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In Arroyo’s indecent regime: loyalty over substance

Related article: Primer on presidential visits by Roberto R. Romulo

As we bid goodbye to President Cory Aquino, we reminisce her presidency with affection because that was the time when sincerity, honesty , and decency characterized all her decisions and actions.

Decency is one thing that we cannot say of the hustling among members of Gloria Arroyo’s men and women on who would be included in Arroyo’s official party in the meeting with US President Barack Obama last week.

The White House bilateral meetings was supposed to be five plus one for both sides. That means Arroyo and five cabinet members. Obama and five cabinet members on the others side.

Members of the legislature are usually not included in cabinet meetings. They are just for display to give the impression of unity of the executive and legislative branches of government.

A reliable source said the original members of Arroyo’s party were Ambassador Willy Gaa, Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita, Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro, and Finance Secretary Gary Teves.

The American side would have the counterparts of those officials in the meeting.

An executive secretary usually does not join the president’s foreign visit but a Malacañang official explained that Ermita was the one who defended the Arroyo administration’s human rights record before the United Nations. Since they expected human rights to be on the agenda, it was decided that he should be part of the official party.

The Philippines made a special request that Senator Miriam Santiago and House Speaker Prospero Nograles be included. The White House agreed.

But then Undersecretary Remedios “Mely” Poblador convinced Arroyo to have her included in the official party because she wanted to have a photo with Obama. The White House did not agree to another addition. Teves was removed from the list to accommodate Poblador.

Then Heherzon Alvarez, presidential adviser on climate change, also wanted to be included. They removed Teodoro.

The official lamely explained that climate change was in the agenda. I replied, “So is counter-terrorism.” The official just shrugged his shoulders.

Who is Poblador and what’s her influence on Arroyo that the latter had to drop her finance secretary to accommodate her?

Poblador’s official designation is undersecretary and she is assigned at the Office of the Presidential Adviser on Political Affairs. But she is known more in the political circles as Arroyo’s “bag woman”.

She does political operation of a different kind. Her name was mentioned by Undersecretary Many Gaite when he gave NBN/ZTE star witness Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada P500,000 shopping money in when he was sent to Hongkong to evade the senate investigation.

During meetings of the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines, Poblador has been reported to be giving gifts to bishops. She is said to be a relative of Cardinal Gaudencio Rosales.

During the Senate investigation on the wiretapping of the conversation of Arroyo and then Comelec Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano, former military intelligence agent Vidal Doble revealed it was Poblador who convinced him to leave the San Carlos seminary where he sought refuge following his expose on the “Hello Garci” tapes where Arroyo and Garcillano were caught discussing about manipulating election results in her favor.

After leaving the San Carlos seminary, the military took custody of Doble and his family.

How about Alvarez? It seems that he is not the only one very influential with Arroyo because his wife, Cecile, who is chairperson of the National Commission on Culture and Arts, has been named National Artist.

That award is now the subject of protests by the arts and culture community.

A friend shared with me a conversation he had with former Rep. Prospero Pichay when Alvarez’s appointment as environment secretary was being deliberated by the Commission on Appointment.

Pichay told my friend of his conversation with Arroyo when he inquired why she is pushing for Alvarez’ confirmation despite protests from credible personalities in the environment community. Arroyo reportedly told Pichay, “Alvarez started the anti-Erap fight. He initiated the impeachment complaint against Erap at the time when nobody wanted to touch it.”

The official lamented that once again Arroyo showed that “she values loyalty over substance.”

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Since the archives of Philippine Star is unreliable, I’m posting here the July 30, 2009 column of former Foreign Secretary Roberto Romulo.

FILIPINO WORLD VIEW By Roberto R. Romulo

Primer on presidential visits

Much has been written lately about President Arroyo’s forthcoming visit to Washington D.C. where she will meet with President Obama. For better public understanding of this event, I will provide here a brief primer on presidential visits to a country, and the various permutations and protocols.

