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Blame Arroyo for Marcelino appointment
Only in the Philippines.
Imagine a justice secretary giving drug syndicates ammunition to use against law enforcers. The drug lords must be rejoicing.
In his anger towards Maj. Ferdinand Marcelino, who dared talk back to him at a hearing in the House of Representatives, Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez said the Marine officer’s secondment at the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency is unconstitutional. Thus, all the operations conducted by Marcelino could be rendered invalid.
Gonzalez cited a constitutional provision that “no member of the Armed Forces in the active service shall at any time be appointed or designated in any capacity to a civilian position in the government, including government-owned or controlled corporations, or any of their subsidiaries.”
Harry Roque, professor of Public International Law at the UP College of Law and at the Philippine Judicial Academy and chairman of the Center for International Law, disagrees with the justice secretary’s interpretation, saying secondment of Marcelino with the PDA is covered by the powers of the president as head of the bureaucracy.
Marcelino said his assignment at the PDEA was approved by President Arroyo, who is also the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (even if she is a fake president, I must add).
Roque said Gonzalez’ latest tirade against Marcelino “is a very clear indication that he will sustain the dismissal of the drug case against Richard Brodett, Joseph Tecson, and Jorge Joseph tagged by media as the “Alabang Boys” who were caught in a buy-bust in September 2008. The dismissal was aborted by the media leak of bribery that reportedly reached up to P50 million.
Rep. Roilo Golez expressed concern that Gonzalez “wittingly or unwittingly, is sabotaging the operations of PDEA by publicly declaring that ‘Marcelino’s act is not valid.’ Now he has given potentially crucial arguments to the defense counsel of all those facing illegal drugs cases resulting from PDEA operations led by Marcelino.”
Golez said: “A responsible justice secretary thinking of the national interest should have made his legal opinions in closed-door meetings instead of a press conference. In apparently spiting an agency he now considers a nemesis, he forgot his role in the fight against illegal drugs.”
“The justice secretary has become, in my opinion, an unwitting ally of those accused by Marcelino/PDEA of violating R.A. 9165,” Golez said. R.A. 9165 is the Comprehensive Dangerous Act of 2002 that governs government programs and operation to stop the proliferation of illegal drugs in the country.
Golez said with Gonzalez at the helm of the justice department, PDEA’s operations have been neutered. “This is a very sad turn of developments for the anti- illegal- drug campaign,” he said.
Now, let’s see how Arroyo, who has crowned herself drug czarina, will handle this. Will she sanction Gonzalez, who was responsible in installing her in Malacañang despite the fact that she was never elected to the presidency by the Filipino people?
Ding Generoso, a media executive, said if there was any violation of the Constitution with the secondment of Marcelino at the PDEA, it should be Arroyo who should be held accountable. It should be ground for impeachment. “He should be the star witness in a new impeachment complaint against Arroyo,” he said.
Blogger Tongue Twisted enthused: “Yehey! Makakawala na rin lahat ng drug lords na nahuli ng PDEA kasama ng Alabang Boys! Isasauli na rin yung bilyong pisong shabu pati lab equipment na ebidensiya dahil illegal si Marcelino!
“At saka kailangang palitan na yung stock certificates at treasury bonds na P50M. Bobo kasi si Atty. Verano, wrong spelling. Yung last letter ng Gonzales niya ay “s” hindi “z”!
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Government prosecutors who were so enamored with legal technicalities should take a look at this New York Times news report on a Supreme Court decision that evidence obtained from an unlawful arrest based on careless record keeping by the police may be used against a criminal defendant. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/washington/15scotus.html?_r=2&hp)
The report said Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., writing for the majority, said that the exclusion of evidence should be a last resort and that judges should use a sliding scale in deciding whether particular misconduct by the police warranted suppressing the evidence they had found.
“To trigger the exclusionary rule,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote, “police conduct must be sufficiently deliberate that exclusion can meaningfully deter it, and sufficiently culpable that such deterrence is worth the price paid by the justice system.”
That price, the chief justice wrote, “is, of course, letting guilty and possibly dangerous defendants go free.”
Whose side are you really on, Mr. Injustice Secretary? Your constitutional issue against PDEA military agents doesn’t sell. Try better next time. The Department of Justice is in deep shit.
“The Department of Justice is in deep shit.”
So is the country. Because we have a shit of a president.
Yes. Right. They are all PAKENSYET!!!
So, let Gonzales, oops, Gonzalez pala, file impeachment charges against Gloria Arroyo for violation of the constitution.
If he does, we will allow him to release the Alabang Boys without any criticism whatsoever. We can live with drug lords for now. We can kill them later.
He can also keep the P50M bribe.
Ganun pala, kasalanan lahat ng pekeng kumander-in-tsip. Ha,ha,ha! Nababaon lalo si Gloria, ipinahahamak ng kanyang beloved Goon.
Pwet ang nagsasalita kay siRaulo GoonzaleZ!
This Gonzalez, I think, has no problems with his kidneys. His brain is more likely damaged by narcotics. This NARC-LOVER can’t see the real issues in his NARC-POLLUTED brain because of NARC-LACED manoks in his NARC-INHABITED poultry. And here comes this NARC-EYED fake President who sees the problem only as far as the mole on her face, making a NARC-INDUCED directive to subject students to random drug tests as if the solution lies in her NARC-SHORSIGHTEDNESS. God bless the Philippines. We are again being entertained by NARCO-IDIOTS.
Goonzalez is the worst cabinet member under this evil administration. Anyway, let’s all be patient with this old shit. A psychic predicted that he will die this year.
Hopefully, GMA will do a JDV to GonSales, chief of Dept. Store of Justice. He is detrimental to society. If Puno has called for Moral Force, GonSales, due to his dumbness, has been unconciously calling for Immoral Force.
And when GMA does A JDV on GonSales, hopefully, GonSales will do a JDV on GMA.
SHIT, the common word of the above 3 bloggers is apt.
Looks like Gonzales is digging his bribery grave deeper when he discredits the PDEA people. It is getting so obvious that the DoJ’s intent is to have the case against the Alabang boys at any cost to a point where they will destroy the very people tasked to apprehend and combat the drug menace…… those boys must be very PESOnable errr personable for Gonzales to make a fool of himself.
That only shows that Goonzalez could have received some favors from the Alabang Boys. He’s trying to protect and defend the criminals no matter what even if it means fighting against the whole AFP.
