Update: Hearing on confirmation of Martir’s promotion to brigadier general was deferred to January 2008.
Tomorrow, when the Commission on Appointments Defense Committee meets, on the agenda is the promotion of Col. Jonathan Martir to brigadier general.
Friday last week, Malaya’s editorial, “Toadies crawling out of the woodwork” was about Gloria Arroyo’s lapdogs in frenzied competition proving what they can do to be promoted to chief tuta. That’s why we have NCR police chief Geary Barias proudly bragging to reporters how he manhandled Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV and other Magdalo officers after the Manila Peninsula standoff.
And of course, Martir didn’t want to be left behind. Malaya’s editorial said, “Martir pulled a macho stunt at the Pen. He manhandled Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV and some members of the Magdalo group while they were lying face down on the floor with their hands cuffed. Asked by a member of the CA from the House why he did so, Martir answered that Trillanes and his companions “deserved it.”
Who is this Martir? He is known in the military to be very close to AFP chief Hermogenes Esperon.
Sources in the military don’t paint a respectable picture of him. I have been provided documents that he was AWOL (absence without leave) for more than two years and yet when he came back from the United States, he was neither reprimanded nor punished for it.
Available records in the Philippine Navy and the Bureau of Immigration show that his authorized leave number only 195 days. But he was absent from service for 945 days.
A brief on Martir that we got says, “Records bear that Col. Martir left the country on five separate occasions, in 1994, in 1997, in 1998, in 2002 and in 2003, all without the necessary travel orders required by law for military personnel and in violation of the Articles of War (A.W. 62).
“On four separate occasions, he had exceeded his authorized leave – most significant of which was when he exceeded his leave by more than a year or 477 days to be precise, and, yet, the Corps never, in any of the cases,mentioned declared him AWOL or dropped him from the rolls as deserter, much less, have him investigated on his unauthorized absences.”
From comments in my blog of people who know him, one can have an idea of Martir’s character:
Juggernaut, who had interacted with Martir when the latter was a tactical officer, said: “He mostly kept to himself, a very mysterious character. One thing you can’t miss is the way he strikes a pose in uniform in public, almost contrived or choreographed (he still does, funny, old habits never die). The battalion he handled probably had the most gruesome “hazing” cases at the time.
On his manhandling of Trillanes and other Magdalo officers, an officer texted me, “Not surprising, for a wife beater.”
Another Marines officer said, “Let him be assigned to Mindanao. Iiyak yan. He is known to shoot only at target papers. Takot yan sa kalaban who could shoot back at him also. Behind his back, he is the butt of jokes among Marines.”
Another related an incident when Martir had a tiff with another officer from Iloilo. A third officer was trying to appease them but Martir would not be contained. He was really raring for a fight. So the peacemaker left. Left alone to fight the Ilonggo officer, Martir ran away.
One of the detained officers in Camp Capinpin told me that Martir talked to him and offered him a deal in connection with the mutiny case related to the February 2006 alleged plan to withdraw support from the bogus Arroyo presidency. The deal was: Pin down Maj. Gen. Renato Miranda, Col. Ariel Querubin and the other top Marines officers and I’ll dismiss the case against you. The officer declined. He told Martir, “Only rats do that. I’m an officer.”
Many I talked with mentioned about Martir’s “dark streaks.” Maybe some of those might be raised during his confirmation hearing. He will have a chance to deny or clarify them tomorrow.
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Trixie Angeles, lawyer of Capt. Nicanor Faeldon, who is the object of a military manhunt after the Nov. 29 incident, is confused about the conflicting statements of Gloria Arroyo and Esperon.
Angeles said, “Esperon says that Capt. Nicanor Faeldon and other allegedly fugitive members of the November 29 group are not threats.
“Yet, Mrs. Arroyo has been cited as saying (in her Cabinet teleconference from London) that for as long as there are fugitives from the Manila Pen incident, they remain threats to her leadership and the public safety. Malacañang has approved a P1 million peso reward for information leading to his capture. A joint task force has been created with the AFP and PNP joining forces. The Coast Guard has been called in and SouthCom is on the alert for him. It’s a manhunt and the net is spreading wide.”
Angeles said this only indicates that “clearly someone is feeling threatened.
“Perhaps it would be appropriate to call Mr. Esperon to this one fact: Capt. Nicanor Faeldon is no hardened criminal. He is not a murderer nor a rapist nor a kidnapper. Unlike others with bounties on their heads, Capt. Faeldon’s alleged crime is to dissent from this government’s continuing illegitimacy and rampant corruption.
“Yet Malacanang still holds out that one million peso reward. Could it be that they — Mr. Esperon, Mrs. Arroyo, Mr. Razon, et al — believe that telling the truth in times like these, is a dangerously subversive act?”
Col Martir knows that in this evil government, the only way to reach a higher post is to lick the ass of gloria by showing no mercy to those against her and to even act beastly by kicking an “enemy” when he can no longer fight and already downed. That’s the best chance for him to transmit and impress gloria that he also possess the Assperon kind of canine loyalty. Gloria is watching and she needed those kind of beast and so maybe in the not so distant future he will be richly rewarded. That’s the SOP; officers in the military and police get their promotions not because of service to the country and people but due to their personal loyalty and service to evil gloria.
Promotion of col. Martir to BGen is a mockery to the military hierarchy and really a shameful decision.
Military records of col. martir proved that he is not competent to be promoted as BGen., and it will give a wrong signal to other brave and bemedalled military officers still awaiting their promotion.
We need to change the AFP now to Sandatahang Pakapalan ng Mukha ng Pilipinas. Bata-bata system.
Disgraceful general (problem) Asswperon!
We call the ATTENTION of our Honorable Senators not to confirm col. martir for his new promotion, instead assign him to Mindanao so that the abusayaf bandit teach him a lesson to be a good and honest soldier.
REJECT his confirmation!
Hi Floory,
I’m sleepy now but since i’ll try to smell fresh air again in Ellenville, shocking…col. martir is in the front page headline, promotion is a hand…as BGen, yaks another General Problem will be added from the stuff of Asswperon collections.
I need to sleep now because maybe i can not control my temper about this shit news? Let’s our fellow bloggers to express their personal reaction and judgment about this mess.
Another blow in our tainted military establishment.
Wake up ALL junior officers! Protect the AFP and our people from the hands of GMA and traitors Generals.
if and when the appointment of Martir is confirmed dadami at dalawang klase ang mga alaga ng ating Pang gulo daga at baboy..nagkadlaw ako..naglakyo ang balabaw..rats..rats.. rats..oink..oink..oink! Good Grief!
If I may ask taga saan si Martir at natakot sa Bisaya? Seguro ang sinabi ng Ilonggo- abaw tuto.. hinay, hinay lang kay basi mautod ko ang imong (just fill in the words!)
erratum: nag lag yo (and not naglakyo)
in the news Ellen:
Three Marines killed in NPA ambush despite Xmas truce
12/17/2007
Hours after the unilateral Christmas truce declared by President Arroyo took effect Saturday, communist guerrillas waylaid government troops on a marketing chore, killing three Marines on the outskirts of Puerto Princesa City, Palawan Sunday.
comment:
This is more soldiers’ blood in the hands of gloria. When the commander-in-chief declares a unilateral ceasefire for media points, while the enemies are not in agreement, the lives of soldiers are in grave danger. They become sleeping ducks. It’s like disarming the soldiers. What murderous stupidity!!
Jay,
I notice you don’t blame the NPA at all for the murders. Don’t you think they had SOMETHING to do with it, since they pulled the trigger. Besides that is why it is called “unilaterial” ceasefire.
Likewise when Trillanes et al screw up big time, why is it the govt’s fault all of a sudden for protecting “the State and the People”–That by they way is what the Constitution says the Military is supposed to protect.
He doesn’t deserve to be roughed up. He deserves to be put in Muntinglupa and the key thrown away until he grows up and quits being such a cry baby.
The Rat of an Officer is Trillanes himself. He follows in the grand tradition of Angie Reyes, Gringo Honasan and Ferdinand Marcos. The Military is not an NGO. It is definitely a “GO”. Grow up Sonny! We didn’t put you in the Senate to be manipulated by the Left or to make a mockery of the democracy that saved you.
I voted for Trillanes and I support what he did at the Manila Pen that is to rid the country of an illegal and corrupt president.
Rule of law should start with respecting the Constitution. You, yourself, DJB said that Davide was wrong in administering the oath of office to a power grabber.
The people tried all legal means to correct that violation of the Constitution but Gloria committed more violations of the law just to protect her stolen power.
As John F. Kennedy said, “Those who make peaceful change impossible makes violent change inevitable.”
Even that, in the Nov. 29 incident, who was violent? Who fired those stupid shots? Not Trillanes, Lim and company. Who rammed the tank into Manila Pen. Not Trillanes, Lim and company.
Who handcuffed the journalists in blatant violation of their rights to due process? Not Trillanes, Lim and company.
Gloria and her minions!
Ano ka ba naman DJB. Use your intelligence not just to show off that you are intelligent. use that to bring truth and justice to the Filipino people.
DJBrizalist;
I agree that Angie Reyes is a rat and not just a rat but the most famous of them. But you forget or maybe you don’t consider that Gloria is the biggest rat of them all. Add Assperon, Garci, et al and you have a team of the most voracious and insatiable rats led by Gloria of course. Every time she trampled upon the constitution, she is “ratting” on the people. When she cheated her way into the presidency, she also ratted on the people by stealing a mandate that doesn’t belong to her. Every time she steals she becomes a bigger rat.
What I fail to see is how Trillanes be called a rat when what he is fighting is for good government and for the people. He maybe young, impatient, aggressive and with a temper, but calling him a rat just doesn’t fit into his character and personality.
When you are called a rat, you are a traitor, and fighting an abusive corrupt and evil government is not being a traitor. Maybe you called him a rat because he doesn’t toe the line of Gloria. And by the way, the constitution says the military is a protector of the citizenry, but during these dark times the military is acting more as personal bodyguards and protector of Gloria and not for the people. That’s how Gloria “ratted” on the people and the country as a whole.
I hope somebody can sneak in a rat poison so that all the cheating, lying, stealing, killing and all the mess she created be put to and end.
Jonathan Martir, pasarap lang sa buhay ang alam ng super tuta na ito.
Wow, sobrang lakas niya kay Asspweron, palaging AWOL ay for promotion pa. Ano kaya ang ipinakain niya kay Ass?
Gago, tanga at hudas ang sinumang senador na papayag ma-promote ang abusadong dagang Martir na ito. We are looking at you, Senators.
Another professional wit wrestler in the blogosphere! DJB you are the ultimate blog warrior! You win in all debates! You’re the best!
Now that we have that out of the way, lets get back to the business of acting on the realities on the ground…
Basically, a “rat” is someone who sells out his comrades, or in academy parlance “SQUEELS.” In this case, we have someone who “squeeled” on his mistah, his underclassmen, and even his commanding officer – for what? A promotion? Don’t forget cash reward! If you look at Martir’s backgound, everyone in his family is comfortably relocated in the US of A already. He’s had extended mysterious junkets in the US before but the government is willing to close their eyes on this – why? Another Tabako being groomed?
DJB,
Careful, calling Sen. Trillnes names may well work against your defense of Gloria’s regime, those in the military who are sympathetic to the senator’s cause but not his method may well be moved to action because of people like you.
DJB,
On second thought, go ahead, make as many comments as you like so I can have a lot of material to cut and paste and send to our soldiers/officers! This is also good reading material for the cadets in the academy. Using an old slang “GO AHEAD, KNOCK YOUR HEAD!”
Golden Rule:
“Never try to teach a pig to acquire knowledge on the rules of logic, it wastes your time and annoys the pig”.
WWNL;
Under the code of Kalantiaw,Martir will get his star.
In Toyang country, the immoral, the ignorant, the cheats and the lowlife have been put in high aparador office. What is most saddening and sickening is that in Pidalism state there is no shortage of Garci’s general with low moral values. There are plenty of them all around clinging on Toyang’s saya at pati sa panty at bra. As a result,the brain-dead moron rule the day. Idiots rule under Kalantiaw code which states that an act for sexual ignorance, espousal abuse with jealousy, torn to pieces with chain-saw and thrown to crocodile. There’s a tuition for sex education per session The husband should be understanding if there’s another man in the house; he’s probably just helping the wife with an educational demonstration of doggy, sixty-nine or missionary style.
For picking your nose at the law in San Miguel marlboro country commiting double child homicide and adultery, I guess raping young girl also was okey because Toyang used the Kalantiaw’ code to pardon Jalosjos. Here’s a tip: Don’t try to steal the number Tho,just do it! Or just go for the White Lady instead,and have sexual arousement with the ghost so that you won’t get burned. See: Law #8. Toyang’s apostles of thieves unanimously agreed that kalantiaw is a good law because anyone who tried to enforce the other seventeen laws would probably fail due to their insanity and self-contradictory nature being imbecile.
Sa military kapag gusto nila ng promotion ay kailangan kumapit sa mga pulitoko lalo na sa pangulo,kapag nakadikit sila ay ayos ang buto-buto.Maaalis man sa puwesto iyang mga pulitiko ay nasa serbisyo pa rin sila hannga hindi pa nila inabot ang mandatory retirement.Magalit kayo kay Martir ano ang kasalanan niya,natural gagawin niya ang trabaho niya.Ang may kasalanan ay ang taong bayan na bumoto sa mga mayor,gobernador,kongressman,senator at lalong lalo na sa presidenti dahil kapag nakabakante ng mga hukom sa supreme court siya ang mamimili ng kapalit.Ang Pangulo rin ang mamimili ng kanyang military chief-of- staff.
Si Mac Arthur sina Quezon at Osmena ang binata niya at hindi si Marcos kaya bumili si Apo ng mga medalya at mga dukomento sa Abinida.Bata-bata system iyan sa military aminin man natin o hindi.Hindi lang sa Pinas ang ganyan kundi lahat ng bansa.Ganito ang halimbawa niyan,ang mga kumander ay namimili ng mga tauhan na loyal sa kanya,ganyan lang ka-simple.Kahit na ako ay hindi ako mangunguha ng tauhan ko kung hindi sila loyal sa akin,itatapon ko sila sa ibang command kung sino ang may gusto,kaya mahina ang promosyon ng mga iyun dahil inayawan ng kumander.
Martir ang apelyido ni soon-to-be Bgen. Bagay sa kanya. Gawin na siyang martir!
Langisan na ang garrote!
Or better yet, use rat poison.
when Martir kicked Trillanes , he just kicked 11M filipino voters that voted for Trillanes. If this 11M filipino where to kick Martir kaya, he’d fly back to United States. In Ilongo, “malagyo”.
Sa AFP, ang mga nagpatapangtapangan ay iyung mga opisyales na hindi naka amoy ng pulbura, putik, pawis at dugo sa pakikipagdirigma . Sila yung mga opisyal na lumalaki sa opisina at hindi naintindihan ang buhay at pinagdaanan ng ordinaryong sundalo. Sila ay iyung may makitid ang pag uunawa.
Tingnan natin si mister esperon, mesa, tolentino, martir atbp…mga notorious hane?
Ang nakakatuwa sa mga eto, karamihan sa kanila ay takot sa asawa. Ang iba naman ay nambubugbog ng asawa.
Ilang henerasyon pa kaya ang lilipas at magkaroon ng heneral ang afp na kagaya ni general lim at ng junior officers na kagaya ni trillanes et al?
DJBRizalist,
Seems that your mindset was left behind in the Cold War era. Ganyan ba kalakas ang mga maka-kaliwa? o sadyang incompetent lang ang gobyerno sa pagsugpo ng problema sa lipunan?
Lubhang kahiya hiya kung mabigyan itong kumag na ungas na ito ng isang Estrella sa balikat. Tama yung sabi nung isa, bagay sa kanya ang apelyidong Martir.
Isang Martir na nakakahiya sa ipakilala sa mga tao. Isang Martir na nakakahiyang mamuno ng hukbo. Isang Martir na patron ng mga kahiya hiya sa ating lipunan.
with these kind of officers we have at present in the AFP and PNP, there is nothing to be expected but brutality and manhandling of anyone who raises his/her arms in denouncing the evil woman in malakanyang.
idagdag pa natin na may ilang ang agenda sa bahay na ito ay upang manggulo at hindi gustong tanggalin ang mukha sa pagkakasubsob sa puwet ni gloria upang makita at maamoy ang umaalingasaw na kabulukang para sa kanila ay samyo ni sampaguita!
“…..karamihan sa kanila ay takot sa asawa.”
he he he heeeeh!
spy, naalala ko tuloy ‘yung isang naging army commander noong siya ay unang kamote pa lamang. nakasabay ko pagbalik sa zamboanga city bago tumuloy sa jolo, sulu mula sa aming R & R, todo ingat sa pagdadala ng blender na order ng esmi niya dahil baka daw magasgas ay eskrimahin siya ng walis tambo.
nang maging heneral ay hindi ko akalaing lumobo ng ganun ang katawan dahil nu’ng kasama ko pa sa division headquarters kung saan siya ang CO ng 1st supply service co ay laging exercised ang katawan dahil wala namang trabaho kundi magtenis at basketbol. ilan sila noong mga laki sa layaw na hindi nakaranas ma-assign sa frontline.
at, tama ka ANG TATAPANG NILA!
mga notoryus sa mga tunay na kawal na produkto ng hindi mabilang na labanan!
“We didn’t put you in the Senate to be manipulated by the Left or to make a mockery of the democracy that saved you.”
what have you in your coconut?
did you vote for AT4? maybe not. because if you voted for him, you firmly believe his crusade. you will try to, understand and analyze the reason why they walked out of the court, went to the manila pen and called for the resignation of your much loved fake president!
man, have your dipped face distance a little from gloria’s ass, you might see and smell her stinking rot!
Kawawang Pilipinas madadagdagan na naman ang salot sa ating lipunan. Madadagdagan na naman ang tuta ng pekeng pangulo natin na nagmamanipula para manatili sya sa pwesto. Kawawang pamanikin at kaibigan ko na miyembro ng AFP…
bocoborizalist
NPA is garbage to me. read my postings since last
year of what I think of joma and his NPA. For more than 20
years now they can not seem to do right. Why pick
on and kill privates, even non-combatant soldiers?
Bloggers had beeen asking and waiting, why can’t
the NPA kill the real enemies of the people?
Read the fine prints on Maximillian Robespierre.
The Philippines need one like him, so one like DJB
Saves us from our constitution or what ever can be
send to the guillotine. It is not you DJB or your
person, it is how you grew up and your love of
what is right for the rich and the priveleged. Your
ideology of self preservation is not better, no
different than the communist ideology of heroic
sacrifices for the poor.
Robespierre was himself guillotined but he ignited
the French Revolution and commanded the extermination
of thousands of bad Frenchmen. His tyranny was short
lived, but he terminated people masquerading as angels.
The Philippines now need a Robespierre even if only
for a year so people the likes of good christians and
upholders of the perversed rule of law can be
terminated. I am a lone man Mr. Bocobo, I have no brother or relatives in the military or the NPA. Not a single stolen centavo flows in my vein. If Trillanes IV can be a Robespierre so be it. Mock him to high heavens.
Was it a case of government protecting “the State and the People”? Or, was it a case of the government protecting itself from its very own people?
Sadly, I see a government whose ideals and aspirations are so detached from those of the people it is tasked, not merely to represent but, more so, to embody. I would be very happy if I were alone in seeing the government this way.
Ms Ellen:
The littleist sneaky rat, how rich has she become, after she forced herself into the People’s House, uninvited? Will you be kind enough to us provide us, what Gloria and Miguel Arroyo are worth at present? If it’s not too much trouble for you, I was wondering if you’ve in your archives and if you can easily put your fingers on their personal assets without so much trouble. Can you also provide us all the real estates both owned in the Philippines and overseas. I heard they’ve real estate properties in San Francisco. How many bank accounts, including Iggy’s Jose Pidal, German bank accounts, et al. I understand, it’s in the impossibility to locate where they hide their stolen loots, perhaps we will never know in our life time. Aren’t all govt officials are obligated by law to file each year all their assets and how much they’re worth to the ethic committee? It would be great also, to find out how much whore Gloria was worth before she illegaly stole the Whore House (formerly Malacanang Palace)… I was in a heated exchanges with some friends about whore Gloria the most corrupt President, I was asked to define how whore Gloria got rich while in the whore house. Do you’ve hard evidences, I can use? It will be much appreciated. Maraming salamat!
Rat? Is there a bigger rat than Gloria Arroyo who ratted on Kapinuyan, not once but twice?! Wala na nga, wala!
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Death anniversary ngayon ng aking President FPJ!
balweg,
sleep well but don’t forget to unload your temper. keep the rat away from your thoughts or you may have the worst nightmare of your lifetime.
“Yet, Mrs. Arroyo has been cited as saying (in her Cabinet teleconference from London) that for as long as there are fugitives from the Manila Pen incident, they remain threats to her leadership and the public safety.”
fugitives from the Manila Pen incident threat to gloria’s corrupt leadership? YES! but not to public safety.
safety of anyone is more in danger in the hands of her goons but not with men of honor like capt faeldon!
