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Metro Manilans do not want Estrada in prison

Public sentiment is overwhelmingly in favor of former President Estrada.

That’s the reason why Gloria Arroyo and her minions are panicking over possible public reaction on the Sandiganbyan’s verdict on Estrada’s plunder case.

Survey conducted by Social Weather Station last month showed that a high number in Greater Metro Manila do not want Estrada going to jail.

SWS asked the following questions:

1.President Arroyo has the power to grant pardon to whoever is convicted of a crime. In case the Sandigan declares Erap guilty of plunder, when should Arroyo pardon him?

Answer: 48% immediately; 38% pardon after some time;13 % not pardon.

Those who said “immediately”, 31 % from the ABC class; 47% from D; and 58 percent from E class.

2.In case the Sandigan declares Erap guilty of plunder, how many years should he serve his sentence?

Answer: 19%-one year or less; 10% – two years; 8% – three years; 4% – four years; 9% – five years; 8% – six years; 1% – 7 – 9 years; 11% – 10 years; 3% -over 10 years.

There were 13% who said he should be set free already and 4% that he be jailed for life.

3.In case the Sandigan declares Erap guilty of plunder, should he be jailed in Muntinlupa or remain in Tanay?

Answer: 82% – remain in Tanay
16% – sent to Muntinlupa

The survey, titled “Theodore” had 600 respondents in the National Capital region, Bulacan, Casvite, Laguna and Rizal.

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69 Comments

  1. ocayvalle ocayvalle

    ang dapat ikulong ay si GMA kasama lahat ang kanyang mga demonyong alagad!nakaka pagtaka,bakit kaya hanggang ngayon andyan pa sila na nag papanggap na mga lider ng mga pilipino!si abalos na kaliwat kanan puro kasamaan at kahangalan ang ginagawa sa atin ay namamayagpag pa din.halos lahat ng naka upo sa pamahalaan ay hindi binoto ng sanbayanan kundi mga pawang lukluk ni abalos gamit ang comelec mula kay PGMA,madam zubire, at mag iba pang lokal na pulitiko, muntik na ngang maka lusot ang anak ni ermita at manugang ni abalos sa binan, laguna!! i wonder what had we filipinos done to deserved this evil empire of GMA,we are catholics and we fear GOD..is this all madness we are having now care off PGMA a God test?? maybe our prayers is not enough to stop all this madness of GMA and her evil minions!! just don`t lost hope..this evil GMA and her minions will be ousted anyway!!

  2. As far as evidences prove, Erap is most probably guilty of bribery, not plunder for there has been no proof that he has looted the national treasury to deposit in foreign banks unlike what Cayetano has yet to revea.

    Erap is even short of admitting that he has received contributions from jueteng lord, Chavit Singson, that can be categorized as a bribe even when it is a common tradition for jueteng lords to pay the Malacanang occupants a share of their earnings.

    It is no secret in fact that Erap has been diverting these funds to his charitable foundations, even to one benefitting the Moslems in Mindanao for which one of his lawyers was incarcerated and threatened of being disbarred.

    If that is not injustice, what is?

  3. If Erap is guilty, he deserves to be imprisoned. But they should do the same to the Malacanang squatters, who have committed much more diabolical crimes against the Filipino people from treason, sedition, plunder to the murder and massacre of brave men in uniform. There should not be any exemption to the rule. A criminal is a criminal and he/she should be punished regardless of stature or position in the government.

    Patalsikin Na, Now Na!

  4. parasabayan parasabayan

    Off topic: Just read that Teves changed his tune in implicating Abalaos in the ZTE deal. Talaga naman! Samam sama na silang mandurugas! I hope the Senate will look into the illegal activities of this abalaos and hang him.

    Ellen, you know what might be a good project? A shooting range where the targets are the heads of tiyanak, asspweron, angge reyes, davide, ermitanyo, the two gungongzales, bunyeta and the like! The list can go on and on. Palagay ko pipilahan ito ng mga tao at patok na patok! Tapos and background ay ang “Garci Tape”! Palagay ko magiging sharp shooter tayong lahat!

