Malaya report:
A separate resolution on the mode for Charter Change being circulated by Rep. Juan Miguel Arroyo (Lakas, Pampanga) was also signed by 150 congressmen, a source from the majority bloc said.
The resolution, which calls for the convening of a Constituent Assembly (Con-ass), is authored by Kampi president and Camarines Sur Rep. Luis Villafuerte, the source said.
Inquirer: Mikey leads cha-cha bid
This is what the five bishops warned about just three weeks ago: Gloria Arroyo will ram Charter Change down the people’s throats.
The report from the House of Representatives yesterday said House resolution 737 amending the economic provision of the Constitution has been signed by 163 congressmen. House Speaker Prospero Nograles, who authored the resolution, needs only 15 more signatures to meet the required 175 signatures, representing three-fourth of the House of Representatives to bring the resolution to the Committee on Constitutional Amendments, then to the plenary..
The Cha-Cha train is cranking up and is expected to leave the station in the coming days to a destination beyond 2010.
This is what Press Secretary Jesus Dureza had prayed for last Tuesday at the start of the cabinet meeting: that Gloria Arroyo “have forbearance, good health, and tolerance to lead this nation until 2010, and who knows, perhaps even beyond.”
It was not a slip of the tongue. It was an announcement.
It’s not a surprise. In fact, it’s a confirmation of what Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, president of the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines and Lingayen Archbishop Oscar Cruz said last Oct. 29 in a press conference.
Cruz said, “When congress opens in Nov. 10, charter change will be an open, public and well funded move in the lower house. Whether it will triumph in the Senate is still debatable. But then I repeat, no more camouflage, no more double-talk, no more indirect insinuations, but Charter Change will be an honest-to-goodness agenda for Congress.”
Cruz further said, “that elections in 2010 is a big dream, in short elections in 2010 is a moral impossibility. “
Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay, president of the United Opposition, said time is running out for Arroyo and her allies. “By middle of 2009, people will be talking about the 2010 elections. If they (majority congressmen) are going to embark on a last-ditch effort for Charter change for Mrs. Arroyo’s benefit, they have to do it now.”
Binay said pro-Arroyo local executives and her House allies conducted public consultations on the issue of amending the Constitution while Congress was on a month-long recess. He said more than 100 pro-Arroyo congressmen are expected to report an “overwhelming consensus” in favor of Charter change.
“The Cha-Cha express is all set. And we should brace ourselves in the next few weeks for a final attempt to extend Mrs. Arroyo’s stay in Malacañang,” Binay warned.
Arroyo and her allies had attempted several times to amend the Constitution to shift from presidential to parliamentary system so Arroyo could remain in power beyond 2010. In December 2006, the House of Representatives led by then House Speaker Jose de Venecia railroaded a resolution calling for a Senate-less Constitutional Assembly. They had to back off after a few days when the Catholic church including the Iglesia ni Cristo, warned of massive protests against it.
Just two months ago, Arroyo tried to smuggle charter change in the Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. The Supreme Court declared the MOA unconstitutional.
Pro-chacha advocates are trying another tack with HR 737. Nograles is of the view that Congress can actually amend specific provisions of the Constitution without going through the usual process of charter change.
HR 737 calls for the amendment of Sections 2 and 3 of Article 12 of the Constitution “to allow the acquisition by foreign corporations and associations and the transfer or conveyance thereto, of alienable public and private lands.”
Nograles said that while a mere resolution, even if approved by the majority members of the House of Representatives, does not have the effect of law, it can still serve as the basis of raising a point of constitutional inquiry before the Supreme Court.
“If the Supreme Court says that Congress can enact laws that in effect will repeal specific provisions of the Constitution, then we might be able to avoid this protracted legal and constitutional wrangling on how we can attune the Constitution to the new challenges confronting our country,” he said.
It is feared that with several Supreme Court justices up for retirement next year, Arroyo would be able to pack the high court with justices who would declare as legal a resolution to amend the Constitution without participation of the Senate.
Binay said surveys after surveys have shown that the people are overwhelmingly against charter change that will allow Arroyo to stay in power beyond 2010.
“If Malacañang pushes through with Cha-Cha despite public opinion, this could well be the tipping point for the movement to remove an unpopular pretender to the presidency,” he warned.
It could be just what the country needed.
Gloria pushing through with Cha-Cha despite public opinion “could be just what the country needed”.
Bilis-bilisan ni Gloria at nang magkasubukan na!
GMA tongressmen are just testing public pulse in amending economic provision of the Constitution that would allow 100 percent ownership. Everybody knows they have a hidden agenda to revise the 1987 Philippine Constitution and give Gloria Arroyo vast powers in the transitory provision.
I also read somewhere that there are stumbling blocks for the Arroyo allies to push thru with the cha-cha. These are the LP and the NP congressmen who forms part of the rainbow coalition in the lower house. They do not sit well with the thought of extending the term of GMA as both political parties have candidates for president in 2010, namely Roxas II of LP and Villar of NP. Question is, are the members loyal to their respective parties or are they easily swayed by promises of lots of bon-bons?
If they continue to pursue cha-cha more aggresively,that bogus president and company are in the point of no return. They’re in deep sh*t…
NO to Charter Change!!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=46627160604
Kasi noon kung naniwala lang ang mga bishops noon na Gloria is greedy in power di sana wala ng problema. Ang dami ng pumuntang tao sa makati around 200,000 (ZTE rally) para sa katotohan kaso naging bingi ang simbahan naniwala sila sa administration…ilan beses na ba ang panawagan nila stop corruption eh since 2002 narinig ko na yan 2008 na ganoon pa din. Malabong ma outnumbered ang congress dahil kay Gloria yan people power lang talaga ang puwedeng maka dami ng bilang laban sa mga congressmen.
“KAYA NATIN ITO…YES WE CAN”
This Cha-Cha will not reach the finish line.There will be no checkered flag.Even the lower house will pass this bill it’s still a long process,the senate will kill the golden goose of Arroyo.This will still goes to referendum.Relax! Let Nograles have a good dream right now later he’ll wake up in a bad nightmare.Next month is 2009,by May this politicians are busy on their schedule campaigning.