To start off, there are various grades and levels to a visit by a head of state or government to another country. A State Visit is the highest level accorded to a head of state. At this level, “guest status” is accorded him or her, as well as to a select number of accompanying officials (e.g. 1+13) specified by the host country. This means that the President and spouse plus the accompanying group are provided accommodations, transportation and some other amenities during the visit, as well as with a usually standardized official program.

Depending on the country, there are specified ceremonials. For example, in Washington, these would include a welcome ceremony on the White House Lawn, bilateral meetings with the US President and cabinet, and a black tie state dinner at the White House. In other countries, such as Spain, and other nations with monarchies, there is much more pomp and ceremony culminating in a white tie and tails state dinner.

In an Official Visit, the visiting President and spouse are accorded “guest status.” This “guest status” is also extended to a smaller number of the President’s official party.

A Working Visit usually means no “guest status” other than security and transportation for the President and predetermined number of her official party. In ASEAN countries, however, “guest status” is always accorded to the visiting head of state.

In the case of the United States, my personal experience with two Filipino Presidents leads me to conclude that presidential visits are primarily meant for the President and other members of his/her cabinet, i.e. the executive branch of government. All meetings outside the White House are traditionally with counterpart members of the executive branch. However, selected members of the legislature accompany the President when he/she meets with members of the US Congress and the Filipino community.

The meeting with the President of the United States in the Oval Office includes the cabinet, such as the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, the Secretary of Trade and Industry, the Secretary of Defense, and the respective heads of the Senate and House of Representatives or their representatives. Recently, the Executive Secretary is also included. It is really the President’s personal selection which cabinet members are included. As a rule of thumb, that means a total of six including the President (1+5).

There has been much controversy about the limited number allowed in the Oval Office. Congressmen accompanying our President fervently believe that they have a “God-given” right to also meet the American President and, of course, to avail of a photo opportunity. Even members of the press accompanying our President have had a similar presumption. Because of the strictures of protocol and US practice and failure to accommodate these demands, I have incurred in the past the ire of our venerable legislators and pundits.

Turning now to the US visit this week of President Arroyo, I am informed that some 30 members of Congress are going to Washington “at their own expense” to accompany her. The problem with this is that it gives rise to a perception of extravagance and ostentatiousness from a developing country. This additional entourage really has no added value to the President’s delegation for a meeting in the White House. To be precise, they have no role to play. All they do is encumber our embassy staff in Washington with the burden of finding “things” for them to do so that they can justify their own travels to the press and their constituents. Dyahe!!!

Another source of controversy is the legislators’ belief, whether senator or representative, that they outrank a cabinet secretary. The protocol, first of all, is determined by the host country not our protocol people. Whether in Paris or Washington, the cabinet secretaries outrank the legislators, except the Senate President and Speaker. This misconception can generate a privilege speech or private encounter berating the chief of protocol or senior official in charge of coordinating the trip. Even after a detailed explanation, the “offended legislator” bears a grudge which could result in the non-confirmation of the protocol officer when he is slated for a higher foreign service position.

Missing Amorsolo painting of the Leyte landing

In 1947 when my father, General Carlos P. Romulo (then Permanent Representative to the United Nations), returned to the US from a Manila visit, he brought back with him three paintings by Fernando Amorsolo. Two were portraits of my mother and himself, and the third was a painting of the famous landing in Leyte of General Douglas MacArthur in October 1944 that commenced the liberation of the Philippines. The American general was accompanied by President Sergio Osmeña and others, including my father, who was then the aide de camp of General MacArthur. Through the years, those three paintings were always prominently placed in the homes we lived in, wherever my father was assigned. When he returned to Manila to assume the position of president of the University of the Philippines, the paintings were permanently placed in Kasiyahan, our Forbes Park residence.