  5. goldenlion goldenlion

    Gloria should be imprinsoned too if Erap will be convicted. She has more sins against the people…….folks please read Fr. Faraon article (Daily Tribune, Sept. 2, 2007, Joseph, Joma, Jonas and Joey “Cuatro de Jack”) I love it………and I guess the cheater, the liar, the thief will face the omen of letter “J”….Just in proper time, the Journey will end.

  6. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    Social Weather Station Survey should be conducted on what percentage of people wanted this evil woman jailed for the Lies, Stealing, Election Fraud, Corruption, Extra-Judicial Killings, Abductions, the Frame-Up of Marine Officers – the Marine Slaughter Beheadings.
    There is no doubt that the survey would be 100% to jail her, then hang her from the highest lamp post.

  7. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Tuliro si Finance Sec. Teves. Hindi issue kung sino ang nag-imbita sa kanila at ZTE officials. Magkano ang kanilang kinita-lagay sa $329 M misdeal? Walang delicadeza ang mga opisyales ni Gloria Arroyo. Kapit-tuko sa puwesto. Dito sa Amerika, Republican Senator Larry Craig ng Idaho nag-bitiw sa puwesto dahil sa sex scandal. Mas-matindi ang kaso ni Gloria sa Hello Garci scam. Nag-sorry lang at tapos kina-katay ang mga kalaban sa pulitika. Kapalmuks talaga!

  8. we-will-never-learn we-will-never-learn

    Lets face it, if Teves stuck to the truth he’d be the first one to do so. They can’t even get the venue of the meeting right, one said Teves residence and Teves says the golf club.
    Her face is a study, her face jerks from side to side smiling with puffed-up panda like eyes at everyone when nobody sees the joke to return the smile. Her body and hips are bigger than usual due to the body armour weighing her down and the extra absorbent diaper to assist with her many panic attacks. Thats how strong a president she is!

  9. parasabayan parasabayan

    Diego, halos lahat ng bansa na nakakaangat, yan ang ugali ng mga politiko nila. Kapag nagkasala, nagbibitiw sa puwesto nila. Yung iba, nagpapakamatay pa. Sa Pilipinas, yung mga may kasalanan sa bayan nagkakaroon pa ng mas mataas na pwesto,kayamanan at mga private army. Yung iba kaliwat kanan pa ang mga kabit at mga mansion kung saan saan. Onli in da Philippines.

  10. Jail is not a good sentence for the unano. She should be hanged. Sabi nga by the highest lamp-post.

    Even when she is given a life sentence, it can be commuted to a lesser sentence, you know, and she can be pardoned by some presidential clemency. So, the best thing really is restore the capital punishment to insure that the unano and her cahoots will not be able to make comeback, which they will surely try to do as they are shameless—kapalmuks!

  11. Pressured si Craig to resign even by his constituents in Idaho, a conservative state, which was actually established by members of our church.

    I wonder if Craig is a member of our church. If he is, he will surely undergo a church investigation and trial leading to an excommunication if he is found guilty which he surely will not deny if faced by men of God. The findings of the church, however, are not made public. Ganoon katindi, but good for disciplining truant members.

  12. parasabayan parasabayan

    Kelan ba nakinig si tiyanak sa mga surveys? She does not care about anything else but her survival. Ang alam lang niya ay puro pwersa. Parang bata na kung anong gusto, yun ang masusunod. She is trying to fight all insurgencies. On Monday, the “Hello Garci” probe starts in the Senate and before the 15th of September verdict naman ni Erap. Tignan lang nating kung saan pupulutin ang malditang surot na ito! The AFP is at its lowest morale these days.

  13. You bet, PSB, hindi iyan makikinig sa public opinion dahil ang palagay niya siya ang may-ari ng Pilipinas at lahat nang nakatira, etc. sa bansang iyan kaya kung gusto niyang ipapatay sa mga Abus, et al, walang dapat na magreklamo!

    Kawawang mga pilipino!

  14. chi chi

    Ipinagpipilitan ni Gloria ang sarili sa mga pinoy na ang turing sa kanya ay basahan! Sa puntong ito ay malamang na feces ang ibato sa kanya pag nagkaroon ng pagkakataon ang mga pinoy!