The Equalizer Says, NO to Charter Change!
I second the motion!
Dapat lang cocoy, pagod na ang taong-Bayan…puro sila sakit ng ulo at wala ng inisip na maganda para sa Bayan?
Ang daming issues na dapat resolbahin, pero ANO ang kanilang pinaggagagawa? Nandiyan ang JOKE JOKE scam, Euro Gen., ZTE, 200M double insertion, at marami pang iba eh bakit hindi ito ang kanilang atupagin.
Puro sila magagaling sa dakdak, wala namang nangyayari sa Bayan, lalo lang naghihirap at confuse na ang tao sa kanilang kadramahan sa buhay.
Magsitigil na sila, dapat yan ang trabahuhin ng mga NPA o kaya ng mga peaceful and loving Pinoy para matauhan ang mga iyan.
Pag di nagsitigil eh bigyan ng ultimatum!
Magkano kaya ang lagay para pumirma sa resolution?
jojovelas2005,
Kailangang managawan tayo sa mga may kamag-anak na Militar, sila ang ating pag-asa upang sipain ang gobyernong ito na pahirap.
Nakasalalay sa militar ang pagbagsak ng pasistang gobyernong ito, kaya sila ang ating suyuin at pakiusapan…at wag na itong mga Bishops.
Si Gen. Lim, Gen. Miranda, Col. Querubin and co. ang kailangan natin sampu nang mga magigiting natin sundalo sa Sandatahang Lakas ng Pinas!
DKG, aba eh si JOKE JOKE ang makakasagot niyan! Bakit kamo, di ba denied to death ang mga tongresman na wala silang tinanggap noong 2004. Eh saan napunta ang 780M + kung listahan lang ni Joke Joke ang pagbabasihan.
Sira ulo lang maniwala kay Joc-Joc. Akala niya naisahan niya ang taumbayan. May araw din siya.
There are two missing important ingredients for a successful ouster of Gloria Arroyo. They are the patriotic citizens and the soldiers of the Filipino people. Aksyon Na!
Business leaders join 5 Catholic bishops, call for ‘new governance’
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/11/20/08/business-leaders-join-5-catholic-bishops-call-new-governance
Ka Balweg, ngayon lang tayo magkaiba ng pananaw. YES to Charter Change ako…….para matapos na to. Kung di nila ituloy yan, baka mawalan na naman ng gana ang mga palaban. Sige mga Kongresistang Bulok, ituloy nyo ang Charter Change!!! Bilissssss
Sir Sulbatz psywar game ito kaya walang iwanan!
Tuloy ang ligaya sa magulong mundo ng pulitika, pasasaan ba at mananaig pa rin ang katotohanan.
Eh pabor ka pala sa Cha-cha in what aspect of pagbabago na nais mo, kasi masyadong broad ang isyung ito at wala pang kalinawan kung ano ang gusto nilang mangyari.
Neutral pa ako sa issue na ito at kinikilatis ko muna kung ano ba ang tunay na pakay ng mga nagsusulong nito.
Sa ngayon at nitong nagdaang mga taon eh iba’t ibang aspeto ang gusto nilang mangyari pero di pa kinakagat ng Bayan. But, nagwika ang mga Senador natin na kung may cha-cha eh after 2010 na NOT now so malaking debate ito sa mga Pabor at Kotra.
DKG,
Ibig mo bagaang sabihin eh wala na sa katinuan ng pag-iisip ang mga alipores ni Pandak?
Kaya pala kung anu-ano na ang bukang-bibig nila, kaya ingat tayong lahat baka ibenta na nila ang Pinas.
Balweg:
Matagal nang gustong ibenta ni Gloria Dorobo ang Pilipinas na akala mo pag-aari niya. Pero bilib ka rin sa pagkaulol ng mga bayaran niya sa Congress at Senate na sinusunod ang gusto niya. Lalong bilib ka sa mga tuod na pilipino na walang pakialam kahit na anong mangyari sa bansa nila. Dito iyan naghalo na ang balat sa tinalupan.
Hinubog kasi ang mga pilipinong walang kuwenta ang bansa nila. My observation in fact sa karamihan sa mga nakalusot na makapasok ng Japan sa totoo lang. “Que sihoda kung mamayani si Gloria Dorobo!” sabi nila. Anyway, kung makakuha daw sila ng permanent residency sa Japan, hindi na sila uuwi kaya marami dito ngayon, hinahakot na ang mga pamilya pa-Japan kahit na hindi mabigyan ng permit to stay.
Iyan ang nakakalungkot. Kaya nga sabi ko, “Kawawang Pilipinas!” Nilalayasan na lang when the sailing gets bad.
Papalit-palit hindi naman naiintindihan. Sa totoo lang, pinag-aralan naman ng mga gumawa ng Saligang Batas noong panahon ni Quezon kung ano ang talagang pamahalaang umpak sa pag-iisip ng mga pilipino kaya lang nga ang masama nang ibigay ng mga kano ang Pilipinas sa mga pilipino siniguro nilang hawak pa rin nila sa leeg ang mga pilipino kaya pinili nilang mamumuno sa mga pilipino iyong mga kilala nang mga kurakot bago pa mag-WWII.
Wala naman talaga sa palakad ng pamahalaan kung tutuusin ang problema kundi nandoon sa mga kurakot na nagpapalakad ng bansa na sinisigurong ang karamihan ng mga pilipino ay hindi hahango sa kanilang kamangmangan. Pag-dumunong naman, sadya namang hinihikayat na umalis ng Pilipinas para hindi makagulo.
In short, talaga bang wala nang magagawa? Wala nang pag-asa?
Kawawang bansa!
