Malacanang’s reactions:: Never did GMA think of declaring martial law
Cruz urges soldiers to stay loyal to Constitution
By Philip Tubeza
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Warning about a “disturbing pattern” showing that the Arroyo administration will try to perpetuate itself in power, former Defense Secretary Avelino Cruz Jr. Wednesday urged soldiers to defy “patently unlawful orders” for partisan political ends and for subverting the Constitution.
Speaking at a forum of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines (IBP) in Pasig City, Cruz accused President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo of masterminding moves in Congress to amend the Constitution without the Senate’s consent.
Cruz, who resigned as defense secretary on Nov. 5, 2006, said he was confident that any attempt to usurp power would fail, but even a failed attempt could result in “bloodshed” and other devastating consequences for the country.
“I fear more for the consequences that our nation will have to suffer for the failed ambitions of a powerful few,” Cruz said at the forum.
“It is for this reason that I renew my call to our professional men and women in uniform to remain faithful to the flag and the Constitution and to disobey patently unlawful orders that only serve selfish political ends,” he added.
The forum, which had the theme “Martial (Rule of) Law,” was organized by the IBP, the Parish Pastoral Council for Responsible Voting, and the Legal Network for Truthful Elections (Lente).
Prime mover
Cruz said he had reason to believe that, like in the failed signature campaign in 2006 to amend the Charter, Ms Arroyo was the prime mover of the attempt to revise the Constitution aimed at extending her stay in power beyond her constitutional term.
Ms Arroyo’s allies in the House of Representatives passed on June 2 a resolution seeking to set up a constituent assembly (Con-ass), a move that the opposition said would pave the way for Ms Arroyo to stay in power beyond 2010.
The approval of House Resolution No. 1109 empowered Congress to convene itself into a Con-ass in which members of the House and the Senate would vote jointly—not separately—to amend the Constitution.
Senators said this would render the upper chamber useless because the larger House membership could override any Senate objections to proposed amendments.
Proponents of Charter change want a shift to the parliamentary form of government, a setup that would allow Ms Arroyo to run for a seat in her district in Pampanga province and become prime minister, according to the opposition.
PMA ’78 honorary member
Cruz warned that members of the Philippine Military Academy Class of 1978, of which Ms Arroyo is an honorary member, were in key leadership positions in both the military and police as the tenure of key officers he knew to be “loyal to the Constitution” was cut short and given ambassadorial posts.
“The mandatory retirement age for the military and the police is 56 years old. Recently, the tenure of the AFP (Armed Forces of the Philippines) chief of staff, Gen. Alexander Yano, who belongs to PMA Class of 1976, was cut short by 44 days as he was appointed as ambassador to Brunei,” Cruz said.
“I have known General Yano as a professional soldier whose loyalty is with the Constitution,” he added.
Cruz noted that the tenure of Lt. Gen. Cardoso Luna (PMA Class of 1975) as AFP vice chief of staff “was likewise cut short with his appointment as ambassador to the Netherlands.”
“Lieutenant General Luna, a graduate of Wharton, is also a professional soldier whose loyalty is to the Constitution,” the former defense secretary said.
Rafael Ileto
These developments bring to mind Lt. Gen. Rafael Ileto, then AFP vice chief of staff, who opposed the imposition of martial law, Cruz said.
“(He) was appointed by President Marcos as ambassador to Iran before his date of retirement from the military service,” he added.
Cruz said that “if history and tradition would be followed,” the current AFP chief of staff, Gen. Victor Ibrado, should remain in his post until he reaches the age of 56 on March 10, 2010.
“Given the succeeding election period, his stay should normally be extended such (that) he will leave his post co-terminus with his Commander in Chief on June 30, 2010,” Cruz said.
‘Ruling class’
But the former defense chief also noted that members of PMA Class of 1978 were already “occupying key leadership positions” in the police and military organizations.
“Will she cut short the term of General Ibrado before the 2010 elections and pave the way for the rise of PMA Class of 1978 as the ruling class to run the security apparatus to secure the 2010 elections?” Cruz asked.
Asked after the forum if he meant that members of PMA Class of 1978 were more loyal to Ms Arroyo than to the Constitution, Cruz said what he meant was that Ms Arroyo was “comfortable” with these officers.
Cruz also noted that there were at least 50 retired military generals and police officials occupying key positions in the Arroyo administration.
“Is this indicative of an administration consolidating its grip on our country’s security apparatus?” he asked.
Cruz also seconded former Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr.’s claim that the Arroyo administration tried to impose emergency rule and get Washington’s support in late 2005 at the height of the “Hello Garci” controversy.
Confirms JDV’s account
“What I can say is that indeed Speaker Joe de Venecia has intimate knowledge of these events. I have also heard our former Ambassador to the United States Alberto del Rosario narrate on television a similar version of events taking place in the last quarter of 2005. I have no reason to doubt the veracity of his narration,” Cruz said.