Magandang gabi mga kapatid,
I paid a visit to some friends in Crame this afternoon and heard that the senator and general are in good hands. The brothers of the long gray line in the police are making sure they are treated well. Their thoughts are the same, the senator should have been allowed to function as a full senator, GMA should honor the voice of the 11M who voted for him and 11M is no joke. Though most sympathized with his cause (our cause), they do not agree with the method.
Dean,
“We didn’t put you in the Senate to be manipulated by the Left or to make a mockery of the democracy that saved you.”
Did you vote for Trillanes? I remember, you were sooo against him running in the senate.
If you didn’t vote for him, you don’t have the right to even include yourself in the “we” as one of the 11 million plus pinoys who made him senator.
If you did, then your comment above makes a mockery of yourself.
chi,
I believe some people (dean included) think of themselves as above everyone else, the ultimate intellectuals, they won’t stoop to our level and vote, or care about the country, or the Filipino people in general. All these are just an exercise of witty, intellectual interchanges where they beat their chest and yell “I won, he won!” King – kong style.
Thanks, juggernaut.
So what’s the method prefer by the “brothers”, do they have another method in mind to kick the butt of this s**&^t!
O, juggernaut…never mind my ???. Baka they would be monitored by the Ass!
We’ll have to trust in the bonds of brotherhood at least we’re sure that these people will be taken cared of properly.
For me, whats important is that Sen. Trillanes and Gen. Lim still have the respect of their peers, our prayers and continued support are much appreciated.
I asked if I could visit the good sen. but I needed to have approval from AFP Headquarters to do so, well, try ko ulit next week…
I found out some bad news also, my foster father is a very close friend of Mr. Pidal. I will be seeing him sometime next month on his birthday, Mr. Pidal will be there of course, I will go, its my first time to meet him face to face, hope I can squeeze in some questions.
juggernaut,
I’ll be looking forward to the result of your kakulitan.
Oh yes, the most important for now is the news that they are taken cared of by their “brothers” inside.
Let’s watch the flow of events for now. Am sure, Gloria is not forever…she’ll die alone watching Sen. Sonny and the other Men of Honor making good headlines as they and fellow pinoys fighting their best to give Pinas what it truly deserves as Perlas ng Silangan.
Ingat ka lang, juggernaut. Pidal’s aura may blind you, heheh!
DJB,
So, what do you do when LEGAL means, like impeachment, has been many times manipulately thwarted by the syndicate of Gloria? And what is wrong in fighting against an abusive, most corrupt, heartless, manipulative government which is not even a legal one? So, unlike many of us here in Ellenville, maybe you are one of those who wanted to be fooled by Gloria! Peace!
At least Trillanes, Gen Lim and company has the guts to really stand up for what they are fighting for!!! And they are doing the fighting for the oppressed and abused Filipinos by these greedy and corrupt officials who live fantastic lifestyles using government money.
And they are doing the fighting for the oppressed and abused Filipinos by these greedy and corrupt officials who live fantastic lifestyles using government money…while the ‘common tao’ ssooooooooooo desperately try to survive everyday with their MEAGER and sometimes uncertain incomes.
hello luzviminda,
I hear you’re a fellow marketing professional? Anyway, try visiting this website, its very good reading material and very relevant to our situation.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0503e.asp
Hi DJBRIZALIST,
I am respecting your point of view as being a broad-minded and respectful Pinoy.
Your Honor, I would like to clarify from you about a disgusting comment about our Hon. AT4? Do you know that He is an young idealist and brave soldier? He did not violate any laws in our country, but instead he wanted to air his grievances and disappointment in our present leadership.
He has a guts to put it in reality rather than to talk endlessly without concrete result in all our grievances and frustrations in the present policatal crisis and bickering in our country.
AT4 is not a rat of an Officer like the one you mentioned, he really loves our country most, and he don’t mind if his life will be the sacrificed for the removal of illigitimate President you admired and supported till now.
His aimed is to save our country from the hands of corrupt Arroyo regime and cohorts, and ofcourse he wished to have a thru democratic form of government and peaceful society.
But, maybe like you and other Kababayan still fantasizing GMA about her strong leadership and ambition to put our country in line of G-8. This only a dream and 100% till 2010, she can not do any progress in our country unless she will stepdown ASAP.
Already proven her legacy to govern our country for almost 7-years now, and not good result and direction at all. She is inept president. She trampled our Constitution and what else?
Well, who mocking the democracy in our land? NOT AT4 but GMA, cabals of Generals, TRAPO, TABAKO, Civil society (not all of them) and her cohorts.
when col martir manhandled sen trillanes he was trying to show that he is of the fold with mr HERmogenes Assperon. we are calling of the honorable senators to reject his appointment to bgen.
Hi Luzviminda/Juggernaut,
We need to keep our temper high and to strengthen our camaraderie in order to help our fellows Kababayan to understand and to know the truth of GMA regime.
Imagine, more than 7-years now that GMA is in power but really still some of our Kababayan blindly and unwillingness to give up their support to GMA governance.
Her unfruitful and unholy alliance to TABAKO, TRAPO, elitists, civil sociey and cabals of General (problems)give us a lot of headache and problems. Divisions and bickering of our people already reaching the four corners of our land.
She is a famous power grabber and hardheaded chief executive in our Land.
DJBRIZALIST, what made you conclude that Sen. Trillanes sided with the left? Is it his fault if the Left is sympathetic to him? They have a common enemy in the person of this fake president. The truth of the matter is, the Edsa One and Two forces that ousted Marcos and Erap also conspired with the Left. The Left is always willing to work with any group to bring down the government. Kahit anong gobyerno at sino ang pinuno, patuloy na gumagawa ng hakbang ang mga Kaliwa na ibagsak ang pamahalaan. They are fighting for ideology and not necessarily for the good of the country. In the case of Trillanes and his group, ang karamihang mamamayan at buong bansa ang ipinaglalaban nila.
Juggernaut,
While the brothers of the long gray line protect AT4 and Gen. DL, who will protect Cpt. Faeldon? He is not a PMAyer and he is in the most dangerous position of all — out there somewhere.
For ellenville’s reading pleasure.
But M T Cicero should have spoken about
A head traitor:
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman, 106 BC-43 BC)
Thanks juggernaut, I was already browsing your site earlier. I’ll read the articles later.
Ellen,
Thanks for re-formatting my post.
What has Jonathan Martir done for the Marine Corps? Practically all of the Philippine Marines’ technical innovations were initiated by him. Among other things, he standardized the design of armored gun trucks for convoy protection, designed the Marine Corps Scout Sniper Rifle, built the silenced special operations version of the M3 submachine gun, developed the Night Fighting Weapons System, brought back to life the Corps’ LVTH6 vehicles which are the largest and most powerful armored vehicles we have, implemented weapon and mobility upgrades for the armored vehicle fleet, resuscitated those amphibious trucks that are used in disaster relief, put together the only functioning anti-aircraft assets of the AFP, recovered from the scrap yard and rehabilitated derelict artillery pieces and other armored vehicles, all at low cost and resulting in substantial savings to the government. That’s him. Instead of whining about his men not having proper equipment and blaming someone else, he does something about it.
It is unfortunate that people can be so gullible as to fall for an obvious smear campaign. People here don’t seem to want to know the facts and accusers here don’t have the balls to man-up and say their claims face-to-face.
Juggernaut, it’s good to know that “The brothers of the long gray line in the police are making sure they are treated well.”
But the bond among “brothers” is that strong, how do you explain the mandhandling of that thug Barias and Martir of the senator?
Also when, a member of SAF pulled out Gen. Lim from our pack as we were going down from the Rizal room on the second floor to the lobby of the Manila Pen, the guy twisted Gen. Lim’s arms prompting Lt(sg) James Layug (he is a SWAG) to react, “Tarantado ka, heneral yan.”
Brownberry,
You are right, Sonny is not siding with the Left, but it so happened that they have common enemy, Gloria and her syndicate, as what the enemy of the people also. I think it is not only the Left who believes in what Trillanes is fighting for but also the Middle and the Right. The people are just waiting for the right moment. Maybe when they see that all these forces starts to really make a coordinated move. And Gloria knows that. That is why laging overkill ang mga kilos dahil they are nervous wreck! The boat is really rocking, and rocking hard!
mohan,
I won’t be surprised if you lifted that verbatim from “Defenders…” Fact of the matter is the clunky equipment you mentioned are only good for “show,” you know, the ones you use to make people believe you know a bit of “science.” These are not replicable, its doubtful that they will last, and these achievements have been apparently rushed for a certain event, much like Marcos’ medals before.
“We need to keep our temper high and to strengthen our camaraderie in order to help our fellows Kababayan to understand and to know the truth of GMA regime.”
balweg,
Hanggang hindi nabibigyan ng parusa ang mga kasalanan ni Gloria sa bayan ay hindi tayo titigil. Gloria’s name and governance is already a BLOT in our history. Actually the DARKEST part of our history after the war!
mohan,
Tell that to the marines!
# klingon Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Juggernaut,
While the brothers of the long gray line protect AT4 and Gen. DL, who will protect Cpt. Faeldon? He is not a PMAyer and he is in the most dangerous position of all — out there somewhere.
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Capt. Nick, don’t come out in the open, saka na lang pag talsik na or patay na ang unano. We need you out there.
Ellen,
“Also when, a member of SAF pulled out Gen. Lim from our pack as we were going down from the Rizal room on the second floor to the lobby of the Manila Pen, the guy twisted Gen. Lim’s arms prompting Lt(sg) James Layug (he is a SWAG) to react, “Tarantado ka, heneral yan.””
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That guy who twisted the arm of Gen. Lim, can someone identify this animal? Ipapapatay ko lang!
Bistado pala si mohan! cut n’ paste mo na lang!
Jug, look it up if you want. I spent a little more time in my office than I’d like typing that. Do you want my pictures of the hardware to go with that? I can oblige you. 🙂
“These are not replicable, its doubtful that they will last,” – jug
— If so then that is unfortunate. It’s sad that even something so basic as keeping military equipment in serviceable condition is something personality-driven and not something the institution can deal with on its own, without someone willing it to happen. You’re saying Martir can do it, but you doubt if others can. Well, speaking of longevity, it’s been two years now for the LVTs and counting, they’ll actually be adding more. The V150s with their new engines will last a long while, they just got the upgrades a year ago. Say, another 10-15 years? The armored ambulances and the mortar carrier made from salvaged old hulls are on the way (one is already operational), with proper care those will last. The sniper rifles have been very effective force multipliers, not to mention cost-efficient. When those wear out the Corps is now aware of what they can do and will want to retain that capability. Thank Martir for reviving the sniper program.
Since you admit that what he did can’t really be replicated, I guess you are admitting that he’s really a credit to the Corps, since apparently no one else has done what he did and you doubt if anyone else coming after him can do the same.
If BGEN Martir’s confirmation makes a mockery of the military, what do you call mutineers who not only get away scott free, but also get promoted to general. What do you make of BGEN Lim? (This is was not his first act of disturbance after all).
With regard to kicking Trillanes being tantamount to his kicking 11 million votes — what about the millions of others who didn’t vote for Trillanes, but whose country got caught up in his brain fart? BGEN Martir was kicking this megalomanic’s rear-end on THEIR behalf.
Hi Mohan,
Col. J. Martir is a nice family name and we Masang Pinoy were suddenly shocked about his involvement with Gen. Barrias. I taught that the marine corps are the best and idealistic soldiers that who will depend and fight for the Constitution; i mean, they are the depender of our people.
But still i do believe that the whole marine corps are still intact and with the people, except to col. JM who betrayed their longstanding patriotism to the constitution and the best fighting forces in our AFP machinery.
A new promising BGen. in the Marine Corps, a MAKAPILI soldier and a new member of Gen. Asswperon cabala of Generals.
Mohan – “Since you admit that what he did can’t really be replicated, I guess you are admitting that he’s really a credit to the Corps, since apparently no one else has done what he did and you doubt if anyone else coming after him can do the same.”
Yup. The interesting thing about the BGEN Martir is that his achievements and good works are actually having a ripple effect. Even the Philippine Army is starting to think about how it can replicate what the Marines have been doing.
At first, they thought that Martir’s men recieved an influx of funds. Not so — they just used their heads and did their jobs.
The navy initially thought that it would cost millions to revive the LVTH. Martir did it in less than a 100K, and brought teeth back to the CSSB.
A bunch of Oto Melara 105mm pack howitzers were due to be returned to GHQ AFP because they had been declared “beyond economical repair”. The general didn’t buy this story and went to the navy warehouse. Lo and behold, there were enough spares and parts there to put an entire howitzer package together — it just so happens that the AFP’s record keeping was so shoddy, no one knew it was there.
Now . . . the Army is starting to think in terms that Martir started.
Hi Zaruk,
RE: What do you make of BGEN Lim?
Preview of Gen. Lim, a true idealist and nationalist soldier. A promising future leader of our country.
1) A 1978 graduate of the West Point military academy in the United States.
2)He led the elite Scout Rangers, who were at the frontlines of campaigns against communist guerrillas and Muslim separatists. He later commanded the 42nd Infantry Battalion where he again made a name for himself for the various combat accomplishments of his unit. He also endeared himself to the Bicolanos in Camarines Sur where his battalion was based.
3)He then became deputy commander of the First Scout Ranger Regiment and later regiment commander.
4)Bemedalled chief of the 1st Scout Ranger Regiment.
Source: ABS_CBN News Online
Special Features (as of 11/29/2007 1:53 PM)
Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim declaration on withdrawal of support
Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim declaration on withdrawal of support to GMA.
We, the Officers and Members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine National Police, loyal to God and country and to our duty under the Constitution, do hereby make the following declaration:
A crisis of extreme proportions now confronts our people. The economy, the rule of law and the moral order lie in ruins. Political, judicial and economic power, as well as the power of the mass media, has been perverted to inflict and justify high crimes against the Filipino people. More and more among our people no longer eat, while the idle rich and the corrupt live like kings. Minority rule has replaced majority rule. The three branches of government are now in total disarray, the entire system has broken down, thanks to a President whose legitimacy is denied by the vast majority of our people.
Corruption has not only become a way of life among those in power. It has also become the most effective means of destroying our country and people. Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo has played a key role in promoting corruption to its present levels. In her mad desire for power, she has corrupted and destroyed all institutions. She has promoted a policy of loot and plunder while hypocritically announcing a war against corruption.
She has corrupted the justices of the Supreme Court, the entire Commission on Elections, the mass media, some members of the military, the police and the clergy, and countless teachers who took part in counting the votes in the last elections. She is not only the most corrupt official in the country today. She is also its No. 1 corruptor.
We cannot stand idly by while the rule of law, the moral order, the integrity of our institutions, the very future of our country and the people, and our own professional careers are destroyed by this bogus President. We cannot afford to do nothing while she and her cohorts turn our government into a criminal syndicate. We cannot allow ourselves to be used as a tool of injustice and oppression. We must act, and we must act now.
Pursuant, therefore, to our constitutional duty as “protector of the people and the state,” we have today withdrawn our support from Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, in order to end her unconstitutional and illegal occupation of the Presidency.
This we have done to restore the rule of law and public morality, the legitimacy and accountability of government, the integrity of our public institutions, the sanctity of the democratic process, and the trust and confidence of our people and the rest of the world.
We call on all our comrades-in-arms to discharge their genuine responsibilities to our people with full dedication and fervor. We call on our people to support the men and women at the forefront of this undertaking. We call on Mrs. Arroyo to accept gracefully the formation of a new government.
As soldiers, we do not seek political power for ourselves. But we shall not allow anyone to use political power to commit crimes against our people or to pursue their own personal agenda, at the expense of the national interest. We shall maintain law and order, prevent any group from taking advantage of the situation, and protect the innocent from all possible harm. We shall leave the actual business of governing the nation in the hands of professionally competent, morally upright, patriotic, trustworthy and self-sacrificing Filipinos whom we now invite to form a new government.
This may be our last chance to correct our past mistakes. We cannot afford to fail. We must not fail.
We appeal to everyone to give this effort a chance to succeed. We appeal to all our people to unite and extend all the support and counsel which the new government will need from them. We pray to Almighty God to bless our efforts and keep us pure and strong in this hour of need.
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim
Regiment Commander
First Scout Ranger Regiment
balweg Says: Hi Mohan, Col. J. Martir is a nice family name and we Masang Pinoy were suddenly shocked about his involvement with Gen. Barrias. I taught that the marine corps are the best and idealistic soldiers that who will depend and fight for the Constitution; i mean, they are the depender of our people.
—— Hi Balweg, what would you define as defending the Constitution? Toppling the government?
mohan,
Yaps, by means of declaration on withdrawal of support to GMA regime.
i meant it, defending the Constitution against the illegitimate Arroyo goverment.
This illegitimate gov’t violated the sanctity of our Constitution not once but twice.
The actions of AT4/Gen. Lim and co. last Oakwood siege and PEN standoff were purely justified according to the Constitution with Art. III, sec. 4, “No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peacebly to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.”
In reference to Gen. Lim’s statement:
Special Features (as of 11/29/2007 1:53 PM)
Source: ABS_CBN News Online
Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim declaration on withdrawal of support
We, the Officers and Members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine National Police, loyal to God and country and to our duty under the Constitution, do hereby make the following declaration:
A crisis of extreme proportions now confronts our people. The economy, the rule of law and the moral order lie in ruins. Political, judicial and economic power, as well as the power of the mass media, has been perverted to inflict and justify high crimes against the Filipino people. More and more among our people no longer eat, while the idle rich and the corrupt live like kings. Minority rule has replaced majority rule. The three branches of government are now in total disarray, the entire system has broken down, thanks to a President whose legitimacy is denied by the vast majority of our people.
Corruption has not only become a way of life among those in power. It has also become the most effective means of destroying our country and people. Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo has played a key role in promoting corruption to its present levels. In her mad desire for power, she has corrupted and destroyed all institutions.
She has promoted a policy of loot and plunder while hypocritically announcing a war against corruption.She has corrupted the justices of the Supreme Court, the entire Commission on Elections, the mass media, some members of the military, the police and the clergy, and countless teachers who took part in counting the votes in the last elections. She is not only the most corrupt official in the country today. She is also its No. 1 corruptor.
We cannot stand idly by while the rule of law, the moral order, the integrity of our institutions, the very future of our country and the people, and our own professional careers are destroyed by this bogus President. We cannot afford to do nothing while she and her cohorts turn our government into a criminal syndicate. We cannot allow ourselves to be used as a tool of injustice and oppression. We must act, and we must act now.
Pursuant, therefore, to our constitutional duty as “protector of the people and the state,” we have today withdrawn our support from Mrs. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, in order to end her unconstitutional and illegal occupation of the Presidency.This we have done to restore the rule of law and public morality, the legitimacy and accountability of government, the integrity of our public institutions, the sanctity of the democratic process, and the trust and confidence of our people and the rest of the world.We call on all our comrades-in-arms to discharge their genuine responsibilities to our people with full dedication and fervor. We call on our people to support the men and women at the forefront of this undertaking. We call on Mrs. Arroyo to accept gracefully the formation of a new government.As soldiers, we do not seek political power for ourselves. But we shall not allow anyone to use political power to commit crimes against our people or to pursue their own personal agenda, at the expense of the national interest. We shall maintain law and order, prevent any group from taking advantage of the situation, and protect the innocent from all possible harm. We shall leave the actual business of governing the nation in the hands of professionally competent, morally upright, patriotic, trustworthy and self-sacrificing Filipinos whom we now invite to form a new government.
This may be our last chance to correct our past mistakes. We cannot afford to fail. We must not fail.We appeal to everyone to give this effort a chance to succeed. We appeal to all our people to unite and extend all the support and counsel which the new government will need from them. We pray to Almighty God to bless our efforts and keep us pure and strong in this hour of need.
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim
Regiment CommanderFirst Scout Ranger Regiment
From balweg – “1) A 1978 graduate of the West Point military academy in the United States.
2)He led the elite Scout Rangers, who were at the frontlines of campaigns against communist guerrillas and Muslim separatists. He later commanded the 42nd Infantry Battalion where he again made a name for himself for the various combat accomplishments of his unit. He also endeared himself to the Bicolanos in Camarines Sur where his battalion was based.
3)He then became deputy commander of the First Scout Ranger Regiment and later regiment commander.
4)Bemedalled chief of the 1st Scout Ranger Regiment.”
No doubt that BGEN Lim was a very promising leader. Nevertheless, the fact remains that he has been involved in mutinous acts on a number of occasions. Despite that fact, he managed to become a general. That would be unheard of in other countries that truly follow the rule of law.
Your document merely focuses on recent events. You seem to have forgotten that BGEN Lim was also involved in the 1989 coup. The Manila Penn incident simply shows that Lim has a long history of not following the chain of command. Despite that fact, his behavior was tolerated — and was allowed to repeat his past deeds.