    Panic na naman ang EK. Bigtihin na ‘yang si Gloria, wala ng matinong pinoy na may simpatya sa kanya!

  15. chi chi

    Teves was caught unprepared. It’s obvious that he was ordered by Gloria to reverse his early comments. He could have resigned but he choses to remain as member of Gloria’s corrupt cabinet. What a let down but not surprising. When he joined Gloria, he should have known that he’d be one of them eventually.

    Kung kailan tumanda ay saka nagpakagago!

  16. chi chi

    typo…chose lang.

  17. Teves is such a disappointment. Spineless.

  18. florry florry

    Metro Manilans are the ones who are close to where the action is and they closely followed the case of Erap and if he still remains popular, it is because they believed that he is not guilty as charged, but persecuted. This bogus government formed this special court specifically to try and convict him.
    Erap’s case is political. That put Gloria in a catch 22 situation, damn if she does and damn if she doesn’t. If Erap is acquitted, her illegitimacy will be more pronounced. If he is found guilty, people will think that he is persecuted. If the court’s decision is based on evidence and witnesses, he will be acquitted. Can you imagine a case where you have a corrupt and criminal as a principal witness? What credibility he has to offer, if not outright lies. That alone is a goner. But if the court succumbs to pressure from malacanang and other interested parties, Erap will be found guilty. In such scenario the people will be more divided, his followers may resort to some actions and her bogus government will remain shaky and unstable. Of course we know that’s the reason why the military is deploying thousand of soldiers, including tanks and fighter planes in Metro Manila. Oh yes she again has to resort to more pampering and relying on the military and police to support her continued hang on to power. What a pathetic character!

  19. chi chi

    Magkano naman kaya ang parte ni Teves sa commission from ZTE investment? Ngayon ay kasama na rin siya sa pinagdududahan.

  20. rose rose

    Chi: At magkano naman kay Abalos? The more you lie they more you get. Bakit na lang hindi silang mahiga at manahibik ng husto..here lies the men who lies still..at tabunan sila ng kanilang kasinungalingan at tambakan ng cemento..

  21. parasabayan parasabayan

    Itong Abalaos at Teves nagtatakipan pa. Parehong in denial. Ang hindi nila alam, hindi sila habang panahong makakalusot sa mga pagnanakaw nila sa pera ng bayan. Tulad ng “Hello Garci” akala ni tiyanak lusot na siya. Eto ngayon binalikan uli ng senado. May araw ka rin Abalaos! Magnanakaw ka na, mandaraya at sinungaling pa! Huling huli na siya noon kay Zubiri ngayon magaala Palos na ZTE na linuto niya!

  22. parasabayan parasabayan

    Ano nga ba ang aasahan mo sa mga alipores ni tiyanak. Kung ano ang puno siya rin ang bunga. Paano ni tiyanak madidisiplinahan ang mga ito kung siya mismo ang pinakasinungaling, pinakamagnanakaw at pinakakriminal!!!

  23. Mrivera Mrivera

    gusto mo ba ng tambayang ang veriety ay kumpleto?
    umuusok na mga balita, ‘yan ba ang hanap mo?
    kung gano’n, huwag ka nang lumayo lahat ‘yan ay nadito
    maaari kang magpalamig bawasan ang init ng ‘yong ulo
    meron ditong dramang aantig sa puso mong parang bato
    narito rin tawanang hatid ng mga komiko!

    ala’y tayka muna kabayan, ay saan baga iyan?
    ay maaari gang pagsabayin ang drama at tawanan?
    habang umiiyak ay naghahalakhakan
    hindi baga kaya iyan ay isang kabaliwan
    baka naman ako’y iniistir mo la’ang?

    kabayan, dili, uy, tinuod ang akong sinulti
    dinhi sa ellenville kumpleto ang mga isturi
    na’a nga kontrabida, daghan ang parang dolphy
    mataud ing parang erap, ang inggles na komedi
    adta ti kumento ti politics, meron ding halong sine!

    narito rin ang karamihang mga sutil at pasaway
    mayro’ng parang nananadya, may malasado ang katwiran
    mayroong ayaw magpatalo na ang lahat ay parang alam
    magkagayon man ay ramdam mo ang diwa ng pagmamahal
    pagnanais na matuldukan ang hirap ng inang bayan.

    dito ay mararamdaman mo ang isang dakilang adhikain
    ang bawat isa’y may sintemyentong dinadala sa damdamin
    nagdurugo ang bawat pusong binabalot ng panimdim
    nag-aalab ang kalooban sa silakbong pinipigil
    nagkakaisang kuyom palad ang paglaban sa mapaniil!