He said there were similarities between the national situation today and that in 1972 when President Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law.
“In the early 1970s, a constitutional convention was doing its work under a president whose term was about to end … a communist conspiracy was supposed to be in the works to seize power … pockets of violence erupted in the capital … the Supreme Court validated the illegal acts of the chief executive. Martial law was eventually declared,” Cruz said.
“In 2009, the House of Representatives is trying to convene a constitutional assembly after a President whose term is about to end. The Supreme Court will soon have all its justices appointed by one president. Bombs are planted in Metro Manila and bombs explode in Mindanao, killing scores of innocent civilians,” he said.
Revolutionary government
Cruz also noted that National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales, whom he described as a “loyal ally” of the President, had floated the idea of Ms Arroyo leading a transition to a revolutionary government.
“One thing I know is that Bert Gonzales has survived in this administration by making sure that he does not propose anything without the prior approval of President Arroyo,” he said.
The former defense chief said he was “concerned” that the original majority of eight Supreme Court justices who nullified the people’s initiative to amend the Constitution in 2006 was now down to “just three.”
“In their place, President Arroyo has already appointed new Supreme Court justices. She is poised to appoint three more before this year is over,” he said.
Cruz warned that a Supreme Court decision legitimizing any attempt of Ms Arroyo to remain in power would trigger another people power uprising.
Lull before storm
Cruz said that Ms Arroyo might attempt to remain in power out of fear that she and her husband would be prosecuted once she was out of power, as promised by leading presidential aspirants.
Pointing out that Ms Arroyo had broken her vow on the “solemn occasion of Rizal Day” that she would not run for president in the 2004 elections, Cruz cast doubts on her statement in Davao on July 18 that “there will be elections in 2010.”
“Can we trust her word this time? Or is the country again being lulled into complacency? Is she creating the lull before the storm?” he said.
Too disturbed
Cruz said he came out with the speech because he was “too disturbed” with what was happening in the country.
His resignation as defense secretary in November 2006 was largely considered a result of Malacañang’s falling out with The Firm—the law office that Cruz helped establish in 1980—on the issue of Charter change.
Two weeks before Cruz resigned, the Supreme Court dismissed the Malacañang-backed people’s initiative petition to amend the Constitution in preparation for a shift to a unicameral-parliamentary system of government.
The decision, which described the petition as “a grand deception,” was penned by Associate Justice Antonio Carpio, founding partner of the former Carpio, Villaraza & Cruz law firm and an Arroyo appointee.
Cruz, who was named Ms Arroyo’s chief presidential legal counsel in 2001, also publicly lambasted the petition as a legally foolish idea.
Bakit ngayon lang nagsalita si Nonong? Bakit noon eh Ngongo Cruz siya? Anyway, may this be the start of Malacanang officials, former and current, to withdraw their support from GMA.
Nonong served the boobuwit from 2001 to 2006. He should know how the evil woman works. He also knows the mafia gang. His fears are for real!
GMA: “I shall stay married to the country!”
Dodong, si Nonong and nag-resign, hindi siya tinanggal. And since the falling out, Nonong had always been outspoken against the bitch, pretty much like the Hyatt 10. Makapal lang talaga ang mukha ni boobuwit at dedma lang siya!
Sorry but I don’t completely trust those former officials of GMA. Ke nag-resign o tinanggal, basta naging tuta ni Gloria di dapat pagkatiwalaan.
sabi nga sa “Loyalty Pledge”…
Nabulabog na ang Malakanyang at nagkukumahog sa kaka-deny at sinisiraan pa si Nonong Cruz! Ang hindi yata alam ng Malakanyang eh mas respetado si Nonong at may kredibilidad kaysa sa kanila…nakakahiyan kayo, kapit tuko!
Ito naman kaya?
Fiscal blowout to weaken peso to 50 to $1 — study
http://tribune.net.ph/20090723/business/20090723bus1.html
Huwag nating isaisantabi’t kalilimutan na ang isang ugat ng ligalig o kaguluhan ay ang mahinang ekonomiyang pinagtatakpang ng kasinungalingan.
Matagal na ito, halos sampung taon na. Pikit mata lamang tinatanggap ng sambayanang Pilipino lalo na ‘yung hindi gustong ibaling o itanaw sa malayo ang paningin at nagkakasya na lamang sa pagmamasid sa nunal at pekeng dodo ni Lola Dapangdede.
Bakit ngayon lang nagsalita si Nonong?
Korek Dodong…noong kakutsaba pa siya ng rehime, tameme si Nonong? Ngayong waepek na siya kay gloria ang dami niyang salita, ibig sabihin wala na siya sa payroll?
About doon sa PMA class’78, kesihoda na hawak nila ang halos sensitive position ng Armed Forces of Pidalismo…wla rin yang magagawa kung ang junior officers ang magpapasya ng kanilang kapalaran.
