Malacañang wants him restricted and gagged
by Ellen Tordesillas and Victor Reyes
The former Marine commander in Basilan yesterday confirmed that “someone” recalled the aircraft which were supposed to provide support for the Marines who clashed with members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Al-Barka, Basilan last July 10.
Fourteen Marines died, with 10 of them found beheaded and mutilated the following day.
The confirmation by Col. Ramiro Alivio, who was relieved as commander of the 1st Marine Brigade Wednesday, is contained in his After Battle Report.
In his ABR, Alivio said “for unknown reason, the aircraft were recalled.” The lack of air support was one of the reasons cited for the high casualties in that encounter.
Other highlights of his ABR were the stated mission was “reconnaissance”; there was some kind of miscommunication; and only two rounds were fired from an automatic grenade launcher because “it jammed.”
Asked how old the grenade launcher was, he said, “It’s new.”
Alivio declined to disclose who recalled the OV-1 Bronco bomber and two MG-520 helicopters.
The aircraft were hovering for almost two hours without firing, initially due to wrong radio frequency supplied to the pilots by the 1st Marine Brigade.
The aircraft returned to their bases as they were running out of fuel. The OV-10 had to drop its armed bomb at sea for safety reasons.
A military source said that under the chain of command, Western Mindanao Command Chief Lt. Gen. Eugenio Cedo and Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban, WesMinCom deputy chief, have the authority to air strike support.
Cedo was in Cagayan de Oro to attend a peace summit with President Arroyo and national security adviser Norberto Gonzales.
Sabban, who was informed about the encounter at 4 p.m. or six hours after the firefight started, has denied recalling aerial support.
“Marines were dying, why would I stop (the air strikes)? I would not do that,” he said.
Lt. Col. Felix Almadrones, commander of the Marine Battalion Landing Team 8 (MBLT8) at the time of the incident, has said the July 10 fiasco would not have happened if the three aspects of “ammunition, communications and chain of command were seriously considered.”
Almadrones and Maj. Nestor Marcelino, ground commander, were relieved in the aftermath of the Al-Barkah disaster.
Alivio has a different explanation on why only six rounds of 105 mm howitzers were fired from that in the ABR of other officers that the Coordinating Committee on the Cessation of Hostilities ordered them not to fire because “they were engaging friendly forces,” referring to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front which is involved in a peace process with the government.
Alivio said: “Six rounds of 105 were fired because Lt. Col. Almadrones did not get a positive observation for the calls for fire.” A military officer said that means the information given by troop’s forward observers, who were near the target, showed their firings were not hitting the targets.
Questions were raised on the legitimacy of the July 10 operation which was supposed to be to a search for the kidnapped Italian priest Giancarlo Bossi.
Alivio insisted that “intel tracking for two weeks point to Bossi in Basilan.” A military officer said there could have been a mis-appreciation of intelligence reports.
Alivio did not reply to why he had to field a brigade for reconnaissance operations when the standard practice is “to first field a squad or platoon or conduct intelligence activity.”
In giving a reason for relieving Alivio, AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said Alivio was at his headquarters while Marines clashed with Abu Sayyaf forces in Unkaya Pukan, Basilan last Aug. 18. Fifteen Marines died in that encounter as against 42 Abu Sayyaf.
But a Malacañang source in the Cabinet security cluster meeting last Tuesday said Esperon told about Alivio blaming “general headquarters” in his talk with his troops after the encounter.
The source also said the cabinet security cluster decided that to neutralize the adverse effect of Alivio’s sudden relief in the middle of a military campaign, “he will be gagged and watched closely.”
The cabinet cluster also discussed ways to stall the Senate investigation on the Mindanao hostilities based on the resolution of detained Sen. Antonio Trillanes that top officials of the government had a hand in the “feeding of the our own military to the enemies of the state.” They expressed confidence that interest on the investigation will dissipate once government forces “prevail in Basilan.”
Marines spokesman Lt. Col. Ariel Caculitan said there was no need to investigate Alivio for staying at his headquarters while his men were in a fierce close-quarters battle.
He also dispelled speculations that Alivio’s relief would demoralize the ranks of the Marines.
Esperon, during the command conference president by President Arroyo at the WestMinCom in Zamboanga City yesterday, said the military plans to turn the Abu Sayyaf into a negligible group in Basilan in two months.
