“It’s futile asking GMA to resign’
Caption:Lozada, Charmaine Deogracias of NHK TV, and myself
ZTE star witness Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. yesterday called on upright members of the Armed Forces and Philippine National Police to make a stand on the issue of corruption hounding the Arroyo administration.
In an interview at La Salle Greenhills, Lozada said the opposition should abandon its call for President Arroyo to resign. “She has to be ousted.”
Lozada said given the arrogance of Arroyo and her officials, “people must really be prepared to bring this political crisis to a boil.” He added that people should stop deluding themselves that she will resign.
“She will never resign because they have committed so many crimes that the only way to exit is when they are dead,” he said.
He said when public outrage over disclosures of huge kickbacks by First Gentleman Mike Arroyo and officials close to Malacañang in the NBN-ZTE deal were beginning to intensify, he overheard a Cabinet member saying, “Hindi natin ibibigay ito (the government) na walang patayan (we will not give this up without bloodshed).”
“That’s why we have to appeal to the military and the police,” he said.
Lozada said “the people are already stirring,” noting that students and members of the religious, who in the past kept away from opposition rallies, are now out in the streets denouncing corruption and the use of repressive measures against critics of the Arroyo government. “It’s time for the men in uniform to start their own discernment.”
“Nakikita na nila (soldiers and policemen) na lahat ng powers of the state are being used against the citizens – wiretapping, kidnapping. Nakikita na nila na ginagamit na ito laban sa mamayan nila. Wala ba silang konsyensya?” he asked.
Addressing the men in uniform, Lozada said: “Sa mga mabubuting elemento ng military at police, we are putting you on notice.”
In the “Mass for Truth” at his alma mater, the University of Santo Tomas, Lozada expressed gratitude to the Catholic Church, other religious groups and the public for their help and support.
He told a huge crowd that it is the pledge of support of religious groups and the public that makes him strong and encourages him to persevere in wanting to reveal the truth.
“Maraming salamat po sa simbahan! Salamat sa taong bayan! Mabuhay po tayong lahat.”
It was a homecoming of sorts as Lozada graduated at UST in 1984 with a degree in Electronics and Communications Engineering.
In attendance were Lozada’s family led by his wife Violet, former President Corazon Aquino, Sen. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III and Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim.
Mrs. Aquino appealed to Lozada, his family and to the public to muster enough patience in their fight versus the “evils” in the government.
“Ayaw ko po kayo i-discourage pero baka matatagalan pa po tayo dahil hindi pa po natin nagigising nang husto ang ating mga kababayan na nagtutulug-tulugan po ata at ayaw idilat ang kanilang mga mata sa katotohanan. Kanya lamang hindi ako nawawalan ng pag-asa. Kung yung diktador e napaluhod natin, siguro naman mas madadalian na tayo dahil wala tayong martial law ngayon… at sana huwag magkaroon ng martial law,” she said.
She added, “Jun, konting tiis lamang, konting paghihirap. Siguro ikaw talaga ang napili upang madilat ang mga mata naming lahat kung ano talaga ang katotohanan. Kung hindi dahil sa’yo, ilan lang sa amin ang makakaalam kung ano talaga ang nangyayari sa ating pamahalaan. Maraming salamat din Violet (Lozada), alam ko kung ano ang pinagdadaanan mo ngayon. Huwag kayong mawawalan ng pag-asa. Madami ang nananalangin sa iyo Jun at sa iyong pamilya.”
The UST is among the universities that hosted a Mass for Lozada. The others are De La Salle, Ateneo de Manila, University of the Philippines, Adamson University and Polytechnic University of the Philippines. – Ellen Tordesillas and Gerard Naval
In a way, I agree with Lozada that it’s futile to ask Gloria to resign.
The woman’s gargantuan greed knows no bounds, greed for power is her aphrodisiac, her sense of being, her be all to life — she’ll probably resign with the barrel of a gun pointed at her.
Of course, she will not resign for as long as her spoiled boyfriends at Camp Crame are ever-willing to protect her, and provide her with a refuge/sanctuary!
Imagine the long list of criminal offenses that will be filed against her, her husband and her cohorts, and if proven guilty, may spend the rest of her life in prison.
Too bad there is no more death penalty in the Philippines. Para sana mabawasan ang mga ulupong!
No wonder, Lozada was so afraid for his life. He actually had only 2 options. If he cooperated with the crooks, he would be saved but he would be bothered by his conscience for the rest of his days. If not, he would be “salvaged.” He chose to tell the truth at the peril of his life, etc.
Given Jun’s latest disclosures, it renders Neri additional revelation moot & academic. And also, it explains Neri’s continuous stroll into the dark side as a sign he had given up hope?
It seems not only will this evil bitch not step down “un” graciously by 2010, increasingly, she will cling to power beyond at all costs!
If a few good men at this juncture are unlikely, what’s ideal? Vigilante justice probably?
The arrogance of Gloria Arroyo to stay in power without public support will lead to bloodshed. She claimed her mandate came from heaven that’s the reason why Gloria Arroyo must stay in power at whatever cost. GMA government has no conscience. It’s not responsive to the pulse of the nation. The Filipino people have no other option but to force her out. She wants more blood in her hands. Oust evil bitch Gloria!