Ang karamihan sa mga iyan e general de mesa, nawa ang junior officers ang siya nating pag-asa sapagka’t sila ang may command sa mga sarhento poponggay at sundalong kanin.
Sige pa Nong…wag kang titigil na magdoremi sapagka’t talos ng buong bayan na marami kang alam sa ka ek-ekan ng rehime.
It’s your time na magkwento sa mga diabolic plans ng rehime against the Filipino people at kahit papaano e mabawasan yong atraso mo sa taong-bayan dahil sa naging parte ka ng gloria regime.
Huli man daw at papabor ito sa Masang Pilipino…welcome ang iyong pagkanta at be sure na may substance yong paghabi mo ng mga nota or else sa iyo ito ibabalik ng Pinoy?
May pobia na kasi ang Pinoy kaya mahirap nang papaniwalain sa mga bukang-bibig ng mga peste at pahirap sa bayan. Mas favor pa sa Pinoy yong gawin nýo ang tama at makatwiran…at shutup yaong mouth na puno ng venom?
Matagal na ito, halos sampung taon na.
Ang bilis ng panahon Bukang Liwayway…aabutin na tayo ng takip-silim at heto wala pang napagkakasunduan ang Pinoy kung papaano lulutasin o tatapusin ang kawalanghiyaan ng rehime.
Walang inatupag kundi magbalitaktakan ng katwiran at magsisihan sa mga pahirap at pasakit ng rehime, kundi ito uupuan ng lahat ng sektor sa ating lipunan either kotra o pabor sa rehime…walang mangyayari sa ating bayan.
Dapat tayong Pinoy…ang atupagin nating lahat yaong para sa kapakanan ng bayan at kapwa-Pinoy, masyado kasing polluted ang kukote ng Pinoy sa pamumulitika at ayaw magsipagtrabaho ng maayos.
Kapag mali e di wrong so dapat bigyan ng leksyon ng mangatuto…ang hirap ang daming kunsintidor sa ating lipunan.
Anu ba naman yong itama natin ang mali at papurihan natin yong gumagawa ng tama sang-ayon sa katotohanan ng naturalesa.
sa mga sinabi at tinuran ni atty nonong cruz..ito ay babala lamang at paalala ng mga posibleng mangyari pag hindi nagkaisa ang masang pilipino sa isa na namang malaking panlilinlang ng malacanang mafia at arroyo corrupt-poration.
in fairness, naging epektibong defense chief si nonong cruz at hindi sumangayon sa maruming kalakaran sa afp noong panahon iyon, at hindi naman sa ipinagtatanggol ko ang isang respetadong mamang ito dahil “inner circle” lamang ni queen gloria at kingpin pidal ang nakakaalam sa kanilang mga kalokohan kaya noong panahon iyon ay hati ang mga miyembro ng malacanang cabinet dahil sa pulitika at palakasan…at diyan lumutang kung gaano katuso ang little president na sumipa sa mga “matitinong cabinet members” ni queen gloria kaya naiwan puro gahaman at certified magnanakaw na cabinet sepseptaries at deputy sepseptaries.
hyatt 10 cabinet secretaries ay biktima lamang ng maruming sistema ng pamamalakad ni gloria na hindi nakatiis sa mga pagsasamantala na bukong buko na ay tumatanggi pa at lumulusot pa.
maging mapagmatyag at kumilos kung kinakailangan, tuso at suwapang ang kalaban at hindi aatras manaig lamang ang maitim na balakin.
may hangganan din ang lahat ng kahibangan.
NO TO TRAPOS 2010
NO TO GLORIA AND FAMILY!
NO TO MALACANANG MAFIA AT ARROYO CORRUPT-PORATION!
“Defy unlawful orders”?
Damn quite right too!
Why didn’t they think of that in 2001 before they violated the Constitution and unseated a duly elected president?
“Defy unlawful orders”?
There’s no question that that’s the only legally and morally correct thing to do!
“Defy unlawful orders!” says Cruz…
I wonder why he’s now on the attack (because this entire rhetoric is an attack on Gloria and her banana republican military.)
At the same time, what he says is quite perplexing…
Cruz, who resigned as defense secretary on Nov. 5, 2006, said he was confident that any attempt to usurp power would fail, but even a failed attempt could result in “bloodshed” and other devastating consequences for the country.
Is he warning the likes of Querubin, Lim and the incarcerated officers?
I would like to know where Cruz stands…
huli man daw at magaling ay naihahabol din.
I would like to know where Cruz stands…
AdeBrux,
Standing along to nowhere? He is a piece of shit…why only now? 2010 is now approaching and i’m not convince in his rhetoric propaganda words?
Ngayon pa!
may hangganan din ang lahat ng kahibangan?
Sinabi mo pa iwatcher2010, may nakaligtaan ka at idagdag ko ha if you don’t mind igan.