Sometime in the early ‘80s, when former first lady Mrs. Imelda Marcos arranged to have a Filipiniana exhibit in the New York store of Bloomingdales, she borrowed the painting from my father. After several months, I vaguely remember that my father and stepmother Beth Day Romulo tried to locate it but to no avail. Almost three decades have now passed and my daughter Liana, who is in charge of CPR memorabilia, retrieved a photo of the Romulo family with the Leyte landing painting in Washington D.C. She has been trying to locate the painting by asking friends and DFA personnel in the United States if they have seen it.

Speaking for the Romulo family and myself, we would like to retrieve the painting because of its sentimental and historic value. It properly belongs with the other CPR memorabilia. The Romulo family would be most grateful to anyone who could give us information where we can find it in the United States or the Philippines.

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41 Comments

  1. chi chi

    Iba na talaga ang taga-bitbit ng pera!

  2. chi chi

    “she values loyalty over substance.”

    Gloria Arroyo values only herself!

  3. Gabriela Gabriela

    What was Poblador’s contribution to the meeting? Did she give an envelop for Obama just like what she did to the bishops?

    I can just imagine the impression left with the protocol officers of the White House and the State Department.

    What an insult to the Finance and Defense secretaries. Their counterparts became Poblador and Alvarez.

  4. chi chi

    Completely nawalan ako ng gana kay Pareng Barak sa kanyang pagbibigay sa kapritso ni korap Gloria. I can say, Gloria had the Global President!

  5. florry florry

    I heard that the bath water in Obama’s bathtub dried up. It did not go down the drain, it was slurped by Gloria and her boys and girls.

  6. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Anong papel ni Remedios “Mely” Poblador sa White House visit? Masyadong magasto kung Obama photo-op lang. Talagang malakas ang ang kapit kay Gloria. Baka may milagro sa gabi.

  7. Di ba pamangkin ni Cardinal Rosales si Mely Poblador? Medyo dumidistansiya na si Rosales kay Gloria so it’s about time this Poblador also quits. Ano ba ang ginagawa ng isang Cardinal at Uncle sa pamangkin? Except of course if he continues to receive white envelope from her.

  8. Baka naman nag-donate din si Pandak sa kung anong foundation ni Pareng Barack gaya nung Clinton Global Initiative kaya mas importante si Medy Kubrador kesa kay Teves o Teodoro.

  9. chi chi

    Hindi tatanggihan ni Pareng Barak ang donasyon ni Panduck na nasa brown bag ni Medeprensya kasi ngayon pa lang ay naghahanda na sila pareho ni Hillary for a second bout.

    Idiot na Panduck! Medepresnya Kubrador over Gibo and Gary.

  10. jocjoc jocjoc

    Si Pres Cory sabi niya, ‘As i came to power in peace, i shall leave it in peace, that is my promise to my people and my committment to God’ (or something like this). She made good with that promise. Contrary to what happened to Gloria, she became president through scheming and scamming, that has become now her living ways.

  11. Ayaw naman talagang mag-presidente si Cory. Pinilit lang siya. All throughout her term, it was other people who benefited from her power but not herself personally. Nakinabang lang ang anak niyang si Kris Aquino na dinaan ni Cory sa influence sa movie industry noon. Pinagbigyan naman at lumabas na magaling din naman artista si Kris. Iyon nga lang maagang nabuntisan ni Philip Salvador.

  12. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    Mrs. President Cory terms daming bulong brigade and kamag-anak,inc pero pagdating sa appointments, policy-making and decision-making transparent at para sa tao

    queen gloria and kingpin pidal unwanted terms daming yes mam/yes sir generals, daming trapos, daming buwaya, buwitre, hunyango at mga baboy at pagdating sa appontments, policy-making, decision makin…transactional politics, kaniya-kaniyang projects para kumita, hati-hati sila sa tongpats at kanya-kanyang taguan at takipan ng baho at hindi para sa tao..para sa sarili nila para sa pagkagumon at pagkahibang nila sa pera at kapangyarihan

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  13. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    Mrs. Aquino was not without her faults during her stint at the Malacanang. Iba lang talaga ang nagagawa ng pagkamatay. It’s so funny how Mrs. Aquino’s meekness gives her an image of propriety vis-a-vis Mrs. Arroyo’s go-getter personality. Aminin na natin, Mrs. Aquino was never a woman with conviction and enough will power.

