For update on Adaza et al, see Malaya article in comments.
$4M solicited to bankroll new plot?
by Raymond Africa
Operatives of the PNP Criminal Investigation and Detection Group yesterday arrested lawyer Homobono Adaza, two retired military officers, and a former police official wanted for a celebrated murder case, for involvement in another supposed plot to overthrow to Arroyo government.
Another person was reportedly arrested but the CIDG refused to identify him or give details of the arrest. The suspects are scheduled to be presented today to the media in Camp Crame.
Adaza is undergoing interrogation at the PNP-CIDG headquarters in Camp Crame, together with former Colonels Oscarlito Mapalo (Army) and Cesar de la Pena (Marines), and ex-Supt. Rafael Cardeño who is wanted for the Dec. 31, 2001 murder of Baron Cervantes, self-styled spokesman of the Young Officers Union.
Camp Crame sources said the suspects were arrested in an operation conducted by the PNP-CIDG in a fast-food outlet on Ortigas avenue past 1 p.m. yesterday.
The sources said lawyer Raymund Fortun contacted the CIDG and told officials that the group asked him to join a conspiracy to mount an armed revolt to topple the Arroyo administration.
Fortun, in a phone interview, said he filed a complaint of “proposal to commit coup d’état” against Adaza, Mapalo, dela Peña, Cardeño, and an “Amboy.”
He said he filed the complaint yesterday morning before the CIDG on behalf of his client, whom he described only as a Japanese.
He said Adaza’s group has been asking his client for $4 million to finance a coup against the Arroyo administration.
“Well, kahapon ay naka-receive na naman kami ng demand mula sa kanila and they threatened my client kung hindi maibibigay ang demand nila,” Fortun said.
He said part of the threat was that they will harm or kill two Filipino associates of his client and make it appear his client was responsible.
The threat prompted him to file the complaint, Fortun said.
He said CIDG agents then planned an entrapment at Robinson’s Galleria.
Adaza has been linked to past efforts to undermine the Arroyo administration but authorities have yet to substantiate the allegations. He is acting as counsel for one of the 28 Army and Marines officers accused in a supposed plot to overthrow government in February 2006.
Cardeño has been in the PNP’s wanted list since 2001. Cardeño and one Santiago Camacho, a former executive of the Land Transportation Office, were indicted in the 2001 assassination of Cervantes in Las Piñas City.
Cardeño was at large until the CIDG captured him by chance yesterday.
Since 2004, top PNP officials have been saying efforts were ongoing to arrest Cardeño, who is also facing administrative and criminal cases filed by the PNP for alleged malversation of government property for his reported failure to return issued government firearms.
Apart from Cardeño and Camacho, three others were also charged in connection with the killing of Cervantes.
Cardeño was tagged by the alleged gunman, ex-Marine Sgt. Joseph Mostrales, as the mastermind.
Mostrales was described by the police as the ringleader of a kidnapping-for-ransom group composed mostly of former soldiers.
One of the suspects identified as Jaime Centeno of Antipolo City was arrested by agents of the then National Anti-Kidnapping Task Force.
Mapalo became controversial after he complained about alleged discriminatory criteria in the AFP’s promotion system.
Opposition senators even initiated an investigation into Mapalo’s complaint, saying the Arroyo government should maintain a professional Armed Forces by ensuring that senior, competent and best qualified military officers are given a fair chance at promotion.
Stupido naman ito si Raymund Fortun – is he missing the limelight so much that he thought of contacting “..the CIDG and told officials that the group asked him to join a conspiracy to mount an armed revolt to topple the Arroyo administration” ? Common’ do you think Adaza can actually mount a coup ?
The joke is on Gloria. She’s so paranoid ! If it is her fate to be toppled, nothing & no one can stop that from happening. All Gloria is doing is stalling the inevitable.
Chabeli: “Common’ do you think Adaza can actually mount a coup ?
Talaga.
Adaza and Fontun are great lawyers. They are also the lawyers of a few of the Tanay Boys. Kaya siguro iniipit nila sila because of the mutiny trial of the Tanay Boys. Wala talagang magawa itong si evil bitch na pandak.
I was watching the news for the past two days and I had to keep turning off my tv everytime the pandak came on. NAKAKASUKA NA TALAGA!
Adaza has no capability and resources to even stage a rally against the government. How can he stage a coup with a few retired military officers? For a coup to succeed, you need the help of many sectors such as the active military, opposition, business sectors and even the church. No one is going to buy the PNP’s story. Why would a veteran politician and prominent lawyer like Adaza propose a coup to anyone? If one is going to commit a crime, would he propose to someone that he’s going to commit it? And Fortun? Well, I think he has long parted ways with the Erap group. Fortun is now more into lawyering for celebrities. Whatever reason that drove him into filing the complaint against Adaza, only he and the government know.
I don’t have the full picture yet. But some people told me some of the names mentioned are notorious for fund-raising using the name of patriotic soldiers. Mahilig mag-name drop.
I don’t know about Mapalo. I’ve never met him.
Wow ha, may hapon pang kasama daw. Gago din ano? Maniniwala pa ako kung intsik ang sinabing kasabwat. Ulol! On the other hand, baka ang ibig nilang sabihin iyong hapon na kasabwat nila Pandak sa pagwawaldas ng patrimonies sa Japan na putol at gusto nilang gulangan!
One thing sure is that kung cunning and shrewd ang mga hudyo, mas cunning at shrewd ang mga kababayan ko. Maingat ang mga iyan. Hindi susubo sa gulo ng mga pilipino na hindi naman sila makikinabang maliban na lang kung mga pipitsugin mga putol na kung puede lang a i-disown ng Japan.
Puede ba, kung gunggong ang mga nakaupo sa intelligence daw kuno ng Pilipinas, huwag na silag manggunggong ng iba. Nakakahiya sila. Halatang mga walang alam kasi napupuwesto sa pagsisipsip lang. Nakakahiya! Bulok na bulok!
Sinabi mo pa, Bitchdevil. Many years ago, we needed a speaker for one of our forums from the Philippines. Pinadala si Bono Adaza dito ng kausap namin. Ako pa ang nagpamasahe. Pinatira namin sa bahay ng isang member namin. Kaya alam kong wala siyang pera. Hindi kasi kurakot, at maingat ang taong iyan to get involved in this kind of activity na may mag-i-squeal pa sa kanila. Hindi siya gago.
Kung may gago, iyong mga inutil na squatter sa Malacanang. Puede ba, tumigil na ang mga gunggong. Pakuku pa raw. Hindi naman totoo. Gusto lang magpalabas ni pandak na hindi siya puedeng ibagsak. Sa ngayon siguro dahil ginugutom niya ang mga kababayan niya na uunahin pa siyempre muna ang mga tiyan nila bago kumilos, at pag handa na silang kumilos, para na silang lantang bulaklak!
Puede ba, kung mag-iimbento sila ng istorya, iyon namang believable. Nakakasawa na sa totoo lang.
Take note of this story by Peter J. G. Tabingo
in Malaya today. It mentions de la Peña:
Former Marines chief, 7 others ordered arrested
Retired Brig. General Percival M. Subala, former commandant of the Philippine Marine Corps, and seven co-accused were ordered arrested by the Sandiganbayan Fifth Division Wednesday in connection with a criminal charge filed against them over the loss of 72 units of Heckler and Koch MP5 cal. 9mm sub-machineguns in June 2000.
Also covered by the arrest order were Marines assistant chief-of-staff Col. Cesar A. dela Peña, Navy Capt. Teodoro M. Briones, SPO4 Richard B. Zules, and civilians Edelbert C. Uybuco, Gerardo D. Vijandre, Manuel Ferdinand B. Trinidad and Michael R. Boregas – officials and employes of Trimark Ventures Trading Corp., a government-accredited firearms supplier.
Associate Justice Ma. Cristina Cortez-Estrada signed the warrant which was forwarded to the PNP, NBI, AFP and other law enforcement agencies. The court has set the defendants’ bail at P120,000 each.