NO to ingratang Pinoy (i mean; Pinoy na nagbebenta ng boto, walang paninindigan sa sarili at paki sa lipunan/kapwa-Pinoy)
Yon lang po!
“Ms Arroyo was the prime mover of the attempt to revise the Constitution aimed at extending her stay in power beyond her *constitutional* term.”
The saddest part is, she never had any “constitutional term” to begin with. She grabbed the seat of power, no thanks to Esperon. Then she cheated her way the second time around. No thanks to Esperon, again.
Ergo, it is not beyond GMA to do anything outside of what is lawful to extend her bogus presidency. If the rumor is to be believed, she admitted it herself, “I am beyond shame.”
kaibigang balweg…di mo masisisi ang mga ingratang pinoy na iyong tinuran sapagkat biktima sila ng sistema ng pulitika sa ating bansa – mga pulitikong lalong ibinaon sa kahirapan ang mga nasasakupan, mga pulitikong ginawang mangmang ang mga mamamayan upang maging sunod-sunuran sa kanilang mga kumpas, mga pulitikong ninais na maging miserable ang buhay ni juan dela cruz para sa kanilang sariling pakinabangan.
malalim ang ugat ng problema kung bakit nagkaroon ng “ingratang pinoy” pero ang ingratang pinoy din ang magbabago ng kanilang kapalaran, naging bahagi rin tayo ng problema ng ingratang pinoy dahil di natin pagkibo, pagsasawalang bahala sa kanilangmga daing, pagiging makasarili at walang kusang pagkilos para maiahon ang “ingratang pinoy”
ang simula ay ngayon na kaibigan, sa tulong mo at sa sama-sama nating pagkilos ay iaangat natin ang kamalayan ng mga ingratang pinoy na magdesisyon para sa kanilang kinabukasan…iisa lamang ang bansa natin, magagaling ang lahi natin at mayaman ang ating bansa sa lahat ng bagay ngunit dahil sa mga trapos na mistulang buwaya, buwitre at hunyango na sanhi ng abang kalagayan ng ating bansa at mamamayan na ninais na maging ingratang pinoy ang higit na nakakarami para sa kanilang kahibangan.
may pag-asa pa kaibigang balweg…magkakasalaungat man ang opinyon natin sa mga isyu ng bansa at sa pagpili ng tunay at matuwid na lider ay iisa lamang ang ating hangarin para sa ating bansa…para sa kinabukasan ng ating mga anak at susunod na salinlahi.
magkaisa lamang tayo sa tunay na layunin para sa bansa at maging tunay na boses ng mga pilipino ang manaig sa susunod na election…dun tayo magsisimula at pilit na buburahin ang ingratang pinoy na tag-uri.
tuso at ganid ang kalaban, ang ma pahayag ni atty nonong cruz ay babala lamang na maging mapagmatyag at kumilos kung kinakailangan…kung huli man ang babala, maging gabay natin sa paglaban sa abusadong rehimen.
SONA 2009???? lies, self-glorification, padded and tampered statistics and unreal state of the nation.
yun ang hamon…paano natin iparating sa mas maraming pilipino na puro panlilinlang ang rehimen ni queen gloria at kingpin pidal.
NO TO TRAPOS 2010!
I guess all the soldiers are happy with the president. They get paid for standing behind the president. They dont know the constitution.
kaibigang valdemar…yung mga loyal generals lang ni queen gloria at kingpin pidal
sa dami ng pera ng mga damuho,puro gustong maging public servants…at sa sobrang dami nga ng pera – me-yor at tongresmen agad.
– sa manila mayoralty lang mahina php100M ang gagastusin
– sa taguig mayoralty, mabigat din ang labanan pero php70-php100 din ang usapan dito
– tongresmen ng capiz, batangas, pangasinan, laguna and etc php50m ang bala mo dapat para makapangampanya ng may “laban”
saan nila kukunin ang ganitong kalaking pera????? contribution from friends and volunteers????
God save our country pag naupo ang lahat ng mga future trapos na ‘to….
may nasagap na balita ang kapitbahay kong tricycle driver, isang govt official (retired military) na gusto maging pulitiko eh yung pera daw nakakahon at nakatago lang sa bahay, na minsang napagkamalang basura ng ipinadala sa bahay na bitbit ng mga staff…akala mga lumang files, folders at records lang ng nasabing opisyal na pinauwi sa bahay,pero aksidenteng may butas yung kahon at laging gulat ng staff puro pera ang laman.
handang handa na nga sa 2010 eleksiyon, marami ng ipon ang damuho…sana mabulok o kaya masunog yung tinatagong pera para mapahiya at di na makatakbo sa minimithing posisyon.
NO TO TRAPOS 2010!
“Cruz, who resigned as defense secretary on Nov. 5, 2006, said he was confident that any attempt to usurp power would fail, but even a failed attempt could result in “bloodshed” and other devastating consequences for the country.