POGB,
He may be saving money to bid in the auction of Natalie Dylan. The current bid stands at $2.5M!
Diyos ko po bago na namang kakurakutan ito … sa mga projects sa DPWH naman tayo ngayon …. Per Tribune “The World Bank (WB) blacklisted yesterday seven firms, including three local contractors and one Filipino, from bidding on local projects it funds due to corruption.”
Anong klaseng Administrasyon ang Bansa natin meron?
Wala na bang tama na magawa etong Pek at Pesteng Glorya na ito!!!! Puweeeee ..
Why a Military Drug War is appropriate?
In 1989, US Pres. George Bush ordered the invasion of Panama called operation Just Cause. Capture Panamanian leader, general, and dictator Manuel Noriega was the main objective. The justifications are as follows:
1- Combating drug trafficking. Panama had become a center for drug money laundering and a transit point for drug trafficking to the United States and Europe.
2- Defending democracy and human rights in Panama.
3- Safeguarding the lives of U.S. citizens in Panama.
4- Protecting the integrity of the Torrijos-Carter treaties.
Operation Just Cause involved 57,684 U.S. troops and over 300 aircraft. These were deployed against the 46,000 members of the Panama Defense Forces.
Is an all out war on drugs by Philippine Military justified?
1- A threat to national Security – the estimated drug trade is P600B or $12.7B. It is almost half of the country’s budget and almost equal to the annual OFW remittances. Our country losing this enormous amount to mostly foreign druggers is like invasion of our country, running away with its money and leaving behind dead if not sick populace.
2- Combating drug trafficking. Philippines had become a center for drug money laundering and a transit point for drug trafficking.
3- Defending democracy and human rights.
4- Combatting massive corruption and deterring narco-politicians, whose interest is detrimental to our country.
I CHALLENGE THE DRUG CZAR IF SHE HAS THE BALLS OR TITS TO DO A BUSH
While government is locked in intramural combat in Manila, goons snatch Red Cross team in Southern Philippines
If illegal it’s unconstitutional.
According to Gonzales Marcelino’s appointment is illegal and so its unconstitutional and it follows that all his operations are invalid.
On the other hand unelected Gloria’s appointment of herself as president is illegal and so it’s unconstitutional. Applying the logic of Gonzales, ALL the acts of Gloria as illegal president is invalid including his appointment as DOJ secretary.
Senator Ping Lacson has endorsed Supreme Court Chief Justice Puno for President. What do you think?
The NY times article emphasizes collective effort of its justice system. They coordinate with one another for the benefits of the American People- to identify clear rules to separate lawful searches from unconstitutional ones. They are not perfect but their collective decision making works.
In da pilipins, Gonzalez did not even try nor coordinate with his colleagues to weigh the Value of a Rule. Even if the searches were unconstitutional, Gonzalez ignores the real VALUE of the result from penalizing drug addicts and pushers. For the people, it is constitutional.
Ang nangyayari sa Pinas ang mga kaso na nanggagaling sa BIR, COA, PDEA, at iba pang govt agencies, nalulusaw or nayayari pagdating sa ombudsman or DOJ as the case maybe. Kung ako ay isang taga BIR at nangalap ng mga ebidensya laban sa tax evasion ng isang taxpayer (at hindi ako nagsuccumb sa mga lagay nila), at nagsampa ng kaso , ay parang ipinasa ko lang ang situasyon sa DOJ. Kung baga, nag gawa lang ako ng pagkakataon na may pagkaperahan ng mga ito.
Tongue: He can also keep the P50M bribe.
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I believe you that is why this idiot of a sickritary is adamant to have Marcelino removed to stop the good soldier from stopping the flow of funds to his and his fellow crooks’ bank accounts, including the foreign accounts of the big mastermind overstaying at the palace by the murky river.
Pero ano ang ginagawa ng mga iba pang gunggong sa gobyerno ng Pilipinas? Wala, puro paporma lang!
Ang tagal pa ng eleksyon, pero kung sinu-sino na ang ibinabato sa laban samantalang sa totoo lang baka wala na ngang maging eleksyon dahil si Czarina Bangaw ayaw talagang bumaba maliban na lang nga kung sabunutan sa buhok at hilahin palabas ng Malacanang tapos itali sa mataas na lamp-post sabi nga ni Anna.
Palusot pa nga iyong kunyari isinusulong si Puno for the presidency. Puede ba, tigilan na nila ang mga kalokohan nila at magtrabaho sila ng mahusay. Sibakin itong bobong bisaya from Iloilo para mabawasan na ang mga inutil sa pamahalaang bulok.
Sa totoo lang kaya hindi makahirit ang mga mokong kasi hindi pa man may threat nang sila naman ang ibubulgar. Majority kasi may skeletons sa kanilang mga closet. In short, mabibilang sa daliri ang talagang walang kurakot. Palpak kasi ang mga values ng mga mokong, lalo na siguro iyong mga graduate ng mga parochial schools.
Kawawang bansa! Hindi na nakaahon sa putik!
“Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez said the Marine officer’s secondment at the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency is unconstitutional”
Pagbigyan na ninyo yung matanda, at malaki ang hinanakit kung bakit hindi pa agad niya tinanggap yung mga “manok.” Hindi kasi na “moderate” yung greed.
You can now imagine a truckload of “manok” being delivered to his bank account, courtesy of big time drug lords, for this statement of his.
Painfully funny.. “unconstitutional” is now interpreted by GMA and her cabals as – hindi profitable.
Lawyers for the Drug Synbdicates are now quite busy. Filing motions for reconsiderations, armed with what Gonzalez has provieded them. I am predicting at least 85% of those who have been convicted would go scot-free, the remaining 15% would have their convictions stand. Simply because, the 15% have no more Manok to shell out. The 85% have a poultry farm, so they could easily give away some of their stock for the impending Fiesta of Department of Justice_Nationwide celebration.
In effect, what this accusation and pronouncement entail is the culpability of Gloria in usurpation of power. She should be held liable for this violation in our Constitution. If the DOJ will not file charges against Gloria, can the people file charges as what Biraogo has filed against CJ Puno?
Paano na ngayon yung mga PSG and other Active Military Staff assigned to secure the politicians and their families_including extended families. Wala naman tayong Secret Service_meron ba?
be, a Puno-Lacson is a very good tandem. Justice + law maker + law enforcer + corruption buster at least helps a lot in our economy. Both will have a good influence in our justice system, the AFP and the PNP. They have the balls to run after the crooks in the GMA regime.