  14. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    and oh my God. How could people be so sure that Mrs. Aquino’s going to heaven???

  15. paul paul

    sure ako pupunta si cory sa heaven..
    pero si FG and GMA will go to hell
    for telling a lie;
    and if they tell the truth…
    they will go to jail..
    that`s a promise..!!

  16. edseb edseb

    kung talagang concerned si pandak ke tita cory eh dapat umuwi na cya agad. hindi yung may mga dadaanan pa cya dun sa tate. bwiset talaga!

  17. Bukang Liwayway Bukang Liwayway

    Mrs. Arroyo’s go-getter personality – joseph ryan

    Inangkupuuuuuu!

    Uy! Meron palang isang tagapagtaguyod ang babaeng tinatawag ang sariling presidente kahit hindi hinalal ng taong bayan!

    Welkam, kaibigan.

    Sana’y mailahad mo dito ang lahat ng nagawa ng presidente mo.

    Isaisahin mo dito kung ano’ng programa ang inilatag ng presidente mo kung bakit DAPAT ay wala na kami dito sa ibayong dagat at umuwi na sa Pilipinas.

    Bigyan mo kami ng listahan ng mga naging kaunlaran ng Pilipinas mula nang siya ay MANG-AGAW ng poder at MANDAYA upang huwag mapaalis sa malakanyang.

    Ilahad mo dito ang kung ilang milyong Pilipino na ang umasenso sa kanyang programang pangkabuhayan.

    Kuwentahin mo dito kung magkano ang babayaran ng bawat isang Pilipino sa mga inutang mula sa iba’t ibang bansa at institusyong nagpapautang. Isama mo na rin ‘yung papasaning bayaran ng magiging anak at kaapuapuhan ng mga hindi pa isinisilang.

    Please naman, para maniwala akong mahusay ang presidente MO!

  18. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    joseph ryan….anumang kahinaan ni Mrs. President ay natapatan ng katapatan, malinis na paglilingkod at pagtataguyod sa pagkapantay-pantay at katarungan, sa kabilangbanda hindi ang kahinaan niya bilang lider ang naging batayan…ngunit ang kaniyang malinis na intensiyon na maglingkod ng buong katapatan para sa bayan…at huwag mong ikukumpara si Pres. Cory kay gloria…malayong-malayo

    ikaw paano ka nakakasiguro na tama at may halaga ang opinyon mo????
    sana kung wala kang magandang pahayag ay isipin mo na lang at gawin ang tama para makapunta ka sa heaven…hindi heaven na pang adik ha…

    joseph ryan..bago ka magbigay ng pahayag pag-isipan mo muna at magbalik-tanaw ka sa kasaysayan, maging matalino at hindi maging ugaling hunyango at balatkayo…

    joseph ryan…at pagdating ng panahon na maglaho ka sa lupang-ibabaw, ay tiyakin mo lamang na may nagmamahal sa iyo at mananaghoy sa iyong pagpanaw upang kahit paano ay magkaroon ka ng pagkakataong makapunta sa langit, at kung wala pagtitirik kita ng kandila ok

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  19. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    joseph ryan…mayabang ang mga pahayag mo

    wala kang karapatan ok! at wala kang alam!