Golly, kung iyon ngang Federalism daw hindi naman naiintindihan ng mga mokong, isinusulong! Sa totoo lang, dito sa bansa ng Hapon, matagal nang ipinapairal ang panukalang kahawig ng gusto sanang isulong ni Senator Pimentel, autonomy ng bawat probinsiya sa Pilipinas without any of them trying to separate from the Philippines gaya ng gustong mangyari noong mga nagsusulong ng Bansangmoro na total independence from the Philippines. Bawat probinsiya dito may kani-kaniyang autonomy lalo na sa pagkolekta ng buwis ng mga residents nila, at paggastos ng perang nakolekta. In fact, ang alam ko pinag-aaralan ng ibang bansa ang patakaran sa Japan maging iyong tungkol sa welfare at pension.
Golly ang liit na bansa pero inaasahan ng America na tumulong na isalba ang ekonomiya ng higanteng bansa! Iyan ang accomplishment hindi katulad noong iniyayabang ni Gloria Magnanakaw na pagpapatalsik sa mga pilipino para isalba ang kabulastugan niya!
Reminds me of an ad I saw today sa Tokyo tungkol sa bid ng Tokyo na dito ulit gawin ang Olympics pagkatapos ng London. Literally translated ang sabi ng karatula, “Mga hapon kasi tayo, kaya puedeng-puede ang Olympics!,” meaning kayang gawin ng mga hapon.
Kelan kaya mangyayari iyan sa Pilipinas na walang palpak?
Di nakakasiguro si Gloria, baka kaya lang pipirma ang mga tonggressmen eh dahil sa pangakong bonbons. Ang problema eh, ikakampanya ba ng mga ito sa plebesito ang cha-cha??? Kaya ba nilang kumbinsihin ang taong bayan para bumoto ng yes? Di rin sila nakakasiguro sa pandaraya dahil siguradong landslide ang lamang ng NO sa cha-cha, mahirap dayain. Last option ni Gloria? Actually 2 options. No.1 option: Martial Law and No. 2 option: Tatakas palabas ng Pilipinas.
Kelan kaya mangyayari iyan sa Pilipinas na walang palpak?
Sa yabang at kwento pwedeng ipangalandakan ni Pandak, but yong realidad… sa pagputi ng uwak, at pag-itim ng tagak!
grizzy,
Korek ka, bakit kamo…kasi ang Pinoy ang banyaga sa sariling Bayan sapagka’t halos yaong malalaking lupain ng Pinas eh pag-aari na ng mga Intsik o ibang banyaga.
Kita mo, aasap ang iyong mata sa mga news sa Pinas… akalain mo na ang daming squatters + yong mga professional squatters.
Kung magbobotohan ngayon mas pipiliin pa ng Pinoy na maging isang state tayo ng US o kaya ibenta na sa gustong bumili nito para itong mga kapal mukz na politiko eh di na pwedeng maghari-harian.
Ang kaso isang katutak namang koreano at intsik sinamahan pa ng mga bombay ang makikita mo sa Pinas. Gusto nilang manirahan dito kasi nga ang daling manuhol at suhulan.
Mike,
With the Dems lording it over the US government, it’s my guess that declaring martial law is not an option for Gloria now unless she is ready to collide head-on with the White House.
Kaya ang tingin ko ay pinagpipilitan ang cha-cha. With 80% of the country’s population against this move and can take to the streets anytime, the impakta will only have two options: 1) to go on with the 2010 elections, or 2)”tatakas ng palabas sa Pinas”.
On the other hand, even with that 80% against cha-cha, it is the kapinuyan who will have no option at all if they won’t join a massive action to stop the train…it’s Gloria beyond 2010.
Pampanga Rep. Juan Miguel “Mikey” Arroyo’s campaign has secured between 120 and 150 signatures on a resolution calling on the Senate and the House to amend the Constitution by voting jointly and not separately, according to Iloilo Rep. Raul Gonzalez Jr.
…Fuck this Mikey Horse! Many times he told the media and public that he was against Cha-Cha…an now!
BE: Many times he told the media and public that he was against Cha-Cha…an now!
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Kunyari lang iyan. Puede ba siyang tumaliwas sa gusto ng mga swapang na magulang niya? Dugong aso yata iyan na nahaluan pa ng lahing tikbalang—iyong umiinom ng dugo ng mga pilipino!
Kawawang Pilipinas! Rebolusyon na kapag pinalusot iyang Cha-Cha na iyan to benefit the magnanakaw! Heaven forbid! Gabaan sana silang lahat!
After almost eight years, nothing is impossible for the wh*re Gloria. As we already know, wh*re Gloria is most capable of doing anything to remain in power. I will never under estimate the wh*re.
Whore Gloria is ready for showdown, if need be, I suppose. Does the “one million warm bodies” is ready to go out on the street to stop the wh*re? Yet, remain to be seen.
I’ve been asking and looking for those “one million warm bodies” for eight years now.
The Cha-Cha will not push through.But even if the congress pass this constitutional amendment,Congress will still need implementing legislation to execute a plan.
Congress will have to negotiate the details and fill in the blanks in order to make any constitutional amendment worth the paper that it is written on. There is no guarantee that this plan, which will have to be a byproduct of negotiations with the wish of Malacanang, will endorse investments in our country.Malacanang have been fighting this fight for years.This Cha-Cha is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.
The occupants of Malacanang, have preached the doctrine of amendment to the Constitution so incessantly that the Filipino people have overwhelmingly succumbed to the siren call and have come to believe that such an amendment will, indeed, cure all of problem in poverty,injustice and corruption and their elected representatives in lower Houses have become so enamored with the idea that they may, in fact, be in real danger of witnessing the adoption by of such an amendment.Congress do not represent the whole country,they only represent their own district.Senators are: because they are elected nationwide.Congress could not pass this Cha-Cha without the cooperation of the Senate.Period and no Question mark.
para sa akin mahalaga pa din ang botohan kahit paano makakapili although grabe sa atin ang dayaan unlike sa cha-cha sila sila pa din ang mamimili I can’t imagine Sen. Lapid will continue to be lawmaker dahil in cha-cha automatic assemblymen ang mga senators. Take the case of Sen. Trillanes at Gov. Padacan kung walang botohan malabo silang maupo so kung minsan kahit grabe ang pangdadaya pero kung grabe yun suporta ng tao mahirap dayain.