Lacson-Puno is also good since Lacson has been a politician and senator for years. Puno could support Lacson in terms of legal and judiciary knowledge.
maydangalpa, nagkalat ang mga secret service. Maraming klase ang kanilang trabaho. Sila yung mga tigaligpit ng mga hindi kanais-nais at mga sagabal. Sila yung mga nagkakalat ng lagim kung saan kinakailangan. Sila ay mga mata, ilong at tainga ng pagpeperahan. Isang halimbawa ng pinaka-popular na trinabaho nila ay yung Hello Garci Tapes.
be, Lacson-Puno ang dapat i-endorso ni Erap. Hindi si Loren na simulat-sapul, puro dada na lang ng dada ng kanyang dalawang bunganga ang trinabaho niya, at ang nakakatakot ay maaring bumiling siya gaya ni GMA kasi simulat-sapul ay mukhang silaw na silaw rin siya sa may datung at Angara-ng gamit.
I am for Puno-Lacson…Lacson is a politician and many are still wary of politicians…but Puno is not and has not been in politics–new face..new ideas..not tainted with the dirt of politics…walang dungis ang mga kamay..clean in politics.. the air we will breathe will be purer..by that time na sa Pilipinas na ako..at mangangapanya ako..that is no threat but a promise..
if we campaign for Puno=Lacson mas madali ang pag lisan ni putot at ni siraulo sa mundo..and we don’t need to pray for them to die or to get killed…they will be both worried to death…all we have to do is pray for morality in our gov’t..and one thing more..baka si brenda ay tuluyan ng tumalon…
Commercial muna. Paki tignan ang latest video ni Juana Change. Pati na rin yung late xmas video niya na “12 Days of Scandals”, ang galing!
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X2LC9sjxlY&feature=channel
Sigurado akong may sakit din saa atay itong gungong na ito.
Umaakyat sa utak ang bacteria nun kapag malala na talaga ang lagay ng atay. Naapektuhan ang pag-iisip.
Off Topic:
Erap’s mother, Dona Mary’s wake has shown how popular and well loved Erap is. Both allies and from the administration dropped by to pay their respect. For obvious reason, the Evil Bitch did not attend even if she wanted to. It was the Presidential Son Mickey the Horse who came with DILG Sec. Puno. Even former Senator Tessie Oreta and fell out of grace Manila Mayor Fred Lim came. Tycoons Danding and Lucio Tan also came. Among the flowers sent, there’s one coming from Chavit Singson. Politics or not, it’s a manifestation of how important and acknowledged Father of the Masses Erap is. Armina Sigion Reyna came with Ninez Olivarez. Now, who says Erap cannot win in 2010 if he really decides to run?
Do you know who finances the Samahang Anti-Kurakot Ng Sambayanang Inaapi (SAKSI)? Looks like their name should be changed to Samahang Kurakot Ng Sambayanang Inaapi (SAKSI). Read below.
Impeaching the CJ – excerpt only
Ducky Paredes, Malaya
Parties hiding behind the veil of anonymity and identifying themselves as an amorphous group named “Samahang Anti-Kurakot Ng Sambayanang Inaapi (SAKSI)” took out full-page newspaper advertisements accusing the Chief Justice as being behind the non-promulgation of a decision on the election case involving a petition to disqualify Jocelyn Limkaichong as the duly elected representative of the First District of Negros Oriental.
Ito ba’y SAKSI NI OYANG?
Thank you,Tongue-twisted.
How this for strategy of fighting the druggies…
Jan 16, 2009 4:30 am..
Toronto Star
Kenyon Wallace
Staff Reporter
The Cornwall police have a message: If you deal drugs, the whole neighbourhood will soon know.
But their new practice of placing warning signs on the front lawns of houses where drugs are found risks stigmatizing people before they have a chance to defend themselves, says a civil liberties watchdog.
“It sends a message that this is somebody engaged in illicit conduct when that may not be the case,” said Graeme Norton, of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. “You have the potential that an individual will be severely affected by how their community perceives them and the stigma that can result is quite serious.”
The strategy came into effect Wednesday when Cornwall police raided a home in the city’s east end resulting in the arrest of three people who now face drug possession charges. As officers left, up went the sign reading “Drug Search Warrant Executed.”
Chief Dan Parkinson defended the practice, saying it was in direct response to residents complaining of low police visibility and presence in the city. Addressing concerns that the signs might stigmatize people, the chief said the notices are erected only if drugs are seized and individuals are arrested.
Denis Thibault, a city councillor and chair of the police board, said concerns over the stigmatization of individuals are moot because detailed records of police raids are publicly available and are sent out to media organizations everyday.
“The only difference here is that a little piece of that information goes out on the front lawn,” he said, noting that signs remain outside a house only for a few hours following a raid.
Vicky Chartrand, an east-side Cornwall resident for 20 years, told the Star she welcomed the new police policy and said she hoped it would help deter the city’s youth from dealing or using drugs.
“It’s about time that kind of thing got stopped around here,” said Chartrand, 39, a mother of two.
Toronto used to place signs outside homes that once housed marijuana grow-ops, but the practice stopped three years ago when questions were raised over the city’s legal jurisdiction to do so.
TT,
Da best pa rin si Juana! Yung 12 Days Xmas Offering nya, dapat mapanuod ng bawat Pinoy. Bilib ako sa may ideya nito. “Best fren” siguro si GMA! Recorded lahat mga mortal SINS niya sa mga Pinoy! He,he,he!
Thanks Tongue!
Tongue,
I liked the best when NOLI appeared, dinadaldalan lang pala nya. Ha, ha, ha! Okey ngarud, ako naman ang maghahanap kay BFF kay BONI.
BFF BONI.
Unbelievable! Chavit Singson personally went to the wake of Dona Mary and even talked with Erap face-to-face.
Erap’s heart is too soft. What does he think he is, a living saint? Dra. Loi and JV Ejercito said they were not ready to forgive Singson. But this Erap…
I know why…Singson knows the Evil Bitch’s time is up. After 2010, he himself would be in trouble if an opposition candidate wins…more so if it’s Erap.