“They (ASG) cannot anymore coordinate any terrorist activities. That is my assessment as a former brigade commander,” he said. Esperon headed an Army brigade in Basilan several years ago.
Newly appointed 1st Marine Brigade commander Col. Rustico Guerrero said he may change the style in the conduct of operations to minimize casualties.
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Text from a military officer:
Fellow Cavaliers: For so long, we have been mere spectators in an arena of chaos, greed and manipulation.
News reports crtiical of military tactics in Basilan and Jolo causing too many deaths. Shouldn’t this be enough reason for those in our leadership to resign and take responsibility for delicadeza?
Something seriously wrong with AFP when you relieve a Marine commander in Basilan yet turn the other eye from the Army commander accountable for 27 KIAs (killed-in-action)in Sulu.
The Philippine Army commander is Lt. Gen. Romeo Tolentino.
In any combat operation, the ground commander is in the best position to make decisions. Ground commander is from the Commanding Officer (General, Colonel…) down to mid-level officers. Unless stopped by higher headquarter (AFP in Camp Aguinaldo where Esperon’s office is), the Field or Ground Commanders are in control. This thing about recalling the aircraft obviously came from Higher Headquarter. Higher Headquarter reports directly and solely to the Commander-in-chief in Malacanang. Now, who was responsible?
Oo nga ano, why spare Tolentino?! Ah, kasama sa business!
Col. Alivio, Sir…please talk naman, tutal ay hindi ka naman yata nila kalaro!
I said earlier that a traditional chain reaction occurs in the armed forces.
When things go wrong, the protocol in the army is a traditional chain reaction:
The furious general chews out the colonel, the colonel reams the major, the major scolds the captain, the captain rails at the lieutenant, the lieutenant berates the sergeant who in turn stomps on the private.
The private kicks his dog.
In the Basilan operations, this rigid tradition is now complicated by the blame-game convention, and it would be hilarious if it were not tragic.
“Fellow Cavaliers: For so long, we have been mere spectators in an arena of chaos, greed and manipulation.”
Yes, chaos, greed and manipulation are the mechanics in the ‘Game of the Generals’ and their Commander-in-Cheat, isama na rin ang Executive Secretary Ed Ermita who is a former general, the main manipulator!
# Ellen Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 5:17 am
The Philippine Army commander is Lt. Gen. Romeo Tolentino.
Mabuti naman at Tuli pala ang kumander ng Philippine Army.
The ordinary soldiers, the ones the generals make as frontliners and pricipal force in this gera ni Gloria carry the brunts on all sides. If not dead, wounded!
Gloria said she would “possibly” raise their take home daily allowance. Magkano? Hindi sinabi. Basta above the P240 montly combat pay allowance nila.
240 pesos monthly combat pay?! Inang ko, wala pang $5! Ano ang mabibili ng halagang ito sa loob ng isang buwan? Nakakaiyak.
cocoy Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 7:02 am
# Ellen Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 5:17 am
The Philippine Army commander is Lt. Gen. Romeo Tolentino.
Mabuti naman at Tuli pala ang kumander ng Philippine Army.
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I have been watching this blog and I can’t understand why you guys tolerate this kind of post.
titser:
Can you please clarify what your objecting to, is it the freedom of expression you are objecting to?
WWNL;–ThankS!
Titser;What’s wrong with my post? Can you reason out your objection.
What’s wrong with Tuli? Meron pa ngang Supot introduced by Mrivera last year pa. We are entitled to our freedom of expression, di ba WWNL?
Those words are not dangerous as the persons they are alluded to.
Tama ba yung Ingles ko, Cocoy?
Chi;
Your ingles is very right.Hehehehe!
Tenkyu, Cocoy. heheh!
Sorry guys. Go on with your merry way!
I forgot this is for entertainment too.
Titser, tiser, we are sick, thats why.
And we have the freedom of spit, dba?
Okay lets be serious. Tell us some jokes if you have any.
There is an African proverb that says don’t test the depth of the water with both feet, which might be a lesson worth learning by titser. I think the offensive word was also the subject of the controversy in the recent public debate on textbook errors. Now that titser realizes the Ellenville posts are full of levity in the banter, she is welcome to add her brand of silly nonsense and let the brickbats bounce off like water off a ducks back.