I once said before, military and religious institution should stay out of politics, because I strongly believe that the Philippines Constitution is very explicit and must be respected at all time, at any cost. It’s the only written documents that separate us from becoming a barbaric nation. Two wrongs doesn’t make it right. Though, I have lots of respect to Mr. Jun Lozada and others brave enough for coming forward with the truths and to put their life and family in danger, I’d however disagree for calling AFP to stand on issue of corruption. Military shouldn’t get involve or to take side in local politics, unless the country first amended the constitution. It’s a must that military remain neutral in local poitics. Unmistakably, I’m in support of People Power and ousting Gloria by force, it’s the only way to rid of corrupt Gloria, but it must be done by ordinary citizens, excluding military and religious groups. I said it all along, evil bitch will not resign or surrender the office of presidency and since she bought majority of the congressmen in Congress, impeachement is out of the question. Million Warm Bodies of ordinary just plain citizens, no matter how long it take, is the call to rid of evil Gloria for forever.It seemed, all the Phil. Presidents one way or another used the Military for poitical gain, it now must stop if we are going to demand the rule of law. It shouldn’t have any exception, and we shouldn’t go down to evil Gloria’s level. At the same time, the ordinary citizens must put the military on notice to stay out of politics. The Philippines Constitution must the guiding beacon if we to have law and order.
Finally, someone said it in public, that gloria will not voluntarily resign, and she and her minions should be ousted by force!
Freedom and liberty are without paying a costly price, including bloodshed. And, violence is the only thing evil bitch Gloria will respect. Choices left is none, and showdown is a must. Rhetoric has already been exhausted in congress and streets. Gloria must now go!
Mr. Cuevas, the military and religious groups cannot stay out of politics. They are part and parcel of our political institution. The separation between the church and state as well as between the military and civilian government have become a myth. We see it not only in the Philippines, but in many countries especially the third world countries. Please tell us, how do we oust Gloria Arroyo then? When asked if she’s willing to resign, she replied “Over my dead body”. Therefore, the only way to get rid of her is to oust her even if it means killing her.
Btw, folks, the Gloria Resign blogswarm is now a headline news… PDI
Manila Bay Watch: Jen-Jen’s Gloria resign blogswarm is headline news!
If some miracle, I hope, evil bitch Gloria is ousted. My greatest hope that Gloria and co-horts will not be given a choice or opportunity to leave the country and do ala Marcos on the Pilipinos. All the sacrifices will be all for nothing. Gloria must remain in the Philippines to answer for her crime, she must be used to set an example for future leaders of the country. People’s must put fear on these leaders that they can’t abuse their power and get away. Crime must pay!
bitchevil: Philippines Constitution surely is not a myth. I sure hope not. Moreover, Philippines must now begin a new order, we, the people must change the old ways of governing. The people, if they want to take their gov’t back, they must be active to making sure the Philippines Constitution are followed to the letter. I once said, one million civilians on the street, has more power than the 15,000 AFP and PNP put together.
If for any reason the military would intervene, evil bitch Gloria is ousted, we are no better than evil bitch Gloria. How can we make changes on our system of govt, our culture, and the way we accepted things of unacceptable behavior as normal, if we don’t understand the problem?
I agree with you, Mr. Cuevas. The long years of meddling in politics by the church has inflicted on the minds of the people. Take the Catholic Church for example, the most active and meddling group, they always flip flop on their position. In frustration, Jun Lozada has threatened to renounce his Catholic faith. He cannot fathom why the church refuses to heed the cries and pleas of the people. What’s the difference today as compared to the two Edsas the church supported? As a matter of fact, it’s a lot worse today. Yet, CBCP prefers to look the other way. If Jun Lozada indeed decides to leave the Catholic Church, he might as well join the group of Bro. Eddie Villanueva’s Jesus is Lord. At least, JIL is more consistent in its position.
Madam Cory kung kayo po ay lalaban hanggang sa dulo para kay Mr. Lozada…
ISAMA na po ninyo ako sa laban na yan! Walang iwanan!!!
Jun Lozada is absolutely right. Gloria will never resign and she will fight up to the end even if blood will flood the streets of Manila. The reason is quite obvious. As Enrile aptly put it: “Resign and you’re dead”
Regarding the call on the military to make a stand, they already did a long time ago. Their stand is to protect Gloria at all cost even if they have to waste the lives of their fellow Filipinos. It is their covenant with the devil, the evil bitch herself. It all goes down to about power and money.
I understand, the call is on the upright members of the military. OK so we know that majority of the soldiers are good men. The question is how many of these good men are willing and brave enough to do a Trillanes, Lim, Miranda, Faeldon and the others. These few good men tried to arouse and call on the conscience of the others by staging a mini-revolt but nobody came out and we know where they are now, how they are badly treated by Gloria and her Assperon. From there one can deduce that they are afraid to face the same fate as Trillanes et al just in case they will not succeed in ousting Gloria. That’s why they just have to contend with the unwanted situation we are in under Gloria and her mafia gangsters and keep the grumblings all by themselves. But just the same, we have to have hope though how little it maybe that one day somehow these good men make their stand and stand side by side with the people in ousting Gloria and her rotten members of the military.
Yeah, Lozada is right… Gloria won’t resign. Gaya ng payo ni huklubang Enrile that She will be dead if she quits! Inspired din siya sa mga obispo ng CBCP (Coddlers of Bogus & Covetous President) which even suggested she take the lead in fighting corruption!!! (Again, only in the Philippines) They were bewitched by the charm of this SOCIOPATH.