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  20. Boyner Boyner

    Indeed “go-getter” ang amo ng joseph ryan (babae siya na nagpapanggap na lalake) kasi laging utos niya sa mga tirador niya tulad ni Poblador ay go get me this and get me that kaya go getter. Ano sabi niya kay Garcillano? Di ba get me a million votes. Anyway, regarding the article of Roberto Romulo, this guy should have made public about the congressmen in the entourage as having no role to play in that official visit and that they would be a burden to our Washington D.C. embassy staff. But of course, just like the rest of the cabinet ministers, he is afraid of the evil bitch. At least his dad, Carlos has balls.
    Sana pagbalik ng mga kongresists ay tanungin sila ng mga reporters kung ano ang pinag gagawa nila doon na makakabuti sa bayan.
    Sina Teves at Teodoro ay dapat din tanungin kung bakit sila pinalitan nina Alvarez at Poblador na hindi naman miyembro ng gabinete, na makasama sa pagharap kay Obama?

  21. Bukang Liwayway Bukang Liwayway

    iwatcher,

    pambihira ka! ‘yan ba ang itinuro sa iyo noon sa iskul? wala namang masama sa mga sinabi ni jr, ah?

    pati ba naman pagkamatay ay hihingin mo dahil lamang hindi mo nagustuhan ang kanyang mga pahayag?

    jr, paglabas mo diyan sa gate ng bahay kuwago sa tabi ng ilog pasig, titingin ka sa kaliwa’t kanan, hane? baka mahagip ka ng sasakyan sa pagbibilang ng perang ibinayad sa iyo para ipagtanggol dito ang maligno mong ninang.

    titingnan mo din ang iyong nilalakaran dahil baka matisod ka, bumagok ‘yang mukha mo sa bangketa, hindi mo pakikinabangan ‘yang binibilang mo. buti kung magamit sa libign mo. daming kawatan diyan sa paligid ng bahay na bato. pero mas marami ang nasa loob dahil lahat sila, kabilang ka na ay mukhang salapi, mga ganid.

    marahil nagbabasa dito ang mga direktor mo. ang inaalala ko, dahil nagampanan mo na ang ipinapapapel sa iyo, bawiin ‘yang pera mo. kunyari ay hoholdapin ka tapos ay ipapasalbeyds.

    tsk. tsk. tsk. bakit ba ang sama ng naiisip ko?

    iwatcher, bahala ka na nga kay jr.

  22. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    kaibigang bl…wala akong hinangad sa kanyang kamatayan…

    “joseph ryan…at pagdating ng panahon na maglaho ka sa lupang-ibabaw, ay tiyakin mo lamang na may nagmamahal sa iyo at mananaghoy sa iyong pagpanaw upang kahit paano ay magkaroon ka ng pagkakataong makapunta sa langit, at kung wala pagtitirik kita ng kandila ok”

    ibig kong sabihin na pag dumating ang panahon at kukunin na si joseph ryan…hindi ko sinasabing – hinihiling ko, pagdating ng takdang araw, ibig sabihin sa oras na itinakda sa kaniya…maaring mauna siya o mauna ako pero hindi ko hiniling ang kaniyang kamatayan gaya ng aking ipinahayag…masama yun di ba??? kaya nga pagdating ng panahon…ok

    siguro yung script mo ay hango sa teleserye kaibigan bl…malawak ang iyong imahinasyon sa kasasadlakan ni aka joseph ryan hehehe, ano nga bang teleserye yung napanood mo halaw sa script ng ending ni joseph ryan????
    hindi masama ang iniisip mo kaibigang bl…masyado ka lamang nadala sa kapapanood ng “tayong dalawa”

    isa lang ang tumpak dun, yung mga taong iyong tinuran na naglalagi at ayaw na ngang umalis sa malacanang ay mga utak sindikato…lahat ay gagawin para sa kanilang sariling kahibangan at kabaliwan sa pera at kapangyarihan.

    maging mapagmatyag, tuso at mapanlinlang ang malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration.

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  23. Bukang Liwayway Bukang Liwayway

    tsk. tsk. tsk.

    ikaw talaga, iwatchyou, oo. inulit pa ‘yung pagkawala ni junior remonde sa mundong ibabaw, eh!

    bakit naman napunta sa teleseryeng “silang dalawa”, eh hindi naman ako kasama doon?

    he he he heeeh.