Prosecutors said there are evidence of conspiracy among the accused in simulating a purchase of firearms which enabled the accused military officers to secure a clearance to take out the guns from the PNP-Firearms and Explosives Division (FED) in Camp Crame. However, instead of delivering the guns to the Marine headquarters in Fort Bonifacio, they were brought to the offices of Trimark Ventures where they mysteriously vanished.
In October 2005, a police operation against suspected gunrunners in Subic, Zambales netted five of the missing MP5s.
Prosecutors said Dela Peña wrote FED for authority to purchase the MP5s on the strength of an authorization from Subala despite the fact that the Marine Corps “had no budget or intention to purchase any firearms.” –
The plot thickens on this one, Ellen. May gumagamit sa mga military officers na ito or simply framing them up dahil may mga sariling paninindigan. Sila sila ang nagsisiraan. Siguro the rotten officers want to have the “bounty” themselves and kailangang maidiin yung mga straight guys para walang sagabal sa kanilang mga “operations”!
Tama ka Yuko, the authorities should check the fingers of this Japanese national . Baka kulang ang mga daliri and he belongs to the disdained Yakuza gang. Marami sila sa Pilipinas. I even saw one in the 1980s where halos lahat ng daliri ay ubos na! Very notorious siguro. Nagtatago itong mga ito sa Pilipinas. Some of them are even married with Filipinas and have kids with them.
Expect the pandak to be stirring the pot from here on because she has to justify declaring “martial law” anew! She will do everything in her power to hold on to her stolen position. Let us watch how her dirty dogs orchestrate a “false coup”, bombings here and there, kidnappings and death of influencial people from here on. She has less than two years to declare a martial law which is her last attempt to cling unto power! Sioktong’s drunken analyses may just be right!
Truth was when I was in Hong Kong last month, usap-usapan na ang balak ni Pandak na magmartial law para hindi matuloy ang pagbaba niya sa 2010 kundi man siya kayang patalsikin sooner. Ginagaya ang istilo ng pagdeklara ni Marcos ng martial law in 1973 na mas valid naman kung tutuusin dahil sa kaguluhan noon. Pero ngayon walang-walang dahilan kundi lamang sa kapritso noong ulol na babaing mas masahol pa sa puta at bugaw. Ngayon mukhang tototohanin na ng mga ulol. Unahan natin ng pagsabi sa Tate ng kaululan ang gustong mangyari ni Pandak. O baka ang gustong mangyari ni Unano ituloy ni Lameduck Dubya iyong threat niya noon na isama ang Pilipinas doon sa axis of evil na ipapabomba niya para siguro maubos na ang mga pilipino at iyon na lang mga sipsip sa kaniya ang patitirahin niya sa Pilipinas na gusto niyang angkinin? Tindi rin ang ambisyon ng ungas.
Sa totoo lang madali namang basahin si Gloria Dorobo. Nagbubulag-bulagan lang naman ang maraming pilipino. O sa kakuparan nila, nauunahan tuloy sila ng kumag.
Patalsikin na, puede ba? Hindi bababa iyan hangga’t di hinihila sa buhok palabas ng Malacanang. Sarap magmura sa totoo lang.
Si Bono, magku-coup? Hahahaha!
Namputsa, dumating lang ang In-fuck-toh Gloria ay may kukurukuku na naman daw.
By asking Fortun to cook it, Gloria tries to impress Dubya that she can quell a coup against her in an instant. Hindi pa tapos ang pa-impress ni pandak kay Dubya. Two lame ducks irrelevant to their own people trying so very hard to stay in the limelight.
Gloria, stop quacking already. You are so LAOS na a!
Kambal-tuko si Gloria at Mugabe. Si Gloria ay adviser ni Mugabe so it’s no wonder why Mugabe is a copycat of Gloria.
The only difference is that Dubya loves Gloria while hates Mugabe. Nilalambutsing kasi ni Gloria si Dubya!
Kung is Barack ang magiging presidente, hindi pwede ang deklarasyon ng martial rule ni Gloria, ikakahiya siya ni Barack. There goes their phone converse on their countries relationship. Sasabihin ni Barack: Don’t know her!
Unless Gloria won’t need Uncle Sam anymore after Dubya, she’ll declare martial rule. Mabubuhay ba siya ng walang suporta ang Democrat kapag nagkataon?
The evil bitch is so good in staging coup, election rigging, abduction, kidnapping and what have you to grab and hang on to power! I wonder what is Fortun’s price for being a “Judas”? A supreme court position? O baka sa International Court…heh,heh,heh. He can not compete with the “tililing” Brenda! Gagawa na rin lang ng katarantaduhan itong si evil bitch eh yung very obvious pa. I heard that between the two, Adaza is the more credible one. Fortun is affiliated with the Narvasa Law Firm who is known for “something” else. Hmmm, what is this evil woman cooking up again. She seem to succeed is shutting up all those who oppose her and even succeeded in causing the deaths of her opponents, Fernando Poe Jr and Ka Beltran. She succeeded in keeping Honasan in her pocket, virtually reduced him to a “lame lapdog”! I should say that for a pandak, she sure has a deadly sting! For those who are still standing up, she has hypnotized them so good!
The evil bitch has a pool of “men” who are ever ready to pull the trigger for her! The power of the “purse” seem to always draw even the bright and upright men turned “something else” to her bait! Magaling talaga siyang magmaniobra. With a hoodlum husband and kids, she sure has all her bases covered! Nothing would leak out because it is simply a “family” affair!
Ang think they are trying to implicate Atty. Adaza dito sa ‘kukuruku-coup’ na ito para lalong madiin ang kaso ni Col. Ariel Querubin. Parang di ko lubos maisip na kayang gawin iyan ni Atty. Bono Adaza. Tapos meron daw isa pang arrested suspect na ipe-present daw sa media. Baka naman pinameme-morize yung ‘script’. Abangan ang istorya. True story o isang ‘FICTION!
—— REVERSE ENGINEERING OF MARCOS MARTIAL LAW —–
To: Parasabayan and Kapatid
In my opinion, when tiyanak pidal and fatboy pidal were planning the coup d’etat against the constitutional President Joseph Estrada, they were already thinking of doing a la Marcos martial law once they succeeded in ousting Erap.
Why did I say that? Since tiyanak pidal grabbed power from President Joseph Estrada they started to consciously control the military (including police), judiciary, the media, jailing or salvaging thos who speak out against this criminal and illegitimate de facto occupant of malacañang.
During Marcos martial law all of these things or most of it did not occur until his martial law was approved by US.
Most of the opposition that could have come out, right after she declares her martial law in the very near future, are already in jail or dead. The media are now afraid because of this onerous and politically motivated Laigo ruling, arroyo supreme court castrated our judiciary, the people are now afraid to demonstrate, etc….
When the international media arrives in Pinas, right after she declares her martial law, they will not see any sign of dissent because all or most of opposition journalist are already in jail or dead, other opposition politicians are already on the run or changed their allegiance to tiyanak pidal, etc….
The only way we can prevent this impending martial law, which is fast approaching, is to start resisting it NOW! While we still have time to do it. All signs are there.
Well, maybe I am just hallucinating because I drank sioktong for breakfast instead of barako.
Signed:
Sioktong — Copyright 2008
Sioktong, I don’t think the US was aware that Marcos was going to declare Martial Law. However, the US later approved after the declaration. The US just made sure that Marcos obeyed her. Sioktong, you have not answered my question why INC picked GMA when INC’s teaching is against a woman leading the nation.
Correction:
During Marcos martial law all of these things or most of it did not occur until after his martial law was approved by US.
Luzviminda, that was what got into my mind when Adaza ws implicated. Gusto ni tiyanak na iimplicate na naman si Col Querubin. Katulad ng ginawa nila kay Honasan, they gave him the liberty to get out pero nakaposas ang kamay, may takip ang mata at may busal ang bibig. Hawak ni tiyanak ang BALLS niya!