About Sociopath: Pls. read below “Inside the Mind of a Sociopath” excerpt from the book “The Sociopath Next Door: The Ruthless vs. the Rest of Us” by Martha Stout, Ph.D –
http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm
How to “Spot a Sociopath” by Robert A. J. Matthews –
http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/teleg.htm
How do you score Gloria?
It seems Lozada is is more gutsy than those of mga paring panis (na nakakainis) when it comes to telling the thruth. He is showing more of the Light. Mga pari nga ba sila o modern pharisees in the bible who condemned Jesus to death. This CBCP (Coddlers of Bogus & Covetous President) just let the Bitch to feed more on our nation’s coffer.
Congrats, bloggers!
Many of Ellenville’s visitors have been featured in today’s Inquirer: “Bloggers mount ‘EDSA revolution’ online”.
Take note of our friends – Kabayan, MBW, cvj, bystander, jen, and paeng were mentioned in the article about the Feb.24-25 blogswarm.
Read here : technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20080302-122341/Bloggers-mount-EDSA-revolution-onlineMabuhay ang blogosphere!
Mabuhay ang mga cyber-dissidents!
“Lozada said the opposition should abandon its call for President Arroyo to resign. “She has to be ousted.”
In this respect, Lozada calls for the AFP and PNP to make a stand. Naiinip na rin si Lozada tulad natin.
And yet, Cory Aquino was saying fight may take longer because she does not entertain any other forms of ousting Gloria but voluntary resignation of the bitch. Hindi “ousting” iyan kundi paghihintay sa wala!
“Fight may take longer”, aabutin pa ng beyond 2010 kung si Mrs. Aquino ang masusunod. Ang tagaaaaaaal! Pwede ba, Ngayon na?!
chi;
If Gloria will not resign,she need to be dragged out in Malacanang by force.Sobra na ang pagpapahirap niya sa bayan pati iyung mga nasa probinsya na makikipag rally ay hinaharang.Sobra na!
GMA will not resign..and will be President for life, if we don’t do anything..kaya kailangan na siyang hatakin at hilain sa buhok (just make sure na hindi wig)..tulay ang ating dasal..para umalis siya..Incidentally, noong unang basa ko na she went to Crame to rest..ang akala ko she went there to rest in peace..kailan kaya?
Jun Lozada called on AFP and PNP to make a stand..pero mukhang comfortable at sa bigat na laman ng bulsa na hirap sila…”where are all the soldiers gone? when will they ever learn?”
rose;
Nagtago ba sa cabinet ni Razon si bitsi-bitsi ng nagpunta sa crame?
With the situation being untenable, it’s every man for himself. As Avelino Razon was speaking on TV that protesters should be allowed to reach Makati, police personnel were blocking protesters on the highways leading to Manila. Clearly, no one is in charge. Gloria has to be ousted as she will never resign and would do anything just to glue her a*s in Malacañang.
Thanks for info, Tongue. Will check.
Rose:
Bago pa naging Senador si Gloria Dorobo alam ko nang may ambisyong magin reyna ang ungas. Nauso na noon ang Internet kaya even then, marami na siyang publicity na tatakbo siya. Then, she came to Japan to seek for funding from some groups here (mga lobbyists na promoters ng mga Japayuki, I guess) like the others before her.
Unang tingin ko lang sa kaniya, pulsed ko nang may toyo sa ulo, and wanted to be like royalty kasi unang-unang request sa Philippine embassy dito ng pumunta siya noon was to get her an appointment with their Imperial Highnesses. I don’t think it was granted even when she wanted to give the impression that she got the appointment. Otherwise, bakit hindi alam ng asawa niya ang isusuot niya when they were granted an audience at the Imperial Palace years after? Golly, naghanap daw ng maisusuot iyong damulag sa mga rental shop!
Pangarap ng ungas na maging reyna sa totoo lang. Amenable daw nga ang ungas to relinquish her present stolen title, basta gawin siyang reyna o prinsesa. Kinilig nga iyan nang tawagin ng isang pilipina ng Princss Laila, na title na ibinigay sa kaniya ng King of Brunei. Susmaryosep! Lukaret na Midget pa!
For fellow Ateneans who want to sign the petition for all co-alumni/alumnae who are now serving under this government to resign, click here to add your signature to the online campaign.
HARK BACK TO YOUR ROOTS: LUX IN DOMINO.
Over-my-dead-body mode si gloria ngayon sa pagbaba sa pwesto. If she really cares for this country and it’s people, she needs to step down now in peaceful means. All hell will break lose if she doesn’t. Nobody really wants that, but, if she insists.
TO:AFP/PNP, are you for the people or that bogus president? Would you rather kill a lot of civilians fighting for their beloved country for that evil-bitch’s sake that is selling-out your very own motherland? Please take a refresher course about the Philippine constitution very soon before you make your choice…
I hope when the time comes, those good soldiers will stand up and fight for the Filipino people against this bogus President and company. I think the end is near for them, kailangan lang after that ay mabawi ang mga ninakaw ng mga iyan at gamitin para sa ikakabuti ng lahat like pabahay, edukasyon, medical, etc..