Is he warning the likes of Querubin, Lim and the incarcerated officers?
I would like to know where Cruz stands… – Anna
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Yeah, which side is he on?
Naguguluhan ako sa statement na ‘yan ni Cruz. Help!
I agree with everyone that Cruz had been a loyal servant of the boobuwit, even coming in at the time when she ousted Erap, the duly elected president. Anyone who served and continue to serve under this illegitimate leader must be out of their minds. But I can forgive some of them and Nonong is one of those I can believe in again. Si tengang daga? I will never believe this ever corrupt tongressman and a “speaker” for the boobuwit and the tabako who is likewise a corrupt leader too. No matter what tengang daga does, there will never be any redemption for him. But Nonong, I would still listen to him. He knows the “inner circle”. he knows how vicious they are. He was there when the boobuwit mandated 1017 and that was when he left them. Hindi pa rin halang ang sikmura niya.
Anna, I hope the evil forces will not use the incarcerated officers anymore. Lim and Querubin may still be in the service but they have already reset their goals. They now want to serve the people outside of their BOX. In the military, you follow orders, illegal as it may be, you must follow the chain of command. If those on top of the chain are all ROTTEN, will one be proud to follow their orders? The upright officers would rather be jailed than follow the ROTTEN bosses. Since Lim and Querubin have a burning desire to continue working for the people, being in politics will allow them to continue fighting for the people.
Nonong should also know that Lim and Querubin were used to promulgate the 1017 so this evil boobuwit could put her enemies behind bars. Did she succeed? I do not think so. Satur and the other congressmen are still in congress. Ang naikulong lang niya ay sila Lim, Querubin et all just because they are soldiers and they are within a “BOX”. They can not move or say anything unless “ordered”. They are in the chain of command. Will any upright officer follow this rotten leader? Only those she can bribe( with money and position) will follow her rotten orders.
Si JPE(Enrile) ang hindi ko alam kung kanino. One day he says that no other president is better that the boobuwit and then the next day he exalts Erap. Lagari at balimbing pa! Nakakatakot itong isang ito.
JPE? Laos at panis na yan.
When will Gibo have the same stand as Nonong? In the surveys for presidentiables, he is not even inching up a bit. Baka sakali mamahalin siya ng mga tao kung hindi niya susuportahan ang “coup me” o “transition government ” o “senate less con-ass”. Gising Gibo bago ka mapunta sa pansitan!
Etong si Cojuangco ay looking smart … puwede sana … pero ASO siya ni Glorya.
PSB,
Re: “In the military, you follow orders, illegal as it may be, you must follow the chain of command.”
True, in the military, you obey (or follow) orders, follow and respect the chain of command but beg to disgress, in the military, difficult as it may seem, officers who issue unlawful or illegal officers are expected to be disobeyed. In other words — the buck stops there. Those who follow or obey illegal or unlawful orders face sanctions, court martials and are meted punishments. This is one of the purposes of court martials — not only to try those who wilfully commit acts contrary to the military code but also to try those members of the military who issue unlawful orders as well as those who follow and obey these unlawful and illegal orders. And when they are found guilty, they are meted punishments.
Best example is junior officers who obeyed orders from their commanders and generals to mutiny with an aim to launch a coup d’état and topple Charles de Gaulle, president of the French Republic. They were tried, found guilty and meted the most severe punishments. No matter how noble their intention was and their ideals (the belief that Algeria should remain French and not be granted their independence), these junior and mid-level officers were tried and punished for having obeyed unlawful and illegal orders. The generals who issued those orders were meted the capital punishment (Charles de Gaulle commuted the sentece of some of them to life imprisonment.)
Another example of unlawful order that can and must be disobeyed is obeying the order of a commander to kill civilians as in the case of the My Lai massacre. Commander and subalterns faced the most stern punishment for this unlawful and illegal exercise.
So, it is not true that there are no excceptions with regard to full obedience to military orders. Illegal and unlawful orders must be disobeyed. Full stop. Military honour and traditions demand it.
The toppling of Estrada with the help of the military’s senior members while impeachment was going on serves as an excellent illustration of how low our military has gone and why illegal and unlawful orders should be disobeyed.
Members of the rank and file who obeyed the orders of their commanders to mutiny against a duly elected president of the republic while a legal and due process was going on, i.e., impeachment, committed a most serious crime. They shouldn’t have obeyed such illegal orders and should have stuck to their mandate of protecting the Republic and defending the seat of presidential power. The question of whether Erap deserves to be toppled or not is neither here nor ther — the issue is unlawful military orders MUST BE DISOBEYED… and those who issue them have no business doing it. They are military criminals in the fullest sense of the term.
What the Philippine military did in 2001, meaning when they obeyed unlawful orders, plunged our country, particularly at a time when democracy was in full motion, in the most horrendous chaos, the result being that the nation was left in moral and legal limbo.