Erap has a big heart..and seems to be more of a Christian than many who claim to be catholic at nagpapamisa sa hating gabi..The drop-out of Ateneo is better educated it seems than the graduates of the Ateneo College of Law! hindi siya na ka enroll sa Corruption & Greed 101..He seems to be a humble man..and humility is a virtue.hindi ba?
maiba ako…we here in the East coast particularly NYC had another miracle..Miracle on the Hudson…and of course we had the 34th St. Miracle..what I am praying for is a Miracle in Manila sa Aviles St. sa Pasig River…ang paglisan at pagbaba ni putot kasama si siraulo at si Brenda…mukhang malapit na…Tomorrow..Tomorrow its a day away..ang sabi nga ni Annie…
That pilot is a hero. He saved so many lives.
I hope the “Alabang Boys”, the Chief Justice Impeachment and lately the Red Cross staff kidnapping are not diversionary tactics again to divert attention about the more serious and delicate issue, the CHACHA!
Sana hindi na tayo MAGPAGOYO!
PLEEEAAASSEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
rose, the emergency preparedness of the U.S. now is unbelievable, especially New York city, that in a matter of minutes, emergency n.y. waterways personnel on the scene. It is true even during the elevation of the security alert that my siblings will immediately return to their stations everytime there is the call in their pagers, even if they are out of town..
I think they could be diversionary tactics. Please take note that we don’t hear of the ZTE, C-5 Road, Euro-Generals and even Fertilizer scams anymore. Imagine, Abalos also went to Dona Mary’s wake. Abalos was the Comelec Chairman when the 2004 cheating occurred. The most surprising of all was Chavit Singson’s visit to the wake.
The Red Cross kidnapping could be the work of the government again. That’s not only a diversionary tactic, but to justify and prolong the US soldiers stay in the South.
BE: Among the flowers sent, there’s one coming from Chavit Singson.
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Tinanggap naman ni Erap? Yuck! Wala ring delikadeza! Kaya between him and Susan Roces, mas bilib ako sa asawa ni FPJ, may isang salita, puri, dangal at higit sa lahat delikadeza!
Remember when she returned the wreath sent by the Bangaw in the palace by the murky river. Pinasuli pero inagaw ng mga taumbayang nakikiramay at winasak! Hindi naman siguro kasalanan na ipasupalpal kay Singson ang padala niyang bulaklak na baka may kasama pang tong!
Puede ba, stay out of politics na lang si Erap? Nakakagulo lang siya sa totoo lang. I’d rather he tries doing what Michael Moore has been doing to save the Philippines from total ruin. Dagdag pa siya sa pagkalalong bulok ng Pilipinas sa totoo lang. Puro popularity contest lang. Wala namang silbi sa bayan!
Kawawang bansa talaga. Puro bugok ang pinauupo ng mga bugok din no doubt!
Vic, with today’s modern communication technology, it’s no surprising for the US authorities’ quick response to emergency. What about Canada?
grizzy, not only did Singson send flowers, he also personally went to the wake and welcomed by Erap. If there’s a global warming, there’s a political warming. They’re all bunch of idiots.
Sars epidemic and also 9/11 put us in about the same footing and it was demostrated last time, not long ago during the possible threat in a Cruise Train when it was immediately quarantined in the Far North and the whole emergency unit including a portable quarantine hospital and personnel were airlifted in a matter of hours. Emergency Task Forces (swat teams) are active 24/7 and all emergency personnel are on call. T.V. and Radio and all Freeways and Roadways signage can be activated to reflect the emergency. bitch we are prepared.
There’s also Sars Epidemic in the Philippines caused by the
Evil Bitch’s appointment to herself as Anti-illegal Drug Sar.
Takot si Erap kay Chavit.
Kaya nga ang mga politiko ay talagang mga politiko. Nag-aaway man pero darating ang araw bati na naman. Ang kawawa ay yong mga taong gustong sumawsaw sa mga away at isyu sa kalaunan ay sila ang natetepok.
Nakita na naman natin ang mga taong kurap sa libing ng isang ina ng isang kurap. Pero di natin nakita ang mukha ng Princesa’t Prinsipe ng mga KURAP!!!!!!
Pinoy gumising ka na!!!!!!
Binaboy na talaga nila ang dangal ng isang tunay Filipino.
Erap had not choice but to welcome Singson who wanted to visit the wake. Before Singson came, he first contact son Jude Estrada if it was okay for him to go and Erap said yes. The one who had thick face and shameless was Singson, not Erap. Singson’s visit as a sign of reconciling with Erap showed Singson was afraid of Erap not the other way around. As I earlier mentioned, Singson might be anticipating an opposition administration in 2010.
Da PNP should also give Atong Ang a permit to attend the wake of Erap’s mom. Then Erap, Luisito, and Atong can smoke a “peace pipe” loaded with MJ.
The crash happened in NY. It’s center stage, some obviously wanted to be called a hero. Wonder what’s the “response time” for a Congo Flight crashing into the swamps of New Orleans’ black neighborhoods??
There’s report that the Evil Bitch might also visit the wake. Let her go…so that Dona Mary could spit at her face.
Baka si Marcos may balak din para sila magpahabaan ng pisi Padamihan ng tong-pats) …. lol
Tedanz, ilista mo nga kung anong mga corruption na ginawa ni Erap?
Wala ako sa Pilipinas noong presidente si Erap kaya di ako familiar.
Paki lista mo nga Tedanz.
Tedanz, paki paliwanag mo sa sinabi mong takot si Erap kay Chavit? Bakit matatakot si Erap kay Chavit? At saka paki lista mo ang mga corruption ni Erap.
Hinala ko dito kay Tedanz eh planted poster ni bansot at fatboy pidal.
Nasaan ka na Tedanz? Natatakot ka bang sumagot?
Magnakaw ka man ng singko ganon na din yon etcetera. Bakit gusto niyo pa ba siyang maging Pangulo … ako oks lang pero kung may iba pang pagpipilian e wag na lang. Sa totoo lang gusto ko rin si Erap .. pero naa-lis na siya … sa akin lang ay yong iba na lang … maliwanag na po ba. Hindi po ako sugo ng mga tang-nang binaggit mo … baka ikaw puwede pa.
Tedanz, Sabi mo takot si Erap kay Chavit? Bakit mo nasabi yon?
Tedanz, paki lista mo rin yong mga singko na ninakaw ni Erap.
After Singson, Berroya and Gordon also went to the wake.