The jounalists are now curtailed as evidenced by the latest development in the Manila Penn incident. Si Senator Trillianes eh pinagbabawalang maglingkod sa bayan by the SC. Now, implicating Adaza and some ex-military officers give a chilling effect. The evil bitch is mixing up a cocktail leading to something more explosive than a bomb! HOY MGA TULOG, GISING NA KAYO!
Luzviminda, the burden is on Fortun, not Atty Adaza. Ang idinidiin ay si Atty Adaza. I wonder who is pulling the string somewhere.
Itinanggi ni Atty. Bono Adaza ang mga akusasyon sa kanya ng ‘proposal to commit coup d’etat’ sa isang interview. At sinabi pa niyang there is no such crime, meaning ‘non-existent’. Mukhang may niluluto nga ang mga kampon ni Gloria at nakakadismaya na baka nagagamit o nagpapagamit si Atty Fortun.
Read the Abs-Cbn News item:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=123854
PSB,
Mahilig ang mga kampon at mga ‘toy soldiers’ ni Gloria ng mag-concoct ng mga kasong isasampa sa mga taong kumakalaban sa kanila. Mukhang yung kaso ng isang sundalo ay pilit na idinidikit sa grupo nila Adaza. Ang then pwede na ring idikit sa mga kaso ng mga nakakulong na magigiting nating sundalo like Col. Querubin at nila Trillanes. Parang gustong mag-DOMINO!
bitchevil,
Here is the link again which I provided from the other thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg17660.html
If you look for the source of informations about that article , you will find out that it was Primitivo Mijares. You can say that Mijares was an insider right before martial law was decreed and immediately after that. He also wrote “The Conjugal Dictatorships of Marcos”. I read that book more than ten years ago which I borrowed from my dad. I remember that book mentioned about Mr. Nalundasan, Marcos’ first victim. Marcos shot him by using his ROTC rifle and shot him at a distance. I wish I have that book now but my dad could not remember where it is.
From my understanding, the nation that’s referred to was His nation, His church, and according to my uncle it refers to INC. That’s why there is no woman preaching as minister in INC.
Thanks Sioktong. Marcos indeed killed Nalundasan but Marcos was so smart that he defended himself successfully. Mijares was reported to have been liquidated by Marcos too.
So it’s true that INC is against a woman as a leader or leading the country. My question is still the same: Why did INC endorse GMA?
BE baka ang tingin ng INC kay evil bitch eh hindi siya babae!
Pati, marunong gumamit ng brown bags si evil bitch! Di yun ang suma total ng mga religious organizations? MONEY < MONEY MONEY! Marami nyan si evil bitch- NAKAW karamihan!
Sioktong, the link you provided mentioned about America’s knowledge of the plan of Marcos to declare Martial Law; and no less than President Nixon approved the plan. Well, that confirms once again that for coup to succeed, it needs America’s blessing. If America has a say in the installation of RP President, legitimate or not, then she also has a say in the removal of our President, legal or illegal. It comes down to one obvious conclusion: America is the culprit.
Don’t tell me, sinabi ni Gloria pato na magdedeklara siya ng Martial Law dahil kay Fengshen sa mga kano? Pero mukhang sagot ng mga kano, “No way!” Ito namang si Dubya, mukhang ang sagot, “Don’t worry, it is just a matter of time, since I have actually included the Philippines in my axis of evil nations because of the ASG. That’s why you have to tell the Fil-Am voters to vote for McCain so that he can continue where I have left off.” Mukhang iyan ang dahilan kung bakit hindi nakipagkita sa kaniya si Obama. Iyan ang tarantado sa totoo lang.
Now trying hard talaga si Gloria pato y dorobo na maging valid ang balak niyang magdeklara ng Martial Law. Subukan niya na walang US sanction. Ngayon pang may Internet na. Ang bilis na makipag-ugnayan sa mga kongresista at mga senador sa Tate. Hindi naman sila bobo sa totoo lang lalo na ngayong may crisis sa Tate. And I doubt na makakalapit pa si pandak sa mga intsik na hindi naman taeng-tae sa kaniya.
I don’t believe na talagang mga Amerikano ang naglagay kay Dorobo sa Malacanang. Wala na lang magawa ang mga kano dahil desperate talaga silang magkaroon ng mga kakampi para sa pagsulong ng mga kalokohan ni Dubya. Strategic lang nga kasi ang position ng Pilipinas pero alam nilang delikadong makikutsaba sa isang dugong aso. Sayang na lang ang intelligence ng mga kano. Sa totoo lang pagdating sa mga sekreto takot sila sa mga pilipino. Sabi nga ng kaibigan kong kano, wala daw sekretong hindi binubulgar ang mga pilipino. Ipinagyayabang pa nga daw lalo na si Gloria pato y dorobo? Hindi pa nga sinasabihan, ipinamamalita nangmay sekreto siyang alam! Kundi pa sumipsip na husto, hindi naman talagang papansinin. Kaya sinong may sabing mga kano ang naglagay sa kaniya sa Malacanang? Nandaya, bibilib pa ako!
Chi,
Parang si Ka Bel iyan. Namatay na kasi siya kaya humanap sila ng kapareho niyang hindi marunong magnakaw. Dilehensiya, yes, pero nakaw, I doubt na ginagawa ni Bono Adaza kaya nga walang malalaking mansion na gaya ng mga Pidal, et al.
Poor Bono! Tignan natin ngayon ang galing niyang ipagtanggol ang sarili niya sa isang court of law.
Oo nga pala, hindi puedeng pagkatiwalaan ang justice system sa Pilipinas pati na iyong mga nagpupulis-pulisan. Naalala ko tuloy iyong joke noong maliit ako, “Pulis, pulis t—-g matulis, bombay, bombay, t—-g matibay!” In short, walang binatbat!
Bono Adaza’s name fits him…he often takes cases on “pro-BONO” basis.
Is there a probable cause or solid evidence for the warrantless arrest against lawyer Adaza, et al? The PNP Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) is known to manufacture evidence to pin down suspects. Maybe it’s another Malacanang squid tactics.
Yuko,
I believe that Gloria is making the Pinas situation worse to impact on Barack the necessity to declare martial rule in case he makes it to the Oval office. Kaya ayan at kukuruku-coup na naman. Kay Mc Cain kasi ay medyo may kadalian, mga hawks sila sa Reps besides continuing Dubya’s policy in Mindanao (take note ha, Mindanao was the subject of their 15 minute meet daw).
But as we all know, the Dems hate dictatorial and martial rulers, hindi siya papasa sa Dems, kay Barack pa who stated that he’s going to ‘pacify the terrorists’ to avoid war. Unless Gloria does not want US aids and support, which is impossible, she’d declare martial law with only her AFP and PNP backing her up. E kung walang malaking kurakot na galing sa US military aids ang militar, ano pa ang silbi ni Gloria sa kanila?
I wonder what Yano would do in case her president and commander informs him that she wants martial law declared.
magtatanong lang po:
mga ilang beses na ba nadakip o nakulong itong si Ginoong Bono?
a)kailan, b)gaano katagal sa piitan, at c)ano-anong dahilan (kaso) kung meron man?
sana po mayroom nakakalam nito?
maraming salamat po.
Kaya nga importante na masabihan si Barack and the other democrats what we know.
Volunteer ako sa Barack campaign and I have maintained a contact with one or two senators, one of whom is a member of our church from Utah, and another member of the US Congress, who is also a member of our church, and another from our district in the Bay Area. Puede naman silang sulatan sa totoo lang. Mas gusto nga nila iyon lalo na si Barack and Michelle na sanay sa grassroot movement.
Ako nga, nag-join na formally ng isang partido dito sa Japan para lang magkaroon ng clout and leverage para sa mga pilipino. Sunod-sunod na ngayon ang mga events na ina-attend ko. Definitely, stop ang ODA sa Pilipinas hangga’t nakaupo si Dorobo. Iyong mga kaibigan namin sa China, kinakalampag na rin namin.