Anna, it is very unfortunate that the Philippines has a mestizo chain of command. How can one possibly follow the chain of command of a super corrupt leadersship?
Re: “How can one possibly follow the chain of command of a super corrupt leadersship?”
PSB,
Well, there’s no question but it is possible to do it even under a ‘super corrupt leadership’ but the result is what we see today… This is why, it is important to break the myth that military orders must be obeyed blindly or without exception. We must begin at the beginning, i.e., instill in our military rank and file a sense of honour and integrity so so that these unlawful or illegal orders are minimised.
When members of the military start to toy with the idea of obeying unlawful orders, they create a crack in the institution and this crack makes that institution wobbly. When obedience to unlawful orders become a habit — the military chain of command ceases to become effective because they, the commanders have to resort to intimidation, threats and coercion to be obeyed and when that happens, your military begins its descent to hell.
Sadly, this is where our military is at today — in hell. Inefficient and unprofessional!
Enrile,Ramos started breaking the “chain of command”. Honasan followed. Reyes is enjoying his bounties by going through the same route. And now the bitch says, let us make the military professional by isolating from politics. MY ASS!
“Never did GMA think of declaring martial law”
Oh, really? What did she declare then on February 2006, right after the standoff at the Marines’ HQ in Fort Boni and the EDSA march where opposition and leftist leaders where arrested? What really is PP1017?
Let’s review the text.
Now here’s Marcos’ Proclamation 1081
We are not morons who would believe that PP1017 was not martial law because IT IS! They couldn’t even come up with original text declaring it thay had to copy Proclamation 1081.
“Never did GMA think of declaring martial law” – Malacanang
F…’em! Walanghiya, harapan kung magsinungaling!
yon pala “never in her mind did she think of declaring martial law” baka mamya tayo pa ang sisihin for corrupting her mind..and ibinigyan siya ng idea…
Sorry, off topic:
Mancao claims he reported directly to Erap
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/167970/Mancao-claims-he-reported-directly-to-Erap
Stupid, gago, tanga at bobo lang maniniwala dito. Ang nakakainis lang, kahit katangahan ang script, pinipilit… makpag demoralize lang… desparado talga, pakapalan! Palibhasa kasi kulelat na sa survey si Kabayad at halos nangunguna na ulit si Erap. Hindi na siguro mkatulog ang mga demonyo…
Enrile won’t agree to have Martial Law! Aba, mawawala chance nyang maging presidente pag No-El or nationwide failure of election. Tama ba? Senate President ang magiging acting President sa ganitong situation?
We are not morons who would believe that PP1017 was not martial law because IT IS! – Tongue
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The Supreme Court made a hybrid decision regarding this issue and I completely disagree with it. The declaration (PP1017) was constitutional but the execution was not, meaning it was unlawful and illegal.
So, when Nonong Cruz told the AFP to defy unlawful orders, I doubt if the soldiers/police can know the difference. The Supreme Court made a distinction between the declaration(constitutional) and the order (unconstitutional) of GMA to her subalterns.
If this issue needed the interpretation/decision of the (supposed to be) brilliant legal minds of the Supreme Court justices, can you just imagine the dilemma of the soldiers/police on the ground on whether to obey or disobey their superiors on the grounds that such order is constitutional or unconstitutional.
JPE?
Dakilang labandero din ‘yan! May lahing tipaklong. Mas masahol pa sa salot.
Mula noong panahon ni Pangulong Marcos, gaano kataas ang kanyang itinalon? Matapos mabusog sa mga dinapuan o di kaya’y mapaso dahil walang pakikinabangan, saan saan siya nagpalipat lipat?
Walang masama, walang mabuti sa kanya. Basta’t may pakinabang at ligtas, doon siya. Pag tumagilid, babay na!
Erap strong contender for the presidency — JPE
By Angie M. Rosales
07/24/2009
Deposed President Joseph Estrada, who is certain to take another crack at the presidency next year, will give other aspirants for the presidency a run for their money.
This was what Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile said yesterday, as he spoke with certainty that Estrada was taking another stab at the highest post in the land in the elections next year……
http://tribune.net.ph/nation/20090724nat1.html
Saan at kanino ka ba talaga, Tatang?
Arroyo allies gang up on Cruz over remarks
Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile yesterday asked former Defense Secretary Avelino “Nonong” Cruz to clarify his call for soldiers to “disobey patently unlawful orders that serve selfish ends, in apparent referral to purported plans to form a junta-like government,” since Enrile said it may imply a call for a mutiny…….
….He likewise questioned Cruz’s motivation, saying that during times of crisis, “Cruz was made chairman of several agencies, but he was already against us. So it is hard to trust a guy like him.”
“I would like to beg for clarification. What is considered an unlawful order? Exercise of the powers of the President under the Commander in Chief provision? Who is the soldier or officer who can question that? Only the Supreme Court can question that,” Enrile said…….
http://tribune.net.ph/headlines/20090724hed6.html
Ibig palang sabihin ni Tandang Juan, LEGAL at HINALAL na presidente si Lola Dodolittle?