  24. Puede namang lituhin ang mga ungas sa totoo lang. If the followers of Erap cannot rally in Manila, they can rally in Makati. Pero mas mabuti, meron din sa Manila, meron din sa Makati, at meron din sa iba’t ibang probinsiya where Erap is popular. That way, malilito iyong mga bobo kung saan magpapadala ng mga sundalong kanin!

    Right now, tignan natin kung ano talaga ang gagawin ng mga pilipino kung sabihin ng mga tuta ni unano na kailangan mabitay si Erap para mawala na ang baakid sa pagiging reyna niya. Ang saya niya! Ako nga tempted na magprotesta sa harap ng Philippine Embassy pero sabi ng mga kaibigan ko sa pulis ng Tokyo bakit daw hindi mga pilipino ang magprotesta bibigyan naman daw nila ng permit? Kasi alam nila sa totoo lang haponesa ako at mga Amerikano ang mga magulang ko! 😛

  25. Magno,

    Ganda ng tula mo. Sa totoo lang ginagalugad ko ang Ellenville at kinokolekta ko ang mga tula mo. Sana i-compile din ni Ellen ang mga hinagpis ng mga katulad mo dito at gawing aklat na magiging magandang alaala ng mga pakikibaka natin dito laban sa mapang-aping rehimen.

    Ipagpatuloy mo pa ang ginagawa mo. BTW, nabasa mo na ba ang isang isinulat ng isang OFW. Ipinadala ko kay Ellen. Bahala na siyang maglathala niyon dito kasi medyo mahaba, pero nagsasaad ng pangkaraniwang istorya ng mga OFW lalo na sa KSA.

  26. Tungkol sa mga naglilingkod kay Gloria Dorobo, sa aking palagay kung matinong tao, tatangging sumama sa isang magnanakaw na sinungaling pa. Sabi nga sa ingles, “Birds of the same feather, flock together!” Pare-pareho lang iyan. Kung matino naman siguro, hindi tatagal ng pakikisama sa animal na babaing iyan at asawa niyan!

  27. Chabeli Chabeli

    Sukangsuka na ang taumbayan kay Gloria, in other words. & Apostol doesn’t think that this is a (very) critical rating ? He’s in for a big surprise.

  28. Ellen,

    Re Teves being spineless

    Why is it that everyone who becomes close to Gloria become spineless? Does she suck their bonemarrow so she herself can remain standing? One of these men is Ermita, the Ermita who used to be decent became indecent after his spine was sucked of its bonemarrrow.

    How utterly disgusting!

  29. Mrivera Mrivera

    ermita, a shame to batanguenos!

  30. Mrivera Mrivera

    ellen,

    maaari bang paki-forward sa bahay ko ‘yung sinasabing sulat ni yuko? with her permission, of course.

  31. chi chi

    Rose,

    The more they lie and cheat, the more salapi they get! Anofangba! Iyan ang kalakaran ni Gloria and those spineless used to be good men can’t just refuse the color of green bucks or Diosdado Macapagal’s face in peso na ipinapamaypay ni tianak sa kanilang pagmumukha!

    My friend, who admired Teves when he was jailed due to a case concerning Land Bank (sorry can’t remember), was so pissed to learn that Margy succumbed to the tianak’s kapritso. She said that Margy is now a certified corrupt!

  32. chi chi

    Sa survey na ito, kung tatakbo pala si Erap sa 2010 at walang exceptional na kandidato ay hands down pa rin siyang mananalo.