If there is any act that puts the Philippine military in a bad light, it is the fact that this man was allowed to get away with mutiny. Of what value is the chain of command if violators can get away with just push-ups?
What military promotes people who can easily forget their oaths?
That’s the kind of disgrace that would drive people to re-think their careers.
mohan Says:
“What has Jonathan Martir done for the Marine Corps? Practically all of the Philippine Marines’ technical innovations were initiated by him. Among other things, he standardized the design of armored gun trucks for convoy protection, designed the Marine Corps Scout Sniper Rifle, built the silenced special operations version of the M3 submachine gun, developed the Night Fighting Weapons System, brought back to life the Corps’ LVTH6 vehicles which are the largest and most powerful armored vehicles we have, implemented weapon and mobility upgrades for the armored vehicle fleet, resuscitated those amphibious trucks that are used in disaster relief, put together the only functioning anti-aircraft assets of the AFP, recovered from the scrap yard and rehabilitated derelict artillery pieces and other armored vehicles, all at low cost and resulting in substantial savings to the government.
Big deal! I once had a subordinate who was a college dropout, he tinkers with electronics, mechanicals, hydraulics so I promoted him to maintenance foreman and hired people to support him. Within 4 months he had restored 80% of previously unserviceable equipment and designed a maintenance program that stayed on until the present. I even had him and his group trained in Japan for our Computer-controlled machines (semi-robots). Saved the company millions. I didn’t even have to promote him to a position anywhere near a BGen.’s (in terms of private enterprise ranking) because he knows his men are as capable as he is.
What I’m saying is, if you’re confirming that Martir is all we have, then God help our AFP! It’s shameful that you even consider those achievements meritorious.
The organization’s long history of failures in maintenance has always been blamed on lack of funds but since you have generals who steal your budget and live the lifestyles of the rich and famous, and you do nothing (or maybe just wait for your turn), you only have yourselves to blame.
The union president in my company would immediately call our attention once signs of backsliding appear. We kick out our under- and non-performing managers without hesitation.
We don’t give undue credit when someone does the job he IS expected to do in the first place.
The way you guys think is unbelievable!
Zaruk says:
“If BGEN Martir’s confirmation makes a mockery of the military, what do you call mutineers who not only get away scott free, but also get promoted to general.”
If you’re talking about Gringo Honasan and the RAM; Gloria and Mike Arroyo, Angelo Reyes and his ilk, you can call it also “legal precedence”.
Zaruk says:
“A bunch of Oto Melara 105mm pack howitzers were due to be returned to GHQ AFP because they had been declared “beyond economical repair”. The general didn’t buy this story and went to the navy warehouse. Lo and behold, there were enough spares and parts there to put an entire howitzer package together — it just so happens that the AFP’s record keeping was so shoddy, no one knew it was there.”
Enough already! This just highlights the incompetence of our AFP. Any clerk fresh out of college could do the job of Inventory Control for LogCom – or whatever office is in charge – and it would save us taxpayers a lot of money.
Sheesh.
Tongue-twisted says:
“We don’t give undue credit when someone does the job he IS expected to do in the first place.
The way you guys think is unbelievable!”
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This statement simply goes to show how out of touch you really are with the current state of the military. The AFP desperately needs men like BGEN Martir — you have no idea just how desperately.
Tongue-twisted says:
“If you’re talking about Gringo Honasan and the RAM; . . . you can call it also “legal precedence”.”
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If that were the case, then promoting an honorable man, who truly does his job and then some, is quite simply the right thing to do.
May BGEN Martir’s promotion proceed smoothly, and may his tribe increase in number and influence.
Ellen,
Re: “Martir pulled a macho stunt at the Pen. He manhandled Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV and some members of the Magdalo group while they were lying face down on the floor with their hands cuffed. Asked by a member of the CA from the House why he did so, Martir answered that Trillanes and his companions “deserved it.”
You don’t kick a man when he’s down so we say in the civilian world. But that should also be true in the military world, particularly when the military officer has been apprehended and is already handcuffed.
Martir’s action on a handcuffed Trillanres is the most coward of act that can be committed by a military officer of that rank.
Absolutely not the thing to do — cops, the lowest of the low in the military rank and file may do that (unacceptable behavious even among the lowest of the low) but that is not the way honourable military officers behave towards prisoners that are “neutralized” and are already on the ground, no way!
What a coward!
Mohan, you ask Balweg, “Hi Balweg, what would you define as defending the Constitution? Toppling the government.”
Before that (Feb. 2006), there was 2001 that says only when there is a vacancy in the presidency can a vice president assume the presidency. In 2001 she grabbed power.
Then 2004. The Constitution says that only the candidate that won in an election will be proclaimed. Gloria did not win the election in 2004.
The Constitution forbids cheating and stealing. It’s a crime under our laws. Gloria Arroyo cheated and stole the votes that were not hers. She committed a crime.
The Constitution is clear about the role of the military during election. Gloria Arroyo prostituted the military in 2004. By supporting Arroyo, who tramples upon the Constitution with impunity, Martir, together with his boss Esperon, also spits on the Constitution.
Zaruk says:
“Tongue-twisted says:
‘We don’t give undue credit when someone does the job he IS expected to do in the first place.
The way you guys think is unbelievable!’
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This statement simply goes to show how out of touch you really are with the current state of the military. The AFP desperately needs men like BGEN Martir — you have no idea just how desperately.”
Ah, so you are “desperate” enough to allow an AWOL officer with several violations of that rule get away with it and since he can REPAIR DEFECTICE RESOURCES, he has to become a General, too!
Tell you what, it does not need a space scientist to figure that out. And while you’re at it, maybe you can ask your good BGen Martir to fix some “defective resources” in GHQ or White House, too.
Maybe, I’d even volunteer to pin him his second star!
Zaruk:”The AFP desperately needs men like BGEN Martir — you have no idea just how desperately.”
Gloria Arroyo needs him. Gloria Arroyo, the liar, the cheat, and the thief.
Remember the basilan tragedy when mortars turned out to be duds? Martir is in charge of making sure that military resources are in good condition, right?
Fourteen Marines died there, remember. Ten of them beheaded.
Because their mortars didn’t explode.
What did Martir say about it?
Zaruk: “May BGEN Martir’s promotion proceed smoothly, and may his tribe increase in number and influence.”
In the good, ole US of A? How’s that for patriotism?
Gising na, Pilipino, tanghali na.
Late ka na naman.
Ellen,
That guy who twisted the arm of Gen Lim is SAF Bgen???Leo Santiago…who I heard from a very close friend was all praises of the Gen Lim before this chapter in his life. Now that “tagoy”, as Santiago is kissing the ass of the unauthorized woman in Malacanang, he is too proud to twist the arm and insult General Lim.
“Tarantado ka Tagoy…..I will really wait for that day na tapos na ang lahat ng ito, ako mismo ang mag ha-handcuff sa iyo at mang-iinsulto. I also heard na inggit na inggit ka noon nang na promote si Gen Lim.”
Gabriel said:
“Remember the basilan tragedy when mortars turned out to be duds? Martir is in charge of making sure that military resources are in good condition, right?
Fourteen Marines died there, remember. Ten of them beheaded.
Because their mortars didn’t explode.
What did Martir say about it?”
Man . .. you people really are fishing for reasons to hate a person.
The CSSB provides equipment and men to the field units for their needs. The specifics of how that equipment is used (e.g., how ammunition is stored, how often the ammunition is rotated) is the responsibility of the field units. If the battalion did not follow established procedures on equipment maintenance or ammunition monitoring — then that is not BGEN Martir’s fault.
Gabriela said:
“Zaruk: “May BGEN Martir’s promotion proceed smoothly, and may his tribe increase in number and influence.”
In the good, ole US of A? How’s that for patriotism?”
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I meant for his tribe to increase amongst the ranks of the AFP. As if you really didn’t know that. 😉
Gabriel said:
“Zaruk:”The AFP desperately needs men like BGEN Martir — you have no idea just how desperately.”
Gloria Arroyo needs him. Gloria Arroyo, the liar, the cheat, and the thief.”
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The AFP needs him more. If his achievements to-date were so “just part of the job” as some people would like us all to believe, then why was there so much for him to do?
Thanks to him, we are now witnessing the beginning of a healthy inter-service rivalry that seeks to show which service can become more creative about how to make the most of existing systems — and make the most of aid and tax money already spent.
Normally, I wouldnt even be tempted to answer the two presumable gentlemen who are defending Martir. Nevertheless, I’m a bit put off by the thought that (at least according to the two gentlmen) for Mr. Martir and his ilk, patriotism cannot admit of the idea of removing a government that has turned against its own people. While I would admit that it is merely their opinion and as such entitled to it, such a belief leads to self-destruction, especially when acted upon with the full weight of the might and main of the State.
The Constitution in fact, put in the Bill of Rights precisely to safeguard the citizens from unecessary and unjust State interventions and actions. To refuse to claim those rights or to allow those rights to be trampled upon is suicidal. When the dissenters took to the streets, they were merely claiming their rights as citizens and fighting for those who could not be there.
Political dissent serves as a pressure valve on a society much put upon by poverty and injustice. The likes of Martir, et al, serve only to shut off those valves by punishing legitimate dissent, in full service of their dubious authority, Mrs. Arroyo. The more people like Martir we would have occupying policy positions in government, the more oppresive we can expect it to be.
A colonel got promoted to BGen by just kicking a downed and cuffed former fellow officer. How about that going into the Guiness book of world records or in Ripley’s believe it or not?
“Zaruk Says:
‘Gabriela [It was me, TonGuE-tWisTeD, actually] said:
‘Zaruk: “May BGEN Martir’s promotion proceed smoothly, and may his tribe increase in number and influence.”
In the good, ole US of A? How’s that for patriotism?’
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I meant for his tribe to increase amongst the ranks of the AFP. As if you really didn’t know that. ”
OK then, it’s YOUR tribe! You may now do as your idol did. Go on AWOL several times and let’s see you get promoted to the next rank with NOBODY from the ranks complaining.
And you want your “tribe” to increase?
More rat poison, puhleeze!
And shall we now encourage all soldiers who want a star on their shoulders – to go on AWOL? Is that offense not part of the Articles of War?
If we can detain, Trillanes, Lim, Miranda, Querubin, et al for violation of the articles, is Martir an exemption?
Let’s hear your mind.
Take time to answer. I won’t be back until after I’ve cashed my check from my stock broker. The computer glitch yesterday gave me goose bumps.
juggernaut: sa pagpunta mo sa party ng foster father mo- a word of advice..ingat lang sa litson…baka litson ala pidal ang makain mo at malason ka… at kung sakali masalubong mo si martir (baka siya ang guardia, paki kuha ng itak at paki mar-tir-yo o better still paki tadtad ng finong fino..
Tongue-twisted said:
“OK then, it’s YOUR tribe! You may now do as your idol did. Go on AWOL several times and let’s see you get promoted to the next rank with NOBODY from the ranks complaining.
And you want your “tribe” to increase?
More rat poison, puhleeze!”
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Ey, if a mutineer can become a BGEN in the AFP, anything else is fair game. (referring to BGEN Lim in ’89).
Martir’s achievements stand for themselves. From his time with the naval staff, when he headed the team that finally brought the PN and PMC to the Web, to his efforts to improve the capability of the PMC — which is spawning initiatives in other services.
May he and people like him weather the smear campaigns. As they say “di naman binabato ang puno na walang bunga.”
mohan,
Nakakatawa ka. Tanungin mo si Mrivera kung saan lang nagagamit yung “snipers” mo. Even Martir will not go behind enemy lines with only a spotter to hit high value targets. Pwede siguro dito sa siyudad lang, like when they tried to put a sniper in Shangrila during November 29, sorry na lang hindi pumayag ang Shangrila. Thats why I still have my lunches there, tomorrow dun na naman ako, sa HEAT.
Yung “pictures” na sinasabi mo nasa WIKIPEDIA alam ko, hehehe. It only goes to show that Martir is well qualified for the armory or garage. Don’t you think kailan din niya ng “leadership” skills? Yung marunong humawak ng tao?
Oo nga pala, marunong humawak ng mga lalaki si Martir tapos kailangan talaga niya ng super long range sniper rifle, yung tipong sa office lang siya dito sa manila naka position tapos ang target is in Basilan, wow! And tawag namin sa mga taong ganyan using an old slang “SHABBY.” People who use unfair advantage or rush for priority, sa mga nanakaintindi mali to, sa mga walang malay maganda to, tingnan nyo.
mohan and zaruk,
Hindi lang kayo ang may access sa Defenders (meron ba talaga kayo?). And its “HURRAH!” not “UWAH!” mga kolokoy na sipsip, ginawa pang baby and marines. hahaha!
Martir doesn’t deserve his promotion.
We are at peace time and not at war time.
A military officer who is capable of beating up another officer, never mind that the man was a “mutineer” but one who is already down and handcuffed to boot, loses the glory of his past military achievements with that ONE single dastardly act on a man who’s already down.
There can be no excuses; furthermore, his reason “He deserved it” is a shabby reason — shows that the officer has no self-control. What example can he give his men?
What Martir did that instant wasn’t an act of courage, that was an act of cowardice. The sad part is that by doing that, he showed that he had no respect for his men. He behaved like a thug, no more no less…
A senior military officer with self-respect would have never done such a scumbag act.
I’m not impressed be the defence of Martir by Zaruk.
I’ve dealt with military officers all my life; my husband’s family comes from a long line of military officers from the time of the Napoleonic wars (my husband himself is a veteran of the Falklands, my son will be joining Sandhurst military academy soon) and I have yet to hear of a senior military officer beating up a man, another officer albeit no more, who’s already down and handcuffed to boot.
This is thuggery at its worst! It’s shocking.
Hello Anna,
If you have a strong stomach visit this site, at your own risk…
put http:// before pdff
Ooops, “I’m not impressed BY the defence of Martir by Zaruk.”
Anna,
I sent a site for you to look at but its under moderation, you can use the google, look for Defenders of the Constitution (Philippines Defense Forces Forum).
At your own risk, its either matawa ka or masuka.
What I want to hear and know about this Martir is his track record and capability of handling men in difficult situations. Was he ever assigned in Mindanao? In what capacity?
Thanks, Juggernaut. Will look it up. Must be similar to UK’s ARSE Forum (Armed Services)…
In the British Army or in the Royal Marines, what Martir did would be highly irregular — there would be an internal board of inquiry, he would be investigate but definitely NOT PROMOTED.
ace,
Jonathan Martir, is the deputy commander of the Philippine Marines Forces South. Of course, this is about the time our soldiers got ambushed several times and counting (with beheading pa). I wonder why this connection wasn’t mentioned in earlier publications…
In the UK, a similar act particularly by an officer would be INVESTIGATED for sure.
You might expect a Royal Marines sargeant in charge of military prisons or a military police private to behave like that but a senior military officer, a COLONEL and one WHO’s SUPPOSED TO BE a star rank to boot? A colonel is a commander and not some street gang leader.
Juggernaut,
Now that you mentioned it — dep cdr Phil Marines South, I too am beginning to wonder why so many beheadings happened.
First, you had Dolorfino who was kept hostage by the MILF (bloody hell!) and now a scumbag of brigadier? Geez, what’s happening to our forces? Turning yellow?
What’s happening to the officers? Following in the footsteps of their master and commander, Esperon the double crosser?
These senior military officers are becoming so yellow that they can only show “bravery” in the face of an “enemy” who’s down and handcuffed.
That’s your AFP today!
A banana military is what you’ve got today, led by a double crosser and followed by his yellow Marines officers!
Ellen,
I hope the Commission on Appointments does not confirm Martir’s rank (is he still a colonel or has he been promoted to star rank?)
If the AFP wants to professionalize its ranks it cannot allow thugs to command. You will end up with a counterpart armed forces albeit official, of the NPAs or the Abu Sayyaffs.
(Of course, Esperon will say the AFP is professional but don’t believe him because it simply ain’t true… For as long as you have commanders of the Esperon, Dolorfino or Martir type within the major services, impossible to professionalize the AFP — at best, they are just glorified uniformed local mercenaries.)
(These guys won’t even qualify for jobs as international mercenaries — too unprofessional to land the highly paid job of an international mercenary; of course, they could be boot cleaners or cooks but that’s all.)
Anna,
Martir has already updated his biodata of sorts, he put Brig. Gen as his rank. Does he know something the commission on appointments does not?
Ellen,
Sorry I wasn’t able to reply to you sooner on the treatment of Gen. Lim on Nov 29. The officers I was with yesterday were apologetic about the incident, they said it shouldn’t have happened, that he’s still a general-kausap ko pa naman general din.
Thanks Juggernaut for the info.
Juggernaut,
Pity that BGen Lim had to return home from West Point. He could have applied for US citizenship and served in the US Army — his military acumen would have been put to good use instead of being in the midst of Esperon and his yellow commanders.
Anna,
The Navy Cross is for the Navy
The Airforce Cross is for the Air Force
The Distinguished Service Cross is for the Army
The Double Cross is for Esperon
Anna,
The scholarship to West Point or Annapolis also meand you have to serve the AFP after graduating for about 8 years before you can leave (resign, whatever). So far, I’ve known two officers one from Annapolis and another from West Point who actually left the service 9 years into the it and joined the private sector. Gen. Lim was too busy in the field to think about other things, too focused on his job. He listens to his men, tries to know what they need, the reason for his actions – he knows the realities on the ground.
Nice one ace!
In 1998, a Filipino nephew of mine (who holds double citizenship) wanted to enter the PMA and am certain he would have made it, (no less than PMA supt at the time assured me that my nephew will be able to make it) entrance exams and all — but I strongly discouraged him.
I told him that he would only be frustrated with a military career in the AFP; that if he really wanted to be in the armed services, it would do him well to join the US Army instead even through the “small door” (I believe he tried West Point but failed). He joined the US Army just the same and went through the officers training program (but don’t know where exactly) — he’s now a US Army junior officer and had done a tour in Afghanistan.
He came over for a short visit before the last Summer holidays — and says that with the things he’s been hearing in RP, he was glad he followed my (and more importantly, my husband’s) advice to join the US Army instead of the Phil Army.
Ace,
Hahahahah! That’s a great one!
“Pity that BGen Lim had to return home from West Point. He could have applied for US citizenship and served in the US Army” – AdeBrux
BGen Lim could have been another Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba (U.S. Army) but Gen. Lim loves the Philippines more than his future.
Juggernaut,
You rememember we talked about the Asia Martime Academy in Bataan? You said a cousin of yours graduated this year? Well, another nephew of mine wanted desperately to join the Phil Navy, again I discouraged him, instead I told him that he would only be frustrated and that if he really wanted to sail, he might as well do it “big time” so recommended the Academy. He’s pretty happy there — another nephew joined after him. Have two nephews there presently.
Ace,
I know — what a pity! Just that I feel the AFP doesn’t deserve an officer of his caliber. With the likes of Class 72, 74 and the incoming bastards like Maj Gen Fernando Mesa, Maj Gen Dolforino, “BGen” Martir and their likes, the AFP will go to the dogs.
Anna,
That was a good call. He will only get disillusioned in the Philippines at this time. There are also ex PMA cadets who joined the US Marines, US Army, I hear good things about them, how come they are not affected much by US politics?
Juggernaut,
Because they don’t have Gloria and Esperon in the US!
“You rememember we talked about the Asia Martime Academy in Bataan? You said a cousin of yours graduated this year?” – Anna
Yes. He’s already overseas. I remember on his third year pa lang in the academy, they were sent already to the US, Japan, and other countries (with hefty allowance at that). I’ll probably enrol my son there also, as he seems to like the water very much, but I’d rather he graduate from a good university here and get a job where he can support his family well and still see them on a daily basis. I would not wish an OFW life for him if I can help it.
“I would not wish an OFW life for him if I can help it.”
Right you are, Juggernaut! My nephew really likes ships and ocean voyage — frankly, because he’s only got a Philippine passport, he couldn’t apply to Western navies, otherwise, he would have done it. He wanted to be an officer on a ship, his childhood ambition. Not even a question of because he had to work for his family like other OFWs; his parents are pretty well off and am glad his “dreams” will come true. (I often call his Academy and speak to Ed Santos to find out how he is doing — so far so good.)
But then again, if you’re son is an OFW, does that mean the “apo” can stay with you?
Hahahaha! Thinking ahead eh? Too far for you to even think of taking care of “apos”
Besides, your apo’s mother might not want her husband to go on being an intl sailor.
“I joined the navy to see the girl but what did I see, nothing but the sea?” Heh!
“I joined the navy to see the girls but what did I see, I saw the sea?” (That’s the common complaint of Royal Navy sailors — heh!
Hang on Juggernaut re Gen Lim. Did he go to West Point through the AFP or on his own?
(OK, never mind, I think I know the answer — indeed, then he was obliged to serve with the AFP after graduation…)
A CHRISTMAS GIFT FRO GMA!
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Merry Christmas to you too Gloria!