But, back to the main topic. The photo op of Ate Glue mingling with the Marines in Basilan smacks more of a cruel irony than a morale boosting gesture. The combat pay ploy is a promise that sounds insincere, a feeble dangled carrot, not a positive plan of action. The kingcrab pictured in the feast is not regular fare for combat troops.
Titser, green jokes and some naughtiness are tolerated here. What I only object is insults and racist remarks trashing one’s ethnic region.
A liar is a liar, and what she does can never be taken as truth but all pretenses. Kunyari matapang. Wow! Tignan mo naman ang kasama. Iyong asawa ng boss ng mga tulisan doon who should in fact be held responsible for not giving the massacre victims protection.
Wow, lobster party pa charged to the Filipino taxpayers! Puede ba tama na ang plastic? Sa amin iyan, walang kainan.
A Buddhist fasting is more fitting to appease the souls of the dead!!! Kung sabagay iba naman kasi ang kultura. Pero kung tunay si Loka, she should be more discreet. Wala bang matinong puedeng magturo sa ungas?
What she should have done is grieved with the families of the dead! Hindi biro ang dami ng mga nasawi. Puede siyang magpakalbo sa totoo lang.
Palibhasa when it comes to social graces and etiquette, kahit sinabing anak mayaman daw e tila kulang sa training ang walang modong magnanakaw na sinungaling. Tignan mo naman ang paglamutak doon sa handa. Kung ako ang nandoon, hindi ako kakain ng hinawakan ng diablo.
Hindi naantig! Possessed nga ng demonyo!
Hmmm…facts…facts…Alivio knows a lot in the basilan drama konting sundot pa ng mga suluano kay alivio mapipilitan na siya mag do-re-mi..!
Kaya siya bigyan ng position na maganda para wag siyang kumanta…paluin mo na lang alivio ang “gong” hudyat na yun para lumabas ang lahat ng katotohanan…
Ms Ellen,
Part 1
Di maalis sa isip ko na ano talaga yung laro sa Father Bossi kidnapping kahit na alam ng nasa gobyerno na wala dun si Bossi, at bakit nawawala sa “limelight” yung talagang kumuha kay Bossi na taga-Sibugay na alam at kakilala ng mga taga dun, bakit si Kumander Kiddie ang inililitaw nila na kumuha? At bakit taga Sibugay ang kumuha kay Father Bossi, eh si Hajarun ang pumapel na negotiator? At puro taga Basilan ang itinuturo na kumuha at doon dinala?
Kung ang pagbabasehan ang information na nakuha sa Ipil, Sibugay , ang talagang kumuha ay si Kumander Imam Yasin Kasim at Sobra Sampang na MILF lost command na nasa Rt Lim Sibugay. Si Sobra Sompang ay kamag-anak nung “Abug Sampang” and “Wakil Sampang” dalawa dun sa 4 na abu sayyaf na nakatakas o pinatakas sa Basilan Jail after the release of Father Bossi. At yun ang “bargain” sa pag-release kay Bossi.
Somewhere along the way, nagkaroon ng “trick” yung original plot ng kidnapping dahil sa pagpapel ng isang Supt. na si Bacerna, na out of the blue, nagprisintang personal na makikipag-negotiate sa mga kumidnap.
Last year May 10, 2006 si Donna Mae Ramos, 10 taong gulang na anak ng Lamitan Councilor Donnel Ramos at apo ng dating namayapang Mayor na si Vicente Ramos. Ayon kay Mayor Furigay ng Lamitan, si “Hajarun” ang nakipag-negotiate sa mga kidnapper para palayain ang bata ng walang kapalit na ‘ransom” dahil ang dalawa sa kinikilalang kumidnap ay si Nur Hassan Jamiri na pamangkin ni Hajarun Jamiri, at kasama sa kumidnap ay anak ni Isnilon na si Jaljani Isnilon at isang nagngangalang Jaid Awalal at dun nila din dinala sa Tipo-Tipo.