HI Ate Ellen! Thanks for meeting us po last Friday. Kahit po nawala ‘yung cellphone ko (whaaa!) eh sulit dahil nakadagdag ako sa pagdami ng gustong magpahayag noong Byernes. Nakapanghihinayang lang at nasayang ang kuha ko kay Tita Cory at yung mga pics ko kasama ang iba’t-ibang idols ko (kasama ka) eh andun sa cp. Hiniram ko muna po yung cp ng aking panganay and i hope you can text me po your number uli. My new (este my daughter’s number) is… Kahit mawala ang cp ko tuwing may rally, mawala lang si Glori!
OUT OF TOPIC: nabasa ko yung post ni Tita Ellen yesterday about the supposed “walkout”. Ako din, I was very concerned about Malacanang playing up the “walkout” thingie, when there was nothing of the sort. We are falling for their ploy. 2 days nang nasa harap ng mga dyaryo yang non-event na yan.
parasamasarap: baka yong sinasabi nilang nag walkout ay ihing ihi na o kaya taeng tae na at dali dali lumabas akala nila ay nag walkout..The sky is falling indeed…
Chi: nagsalita na yong Bishop of Bataan..kaya lang malambot pa rin..
rose: it was all a part of the propaganda of this bullshit administration. I have read in many articles about Razon et al giving reasons why people were beginning to leave at around 8pm. Para namang alam nila yung nasa isip nung mga taong nag-rally at nabigyan sila ng authority to speak for them. Kesyo na turn-off daw sa presence ni Tita Cory at Erap on stage. Anuman ang dahilan nung mga rallyists eh sila Razon ang huling tao na makakaalam kung anuman ‘yun. For all we know, natatae na nga.
parasamasarap ang other bloggers:
Look at what the administration of the Evil Bitch is doing, they are taking advantage of the non-issue of the supposed walk out that happened during the rally because of Erap’s presence. This is what I’ve been telling you guys on the ill effects of the rantings of Leah Navarro’s Black and White Movement, Boy Saycon and other Evil Society groups. They should be stopped from creating intramurals among the groups against the Evil Bitch.
I hope now that you understand my point on why i am so concerned about the actuations of the Evil Society groups, they are being used by the Bitches people!
ONE BIG FIGHT…mabuhay si ms ellen at taga ellenville university..
Read the story ng dalawang manloloko at inutil sa AFP at PNP as revealed by the respectable Gen Farolan in his Inquirer column!
Reveille
The story behind the AFP-PNP unity walk
By Ramon J. Farolan
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:03:00 03/03/2008
But back to the story behind the AFP-PNP unity walk. In the early morning hours of Monday, February 25th, this conversation was recorded by wiretapping elements of an intelligence-gathering group.
Gen. Razon: Mistah, ano bang gagawin natin pagkatapos ng flag-raising sa Edsa?
Gen. Esperon: Hinahamon tayo ng class ’76. Dalhin mo ang golf set mo at mag-laro tayo sa Aguinaldo.
Gen. Razon: Eh, paano tayo makaka-alis sa Edsa? Nakakahiya naman kung basta mag-disappear tayo agad.
Gen. Esperon: Ganito, sabihin mo sa staff mo na magkapit-bisig tayo, kasama ang army, air force at navy commanders patungong Aguinaldo. Pag-dating natin doon, derecho sa clubhouse, bihis at tee-off agad!
Gen. Razon: Maganda ’yan, mistah. Pero baka tatawag si “4 by 4” (Palace codename).
Gen. Esperon: Akong bahala. Sasabihin ko na pinaguusapan natin ang anti-coup operations.
(End of conversation)
Hat tip to Manuel Buencamino of http://www.Uniffors.com
By the way, will you guys go sa rally sa March 8, 2008 daw ?? 🙂
In the present situation of the country, I’m all for the intervention of the military. They are the missing numbers in the equation to solve the problem of ousting Gloria.
When a country is ruled by a president who never won the position in an election and yet turned out to be the most evil, most corrupt president and her family as the head of the most dreaded organized crime family, ousting her in any way either with in or outside the constitution is fair game. Calling then on the military to intervene in ousting an evil, corrupt, thief and criminal head of state who by her own actions and body language indicates that she intends to rule beyond her illegal mandated term, is the best thing to do if that’s the only viable option left for the people. Of course we don’t know what’s in store in such a scenario, but it is better to gamble and bet than just sitting down, doing nothing and just watches the country goes to the dogs.
I agree with you andres. Some people just can’t set aside their differences for the common good. They have too much pride to swallow.
This fight against the lucky bitch will go on; with or without them!
By the way, is there a proof on the wiretapping conversation of gen.E and Gen.R ??
Andres / Ipaglaban:
‘di ko alam kung ano sasabihin ko. Ang alam ko kelangan natin yung bawat isa na opposed kay Gloria na magpakita at magpahayag tuwing may rallies. No event nga eh and you’re falling to the spin of Malacanang. Dapat walang sila-sila at tayo-tayo. Iisa lang ang laban natin.
Ucvlized, biro lang yung conversation.
Guys, let’s protect Jun Lozada. Please visit this site:
http://blogs.gmanews.tv/joe-torres/archives/33-Arroyo-deal-impacts-on-balance-of-power.html
They are attacking Jun Lozada’s credibility. This blog should not be dominated by pro-Arroyo’s bloggers.
This is a new people power, PEOPLE POWER on blog sites against corruption, against corrupt Gloria Arroyo’s regime!!!