    Hindi kaya naiisip ng bruha na mas malaki ang pag-asa niya na hindi ma-plunder kung si Erap ay hahayaan n’yang maging pangulo dahil dadalawin lang niya ito sa Malacanang at uutuin ay OK na. He!He!He!

  33. I think Teves is a quiet hardworking guy. He should stand up though and be tough to the bullies. He had it right at first but due to peer pressure he flip flopped. It will only embolden the tiyanak and abaloslos to continue their misdeeds.

  34. Valdemar Valdemar

    Of course the Manila sympathy rests on Erap for they know he and us are gypped.

    It appears that everyone up there is sick. Mostly in the heartand bloodclots, one has a prostate,too many holes in one maybe, and many have mind crises, like father like son, the Teveses, the elder forgets where his office for he stays mostly at the BIR, Brenda looks and thinks and talks very damaging in the head, and another lady has the lapses.

  35. Mrivera Mrivera

    teka nga pala, hindi kaya ang tunay na economic growth na ipinangangalandakan ng mga ekekonomic planners ni gloria ay .75%? baka nahiya lamang sina gloria kaya ipinambola ang 7.5% at ang GDP ay .83% sa halip na 8.3%, hindi kaya?

  36. rose rose

    Mrivera: Ikaw ‘ga ay Batangueno? or Bulakanyo? ang husay ng tula mo. Maynagsabi sa akin na sa Batangas daw may nagtutula sa Fiesta Queen..to honor her.
    ‘Ala eh ano ga itong economic growth? miracle grow?.. puedeng, puedeng at malaki ang posibilidad na mali ang pagtuldok ng decimal point..pero malaking bagay..ibang klaseng “window dressing”.
    .. Tongue- may bagong dressing na puedeng gamitin sa salad- mayroon na bang Gloria Salad? Abalos-Teves salad
    topped with subiri leaves? walang bawang ha..allergic kasi ako sa bawang..

  37. rose rose

    Cocoy: “Teves maybe a quiet, hardworking guy..” but he should not remain quiet all the time..right you are hardworking and it is more so now that he should work hard to stand for what is right unless of course he is silenced..it is his decision..and he certainly said it loud..

  38. Chi:

    Takot na takot si Gloria kay Erap kasi akala niya kapareho niyang bengatibo. Kaya sabi sa Biblia, “Judge not that thou shalt not be judged.” Hinuhusgahan niya si Erap sa sarili kasi niyang standard!

    Hindi naman taga Lubao si Erap kaya sa palagay ko naman ay hindi siya tatagain sa likod gaya ng pagkakaalam natin sa mga katulad niyang dugong-aso! Bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan ay huwag magagalit. Kundi naman sila kapareho ni Gloria Dorobo y Dugong-Aso, bakit sila magagalit?

  39. Jadenlou Jadenlou

    Ang baba na ng trust rating ni gloria pero hanep din ang paghawak niya sa malakanyang. Magkano na kaya ang nakurakot niya sa billion niyang intelligence fund? Hindi kaya niya dito kinukuha ang pera para ibigay sa mga buwaya niyang kabinete? May nabasa akong hindi yata ina-audit yung intelligence fund ng presidente. Saan niya ginagamit ito?

    Kawawang Pilipinas talaga.

  40. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Ellen,

    Sana siningit nila sa tanong number 4 ay kung,

    4) In case the People of the Philippines declares GLORIA ARROVO and her HUBBY MR. Mike “FAT BullDOG” ARROVO SR. Guilty of corruptions,stealing ETC.Etc.. how many years should serve his/her sentence?

    ANSWER: Life in Prison and no pardon allowed from 99% Luzon/Visayas/Mindanao.

  41. vonjovi2 vonjovi2

    Tanong ko lang kung ano kaya pinakain nitong mag asawang Arrovo sa mga kasamahan nilang magnanakaw na kahit saan angulo ay pinag tatangol pa rin ang Chief of Thief nila. Kahit na ikakakahiya ng sarili nila.
    Halimbawa lang kay SIRULO GUNGONZALES ay kahit na nakaratay sa hospital at malapit ng mamatay (harinawa ay matuloy na)ay patuloy pa rin pinag tatangol ang amo niya. Tapos ay may isa na naman gusto yatang mag pakilala at gustong maging instant millioner na pulis Supt. (nakalimutan ko ang name) ay nag labas ng balita na may banta at nag re – recruit daw ang MAGDALO at kanilang babatanyan daw.. DAW.. gusto lang yata mapa bilang sa mga “GERMsNERAL” ni Mrs. Arrovo na yumaman agad.