Sumunod na pagkakataon ulit na na-involved na naman si Hajarun sa pag negotiate ng Abu Sayyaf ng nagkidnap ay noong August 28, 2006 sa mga kumidnap kay Eleanor Grace Gonzales,nag-iisang anak Dr. Eldigario Gonzalez na presidente Western Mindanao State University (WMSU). Kinidnap siya ng Buwan ng July at dinala din sa Tipo-Tipo, Basilan na ang involved din sa kidnapping ay si Nurhassan at Buhari Jamiri. Si “grace” ay kinidnap malayo lang ng konti sa bahay nila sa Guiwan, Zamboanga City ng 4 na kalalakihan naka-motorsiklo. Nanghingi ng ransom money ang mga kidnapper ng 20milyon, pero dahil nga si “Hajarun” ang nag-negotiate sinasabing walang ransom money na ibinigay.
Part 2
Katulad ni “grace” si Donna Mae ay kinuha ng mga lalaki na nakasakay sa motorsiklo habang naglalaro sa tapat ng bahay.
Ang kumuha din kay Father Bossi ay 2 lalaking naka motorsiklo pero hindi sina Nur Hassan at Buhari Jamiri ang kumuha sa kanya sina Nur hassan, Buhari, Jaljani Isnilon at Jaid Awalal ay mga “Yakan” pati na si Kumander Kiddie at ang kapatid nito.
Kung susundan ang anggulo na sinabi ni Father Bossi na 10 Abu Sayyaf ang kumidnap sa kanya naniniwala kami na Mula kina Kumander Imam Yasin Kasim at Sobra Sampang sumama ang grupo nila Kumander Kiddie, ang kapatid nito, Nurwan AbdulSalam ,Nur Hassan jamiri, Buhari Jamiri, Jaljani Isnilon ,Jaid Awalal , sino pa yung pang sampu, di kaya si Hajarun Jamiri ang pang sampu dun sa sinasabi ni Father Bossi. Dahil malinaw na sinabi ng mga kasamahan ni father bossi na ang kumidnap ay naniniwala silang politiko na natalo sa eleksyon para sa simpleng ransom. Si Hajarun ang natalo sa pagtakbo bilang mayor sa isa sa bagong “town” ng Basilan at nag-ubos siya ng milyun-milyon na salapi ng nakaraang eleksiyon.
Noong June 17 nakita ng mga tao na pumunta sa bahay ni Nur Hassan Jamiri is Abu Sayyaf kumander sa tipo-tipo si Nurwan. kung sila ang kumuhang una kay Father Bossi bakit di nila dadalhin sa Tipo Tipo na kung saan lagi nila dinadala ang kanilang kinikidnap na malakas ang puwersa ng depensa nila dahil maraming tauhan si Nur Hassan na isang Ikumander ng Abu. Nang mga pagkakataon na yun ay nakita pa ng mga taga Sibugay na dinala sa Isla sa Sibugay si Father Bossi, kaya naniniwala lahat na andun lang sa paligid-ligid ng Sibugay si Father Bossi.
May balita sa paligid ng Sibugay na planong ibigay si Father Bossi sa Abu Sayyaf dun na pumasok ang involvement ng mga Jamiri . pero sa kampo ni Albader sa Parang nabalitang ililipat ang pangangalaga kay Father Bossi. subalit hindi nangyari dahil wala sa plano na itawid ng Sulu dahil ang mga nakakulong na Abu sa Basilan Jail ang kasama sa “bargain”. At magiging delikado rin kung itatawid ng Sulu ang mga kidnappers ni Father Bossi.
Kaya palipat-lipat lang sila sa bulubundukin ng Karomatan. Kaya nagakala ang mga taga Ipil na nakita si Father bossi at ang kumidnap dito na papunta ng Isla sa Sibugay pero sa karomatan, Lanao tumungo. Kaninong “bangka” ang ginamit? At nasaan ngayon ang bankang ginamit? sino ang nag-provide ng bangka? Alam namin na may isang speedboat na ginagamit ang mga “abu” na pag-aari ng PNP at di pagtatakahan ng mga tao o magduda kung sinoman ang sakay nito. Maluwag na nakakadaan sa dagat, lalo na’t may koneksyon ang mga abu sa mga awtoridad.
Part 3
Nabuo ang plano ng Bossi kidnapping sa Camp Cawa-Cawa sa pamamagitan ng ibat-ibang interest ginamit na “sacrifice lamb” si Father Bossi upang gamitin na naman ng gobyerno ang mga nakakulong na Abu sa panibago nilang drama ng pagpapasabog ng terorismo sa sariling bayan. Yun ang malinaw..!