Thanks Ellen for the clarification, di ko kasi nabasa kanina sa inquirer un column.
PSM: Ang alam ko kelangan natin yung bawat isa na opposed kay Gloria na magpakita at magpahayag tuwing may rallies. No event nga eh and you’re falling to the spin of Malacanang. Dapat walang sila-sila at tayo-tayo. Iisa lang ang laban natin.
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Sinabi mo pa. Ang alam ko Leah is still calling up all old and new rallyists to join the marches, etc. they are coordinating with everyone in this movement to oust Gloria Dorobo. Ang alam ko BnW has been most instrumental in fact in mobilizing the kolehiyalas from even Assumption to join via the CEAP and AMRSP. Hindi hakot iyan ha. Voluntary lahat!
As for Saycon, who is he? Has been na rin iyan! Kung gustong umalis ni Saycon, so what?
Lozada’s senate revelation on government corruption was invidious with an equivalent sense of drama. It made him an instant celebrity and no one knows exactly how many people have jumped over the wall and sided with him.
The Arroyo government of course, has always suffered defections from the ranks of its bound servants such as the Hyatt 10. But those who left usually went to become an individual leaders of opposition groups and not in battalion. The best-known rebels were usually heretics or martyr like Ninoy whose political liberalism prefigured modern People’s Power movements started in EDSA. Some of those heroes left in shame, branded as political misfits. Others were simply embittered by their personal well-being, or were unwilling to meet the stern demands of the people.
Any present opposition can argue that Lozada is really a challenge to Pidalism authority. To a certain extent, secular society would agree. In issue of seeking truth exodus on the nature of corrupt government and the way in which its evil practice are formulated.
Since our country gained total independence, the Philippine military are consistent defender of the principles of the constitution, which envisions government from the top by code and decree, with moral and integrity established by deductive reasoning from a priori principles .that is not to argue that tomorrow’s vision is necessarily better than yesterday’s, or that the military rebels are certain to be more accurate prophets than any political traditionalists. In an era of stress and uncertainty, those who stand and serve in obedience to the constituition may ultimately demonstrate more wisdom than those who are challenging it. Despite Lozada’s clamor for change there is no guarantee that PNP and AFP will become an option for Devil-Bitch ouster.
I totally agree with Neonate on his opinion on Lozada’s call for the AFP and PNP to make a stand can be interpreted as urging them to break the chain of command, a move that can have unforeseen results – violent confrontation between loyalists and rebels escalating to civil war, or a junta — a classic case where the cure prescribed would be worse than the disease.
Amen, grizzy. Amen!
It was obvious this “walkout” hoopla is nothing but a demolition job. It took them in fact 2 or 3 days to make an issue of the walkout of Saycon, and some agent of the creep, most probably pushing the likes of Leah Navarro to make such statements on Erap via TV that I don’t find to have any bearing at all to the success of the rally last Friday. What is nauseating is how members of this demolition team try to infiltrate blogs like this pretending to be sympathizers of the movement for the removal of the creep but have yet to prove what they have done to help this movement succeed.
I, for one, have been coordinating with BnW since as far back as 2003 or even earlier in correcting the wrong committed in 2001 of helping the crook to get to the presidency as she and her husband planned since as far back day one of Erap’s presidency.
In fact, Gloria must have learned it from her father, who did not do something like EDSA 2, but definitely did his best to make then President Garcia incompetent and a bad leader even when he actually tried to curtail graft and corruption and the rampant squandering of public funds with his policy of austerity. For that Garcia lost his bid for a reelection.
Magaling talaga sa publicity itong mga Pidal. I just read something online on Eva Macapagal being given credit for cleaning daw Malacanang to make it liveable.
On the contrary, improvement and massive renovation of the palace should be credited more to Imelda Marcos at a great cost due to the kickbacks that were padded to the bills. In fact, it was Imelda who made the palace fit for royalties to stay during state visits to the Philippines, thus, the gold-plated bathtubs, etc. For all that she was, Imelda at least had better tastes.
Now back to the topic of this loop—Filipinos have no choice but to OUST Gloria the Evil Bitch! No other recourse but that, and do it fast with even just faith in God maybe!
Cocoy: Breaking the chain of command is a necessity. It happened in ’86 and it happened in ’01 and we never got close to a civil war. the closest we ever got to a civil war was in 1989. Why? because there were people on the streets in the 1st 2 EDSAs and there was none in 89. Our soldiers know that their sworn duty is to protect the people and the constitution and they won’t just fire into their fellow Filipinos, Gen. Esperon’s presence and sadistic urging notwithstanding. Breaking the chain of command is one essential ingredient of People Power and it’s only right that Jun Lozada ask our soldiers to do so. And when they finally decide to do so, we must all be on the streets to defend them.
Amen again, grizzy. Amen!
What a lot many people do not know, PSM, is that a lot many policemen who were doing their duties regardless of who sat there as president were actually put on the Malacanang blacklist and remove from their posts if they were marked as potential threats to the Evil Bitch.
In fact, there were a lot many news reports on how she tried to visit all the police precincts in Manila and reprimanded those policemen who would not remove Erap’s pictures on the wall since she was in fact merely supposed to be just substituting for Erap who was reported to be temporarily incapacitated until proven innocent for something that they still had to prove, whether or not he had relinquished his position to the creep! Ang labo di ba? Pero walang kumikibo.