I hope they look at the cheaper medicines bill next.
mohan,
okay. granted that those innovations in the marines were initiated by martir, but did those “achievements” qualify him to go on AWOL for almost three years? were those “achievements” absolve him from such violations of AW?
wasn’t his action in manhandling a fellow officer (AT4) an ungentlemanly behavior which constitutes only the character of a certified coward?
“Gen. Lim was too busy in the field to think about other things, too focused on his job. He listens to his men, tries to know what they need, the reason for his actions – he knows the realities on the ground.”
juggernaut,
it is because he is danny lim, a person whose heart is full of compassion for his fellowman. and also, he is bgen danilo lim, an officer who puts his feet in the shoes of his men not as his subordinates but as brothers who have same feelings and sentiments like his own.
what his men do in the frontlineis what he does as a commander to show them he also a soldier!
“…..whose heart is full of compassion for his fellowmen”.
“what his men do in the frontline is what he does….”
why i only have but good words for bgen danilo lim?
the lt danny lim is knew in the 80’s is what i see in bgen danny lim today. he hasn’t changed a bit!
a real commander for his men and a true soldier for his people.
I talked to Martir after his confirmation was deferred to January 2008. Now, he denies having kicked Sen. Trillanes.
He said, “I didn’t get near Trillanes.”
He is now denying what he told a congressman who is a member of the CA last week.
I’ll tell you more about the hearing later.
Mrivera,
Exactly my point. But it’s useless extracting a direct answer. There are two issues up front: the manhandling of officers and going AWOL bigtime. The defenders here won’t even dare touch the surface. (Btw, Anna and Juggernaut has also flashed the Basilan flag.)
Even in kindergarten, attendance is primordially more important than skill. Discipline trancends everything else. How much more when speaking of military discipline.
And they give us reasons like, “Hey, but he made us a website!” Sure, like it was invented the other day. Or maybe, “But he restored a howie from the junkyard”. The guy who’s supposed to do that and his superior should have been discharged for their derelict.
Now I see, just because all the rest are incompetent, the only one that does his job is considered outstanding? Disgusting. Now the brinkmanship in AFP becomes more dangerous in the defense of this Bgen Martir’s promotion.
The more they defend Martir, the more the people see how rotten the leadership in AFP has become. The more the people see the general incompetence, or the prevalent mediocrity. Look at the reasons they advertise here!
Repair machines + go AWOL + build a website + go AWOL + abuse prisoners + go AWOL = promotion to Bgen.
(I didn’t even include “Get 5 Lieutenants killed in a single day of encounter” in the equation)
As Anna would say, “Utterly gobsmacking!”
Ellen says: “He said, ‘I didn’t get near Trillanes.’
He is now denying what he told a congressman who is a member of the CA last week.”
Why am I not surprised?
if members of the CA will give their go ahead to the promotion of martir to star rank, it would be like shouting at the face of the ordinary soldiers that any wrong doing committed by any officer can be erased by any achievements done favorable to a unit/command of the AFP, no matter how grave the offense is.
let’s just watch how the morale of the disciplined and morally upright officers and soldiers scatter in the thin air.
let them test their temper!
Ellen: “He said, ‘I didn’t get near Trillanes.’
Manang-mana kay Gloria, LIAR!
The CA committee should ask Sen. Trillanes and witnesses to confirm or deny the incident.
tounge-twisted yata ang dila nitong martir na ito.
Hahahaha! Norpil, you made my morning.
Hi AdeBrux,
I understand your feelings and frustrations sa lahat ng mga nangyayari dito sa Pinas, but still hoping that our beloved Philippines have space in your heart.
I know millions of our Kababayans already disappointed in our politicians and public servants in our country, but still many of them are honest, loyal to the Constitution and defender of democracy in our land.
Ang alaala ng aking yumaong Ama ang siyang muog ng aking pagmamahal sa ating Inang Bayan, nag-alay sila ng buhay sa Bayan upang ipagtanggol ito sa mapanakop na pwersang Hapones.
Muog sila ng kabayanihan laban sa mapanakop na banyaga, at nawa eh sa ating henerasyong ito eh maipagpatuloy natin ang tunay na laban sa mapang-api nating kababayan.
Wag nating papayagan na ang mismo nating kapwa-Pilipino ang siyang yuyurak sa ating Bayang Minamahal.
Tuloy ang Laban! Parusahan ang lahat ng mga MAKAPILI sa ating lipunan.
Maám Ellen,
Ang sinungaling po eh dapat walang karapatan sa ating lipunan maliban kung ito eh magpapakatotoo sa kanyang sarili.
Sana po yang si col. Martir eh tuluyan nang ibasura ang kanyang confirmation para mabigyan ng leksyon. Di siya karapat-dapat sa posisyon na kanyang pinakakaasam-asam, ang kailangan sa kanya eh isabak sa mga Abu Sayaf bandit para matauhan.
Ellen Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
I talked to Martir after his confirmation was deferred to January 2008. Now, he denies having kicked Sen. Trillanes.
He said, “I didn’t get near Trillanes.”
—-Martir has learned from GMA the art of denial and lying. Ano ang akala ni Martir, isa siyang martyr ?
Hi Brownberry,
Never na maging martir yan kasi sinungaling! Pwede pa eh dapat martiryuhin para matauhan at matutong magpaka-tao.
Ambisyoso gustong mapabilang sa mga General problems, tama na sina Asswperon at Baryas dagdag sakit-ulo lang yan.
Buti pa eh isabak sa mga No Permanent Address at Abu Sayaf para makita natin ang galing niya, baka pupuwit-puwit yan na pabalik ng Krame.
Nasabi kong kay GMA nagmana si Martir. Didn’t GMA at first denied that she went to St. Luke’s due to illness? She claimed she was there to visit someone. Someone? Bakit inabot ng dalawang oras? That someone must be very special to her. Recently, she had a sore throat. She couldn’t speak well with a hoarse voice. Baka horse voice…boses kabayo. And then later, inamin din ng Spokesman niyang si Bunyer na nagpatingin nga si GMA sa doctor doon.
Baka kalat na ang big C sa lalamunan dahil sa kadi-deny!
AdeBrux said:
“I’ve dealt with military officers all my life; my husband’s family comes from a long line of military officers from the time of the Napoleonic wars (my husband himself is a veteran of the Falklands, my son will be joining Sandhurst military academy soon) and I have yet to hear of a senior military officer beating up a man, another officer albeit no more, who’s already down and handcuffed to boot.
This is thuggery at its worst! It’s shocking.”
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You have to remember that the AFP is very special organization. What other military in the world will a coup plotter like Danilo Lim be promoted to BGEN.
Mutiny carries a penalty of death in some armed forces. Yet in the Philippines, all is required is a few push up and then he is on his way to his star.
May BGEN Martir’s promotion sail through — otherwise it is a signal to all officers that the chain of command is worthless, and innovation and hard work are meaningless in the AFP.
Zaruk: May I know where you buy your brain-food? I’d like to buy some for my puppy? I am hoping he will grow up to be a misguided but loyal tuta! Thank you!
Zaruk “May BGEN Martir’s promotion sail through — otherwise it is a signal to all officers that the chain of command is worthless, and innovation and hard work are meaningless in the AFP”.
Bakit hindi siya na confirm?? Aber?
BGEN D. Lim, BGen. J. Sabban, Col. A. Querubin…admittedly they were all involved in ’89. After suffering the consequences, they returned to their respective units and they reaped achievements. Kailangan ba natin isa isahin ang mga achivements na yon? Si Martir, tell me what he did? Nag AWOL kasi nainggit dahil under achiever!! Kilala mo ba kung sino ang nag kupkop sa kanya nung galing siya sa America (galing AWOL) na halos walang wala na siya? Kilala mo ba kung sino ang nagmalasakit sa kaniya? Yung mga taong trina-traydor niya ngayon!
Talaga namang meaningless na ang mga achievement ngayon sa AFP a! Ang binibigyan ngayon ng medalya ay iyong mga namimilipit ng braso, naninipa at sinungaling!
Kung wala ang grupo nina Gen. Miranda, Gen. Lim, Col. Querubin, Magdalo and other honorable men na nagbibigay pa ng konting ningning sa AFP kahit nakakulong, tuluyan ng palpak ang militar.
Hi Buhawi,
Paki himay naman ang buong pagkatao ni Col. Martir, para sa buong kaunawaan ng Ellenville community.
Parang kabute yan na biglang lumitaw at heto controbersyal pa ang dating sa Masa. Yan ata ang naghudas sa hanay ng Marine corps, dapat eh turuan yan ng leksyon sapagka’t isang anay yan na sisira sa imahe ng Marino.
Panagawan kina Gen. Miranda at Col. Querubin dapat turuan nýo ng military loyalty yang si Martir eh MAKAPILI pala at ASTIG. Akalain nýo bang nagpasikat sa PEN standoff, eh gusto palang mapromote eh. Dapat sa Mindanao yan ipinadala at isabak sa mga bandidong Abu Sayaf, tingnan lang natin ang tapang niya.
chi Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Baka kalat na ang big C sa lalamunan dahil sa kadi-deny!
—Talagang kalat, natuyo na sa lalamunan niya ang mga ala-alang iniwan sa kanya ni Nani Perez.
Chi maliit lang talaga ang mundo, eh akalain mo eh dito pa tayo magkita-kita sa Ellenville.
Iisa lang pala ang iniisip natin eh, ang magkaroon ng tunay na mapayapang lipunan at maunlad na bansa.
Samantalahin na nating ang pagkakataong ito para kalampagin ang mga Kababayan natin na ang iniisip lamang eh pangsariling kapakanan.
Saan ka mang dumako sa ating Bansa puro reklamo at hinaing ang maririnig natin, kaliwa’t kanan ang angal, mahirap daw ang buhat at mahal ang bilihin pero takot naman silang sipain si tita Glo sa Malacanang.
Mabola at utuutuin lang eh ang hiyaw Gloria pa rin! Pasasaan ba naman tayo niyan, isip lamok at hunghang na katwiran.
mohan…Yung mga nagawa ni Martir sa PMC ay worth commending pero sorry trabaho niya yon e. Huwag mong sabihin na siya lang ang nag iisip ng matino at nag tra-trabaho sa Corps. Pero anuman ang nagawa niya, paki sabi lumaban siya ng patas at huwag apakan ang iba lalo na yung mga nakatataas sa kanya para ma promote lang siya.
I know he is desperate to be the NEXT Commandant kasi malapit na siya mag retire pero paki sabi “mahiya” naman siya kung may natitira pang hiya dahil may mas senior sa kanya at mas malayong deserving. He is being groomed by his equally non deserving Commandant.
Maligayang Pasko Brownberry,
Hay naku eh nabanggit mo si 2Million dollarman, wala talagang patas na batas sa ating Bansa.
Dapat siguro palitan na natin ang Timbangan sa Korte Suprema, obsolete na yon….high tech na ngayon at digital na eh touch screen pa.
Ang kalaykay ni GMA ang ipalit natin tutal yon naman ang IN ngayon, at walang hustisya sa ating Bayan.
Alam ko mayroong hihirit at ipagtatanggol ang hustisya sa bansa, so welcome sa kanila at dapat lang para kasuhang lahat sina GMA, TABAKO, cabals of General Problems, civil society (not all ha), TRAPO, Elitists (not all)at sino pa?
Number 1 akong maniniwala kung uunahin ang nabanggit na kinauukulan, sampulan lahat yan at muling babalik ang tiwala ng Sambayanang Pilipino sa Korte Suprema.
Same to you, Balweg. How are you related to Fr. Balweg? Ano na kaya ang ginagawa ngayon ni Nani Perez? Balita ko puro ang text nila ni GMA. Nani keeps asking how her throat is.
# Brownberry Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
chi Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Baka kalat na ang big C sa lalamunan dahil sa kadi-deny!
—Talagang kalat, natuyo na sa lalamunan niya ang mga ala-alang iniwan sa kanya ni Nani Perez.
***
Ha!Ha!Ha! Pilyo ka, Brownberry.
Paging Zaruk and mohan:
Mukhang die hard fan o kaya mga alaga kayo ni Martir. Paki enumerate naman ang mga achivements and assigments ng BOSS nyo between 1990 and 2000. Baka may mapulot kaming maganda para endorse namin sa CA at baka sakaling makalusot siya. Pag hindi siya nakalusot sa susunod na CA hearing siguro alam nyo na ang batas…balik siya sa next lower rank. And goodbye to his dream of becoming the next CPMAR. However, ika nga nila, miracles do happen.
Buhawi ang lakas ng dating ng iyong pen name, Maligayang Pasko ha…. remember yong regalo ko ha!
Tamaka nag-aambisyon yang si Martir na maging Commandant ng Marine Corps, Dios ko po! Yan na lang ang tanging nag-iisang sandatahang lakas na iginagalang at tinitingala ng Sambayanan Pinoy eh sasalahulain pa. YAKS! Mahiya ka naman Martir eh baka gusto mong ma martirlyo at nang matauuhan ka.
Unawain na lamang natin si klasmayt Mohan, magpapasko naman eh….tutal libre naman ito at dito natin masusukan ang pagiging isang makabayan ng Pinoy.
Dito masusukat ang lawak ng pinagkukunan ng isang tao at katatagan sa paninindigan ukol sa makatotohanang ipinaglalaban buhay at maka-taong pamamaraan.
Ang Ellenville ay bukas sa lahat upang ihasa ang puso at kaisipan sa pagpapayaman at pagpapalawak ng kaunawaan at kaalaman sa pulitikal na aspeto ng lipunang Pinoy.
Dito lilinangin ang mapurol na pag-iisip upang tumalino at maging mabuting mamamayang Pilipino.
Brownberry,
My friends called me Balweg kasi nga i stand in the midst of Christless society saan pa eh di sa Pinas.
I admired Fr. Balweg in his loved to our Almighty God and our Beloved country. He is a light in the wilderness and his legacy like a mighty sword na kailangan nating gamitin against the power of darkness now residing at Malacanang.
Buhawi,
Pag nakontak mo na ang mga Kgg. Zaruk at Mohan, paki imbitahan naman sa Ellenville garden at ng makapag-tsikahan muna tayo, tutal ang sarap ng malamig na simoy ng hangin dito. Refreshing talaga!
Brownberry,
Adopted son!
balweg…yung pen name mo ata ang malakas ng dating kasi si Fr. Balweg ay isa ring tunay na mandirigma. Maligayang Pasko rin sa ‘yo at exchange gift tayo, pwede? he he
Siguro ang mga kaibigan nating sina Zaruk at Mohan ay kasalukuyan nag re-research sa mga “achievements” ng soon-to-be Commandant sana nila. Anu pa man, Maligayang Pasko na rin sa kanila.
Buhawi,
Alam mo kung nagkataon eh naging isang Pari din ako kaya lang eh iba ang misyon ng Panginoon na ipingawa sa akin.
OK, dapat pala may exchange gift tayo sa Pasko, sa Ellenville natin idaos ito.
Well, good luck kina Zaruk at Mohan, paki bilisan ang research ng ma update tayo sa achievements ni Col. Martir, alam mo ang kinikilala ko lang eh sina Gen. Miranda, Col. Querubin and co.
Yong mga may daga sa dibdib na Marino eh dapat isabak yon sa mga ABU ng magsitapang at matutong manindigan para sa Bayan.
Maging Commandant ika mo eh, baka siya nahihibang? Patunayan muna na niya sa Mindanao, nadoon ang problemang insureksyon.
Kasamang Balweg, matanong ko nga sa iyo…Wasn’t Fr. Balweg suspected to be a DPA (Deep Penetration Agent) of the government and military? Tulad siya ni Corpuz noon na pinaghinalaang pakawala ng gobyerno at militar.
Buhawi,
Hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin sinasagot nung 2 defenders ni Martir yung tungkol sa AWOL. Alam ko sundalo ka, tsip. Paki-sabi mo nga, ganyan na ba talaga ka-talamak ang pag-aAWOL sa kasundaluhan at hindi na pinaparusahan?
Ang lagi namang isinasagot nitong mga comrades mo e kundi yung achievements, yung kaso nila BG Lim. Hindi masagot yung mga issues laban sa kumpirmasyon.
Pabayaan na nila si Lim, et al, may kaso na sila sa Court Martial at RTC. Kung mapapatunayang “nagkasala” sila, handa naman silang pagdusahan iyon.
Pero itong si Martir ni hindi nakasuhan. Malakas siguro talagang “sumipsip” (tama ba, juggernaut?).
Kawawa naman ang mga Marines kung ito pa ang magiging successor nila Allaga at Dolorfino. Yung isa, lasenggo, yung isa naman, kidnap volunteer!
Brownberry, kung hindi pa defective itong DDRAM ng utak ko, ang pumatay kay Father Balweg ay yung kapatid niya mismo, at ang pinagtalunan ay yung pondo ng CPLA na nilustay umano ng pari.
Maybe Martir is good with machinery. But keep him away from people. Upon the suggestion of one of the posters here (buhawi was that you?), did a bit of research and I found at least two people who say that Martir attempted to suborn perjury in relation to the February 2006 incident. One officer was charged with an offense he did not commit, courtesy of Mohan’s “friend.” After which, he was allegedly approached by Martir and offered exoneration in exchange for damaging testimony against Col. Ariel Querubin. He was told that the testimony need not be true.
Scuttlebutt is loud that Martir saw the 2006 incident as a means of pulling himself up by his bootstraps. Took a close look at the affidavit he submitted as his testimony in relation to the 2006 incident and noticed that his allegations were most damaging to those he considered competition. Even more interesting is that his “testimony” is uncorroborated. He implicated people like Gen. Renato Miranda and Col. Jojo De Leon, both of whom were instrumental in resolving the crisis at the time. Col. De Leon was even given a citation. Both are now in jail courtesty of Zanuck’s “friend.”
As for the officer who was offered exoneration, he is also still in jail for a crime he did not commit.
klingon,
Thanks for the narration. Now, the events that led to the encarceration of Gen. Miranda et al are becoming clearer to me.
The CA must really look into the person and military service of Martir, palagi na lang nila tayo tinatapunan ng walang-kwentang lider!
Sabi ko na nga “rat,” someone who sells out or “squeels” on his mistahs, underclassmen, and most gruesome of all – binenta niya Commanding Officer niya. Ang mga opisyal na ganito malimit nababaril sa mga “encounter” pero hindi ng kalaban, ng sariling mga tao niya. I doubt if he will find the courage to go with his men in actual skirmishes, kahit patrolling lang (magsuot na siya ng kevlar helmet, body armor). On second thought, pati mga iyun questionable ang quality dahil sa kinurakot na rin ng logistics.
This “siraan” para lang makakuha ng “star” ay matagal ng nangyayari, panahon pa ni Marcos, in most cases kung sino malapit sa Presidente panalo.
The trouble with Martir for the people here is that he’s not the type to “ride along” with coup plotters. He didn’t stand aside and just let his fellow officers go ahead with their plans. Hindi sya “nakisama” as if toppling the government and getting a lot of people killed in the process is something buddies do for kicks. He fought Lim and company in Makati in 1989 as one of the Marine officers loyal to the government. He was a spoiler for the unrepentant plotters again in 2006, and the same again last November. A little honesty, people, that’s why you’re gunning for him. Miranda, De Leon, Lim and Querubin aren’t innocent. They were plotting to overthrow the government. Otherwise why would you consider them heroes and “true patriots”? What did they do to deserve your adulation? Get fired? They were launching a coup and got caught. You’re praising them for “taking a stand” and yet their defense has always been to deny what you praise them for.
mohan,
You are still living in fantasy land, that this government is the “legal” government. Withdrawal of support is the right thing to do since the “constitution” has been violated already by GMA, Esperon and others.
So throw away your “Boys From the Barracks by Yabes” and start reading “Closer than Brothers by Macoy” or better yet look up “Henry David Thoreau.” If we listened to people like you, we couldn’t have toppled Marcos! You’re a scared, narrow minded fool, look at the whole picture. We have a government that is run by thugs, able to use the law to their advantage, what can we do? Unlike you, we just can’t lie down and enjoy it!
mohan,
And if its you Mr. Martir (as Mohan is a name derived from JONATHAN MARTIR), SHAME ON YOU! Let your men praise you, commend you, HUWAG BUHATIN ANG SARILING BANGKO!
Duh. My handle is even in the HD Thoreau link on your name.
“Withdrawal of support is the right thing to do since the “constitution” has been violated already by GMA, Esperon and others.”
There’s actually a legal way to do it: it’s called resignation. Then they can join the political process. In any case like I said, the defense of the plotters has always been that they weren’t doing anything of the sort so who’s delusional? You’re praising them for doing what they deny doing. Or are you confirming that there was a plot?
mohan,
Honestly, I’d rather spend my christmas sponsoring christmas parties for street children or a public hospital somewhere and we’re actually busy with preparations.
You must understand that some people here actually served under Gen. Lim before, and some even were plebes when Martir was a tactical officer of a company in PMA in the mid 80’s. And some of us are still in contact with mistahs in the field, so you will see how emotional some people will get when you mention the “squeeler’s” name.
