mo si Pia Cayetano? hehehe.
I had my few brushes with a few major people behind Noynoy’s political machinery that has long convinced me that Noynoy cannot and could not claim “clean politics.”
The fact that he opted to use motherhood statements as his platform of government, and using an emotional appeal to the people to combat corruption simply indicate that he is as tradpol as Villar, Erap or Jamby – Mon – February 28, 2010 8:25 am
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But that’s not Noynoy or Roxas, and more likely not the likes of Acosta, Roco, Hontiveros, A. Lacson, Lim, Busran-Lao or Baustista, as oppose to others. Your brushes or verbal experience with major personalities behind Noynoy political machinery, however bad the situation maybe, is of a personal nature in my view. At the same time, those involve in your personal situation are not the ones running for office but the above as noted.
Digging deeper, if one has to look at the personalities behind ANY candidates or political machinery for that matter as you discussed, is no different than any group as you claim. Andyan yan kahit kaninong grupo.
Many knows that we do not have a system that most in government or personalities adhere to or follow. Enough for them to police themselves from excesses. In my view, regardless of who wins in this election, not much will change because there’s nothing to hold them too or make them accountable for their actions if need be. We are at the mercy of those who lead us, the winning president this May 2010 for that matter. Sure, we have congress and judiciary but example they have shown us or what have they’ve done during Arroyo’s presidency? Congress transact and the Judiciary concur. Political influence maybe? and at the same time for matters of national importance, is slow to react to render meaningful decisions, in some cases their decisions becomes meaningless due to excessive refilling for consideration or outright rejection in a different form. It is in my opinion that our election now had been degraded and becomes a contest to select the less evil due to a system, we call Democracy with check and balance that is not working.
To stop the descent to the bottom of political, moral and financial hell hole our country is in, is a matter to be taken seriously but given the system we have is remain to be seen. Unless a miracle happens that most opted to serve our country’s interest first than themselves. For now, probably the best way for voters to do or consider when selecting a president and the like, is to look at each candidate individual backgrounds to include their past actions affecting the people, especially the top contenders and make their decision based on what they thought is factual and reasonable in the hopes that whoever is chosen will do the right thing.
Just curios, why the emphasis on Noynoy, why not Villar, Erap, Jamby, or Gibo? Is Noynoy too good to be the focus of attention most of the time? Just asking.
#178 – Chi.
Thanks Chi. I included her for the assistance she provided to us in time of our need. However, noting that you have questioned this, I shall dig deeper and perhaps find an alternative if there is one that could be better. I am actually looking at Alex Lacson and Satur Ocampo (Satur though is now prominently running alongside Bong Bong, son of his tormentor) and I can;t seem to reconcile the logic, except for the “budget” or Carrot Stick that could have been provided by someone. An incentive if we could call it that…
I would most definitely include and vote for Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada of the NBN-ZTE, but he is not running at all…
Chi, I respect and appreciate your comments, even in previous threads / issues, hence, grateful for your question.
Cheers!
Understandable, kapatid. With very limited choices, you’ve done well in choosing your senatorial bets, in my opinion.
“He said they might move for amnesty in the next administration.” This means that they might admit that their actions were illegal. But were their actions of the right moral ethics? This is the more fundamental issue. Our national heroes like Gen Ricarte, Gen Luna or Gen Sakay also did illegal actions.
If their actions were of the right moral ethics, how do they as would be political leaders instill right moral ethics in the minds of us filipinos, especially the youth by admitting having done an illegal action inspite of it being of the right moral ethics? Then the government they would serve would be no different from the government of the Philippines during the time of Ricarte, Luna and Sakay which was of the legal framework but not of the right moral ethics. If this were so, how then can they instill right moral ethics in the filipinos especially the youth if they would be serving the government which is legal but devoid of the right moral ethics?
It may be a political maneuver but, up to today, there seem to be no apparently clear pattern of actions which can deliver a signal to us filipinos especially the youth that you instill the right moral ethics. We, the morally leaderless people, need a clear signal. We, the morally confused youth, need a clear direction guide.
Chi, Thank you.
Great week ahead everyone…
“Just curios, why the emphasis on Noynoy, why not Villar, Erap, Jamby, or Gibo? Is Noynoy too good to be the focus of attention most of the time? Just asking.” – Olan, from Post #179
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Quite simple. Erap, Villar, Jamby or Gibo, in my book have long been discredited. For example, Gibo betrayed his true color in choosing Edu as vice, not because he is an actor, but because he is not a presidential material; and why would I entrust the helm to someone I know is not capable of running the ship in case my time to go come too soon?
Why Noynoy? Because it riles me in his pitch of “too high a moral ground” – as if he is the antithesis of everything wrong in our political system. And Noynoy cannot wash his hands clean when he made the choice to let those people into his team. One way or the other, he will pay them back, at the expense of the people, as always.
Political reality? Yes. Ergo, he does not represent a “new breathe of life,” rather he is nothing more than a false image of probity because it is expedient.
Why Noynoy? Because it riles me in his pitch of “too high a moral ground” – as if he is the antithesis of everything wrong in our political system. And Noynoy cannot wash his hands clean when he made the choice to let those people into his team. One way or the other, he will pay them back, at the expense of the people, as always.