Sa totoo lang, hindi ko maintindihan ang mentality ng karamihan sa mga pilipinong nasanay sa graft and corruption kaya naiinda nila ang lahat ng mga kababuyan ni Gloria Dorobo. At ito namang si Erap, please, pakisabi na tumigil na sa kaaarte niya. Gumawa na lang siya ng pelikula dahil sa totoo lang, pampagulo lang siya.
Hindi ko rin maintindihan kung bakit lahat ng mga politiko kailangang pumunta sa wake ng nanay ni Erap na pribado namang tao. Besides, baka di nga matahimik ang kaluluwa ng nanay niya sa pagpunta sa wake niya ng mga ulupong na nagkait sa kaniya ng kaniyang anak sa mahabang panahon at naging dahilan ng maasim na huling sandali niya gaya noong si Villar na umakyat pa sa lamesa noon para itakwil si Erap. Pwe!
Lahing traydor talaga. Worse ay ang pagtanggap ni Erap kay Gloria Dorobo na tiyak may dalang malaking abuloy kung saka-sakali! Tignan natin kung hindi bumaba ang rating niya sa mga mahihirap na tagasuporta niya.
I wonder kung halos lahat ng mga pilipino may lahing dugong aso kaya ganoon ang ugali nila, trayduran. Batu-bato sa langit ang tamaan may bukol!!! 😛
Off Topic:
Do you know that Obama has a half-brother married to a Chinese now living in China?
Bibilib ako kay Erap kung siya mismo patigilin na niya ang mga kabaliwan na siya ang pinapag-decide kung sino ang tatakbo sa 2010. Asta hari rin ang mokong, at walang pinag-iba doon sa isa pang baliw.
In short, kasalanan ng mga pilipino na pinawiwili nila ang mga mokong at mokang na apihin sila. Heavens, kailan pa ba matutoto ang mga pilipino? Panahon pa ni Mahoma ang problema ng Pilipinas, hindi pa rin natoto!
BTW, OK iyong bagong presentation ni Juana Change tungkol sa mga OFW, lalo na iyong bandang huli na katabi niya iyong kamukha ni Rizal. Looking for a bayani ang tema.
Definitely, not Erap! Mahirap maging huwaran ang isang babaero ng mga kabataang pilipino sa totoo lang.
Kaya kung kay Erap lang naman, mas di hamak na matino si Susan Roces na hindi nagpapadala sa mga unggoy na gustung tumakbo siya palit noong nasira niyang asawa. Maski nga iyong anak ayaw patakbuhin dahil hindi naman nila linya ang politika sabi niya. Puede naman tumulong kung gustong tumulong sa mga mahihirap sa totoo lang na di kailangan ang mga publisidad dahil sabi nga sa Biblia, useless ang mga kawanggawa na ipinapasikat lang.
Kaya para kay Susan, I take my hat off. Kay Erap, dura ang ipupukol ko sa mukha niya lalo ‘pag tinanggap niya si Gloria dahil para na ring sinabi niya na tama lang ang pagtanggal sa kaniya!!! Bobo pala talaga!
Ibig mo bang sabihin etcetera ay nagpakulong si Erap na wala ni singko siyang tinong-pats … mukhang nagbingibingihan ka lang igan … at kung gusto mong malaman itanong mo na lang kay Villavicencio hindi sa akin … oks ba. Kung hindi takot si Erap kay Chavit e di pinaupakan na lang sana niya noon pa. Biruin mo sinira ni Chavit ang career niya …. kita mo si Chavit pag nasasabit tumutuka. Ano nasagot ko na lahat ang katanungan mo …. lol.
Lots of trash have been thrown at Erap; but it’s an undeniable fact that he’s still well loved by millions of poor Filipinos.
If you call Erap an idiot, then those millions are also idiots. Whether he would run again or not is not the issue here. What you guys are attacking are his imperfection, vices and weaknesses as a person. And who are perfect and sinless?
Sure, he was corrupt and he allowed his friends to be such. Tell me a President who was not corrupt? Magsaysay? Cory? Magsaysay allowed himself to be corrupted by the US and CIA. Cory had her brother Peping leading the Kamag-anak Inc.
Think about this: Erap never denied his womanizing and drunkenness. People knew this way back when he was still an actor. Yet, he was elected to Mayor for many years; as Senator, Vice President and President with not a single doubt or rumor of cheating. Those millions of people who voted for him were idiots?
Filipinos have so much respect for the dead. A family in mourning and during wake…personal grudge is put aside, at least temporarily. So, if Erap’s foes even the worst of enemies like Singson visited his mother’s wake, who was Erap to drive them away? Not even the Evil Bitch. I know she was itching to go. To test how people would react, he first sent his son Mickey and this AH was welcomed by Erap. Ermita was also sent there. So, she was safe to go but chose not to…to avoid looking very stupid. Would Erap accept her, yes of course. But does Erap like her and Singson. NO.
BE: If you call Erap an idiot, then those millions are also idiots.
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Sinabi mo pa! So, I call them all idiots!!! 😛
Count me out. There’s always an exception. But what do you call those who voted for GMA? Anything worse than “idiot”?
I guess it is time for Erap to say goodbye to politics. Nakakagulo lang siya sa totoo lang. Lalong nagiging mukhang mga idiots iyong mga supporter niya na hindi naman binibigyan ng pansin at respeto ang mga opinion unless may pakinabang sila doon sa gumagamit sa kanila. It’s as simple as that lalo na doon sa mga sinasabing kapit sa patalim. E kundi ba idiot bakit nga ba kakapit sa patalim alam mo namang masusugat ka?!
At kahit na anong papuri nila kay Erap, kustumbre kuno ng mga pilipino (not my folks!), di dapat tinatanggap ang mga ulupong na isa sa mga dahilan ng sama ng loob ng nanay ni Erap. For sure, mas di hamak na may puri, dangal at delikadeza si Susan Roces, ang asawa ng kaibigan niyang si FPJ.
Bilib talaga ako sa katinuan ng isip ni Manay Susan. Iyan ang tunay! Si Erap? Pwe! Politikong pulpol pala talaga. Maaawa na sana ako, pero di na! Urong-sulong din pala! No wonder, natanggal sa posisyon dahil alam ni Gloria Dorobo, et al ang kalibre niya! Kawawa iyong mga mahihirap na iniidolo siya! Pwe! Pwe! Pwe!
Tama pala sina Leah Navarro ng pagdura kay Erap!