    Survey ko lang sa inyo:

    WE = here in CHAT world.

    1) In case we declares Gluria Arrovo guilty of plunder, Do we should pardon her?

    2) In case we declares Arrovo guilty of plunder, how many years should she serve his sentence?

    3) In case we declares Arrovo guilty of plunder, should she be jailed in Muntinlupa or Mental Hospital?

    4) In case we declares Arrovo gulity of EVERYTHING. which one do you prefer sentence to Jail or TO DEATH……

  42. The reason for the delays in the erap trial

    i believe arroyo is planning to pardon erap after the guilty verdict is handed down. the admin delays in the erap trial (kontrolado ng administration ang speed ng trial, IMO) serves a purpose in lengthening erap’s detention, cuz once na pardon na si erap, parang naparusahan na rin siya dahil sa tagal ng house arrest niya. this is done to appease the remaining angry edsa dos supporters of hers of the idea of an erap pardon.

  43. Believe that everything re Erap is in the hands of Gloria – no way it’s beyond her control!

  44. maarte maarte

    You have a very good point, johnmarzan. Maganda ang observation mo. Baka nga matagal nang luto iyan at alam ng kampo ni Erap. If you notice, GMA is soft on Erap and Erap is not really that bad to GMA. We hope we the people and the nation were not taken for a ride. Everything is possible in politics especially in our country. Sana lang ay magkaroon na ng tunay na katahimikan. It’s the poor who suffer most. The rich and those living comfortably in other countries have already been blessed with fortune and opportunities. Kahit sinong Pangulo o anong administration, mananatiling mayaman at maginhawa ang ilan. But what about the majority who are poor? Kapag magkagulo, ang unang tatakbo iyon mga mayaman na karamihan ay green card holders or citizens of other countries. Ang maiiwan mga mahihirap na taong bayan.

  45. rose rose

    cocoy; Sorry hindi pala ikaw..si copilot pala ang nagsabi..hindi lang pala ang daliri ko ang gutom..sa kakaantay noong specialty sa resto ni Tongue..Cremated Liver ala Gloria…

  46. maarte maarte

    Everything about Erap is not in the hands of GMA but people around her particularly those behind the scene. There’s a very powerful force or forces controlling GMA. May mga malalakas na tao sa likod ni GMA. Siyanga pala, aalis na naman ng bansa si GMA and this time Mike Arroyo is going with her. Magaling na pala itong damulag na ito ano? Nakakabiyahe na. He needs to go…his signature might be needed for those personal bank transactions. Joint account kasi.

  47. With Bush becoming another lame duck with important positions in the US government vacant for months, and more positions being left vacated, now is the time for Filipinos that they can remove a real lameduck garutay pa out of Malacanang. The rallies in fact need not be violent as what they did in Thailand. The military with the blessing of majority of the people and the king looking the other way, it was a flower bedecked coup against Thaksin.

    Arya na, paspasan na. Patalsikin na, ngayon na!

  48. chi chi

    Tagilid na nakatiwarik si Gluerilla sa survey na ito kaya kailangan niyang ipagtanggol to the max si Abalos, or else sasabog ang Hello Garci right in her ugly face.

    The tianak is in deep, deep trouble kahit saan korner humarap. The curtain is closing in on her, she feels it even in the arms of Asspweron!

  49. chi chi

    Naku, dinala na ni Gaudeng Rosales pati si Eva at Adan sa usapang Hello Garci. Magkano na naman kaya ang kapalit?!
    Para sa akin ay isang malaking pagkakamali ang comparison na ito dahil ni walang nakasaksi kung ano ang tunay na estorya ni Eva at Adan samantalang ang Hello Garci ay may physical evidences at witnesses.