Kailangan talaga magkaroon ng mga debate like here in US para naman kahit paano makatulong sa pagpili ang mga tao. Enough of popularity dapat may platform at magkaalaman kung sino talaga ang may alam sa isyu.
Binay may be right. Ramming cha-cha into the sambayanan may be the catalyst to get rid of PGMA. Nevertheless, it would serve the country better to stop pandakekok on her cha-cha tracks before it gains momentum. Waiting for it’s consequence may be too costly.
What are Filipinos waiting for? Christmas!!!All talk and no action–what’s going on?
Action isn’t always better than talk. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is to do nothing. But when action is needed, or when talk is getting in the way, it’s time to scan for obstacles.
Mag chacha tayo. Its good for our health. We have so many ills to heal. And cancerous cells to klll.
Here’s the question:
What if there’s a provision in the proposed amendment of the constitution states that any change (Cha-Cha) would take effect after 2010? Is this acceptable?
BE, any Cha-cha after 2010 will not serve the purpose of extending the term of the evil bitch! She has so many sins to the Filipino people that she is afraid to ever step down! She will do everything and anything in her power (using our money to bribe everybody) so her term will be extended!
I asked and mentioned that because many of those congressmen even if allied with the Evil Bitch are in favor of Cha-Cha provided that it shall commence after 2010 meaning no one including the Bitch can extend their terms. One who has this position is Rep. Mat Defensor.
By now, everyone knows that it’s the Presidential Son Mikey Horse who’s going around soliciting for signatures for Cha-Cha. Who can say no to him, the son of the fake President? It was also this Mikey Horse upon instruction from his Big Dad who caused the ouster of JDV as House Speaker.
Speaking of the Horse Shit, my source told me that he’s regularly renting a mansion outside of Metro Manila for his sex escapade with his buddies in Congress. I pity his lovely wife…
BE, anything is possible with the evil bitch! She cheated not ONCE but TWICE sabi nga ni Susan. So now her third cheating operation is no longer just cheating. IT WILL BE A FORCED TAKEOVER!
The only way this cha cha can be stopped is if these so called “opposition” will put their heads and strengths together to stop the train! Kung kanya kanya silang kumikilos, the evil bitch will prevail. The evil bitch knows how to feed her dogs and pull their leashes when needed! She even bring her dogs to trips all over the world. When caught in their illegal operations, her dogs have unlimited legal defense. Kung nagkakasakit naman, nandyan ang private room sa St Luke’s with a top doctor like Saavedra pa and personal doctor! Kung nakukulong naman sa murder, rape, plunder at kahit na anong karumaldumal na krimen, may instant pardon pa. WOW! Kaya ba ng opposition ibigay itong mga perks na ito sa mga taong sumusuporta sa kanila? They can not even show unity amongst themselves, how can they lead their flock?
See, libre pa pala ang “sex” sa mga dogs nila! Wow talaga!
Dureza’s prayer is the magic word that signals the lapdogs in the house of thieves to speed up the cha cha train. Just like school kids na mga “uto-uto”,they hurried inside the classroom and immediately disposed of the three impeachment cases. One more to go but expect that this remaining case endorsed by JDV will not die a natural death but by murder. They have to get rid of everything that will serve as a distraction so that they can go full speed in railroading the cha cha before they run out of time. They have an itinerary for the flight plan and barring some snags on the way it should reach it’s intended destination before 2010.
Wala na sigurong tatalo sa kasakiman ng pamilya Arroyo! Wala sa kalingkingan si Marcos. Sobra na ang garapal! Panay ang biyahe at pagpapakasarap ng pamilya, panay pa ang kita sa mga malalaking kontrata. Nakalusot na nga sa pandaraya matapos mang agaw ng posisyon, ngayon, ayaw ng umalis sa poder!
Grabe! Bayan, hanggang kailan ba papayagan ang pagmamalabis ng pamilya Arroyo???
bitchevil: Here’s the question:
What if there’s a provision in the proposed amendment of the constitution states that any change (Cha-Cha) would take effect after 2010? Is this acceptable?
Sen Pimentel is pushing for a federal form of government and the only way to do that is charter change. But not in a manner Mikey the horsie and Luis Villa-PWE-rte would want it to be. Both houses must vote separately!
I maintain my stand that Cha-cha is good only if it will take effect after the 2010 election and Whore-ia is out of the picture and inside the cold cell.
Unconfirmed report says that eight (8) Senators signed in favor of Cha-Cha !
BE, top on the list na si Lito Lapida, tapos si playboy Revilla. Baka yung dalawang magkapatid na Cayetano, si Angara, si Joker. Yung dalawa baka si Money Villar at si Gordon o si Enrile. Miriam may be the ally of the evil bitch but not anymore after she was not able to get the International Justice position. Mukhanmg lumalaban na siya kay evil bitch.
Ang masaklap dyan, kung madedenggoy na naman ang mga Pinoy at ang manalo sa 2010 kung sakali at may eleksyon nga eh ala Cayetano at Money villar pala. Opposition kuno pero hindi naman pala. Ang hirap magtiwala sa mga trapo talaga.
PSB,
did you mean basahan when you say trapo? may pagkakaiba ba yun? he he he
MS, right you are! Basahan!
What if there’s a provision in the proposed amendment of the constitution states that any change (Cha-Cha) would take effect after 2010? Is this acceptable?
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No. The problem is, when you convene the con-ass, anything under the sun is proposable, including parliamentarism. In fact, if you notice, the House resolution is innocuous – amendments to the economic provisions of the Constitution kuno. Papalitan ang 60-40 ownership to help bring in foreign investments.
Relax lang. Even if they have 200 votes at the House, for as long as the Senate refuses to meet, there will be no cha-cha. The Constitution says they must vote in joint session assembled. So hindi parang regular law yan, where the bill is deliberated in each house.
How can there be a joint session, the Senate must vote to attend a joint session; so even if renegade Senators agree to meet, if there is no authority from their chamber, they are just visiting the House in their personal capacity.