  24. Bukang Liwayway Bukang Liwayway

    isinama pa ‘yung kanta ni aiza.

    iwatcher, fan ka ni aizang kulit (na kyut noon), ano?

  25. Bumalik ka na pala, nakaBukakang Liwayway. Ayan, tinitira mo naman ngayon si iwatcher. Let’s join the nation in mouring Cory’s death and stop bitching. Huwag mo masyadong ibuka dahil masama ang amoy mo.

  26. chi chi

    joseph ryan,

    Gloria Napakakapal has a go-getter personality?! Bwahahahaha! Yeah, in fact even the global president was “charmed” by her bitchness. She had him, as she had Bush!

    So, you are one of those so mababaw who mistook Gloria’s bitchness as strength?!

  27. Bukang Liwayway Bukang Liwayway

    chi,

    It’s just his way of defending Lola Dapangdede. For a fee.

  28. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    funny! kahit sino namang ihalal na presidente, may masasabi kayo. asa pa. Anong ginawa ni Mrs Aquino? Magdemanda ng libelo against her critics? Hello, Gringo! lol.

    and excuse me, when PGMA launch Edsa 2 to overthrow Erap’s administration, where was Cory back then? Di ba andun siya sa gitna, nakikimartsa with GMA? Tapos kamukat-mukat mo, nag-iba na naman ang ihip ng hangin. Anti-administration na naman. hay, walang katapusan!

    sobrang romanticized lang nga libing ni Cory, nakakasuka na ang kulay yellow. hindi kasalanan ni PGMA na namatay si Cory. Pero i’m sure nangangati na naman ang opposition to ride the wave that Cory’s super-hyped funeral’s generating.

    i’m just saying. kahit sinong ilagay natin sa Malakanyang. Pramis yan! 😉

    Cool lang kayo. Kung time ko, time ko na. Don’t worry. malay nyo, mauna pa kayo. 🙂

  29. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    ayan, namali pa tuloy ako ng grammar. launched* dapat yun. sorry. :))

  30. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    and yes, i’ll take a bitch over a puppet anytime.

  31. Boyner Boyner

    That’s the reason why I have no respect for this socioapth evil bitch.
    As for the article of Roberto Romulo, he or at least the DFA’s spokesman, should have made public the department’s stand on having additional entourage of congressmen in that US visit That “the congressmen have no role to play” and “all they do is encumber our embassy staff in Washington with the burden of finding things for them to do, so that they can justify their own travels to the press and their constituents.”
    I hope the newspapers and TV reporters as well as anchormen will raise this issue before these congressmen.

  32. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    joseph ryan…isa ka sa mga taong makitid ang pananaw sa mga isyu at kuntento na lamang kung ano ang kalagayan mo ngayon…nagbabago ang prinsipyo hindi dahil magulo ang kaniyang isipan o anupaman kung hindi naghahanap siya ng katotohanan at kasagutan sa kaniyang mga katanungan…

    mga katanungan na minsan di sinagot ng magaling mong gloria, mga katanungan na lalong nagpahina sa mga institusyon ng lipunan, mga katanungan na lalong nagpahati sa sambayanan, mga katanungan na lalong nagpabaon sa ating bansa sa kahirapan at kawalang pag-asa.

    tanga lang ang katulad mo na naniniwala na walang mangyayari at pare-pareho lamang ang batikos sa mga pinuno…kung ang lider ay matuwid bakit pa mag-iingay ang tao? pero kung ang lider ay tulad ni gloria na punong-puno ng balatkayo at panlilinlang…sisigaw at sisigaw ang tao para humanap ng katotohanan.