Wow, so you’re a saint. Sorry but how is that relevant? What should Martir have done? Should he have just stood aside for the sake of camaraderie? How many people died during Lim’s 1989 coup anyway? Did you or he ever sponsor a Christmas party for the widows and orphaned children of 1989?
mohan,
Some of us did resign during Honasan’s time, but you can’t imagine the endless days of regret and torment of leaving your brothers behind, leading to a decision to leave the country for good.
There can be no legal means anymore, they control the numbers, any legal move will only serve to validate this regime’s power over us and feed it.
And there was no plot. Honestly most were taken by surprise. Its not like the time of Honasan where they had the support of some senator, businessmen, and ambitious politicians. Look at the Oakwood and Manila Pen incidents closely…
mohan,
There you go again. Everybody I know spends christmas with some street family (in the church), why is this impossible for you? You don’t have to be a saint to do this, try it. Maybe if you spend some time with these people you will be moved a bit, do something for others for a change. Trillanes, Querubin, and Lim are doing it, ask the people who were under them.
**”Some of us did resign during Honasan’s time, but you can’t imagine the endless days of regret and torment of leaving your brothers behind, leading to a decision to leave the country for good.
There can be no legal means anymore, they control the numbers, any legal move will only serve to validate this regime’s power over us and feed it.
And there was no plot. Honestly most were taken by surprise. Its not like the time of Honasan where they had the support of some senator, businessmen, and ambitious politicians. Look at the Oakwood and Manila Pen incidents closely…”** – jug
1) Wait, if you left the country for good how do you conduct your Christmas parties for street children?
2) Resigned or canned? You’re saying RAM ka na sabit sa ’89?
3) The thing about Oakwood is that it boggles the mind how anyone can claim that there was no plot when elaborate preperations were made like the Magdalo flag armband (funny how they invoke Bonifacio who was Magdiwang) and blood compact ceremonies (too bad for them they didn’t spend time planning anything tactically significant). For the 2006 plot, wait till I have time from work. It’s a nice story but you’ll get how even airport ticketing agents were warning about it beforehand.
4) About Thoreau, I’m more a fan of Gandhi and Rizal, Gandhi who would never endorse civil disobedience WHILE TOTING FIREARMS and Rizal who believed that if people tried to secure change through fraud and force, without a clear understanding of what they were trying to accomplish, all efforts will fail and it is better that they do fail because if they’re not serious enough to work hard and build something of value what’s the point? What can you achieve besides a reversal of roles and a perpetuation of a cycle of tyranny?
Juggernaut and Mohan;
I beat you two are soldiers with different principles and ideology. If a soldier want to involve in politics they need to resign their commission or the active service and leave the military core value with honor and dignity. Leave the political battle to the legislatures.I am speaking from my experience naging military rin ako kaya lang under the banner of star and stripes.
From the moment a person become soldier, they inculcate loyalty, duty, honor, integrity, and selfless service. And yet when they get to the senior-officer level they forget those values. And they become politicized. They violated those principles and violated the core of our military values. The stress of combat is not an excuse.
Soldiers also are not required to obey an unlawful order. They are required to disobey an unlawful order. Soldiers swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions is straightforward and clear.
Soldiers be personally held responsible for all of their actions, in all countries, at all times and places, for the rest of your life. “I was only following orders” is not a defense.
If you are ordered to violate Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, it is your duty to disobey that order. No clarification, whether passed by Congress or signed by the president, relieves you of that duty. If you are ordered to violate Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, this is what to do:
1. Request that your superior put the order in writing.
2. If your superior puts the order in writing, inform your superior that you intend to disobey that order.
3. Request trial by court martial.
Soldiers in the U.S.A, do not question their orders and do not criticize the civilians who control the military.Sa Pilipinas lang ang may ugali ng mga militar na ganyan kaya sila nagiging kurap.Si Lt.Watada lang ang ayaw mapadala sa Iraq may gugustuhin pa niyang manghimas ng rehas kesa umani ng kabayanihan at medal. They remain staunchly apolitical as long as they wear the uniform. And that seems in general a very good thing for democracy.But when soldiers are no longer on active duty, when they have returned to being civilians, it seems to them that it is their duty as citizens,citizens with a special set of experiences and relevant expertise to speak out, to let everyone know how the political and military situation looks from their unique perspective.
Cocoy, I guess the US military is really different. Imagine they request a court martial. Now that is honorable.
Mohan;
Military discipline is the key to accomplish it’s missions. U.S. active members are all under military rules, regulations, and policies are established to insure good order and discipline within the military. To insure compliance with these rules, regulations, and policies all military members are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).The military justice system is one tool used to correct breaches of discipline; it protects the rights of both the institution and individual service member. Punishment may be rendered through non judicial punishment (Article 15) or judicial punishment (court-martial).According to the UCMJ, military service members do not lie, cheat, steal, or engage in activities that bring discredit upon the service, nor do they tolerate those who do. In addition, the UCMJ specifically states that all officers must become involved when breaches of discipline occur in their presence and report all such violations to the proper authorities within their chain of command.
Although President Bush faced a lot of opposition in going to war in Iraq,we all supported our troops.We have a lot of good and courageous Filipinos serving a tour duty,some lost their lives in fighting that war and we always considered them heroes.The families of those who perished,the U.S.government take good care of them in term of lifetime U.S.Veteran’s monthly pensions.
“You have to remember that the AFP is very special organization.”
zaruk, what special organization are you talking about? are you a member of a favored group in the armed forces? say belonging to the folds of esPWEron?
are you also someone who wears badges though not actually taken the prescribed course? were you someone awarded a medal supposed to be obtained in risking life in combat but the truth was you were only scratching your balls inside the comfort of your airconditioned office?
if you really are one of what i mentioned above, then you are a big FOOL!
and if you are one, have you exposed yourself in enemies’ fire in combat? for how long?
mohan,
Gandhi was influenced by Thoreau, just like Martin Luther King.
Perhaps it will clarify matters if our positions are clarified, GMA is the fraud, she won the presidency by cheating, so by all intents and purposes her regime is “unconstitutional” and their control of the numbers in congress assure their protection. If all goes as planned, Martir will have his wish, the same way Esperon did, because they hold all the aces.
If you’re familiar with companies operating globally, you’ll know that its possible to travel to and from any country on a weekly, even monthly basis, my area happens to be SEA (South East Asia).
And as for “toting firearms” don’t let that frighten you. These are soldiers, the only way they can make a stand is to be in full battle gear, without it, they feel naked. They were made this way. Notice there were no collateral damage from their end in both instances, during the Manila Pen incident though, it was the government forces that made all the damage. Believe in what you want to believe, nobody here is forcing you, thats the essence of democracy. We ate just like-minded individuals who have a common belief and a common goal, find your own niche if you like. Here we feel secure in the belief that we can talk freely to each other without someone selling us out, or using what we say in affidavits against us.
cocoy,
The US military is a whole different story altogether. Please look at the microlevel, you have soldiers in the field, cooking their food on stones with firewood, consisting mostly of a very nutritious meal of rice and sardines. For water, they get from the river somewhere so amoebiases or diarrhea is common. Then look at the tattered uniforms, combat boots, kevlar helmets that are as good as styropore when shot at (kung may kevlar), and mortar rounds that don’t explode. Look at the US troops, K rations pare, with portable water filtration systems, sa Iraq nga they spend millions of dollars just for food, add all the support systems. I have friends in the US Army and Marines, its a whole different ballgame. Here, the squad leader, the platoon leader, the company commander, bottomline, the officers must fight for supplies for their men at the risk of court martial. I have lost friends who conveniently committed suicide daw because they dare question superior officers’ use of finances or being involved in smuggling.
Any officer worth his salt (with the exception of Martir) will value the welfare of his men and not just promotions or medals.
Mohab said amoung other things:
“Rizal who believed that if people tried to secure change through fraud and force, without a clear understanding of what they were trying to accomplish, all efforts will fail and it is better that they do fail because if they’re not serious enough to work hard and build something of value”
Are you refering here to Administration and/or AFP Generals who acted unlawfully against the Constitution?
Kung tutuusin nga, its the veteran enlisted personnel who are doing all the work. The officers have to earn the respect of these EPs, show they are worth respecting or be followed like Col. Querubin and Gen. Lim.
mohan,
If you and you’re ilk are anything like Martir, then I will say to all of the bloggers here that we are in grave danger – as everything we say/type will be used against us when the time comes.
mohan….short question. When Gen. Reyes and co. staged a mutiny against erap in 2001, nangalampag ba si Martir? In words or in deed?
buhawi,
Malamang nasa US of A pa yun (AWOL).
In words pwede naman di ba? kung talagang consistent siya. In my view it’s personal kasi inggit siya sa mga taong involved.
Juggernaut;
Karamihan sa mga enlisted sa U.S.military service ay kumukuha lang ng GI bills para sa kanilang college tuition fees.Karamihan ay hindi naqualify for university admission.Mag mimilitary lang ang mga iyan ng isang kontrata 4 years tapos aalis na sila at qualify na silang mag-enroll sa college mayroon silang 4years college education na babayaran ng GI bills at may allowance pa.Iyun naman hindi nag military at kaagad pumasok sa university pagkagraduate nila ay nire-recruit sila at commissioned officers sila lieutenant agad, kaya lang mahina ang usad ng promotion di tulad ng graduate talaga sa West Point,Air Force at Naval Academy iyun ang nag-i-stay,iyung mga college graduate na nakomisyon ay kumukuha lang ng working experience.Itong anak ko nga nakomisyon na sa U.S.Navy Ltjg pagkagraduate niya ng kanyang bachelor’s degree in accountancy pero mas malaki raw ang kikitain niya sa civilian pag maipasa niya ang board exam at ayaw niyang mag-military,siguro pag wala siyang makuhang trabaho pagka graduate niya baka sakali no choice siya.
Maganda ang mga benefit ng mga military dito sa merica libre medical at dental,free housing,free food,uniform allowance at may extra fee pa pag overseas ang distino.Pag sa dagat nadistino masaya sa bapor at open ang gally 24 hours.
– – “The US military is a whole different story altogether. Please look at the microlevel, you have soldiers in the field, cooking their food on stones with firewood, consisting mostly of a very nutritious meal of rice and sardines. For water, they get from the river somewhere so amoebiases or diarrhea is common. Then look at the tattered uniforms, combat boots, kevlar helmets that are as good as styropore when shot at (kung may kevlar), and mortar rounds that don’t explode. Look at the US troops, K rations pare, with portable water filtration systems, sa Iraq nga they spend millions of dollars just for food, add all the support systems.” – jug
Jug, K-rations are from World War 2, I guess you need your facts updated. It’s MREs since 1983, and before that C-rations. K rations were issued only up to the Korean War (barely). You should know that.
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– – “I have friends in the US Army and Marines, ” – jug
Based on your statement on K-rations, I highly doubt that.
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– – “Any officer worth his salt (with the exception of Martir) will value the welfare of his men and not just promotions or medals.” – jug
The difference between a lot of other officers and Martir is that while other officers complain about shortages and malfunctioning equipment, Martir makes sure of his unit’s supplies and actually checks weapons, vehicles and ammunition to make sure they function properly. A good officer, instead of whining about what he doesn’t have and then crying at funerals, does his homework and innovates so his men don’t die. That’s why as a battalion commander Martir had running vehicles while other officers who considered it too menial to be concerned about vehicle maintenance would complain about what the government was not giving them. While others would just complain about not having armored vehicles, Martir armored his trucks and Humvees with metal from scrapped tanks, again so his men don’t die. Looking after the welfare of your men is not about toppling the government. If you are already a brigade or regiment commander, or a Marine Commandant like Messrs. Querubin, Lim and Miranda the ball is in your court already. You really have no one else to blame for the institution failing your men, you’re already at the top of it. While on the subject of the welfare of the men, I wonder if Querubin and Lim ever shed a tear for any of those killed in their 1989 coup. The fact that they tried to fool their men into joining yet another foolhardy expedition speaks volumes about their concern.
“If you and you’re ilk are anything like Martir, then I will say to all of the bloggers here that we are in grave danger – as everything we say/type will be used against us when the time comes.” – jug
Meh, big deal. You’re free to write whatever you want so long as you grant others the right to dispute what you say. And I’m disputing what you say. That’s democracy.
I stand corrected on the MREs, oo nga pala, sorry, tao lang. The bottomline is, we believe that this administration under GMA is bogus, so its not constitutional, its our right to kick them out of office.
Dispute all you want, as I said, you’re free to do so.
and mohan,
Have you ever crossed paths with Martir? Or Querubin? Or Lim? Now that we’re established that you are not from the military, as nobody I know there says “duh” how are you ASIII? hehehe
“short question. When Gen. Reyes and co. staged a mutiny against erap in 2001, nangalampag ba si Martir? In words or in deed?” – buhawi
I don’t really know because I wasn’t there. I’ll tell you this though. 2001 was more in keeping with the spirit of civil disobedience than any of the recent attempts. If you remember, the officers who went there did so specifically unarmed. That was their gamble. If Estrada had asserted his presidency and ordered them rounded up they were going to accept the consequences and not fight it out. Unfortunately for Estrada he didn’t assert his powers, lame excuses to the contrary notwithstanding. If he did assert his presidency he would have had to find officers loyal not to personalities but to the Constitution, someone like Martir. Too bad for Erap he blinked and resigned.
mohan,
Wala din yata si Martir nun.
mohan,
Alright sir?
“The fact that they tried to fool their men into joining yet another foolhardy expedition speaks volumes about their concern.”
mohan,
it is not the welfare of their men that those officers you mentioned were after when they raised their fists against this bogus administration and that of the present AFP leadership. its the whole nation’s future that was put in peril by martir’s president and SHIT of staff.
may i ask, was it martir who PERSONALLY checked, repaired and put up all equipment you mentioned above? and again may i ask, were those “accomplishments” enough passport for him to be free from any liability in his actions when he left the country unauthorized and enjoy the whole duration of his AWOL which i believe is at the expense of the government?
don’t tell me he is that rich to personally spend for his pleasure that long.
Mrivera,
Trabaho ng mga EMs inangkin na naman ng isang shabby officer. In my experience, initiatives like these mostly come from people in the motorpool.
mohan…maski balibaliktarin mo, nag blink si erap or not, it’s still a power grab, right? Ang tanong is, consistent ba siya?
– “Gandhi was influenced by Thoreau, just like Martin Luther King.” – jug
Yeah, but Gandhi was less disingenuous about civil disobedience. You don’t bring a Sharps’ carbine to a peace rally.
– “Perhaps it will clarify matters if our positions are clarified, GMA is the fraud, she won the presidency by cheating, so by all intents and purposes her regime is “unconstitutional” and their control of the numbers in congress assure their protection. If all goes as planned, Martir will have his wish, the same way Esperon did, because they hold all the aces.” – jug
You see, that’s what’s wrong with Filipinos. It’s a fraud until its what you want, then someone else will call fraud. It’s an endless cycle. Since the arguments will just be circular and pointless, let me just ask you if any of the strategically-challenged coup plotters even remotely deserve to take over? I dread to think what kind of government they’d put up considering how poorly they plan things.
– “If you’re familiar with companies operating globally, you’ll know that its possible to travel to and from any country on a weekly, even monthly basis, my area happens to be SEA (South East Asia).”
If you live in SE Asia, why say you left “for good”? That’s like moving down the street and crying about not seeing your friends ever again. Snowball…..
– “And as for “toting firearms” don’t let that frighten you. These are soldiers, the only way they can make a stand is to be in full battle gear, without it, they feel naked. They were made this way. …. thats the essence of democracy…. we can talk freely to each other…. ”
You know you talk like one of their wives. Anyway I don’t feel it is right to discuss politics and government with someone toting a gun, I don’t care if the other person feels naked without it. That’s not democracy at all. If you have one allow me to bring mine as well and we can have a fair dialogue. By the way, you’re confirming that there was a plot, right? That’s your position now?
– “Gandhi was influenced by Thoreau, just like Martin Luther King.” – jug
Yeah, but Gandhi was less disingenuous about civil disobedience. You don’t bring a Sharps’ carbine to a peace rally.
– “Perhaps it will clarify matters if our positions are clarified, GMA is the fraud, she won the presidency by cheating, so by all intents and purposes her regime is “unconstitutional” and their control of the numbers in congress assure their protection. If all goes as planned, Martir will have his wish, the same way Esperon did, because they hold all the aces.” – jug
You see, that’s what’s wrong with Filipinos. It’s a fraud until its what you want, then someone else will call fraud. It’s an endless cycle. Since the arguments will just be circular and pointless, let me just ask you if any of the strategically-challenged coup plotters even remotely deserve to take over? I dread to think what kind of government they’ll put up considering how poorly they plan.
– “If you’re familiar with companies operating globally, you’ll know that its possible to travel to and from any country on a weekly, even monthly basis, my area happens to be SEA (South East Asia).” – jug
If you live in SE Asia, why say you left “for good”? That’s like moving down the street and crying about not seeing your friends ever again. Snowball….
– “And as for “toting firearms” don’t let that frighten you. These are soldiers, the only way they can make a stand is to be in full battle gear, without it, they feel naked. They were made this way. …. thats the essence of democracy…. we can talk freely to each other…. ” – jug
You know you talk like one of their wives. Anyway I don’t feel it is right to discuss politics and government with someone toting a gun, I don’t care if the other person feels naked without it. That’s not democracy at all. If you have one allow me to bring mine as well and we can have a fair dialogue. By the way, you’re confirming that there was a real plot, right? That’s your position now?
“Have you ever crossed paths with Martir? Or Querubin? Or Lim? Now that we’re established that you are not from the military, as nobody I know there says “duh”” – jug
jug, actually, yes. And duh.. Para kang hindi nagbasa ng Archie.
mohan…I’m sure you know how the inner intestines of Martir looks like but for Lim or Querubin, I doubt it.
And yet, as Tongue-Twisted said, still no answer on the AWOL issue.
Besides, Jo-mohan, so what if your “friend” is anti-coup? That doesnt excuse suborning perjury, which, incidentally is a crime, di ba?
hi ellen/everyone. pls bear with me. i am a new blogger. in fact this is my very first post. what i do is mostly read what you people write. however, this topic about JOHN RAT got me interested to write something about the issues….and maybe about him.
duh….jug, you are partly correct about it. the expression “duh”,i mean. very unmilitary-like expression. but there is one marine officer who uses that expression. he is the current “rehashed” bn cmdr of armor bn under martir. “rehashed” because he once was a bn cmdr of the same unit but after only a few months, his men (enlisted and officers alike) petitioned higher headquarters to relieve him before anybody shoots him. JOHN RAT, took him back as a rehashed bn cmdr. mohan buddy, if you’re not him, then you can keep your peace. but since he is not the issue nor the topic here, i would withhold further information.
abangan ang susunod na kabanata….hehehehe. got to have my dinner muna
Hi Klingon,
This is address to Jo-mohan, paki-wari ko eh kontra kayo sa mga ginawa nina AT4/Gen. Lim and co., totoo ba ang hula ko o hindi naman? Di ako si madam Auring ha, kasi di naman niya nahulan na si Victor Wood eh wala palang gusto sa kanya. (It’s a showbiz, Yaks!)g
RA 386 Cha.2,Art.32:2 “Freedom of speech”, 13″The right to take part in a peaceable to petition the government for redress of grievances”.
Ignorance of the law excuses no one from compliance therewith.(RA386 Cha.1 Art.3)
Ito ang basihan na ipinaglalaban nina AT4/Gen.Lim, “No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peacebly to assemble and petition the government for redress and grievances.”Constitution Art.III Sect 4 (Bill of Rights).
Suported ito ng RA386 Cha.2, Art.19″Every person must, in the exercise of his rights and in the performance of his duties, act with justice, give everyone his due, and observe honestly and good faith.”
Bakit ang gobyernong Arroyo eh takot harapin sina AT4/Gen. Lim? Bakit tangke, tirgas, at tinga ang iniharap sa mga pobre? Ano ang ibig sabihin nito, sila ang nagviolate ng ating batas.
Ang linaw ng isinasaad sa ating Constitution at sa RA386 (Civil Code), mayroon tayong karapatan at kalayaan na magpahayag ng ating saloobin at magwithdraw ng suporta sa pamahalaang Arroyo sapagka’t ito ang ating karapatan na itinakda ayon sa Saligang Batas.
Maliwanag pa sa sikat ng buwan ang isinasaad sa Art.III, Sec.4 ng ating Saligang Batas, muli kong uulitin “…. THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE AND PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.”
Redress – meaning, tr.v. re·dressed, re·dress·ing, re·dress·es
1. To set right; remedy or rectify.
2. To make amends to.
3. To make amends for. See Synonyms at correct.
4. To adjust (a balance, for example).
n. also (rdrs)
1. Satisfaction for wrong or injury; reparation. See Synonyms at reparation.
2. Correction or reformation.
griev·ance – meaning,
n.1. a. An actual or supposed circumstance regarded as just cause for complaint.
b. A complaint or protestation based on such a circumstance. See Synonyms at injustice.