Ingay lang yan, then they will say the people want it. They will get the local govs to make the noise.
chi,
sinasamantala ng mga Malacanang operators ang pagiging lameduck president ni GW Bush.
kaya, sa mga kukupad-kupad, BAKA bago pa ang January 20, 2009 (ang inauguration ni president-elect Barack), pag hindi tayo kikilos: meron ng bagong Constitution.
at president-for-life na, si Gloria! ligtas at baon na sa limot ang kanyang mga kriminal na aktibidades!
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Ano kaya kung ang sagot ng Bayan ay: Isang Linggo na araw-araw na pagkilos sa Mendiola ? Now, Na!
The Inquirer article linked here says:
He said the signatories were told that once the measure secured the required number of votes, it would be used to force the Supreme Court to rule on how the Con-ass should vote to amend the Constitution.
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Palpak. Kung wala pang joint session, the question of whether or not to vote jointly or separately is premature, ang sinasabing “not ripe for adjudication”. Madi-dismiss yan, because the Senate will not render an advisory opinion. Why advisory? Because, kung walang meeting, walang vote; so the manner of voting is hypothetical. Kung may “away na” or “dispute” saka papasok ang Court. Before that, any question is merely hypothetical.
atorni,
mahirap yang relax lang…, ganyan din hindi ba ang nangyari kaya nagkaroon ng 1972 Marcos Constitution?
minsan yung ang problema sa mga legal-work wonks, nakakaligtaan ang leksyon halaw mula sa mga diktador:
kailan ba sumunod sa rules of law, ang mga ito?
zen2:
Gusto niyong kumilos, then labanan si Mikey with our own signature drive. Do what California did. Get the people to amend the Constitution, with that single amendment I proposed last year, ending her term, to institute snap elections.
The new president gets the remainder of her term plus six, and the succeeding ones get six each again.
OR
Let the people propose their amendment to be an alternative choice to the ratification of their revision. So the vote will be, do you ratify the proposed revision, or do you ratify the mere amendment. The people check yes to the revision, or yes to the amendment.
Touché. You use their own referendum to defeat their proposed revision. But of course, tawagin si Jawo, to guard Garci.
andres,
Ang dapat bweltahan ng anti-GMA eh yaong nagsiboto at nagpagamit para makadaya last 2004?
Particular na yong mga taga-South na naging die-hard supporters ng pandakekok.
Di natin masisisi ang mga nakaupong kurap tonggresman at senador kasi ganito yon…. ang botong more than 1M ang nagpanalo kay pandakekok plus yong dagdag-bawas ni hello garci sa mindanao.
Sila ang ugat o cancer ng ating lipunan na ibinenta ang kanilang kaluluwa sa gobyernong ito. At least whatever happened sa Pinas eh di tayo accountable kasi po di naman natin ibito ang pekeng presidente, di ba!
Walang unang pagsisi, kung kaya magpahinog tayong lahat sa katangahan at ugali’t asal ng iba nating kababayan na bulag at di marunong pumili ng tamang kandidato.
Obvious noon pa si pandakekok sapagka’t nang-agaw na ng puder e singaling pa na di na raw tatakbo last 2004.
Kaya yong singaling eh kapatid ng tangengok kaya heto magtiis tayong lahat sa kanyang manhid at walang pusong pamumuno.
Someone said…. “Do not interfere when the ENEMY is in the process of destroying themselves.”
Maybe, the more that we should encourage them. Go ChaCha Go!!!
“There are no tyrants where there are no slaves.”
— José Rizal, El Filibusterismo
Hubris: overweening pride, self-confidence, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution!
Allow me to refresh all of us here that according to a General in the Palace, “Di natin ibibigay ‘to ng walang laban.”
Therefore, if real and meaningful change is what we want, Peaceful Revolution is never an option. We’ve done that so many times before, and not everybody came.
Sigawan sa kalsada… sindi ng kandila… kantahan… kantiyawan… colorful flags… bold-inscribed banners and placards – all of these cannot evict a cunning vicious Criminal who’s willing to fight it out to the finish.
So let’s make up our minds about the methods and the specific goals by which we must proceed.
Dapat specific at detalyado ang layunin; di mga bulaklaking kataga na may halong pag-alinlangan (paraan upang makalusot sa legal consequence kung sakaling di magtagumpay). Dapat all the way sa salita at aksyon.
Kung makumbinsi natin ang mga tao sa object ng pag-alsa, baka darating sila.
At saka sa susunod na pag-alsa, dapat hayaan ng mga taga-media na makapagsalita ng maayos ang mga namumuno upang malinaw na marinig ang mensahe para sa Bayan… dahil magulo kayo, noong Peninsula Seige.
Sumpit:
Remember:Power is never given; it is always taken!
Then by all means shall it be taken.
i too hope that if the cha-cha pushes through may it serve as the tool to severe the final straw in filipinos’ endurance of gloria’s power trippings.
tama na!
nak ng toot, masyado naman atang minamaliit ni pichay ang kaisipan ng mga pilipino. tsk…
well i guess we all better watchout..!!
for the next move of the congressman..!!
Congress..
intends to amend the bible..
after they are done with our constitution,
that all their position from GMA down the
line be extended thru cha-cha.!!
they intend next to abolish hell
before their term on earth expire..!!
this people are so evil..!!
they will do anything even
giving their soul to the devil..
Pinaglalaruan ang ating Constitution dahil lang sa hangad ma-extend ang term nila. Dapat alamin kung sino-sino ang mga pumirma at i-firing squad lahat kasama ang mga Arroyo’s.
Dapat ay isama sa eleksiyon sa 2010 kung gusto ng mga taongbayan ang cha-cha para mapaghandaan ng husto ng mga bagong elect kung papasa ito. Hindi yong minamadali para lang ma-extend ang kani-kanilang term. Ayaw na nga ng mga tao sa kanila … ipinagpipilit pa lalo na yang Glorya na nabansagang kurap, sinuungaling, magnanakaw at kriminal. Lahat na lang ay puro kadayaan ang ginagawa ng mga tangnang yan.
My concept of a non-violent revolution is not limited to EDSA. The proposal of the people in California is the best example of a grassroots movement to change the Constitution; although I am personally against the substance. Hayaan ang mga bading na mag-asawa – that’s their business.