    makitid ang isipan mo kaibigan, sa halip na makuntento ka sa iyong pananaw ay kumilos ka para maging bahagi ng pagbabago ng ating bansa…pagbabago na may mangyayaring maganda para sa bayan kung tayo ay magkakaisa at di na magkakamaling pumili ng isang lider na tatayo bilang tanglaw at gabay natin tungo sa pagging isang dakilang bansa.

    gaya ng una kong sinabi…mayabang ka lang pero wala kang alam!

    magpakatotoo ka at huwag maging bulag sa katotohanan, huwag maging tanga sa mga isyu ng bayan at kumilos at makibahagi para sa pagbabago ng ating bayan.

    may pag-asa pa ang ating bansa…mawala lang sana ang mga utak-camote na gaya mo joseph ryan, pag bumaba si queen gloria sama ka na baka kailangan pa niya ng mas maraming bobong alalay.

    at kailanman di ako magiging cool sa mga taong katulad mo, malaya man ang mga pahayag mo pero malayo sa katotohanan…kulang sa kaalaman at uulitin ko

    mayabang ka lamang magpahayag pero walang alam…ang mga pahayag mo ay walang ipinagkaiba sa mga tagapagsalita ni queen gloria…nang-aasar, kulang sa atensiyon, wala sa isyu, panliligaw sa paksa at mayabang na pahayag na si queen gloria lamang ang bukod tanging pinakamagaling para sa inyo…magising ka sana sa katotohanan at huwag manatili sa mala-pantasyang mundo ni queen gloria.

    sayo na yung bitch mo…evil bitch mo at isama mo na kung saan lupalop ng mundo gusto niyong maglaho at isama mo na rin ang pamilyang ganid at kaniyang mga alipores at trapos.

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  33. philos philos

    iwatcher2010 !!! hindi mayabang … yan c J. R. NAKINABANG YAN. JEJEJEJEJE

  34. philos philos

    to iwatcher2010 !!! hindi mayabang … yan c J. R. NAKINABANG YAN. JEJEJEJEJE

  35. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    how can you be one with someone who says “jejejeje”? yuck!

    you speak of doing something for the country, as if you yourselves are in fact doing anything! pfft!

  36. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    mga kaibigan medyo halatang nagpapapansin at nagpapa-cute lang si joseph ryan kaya huwag ng patulan baka sumikat pa at sabihing magaling na rin siya parang si queen gloria na sila lang ang magaling…

    ulit-ulitin ko par maliwanag…mayabang lamang ang mga pahayag mo pero wala kang alam ok!

    ang pagkilos para sa bayan, ang pagmamahal para sa bayan, at ang mga ginagawa natin para sa bayan ay kailanman hindi natin dapat ipagyabang..kung yan ang iyong hamon di kita papatulan

    bilang pagtatapos sa isyu sa ‘yo joseph ryan…unawain mo ang mga isyu, magsaliksik ka sa katotohanan at piliting alamin ang puno’t dulo ng mga kaganapan sa ating bansa…at tanging ang kasaysayan lamang ang huhusga kung sino ang tama sa ating opinyon kung naging isang mabuting lider si Mrs. President Cory kumpara kay queen gloria mo.

    at alam mo kung bakit nag-react ang bloggers sa ellenville kasi bastos ang pahayag mo sa pagtatanong kung nakakasigurado ang sambayanan na makakapunta sa langit ang isang matuwid na lider? kawalan respeto yun at isang pahayag ng isang hambog at mistulang nagsasabing ikaw ang tama at kami ang mali…hinay-hinay sa pahayag kung ayaw mong putaktihin ng masamang salita ok

    ayusin mo na lang buhay mo para may silbi ka pa sa pamilya mo at sa bayan mo.