Kailangan ang sanction sa ungas na iyan. Mukhang iyan na rin ang balak kay Mugabe kaya lang takot sila sa magiging resulta na baka magaya sa Sudan dahil iba din ang utak ng mga Afrikano. Hopefully, ma-stop sana ang katulad ng nangyari noon sa Rwanda.
Dapat kasi sinisibak na ang mga katulad ni Gloria pato-dorobo at Mugabe. Hopefully, hindi mananalo si McCain an extension lang ni Dubya.
Tama ka, Chi, nang magdeklara ng Martial Law si Marcos, presidente ng Tate noon si Nixon na nangailangan din ng kakampi dahil malakas na ang sigaw ng mga ayaw na sa kaniya. Tapos nang ilaglag si Marcos, si Reagan naman ang presidente Parehong Repulican. Kaya taeng-tae si Dorobo na maka-score kay Obama para hindi siya matanggal.
Pihado may nag-uudyok kay Dorobo na pagsamantalahan na ngayong magdeklara ng Martial Law habang Republican pa ang nakaupo, pero hindi humihirit ang mga kano. Mas concentrated kasi sila ngayon sa eleksyon nila.
Good thing talaga merong Internet. Mas madaling mangalampag ngayon.
Mali ng piniling takutin ni Gloria Dorobo and company. Si Adaza pa.
Maraming kakilala iyan na astig at home and abroad sa totoo lang kahit na sabihin pang wala siyang pera.
Ang sabihin ninyo baka kaya siya pinili dahil umurong na siyang ipagtanggol iyong kamag-anak ni Pidal na nagke-claim na sila ang may-ari ng Pilipinas. Maaaring tinataga niya at ayaw niyang magpa-TY kaya akala siguro wala siyang pera at kumo wala siyang pera, kaya nila siyang ibagsak.
Alumnus din siya ng UP kaya maraming koneksyon iyan. Sayang na lang ang galing niya kundi niya maipalusot ang sarili niya.
Mahihirapan ilusot iyang martial law ngayon. 72 hrs. lang ang pwedeng itagal ng martial law, kailangan pa ng concurrence ng kongreso.
Ako, ang inaabangan ko authoritarian rule na walang deklarasyon kahit ano, kung meron man, pseudo-martial law with the same effects. Mangingisay tayo sa galit pero walang silbi dahil itong laban na itong darating, trayduran na ito.
It’s ominous, dati, hindi ako convinced na kaya pang ilatag yan. But look at the events! Sunod-sunod! Everything happening today has something to do with affairs, cases, and people within the military and police.
Ano’ng scenario ang niluluto? Nung 2006, sabwatan daw ng Komunista at mga Magdalo. Walang kwenta ang ebidensiya, pati testigo, si San Juan, inutakan lang, ano na nangyari kay San Juan?
Ngayon, si Bono, isang dating politiko sa Mindanao, na konektado ngayon sa mga sundalong nakakulong. Hinuhukay pati mga kaso ng mga kliyente niyang sila Cardeno, etal. Simple logic, puwedeng ikabit kay Querubin na kliyente rin niya at ang Tanay boys.
Bagong scenario para 2008: sabwatan ng mga rebeldeng sundalo at mga rebeldeng Muslim. Mahirap patunayan, pero kayang gawan ng ebidensiyang peke!
Masyadong obvious ang martial law, alam na nilang inaabangan na natin yan. Ibang hugis ito, bago. Dadaanin na lang sa pilitan, pwede namang patagalin yan sa korte, diba?
Kaya nga sabi ko tactica ng mga dugong aso—trayduran lang! But meron bang nagtagal na ganyan! Para na ring hinukay ni Gloria pato-dorobo ang sarili nilang libingan! Sige lang, arya lang ng arya si Mugabe ng Pilipinas. Kunsumido ang ungas. Ang sikip ng pantalon. No talab ang lypo-suction ni Bello. Baka mamamaya makikita na naman natin sila ni Mike Defensor sa St Luke gawa nang nagtae na naman iyong darling boss niya. Ngeeeeeek!
Pero kakatawa ang pagka-inutil ng mga intelligence kuno ni dugong aso. Pinagbibintangan iyong mga nakakulong! Papaanong makakapagplano iyan kundi talagang inutil ang mga bantay nila. Ano iyan, mismong gobyerno binubulgar ang bulok nila. Para ano? Para kaawaan sila sa katangahan nila! Yuck din ang mga utak ano? Nagbobobo-bobohan pa, lalo lang nagiging bobo! Bobo, bobo, bobo, bobo!
Tongue,
Ang iniisip ko ay a la Marcos martial law. Yong tinanggal na ang Kongress at wala na ring Konstitution. Kaya wa epek na yang 72 hours lang.
Dahil ang talagang pinag lalaway ni chuwawa ay yong sya pa rin ang queen of Philippine holocaust for life. Kontrol nya na lahat bakit pa sya bababa?
Nagawa ni Marcos yon noon na tanggalin ang Kongress at Konstitusyon. Lalong magagawa ni tiyanak pidal yan ngayon dahil naka posisyon na lahat ng tauhan nya sa military at judiciary.
Akala ko si asspweron lang ang kayang gumawa ng “coup” drama. Ito rin palang si razon ay “expert” din.
sioktong,
Yung PP1017, Martial law din yun pero ibang pangalan sa birth certificate. Masahol siguro sa PP1017 pero hindi pwedeng Marcos style martial law. Sa tingin ko terrorism angle ang ie-exploit. Sinimulan na sa pagkidnap kay Ces Drilon. Yung mga bombahan nung Mayo, hindi yata napansin ng publiko.
Mas matindi ang kinakailangang sintomas nitong isang ito. Hindi na ubra yung pekeng asasinasyon gaya nung kay Enrile. Kailangan ng mas malalang sitwasyon para mas malakas ang idedeklarang puwersang gagamitin. Mas hawig siguro sa Glorietta 2 bombing o mas malaki pa.
Ingat ang lahat. Kung walang importanteng lakad, sa bahay na lang muna. Para ko na ring sinabing huwag munang sumama sa Black Friday protest ng Black and White bukas! Iyan siguro ang dahilan, dahil nagsimula na naman ang mass action, kailangan mai-divert na naman. Abangan.
We really have to be forewarned. The evil bitch knows how to pay off her dogs and she has a pool of “hatchetmen”. Kung tama ang presyo at ang pwesto, anything is possible. Magaling magbayad si “maam”.
I wonder how much the Japanese was paid to help frame Adaza. Baka naman itong hapon na ito ay ipit at i-dedeport na but he wants to stay in the Philippines or his business is at the brink of going under (ravaged by excessive kotongs) so he needs some financial help thus, this whole “coup” thing was cooked up.
Tongue is right, the pandak’s martial law is implied and she has already started the control over the military then the judiciary and continues on to the other government agencies up to the lowest political units. She may not have declared the martial law but she is already practicing excessive control.
Tongue: Yung mga bombahan nung Mayo, hindi yata napansin ng publiko.
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Gago kasi. Papaanong papansinin pa ng mga tao, inaraw-araw nila. Nakasanayan tuloy. Pati nga extrajudicial killing, parang normal na. Hindi na pinapansin. Katwiran pa nga ng mga tanga, “Talagang ganoon. Iyon na kasi iyon!” Susmaryosep!
Excessive control, PSB? I doubt. Kaya lang naman sinusunod iyan, ang laki ng lagay. Ang sipag nga noong courier nilang si Medy Perencia. Lalo tuloy nagmukhang lalaki!
Huwag ni patong dorobo bigyan ng mga nakolekta niya sa mga pinuntahan niya, pati na mga OFW na palaging hinihingian ng abuloy, iyong mga nakasahod ang kamay, aber! Baka bukas na bukas din, tanggal na siya, sabay sabunot pa sa lahat ng lugar sa katawan niya na may buhok pa na pihadong may mga puti na!