But we can use the method for the Philippines, to shorten Glue’s term.
In California, gumalaw ang mga anti bading, ang mga Mormons, at ibang interesado. Are we saying fewer people are after change in leadership in 2010? Alin ang mas mahirap? Ang kumuha ng pirma? O ang maghikayat ng milyon-milyong naghahanap-buhay na tumayo sa EDSA.
Masyado na ang fixation natin sa EDSA. It was a moment in time, produced by many factors that we cannot reproduce on demand. Kahit yung Dos nila Glue ay peke.
Para yang first love, or even great sex, or yung unang beses kang nalasing. Ang habol na lahat ay “Sana Maulit Muli”. Ngunit hindi mauulit, uminom ka man nang marami, manligaw ka man nang marami, or mag-conquista nang marami. So do something else. Kumuha ng pirma.
My wife and I have already decided we’d join protest actions against Chacha.
I wonder why is it taking too darned long for civil society to organize the rallies.
Gising!!!! Those sons of bitches in Congress might take such delayed reaction as consent.
I wonder if Arroyo hadn’t cast some sort of stupefaction spell on the populace.
Aba, malapit na maging alipin e pabandying bandying pa.
Bakit parang dito lang sa Ellenville may outrage and indignation??
Skip:
Sama kami diyan, at ang mga kaibigan namim. Rally Laban sa CHA-CHA! Sa Martes daw ang public consultation, sana sa Lunes pa lang ay mag rally na ang taungbayan laban sa Cha-Cha na ito.
Dito natin makikita, kung ano ang priority ng mga representatives ng tao. sarili nilang kapakanan muna, bago ang taumbayan!
Punyemas talaga, GISING na mga Kababayan Ko! Bugbog sarado na tayo sa kasuklaman at ganid ng mga Arroyo, sampu, ng mga Alipores nito sa Kongreso at Senado.
Panahon na po, upang ipagtanggol na natin ang ating mga sarili, para sa ating kinabukasan, at higit sa lahat, para sa kinabukasan ng ating mga mahal sa buhay.
Sana ay magbalik ang pagmamahal ng bawat Filipino sa Pilipinas!
“I wonder why is it taking too darned long for civil society to organize the rallies.”
Skip,
Noli Kabayad is the civil society’s main problem. As long as he is ‘there’, they will have second thought of organizing rallies to knock out the ugly bitch. I hope the civil society will be enlightened that Pinas muna bago ang super huge na ego nila! When Gloria is out, so is Noli! Who will protect Noli during a massive action against this fake administration? Baka una pa sya na lalabas ng Pinas sa takot.
And yes, we don’t know the thinking of the militar. I’m guessing they are just waiting for us.
Maydangalkaba,
Magkikita kita tayo doon, kaibigan. Sinusubukan kong himukin din lahat ng mga kakilala ko. Panay ang post ko sa mga egroups at googlegroups na kabilang ako. Isang malaking kasalanan sa bayan at sa mga anak natin pag tayo’y nanahimik sa isyung ito.
Chi,
Baka nga.
Civil society’s probably thinking that the flawed EDSA II model should be followed where the siting VP replaced the ousted president.
But as long as we’re ousting Gloria, we might as well oust Kabayad too.
CJ Puno, however reluctant he sounds now, would eventually see that the country needs him to temporarily lead the caretaker government until elections are held.
You are right, Arroyo cannnot be too sure that Yano wouldn’t be siding with the people.
Wh*re Gloria is so predictable! Lets be cleared, the wh*re is not giving up Malacanang unless it’s force taken from her. And we should be used with the wh*re’s corrupt behavior by now, unhonorable wh*re without no shame nor integrity, almost eight years is the testimony to the facts. The wh*re will do anything and everything to remain in power, that you can take to Jose Pidal accounts. Not quite there yet, but it’ll come. The script (The Last Resort, by the wh*re) has been written and now being formulated in Congress, where it make more sense than martial law on the streets. It appeared, with all the commotion or excitement in Congress lately, express non-stop train is coming, cha-cha is the recipe of the day in Congress. Cha-cha is a better choice than Martial Law. Since, Congress will make it a law of the land, the black robes will rubber stamp, gladly of course, the wh*re will sell it as the will of Congress and the people. A very simple plan, but effective.
One Million Warm Bodies, where are they?
One Million Warm Bolos, i prefer.
Ginawa na nilang moro-moro ang ating Saligang Batas. Tuwing patapos ang term, yan na lang ang laging ginagawa ng mga tangnang yan sama na rin diyan si Ramos.
Kung ano-ano ang mga rason kaysa ganito kaysa ganun … wala pong mali sa ating Constitution ginoong Matias Defensor…. ang mali ay kayong mga nahalal ng Bayan. Kung matino kayo e di sana masaya lahat kaso nandiyan lang kayo para pagparte-partehan ang kaban ng Bayan. Lalo na yang Pekeng Pangulo na hindi naman nahalal ngayon gusto baguhin pa para ma-extend for life ang termino niya. Ano ba yan … dapat talaga i-firing squad yang Glorya na yan … marami ng kasalanan sa Bayan. PUWEEEEEE!!!!!!
Trash the wh*re, but do not trust her!
Civil disobedient, One Million Warm Bodies and Revolution are the combined ingredients for success, there are no other option, if the people wants their country back from the hoodlums.
Congress and the Justices are in the tank with the wh*re, hence the wh*re will get what she want, it’s inevitable. People’s revolt is the key!
SumpPit,
Patay tayo lahat niyan. EK will armalite us all. Dapat ay hostage natin si Mikey at Dado as insurance and then tarakan ng 29 sa leeg at iharap sa mag-asawang Pidal while the one million warm bolos sway up in the air. Kakaripas sa exit ang mga yan.
Almost eight years of civilities didn’t work, in fact, failed miserably! All legal options has been exhausted, and the wh*re has beaten the people all the time, made a mockery of the legal justice. It’s now the moment to re-think other drastic measures. No more nice guys! Bolos? Our forefather did it, so why not. If I may add, I don’t think the wh*re got one million bullets. How about one million brown bags?