Nang sumuko (kuno) si Buhari sa pamamagitan ni Jimmy Manicad , inamin niya lang na bumaril lang siya pero di siya namugot ng ulo. Pero di niya inamin na isa siya sa kumidnap kay Father Bossi.At gusto pa niyang maging “state witness” laban sa mga namugot, pero di sa mga kumidnap! isa siya sa itinuro ng kampo ni Akbar na namugot at pang 12 siya dun sa warrant of arrest.Bakit siya itinuro ng mga Akbar at mismong si Wahab Akbar pa ang nagsabi na kasama siya sa namugot (bakit nakita ba ni Wahab ang pamumugot at alam niya kung sino agad) dahil magkalaban sa pulitika ang mga Jamiri at Akbar
Pero ayon kay Buhari kilala niya ang 2 sa namugot at tao naman ni akbar ang itinuturo niya na namugot na miembro rin ng Abu Sayyaf.
Maliwanag ang partisipasyon ni Buhari sa Basilan, siya ang naging lookout ng mga MILF kasama na si Nur Hassan sa pananambang sa mga militar. Subalit may halong “pagdududa” pa rin sa anggulo na sila ang kumidnap kay Father Bossi sa kabila ng marami na silang nagawang pangingidnap at mismo dinadala nila sa lugar nila sa Tipo-Tipo. Na nakilala na sila ng lahat na utak lagi ng kidnappan sa Basilan.
Kusa kaya siyang pinasuko para malihis na naman ang totoong mga pangyayari? Sa kultura ng mga muslim walang sumusuko, mas gugustuhin pa nilang mamatay dahil sa iyon ay “jihad” at banal. Si Buhari ay isang “asset” ng Army’s 103rd Brigade at ginagamit ng brigade. di kaya ang pag punta niya sa Guinanta at pakipagusap niya sa mga kumander ng MILF ay para sabihin ang gagawin pagpunta ng mga sundalo, kaya siya pa mismo ang naging lookout ng mga ito para sa ambush? Jamiri is wanted for his killing with an ex-mayor 1991, at nagpunta sa MILF para magtago. Kung siya ay talagang nagtatago, bakit lagi siya ang involve sa mga kidnap for ransom na halos ang kapatid niya na si Hajarun ang laging nakikipag-negotiate at sinasabing pinapawalan ng walang ransom. Kilala si Hajarun na pusakal na mangingidnap at nililitratuhan nila ang kanilang mga kinikidnap para ipakita nila sa mga pamilya nito at magbigay ng ransom. Bakit imbis na isama ng gobyerno sa imbistigahan si “hajarun” na malaki ang kinalaman sa Father Bossi kidnapping ay pinalabas pa nilang bayani? Nasaan si “hajarun” ngayon?
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maya na yung part 4…
With the information you are providing, Gokusen, sapat na iyan para gumawa ng sariling imbestigasyon ang NBI that is supposed to have jurisdiction on this case kahit na sabihin mo pang mga sundalo ang mga biktima at dapat hawakan ng AFP. Hindi naman official civil war na deklarado iyan kundi isang act of terrorism by a group of hoodlums using exotic names.
Walang pinagkaiba iyan for instance doon sa terrorism na ginawa for instance ng isang grupo ng mga fanatics dito sa Japan, iyong Aum na gumawa ng lagim sa Tokyo subway a decade ago. Walang pinag-iba sa totoo lang pero ang kaso ay hawak ng pulis at korte at hindi ng aming hukbong sandatahan.
Pagdating sa trabaho ng pulisya at hustisya, hindi dapat nakikialam ang presidente lalo na peke at kriminal.
Salamat sa info mo. Mamaya pagtatagpi-tagpiin ko iyan and play detective. My forte sa totoo lang kasi nagtrabaho ako sa pulis dito sa Tokyo as a civilian interpreter na sumasama sa mga imbestigasyon from petty theft to heinous crimes of passion and murder! Problema lang kung sino ang pagdadalhan mo ng kaso with an unreliable police and court in the Philippines. Puede siguro si ex-NBI Chief, Mayor Lim. Puede ba siyang makialam?
Gokusen, how many parts are in all? We can write a book, TV documentary or movie. It’s amazing…so much details coming from actual experiences. At least you share with us actual events of what you know and have witnessed unlike some know-it-all bloggers who only know how to speculate, suspect and share fictional accounts.