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There is no such thing as “too high a moral ground” you choose only between “with moral ground” or “no moral ground”, right or wrong, light or darkness, its a choice everyone of us must make, there is no gray area in between, its either you commit not to steal or not commit because you have plans in doing so…
He cannot speak for everyone in his party, who the hell can anyway, but at least he speaks for himself and takes a clear position – what more can you ask from anyone?
If you apply for a position and I’m your interviewer when I ask you a direct question I expect you to have a direct “yes” and “no” answer, no beating around the bush otherwise its all bullshit…
for as long as we have someone who has no personal experience of allowing massacres to happen, directly manipulated policies to enrich himself, etc…we have a chance of reparing our institutions and resinstate the much needed check and balance in our political system…a check and balance that even the president is guided by not the other way around…
There’s no “new breathe of life” in the Philippines as the country stinks, there are only attempts to bring back a state of normalcy, stability, and the hope of finding better leadership as we strive to evolve into something better each time, and not regress…
In my opinion, discrediting Noynoy without basis will only mean a leg-up for Villar, unless Erap is up to really close this issue! It’s easy to say that bad people are in Noynoy’s team unless substantiated. Who are they if what you are saying is true? I have not seen or heard off real issues or anomalies tied to Noynoy either. I do believe he is capable and can make decisions. If one will look at his senatorial line-up, most can be considered competent and clean. In my book, they can claim a high a moral ground if we are to compare them with the other top contender. One just need to look around to know anomalies tied to other vying for the position but then again it’s me. I’ll rather have another Erap presidency sans Noynoy.
Its really a shame what happened to Magdalo. I had my doubts about these guys earlier when Honasan figured too prominently then again I believed as most people – I guess they badly wanted to serve the country as part of government (a whole lot of them are running) and they can’t be accomodated by Noynoy’s party as their line up is full already hence their alliance with VIllar…
…so all the issues concerning Villar are simply “mudslinging” and trial by publicity and must be brought to the Ombudsman, its true…but why all the statements earlier about the Arroyo administration, wasn’t that trial by publicity also?
…I don’t know but it seems some people are fed up palying the hero already and now want to get paid – big time…
…its painfully obvious…it was good while it lasted…our romance with apparently “uncompromising” people…another one bites the dust, points go to the “consumate deal maker.”
Mon,
Read Lito Banayo’s column, bida ka dun. 🙂
Post #188 – Chi
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Hehehe. Incidental lang na na mention ako doon sa column ni Mr. L. Banayo. It so happend that since the early 90s, I made it a habitto always “sign” my letters to the Op Ed (before blogging came to fore) to make it easer for people to check if I have any other agenda other sharing my thoughts, biased as they are 🙂
Chi, as I keep pointing out here and other blogs – it is best to stick with the principles espoused, and never get attached with a group or personalities.
I cannot and will not condemn Magdalo for finally finding the fork in their journey between their idealism, reality and limitations. I cannot imagine the pressures they have been subjected to. But I knew it was but a matter of time. I’ve seen it before a decade or so ago.
What is good about this recent event re Villar and Magdalo is that we, the “followers and admirers” are again reminded of our own responsibilties.
Though I wish to point out:
The “problem” with idealism is not because its noble aspiration is flawed, but it tends to be too detached from the reality of “limitations.” And then, when reality strikes, the figurative blinding light used as a rallying torch leaves a shadow that appears darker.
Sa sobrang taas ng pangarap, kahit sabihin ng kaunti lang ang ibinababa papalapit sa katotohanan, sa halip na hindi kapansin-pansin, halos lahat ng tagamasid ay nagigimbal na may kasamang tanong na “bakit nagkaganoon?”
Worst, those who are at the forefront of this march tend to be the last to realize that the goal they have set for themselves have proven time and again to overstretch their reality, and before one realizes it, it simply snaps.
Bottom line is: Creative and proactive changes are great, and even radical changes can really be what are needed; it takes time, though, a long time, to do all these. Nothing less than sustained – albeit imperfect adherence – practice of these values in *our* lives, can *we* begin to demand the same, although of a higher plane and intensity, from our leaders.
Andres Bonifacio’s KKK, RAM-YOU of Gringo and et al, and now the Magdalo. They all started with their ideals and dreams. They wanted revolutionary changes, and this is good. But without the evolutionary changes from within, those dreams – without the humility and honesty for self-inventory – can and will consume them.
I still want that day of having a “Senator Danilo Lim” up there.
I thank the Magdalo for their idealism converted into actions when we needed reformists to defy Gloria and exposed her excesses. That mission was already accomplished as pinoys were jolted from deep slumber.
Everything must come to an end even idealism and dream. Only the future could tell if they’ve chosen well…
But for now, as tongue said, “Ah, the Magdalo. It was good while it lasted.”
I can’t help it chi, mon, jug. I’m a hopeless romantic. The Trillanes victory in 2007 was the template for the next ones who wish to step up to the plate. Those who came after him simply did not have the same courage and conviction.
They would have been picture-perfect icons for the telenovela-overindulging Pinoys, which are the majority of voters.
I’m already over it, tongue. I don’t romance the past for long, hehehe.
Ikaw rin, baka wala ka nang matagpuang iba if you nurture the thought of them that “would have been picture-perfect icons for the telenovela-overindulging Pinoys…”. hahaha!