Just look around you, all the miseries, it’s seems no end in sight, there are no alternative. The people has already lost, so what else left to lose? Revolution????????????
Gloria Arroyo,Pride comes before the fall!
One Day In The Near Future:
Headline:”It’s All Over;The Pidals On Exile!”
“United States officials have arrested two former police officers facing murder charges for the deaths of publicist Salvador “Bubby” Dacer and his driver Emmanuel Corbito, Justice Undsersecretary Ricardo Blancaflor said Friday.
Cesar Mancao and Glenn Dumlao are facing murder charges before the Manila regional trial court.”
…..Why only now when the US could have arrested them earlier? They knew where they were. Is this another conspiracy between Bush’s about to end administration and Malacanang? Is it to destroy Ping Lacson or Erap again since the two are strong candidates for 2010?
Mancao said some people put him in trouble after he refused to make fabricated statements against Lacson.
He said that on September 2007 he received a call from Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines chief Brig. General Romeo Prestoza. The general offered him to migrate to Singapore with his family, according to Mancao.
He said Prestoza obviously wanted to use him in an alleged smear campaign against Lacson.
According to Mancao, he turned down Prestoza’s offer. Days later, he received an arrest warrant from the Interpol for allegedly taking part in the Dacer-Corbito murder. For his part, Prestoza did not comment on Mancao’s statement.
This was the second time within a month that an administration critic came out to accuse Malacañang of fabricating lies to destroy Lacson.
Recently, a US-based businesswoman who once linked Lacson to a controversial purchase of handcuffs worth P50 million has claimed that Malacañang had a hand in the trump up charges against the opposition lawmaker.
Ginoray,
I heard that interview of Nograles at DZBB. He also admitted that while he has a resolution for specific amendments, there is also a resolution authored by Villafuerte for a generic amendment. Meaning, ANYTHING GOES!
They will play up this HR737 on scrapping of the 60-40 split in business ownership by foreigners and then the Villafuerte “generic” resolution sneaks in. There is a real intent to remove term limits and perpetuate their dynasties til kingdom come.
I’ve said this many times before, like Sulbatz, I’m eager to hear them crank the chacha train engine. Chacha na!
If this is their bluff, for whatever their reasons, I’m all for calling the bluff! Go Chacha, Go!
A simple question the Evil Bitch can answer and say: Is she stepping down in 2010 or not? If she is, then tell it to the public. Declare it to the nation. If she changed her mind and did not fulfill her promise not to run in 2004 despite saying so, what more now when she’s silent and never says she’s stepping down?
On one hand, I suspect that this Cha-Cha noise is another diversionary tactic to cover up the recent big scams such as C-5, Bolante, Euro Generals, etc. Don’t you see people are now focused on Cha-Cha?
Civil unrest / revolt would be the better option, as gloria would never step aside. She has to be forcibly brought down, dragged out. Only this time, blood may be spilled, I just hope that it would be theirs.
I do not believe in sending them to exile, with all due respect to EQ. I would rather see them hanged, not in Luneta though, perhaps at the D.Macapagal Avenue, the most expensive road in the world. We should stamp out every branch and root of corruption, so as to totally eradicate this disease that has been plaguing the Philippine politics for such a long time.
RE-INDOCTRINATION of the populace would be the key, after we have succeeded in taking this SOB’s out of our system. Good governance must be instilled to the young people, who would soon after take the leadership of our nation. Schools should teach children on the ill-effects of Corruption. It should show the decline of the Republic due to corruption by public officials.
To achieve this, we first must WAKE up from this deep slumber and finally realize that the DEVIL himself has dawned upon us, while we were fast asleep.
My countrymen, it is time to reclaim our beloved Philippines. She has been trampled upon, gangraped and continued to be abused by the powers that be, who pretend
to be guardians and protectors.
The Philippines is comparable to an abandoned child, placed in the care of ABUSIVE AND MANIPULATIVE FOSTER PARENTS. (apologies for the caps… tks)
It looks to me that this administation is so confident that they can pull it off, Mikey, most especially, very brash indeed or should I say “very brave” (eh, Sulbatz?)
Maybe they really believe that the Filipino people won’t do anything about it when the time comes and that most are too preoccupied with survival that we will all just lie down and enjoy the inevitable rape.
…or is this an act of fear, insecurity, desperation? saan kaya pupulutin ang pamilyang Arroyo when they are not in power anymore?
maydangalkaba: Well said.
I think so, Jug. They seem to know that the people would not do anything. They know that people now only talk and no action. Otherwise, why would these bastards be so brave and shameless? More than ever, people now are being challenged. It’s now to high time to act.
Mga Kakosa may bagong balita ….. Inatake daw si Mike Arroyo. Hindi ko alam kung mag-saya ako o hindi. Puweee!!!!
Of course you should be very happy, Tedanz. We’ve been waiting for it long ago. It would have been better if he and the Evil Bitch both die in a plane crash. If we as Filipinos cannot stop their evil ways, divine intervention is necessary.
Karma is indeed working. May he die in shame.
Was the Senate coup that ousted Manuel Villar from the Senate presidency sealed over cotton candy in a farmhouse in Pangasinan?
Cotton candy was on the menu at the birthday party of Pangasinan Rep. Rachel Arenas held last Saturday in her farmhouse in Malasiqui, attended by two very special guests: President Arroyo and Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile. No other senators were present during the lunch.
…So, the rumor about Erap’s hand on Villar’s ouster was not true. Enrile, being a Malacanang’s ally, being placed by the Evil Bitch as Senate President was more believable. Erap was not aware of it. In fact, Jinggoy and Escudero were the last ones to sign the endorsement for Enrile. There’s a report that among the eight senators who signed in favor of Cha-Cha was Migs Zubiri. No wonder he was immediately appointed by Enrile as Majority Floor Leader.
Off Topic:
Condolence to Ping Lacson for the passing away of her beloved father. Very recently, his mother also passed away. Now, Lacson’s two parents are dead. Erap visited the wake of Ping’s father. I think they have fully reconciled since the 2004 election. Good for the opposition.