A cousin in fact opted to get an early retirement because it was useless to continue what he was trying to do with Lacson, the clearing up of salaries paid to policemen suspected of being AWOL and no longer in the service. “Baka mapatay ako o mamatay ako sa kunsumisyon,” he said.
Hopefully, not all of those righteous policemen are still in service and are just waiting for the right moment to take off their badges and join the people.
parasamasap;
Amigo that’s the opinion of Neonate that he posted on my blog and I totally agree with him and I fear that our country will be under military junta,under military junta is an example of Esperon Kangaroo court.We don’t need the military to oust Gloria,we can oust her with the cooperation of majority people and cyber war.In California people rally in the Philippine consulate asking Gloria to resign,If we can keep the pressure we don’t need the uniform personnel.
Finally nkakapasok na uli ako sa comments page!!.. Cgurado kpag mainit n naman at very relevant ang issue, flooded n naman ang site nto.. tsk, tsk, tsk…
Ms. Ellen curious lang ako.. Since pumutok at uminit ang NBN-ZTE ‘bukol’ issue, hindi ko n npansin si Ronaldo Puno?..
I hear a lot that he is the main orchestrator of all what lies, deceits and retractions GMA & her DOGS are doing.. kya b sya wala para mkapag-concentrate sya on how to ‘run’ things during these complicated and very difficult times?.. Nkakapanibago kcng hindi ko sya nkikita sa TV depending his PRESIDENT EVIL…
Why wasn’t the mass presider’s homily message quoted in the article? Well …. I can understand how media can be SELECTIVE to quoting or writing only those that would please them, depending on which side they are!
Uncvlized, sorry, mukhang hindi biro ang conversation. Mukhang totoo. Here’s the link:
http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20080303-122375/The-story-behind-the-AFP-PNP-unity-walk
I’m posting the whole article in a separate thread.
parasamasarap:
It was black & white and the civil society groups who started making a big fuss of Erap being part of the rally.
I agree with you that we should not let the small matters defeat the success of the Interfaith Rally. This is why I am addressing the civil society groups to refrain from causing more intramurals with other groups. As you said, we need everybody at this point.
Magunaw man ang mundo hindi magbibitaw itong si duwendeng itim sa hawak niyang puwesto, kung hindi rin lang siya bibitbitin at sisipain sa tumbong niya palabas ng Palasyo ng Malakanyang, pero maiataboy man siya mula sa Palasyong nasa tabi ng Ilog Pasig, tatakbo lang siya duon sa Cebu, kung saan lagi niyang ipinagyayabang na duon niya ililipat ang Malakanyang kapag kinulili siya talaga ng mga taga-Metro Manila. Sa madaling salita, puwede lamang alisin si gloria sa kanyang mistulang kapit-tukong paghawak sa trono ng kapangyarihan kung pantay na ang kaniyang dalawang paa, iyan ang katotohanang malinaw pa sa tubig na binebenta ng mga water refilling stations.
Spartan;
Long time no see Manong! naka rubber shoes ka pa rin.Hehehe!
May saysay iyang opinion mo sa isang banda ay makikipagpatayan talaga si demonyita para manatili sa trono niya,pag nangyari iyun ay giyera patani na talaga,iyan ang malinaw na galing sa parehong balon na itinitinda.
Cocoy:
No one is talking about the military ousting Gloria, what i’m pointing out is, in order for us, people to oust Gloria we would need the military to break the chain of command. We don’t want a military-initiated uprising, which is the same as a coup. What we need is the support of the military when we finally reach the critical mass in the streets. Those are two different things and i think Lozada was talking about the latter when he made his appeal.
Tita Ellen:
Tama ba yung observation ni Andres about the groups that made a big fuss of Erap’s presence? If so, i would agree with him re. his view of the B&W movement. i just don’t know if they really made that statement and if ever someone from their group did, does that translate to an official line of their group?
andres, parasamasarap,
hindi maitatangging may hatak pa rin si erap subalit para sa akin (hindi sa kinakampihan ko si leah, ayaw ko kay pastor), sapat na ang pagdalo niya (erap) subalit hindi na siya dapat pang nagsalita (o nagtalumpati). tama na ‘yung kumaway na lamang siya sa mga dumalo.
Sa akin naman, maganda na hindi na masyadong pumapel si Erap ngunit nandun na yun. nangyari na at wala naman talagang walkout. Ay okay lang nga kay Cory.
Plus ang ganda ng dating sa pictures: two former presidents together against GMA.
I don’t approve of Leah talking about in on national TV afterwards. She can thresh out her problems with the organizers. Definitely I’m turned off by the lie that Saycon spread about the “walkout”.
I’d like to see the divisions in the opposition as unity in diversity. despite our differences, we have agreed on an immediate common goal: oust Gloria Arroyo.
Once that’s accomplished, let’s kill each other. Saka na yun.
Talaga namang itong mga kasundaluhan natin ay walang political agenda. They just want to facilitate the ousting of the Evil Bitch. Si Evil Bitch lang naman at si asspweron ang gumawa ng istorya na sila General Miranda et al at yung Magdalo ay gusto ng military junta. Nandoon daw yun sa mga documents na nakuha nila sa mga Magdalo. Planted documents siguro.
The military element in ousting the Evil Bitch would be a plus. The CBCP support is also a plus. Without the backing of these two, mahirap matanggal si Evil Bitch.