BE: But what do you call those who voted for GMA? Anything worse than “idiot”?
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Ulol lang ang tinatanong ng ganyang mga tanong! Alam mo ngang idiot, di mo na dapat pang itanong! 😛
BE:
I totally agree with you on the above post. Personal grudge/s are set aside when there is a wake, especially, for someone who you love ever so dearly.
I personally know the Ejercito family, and could vouch that they are sincere friends, I was born and raised in San Juan, Pinaglaban Street, 100 – 120 Meters from Pinaglaban Church, and have personally experienced how the Ejercitos, especially ERAP treat people_in all levels of society.
TEDANZ:
I disagree with you that ERAP is scared of Chavit. ERAP has to welcome Chavit in his mother, DOÑA Mary’s wake. Its the civil and right thing to do. Ever moreso, it is also the politically correct thing to do.
With regards to corruption, I think that all leaders of government have experienced corruption small or large scale.
That is the very reason, why lobbyists exist.
From what I understand though, ERAP did not touch the National Coffers as what is shamelessly being done Arroyo family.
Lastly : I Grieve for Dona Mary, may her beautiful soul rest in peace. My condolence to the Ejercito family.
BE: But does Erap like her and Singson. NO.
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In short, pakitang-tao lang siya. All the more reason why I would not trust Erap from now on. Baka iyong magandang pakita niya sa akin, pakitang-tao lang pala. Pwe! No need!
# grizzy Says:
January 17th, 2009 at 8:19 am
BE: But what do you call those who voted for GMA? Anything worse than “idiot”?
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Ulol lang ang tinatanong ng ganyang mga tanong! Alam mo ngang idiot, di mo na dapat pang itanong! 😛
….So, if there’s nothing worse than “idiot”, then Erap and Gloria are on the same level. It’s not an idiot who asks such a question, but one who refers to another as one.
Maydangalpa: Personal grudge/s are set aside when there is a wake, especially, for someone who you love ever so dearly.
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Not in my family though. Mas mabuti pang itaboy ang mga kaaway kesa makagulo sa funeral. Iyan ang katwiran namin. At iyong mga kaaway din, dahil alam ang ugali namin, di na pumupunta dahil kung may delikadeza din sila, di sila pupunta bilang paggalang na rin sa patay. In the case of Singson, ang kapal din ng mukha ng Ilocanong iyan. Ikinahihiya ko siya bilang kalahi ng nanay ko. Sabi nga sa amin, “Ukininana!” Baka isumbat pa ang iniabuloy sa patay ng nanay ni Erap! Iyan ang problema!
Heard about the word courtesy, grizzy? If it was Jinggoy who was at the wake at the time of Singson’s visit, then things might turn out to be different. Erap is Erap. It’s not being hypocritical. Even if an enemy visits your family member’s wake, the reconciliatory gesture comes from that person. Erap has said several times he has forgiven his enemies…but he never says he has forgotten what they have done.
BE: ….So, if there’s nothing worse than “idiot”, then Erap and Gloria are on the same level.
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Sinabi mo pa. Ikaw na rin ang sumagot ng tanong mo. End of the story. Tawag ko nga kay Gloria Dorobo, dugong aso—worse than idiot na iyan sa totoo lang!
grizzy, please don’t compare your family to other’s family. If yours is a warlike and combative type, I don’t think Erap’s family is.
By for now…I’m going to Dona Mary’s funeral.
Courtesy, my ass, BE! Bastos din iyong Singson sa totoo lang dahil kung may courtesy siya, hindi na siya dapat pang pumunta sa wake ng nanay ni Erap. For what? For publicity? Pwe! Ang hihilig nila sa publicity.
Palusot pa na kasi pumayag iyong anak. Bakit siya ang tatay, bakit niya pakikinggan ang anak niya? Doon dapat ipinakita ni Erap ang galit niya sa sumira ng bansa, huwag na siya. Iyan ang walang kapatawaran sa totoo lang.
Never heard of any official in Japan na ibinabalandra pa ang funeral ng mga kamag-anak nila. Tama na iyong obituary sa dyaryo at hindi na dapat pang ibinabalandra kung sinu-sino ang pumunta sa wake ng nanay ni Erap. Para que? Para sabihing lovey-dovey na siya doon sa mga nagpatalsik sa kaniya at malakas na naman siya sa politika ng bansang nabulok na?
I don’t buy such argument na kustumbre ng mga pilipino, courtesy, etc. Nagpapakita lang ng kabulukan ng sistema, kustumbre, etc. Dapat binabago na ang mga iyan para tumino na ang bansa.
Kawawang Pilipinas!
Kung nagawa ni Susan Roces na tanggihan ang mga publicity-grabber sa wake ng asawa niya, bakit di magawa ni Erap? Pareho lang naman silang artista, politiko nga lang iyong isa!
Hindi combative ang pamilya ko, BE. Meron lang delikadeza! Kustumbreng pulpol, di namin pinapairal. Puede namang huwag tanggapin sa totoo lang. Bakit ba si Susan Roces ginawa iyon? Kasi may dangal at delikadeza ang ulirang ginang ni FPJ! Apparently, wala si Erap niyan. What can you expect from a philanderer, sabi nga? Wala!
Grizzy :
There’s the difference between ERAP and Susan. Politics has separated them.
The Delicadeza here should have come from Chavit, however, I will never know if Chavit visited to condole with the family sincerely. What I can be sure of though is that he went there to get some media mileage and political points.
We should not compare Susan and Erap, as you yourself have mentioned, Erap is a politician. In addition to that, so is Erap’s family. While Susan is not a politician.
Ooops…nawala tayo sa Thread. Apologies folks. Cheerio!
Back to Ammo for Drug Syndicates courtesy of Raul Gonzalez.
Maydangalpa: From what I understand though, ERAP did not touch the National Coffers as what is shamelessly being done Arroyo family.
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I believe you, kasi wala naman na siyang manakaw noon. Ninakaw na noong sinundan niya! That was the true state of the nation then. Takot nga ang mga creditors ng Pilipinas na pautangin si Erap. Awang-awa nga ako sa kaniya noon na ayaw kumbidahin ng mga opisyal dito kasi alam mangungutang lang siya.