BE, I read that article about Enrile being with the evil bitch in Pangasinan by themselves seated right next to each other days before the senate coup. Then came the senate coup! Was that when the coup was hatched? Somehow, the senate coup was done to benefit the evil bitch one way or the other. Naisahan na naman ang mga opposition senators!
Now the Dacer case is being re-opened. I heard siRAULO saying way back then na may mga testigo siyang itinatago laban kay Lacson. So, this is how the underworld work, a TIT for TAT! Now they want to silence Lacson just like they did to Honasan. Talagang walang mangyayari sa mga ito dahil wala na silang ginagawa kundi magtrabaho para sa mga sarili nila. As usual it is palabasan ng baho. But the evil bitch and her cabal seem to have more resources to bribe people to lie and lie! Kung wala kang pera, lagot ka!
Right. It wasn’t the work of Erap but Malacanang.
Ingat lang si Lacson sa mga paid witnesses. Money is tight these days and anyone can always use some extra cash lalo na kung doled out lang. Ni walang tax na kakaltasin at katulad ng kaso ni Bulate, can not be traced.
That’s why the two Lacson men are being extradited to the Philippines because the two refused to be paid to pin down Lacson on Dacer’s murder.
Where are the million warm bodies? they are in the states, some in the motels, many are snatching cell phones, others are robbing banks. You see, they are that practical. They can easily stuff their intestines. Ask them why they are there, and they will tell you to mind your own racket.
This Cha-Cha thing would end up at Supreme Court. That’s why we must watch the next Justices to be appointed.
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well said statements by sumpit and maydangalkaba. i totally agree…
Ang cha-cha…. bow! Ang hirit ni mickey mouse tuloy ang cha-cha…ang sagot ng Pinoy tapusin ang laban.
Di ba yang si mickey mouse eh lahing makapili, eh dapat bigyan yan ng leksyon ng matauhan at magpakatutuo sa sarili.
Papayag ba kayo na dustain na lamang ang ating pagkatao ng mga makapiling ito, tutal ilan lang naman sila sa bilang eh kailangan turuan ng leksyon ang mga traydor na yan sa bayan.
Ang Sandatahang Lakas ng Masang Pilipino ang tangi nating pag-asa sapagka’t wala tayong aasang sa ating awtoridad, puro sila kurap.
Some people just dont realize yet what they drum about everyday are precursors of change in the constitution. We have a constitution custom tailored to the corrupt administrations since it came about. We are only wary of certain portions that may improve such corruptions. If that is our culture , so be it. Let us drain out some of those DNAs if necessary.
It is feared that with several Supreme Court justices up for retirement next year, Arroyo would be able to pack the high court with justices who would declare as legal a resolution to amend the Constitution without participation of the Senate.
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The JBC Rules state in part that:
Votes required when integrity of a qualified applicant is challenged. – In every case where the integrity of an applicant who is not otherwise disqualified for nomination is raised or challenged, the affirmative vote of all the Members of the Council must be obtained for the favorable consideration of his nomination. (Rule 10, Section 2)
Ang kailangan lang ng oppositor is one vote; hopefully, that’s CJ Puno’s vote against Devanadera.
Rule 4 Section 4 further states that:
Anonymous complaints against an applicant shall not be given due course, unless there appears on its face a probable cause sufficient to engender belief that the allegations may be true. In the latter case, the Council may either direct a discreet investigation or require the applicant to comment thereon in writing or during the interview.
So if anybody has the goods on the GMA lackeys, spill them. You don’t have to sign anyway. All that is required is particular allegations, to trigger a “discreet investigation”.
PSB:
Iyong sinasabi ni Gunggonzales na witness, bayaran lang iyon. Ganyan din ang ginagawa nila ngayon in fact laban kay JLo. Kinakasuhan ng kung ano-ano with fake witnesses na binayaran nila with public funds. Wala silang niloloko kundi mga sarili nila, at saka mga taumbayan pala na alam namang niloloko sila pero mas gusto pang umalis na lang ng Pilipinas kesa makibaka para mapaalis ang mga kurakot.
Bilib ka sa unggoy na iyan kasi malapit nang mamatay, hindi pa magsisi. Sobra pang paglalabag sa mga utos ng Diyos ang ginagawa. Hindi ba niya alam na mabigat ang kasalanan ng pagbibintang at pagsasabi ng hindi totoo laban sa kapwa? Bakit di niya alam iyon utos na “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor?” Pag kasama sa 10 Commandments, ibig sabihin niyong mabigat ang parusa sa kasalanang nilabag doon.
LIMA, Peru (via PLDT)–United States President George W. Bush appeared to have gone out of his way to honor President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo when the two met in this South American nation for the two-day summit of leaders of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC).
Press Secretary Jesus Dureza recalled for reporters the events that transpired during the gala dinner and cultural performance at the Ministry of Defense complex, the site of the APEC summit which started Saturday.
According to Dureza, this was what happened:
“Gloria!” Bush exclaimed upon seeing President Arroyo during the gala dinner hosted by Peruvian President Alan Garcia Perez.
….Guess what they talked about? Cha-Cha and the US soldiers’ prolong stay in Mindanao. The Evil Bitch doesn’t realize that Bush is a lameduck President, and that the right person to talk to right now is Obama.
If she cannot get a term extension through Cha-cha, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and her backers may settle for “immunity extension,” a lawyer of former House Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr claimed Monday.
Raul Lambino said the Arroyo camp is planning to revive a provision in the 1973 Marcos Constitution that gives a president immunity from suit even after his or her term ends.
Atty,
Habang tumatanda mga justices tulad ng kawayan, yumuyoko na pala.
naku, pasensiya na di ko napansin na-sobrahan pala yung blockquote.
ginoray,
nawawala yung susi ng bahay ko, di ko alam kung saan ko nailagay, hinahanap ko pa. Simula nung dumating yung mga MILF doon, nagulo na ang bahay ko. Buti na lang napakiusapan ko si Ces Drilon na pakitignan muna. Yaaan mo, pag nakita ko yung susi, maga-update ako!