I hope that the OFWs who are keeping our econmy afloat should really collectively band together to sting the Evil Bitch. Hindi lang tayo mag-remit ng kahit na dalawang linggo, tignan natin kung hindi magbitiw sa pwesto ang itong super kapal ng mukhang Evil Bitch!
Naamoy ko na ang boiling point ng lahat ng ito ay kung papayag ang Supreme Court na magtestigo si Neri without the EO 464.
Agree ako dun sa unity in diversity mo Ellen! I am not an Erap fan but we need Erap and his masa to oust this Evil Bitch! Everyone should set aside their differences because the task on hand needs tremendous PEOPLE SUPPORT! In 2001 the Evil Bitch USED the left, the right and all factions to oust Erap. Erap knows how all the different groups banded together then. His first hand experience in 2001 should be reason enough to factor him in the OUST THE EVIL BITCH MOVEMENT! An eye for an eye! Bilib nga ako kay Erap because he has forgiven almost all those who helped oust him. If Erap who went through a lot could forgive, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for anyone to alienate him. Sila na nga itong umahas kay Erap, sila pa ang galit! What kind of a logic is that! We can not oust the Evil Bitch with an a “kanya-kanya” attitude.
The spurts of activities like mass of 500 people here and there, a vigil of a group of 500 people here and there, a walk by 500 people here and there do not have the same impact as a group of 50000 or more of all different groups na sama sama sa iisang rally! Iba ang dating ng UNITED!
Kaya nga tumatawa lang si Evil Bitch because she sees that the opposition can not unite! If the Evil Bitch was able to eat at the same table with Beltran and Satur just to oust Erap, why can’t the BnW, Erap’s group and all the feuding groups not set aside their differences and collectively put all their efforts on the very tough task of ousting the Evil Bitch! Time is of the essence. Kung hindi natin bibilisan ang pagtanggal kay Evil Bitch, she will outsmart us again!
She has the tongress in her pocket. In 2009 she would have appointed two more Supreme Court justices who will probably vote in favor of the Charter Change. Habang nagaaway away ang mga grupo, tumatakbo ng tumatakbo si Evil Bitch sa finish line. Ano ang mapapala natin? We will be stuck with this Evil Bitch the rest of her life(that of the Evil Bitch)! Yun ba ang gusto natin?
Toney, in our culture, whether we like it or not, the military and the church had always been components of our political evolution. It is too late to change this practice now. As long as the military does not form a junta and they are just the facilitators for the change in the leadership, the Filipino people always tolerated this practice.
We are still a third world country, sad but true. So, we can not adopt the same system as the first world countries where there is a clear separation of the government, military and the church. Historically, the Philippines only had two forms of changing the president, by elections and by People Power backed by the military and the church. We’ve done the latter twice and we survived. Unfortunately our latest choice is rotten to the core! Shall we just watch her continue to destroy our country and its institutions just because we do not want the military and the church to meddle in politics? This is SHEER STUPIDITY!
parasabayan,
hindi naman katakataka kung merong lumabas na mga dokumentong magpapatunay na talagang nag-aklas ang mga nakakulong, mga ebidensiyang punto por punto.
alam na natin na ang isang taong wala na sa katinuan ang utak ay gagawin ang lahat huwag lamang mapahiya at mabigyang katwiran ang lahat ng kanyang kapalpakan.
ganyan si es_PWE-ron, ang walang kuwentang SHIT of staff ng armed forces of the pidals.
The idiots are mind setting Filipinos again that the rallies are useless exercise and that Cory and Arroyo there to symbolize the reconciliation of Filipinos toward unity that they say is impossible. The nerve, especially when the idiots say that it can only be achieved by a criminal but for how much? Nakakasuka talaga.
Ano daw katotohanan ang hinahanap ng mga rallyists and those clamoring for the removal of a criminal? Actually, the truth is already out. They just need to be verified, but for the fact that a lot many in position are involved in the crimes committed by the Midget, who would want the truths revealed so far by the two witnesses verified and they get indicted, too? Of course, wala!
I agree with Ellen, di na dapat nagsalita si Erap, pero di naman niya kasalanan dahil bigya siyang tinawag sa entablado together with Cory. And Ellen’s point of having 2 former Presidents together against the usurper President is very good projection specially internationally.
Let us stop talking about Leah Navarro and specially the garapata Boy Saycon. I just hope they stop talking publicly about the Erap issue, tama si Ellen again, dapat among the organizers na lang pinag-usapan. Ginamit tuloy ito ng administrasyon to the max.
One thing is for sure, tuloy ang laban! Ibagsak ang Tyanak!
Yan si Saycon pala, Trojan Horse at baka pakawala ni Tabako FVR. Ingat tayo, next time you see him in rallies, dapat paalisin na rin siya! Di nating kailangan ng anay!
I heard VP is calling the P to abolish the EO464 on the news.
Mukhang naamoy na ni Noli na malapit ng matumba ang presidente niya kaya dumidistansya. Hindi naman naninindigan para sa katotohanan at hustisya.
Isa siyang oportunista.
mga kasama, huwag ninyong kalilimutan ang noon ko pang sinasabi tungkol kay kabayag, MAYROONG katumbas na halaga ang kanyang mga pagkilos kasama na dito ang pagtatakip at pagtatago sa katotohanan.
uulitin ko, kahit ipagtanong ninyo sa mga taga lumban, laguna kung paano niya itinago ang kinalabasan ng re-count noong sampung taon (humigit kumulang) na ang nakakaraan. at iyan ay kapalit ng nakapaglalaway na halaga mula sa dapat sana’y natalong kandidato.