Tapos ang galit ng mga kasama ko nang pagbigyan iyong kahilingan ni Dorobo na ma-invite for a state visit na nakatalaga para kay Erap. Ang laki ng ODA sa Pilipinas na mino-monitor ngayon ng agency dito kung saan napunta. Pero mukhang frozen ang mga ODA for Philippine projects gawa nga ng walang justification ang mga naunang bigay kay Dorobo.
Kaya halos lumuhod ang ambassador ng Pilipinas sa Japan na i-release ang hinihingi nilang ODA para doon daw sa project na dam sa Mindanao. Pero sinong niloloko nila ngayon pang magulo doon with the threat of secession ng mga kausap ni Dorobo? Manigas sila!
Yup, politiko si Erap, pero no reason for him to humble himself to the people who have caused his mother a lot of pains bilang paggalang na rin sana niya sa nanay niya. Nagpapakita lang kung anong uri ang pagkatao ni Erap.
Di siya lulusot sa akin sa totoo lang. Ke politician or not si Susan, mas mataas ang paggalang ko ngayon sa kaniya kesa kay Erap. Nakakasuka ang ipinapakita niya for publicity sake! Pwe!
The Alabang Boys case is on a roll. This has been affirmed when CA has ordered the PDEA to produce the accused, by granting the Habeas Corpus filed by Verano.
Likely scenario when they face each other, is that CA would inform the PDEA lawyer, that they do not have sufficinet basis to keep the Alabang Boys_Brodet, Joseph and Tecson, under custody while the DOJ re-evaluates the case. Therefore, the CA is ordeing the release of the suspects, post haste. Voila! Transaction completed! Php50Million!
PDEA should seek and file for Hold Order Departure. This Alabang Boys (think Drug Pushers should be added)are a flight risk. They are well connected and have the means to flee the country. I hope that the PDEA has also requested to have bank transactions investigated for all parties involved, including close relatives and friends of Brodet, Joseph and Tecson. And the DOJ people too.
Maydangalpa: In addition to that, so is Erap’s family.
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Ang alam ko Civil Engineer ang tatay ni Erap at hindi politician. Ganoon din ang nanay niya na housewife lamang. So is Susan Roces na artista hindi politiko. Wala sa poli-politika iyan. Ang question ay kung may dangal at delikadeza ang isang tao. Apparently, wala si Erap niyan na ginagawa ang mga kabulastugang ginagawa niya for his political survival. I am not impressed. Bibilib na sana ako sa kaniya, nasira pa since the time he thanked that Dorobo for his freedom! Ulol talaga!
Iyong asawa at anak naman ni Erap, naging politician due to his connections, and nothing else. Kaya tignan mo naman ang performance nila. Nada!
Grizzy : I meant, Erap’s children_Jinggoy, JV and his wife Loi. Not to mention ER (nephew) They are his family, who are in politics, Not his parents nor siblings. Cheers!
I didn’t proceed to the funeral ’cause I wasn’t allowed in. Security was tight. Now, I’m back here. I think you got a point, grizzy. It’s now about courtesy but being real. Erap should have said no. He can say he’s not ready to accept Singson. Loi and JV didn’t talk to Singson. They snubbed him. As for playing it in the media, the media did it not Erap. Erap was a celebrity and many of those who went to the wake were celebrities like during FPJ’s wake. When the Evil Bitch dies, no media would cover it.
Correction: It’s not (not now) about courtesy…
Many of Erap’s foes like Singson, Mickey Arroyo, Berroya, Fred Lim, Gordon went there…but we don’t hear yet of Ping Lacson.
What’s really going on between the two? Or Ping is one who’s not “plastic”?
Once big time drug pushers are released and out on bail, it would be very hard to re-arrest them. Through the assistance of well paid lawyers and connection, they could always evade arrest and leave the country. Remember these are the sons of prominent families. Another case dismissed. Next case please…
Gaya nga ng sabi ko, Maydangalpa, politikong pulpol naman iyong mga kamag-anak ni Erap sa politika na nakapasok lang dahil sa connections at popularity niya, and nothing more.
Hindi ako impressed lalo na kumpara doon sa mga naging politician dito from the grass movements na nagtatrabaho nang tunay. Walang binatbat ang mga unggoy sa Pilipinas, kahit na iyong favorite kong politician na si Senator Pimentel sa katapatan, commitment, dedication at sipag nila. Di kasi sila urung-sulong lang.
Sayang nga si Sonny Trillanes, hindi maipakita ang galing niya dahil nasa loob siya. Iyong mga panukala naman niya, still to be proven pa kung effective o hindi para mapatino ang Pilipinas. Dapat pinalalabas na siya for the sake of those who voted for him, and those he needs to serve, ang taumbayang pilipino!
BE: Erap has said several times he has forgiven his enemies…but he never says he has forgotten what they have done.
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Yuck! Plastic! I’m not impressed. Para alam niya, “To forgive is to forget.” Otherwise, walang silbi!
Tedanz, nakakatawang walang kwenta ang paliwanag mo.
Kung mayroon election sa 2010, mananalo si Erap hands down at siguradong landslide.
Ang mga corrupt na politician ay hindi magpapakitang tao sa funeral ng nanay ni Erap kung alam nilang hindi importante si Erap sa kasalukoyan.
The difference on the intensity of Erap’s and Susan’s anger on their most hated political foes as seen during their loved ones wake is situational.
Erap has been forgiving even before Dona Mary’s death. His ill-feelings towards his political foes cooled-off through the years. Older and wiser, he may have thought that there’s nothing to gain in snubbing his political foes during the wake.
The death of FPJ happened during the height of his election protest. During that time, Susan’s anger, frustration, and stress attributed to her attitude towards her most hated political foes.
Just in case Erap becomes president again, I hope he will be just and not forgiving because if does forgives GMA and her cabals, then he will be unforgiving and may result to his ultimate ouster.
He might be pretending to be forgiving this time so his political opponents will think that he is harmless. What he did to Mayor Alfredo Lim still shows that he still has the balls to fight and unforgiving. I am sure he is now harmless to chicks.
Take note of the latest developments in the “Alabang Boys” case.
Court of Appeals grants habeas corpus petition of the “Alabang Boys”.
NBI eyes obstruction of justice versus Marcelino
I won’t be surprised if these drug addicts/pushers would be back in business very soon. And Marcelino would be sent back to Basilan. Or will be the one to end up in jail “for obstruction of justice.”
Pambihirang buhay ito.