    Naloloko na pati ang Cardinal Rosales, nakakainis. Buti pa ang cardinal birds ko at nakakatuwa.
    ****

    Garci? Even Adam, Eve had no closure’ (www.abs-cbnnews.com)

    Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Cardinal Rosales expressed opposition to the planned revival of the “Hello, Garci” probe, saying even events in the Bible would show that not all issues can have closure.

    “Even the original sin of Adam and Eve has not been resolved. You remember the killing of (Abel by) Cain? Up until now, it is unresolved,” Rosales said.

  50. chi chi

    Hindi na kinilabutan si Rosales na arsobispo pa mandin na ikumpara ang estorya sa Bibliya ni Eba at Adan at ang Hello Garci na estoryang pandaraya ni Gloria. Huh, nakakakilabot ang pari na ito!

  51. pechanco pechanco

    Cardinal Rosales represents the double standard policy of the church. Notice the silence of CBCP these days. If there’s one thing Gloria is good at, it’s how she knows how to tickle these bishops and priests. Iilan lang ang tulad nina Cruz at Tobias. The reason why she remains in power is not only the protection by the military but the church.

  52. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Ousted President Joseph Estrada is 70 years old. He is qualified in this executive clemency issued by Gloria. Erap is a freeman without the decision from the Sandiganbayan. Guilty verdict means death sentence for plunder case. Death penalty is abolished. In 2004, Philippine bogus President Gloria Arroyo had issued Memorandum Circular 155, which states: “It is the policy of the Arroyo administration to extend executive clemency to deserving elderly inmates out of compassion and based on humanitarian grounds.” In June 24, 2006, Gloria Arroyo signed legislation abolishing the death penalty as PR move on the eve of a visit to see Pope Benedict XVI.

  53. chi chi

    Erap’s acceptance of the clemency will make Gloria a legitimate ruler. Wise ha!

  54. pechanco pechanco

    And Mr. Guerrero, the whole thing was actually to keep Erap in jail so that Gloria could remain in power unhindered. Hindi nila nauto si Erap na umalis ng bansa kaya ang next option ay ikulong siya. If you recall, Erap was first charged of crimes that were bailable. Isa-isa niya nilaban ito at nag-bail. Tapos, ang kinaso sa kanya ay plunder para walang bail. While he’s on trial, he’s supposed to be in jail. Ngayon malapit na matapos ang termino ni Gloria, they think and decide it’s time to let him go.

  55. chi chi

    penchanco,

    ‘yan ay kung matatapos na nga ang nakaw na termino ni tianak! This pint-sized evil woman is a chameleon, ang sinasabi ay hindi dapat tinitiwalaan.

  56. pechanco pechanco

    Kabayang Chi, don’t you worry…matatapos din iyan. Believe in the law of Karma.

  57. Diego K. Guerrero Diego K. Guerrero

    Why only now? Sandiganbayan Special Division may have already decided its verdict.

    Gov’t accused of ‘dark conspiracy’ vs Estrada

    MANILA, Philippines – Officials in government are working together to pin down former president Joseph Estrada in the plunder case before the Sandiganbayan anti-graft court, a former employee from the Office of the Ombudsman has disclosed through his lawyer.
    newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?article_id=86295

  58. Mrivera Mrivera

    diego, penchanco,

    bakit kailangang tumanggap ng clemency si erap? sino ang magbibigay ng clemency? ano ba ang kasalanan ni erap?

    kung si gloria ang magbibigay, ano ang karapatan niya? sino ba ang tumatawag at nagtuturing na presidente ng pilipinas itong mang-aagaw, sinungaling, mandaraya at mangnanakaw na baliw na babae?

  59. Sinabi mo pa, Magno. Ang kasalanan lang ni Erap ay tumanggap siya ng pera kay Chavit. Iyong plunder case, hindi naman nila mapatunayan. Case dismiss dapat iyan. So, no need for clemency. Tama ka diyan!

  60. Ako mapapatunayan ko sa iyo, Magno, walang nautang na pera si Erap sa Japan. Iyong unano, patong-patong na ang utang ng Pilipinas pero hanggang ngayon wala pa ring napakinabang. May mga projects financed with ODA from Japan pero grabe ang taga. Lahat kumukupit!