Tanga ba siya? Bulag? Gago? Utuuto? O nagtatangatangahan lamang sa gitna ng naghuhumiyaw na katotohanang ILLEGAL lahat ng utos ni gloria dahil hindi siya tunay na pangulo ng bansa?
Tama nga. Isa siyang tipaklong!
You should have heard JPE yesterday when he said that boobuwit is the best president so far, post Marcos. Now it looks like he is also supporting Erap. Namamangka sa dalawang ilog ang tipaklong!
Paki sagot tanong ko sa taas… tama ba? may possibility ng maging acting president si JPE kapag NO-EL or failure of election… hindi natin alam, baka my niluluto silang ganitong scenario… ito lang ang nkikita kong logical reason kung bakit iba ang tono ni Ramos kay Gloria to think na nag-merge na ang LAKAS-KAMPI
But the former defense chief also noted that members of PMA Class of 1978 were already “occupying key leadership positions” in the police and military organizations.
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it doesn’t matter. Kahit 1 batallion PMA-78 generals pa ilagay nila sa key position. i believe na hindi nman lahat yan kasing sama ni esperon at ebdane at si Razon na ndamay lang. sumasakay lang sa issue karamihan dyan, nakikiramdam.
Pagnagkaron ba ng another rally dito sa ayala o edsa, mabobomba ba nila? i don’t think so. i dont believe na kayang gawin yan even ng class 78 Generals.
I agree with Nonong, hindi magtatagumpay ang evilbitch pero may possibilty na dadanak ng dugo. Desperadong heneral lang ang susunod sa demonyo.
Paki sagot tanong ko sa taas… tama ba? may possibility ng maging acting president si JPE kapag NO-EL or failure of election – perl
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Mahabang usapin ang sagot sa tanong mo. Maraming issues ang lulutang at di maiiwasan ang gulo.
Kung magkakaroon ng failure of election or no-election hindi pwedeng mag-assume ng presidency si JPE bilang Senate president dahil tapos na ang kanyang mandate pagdating ng June 30, 2010. Si GMA, Noli, JPE, Nograles lahat sila hanggang June 30, 2010 lang ang mandate, kaya di maiiwasan ang gulo.
salamat mabini. Gulo nga. At ang Chief justice, sino? matatapos na din term ni Chief Justice Puno…
The Senate President takes over, kapag No El. Totoong tapos na ang term ni JPE. Pero kung mag halalan sa Senado bago May 2010, yung bagong Senate President ang puwedeng mag-takeover.
Ngayon kung si Lacson ang mahalal na Senate President, talagang no el – no eluding the law ang Glue. Puwede rin si Trillanes. Nakupo, no erections na niyan si Baboy.
Puwede ring shortcut to the presidency, kung ang mahalal na senate president ay si Chiz or Loren.
But it cuts both ways, dahil puwede ring mahalal si Honasan o si Zubiri.
“But it cuts both ways, dahil puwede ring mahalal si Honasan o si Zubiri.”
Ngeeek!
Maniwala tayo kay Nonong Cruz. We get the best advice from the worst persons.
Ang nasa rank and file ng AFP at PNP ay hindi puedeng umayaw sa utos kahit mali o labag sa batas. Ako nga walang kasalanan 2 beses na nasuspinde sa 1 kaso na hanggang sa ngayon ay naka pending pa na napolcom ganyan kagaling ang sistema ginawang torpe ang mga pulis at sundalo para maging sunod-sunuran lang.
Tama ka Ka Bayong, selective ang batas sa Pinas….may pinapaburan?
Ang hanay ang AFP/PNP masyadong malakas ang pulitika diyan, kapag nakapwesto na e feeling untouchable. Ang nakakaawa e yaong mga rank & file na kawal at kapulisan, nagiging sunud-sunuran sa mga tiwaling opisyal? Korek…
Alam mo i have 2 brothers in-law mga pulis ito at pinag bumbero na lang para maiwas sa impluwensiya ng hodlums in uniform.
Ginagamit lang kayo ng mga kurap na yan lalo na pag nakaroon na ng ranggo o pwesto, di naman natin nilalahat at still marami pa din na law abiding Kapulisan.
Away kasi ng uncle nilang General sa pulis force na mapasama sila sa mga tiwaling pulis-patola. Hayon naging productive sila at malaki pa ang naitutulong nilaq sa pamayanan at naging taga-pamatay sunog.
taxj – July 24, 2009 8:04 pm
Maniwala tayo kay Nonong Cruz. We get the best advice from the worst persons?
Well, Igan Taxj…wala tayong tulak-kabigin kundi pakinggan ito either maykatotohanan man o wala? Let’s face the music…basta maingat tayong lahat sa ikinikilos ng rehime.