I absolutely agree with you, syria. Grizzy’s attitude towards Erap is also situational. Grizzy expected Erap to react the same way as she wants but Erap did not. In the end, all I can say is that one cannot force another to share the same kind of attitude no matter how wide the difference. We just need to respect one’s feeling and decision. Who knows more what’s in the heart of Erap but himself and God? And who are we to judge Erap?
BE:
I know a lot of people who are known and have had enough publicity done to popularize them, pero takaw pa rin sa publicity. Erap is no exception to the rule, I guess. Kung baga sa yaman, the more you have, the more you crave.
Tignan mo naman, parang state funeral pa kuno ang wake ng nanay niya. Sino pa ba ang hinihintay nila at hindi pa ilibing ang nanay niya? Can’t they make this private funeral really private, wala nang dami pang tsetseburetse? Di ba nila alam na ang kaluluwa hindi natatahimik hanggat hindi nadadala sa huling hatungan, ‘ika nga? Kasi sa totoo lang, baka pasukan pa kasi ng masamang ispiritu ang katawan ng namatay kaya ang pagkakaalam ko binabantayan ng namatay ang kaniyang katawan hanggang malibing siya.
Kaya nga sa Mountain Province, ang alam ko pag may namatay lalo na sa disgrasya o violent death, nililibing agad para matahimik agad ang kaluluwa ng namatay. Iyong nanay ni Erap, siguro napapaiyak na lang iyong matanda dahil nababastos ang wake niya ng mga bastos na walang modong may lakas pa ng loob na umarteng nakikiramay sila. Inutil naman iyong anak na dapat sabihin na lang hindi siya puedeng humarap sa mga bastos.
End of the story. Balik sa topic ng loop na ito. Mas mahalaga iyan kesa sa kabulastugan ni Erap.
I agree with Grizzy. Can we go back to posted topic?
Ellen: And Marcelino would be sent back to Basilan. Or will be the one to end up in jail “for obstruction of justice.”
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We are not surprised by this development, Ellen. Sabi nga, dating tugtugin na since the Dorobo grabbed power. Iyong matitino lang ang nakukulong. Tuwa siguro ng mga Alabang Boys at back to business na naman sila.
Ang tanong, magkano ang binalato sa Pidal foundation. Sabi nga ng kaibigan ko, iyong mga crater daw sa harap ng Malacanang, pantakip lang para di daw kita iyong pumapasok doon na may dalang bayong gaya noong bitbit daw ng mga pilipino sa palengke noong peace time. Isang talong daw noon, isang bayong
Kawawang Marcelino! For doing his duty, labas niya ngayon, “Marcelino pan y vino.” Onli in da Pilipins na naman.
Hoy, Juan at Juana, hanggang ganyan na lang ba?
Ellen, hopefully what you have posted will happen. This might trigger, ignite, and stimulate a coup, an uprising or another people power. There’s a hitch however.
The administraton might really want the circumstances you mentioned to happen so they can justify Martial Rule. Their plans to impeach Puno and their Cha-cha mode is failing. They are now faking destabilization starting with the Justice Department.
Iyon lagayan sa DOJ, SC, etc. lumang tugtugin na rin iyan. Bago pa kami umalis ng Pilipinas, uso na iyan, pero mas grabe ngayon kasi may tabing pang mga containers na galing sa Pier para pantakip doon sa lagayan sa palasyo sa tabi ng mabahong ilog. Naging institution na iyan panahon pa ni Dadong Macapagal.
Once I remember Monsag telling me about how much Imelda bribed the SC para makalusot doon sa kaso nila ni Apo Marcos. Ayoko sanang maniwala sa kaniya pero garapalan na pala ang sistema doon as revealed by this bribery attempt by the Alabang Boys na makakawala na at nasayang ang pagod ng mga drug busters dahil sa kahayupan noong sickritari of injustice ni Gloria Mandarambong. But what can you expect lalo pa ngayong mga wannabe criminals ang nagpapatakbo ng bansa? Hindi nga lang mahuli dahil ayaw naman talagang hulihin at ikulong.
Tama lang si Gloria Puts na tawagin ang sarili niyang Czarina. Yup, Czarina ng droga! Landiiiiiiiiiii!
Hail to the Queen of Droga!
Used to the very systematic criminal procedure over in the land of the fluctuating yen dahil sa trabaho ko bilang interpreter/translator/paralegal sa korte dito, shock talaga ako sa ginagawa sa Pilipinas lalo na under the sickritariship of a sick man na pasang awa pa yata sa bar. Por diyes, por singko iyong nanghuli ng kriminal pa ngayon ang kakasuhan! Unbelievable talaga!
Kinuwento ko nga doon sa mga kakilala kong prosecutor, judge at abogado dito ang nangyayari ngayon kay Marcelino ng PDEA. Napanganga na lang sila!
Sabi nila nakakatakot pala talaga sa Pilipinas! Walang hustisya! Sabi ko na lang sa kanila, walang silang alalahanin kung madatong sila. Lalo silang napanganga! 😛
Sabi daw noong sickritari ni Gloria Dorobo sa DOJ, wala daw siyang pakialam sa sinasabi ng mga bloggers ni Ellen, kasi mas alam daw niya ang ginagawa niya. Yup, alam niya pero alam ba niyang masama ang ginagawa niya? Iyan ang tanong.
Pero bilib ka rin sa mga choice of sickritari ni Gloria Dorobo, puro inutil, mokong at mokang, kasama na si Jesli Lapus para siguro di halatang mas inutil at mokang siya!
Dios mahabagin, hanggang kailan po ba makakatiis si Juan at Juana? Lord, kayo na po ang gumawa ng paraan malipol ang mga inutil, mokong at mokang. Daliin po ninyo kasi nagkakasala lang po kaming mga bloggers dito na hindi makatiis na hindi magmura. 😛
Marcelo is one of the few ” good men “
“It is a preventive measure aimed at helping and protecting the country’s most valuable resource, our youth,” ani Fajardo.
http://www.abante.com.ph/issue/jan1709/news03.htm
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‘lang’ya talaga ‘tong mga sinungaling at bugaw ng malakanyang, oo.
walang alam gawin kundi lokohin ang tao gayung ‘yung kanilang bulok na istayl eh matagal nang buko!
lorelying fajardo, sayang ka nga talaga!
nagmumukha kang tanga!
Paki-rambol mo nga yung title ng thread, Magno.
Sa akin ang lumabas, “Drug syndicates giving to Amo”.