Sarap talagang babuyin ni Gloria pato y baboy. Oink, oink!
Tongue:
Iyong bombahan daw sa Congress na namatay si Akbar, sadya daw iyon na gusto sanang ibintang sa mga komunista. Kaso nabiktima din iyong balak sanang magbintangan. Buti na lang nga hindi namatay at iyong driver lang niya ang nadali. Ganumpaman kademonyohan na ang nangyari.
E di wala ngayon silang magamit na scapegoat, pero balita, military din ang nagligpit kay Akbar bilang paghihiganti daw doon sa pinapugot niya ang mga ulong mga sundalo. Wala nang katapusan iyan hanggat nakaupo si pato y dorobo.
Huwag nang manginig sa tumbong ang mga pilipino at umasa sa mga kanong malaki din ang problema. Sipain na ang tapalaning lameduck!
Humahanap lang talaga ng scapegoat ang mga ungas. Magkano kaya ang bayad doon sa squealer kuno. Puedeg makabili ng isang condo? Ganoon ba kalaki ang nakolekta para sa biktima ng Fengshen?
Buti pa noong panahon ni Marcos ng bombahin nya ang department stores, city halls, at schools ay walang tao sa building pwera lang ata sa Quezon city halls. Gusto ni Marcos kung maari walang mamatay sa pagbomba nya.
Itong si tiyanak pidal balewala sa kanya kahit ilan ang mamatay sa pagbomba nya.
Binomba nya yong Glorietta na may maraming tao. Ilan ang mga inosenteng tao ang namatay at sugatan? Binomba ni tiyanak ang Zambo, sa gate pa mismo ng military Air Force ata yon. Ilan ang mga inosenteng namatay at sugatan doon? Nakakatakot isipin kung umpisahan na ni tiyanak pidal na bombahin ang school. Ilang mga inosenteng istudyante kaya ang mamatay? Kung umpisahan nyang bombahin ang city halls. Ilang kaya ang mamatay doon?
Eh kung maisipan ni tiyanak pidal na bombahin ang mga bus at train para talagang nasa headline news sa Pinas at sa buong mundo. Nakakatakot isipin kong ilang inosenteng mamamayan ang mamamatay doon.
Sioktong,
Kung talagang ginawa ni Marcos iyong pagbobomba, kasalanan din iyon. O tignan mo naman ang pahirap sa kaniya bago siya namatay. We saw him in fact a few months before he died. Iyak ng nanay ko na pinsan niya. Almost blind na siya. Hindi na nakakakita sa totoo lang. Pero one thing I can tell you is that he really loved his country. Iyan ang parusa niya na hindi siya namatay na maligaya sa bansa niya! Pero with all the good things that a lot many people now say he did, baka naman patawarin ng kaunti ng Panginoon.
Sabi nga mga taga-Tondo, hindi naman daw sila ang nagpaalis kay Marcos dahil hindi naman daw niya ginutom sila. Si Dorobo daw ginawa pa silang pulubi at niloloko pa sa kanilang mga kidney! Iyong mga babae daw sa lugar nila halos wala na, kundi nagpuputa sa ibang bansa, katulong na nire-rape!!!
Alam ko hindi naman nambugaw si Marcos ng mga Japayuki. Itong si Dorobo ipinagsisiksikan pa kahit na nga ban na sa Japan. Panay ang punta dito ng mga inuutusan niyang mga bugaw na nagmamakaawa sa mga opisyal namin dito na i-waive iyong ruling laban sa mga Japayuki para sa mga pilipino, both male and female. Buti nga wala na si Sto. Tomas na nagmukhang bugaw din!
Kawawang Pilipinas!
Grizzy,
Ilang bang kapatid ni Marcos? Parang isa lang ata syang anak?
Marcos is the eldest son of Mariano and Josefa Marcos. His siblings are Pacifico, Elizabeth and Fortuna. I bet you’re reading some trash being posted on the Internet, but unlike rumors about the birth of Gloria Dorobo, Ferdinand was a very legitimate son of Mariano Rubio Marcos with Josefa Edralin. Hindi uubra sa pamilya namin kung nangaliwa si Josefa, which she did not as the grand lady was a respected teacher.
Sabi anak daw ng intsik si Marcos? Gago ba sila. Natural magmumukha siyang intsik dahil may lahing intsik ang nanay niya.
The only scandal we knew and actually embarrassed our relatives was the assassination of Nalundasan that was blamed on Ferdinand. I guess I’ll ask my mother again about this case. I had heard this story before but I did not give it any importance. In fact, all that my mother could say was that Nalundasan was brushing his teeth when he was shot, and Ferdinand was blamed for it because he was a sharpshooter. He was actually able to defend himself and he was acquitted, and that’s that.
If he was really guilty, you can bet your bottom dollar, his sin will be visited on his descendants. So far, wala pang lumalabas.
Buhay pa ang mother ko. Gotta grill her for more information, at least, before she dies rather than depend on trash posted on cyberspace.
Mas bata kay Apo Ferdie and mother ko sa totoo lang kaya ading-ading siya at manong niya si Marcos. Ganoon ka-clannish ang mga Ilocano sa totoo lang.
Correct me if I’m wrong, grizzy. I’ve long heard that Marcos’ real father was a Chinese with the surname “Chua”.
Not true. The father of Marcos was Mariano Rubio Marcos. One thing many people do not know, ang mga Ilocano hindi mahilig mang-ako ng di nila anak! Maniniwala pa ako kung sabihin baka hindi anak ni Mariano si Pacifico. Pero si Ferdinand, no way! Hindi naman malandi ang nanay niya para manlalaki pa sa iba! Teacher/Librarian sa Arellano High School and nanay ni Marcos.
Balik sa issue. Bakit ba tuwing babalik si tarantada mula sa paglalakwatsa niya sa ibang bansa, pirming may niluluto silang “destab plot” daw? May naniniwala pa ba sa mga kumag? Baka mamamaya sasabihin hinuhuli lang nila si Fortun at talagang walang kasalanan si Bono Adaza. At saka, iyong istorya ni Fortun, fantastic.
Hindi mahilig ang mga hapon na sumali sa mga ganyang kalokohan na sila ang kikikilan para sa coup daw. Mali yata. Kung yakuza ang kumag na hapon, sasabihin niyan bayaran siya para iligpit niya si Gloria. Diyan baka maniwala pa ako lalo na kung iyong hapon tinakwil na ng mga kamag-anak niya at handa nang magpakamatay.
Mali ang rehearsal ng mga ungas. Kuwentong kutserong pinoy, hindi papasa sa mga hapon lalo na kung putol ang mga daliri! Pinagtagpi-tagping istorya mali pa!
Pati pangalan noong hapon na kasama daw sa plot ng destab laban kay pandak mali-mali. Never heard of the name Monotori! Saan napulot ang pangalang iyan?
May salita sa hapon na “monotori” na ibig sabihin manenekwat” or in other words “robber.” Bakit naman papangalanan ng mga magulang ng hapong iyan na magnanakaw ang anak nila. Alam ko may isang magulang na sira dito ang pinangalanan ang anak niyang “Akuma” na ang ibig sabihin ay “demonyo.” Talaga naman ang mga sira at mga inutil nagsama-sama na yata! Kahabag-habag!
That’s why I say that’s BS. There were many worse than Adaza who directly asked for the overthrow of the GMA government. Example was Gen. Abat who has never been charged. Abat is a certified FVR man.
Yuko, kaya nga dudang duda ako na Japanese itong sangkot dahil sa totoo lang, madalang ang mga loko loko sa mga Hapon. Maliban na lang kung miembro sila ng mga gang katulad ng Yakuza! Gagawa na rin lang ng istorya, sana naman yung believable na!
Update on Adaza et al:
Adaza, 5 others charged over ‘oust-Gloria plot’
by Raymond Africa
Lawyer Homobono Adaza and five former military and police officials were charged yesterday in connection with an alleged plot to overthrow the Arroyo administration.