2. Indignation or resentment stemming from a feeling of having been wronged.
3. Obsolete a. The act of inflicting hardship or harm.
b. The cause of hardship or harm.
Nagkataon lamang na sa PEN sila namalagi upang doon nila ihayag ang kanilang hinaing sa taong-Bayan sapagka’t nagbibingi-bingihan ng gobyerno particular na si GMA sa problema na kinahaharap ng bansa.
Ang withdrawal ba ng support ng magigiting nating kasundaluhan o kapulisan eh matatawag na terrorism o kaya rebellion? Hindi po sapagka’t ito ang ating karapatan bilang isang mamamayang Pilipino sapagka’t ang gobyernong Arroyo ay di inihalal ng taong-bayan o walang ascendancy to govern our country sa dami-dami ng kontrobersiya na kinasasangkutan.
Dapat sa showbiz na lang sila mag-join for sure magiging IN sila doon at baka pa idolohin ng taong-bayan.
Hi Sulbatz,
Enjoy your tsibog and take time.
Batuhan mo naman kami dito ng litsong manok dapat may kasamang pepsi o kaya coke.
hi balweg,
paminsan-minsan lang ang litsong manok dito samin. kadalasan ulam namin bala ng M203(sardinas ikanga) atsaka target(asin na tinatarget ng daliri)…di alam ni JOHN RAT yan kasi ulam nya galing lagi sa o’club ng navy o kaya sa PN golf club. may kasama pang red wine. kami ay nagkakasya lamang sa tanduay. pula rin naman ang kulay nun.
1. Issue #1 (JOHN RAT is a constitutionalist)
Hi Father, er balweg, pala.
Sulbatz, your insider info is sooo inside.
1. Issue #1 (JOHN RAT as a “constitutionalist officer”)…..What a big laugh!!! JOHN RAT knows that by fashioning himself as such, he is actually playing both ends of the court. JOHN RAT knows fully well that if rebellions are quelched, he stands to gain from it. On the other hand, if it succeeds, he could always claim that his position is that of a constitutionalist….which members of the AFP look kindly upon. However, JOHN RAT was exposed for what he really is….an OPPORTUNIST.
Ask him what his stand is over the issue of the AFP being used to cheat in the elections….an abhorrent crime that spits directly at the constitution and the 85 million filipinos. i know his answer, but i will wait for his sycophants to post the answer here….hehehehehe
i’m just wondering…..mohan, in all his defense of JOHN RAT, has never once mentioned if this rat is a seasoned combat officer……hehehehehehe again. but i could debunk all the claims of mohan and zaruk regarding JOHN RAT’S “accomplishments”. wanna bet mohan buddy….hehehehe again.
mohan,
Sorry, it took so long for me to get back, just met some friends and I showed your posts via laptop (weroam) and I got a lot of laughs and of course some malutong na “PI!” Especially the part when you got me with the K rations, oo nga naman, I only had skyflakes and sardines in my haversack kasi, how would I know about MREs. Yung sarhento kasi namin na veteran pa yata sa Vietnam panay ang banggit ng k rations, tuloy yun lang alam ko and some others.
Okay, its obvious that you’ve read Martir’s self written and self posted resume, so me and my buddies have come up with some questions you cannot possibly wiki.
Here goes :
1) When Mr. Martir was a tactical officer in the ‘cademy, what company did he handle?
2) Did you ever ask “EI” from a bogobogo about him?
3) Mr. Martir is a _____ brat?
4) Define the “salute.”
5) In the “Plebe Song” the parades and inspections and then the corrections are part of a _______ scheme?
Now Mohan, yung “duh” and “meh” are what we call “civilian antics” and are supposed to be beaten out of you in summer camp. And, you don’t have this “unmistakable grammatical errors” normally found in the written communications of people in the military (too good grammar), and, you have this habit of answering on a “per point” basis. Hey, the guy from FBI training here noticed that. So, you must be a civilian with a background in law? Not bad ha, for people having beer and sisig.
But honestly, the consensus is that you have some nerve, no one in this “man’s military” could ever denounce Gen. Lim and Querubin openly, even secretly, they can say they “disagree” but not insult their names. You are lucky you’re hiding in a corner somewhere. Can you come over to the National Defense College firing range this weekend, some people would love to see you use your gun. hehehe…
Vist this site to have “EI.”
http://www.sundalo.bravehost.com/About.htm
Mohan must have gotten his hands on Martir’s accomplishment report, you know the one he submitted to the CA. One question that came out was, if Martir was able to prevent deaths with his re-armored vehicles why all the deaths recently (ambushed) and what good are these vehicles in the terrains they operate in? You’re supposed to avoid roads and common pathways in patrolling both combat and recon? So its obvious that these are for parades?
Laxitibo ka bata!
balweg Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Brownberry,
Adopted son!
——Sinong adopted son? Ikaw o si Fr. Balweg ang adopted son mo?
jug, nadale mo. mga accomplishment ni JOHN RAT cosmetics lang. walang pakinabang yung mga nirehab nyang gamit ng unit nya. example…
1. yung anti-aircraft gun, di yan dumaan sa approval ng capability board ng marines. kaya nga na-mothball na yan kasi ala namang pakinabang. wala namang eroplano ang npa at milf/mnlf so anong anti-aircraft ang kailangan? ginawa lang ni JOHN RAT yan para alam mo na…..may pundo eh. heheheeheh
kahit sinong marino ang tanungin mo, walang mangangahas na gagamit ng rehab anti-aircraft ni JOHN RAT. madadagdagan lang ang mamamatay. pero may sagot dyan si JHON RAT…hihintayin ko na lang na yung sycophants nya ang sumagot dito. gogogogo mohan buddy. hehehehe
SULBATZ
Kahapon ko pa nga antay ang “accomplishments” na request ko sa mga magigiting na kasama natin dito.
mohan,
Pusang Alaws! Meron pala sa website plebe song, all the songs for that matter – additional questions!
1) Anong tawag sa ginagawa ng plebo sa first picture? (leftmost)
2) Anong tawag sa mga milestones na ipinakita sa mga pics na to?
http://www.worldtourist.us/songsofthecorps/plebesong.html
sulbatz,
Oo nga pala, anong gamit dun sa anti-aircraft gun na iyon eh hindi naman lumilipad tong mga milf/mnlf? Baka sa mga manananggal sa bundok? Hay naku, beer busting tayo, ako na naman ang taya…
klingon,
sooooo inside is an understatement…..hehehe
trivia….who is the only marine officer in the history of the phil marines who jogs around his camp in ft bonifacio with a jeepload of security armed to the teeth(may snipers pa) and a sweeper motorcycle with armed marines to clear his way. onli in the pilipin marines. hahahahahaha. tragis, pati sarili nyang tauhan takot sya.
buhawi,
hihintay ko rin accomplishment ni JOHN RAT na i-post dito although may kopya ako (hehehehehe. pero hayaan natin si mohan. saka ko na lang hihimayin pag andyan na (suspense)
jug,
sali ako dyan basta hindi ako ang taya. para naman maiba ang panlasa namin sa tanduay dito. hahahah
SULBATZ,
Nadale mo dre’ “OPPORTUNIST”. Biglang nakakita ng “opportunity” baka sakaling mag CPMAR siya at hayun, dali dali inaapakan at pilit linalaktawan ang mga nasa unahan niya na malayong magigiting, honorable and deserving.
regards daw sainyong lahat sabi ng mga tagarito sa basilan. nababasa nila mga post nyo. panay tawa nila. yung iba syempre nagmumura, lalo na pag si JOHN RAT ang pinag-uusapan. nag-iinuman kami ngayon, pulutan “daga”. pulutan namin si JOHN RAT.
SULBATZ,
Hindi ko na kailangan ang kopya kasi madaling memorize…konti lang e…he he
sulbatz,
Regards din sa inyo, pagpasensyahan nyo na lang si Caculitan mabait naman yan.
SULBATZ,
Regards din sa inyong lahat na mga mandirigma diyan! Pa kampai nalang ng isa diyan sa hindi pag lusot ng confirmation ni JR. Hooorraahh!!
ok lang jug, ala naman akong masabi dyan kay sir ariel caculitan. di ko lang talaga matiis na di mag-comment tungkol kay JOHN RAT lalo na pinapalabas ni mohan at zaruk na magaling daw na officer at the expense of those who are in tanay. sana andito sila kasama namin. basta stick lang tayo sa issue ni JOHN RAT, wala namang kinalaman ang iba rito…kahit na marami tayong alam. hehehehee
buhawi,
Alam mo ikaw pa lang nakatama diyan, dun sa “Defenders…” na fan club ni Allaga at Martir sabi ba naman “uwah!” pastilan!
jug,
Siguro para sa dalawa yun, shabby ba? hehe
Paki post nga dito ang URL ng “Defenders” na yan para madalaw. Gusto ko lang tumawa, hehe
buhawi,
” http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=3190 “
buhawi,
pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=3190
put (http:// before pdf)
sa totoo lang jug, di ko pa nabasa yang defenders na yan. busy kasi kami sa pakikipagbakbakan habang si JOHN RAT ay busy sa paggawa ng “accomplishments” nya sa kung saan-saang forum. meron bang nakalagay dyan sa defenders kung ilang rebelde na ang naputukan ni JOHN RAT. ang alam ko lang eh warrior ng firing range yan si JOHN RAT. ang kaya nya lang barilin eh yung target paper na walang kalaban-laban. atsaka syempre yung tumadyak ng kapwa sundalo na nakatali na ang kamay sa likod. tragis, duwag talaga.
nasaan na ba si mohan buddy…..hehehehehe
sulbatz,
Naging adviser yata yan sa practical/combat shooting club sa cademy dati yata. Hindi ako pwede dun eh, BOLO MAN lang daw – meaning kailangan ko daw ng itak/bolo para makapatay o makasugat man lang ng kalaban (pasmado yata pulso ko). Sayang, ang ganda pa naman uniform ng mga yun…
buhawi,
Ang hirap, palaging your comment is awaiting moderation. Ganito na lang, google mo jonathan martir, lalabas yun, pati yung profile na siya ang gumawa na may brig. gen. na…
Oo, yung pagtadyak niya dun sa mga nakatali na, pang kodak moment daw yun. Pati mga taga PNP hindi nagustuhan yun, siyempre hindi lang sila nagsasalita in public.
jug,
TY…try ko. Tama ka, si JR ay pasimuno noon ng practical/combat shooting sa academy. Pero kung hindi mo alam, si Col. Querubin ay isa ring pistolero at nakasabayan niya noon si JR.
buhawi,
Tama, naging tactical officer din si Col. Querubin. Ang balita nga akala nila kasama nila si JR nung withdrawal of support, akalain mo naman bigla na lang nagkaroon ng papeles implicating his mistah Querubin ang CO Miranda. Ambisyoso talaga!
the problem with some people (JOHN RAT particularly) is that they could not stand on their own merits. they need to trample upon others just so they could scale the ladder. JOHN RAT is an example of an egotistical maniac who could not wait for others to praise him (parang meron namang ipi-praise sa kanya…hahahaha)that he needs to do it himself. take hold of his NP (neuro-psychiatric) test and you will see the real JOHN RAT….dyandyaraaaaaannnnn! may alam ako, hehehehe….mohan buddy, c’mon make my day.
by the way, according to the “old hands” dito sa marines, umiyak yan si JOHN RAT sa first encounter nya. first and last. segundo kamote pa sya nun. my source was with him during that time. itong source ko bago tunggain ang tanduay, binibendisyunan muna ng “PI” sabay banggit ng pangalan ni JR.
sulbatz,
di ko n kaya. kailangan iligpit na tong gamit ko baka madisgrasya pa. merry crismas pre!!!! sori hndi kayang bisitahin ang basilan, hanggang davao lang ako, wla kasi akong client dyan…mabuhay kayo and we’re proud of you all!!!
Sweeper bike, jeepload of security, armed to the teeth, INSIDE the camp??? No wonder he keeps pushing for the conviction of the Tanay boys. Their release will give him more reasons to be praning. Can’t wait to get this guy on a witness stand.
Masayang grupo ito, ngayon lang nagsama-sama sa Iskwelahang Munti ni Ellen. Hahaha!
Nasaan na yung dalawang kaklaseng nagsit-in, absent pa rin? Baka nag-AWOL na?
tongue,
hahaha, nadale mo. nag-AWOL na nga ata yung mga DEFENDERS of JOHN RAT. natakot ang mga yun na bumuga ng cal 45, baka sagutin ko ng armalite.
i am tempted to dish out some more, kaya lang di ako gaya ni JOHN RAT na nakadapa na ang katunggali eh tinatadyakan pa rin. but i’m just waiting for mohan and zaruk to fire those intellectually dishonest lines of defense again and you’ll see what happens.
by the way, according to a very reliable source (old hands) binaril(NIRATRAT) pala yan si JOHN RAT ng isang tauhan nya sa isang unit nya dati. unfortunately, di sya ang namatay kundi isang tropa na inosente. tragis talaga to si JOHN RAT, first time nagbuwis ng buhay, ibang tao pa.
sulbatz,
Maayong buntag! grabe, aga nyo pa ring gumising. Holiday ngayon sa Singapore, siyempre pag holiday office holiday na rin ako. Tindi mo. Naalala ko a few years back na bumisita ako sa isang marines detachment sa Palawan may pinakilala sa kin EM para samahan ako sa Sabang – underground river, eh dalawa pwedeng daan dun, via pumpboat (easy way) or cross country (through the forest on foot) dun kami sa forest dumaan. Sobra, uphill, downhill, may footbridge pa, mamamatay na yata ako sa pagod running pace pa yung EM, nung pinilit ko nang magpahinga talaga (hindi na kaya) tinanong niya ako kung ilang taon pa lang ako hiyang hiya talaga ako nung nalaman ko din yung edad niya, almost 50 na, eh mga 30 anyos pa lang ako nun. Pagbalik nag pumboat na kami, tapos dinala niya ako saan puwedeng kumain ang baboy ramo and usa. Tagal ko nang hindi nakabalik dun.
jug,
mas matindi ka pala kay JOHN RAT. given the same route, siJOHN RAT ay sasakay sa loob ng tangke, magdadala ng isang batalyong security at syempre, may tigadala rin ng fine dining at red wine. pero sa totoo lang, di pa nasubukan ni JOHN RAT ang ganyang klaseng lakaran. aircon boy yun. kaya nga kailangan nyang ibenta ang mga kasamahan nya para lang umangat.
tama ka nga jug…pinuntahan ko yung site ng “defenders”. tragis, di ako namatay sa labanan pero dun ata ako mamamatay sa tawa. buti na lang, nasuka lang ako sa inis. iisang tao lang yung mga nag-comment dun. gusto mong ibuking ko kung sino…..hahahahahah
Juggy;
Pre,grabe ka naman inamin mong ashmatic ka hehehe!biro lang.Siguro pag basketball ay hindi ka hihingalin.Ako rin ay hindi ko na kaya iyan.Noong kabataan ko inaakyat ko ang mga bundok sa Zambales,kayang-kaya kung lakarin ang 20 miles lalo na pag may hinahabol akong usa at baboy ramo na nakatakbo pa dahil nadaplisan lang ng bala.Mahilig akong mag-hunting noon mga guide ko ay mga italyanong kulot,pinapana na nila at naghihinayang sa bala tutal daw sabi ni patil ay mamamatay rin iyun.
sulbatz;
Bilib ako doon sa inuulam ninyong tinarget na asin.hehehe!
sulbatz;
Tiga saan ba itong si Martir.Ilocano ba ito? Kung Ilokano ito may kasabihan sila na “Awan Kasinsin,kasinsin ta no botom nabisin”
mohan,
ano na? bakit hindi mo masagot ang mga tanong ko?
is this because you and martir are one and same person?
i once served the army but i did know the feeling of my fellow soldiers belonging to another outfit.
i abhor the idea loathed around by any swell headed fools that in the armed service there is so called “the more preferred ones”.
there is no navy/marines. there is no air force. and there is no army. we are one and same. SOLDIERS of the filipino people.
“is IT because you and martir are one and same person?”
i abhor the idea blobbed around by any swell headed fools that in the armed service there is so called “the more preferred ones”.
cocoy,
sa manila yan pinanganak si JOHN RAT. di ko lang sigurado pero parang bacolod ang roots nya. Anong ibig sabihin ng ilocano mo cocoy. Ang naintindihan ko lang eh “awan ti bayag” pag sinasabi ng mga tropa sa likod ni JOHN RAT.
May isa pa kaming ulam dito…SARDEMET (sardinas din)
sulbatz,
buti nga kung ganu’ng sasakay sa tangke.
eh, kung magpakargang sakay sa duyan na parang isang dayang dayang na meron pang kaagapay na tagapaypay?
ahihihihih!
pareng cocoy,
‘yung target (asin) ay nauso lamang sa combat operations dahil wala ng ‘yung C ration.
sulbatz, meron pa bang pinapabaon sa inyong C ration kapag may operation?
Mrivera,
don’t expect JOHN RAT to engage you in any mental calisthenics. He is incapable of any intellectual discourse. He is known in the marines as somebody who blows his top to cover up for his bankruptcy in arguments. Nambabato pa nga yan ng bote ng ketsup at nagsisisigaw na parang babae pag di na nya masagot ang mga discussions. Nakapamaywang pa….hehehehehe.
Mohan buddy….c’mon, make my day!
Mrivera,
Once in a blue moon na lang ang Crats namin. Nirerelease lang ng mga ulol sa GHQ kung kailan malapit ng mag-expire. Di namin malunok. Ang tawag nga ng mga kano sa biscuits dun sa Crats eh “Jesus Christ”. Kasi nga naman, napapasigaw sila ng “Jesus Christ” sa sobrang tigas at kunat.
Pero masaya naman ang mga alagang manok at aso ng mga tropa…Crats ang pagkain nila.
Akalain nyo bang ang gamit naming pantapal sa gunshot wounds eh KOTEX at MODESS na lang ngayon. Kaya tuloy mga misis namin eh nagdududa na samin….hehehehehe
okey ‘yan, ah.
kotex at modess? pantapal sa sugat? buti sana kung sugat ng tuli.
pero teka. dapat BELTLESS ‘yan, ha?
buti nga kayo, class ang pantapal sa sugat. kami noon PASADOR!
tongue,
‘yan ang kagandahan sa mga dating hindi man naging magkasama ay iisa ang damdamin sa paglilingkod sa bayan.
parepareho na ang likaw ng bituka, madali pang magkaintindihan lalo’t sa tama ang ipinaglalaban.
ang tawag kasi sa amin ay mga “mess kit”.
kaya walang ipinagkaiba, huwag lang katulad nina martir, the rat.
Nakakatawa talaga, pag nandun sila Gringo, Red Kapunan sa ‘cademy lahat kami nun pumupunta sa auditorium, si Biazon, mga tac-o, except itong si John Rat. Nawawala siya sa mga panahong ito, nagtatago, bakit kaya.
May kababayan nga ako, binol-out niya sa harap ng madaming tao, may dala pa namang M16, nung paalis na si JR kinasa niya, galit na galit si tac-o! Kaya ayun ilang buwan lang, dismiss sa conduct yung kadete. Sa awa ng diyos nasa petroleum company na si kababayan ngayon sa US of A, pero panay “PI” pa rin nung binalita ko yung promotion ni JR, niloko ko pa nga, galing mo pa ring mag PI, lets hear your gademit and your salamabitch, marunong pa rin. Baka nga “Ilonggo” yan si JR eh, ang term dun “AGI!”
sulbatz,
Pero kapatid, hindi mo talaga ma deny “snappy” yan pagdating sa uniporme, from the shoes na wet look, pants na matulis ang creases, shined lahat ang metal parts, pati sombrero naka tilt ng konti sa harap, hindi mo na halos makita ang mata – iyun lang ang hindi ko talaga makalimutan sa kanya. Ilang oras kaya yun nasa harap ng salamin? hehehe
jug,
may kapilyuhan ka rin ano? Pati ba naman yun eh napapansin mo? Tragis, akala ko pati manicure at pedicure babanggitin mo pa. Sabihin na lang natin na PORMAtic sya at member ng CAMERA CONSCIOUS CLUB….hehehehhehe
nakakahiya na kay ate ellen. puno na sa comments tong issue nya kay JOHN RAT. baka ma-break na natin ang record. Background pa lang ni JR ang sinusulat natin and that’s only 5%. Di pa nga tayo nag-uumpisa sa mga achievements nya kuno. Mohan buddy….nasaan ka na. Make my day para maibulatlat ko na ang “achievements” ni “defender of the constitution” (bwarrrkkk)aka JOHN RAT.
Naamoy yata nina mohan at Zaruk na maraming bala ang sasalagin nila. Kay juggernaut pa lang, kinakapos na. Dumating pa si SULBATZ.
Kakainip naman. Sana sagutin na nila ang mga tirada (kung kaya nila).