Hangga’t ang master of all trickery e nakasuporta pa kay gloria…mag-ingat ang Pinoy sapagka’t psywar strategy ang ginagamit nila sa ating mga Pinoy.
Kung sa mga mercenary pa e covert-action ang kanilang pamamaraan sa pakikidigma.
Tanga ba siya? Bulag? Gago? Utuuto? O nagtatangatangahan lamang sa gitna ng naghuhumiyaw na katotohanang ILLEGAL lahat ng utos ni gloria dahil hindi siya tunay na pangulo ng bansa?———-bukang liwayway
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All of the above !!
“I would like to beg for clarification. What is considered an unlawful order? Exercise of the powers of the President under the Commander in Chief provision? Who is the soldier or officer who can question that? Only the Supreme Court can question that,”——– JPE
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What president ? President who ? Sa dahilang walang mandate si gloria sa pagiging ano man ang tawag niya sa sarili niya ngayon (ma-puwera siguro as KUMANDER-IN CHEAT), lahat nang utos niya ay considered as “UNLAWFUL ORDERS”, plain and simple. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
But if a President, the secretary of defense, or the Chief of Staff, or the commanding generals of the various services issue orders ACCORDING TO THEIR AUTHORITY, who is this officer who will say no, that’s illegal? So, the term “unlawful orders” must be clearly defined,” ————-JPE
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What “AUTHORITY” is Enrile talking about ? Since gloria never had the legal mandate to govern, strictly speaking, she and her appointed dependent, este, defence secretary and cheat-of-stop never had that power of command. She had imposed herself on the people through her deceit. If all provisions in our present constitution were followed to the hilt, this question of “authority” as Enrile puts it, will not even be a question put forth in stupidity.
itong si enrile ay matandang hukluban na.kahit sa home for the aged ay hindi na tatanggapin iyan.
Numero unong balimbing iyan si Enrile. Kampi kay Bansot pero kampi din kay Erap.
Cruz warned that a Supreme Court decision legitimizing any attempt of Ms Arroyo to remain in power would trigger another people power uprising.
That’s quite a warning to the Supreme Court justices. They will bear the brunt of the people’s wrath should an uprising occur.
I still find it hard to believe that these SC justices would give in to her wishes on a point where a big big majority of the public says they don’t want Gloria to stay in power.
Or am I just trying to convince myself?
As for Enrile, I trust him… to be a political turncoat.
He’s a political weathervane, too. He knows where the wind is blowing.
So now he’s siding up to Erap again.
As for Enrile, I trust him… to be a political turncoat.
Phil Cruz, ang galing mo naman bumasa ng guhit ng palad…Korek, Sen. Enrile is a professional politician, he knows how to deal with different people either kontra o pabor?
Ika nga, sa pula o sa puti…marami na ang katulad niya like Brenda, Pimentel, et. al.
Talagang wala sa pagtino ang bayan natin, kailangan mapalitan na sila ng Magdalo o Magdala ng new breeds of nationalistic leaders para tumino ang Pinas.
Numero unong balimbing iyan si Enrile. Kampi kay Bansot pero kampi din kay Erap?
Ang dami nila LG, nagkalat yan sa Senado, Tongreso, Malacanang, et. al. Kita mo naman, palubog na ang Pinas at naghihikahos ang maraming Pinoy?
Well, ito ang gustong maging kapalaran ng maraming botateng Pinoy…so wala tayong magagawa, kundi magsintimyento de asukal?
Kung idadaan naman sa panggugulang e lalong pangit tingnan, tulad ng ginawa nina gloria and her cohorts. Di pa nakuntento sa EDSA 2 at heto idinaan pa sa hello garci…pag nagkataon cybergarci ang tatapos sa ating kapalaran?
But I assure you that Enrile is more loyal to Erap than that Evil Bitch.
Enrile’s Johnny-Come-Lately act. His battle with the telcos.
The problem has been existing for years. Millions of prepaid card users had for years been complaining about their disappearing loads.
Why did Enrile act on this issue only now?
Answer: Because this time it was his own prepaid card load that disappeared. Part of his P500 load. That’s chicken feed for him but not to the average cellphone users subjected to this unfairness for years.
Got to give him credit though for battling the telcos. Good campaign point come election time.
Enrile is loyal to Enrile.
Correct. Thanks for the correction. Ellen, you once promised to write to explain why you’re not in favor of Erap.
I’m eagerly waiting for it.
There aren’t too many Baguio Boys who went to the National Scene and became corrupt, Secretary Cruz is still well respected in the city, he grew up in the Mountain Resort and he professed to be “Baguio Boy” and rightly so. Flavier, the ex-senator didn’t enriched himself either.
Former tongressman Vergara and current Baguio Tongressman Domogan were born in La Union and Ilocos Sur respectively, both didn’t grow up in the city and both are corrupt.