Charged by the PNP Criminal Investigation and Detection Group were Adaza, former Colonels Oscarlito Mapalo, Cesar dela Peña and Ernie Amboy, former Supt. Rafael Cardeño, and retired colonel Edgardo Tapia, who is at large.
A separate case of obstruction of justice was filed against Adaza, Mapalo, Amboy, and Dela Peña for harboring Cardeño, who has a pending case before a Las Piñas City court in connection with the Dec. 31, 2001 slaying of self-styled Young Officers Union spokesman Baron Cervantes, said Senior State Prosecutor Emmanuel Velasco.
Cardeño was also charged with using a fictitious name. He identified himself as Randy Linares Marvella when CIDG agents arrested them in Room 1002 of the Holiday Inn Hotel, Robinson’s Galleria on Ortigas avenue in Pasig City Wednesday.
Velasco said a case of estafa/swindling was also filed against Adaza, Mapalo, Cardeño, Amboy, Dela Peña, and Tapia for allegedly accepting P1 million that the group demanded from Motonori Sakuma, a Japanese client of lawyer Raymond Fortun who arranged the entrapment of Adaza’s group.
Adaza said of Fortun: “He is a big liar! Wala akong natatanggap sa kanya na P1 million, baka mas marami pa akong pera sa kanya.”
Fortun said he was willing to testify in court “based on my own personal knowledge of the actions of the group” after he was also threatened with physical harm.
“I was told the money from my client would be used to oust the President,” he added.
PNP chief Avelino Razon said police have expanded an inquiry to determine the extent of the new plot and “find out who else might be involved.”
Velasco said he has 60 days to decide if there was enough basis to forward the charges to a local court where the men would then be formally charged.
All three former soldiers have been linked to several past coup attempts since 1989.
Velasco allowed Adaza to be confined at the PNP General Hospital inside Camp Crame for health considerations.
Cardeño was brought to Las Piñas City Regional Trial Court Branch 275 under Judge Bonifacio Maceda who issued the arrest warrant against him in connection with the Cervantes slay.
Dela Peña was brought to the Sandiganbayan Fifth Division which issued an arrest warrant on him Wednesday for the loss of 72 firearms in June 2000.
Mapalo and Amboy remain at the PNP Custodial Center.
ARREST QUESTIONED
During inquest proceedings, Adaza, who represents his co-accused along with lawyer Argee Guevarra, questioned the legality of their arrest. He said it cannot fall under the principle of warrantless arrest because the police agents have no personal knowledge of the alleged plot.
Velasco said it will be one of the issues to be resolved.
Guevarra said they are contemplating on filing countercharges against the CIDG for the alleged illegal arrest.
“This is clearly a violation of human rights. Bigla na lang silang dinakip. This inquest should not even take place,” Guevarra said before the inquest proceedings held at Camp Crame’s Multi-Purpose Center.
Fortun filed a complaint before the CIDG Wednesday after Adaza’s group allegedly demanded $4 million from his client to fund an uprising against the Arroyo government.
Fortun said Adaza’s group would kill two of his Japanese client’s associates and put the blame on Sakuma if they did not give in to the demand.
Fortun said his and Sakuma’s lives were also in danger because of their knowledge of the supposed plot.
He said his client already gave P1 million to the group on June 5, 2008 at the Bonifacio Global City.
‘NO DESTAB PLOT’
Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro and Armed Forces chief Gen. Alexander Yano said no coup is being hatched by military officers.
“There is no plot within the Armed Forces,” Teodoro said.
On the chance of a destabilization move succeeding, Teodoro said: “Zero. I can confidently say no destabilization move will succeed.”
Teodoro said if the five are indeed involved in a plot, the threat they pose is low “because unfortunately there is no credibility whatsoever in terms of launching a plot of the people who are supposed to be involved in this latest caper.”
Mapalo escaped from military custody a few years ago while facing court martial for questioning the military’s promotion system.
Adaza serves as counsel for one of the officers facing court martial indicted for the supposed power grab attempt in February 2006.
Dela Peña is affiliated with the Rebolusyonaryong Alyansang Makabansa and was involved in the 1989 coup.
Amboy was a protégé of former Marines commandant Lt. Gen. Edgardo Espinosa.
Espinosa was supposed to be among the military officers who were to go against the Estrada government but the move was overtaken by the Edsa 2 in January 2001, which ousted Joseph Estrada from the presidency.
NOT A SERIOUS CONCERN
Yano said the military has not monitored any coup plan. And if the PNP establishes that Adaza’s group is indeed involved in a coup plot, “we do not see that as a serious concern.”
“Anybody can attempt but as to the seriousness of that attempt, I do not consider it as something that we should be concerned about,” he said.
President Arroyo shrugged off reported coup plot.
“She’s not worried about any destabilization attempts,” Teodoro said.
Press Secretary Jesus Dureza said Malacañang is closely monitoring the developments of the case as it “involves national security issues.”
President Arroyo’s allies at the House said Fortun should tell everything he knows about the supposed plot which they described as “shameful and deplorable.”
Rep. Exequiel Javier (Lakas, Antique), chair of the House committee on ways and means, also said those behind the plot should forget their personal agenda and instead help government in attending to the victims of typhoon “Frank.”
Rep. Danilo Suarez (Kampi, Quezon) chair of the House oversight committee, said any new destabilization plot is “doomed to fail because of the sense of professionalism of members of the AFP and the PNP.” – With Victor Reyes, Jocelyn Montemayor and Wendell Vigilia
Why should she be worried? Alam naman niyang gawa-gawa lang ng mga inutusan niya iyon para manakot ng kung sinong gusto nilang takutin. Nakakasawa na sa totoo lang. Bistado na, ayaw pa rin kunyaring magpahalata. Ulol!
PSB: agawa na rin lang ng istorya, sana naman yung believable na!
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Sinabi mo pa, PSB. Kung may hapon na gagawa ng kalokohan sa ibang bansa, suicide na iyon, for the truth is a Japanese can be convicted in Japan for crimes committed overseas. May bagong batas na ipinasa dito some years back para nga maiwasan iyong mga yakuza, et al na gumawa ng kalokohan sa ibang bansa. At kung may kasalanan iyan, unlike Americans, hindi iyan tutulungan ng gobyerno kasi ang prinsipyo ay huwag nilang ipahiya ang bansa at lahi nila.
Golly, nag-imbento pa, mali pa! Pati pangalan noong hapon, mali-mali. Pinangalanan pa ng “manenekwat”! Unbelievable talaga.
Pero PSB, dito sa Japan, kilalang-kilala ang Pilipinas sa mga fugitives from the law. Doon sila pumupunta para magtago. Kaso, pagpunta sa Pilipinas, hanggat nakakabayad sila ng tong/suhol, etc. hindi sila nakikita. Pag wala na silang pera unahan iyong mga mokong (karamihan mga pulis din) na nire-report sila kuno sa pulis para ibalik sa Japan in exchange for some pabuya. In short, doble taga ang mga ungas na kakutsaba sa Pilipinas. Papaanong di ko alam, usap-usapan iyan ng mga pulis at media sa amin.
Kawawa tuloy iyong mga naiipit sa Pilipinas na walang mga kasalanan. Pag na-frame up, hindi makatakbo sa Japanese Embassy para humingi ng tulong dahil talagang sinasara ng embassy ang pintuan para sa kanila maliban na lang talaga siguro kung may kakilala sa embassy. Kung wala nabubulok sa kulungan sa Pilipinas gaya noong tinulungan naming na-frame up sa Bacolod.
Kaya advice na lang sa mga hapon, skip the Philippines para walang gulo! Kaya iyong DOT dito, hirap na ibenta ang Pilipinas, pero dahil sa mga Japayuki, mabenta ang mga pinay!