Mrivera,
Napansin mo, palaging palagi niyang tinatanong “so there’s a plot?” Sa pagka alam ko ang pwede lang sigurong magdefend at pumuri dyan kay JR ay si Dolorfino at sarili niya.
jug,
Ano ba naman yung “Defenders” forum na yon, e magdadalawang taon na since last post, tama ba ako? Hindi ba kinilabutan yung mga nag post dun? Yon lang, tama ako dahil natawa ako…hehe
buhawi,
Sabi nga ni sulbatz iisa lang ang nagpopost dun eh, sino kaya?
jug,
madali lang hulaan kasi kakaunti lang naman nasa paligid ni JR at iisa ang mga tabas nila. Pero hayaan na natin kasi hindi naman sila kasali sa topic. Kaso, gaya ng sinabi ni SULBATZ, maging record breaker ata sa postings itong thread na ito pero wala pa yung “achievements” na request ko.
Ulitin ko nalang….mohan/zaruk, “request permission for you to reveal those accomplishments, sirs!”
Ka Enchong,
Mga tirada nga kung tatawagin pero FACTUAL yan. Di gaya ni JOHN RAT na mahilig mag-perjure at plagiarise…..hehehe
Kaya nga hinihintay kong sumagot si mohan buddy para ma-expose na yung mga tinatagong buto sa closet ni JOHN RAT.
Teaser….May award na OAM (Outstanding Achievement Medal) si JOHN RAT dahil kuno sa mga doctrines na isinulat nya. Pero may isang lasennggong officer ng unit nya na nagki-claim na sya raw ang gumawa. Pero sa totoo lang, plagiarized work yun kasi copy-paste lang nila sa doctrines ng US and other foreign services. ACHIEVEMENTS my ass….bwaaarrrrkkkk
mohan buddy, c’mon make my day!
Yung LVTHs na sinasabi ni mohan magagamit lang pala yun as “urban assault vehicles” or pang anti-coup, hindi yata ideal sa field operations, pang siyudad lang. Sinong gigyerahin niya dito sa Manila mga reporters?
jugg (RR, ikaw ba ‘yan?)
Pansin ko rin ‘yun. Was he/ were they just waiting for a confirmation from people in this blog para gamiting ebidensya o counter-argument? Baka pag may sumagot ng “yes” i-label na isang terrorist website and Ellenville.
SULBATZ,
Coming from down south, straight from the battlefield, there’s no doubt that you’re dishing out FACTS- kaya nga siguro biglang balik sa isang sulok ng opisina nila yung mga yun e.
Ka Enchong,
Malamang na i-label nga nilang terrorist website tong blog ni ate ellen. Ganyan ka-praning ang mga kampon ni esperon at JOHN RAT.
Ang usapan nga dito sa mindanao, si gen miranda at col querubin eh hindi naman nag-coup. Ang nag-coup ay si JOHN RAT against his own commander para lang ma-justify ang 1017 ni gloria. ang akala kasi ng mga to eh tanga kaming mga sundalo. nakalimutan nilang may tv rin dito at may celfons pa. Masarap talaga uminom ng tanduay kung ang pulutan si esperon at si JOHN RAT.
So Martir is a coward and a rat and all? A wife beater and the butt of all jokes in the Marine Corps? Ellen, you have this in high authority? That you people judge a person in this manner as if you’ve ever been in his shoes. Second hand news and information solicited from sources whose agendas differ from him. Add to that, you people glorify Trillanes. The man who said so many times that he’s willing to sacrifice his life but chickened out the second time? Twice when they had all the advantage in the initial assault in a very good defensive position! With a very decorated general in the person of Lim with them! Anyway. You can find Martirs rebuttal here: http://timawa.net/forum/index.php/topic,10587.0.html
Now let’s see if you can enliven the discussion there.
Sulbatz;
Ang ibig sabihin sa ilokano.Pag si manoy ang nagalit at nanigas kahit sa kuweba ng pinsan ay susuutin ang butas.Manila boy pala itong si Jon rat kaya hindi sanay sa gubat.Barbero ata ito ng mga marines.Naalaala ko ng bumisita ako sa naval training center at pinagmamasdan ko iyung mga bagong dating sa booth camp na bumababa ng bus napansin ko si master chief na pinaghihiwalay niya ang mga may dalang mga samsonite at sinabi niya sa akin na after 6 weeks ay gagawin silang tunay na lalaki hindi ko na gets noong una kung ano ang ibig niyang sabihin dito ko lang pala malalaman sa inyo ang kasagutan ngayong wala na ako sa serbisyo.Hehehehe!
“So Martir is a coward and a rat and all?”
hindi naman sinasabing talagang siya ay duwag kundi matapang kapag walang laban at hindi lumalaban ang kanyang binabanatan sa harap ng alam niyang kanyang kakampi at kakulay.
ma’am Ellen,
Masarap ang usapan dito. Baka pwede ka kumuha ng sponsor para real time na naka display itong thread na ito sa TV…hehe. Pustahan tayo kung magkatutoo, tatargetin’ ni JR ang TV sa harap niya!
Nahihiya pumasok si JR dito, eto cut & paste ko nalang reaction niya sa forum na yon under the handle “mblt6”:
“this was expected since the group of lim and querubins court martial starts officially january next year and i’m going to be a major witness against them. Really pathetic and false accusations. they got a front in the name of francisco catibayan to object to my confirmation he backed out the last minute and mrs querubin took his place. Though I really liked wat Sen Biazon manifested in my behalf when he said quote ” I have known BGen martir since he was a captain when i was still the Commandant of the Marine Corps and he is known as an institutional man who would defend the institution and the constitution with his life. He has proven this time and time again ” un quote. Now why doesn’t the author Ellen Tordesillas write that she was there. she was also pestering me with questions after my deferment with questions like why did you stop the movement of marine units marching to join trillanes at peninsula. I said they were under my orders and were not marching to join trillanes but to attack him. Misinformation, betrayal and Character Assasinations are the forte of coup plotters – beware of plotters and malaya is thier voice. BTW that marine who was asked to turn into a state witness – he approached us for help for his release from detention by just saying sorry to us. We adviced him to tell the truth in court martial proceedings – he said no because it tantamounts to squealling on querubin. According to him Squealling on a fellow marine is a higher crime than joining a coup plot (sounds like the Mafia Code). Such distorted values and absence of honor i must say a person that has no place in our honorable Corps.
The writer gets her info from those in marines detention of which i have more field duty than any of them except gen miranda. Querubin lost 4 years of service due to involvement in the 1989 coup in hiding and imprisonment until given amnesty and another year and half due to the 2006 aborted coup and still there. we don’t do surveys in the marine corps for the commanders popularity were not elected we gauge this in time of crisis and battle. my marines followed me in 2006 and 2007 peninsula seige. He experience 5 coups and munities and lost 4 – i also had 5 and won 4 all on government side. a joke evolved in our pma class that when a coup is brewing always see where querubin would side and join the opposite and you’re sure to win. the 2 ground commanders that assaulted peninsula hotel was a marine a pnp-Saf both classmates of querubin”.
buhawi,
thanks sa cut and paste….hahahahaha. i want to die laughing.
sendero-escuro,
thanks also for firing the first shot.
1. JOHN RAT having more field duty over those officers in Tanay—- He must be referring to the lt belinda ferrer, the lone female detainee. lamang talaga sya dun. But is he referring to Gen Miranda, Col Querubin, col deleon, lcol parcon and lcol segumallian? Tell that to the marines!!! More field duty my ass…ask any marine if JOHN RAT is telling the truth. Better yet, dig up the records. Come on JOHN RAT, we never saw you here in mindanao when the going got tough.
sendero-escuro,
2. Ate Ellen getting second-hand information—-c’mon, this SULBATZ speaking, not ate ellen. Every marine knows JOHN RAT inside and out. Nobody, except his few sycophants that you can count with your fingers, speak highly of him. Mahiya naman sya, gamit nya pang handle ang MBLT6 as if he owns that unit. Nasusuka na ang mga marino dun. pati sila napapahiya.
sendero-escuro,
3. JOHN RAT won 4 out of 5 fights—–cmon, he never won anything because there never was a fight. Even if there was a fight, he was never there but somewhere in some corner hiding and sulking. He takes credit for what others did. That’s the height of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY.
Hello to all the “Philippine Defense” forumers and para kay MBLT6 na rin:
I don’t believe you’re not reading this forum. I dare you all to enter and join us in this forum. JR, kunwari ka pa, aminim mo na nasasaktan ka magbasa dito kaya sa iba mo binato ang reaction mo.
sendero-escuro,
4. JOHN RAT known as an institutional man—–we don’t question the statement of senator biazon. Anyway, that’s how JOHN RAT has fashioned himself to be. But have you ever heard him denounce the cheating in mindanao with the participation of a few criminal elements in the AFP? Did it not destroy the AFP as an institution? NOw JOHN RAT, cmon say something about it and prove that you are really for the preservation of institutions. Tragis, CONSTITUTION na natin ang niyurakan, di ka pa kumikibo. Dahil ba sa duwag ka? You only use INSTITUTIONS and CONSTITUTION for your convenience. Isa ka ring NISTA gaya ng KUMONISTA….OPPORTUNISTA nga lang.
“Sa pagka alam ko ang pwede lang sigurong magdefend at pumuri dyan kay JR ay si Dolorfino at sarili niya.”
sa palagay ko naman, kahit isang gunggong at kalahati itong si dolorfino hindi niya ipagtatanggol ang katulad ng isang dagang estero tulad ni martir dahil siguradong mapapahiya siya.
alam niyang marami ang nakakaalam sa tunay na pagkatao este pagkadaga ni martir.
“Isa ka ring NISTA gaya ng KUMONISTA….OPPORTUNISTA nga lang.”
akala ko ba FASHIONISTA?
kaya sa bi n’yo oras ang binibilang sa harap ng salamin bago humarap kanino man?
JR said, “I have more field duty than any of them except gen. miranda”. Anong klaseng field duty kaya ginawa? Pa-kuyakuyakuy at pa-porma siguro. Maski ang sabi ay “anyone of them”, tinumbok kaagad si Col. Querubin. Hoy JR, mahiya ka ng magdamag, huwag mong ikumpara ang sarili mo sa mistah mo kasi malayo ka! Yung anti-coup mo lang ang panlaban mo but that is widely debatable. Ang pag usapan natin dito ay ang “factual” accomplishments, gets mo sir??
sendero-escuro,
5. Character assasination daw ang ginagawa sa kanya—–I beg to disagree. JOHN RAT has no character to assasinate in the first place. The very reason why he has to put up a blog or site or whatever to prop up his reputation is precisely because he has to build his own character (bwaarrrkkk) and can’t wait for others to do it for him. JOHN RAT, you don’t build character and service reputation overnight. You missed the chance to do it thru blood, sweat and tears out there in the field where the real fighting is. Now you want to catch up by trampling other marines and by licking the boots of esperon and the ass of gloria. Cmon JOHN RAT, try again next.
MORE FIELD DUTY than anybody else daw sa mga seniors namin dun sa Tanay. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
jug,
paki-edit na lang po ng mga post ko. bagsak kasi ako sa english pero 98 naman sa spanish. Pakitanong na rin kay JOHN RAT kung anong grade nya sa spanish….hehehehe
Sulbatz, I don’t know you. But you seem to claim yourself to be in the service? Which one?
sendero-escuro,
why don’t you ask JOHN RAT (if you are not him) if a marine shot at him in the field. That’s character and leadership for you.
‘psang-alaw! yun na nga sinasabi ko e, OPPORTUNIST lang yan! Inconsistent! Kung saan siya makakita ng butas baka may pag asang maging CPMAR. Kung pwede lang ibalik ang panahon, dapat hindi nyo nalang inakay yan noon e! May alam akong kuwento nung dumating yan galing AWOL…nakakahiya! Huwag nalang ibunyag dito kasi hindi ako RAT.
The site was not put up for JR as you call him. The site is no more pro-government than it is anti-government. Please do not mistake it as so. It is more in the lines of being pro-military, being apolitical, although it’s members does hold various and often conflicting POV’s. One thing though, left-wing BS is not tolerated, not by the forum, but by the members who may lean mostly to the right-wing political spectrum.
sendero_escuro,
much as i want to answer your question, i would better refer you to JOHN RAT to part with some of his intelligence money to find out who i am. maraming pera sa intelligence yan si JOHN RAT. kung saan saan ang sources. Di nga lang alam ni Sir dolorfino na may pera pala si JOHN RAT. Kaysa naman gamitin pa yan ng daga sa pambili ng red wine, spa at paninira sa mga seniors namin sa Tanay, gamitin mo na lang para alamin kung sino ako.
pero napansin mo ba sendero, kahit yung sa tanay binanatan nya kasi alam nyang di makalaban dito sa forum na to. Ganyan ang karakter ng JOHN RAT na yan. sabihin mo sa kanya, ako ang harapin nya. kahit magtago pa sya sa ibang pangalan. laban kami issue for issue. hwag nya lang babanggitin na mas marami syang field duty at nakakasuka.
Sulbatz – LoL! I am not your Juan Ratones as you so lovingly call him. Rest assured, I am a certified coward. Specially from lean, mean Marines such as you.
buhawi,
may alam din akong kwento tungkol dyan sa pagdating ni JHON RAT galing sa AWOL nya. naikwento sakin ng senior ko dito sa basilan. give me time, aalamin ko lang buong kwento at ibabanggit ko rito.
basta ang natatandaan ko lang, yung iba atang naroon sa Tanay na ipinakulong nya ay ang mga marino na nagsundo sa kanya sa airport para tulungan sya makatayo ulit sa sariling mga paa.
i must admit that i don;t really know the whole story, pero wait lang kayo. may inuman mamaya, bulatlatin ko ang kwento….heheheheh
sendero,
Welcome! Would you mind pitching in for mohan and zaruk? They simply went kapput or must have vented their defenses in that Philippine Defense forum using different handles. If you happen to know them, paki kaladkad naman sila dito kasi we want to discuss “facts” with them.
SULBATZ,
Fight!
sendero-escuro,
i’m really very sorry if i mistook you for JOHN RAT. i must have been carried away by the topic. no offense meant. and please don’t be afraid of lean and mean marines because their hearts are as soft as can be especially to the citizens whom we pledged to serve. (don’t count john rat in)…sorry, just can’t help it.
sendero, there is such a thing as APOLYTICAL and NON-PARTISAN. I beg to disagree with you that we in the military should be APOLITICAL because all our orders, missions and actions emanate from political decisions. Therefore, it is incumbent upon us to be politically aware for us to be able to do our job properly. However, NEVER should be the members of the AFP display nor act in a PARTISAN manner. That when and where the problem begins. When Esperon and his ilk showed and acted PARTISANSHIP in 2004, all hell broke loose. We, the majority of well-meaning members of the Armed Forces felt disgraced and humiliated up to this point in time because those who sullied our reputation were never brought to justice.
If JOHN RAT is a CONSTITUTIONALIST and and INSTITUTIONALIST as he wants himself and others to believe, now is the time to show it. The will of the people had been subverted in 2004 and the Constitution was disgraced by the very people he wants to doggedly protect. Otherwise, he is just an OPPORTUNIST.
…at kilala ko mga seniors mo diyan, damn fighting Marines! The best in the field plus the Tanay boys.
CONSTITUTIONALIST: belief in constitutional government.
Does JR believe he is serving a constitutional government? Is he really defending the constitution?
INSTITUTIONALIST: belief in the merits of established customs and systems.
Did JR do something to protect the institution he is supposedly protecting when it was utilized by ASSperon as a tool to rape our democracy?
OPPORTUNIST: somebody who takes advantage of something, especially somebody who does so in a devious, unscrupulous, or unprincipled way.
Paki refer nalang sa mga posts above kung sa tingin nyo tugma kay JR ito.
Calling tatang Biazon, sir! I admire you sir but…sorry sir!
Gen. Martir, you said in your comment in the blog referred to us by Sendero , why I didn’t write it here that I was in the hearing, may I refer you to this:
Now, I checked with my source and he said you gave the info of your “manhandling” Sen. Trillanes saying he deserves it to a congressman who is a member of the CA.
buhawi,
ang tindi mo rin ah. may definition pa. hehehe
ate ellen,
INSTITUTIONALIST na nga ata ngayon si JOHN RAT. He institutionalized LYING just like his mafia boss esperon and gloria. He even tries to hide (read lie) about some aspects in his service record. Abangan ang susunod na kabanata. Dapat ma-expose ang RATON na ito for what he is.
Cmon JOHN RAT, make my day!!! The more you talk, the more our fellow bloggers here will know who you really are. No third party information here. I know where i speak of. I know you inside out.
I am even tempted to say one detail about you which you can never dispute. But i will not go down to that level anymore. Bigyan na lang kita ng SPRITE para magpakatotoo ka.
Statement from JR: “this was expected since the group of lim and querubins court martial starts officially january next year and i’m going to be a major witness against them”.
Matagal ka ng hinihintay dun!! Isama mo na si ASSperon!!
naku hwag kau maniwala kay ellen makakaliwa yan, kawawa naman c col martin,.. Sana d maudlot ung promotion nya..I salute him Goodluck Sir..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5oLrIRoB64
jerry_crus,
nice clip! pinakamaraming medal daw sa “combat shooting”…clap! clap! clap!
Next naman show me a clip or kaya sulat mo nalang dito yung medals niya sa tunay na “combat”.
sulbatz,
LOL, squat thrust, volleyball pingpong….
sino maraming field duties???? mas mahaba pa ang “awol” ni Sirs Pitbull and Abu kesa “field duty” kuno ni JM–literally yan….
keep up the good work, ingat lagi and wag papabayaan ang ating mga Marino
regards to lt col Duh(non airborne), aka mohan aka zaruk aka maj.trobol..
remember the honor code…..
4 years as tac-o equals 4 years in borromeo field—FIELD assignment yan mga hijos, ano ba kayo, he he he
kung meron Hollywood jump sa Marine BAC, meron din siguro Hollywood Marine Officer???
Being a rat can be many things. Maraming ibig sabihin ang pagka-duwag ng isang tao. For instance, surrendering to avoid blood shed is not cowardice. Iniwasan lang nina Trillanes ang bakbakan na maaaring ikamatay ng mga civilians. Ganyan din ang ginawa noon ni Erap. At the height of his ouster move at Malacanang, his angry PSG troops were all ready to shoot the anti-Erap forces. Hinintay lang nila ang order ni Erap. Pero hindi lumaban si Erap. It also reminds me of then Gen. Ver who was seen on TV anxious to order his loyal troops to fire at the enemies at Edsa. Pero anong sabi ni Marcos? He raised his voice saying “No”. Duwag ba si Marcos at Erap? O may natitira silang pagmamahal sa bayan? Would GMA do the same? Kung lumaban sina Trillanes ay tiyak na madugo. Look at that tragic Edsa Tres. Tinira ang mga mamamayan na parang binabaril at pinapalo na parang mga manok.
hurrahhh,
hurrahh ka rin dyan, squat thrust, squat jump, pingpong, volleyball, basketball….Tzun!
Brownberry,
PUSO??? Meron ba nun si JOHN RAT MARTIR? Eh yung Commandant nya nga na si Gen Miranda na tumulong sa kanya para makabangon muli eh ipinakulong nya pa dahil sa mga perjured statement nya. Anong matatawag mo sa ganyang klaseng tao? Mas minabuti pang idepensa ni JOHN RAT MARTIR ang mga mandaraya at mandarambong. Constitutional at Institutional na daw ngayon ang pandaraya, pagsisinungaling at pagnanakaw according to JOHN RAT MARTIR.
Mohan, Zaruk, Maj Trobol,
I know you….careful, careful…..hehehhehehe
hurrah,
squat thrust! make millions! 16/60! hehehe,
4 years sa Borromeo Field, ilang 45/90/90 yun? Di ang nipis na ng combat boots nun sa ka “touring?”
jerry_crus,
Saan planeta ka ba galing? UR ANUS? Si Ellen ay hindi makakaliwa, makakanan, o makataas, makagitna, etc. kagaya namin siya ay isang MAKATAMA lang, dun kami sa tama!
mga bok,
Hope you’re using clean lines (public pc’s) don’t want to get you in trouble…Merry Christmas!!!
juggernaut, sulbatz,
pambihira naman pala tayo, oo. bottle este battle tested pala ‘yang si general colon-el martir, eh ginaganyan natin? hindi man lamang natin maigalang at mabigyang pagkilala ang kanyang mahabang combat accomplishments.
general colon-el martir, sir, how does it feel to see a dying comrade grasp his last breath while tightly holding him in your arms?
tinatanong ko lang kasi kami noon kapag pumikit na ang mata at hindi na kumikilos, ang ginagawa namin eh, kinikiliti at kapag hindi na ngumiti eh siguradong tepok na. bago nga kami lumakad sa operation ay may usapang walang mamamatay lalo’t damags at bata pa ang watiwat dahil kapag nagkataon ay ang mapapangasawang muli ang makikinabang sa death benefits.
‘yung iba, matigas ang ulo, namamatay!
pero sa totoo lang, napakasakit kuya ratty.
experienced mo ba?