    Balita pa nga dito, iyong mamang mataba isinusulong kuno ang mga projects sa mga kakutsaba nila, tapos hihingan kunyari ng fundings from overseas, tapos kani-kaniya na silang kupitan. Kaya mabango sila sa Mt. Province, Cebu, Maguindanao, etc. where the projects I am told were offered. Iyan ang report ng mga contacts namin sa Pilipinas. Pag nabisto silang namamanman, nawawala sila. Extrajudicial killing ang labas!

    Tanong namin dito, wala na ba iyang katapusan? Enough is enough. Patalsikin na, now na!

  61. Mrivera Mrivera

    yuko,

    problema rin kasi sa mga donor countries katulad d’yan sa japan na kahit meron ng mga ibinabatikos na katiwalian sa mag-asawang ganid ay bakit hindi magdalawang isip sa pagpapautang? bakit hindi rin gawing batayan ang lumabas rating kug saan gloria’s administration was placed as number 1 corrupt in asia?

    bakit hindi gawing batayan ang hindi matapos tapos na katanungang alam din ng mga donor countries tungkol sa pandaraya ni gloria noong 2004 election at itong mga kung ano anong kaguluhang siya rin mismo ang may pakana tulad ng pagdukot, pagpapahirap at pagpatay sa kanyang political critics?

    sa ginagawa ng donor countries na pagpapautang sa administrasyon ni gloria ay maliwanag ding kinukunsinti nila ang pangungurakot at hinihintay nilang lumuhod na sa hirap ang mga pinoy at kapag hindi na mabayaran ang utang ay pagpapartipartihan o pag-aagawan ng mga nagpautang ang pilipinas.

  62. Kaya nga Magno meron fact-finding mission na pupunta sa Pilipinas to see kung talagang dapat o hindi pa pautangin ang Pilipinas under the unano. Precarious kasi ang lagay ng Japan dahil sa takot na isupalpal ng isupalpal sa mga hapon ang kasalanan ng mga sundalo noong araw sa mga sinakop ng Japan noong WWII more than 60 years ago.

    Sabi nga ng kausap naming mga parliamentarian dito, hangga’t wala namang official declaration na nandaya si Dorobo sa election, wala raw silang magagawa kundi i-recognize na presidente siya. Nasa mga pilipino daw ang problema.

  63. Mrivera Mrivera

    “Nasa mga pilipino daw ang problema”

    domestically, oo. at naniniwala ako bunga ng kawalang damdamin lalo na ‘yung mga hindi sumasala sa oras na walang pakialam kahit makitang inaabuso ang kanilang kapwa pilipino.

    subalit ang pinag-uusapan lalo at pautang para sa pamahalaan ay ang kakayahan ng pamunuan kung paanong babayaran ang uutangin sa kabila ng patong patong ng utang sa kabikabilang nagpautang.

    ‘yan ang tinatawag na tunay na concern sa mamamayan ng kalapit bansa. dapat maalarma kung mismong international body na ang nagbigay ng MOST CORRUPT rating sa buong asya itong administrasyon ng walang kakayahan sa lahat ng bagay na may kinalaman sa mamamayang ginagawang PALABIGASAN!

    kunsabagay ay desisyon din ‘yan ng pamahalaang hapon o alinmang pinamamalimusan ng HAYUP na babae sa malakanyang!

  64. rose rose

    Tongue: Kahapon may Abalos-Teves window dressing para sa salad. Ngayon may payola spread para sa sandwich. Sisikat talaga ang Tongue Tasty Menu.

  65. Japan recently – some two weeks ago during the visit of Abe to KL – offered the financing of underwater cabling linking a remote island of Malaysia to the mainland. Amount of loan: US$ 2.5 billion. (Malaysia, by the way, needs that cable.)

    Excellent terms to go with the loan but many Malaysians are wary because while they have not defaulted on payments on many of their loans, they don’t like to be saddled by so much debt and are debating the wisdom of incurring this Japanese loan again (Japan is one of their biggest creditors).

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