Palagi namang hindi worried si tianak kasi ay siya ang pasimuno ng lahat ng kukuruku-coup para palaging merong cover up sa kanyang palpak na pamamahala at korapsyon.
One thing the idiots do not apparently know is that when it comes to problems of Japan, talagang makikialam ang mga hapon, pero iyong problema ng Pilipinas, walang gunggong na hapon na papasok sa mga coup-coup ng mga kurakot. Pakialam nila sa problema ng mga pilipino lalo nat wala naman silang mapapakinabang.
Kahit mukhang tatanga-tanga ang mga hapon, marunong mag-isip ang ma iyan dahil wala sa kanilang mangmang! Di komo di sila nakakasalita ng ingles, bobo na sila. No way. Mas bobo nga iyong nag-imbento ng kuwentong kutserong ito ng kukuru-ku-rakot!
Mayroon na namang gustong pagtakpan si evil bitch, thus the Adaza et al kukurokuku!
Sioktong, could you please ask your uncle if it was true Bishop Manalo personally contacted solons to withdraw their signatures in that first impeachment against GMA?
Another Moro-moro na naman! Di na tayo nasanay! Sayang lang yang Fortun na yan. ganun na ba siya ka desperado sa limelight at datung? How very un-FORTUN-ate naman!
Meron daw destabilization na naman sa State of the EK Address ni Gloria de … Walang bibili niyan, bulok na!
BBS si bitch, nagpapa-imporante kasi ay ignore na lang siya ng kapinuyan. I-coup mo na ang sarili mo para may malaking balita sa iyo, ma-CNN ka pa.
Madali namang malaman kung talagang may kasalanan si Bono re the coup d’etat daw—mas OK pa kung sabihin nilang ku de etat which is what this Malacanang destab plot (mukhang pakulo pa yata noong kamag-anak ni Brenda na nakabalik na) is all about. Kung kilala mo ang calibre niya, alam mong BS ito dahil takot lang niyang inisin iyong mga patrons niyang nakasipsip kay Pandack Omama (‘Lamat, Tongue, for this name).
Nope, I don’t believe in this crap, nor the involvement of a Japanese daw to topple the Arroyo regime. Kaya naman ng Japan na ibagsak si unano without funding those who want to pull her down lalo na kung wala namang pakinabang sa Japan. Puede ba, huwag na silang mag-imbento ng istorya. Palpak naman. Hindi pa man bistado na! Destab plot kuno, meron man o wala, majority ng mga pilipino for a fact, gigil na gigil na kay Pandack Omama. Kaya nga trying hard na ipalabas na mabango siya sa mga kano na amo ng mga pilipino! Kunyari favorite siya kuno!
Grizzy,
Thanks for the info about the siblings of Marcos. I was just curious, that’s all.
Bitchevil,
This is what I learned from my uncle:
Manalo never called himself a bishop. His title is Executive Minister. Only the media keeps him calling bishop. Manalo never called any legislators to withdraw their signatures in any impeachments.
Why would INC meddle on an impeachment of an illegitimate occupant of malacañang? Even during the time of constitutional President Joseph Estrada, INC never meddled on his impeachment process.
Sioktong, please read: INC tipped balance for GMA, says solon First posted 01:35am (Mla time) Sept 07, 2005 By Philip C. Tubeza, Gil C. Cabacungan Jr.Inquirer News Service PRESIDENT GLORIA MACAPAGAL-ARROYO might have implored divine intervention in the most serious political crisis of her four-year administration but it was the hand of the influential Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) that ensured that the impeachment process would be decided in her favor, administration officials said yesterday. Albay Representative Joey Salceda said the INC tipped the balance in favor of the President when the religious sect decided to flex its muscles and called on members of the House of Representatives whom its flock helped get elected in 2004.”The Iglesia came in at a crucial moment last week by putting the brakes on the signature campaign (by the pro-impeachment camp) just when it was starting to snowball,” Salceda said. The President’s economic adviser noted that the common denominator among those who were absent or those who abstained from the voting was their debt of gratitude to the INC. “The (INC) helped her (President Arroyo) not once, but twice,” said Salceda in reference to the crucial role played by the sect in Ms Arroyo’s victory over the king of Philippine movies, Fernando Poe Jr., in the 2004 elections. Tears of joy A Malacañang source confirmed the INC’s role in holding the fort for the President, who was grateful for the religious sect’s support. “The President was brought close to joyous tears when she learned that it was Ka Erdie Manalo (INC’s spiritual leader) who was calling the lawmakers one by one,” the source said. Salceda said that the INC was a prime believer in the status quo and that this was not an opportune time to be rocking the boat in the face of the crises facing the country.But while the INC proved to be the President’s trump card, Salceda said the opposition should not look beyond itself for losing the impeachment battle because of their “big-ticket blunders.”‘
According to the article you posted, Albay representative Joey Salceda (KAMPI), who at that time was tiyanak pidal’s economic adviser, claimed that Manalo personally called lawmaker’s one by one to overturn the impeachment process of tiyanak pidal.
My questions to you are:
What is the total number of members in the House of Representatives?
How many congressmen was was Pro-tiyanak pidal, meaning in the pocket of arroyo, and how many congressmen was in the Opposition? How many many votes were required to required to overturn an impeachment process? I believe it needs at least 150-180 votes to overturn it.
Let simplify it. Let’s assume that Manalo have that kind of time to waste on calling those Congressmen. Also, let say Manalo needs to call just 30 members of the Lower House to overturn the impeachment. Why did Salceda could not produce even a single member of a Lower House, whom Salceda claimed Manalo called to overturn the impeachment, to corroborate his allegation?
I remember Amb. Maceda of Tribune wrote about this Salceda’s story within a week when this story surfaced and commented that he, Maceda, did not find anything on what Salceda was blabbing about. Malaya did not even ran a story about it. INC Central found it that it is not worth their time to even comment on it. Comment about what?
I am just wondering what motivated Salceda to make INC their scapegoat in overturning the first impeachment process of an illegitimate occupant of malacañang?
Well, I guess that article about Salceda’s revelation is a gospel truth to you.
Sioktong, the influence of INC on government cannot be disputed. Even during the time of Cory, INC threatened to order her members to march in the streets to protest about oil increase. Cory had to send an emissary in the person of the late Monching Mitra to calm down Manalo. The Cuevas family has cornered lots of government transactions. Ask the LTO insiders and they would tell you how influential the brother of former Justice Serafin Cuevas is. INC also endorsed her members within the AFP and PNP. Examples are PNP Directors Radovan and Zafra. At BOC, a certain Celso Templo is an INC member. Manalo’s son-in-law (Danao) used to lord over the BOC until his fake credentials were unmasked. As for Manalo calling the solons during the first impeachment, I personally don’t believe it was he who called. Manalo has been very sick for quite sometime now. I presume it was his son Edwardo Manalo who called. Edwardo is the one running the INC now being the successor.
Bitchevil,
Let’s deal with the article that you posted first and then we will deal with other issues you want to discuss.
The only answer that I received from you concerning the article that you posted were:
“As for Manalo calling the solons during the first impeachment, I personally don’t believe it was he who called. Manalo has been very sick for quite sometime now. I presume it was his son Edwardo Manalo who called. Edwardo is the one running the INC now being the successor.”
Does it matter if Salceda was referring to Eraño Manalo or Eduardo Manalo who alledgedly called them one by one? The point is what you had posted about Salceda’s revelation, which you accepted as gospel truth, is a FARCE.
Sayang si Bono.
Sioktong, the more you try to defend INC, the more it shows you’re a member. At the very least, you’ve been expelled. When did I ever say I accepted Salceda’s revelation as Gospel truth? I posted that article to prove that there was a report about INC’s meddling in the first impeachment against GMA. INC does things and deals with others in secrecy. Most are hesitant to mention INC’s name for obvious reason. You have not directly responded to my query yet why INC endorsed GMA when it’s INC’s teaching that a woman should not lead a nation.
bitchevil Says:
July 6th, 2008 at 11:38 am
“I posted that article to prove that there was a report about INC’s meddling in the first impeachment against GMA.”