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  37. joseph ryan joseph ryan

    well, you didn’t answer my question. dinadaan mo sa Tagalog rhetoric na wala namang saysay. your pieces of advice for me:

    – unawain ang mga issue.
    – magsaliksik ka sa katotohanan
    – piliting alamin ang puno’t dulo ng mga kaganapan sa ating bansa

    malamang nagawa mo na ang mga iyan. so anong kasunod? did you ever do something about the issues that you understood, the truth that you researched and the root cause/s of the events in our country?

    tell me! so I will have a better perspective, and maybe, just maybe, I can do something for my country, too.

    but until then, your words are just that, words. grand-sounding but empty. so please, don’t speak as if you’re better than me.

    it’s so easy to say that you understand the issues, it’s so easy to see that Gloria is evil. but what are you doing about it?

  38. iwatcher2010 iwatcher2010

    “ang pagkilos para sa bayan, ang pagmamahal para sa bayan, at ang mga ginagawa natin para sa bayan ay kailanman hindi natin dapat ipagyabang..kung yan ang iyong hamon di kita papatulan”

    wala ka namang katanungan…ang isyu mo lamang ay ang pagkumpara kung sino ang higit na makabuluhan, yun isa ay halal at tunay na lider at yung isa ay nagpanggap na ngang lider ay nang-agaw na at nandaya pa
    at ang sumunod na isyu mo ay ang pagtatanong kung siguradong “makakarating sa langit ang isang Mrs. president Cory?” hindi ba isang maliwanag na paglapastangan ‘yon sa halip na mag-alay ka ng panalangin at respeto sa isang matuwid na lider.

    alam mo ang mga kasagutan sa mga katanungan mo at alam mo rin ang dapat mong gawin upang maging mulat sa isyu ng bansa at higit sa lahat alam mo na rin ang dapat gawin ng isang mabuting pilipino na may malasakit sa bayan…hindi ka naman siguro isang tanga upang di gawin ang nararapat at alam mong tama…

    better perspectives sa ano??? na magkaroon ka ng kaliwanagan kung paano ka higit na makakatulong sa bayan? alam mo ang kasagutan ngunit mistulang bulag ka sa katotohanan at hindi matatapos ang usapin ‘to kaibigan sapagkat magkaiba tayo ng pananaw sa mga isyu…

    at sa tamang panahon, mauunawaan mo kung bakit mas marami ang umaayaw na sa palakad ng magaling mong gloria kasama ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration

    at sa tingin ko sa iyong pagkatao ay hindi mo pa naranasan ang tunay na sakripisyo sa bansa-ang pakikiisa at pagdamay sa mga kapus-palad na pilipino, ang pagbibigay tugon sa kanilang mga pangangailangan sa abot at munting kakayahan, ang pagdamay sa mga biktima ng injustice at pagmamalabis , ang pakikipaglaban sa mga abusadong taong-gobyerno, ang pagtataguyod ng katotohanan sa kabila ng panggigipit, ang pagkagutom at pagod makatulong ka lamang sa mga samut-saring sakuna at trahedya, ang pagdamay at pag-gabay sa mga batang bilanggo na biktima ng kahirapan at kawalng oportunidad…marami kang magagawa kung gugustuhin mo at hindi na kailangan pang sabihin ng iyong kapwa…
    and yes maybe, you can do something for your country too kung magkakaroon ka lamang ng pakialam sa iyong kapwa pilipino.

    siguro sa ngayon ay ayusin mo na lang buhay mo para magkaroon ka ng silbi sa pamilya mo at sa bayan mo.
    at kung handa ka na at ang sarili mo na magkaroon ng “pakialam” sa kapwa mo, kilos na kaibigan..maraming dapat gawin para sa bansa at hinihintay lamang ang tugon mo at welcome na welcome ka dahil kailangan ang mas maraming pilipino na may pakialam at pagmamahal sa kapwa niya.

    NO TO TRAPOS 2010!

  39. greyy greyy

    nice one der iwatcher!!

  40. Boyner Boyner

    Joseph Ryan: “…and maybe, just maybe I can do something for my country too.”
    Kita niyo, umamin na kaya ‘wag nang patulan.

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