# rose Says:
March 3rd, 2008 at 10:52 am
Chi: nagsalita na yong Bishop of Bataan..kaya lang malambot pa rin..
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Rose, Burado na sa akin yang si Soc. Nakipag-break na ako sa kanya forever. heheh!
Agree! I like the photo of Cory and Erap together.
Disagree: Lea Navarro taking her dislike of Erap on national television.
Hate: Saycon oportunista, walang kasama na nag-walkout daw! Nagpapansin lang yan.
Love: The gathering of 80,000 in the interfaith rally.
Nasusuka: Every single shot of Gloria!
VP is prepared daw not preparing 🙂 yan ang sagot talaga ng mga sigurista. ngayon he tells the public na kasama sya sa panawagang i-abolish un e0464 to know the truth.
Chi:
I agree with you 100%!!! It was nice seeing persons with different colors together for a common goal of ousting the Evil One! Si Cory naka yellow, si Erap naka red jacket parang catsup at mustard! magkaiba pero masarap pag magkasama diba? Hehe!!!
Si Saycon? Siya ay isang Garapata, period.
The site of the more than 80,000 Filipinos making a stand is awesome!!!
The mere sight of GMA spoils my day! With that natural smirk and arrogant character. Bwisit talaga!!!
Chi/Rose:
Yan si Socrates Villegas, feeling niya artista siya! He is a social climber to the highest level, he loves rubbing elbows with the who’s who in society!
During Sin’s last years, Soc took advantage of his closeness to him. In fact, Soc is the one making the major decisions, as seen was already senile in the latter part. So the main culprit on why the church was instrumental in the infamous Edsa Dos was Bishop Soc Villegas!
Likewise, during the Hello Garci controversy, Bishop Soc was again instrumental in convincing the family of Doble to make sure he will protect GMA by lying in his testimony.
If Archbishop Angel Lagdameo has said that Edsa Dos was a big mistake, I wonder when Bishop Soc would swallow his pride and try to correct his wrongdoings?
Bishop Soc, you have wronged the Filipino people not only once (Edsa Dos) but twice (Hello Garci)!!!
Elle:
“I’d like to see the divisions in the opposition as unity in diversity. despite our differences, we have agreed on an immediate common goal: oust Gloria Arroyo.
Once that’s accomplished, let’s kill each other. Saka na yun.”
Hahahahaha! Tama ka diyan. Palayasin muna, saka na magpasiklaban kung sino ang tunay na bida.
Ano na ba ang nagawa ng BnW nina Boy SayconPatic at Leah Navarro para sa mamamayang Pilipino? Nakatulong na ba sila na mapabuti ang lagay ng mamamayan? O nagpapaistar lang ang grupo nila? Di ko nakakalimutan na kasama sila sa pagbasbas kay Evil Gloria! Sa opinyon ko ay sumasakay lang yang dalawang yan kung saan andun ang mga rallyista. Pwede namang maging succesful ang protesta maski wala ang kabilaning Black&White.
natuto na ang Pinoy ng simpleng katotohanan
HINDI NADADAAN SA EDSA EDSA ANG PAGBABAGO
nakailang edsa na, magnanakaw pa din ang nakapwesto
dadaanin na lang namin sa balota.
ano ba ang meron sa balota at ayaw nang paratingin ng oposisyon ang eleksyon?
takot ba silang matalo?
naniniguro ba sila ng panalo kaya rebolusyon ang gusto nila>?
tama, natuto na ang mga pinoy na huwag pakinggan at pansinin ang mga nagbubulagbulagan, nagbibingibingihan at nagtatangatangahan kaya naman ipinananawagan ang pagpapatalsik sa inang putang gahamang pinagtatakpan ng mga katulad ng mga walang damdaming mahilig manggulo at sumingit sa matinong talakayan!
By the way, nung last election parang puro oppositions din ang nanalo diba ? YAN ang tunay na sigaw ng masa. Pati si Senator Trillanes nga kahit nakakulong nanalo pa eh. Ganun katindi na ang galit ng taong bayan sa ADMIN
ganun pala e. so whats the point na ipinipilit na makaiwas sa due process at daanin sa kalye ang pagtanggal sa pinuno? (gma or noli or kaninuman).
Happy,
Sino ba ang umiiwas sa due process?
Sino ba ang may pakana ng EO 464?
Sino ba ang dahilan ng pagkaka-court martial nina Gen. Gudani at Col. Balutan dahil sa pagsipot nila sa Senado?
Sino ba ang nagpapasak ng pera sa mga tongresista este kongresista para makaiwas sa impeachment?
Ang oposisyon ba? O ang nakaupo sa Malacanang?
Kuya PSM,
Musta na? Napalitan mo na ba iyung cellphone mo?
New anti-Arroyo rally set March 14 ( will be held in UST )
san kaya mga pro-arroyo ????
Maging sa Dagupan City, Pangasinan ay nagkaroon ng pagkilos noong Biyernes.
http://sundaypunch.prepys.com/archives/2008/03/02/5000-join-dagupan-rally/
Wow ang laki ng binigay ni Zubiri 450k each for Bohol mayors