Wow, bitchevil by posting that article means you had proven that INC was meddling on the first impeachment? Just suck the word of Salceda and it is a proof of already of meddling? Oh, Salceda could not divulge it to press because the press will tell INC about it. What a weird reasoning. Is Amb. Maceda good enough to be an honorable writer for you to hide his source?
I explained it to you already but I will try again.
The nation that was referred to in the bible was the nation of God. Which was the nation of God ? His people. Who are His people during that time? The first century Church of Christ. There was no woman leader of Israel during that time. Now, during these last days which is considered by God to be His nation, according to the bible? It is the Church of Christ. It does not say in the bible that during these last days that the nation of God is the Philippines or any other country. It say’s there, His nation is the Church of Christ. That’s why there is no woman leader of INC.
Yes, I admit to you that I was expelled because I was drinking to much sioktong. That’s why I am relegated to a sympathizer of INC.
We can dicuss about that Cory and other issues you raised but not at this time because it is a long story. This thread will look like a novel by the time we finish, if we ever finish. When the right thread comes up just bring it up and we will discuss specific issues and not aggregated issues. Besides, we are here just to exchange opinions and hopefully learn from it.
I don’t know about you bitchevil but I have to finish shining shoes of my customer, so I will talk to you again next time.
Cheers
I bet may gusto lang gumanti kay Adaza. Just a few months ago, he filed a case in court about a claim of a relative of the Fat Guy in Mindanao saying that his family in fact owns the Philippines by virtue of the fact that the money paid by the US to Spain was borrowed from his family. I actually wanted to follow up the said case but there was no follow up news on it. Siguro nagkabulolyaso kaya iniipit ngayon si Adaza, a name I have never heard connected with any resistance movement against the squatters at Malacanang. In other words, nagpapabango ng mga pangalan ang mga ungas at the expense of an innocent Japanese victim!!! Iyan ang tarantado. Pero mas tarantado iyong mga ungas na nag-iimbestiga kuno sa mga involved daw sa destab made in Malacanang, and trying hard to fan a non-existent fire. Kahit nga usok wala naman!
Remember the old adage, “If there is a smoke, there is a fire.” Pero itong kasi nina Adaza, iyan ang kaso ng may umutot, mabaho!!! 😛
Sioktong, another INC’s teaching is “one is binding on earth is binding in heaven”. INC also often uses the excuse of meddling in government by saying her members are also citizens of the country who are mostly poor. Did you remember those young kids salvaged in Manila and thrown to the river just because of a basketball fight?
Correction: “What is binding on earth is binding in heaven”.
INC is fond of using this verse to justify their actions, good or bad, on earth.
By the way sioktong, I don’t believe that you were expelled due to drinking. Many of you ministers are drinking too.
So, supalpal ka ngayon sa nation of God na sinasabi mo kaya binabago mo naman ang topic.
Bitchevil, supalpal ka ngayon sa nation of God na sinasabi mo kaya binabago mo na naman ang topic.
You want another supalpal?
Sioktong, I don’t deviate from the topic. My statements were all interrelated. You sure talk like a fanatic INC. I hope you don’t belong to the INC Liquidation Squad. I pity your uncle for having a bastard nephew like you. Make him proud dude. Make INC proud. Or you belong to a different INC (I Need Cock)…
Hey dude, coward like you is just all talk.
Do you agree that INC is a Cult?
Wow, daming alam ni bitchevil sa INC! I’m curious, but if you won’t be offended, are you a follower of Eli Soriano? You may not answer at all.
But you can answer this. Either bitchevil or sioktong. Meron akong barkada nung high school at college, si Albert Albert, yung weirdo na singer noon na hindi makasali sa banda namin dahil TH mag-gitara. Pero in college, natanggap sa UP Conservatory at naging mas magaling pa sa amin. Sumikat pa nga sa mainstream sandali, nag-concert kasama yung dalawa pang Albert – sina Nadine at Joey Albert. Nagulat ako ng makita ko nung ikasal sa anak ni Manalo sa TV. Engrande, sa HQ ng INC kinasal, kumpleto ang attendance. Sigurado ako, siya yon. Tama ba ako?
Albert Albert is married to Beth Manalo, Erdie Manalo’s daughter. The late Joel Alano used to court Beth but the guy unexpectedly died of heart attack. Eli Soriano of Dating Daan is currently INC’s number one foe. Many of INC’s members and even ministers went to Soriano’s group; hence, the ongoing conflict.
To answer your question, I’m neither with Soriano nor Manalo’s group. I’ve become allergic to organized religions. Religion has become one huge money-making organization.
By the way, sioktong can deny this and I don’t care: Recently, one former INC minister who transferred to Soriano’s Ang Dating Daan was murdered by one INC Deacon in Pampanga. The killer is nowhere to be found. As usual, nothing is heard of the case.
This is what Enrile said in an interview on radio according to Tribune:
At least, he’s talking. Best thing for him to do, too, is to defend Bono in the court. I also remember in fact, the closeness of Enrile to Fortun. Tagaan na talaga sa likod ang mga kumag!!!
So what if it’s just an opinion? To most of us, Nene’s opinion carries more weight than Enrile’s. Enrile is a goner.
Thanks, bitchevil, for the reply. Close kami noon ni Albertsquared before parting after college. Now, I know may padrino ako sa INC just in case.
Napapanood ko nga yung mainit na laban ng dalawang grupo, idinamay na nga pati MILF. Gutter-level na ang tirahan. Pero kitang-kita kung sino ang mahusay gumamit ng impluwensiya. Kahit patayan na ang laban.
Beth Manalo is also very close to Sharon Cuneta. I think Sharon was among the secondary or principal sponsors in the wedding. Both Beth and Albert are writing religious hymns for the church.
Opinyon ko lang po tungkol sa Con Ass ni GMA, ultimatum na pagkaganid na ito ni GMA at ng ma Aroyo sa puwesto.Isipin ninyo namumulaklak na ang pamilyang AROYO sa kongreso nagbabalak pang pasukin ni GMA ang kongreso.Sa takot niya GMA na makasuhan siya at buo niyang pamilya sa sandamamak na pagnanakaw ay ayaw na tilang bumitiw sa kahit anupamang puwesto sa gobyerno.Ngayon ay punong-puno ng kaba ang laman ng kanyang dibdib sa sandaling mawala na siya sa puwesto at balikan ng mga bagong uupo sa Malakanyang.Ang buong GMA administration na ang pinaka sakim at punong-puno ng pagnanakaw kung ihahambing sa lahat ng naging Pangulo siya na ang pinaka-makasalalan kaya dapat lang siyang hatulan ng bitay at kasama na ang buong niyang pamilya, FG,DADO,Mikcey at Igi Arroyo kasama pa ang buo niyang opisyal.At kung isasama pa ang mga bayaring Congressman ay baka ila na lang ang matitira sa Kongreso kasi nga puro babayaring kongreso ang mga kaalyado ni GMA.Saka halos lahat ng sangay o departamento ng Gobyerno ganun din ang mga opisyal ng Militar at PNP ay puro sila magnanakaw halos wala ka na malalapitan sa kanilang tunay ang serbisyo sa bayan.Kaya para sa akin nakakatakot ng umuwi sa Pilipinas tingin ko mula sa Malakanyang hangang sa lansangan na may kaugnayan sa gobyerno ay puro sila buwaya, magnanakaw o kawatan na handang manibasib ng kaluluwa ng taong bayan.Ayoko na natatakot na ako sa sarili kong bayan…Punta na lang ako sa Iraq atleast alam ko kung sino ang kalaban.
Hi Miss Ellen,
I I know Colonel Mapalo. I knew him personally, he’s a good guy when he was still a 2nd Lt. He was a simple guy. I don’t know now.
Does anyone know his whereabouts? Did he get married?
Many thanks for the information