Mrivera,
Ni wala nga luha yan para sa mga namatay na tauhan niya. Buti pa sila ni Gen. Lim makikita mo talagang may malasakit, kaso pinagtatawanan ng mga supporter ni Martir yung mga opisyal na iniiyakan yung mga tao nila na namatay. Siguro natutunaw ng ambisyon at pera ang puso?
Wosh just followed a link in a furom meron nga blog na ganito opss so it’s true nga puros bs crap nga dito at parang medyo useless left-leaning commies ata ah wait first five replies palang ang nababasa ko , forgive me o isa lang akong military buff aficionado at armchair general hehehe meron kasi nag post duon ng mblt6 rant of an officer blah blah. Alam ninyo sikat talaga si gen.martir sa mga military aficionado furoms kasi alam naman ninyo isa sya sa mga rare breed na officers sa afp na may talent sa pag innovate something out of the impossible given scarcely of funds particularly sa mga kagamitan pang digma some were considered dilapidated na pero na ayos at rehabilitate pa, lvt6,40mm AA, v150 ambulance,guntrucks,mmpv,upgraded v150s ..etc ang dami pa
Anu ba issue dito dahil bayan sa coup coup nayan alam naman ninyo sa record nga hindi yan mahilig sa isang bulok na coup. At sa mga legitimate issues sa alleged awol at alleged manhandling im sure he could explain naman sa next na hearing . Ang babaw nyan para hindi say ma confirmed for Brig.general ng mga corrupt na politicians.
MP.net,
To got exactly 326 more posts to read. Basa ka muna baka marami kang matutunan dito tungkol sa BOSS mo. Kung hindi ka pa makuntento, meron pang isang mas bagong thread para sa kanya. Reading is learning, di ba?
MP.net,
You are as ignorant as your Boss JOHN RAT. Copy paste mo tong sasabihin ko sa self-serving blog nya. I know where you came from. This is for your own education and the few misguided fools like you.
1. If taxpayers ask JOHN RAT and make him accountable for AWOL, that doesn’t make them a commie.
2. If taxpayers ask JOHN RAT where he stands on the issue of cheating in the elections and using the AFP for such, that doesn’t make anyone a commie.
3. If taxpayers ask JOHN RAT whether he received his pay and allowances while on AWOL, that doesn’t make them a commie.
4. If taxpayers ask JOHN RAT why he falsified and perjured affidavits and other documents, that doesn’t make them a commie.
5. JOHN RAT’S scrap anti-aircraft guns is of no use in the battlefield. that’s a waste of taxpayer’s money. Ikaw MP.net, gagamitin mo ba yun sa gyera. Ulol ka pag sinagot mo ng OO. Ibig sabihin BOBO ka at wala kang alam sa security situation.
6. JOHN RAT’S LVT’S are next to useless because there is no more platform for which it could be launched like LST’s. Besides, it leaks. Papatayin mo ba ang mga MARINO. Ask any marine kung may mangangahas pang sumakay sa LVT ni JOHN RAT martir. Ulol ka pala. Palibhasa wala kang alam. Again, it is a waste of taxpayer’s money.
7. JOHN RAT’S V-150’s are not his and it will run whether he is there or not. Sarhento lang pwede ng patakbuhin yan. Di na kailangan ang utak ng isang heneral gaya ni JOHN RAT. Baka ang ibig mong sabihin eh tumakbo yung V150 dahil nakabili ng ECU (Electronic Control Unit) si JOHN RAT. Ulol ka pala. Pinagkaperahan yun ni Martir kasi hindi dumaaan sa bidding at overpriced. Besides, yung dealer nun is dubious at walang pananagutan. Gusto mo ng records tungkol dyan MP.net? Pag-untogin ko kayo ni JOHN RAT dyan. Again, it is not only a waste of taxpayer’s money, but also defrauding the taxpayers.
Sige MP.net…umalma ka pa. Ipost mo tong mga sinabi ko dun sa blog ni JOHN RAT MARTIR kung matapang ka. Konti pa lang yan.
Ebidensya ba kailangan mo? Maghintay ka lang. Lalabas lahat yan.
Mga bugok kayo!!! parepareho lang kayo ni esperon at gloria. mga magnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan. Mas masahol pa kayo sa KUMUNISTA
MP.net,
Where do you intend to use JOHN RAT’S AA guns and LVT’s? Against civilian demonstrators? Yan ang palaging bukambibig nya nun.
Your Mafia Boss JOHN RAT has never really experienced kung papano makipagpatayan sa tunay na kalaban kaya ang utak nya eh pang-hollywood. Citizens of the Republic, beware of these kinds of lapdogs. But rest assured that majority of the members of the Marines will not allow that.
kapatid,
Kool ka lang. Nenerbiyos tuloy si MP.net, alam mo namang ang gara ng mga gear niyan na pang “airsoft!” Pag nagsalita pa mga yan about skirmishes talo pa mga totoong beterano sa giyera, may pa “close quarter combat” pa yan at kung anu-ano pang kaek-ekan. Who uses the word “commie” nowadays?
MP.net, ibahin mo ang mga afficionados sa mga bugo-bugo, tanong mo kay John Rat yan para maintindihan mo.
MP.net,
Hinahamon ka ni SULBATZ! Mag cut n’ paste ka raw from here to there or everywhere saan mo gusto. Ako nag cut n’ paste na ako dito galing sa inyo…sige, ikaw naman! Antayin ko yan ha, dalaw ako sa self serving site nyo! I’m interested to read the rebuttal of JRAT and his minions.
Siyanga pala, nabasa mo na ba ang boung thread? Hindi ka ba kinilabutan sa BOSS mo?
Sulbatz said:6. JOHN RAT’S LVT’S are next to useless because there is no more platform for which it could be launched like LST’s. Besides, it leaks. Papatayin mo ba ang mga MARINO. Ask any marine kung may mangangahas pang sumakay sa LVT ni JOHN RAT martir.
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All that remains to be done is to replace the seals and the bilge pumps and your read to go. If you are really in the service — you should know the next development in this regard. 😉
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Sulbatz said:
JOHN RAT’S V-150’s are not his and it will run whether he is there or not. Sarhento lang pwede ng patakbuhin yan. Di na kailangan ang utak ng isang heneral gaya ni JOHN RAT.
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Of course they are not his. The V-150s, LVTs, etc., all belong to the PMC. What IS his, is the initiative and the leadership that moved all these projects forward.
Since binabasura mo naman ang lahat ng project ni BGEN Martir, so . . . useless rin pala yung pag hanap niya ng paraan na maibalk ang mga Oto Melara howizters na pinabayaan na lang ng mga predecessors niya?
If these achievements were really so routine . . . then why did he have so much to do?
buhawi said:
Siyanga pala, nabasa mo na ba ang boung thread? Hindi ka ba kinilabutan sa BOSS mo?
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Actually ang mas nakakakilabot ay ang mga kalaban dito ni BGEN Matir.
Mas importante pa sa inyo ang loyalty sa kapwa marino, kaysa bansa. BGEN Martir stood up against marines who were going to violate their oaths to the country — so you label him a “traitor”.
We paid for your salaries and training, and you have the gall to say that you will side with your buddies — kahit MALI ang ginagawa nila. Loyalty to your peers, instead of loyalty to the constitution. Tsk tsk tsk. Sinayang ang pera ng bayan.
zaruk,
For all intents and purposes matagal ng hindi marino si Martir. Umalis na siya sa service for two years (na walang maayos na paalam). Anong loyalty to buddies ang sinasabi mo, matagal na nyang pinaghandaan to, opportunista nga. If yung pag tinker-tinker sa motorpool gusto nyang gawin mag mechanic na lang siya o civilian contractor? At least that way “legal” ang ginagawa nyang kumikita sa mga projects na yun, that is, kung tingin ng corps viable talaga yun without an officer giving it priority.
Tama yung blogger from Korea, he is another Gen Garcia in the making.
He had so much to do because takot na takot siya sa field duty. Takot siya sa mga kapwa marino. Alam mo naman siguro anong ginagawa sa mga ahas sa gubat? Sumama ka sa kanya kung gusto mo. Ask Martir who paid for his vacation in the US of A? Palibhasa isa kang walang alam! MATO! (alam mo ba ibig sabihin nun? ask Martir).
Yes, the next development is Martir collecting his commission from the parts supplier, regularly. Foolproof plan na sana, para sa mga laxitibo na kagaya mo. MATITY thy name is hijo!
Zaruk,
Gago ka pala, hindi mo sinagot ang tanong ko. Kaya mo bang sakyan yang LVT mo kasama si JOHN RAT at isusuka ng LST sa gitna ng dagat? May sasama kaya sainyong mga tropa? Kung di mo magawa yan, nagsayang ka lang ng pera.
May nag-request na ba samin dito sa mindanao na magpadala kayo ng LVT? Ulol, wala kasi wala ring pakinabang yan.
Sa Fuel pa lang, uubusin na nyan ang buong allocation ng Marines. Saan mo gagamitin ang LVT mong yan aber. Pinagkaperahan nyo lang ang rehab nyan. Parang ikaw, rehab din.
Yung V150, kahit wala si JOHN RAT MARTIR tatakbo yan kaasi naka-program na lahat ng maintenance nyan. Ang mahirap lang dyan kay JOHN RAT eh yung dealer na kinuha nya eh walang pananagutan kung masira ang ECU. Wala pang bidding. Sagutin mo nga yan.
Ikaw JOHN RAT MARTIR, wala ka ng ibang binanggit kundi ANTI-COUP ka. Tragis ka, ANTI-COUP ka nga pero PRO-CHEATING, PRO-LYING at PRO-STEALING ka naman. Mas Masahol ka pa sa Komunista. Magsama-sama na kayo ni gloria esperon.
Sagutin mo nga yung awol mo!!!! Hindi yung puro anti-coup mo dyan.
JOHN RAT MARTIR, let me remind you that YOU ARE A DESPICABLE DESERTER from the service. Ngayon mo sasabihin na mahal mo ang marines??? Nasaan ka nung nagkakamatayan kami sa gyera??
Juggernaut(mahilig ka pala sa x-men)
Bro tama ka mahilig ako sa airsoft at isang certified armchair general sa mga furoms wala naman akong sinabi na higit pa ah.,but don’t mistake me for an ignorant full baka naka hawak ka lang ng baril nung pumasok ka na sa service ako wala pa ako high school sawa na ako sa .45 cal kaya airsoft nalang ako ngayun lahat ng bahay siguro dito may mahahaba di tulad dyan sa Luzon at hindi big deal yan kaya wag kang masyadong mayabang dyan .
Kaya ko lang na sabi na left leaning commies dahil anu ba yan tingnan mu ang mga first posters ,may Gabriela pa dude I cant help it they are really annoying they sounds like those you saw in tv news, rally duon , rally dyan anu ba yan nakaka peste na yan. I bet they are the same ones who put gma in power now they ranting like hell hindi ma satisfied ang ma nga yan ika nga mga radical. Lately below meron mga posters who sounds and appears to be in the service maybe isa ka duon , in that case mag Sir pala ako sa kanila dapat dahil malaki naman ang respeto ko sa mga sundalo kahit anu pa man , pero mukang hindi tama ang lahat ng sinasabi nito ah, no1 fundamental error sir hindi ko boss si john rat or what ever you called him maybe idol ko lang si gen. martir and in my opinion dapat sya ma confirm sa rank na Brig.Gen., no2 im not a fun of President Gma in fact si lacson nga binoto ko last election no3 bakit masyadong galit at high blood ka kung mag salita ,Don’t tell me na hawa kana sa iba dito at nagging radical na ang utak or talagang may post traumatic stress syndrome ka na or na war shock ka na dyan, kaya mu yan as you claimed sundalo ka kaya mu yan bro fucos mu lang yan utak mu. Hindi solution yan coup coup na yan, sabihin mu may good intensions kayo para sa bansa alam mu, THE PATH TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS ika nga.
Allow me to refresh your mind diba may polsci naman kayo sa PMA ba or anung university ka nakapag tapos. Sir
The President’s term in office expires
The President dies.
The President resigns.
The President is impeached by the House of Representatives, convicted by the Senate.
The President becomes permanently incapacitated.
Yan lang ang democratic na paraan para mawala sa puwesto si president GMA
Malapit na ang 2010 kaya wag na kayo pagamit dyan sa mga magugulong leftlist hindi yan ma satified kahit anu pang gawain ng government natin o kahit anung government sa mundo.
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ito isang simple view point lang ng isang dakilang hobbyist
about sa mga upgraded at rehabilitated armor at weapon system ng cssb wag mong sabihin hindi nagagamit ang ma nga yan rotated sa field tulad nalang ng mga upgraded gun trucks combat proven yan diba. With the exception ng lvt at ng aa guns at howitzer hindi yan pang parade lang or pang gyera sa mga demonstrators alam mu siguro yan sir isa sa mga mission ng pmrf ay ang anti coup urban combat.
maybe very prepared lang si gen martir sa combine arms tactics at fire support kahit air threats hindi pinalampas malay mu may stupidong t-28 or ov-10 na misguided they wont need to call for f4 phantom kay uncle sam for airsupport tulad nung dati or in case may unauthorized movement or deployment na misguided units kaya nga siguro deter, compel, retaliate ang motto , siguradong mahihirapan ang mga messianic misguided fools na kumilos kung meron man.
Hay peace na nga mery x-max nalang sa inyo at puwede ba bumili ka na ng calci –block at baka atakin ka sa puso sana hindi ka pa paranoid dyan.
Merry Christmas din sa yo MP.net!
Para sa min, ang motto ni Martir, relax, pa-isnap, at humiga sa pera (from suppliers) hehehe…
Hindi na uso ang “commies” pakana lang yan ng mga kumikita sa protracted low intensity conflicts (may pera kasi dyaan). At kung nakilala mo si Martir up close and personal, pati ikaw pare, kaya niyang ibenta.
Yun lang, MATOPAKNER.net
MP.net,
merry christmas na rin lang sayo….hahaha
nabola ka nga ni JOHN RAT.
may mga combined arms tactics pang sinasabi si john rat sayo. pakitanong nga kung nagamit na nya ang tactics na yan o hanggang theory lang sya.
sana mag-meet tayo MP.net. i will give you a better education, both theory and practice.
Hindi ko na kailangan na calci-bloc at regular ako sa Fitness First hehehe. Yung iniisip ko lang ang mga sundalong nasa serbisyo pa na madisgrasya gawa ng mga opisyal na walang alam na si John Rat! Yung sumusunod sa regulations kung paano mag leave, kahit halos hindi na nila makita mga pamilya nila at yung hindi nagwawala na parang binabae kung nadefer ang confirmation, hehehe…
MATOPAKNER.net,
Bakit pa ba kailangan ng anti coup kung wala namang naging coup? Sino ba naman ang sumira sa Manila Pen? Sino ang nagpaputok? May the path to hell…eh paano kung at the start bad intentions na? At ano kung mas maaga ka humawak ng baril? Kahit walang gamit pwede ka pa ring bali-balian ng buto. Tanong mo kay boss John Rat mo kung ano ibig sabihin ng Major A sa judo? Wala kasi siya nun hehehe…
MATOPAKNER.net,
Kung Polsci lang ang pag-uusapan, eh nasa International Business na kaya ako? Walang silbi na ang constitution natin ngayon kasi kaya na ni Gloria at mga alipores niya na gawin kung ano ang gusto nila, democratic eh – numbers game! They have the numbers, walang democratic initiative na oobra sa kanila, not even in the courts. The law is limited in itself, at kaya paikutin ng mga magagaling at mamahaling abogago. Kaya nga may “political” realm eh? Anong ginawa nila Thoreau, Gandhi, Leo Tolstoy at Martin Luther King? Don’t tell me commies din mga to? Medyo advance pa ng konti sa Polsci 101 yan. Magbasa ka kasi, click my handle basahin from part 1 to 3 para maintindihan mo kung ano ang civil disobedience. Huwag ka masyadong magpabola kay Martir, huwag ka ring makinig sa mga Gabriela kung ayaw mo (for girls lang naman yun eh), gawin mo para sa sarili mo.
mp3, saruk,
kung gusto ninyong malaman ang tunay na pulso ng mga kawal marino, doon kayo magtanong tanong sa mga enlisted personnel kung hindi kayo kuntento sa mga isinisiwalat ng mga kapwa opisyal ni general colon-el martir.
kaming mga karaniwang kawal ang nakakadama ng bigat at gaan, ng malasakit at pag-abuso, pagpapabaya at pagwawalambahala ng mg aopisyal na katulad ni martir. isang malaking pasasalamat mula sa aming panig ang pagkakaroon ng mga pinunong katulad ng inyong sinasalungat sapagkat sila ang nagdadala sa maliwanag ng tunay na karakter ng mga katulad ng sakim at sinungaling na si martir.
Zaruk says: ” What do you make of BGEN Lim? ”
zaruk, do you know anything about bgen danny lim? his accomplishments as a junior officer? his tactical expertise when it comes to combat maneuver? his feeling of compassion towards his men? his untainted love for the country and respect to the constitution? his fearless stand in bringing the truth before the people?
if you don’t know even a bit about him, you can dig the army’s records or gather information from any army soldier, and if you do but cannot swallow the truth in his character that you may get being so much fascinated by martir’s charms, just keep your foul smelling mouth shut and keep it tucked in martir’s ass!
as a junior officer and commander of the 1st infantry (TABAK) division’s forward reconnaissance unit in jolo, sulu in early 1980’s, i knew about his encounters and accomplishments and how he was regarded highly by members of the unit who were mostly torogis.
let me ask you. as a junior officer, has martir ever experienced to be assigned in combat? as a platoon leader, perhaps? for how long?
what are the words you can hear from any of his former subordinates, his character as an officer (if he can and deserves to be called one) to be exact?
Zaruk: “Actually ang mas nakakakilabot ay ang mga kalaban dito ni BGEN Matir.
Mas importante pa sa inyo ang loyalty sa kapwa marino, kaysa bansa. BGEN Martir stood up against marines who were going to violate their oaths to the country — so you label him a “traitor”.
We paid for your salaries and training, and you have the gall to say that you will side with your buddies — kahit MALI ang ginagawa nila. Loyalty to your peers, instead of loyalty to the constitution. Tsk tsk tsk. Sinayang ang pera ng bayan
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Zaruk,
Unang una, merry christmas sa ‘yo! Salamat na rin at tinaggap nyo ang hamon ni SULBATZ na makilahok kayo dito.
Sabi mo kinikilabutan ka sa mga kalaban ni Martir dito, hindi kaya kinilabutan ka sa mga nabanggit ng mga bloggers dito? Ano naman ang nakakakilabot dito? Kinikilabutan kayo sa tutoo? Sa tutuoo lang mas nakakakilabot ang laman ng salita ng mga forumers nyo dun sa self serving na form na yon kasi imbes na they confront the issues squarely, e below the belt ang mga sagot and even stamped the bloggers here a commies! Tama ba yon?
Walang loyalty sa bansa? You had the stomach to fire those words? Hindi ka ba kinilabutan sa sinabi mo? Sino ang prinotektahan nyo, bansa o yung presidente nyong bulok at mandaraya na ugat lahat ng kaguluhang ito.
“We paid your salaries and training”. Galing sa tao yan hindi galing sa ‘yo! How about you, would you rather use your gained trainings to suppress the people and be used as a tool to rape our democracy?
MP.net says: “Allow me to refresh your mind diba may polsci naman kayo sa PMA ba or anung university ka nakapag tapos. Sir
The President’s term in office expires
The President dies.
The President resigns.
The President is impeached by the House of Representatives, convicted by the Senate.
The President becomes permanently incapacitated.
Yan lang ang democratic na paraan para mawala sa puwesto si president GMA”
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May isa pang paraan, ayon sa Korte Suprema, “constructive resignation” brought about by an incapacity to govern (due to corruption). Ginawa kay Erap, pwede din kay GMA.
Zaruk says: “BGEN Martir stood up against marines who were going to violate their oaths to the country — so you label him a “traitor”.”
zaruk, those marines your general stood up against were the marines who knew all his secrets that’s why he was head over heels determined in pinning them down and not contented yet, asked an officer to turn his back and corroborate his fabricated lies believing said officer could be bought by his deceit.
better still, for you to see how your favored general answers all the facts brought up here, kindly tell him to join here so he can personally defend himself and not hide cowardly behind people like you who blindly cover his stink.
good day!
Zaruk: FYI, I’m still waiting for your response to my 19th of Dec.’s question at 12:16 am as follows:
May I know where you buy your brain-food? I’d like to buy some for my puppy! I am hoping he will grow up to be a misguided but loyal tuta! Thank you!
How could so few be so blinded by the truth, so jaded with greed and so committed in defrauding the Filipino people?
Where do you fit? Where do you see yourself?
Me? as a regular Juan dela Cruz, knowing what I know now, I rather take my stroll in the park with Gen. Lim vis-a-vis a walk with what’s his name again? That’s what going a.w.o.l. will do….
By the way, my puppy is wishing you and your tribe a happy holidays!