And let me congratulate you Gokusen for all the narration of facts. You’re the best thing that ever happened to this blog.
Many of us are tired of reading fictional novels from those story tellers based abroad. Keep it up. I’m proud of you.
Ibinitin mo pa ang pagbasa ko, Gokusen. 🙂
Hintay ko bukas ang part 4, almost 12 pm na.
Walang sinabi ang estorya ng mga mafias dito.
Good night, Chi. Mafias? Don’t you belong to the Ellenville Mafia? He, he. Yes, we now can read first hand accounts from someone who’s more reliable and credible.
Gokusen, kung aantayin natin ang korte para makuha ang katotohanan, baka patay na kaming lahat wala pa rin malalaman. But with your revelations, we get the overview of how the hoodlums operate. In previous threads I actually thought that the business of kidnapping for ransom is a big syndicate orchestrated by the politicians, military, the warlords and the hired guns( the rogue Abus, MILF,MNLF and the like). Hati hati na sila sa loot. This whole charade of hunting down the murderers of the marines is all a distraction. The leaders of the group know who the real Fr Bossi kidnappers were. The beheading of the marines may just be a justification to get rid of the real kidnappers so there will be no trail all the way to the murky river and the house without a basement. Clever isn’t it?
Thanks Gokusen for sharing your analysis with us.
Noong nakawala yung mga muslim na preso, naamoy ko na kaagad na itong mga ito ay alaga ng sindikato. Pinakawalan sa kulongan kasi may “operations” na naman. At itong mga ito ang gustong ipaligpit ng mga “operators”, thus the marines have to go into the danger zone to hunt down the supposed villains. Dahil sa hinahanap ng militar na mga “targets”, nasakripisyo and buhay ng mga batang sundalo. May kasama ding “bounty” kapag nahuli ang mga most wanted “terrorists” kuno, additional source of big income din ito!
So, Gokusen, talaga palang maraming pagkakaperahan sa inyo. Di bale ng mamatay and mga sundalo,mamatayan at mawalan ng tirahan at kabuhayan ng mga mamamayan magiging “successful” lang ang operations ng mga hoodlums!
titser Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 7:11 am
cocoy Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 7:02 am
# Ellen Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 5:17 am
The Philippine Army commander is Lt. Gen. Romeo Tolentino.
Mabuti naman at Tuli pala ang kumander ng Philippine Army.
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I have been watching this blog and I can’t understand why you guys tolerate this kind of post.
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papaano kung sungaw?
“240 pesos monthly combat pay?! Inang ko, wala pang $5! Ano ang mabibili ng halagang ito sa loob ng isang buwan? Nakakaiyak.”
chi, ang combat pay ay katulad ng hazard pay na sa tuwirang kahulugan ay idinagdag na tatanggapin ng sino mang kawal na pumayag ma-assign sa combat areas at makipaglaro sa kamatayan.
ano ‘ika mo ang mabibili ng 240 pesos? maliwanag – kung hindi bala ng kalabang tatama sa ulo ay kris na pupugot dito.
ang mura nga, ano?
Col. Ramiro Alivio confirms that the “aircraft were recalled” to “provide support for the Marines who clashed with members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Al-Barka, Basilan last July 10” must have come from General HQ.
What does that make that “someone” in the General HQ ? A murderer.
“They (ASG) cannot anymore coordinate any terrorist activities. That is my assessment as a former brigade commander,” he said. Esperon headed an Army brigade in Basilan several years ago.”
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taragis, kadaming dakdak. hindi na lang gawin para mapatunayan kung mero ngang nagawa at magagawa ang mga katulad niyang walang silbi kundi ang manloko at mandaya kasama na ang magnakaw!
Something must be seriously wrong with the AFP leadership when you have an ASS & a MIDGET at the helm.
Magno:
Panahon na para magkaroon ng class action para naman magkaroon ng hustisya ang pagkamatay ng mga kinatay. Sana may mgbuklod-buklod doon sa mga pamilya ng mga kinatay na hindi na puedeng “Sorry, lapse of judgment!” na lang ang ikinakatwiran ng mga bobong lider daw sa kanila. Tama na, sobra na! $5 lang ang dagdag sueldo for risking their lives? Hindi ako magtitiyaga kung ako. Hindi ka pa makakain ng hamburger na may kasamang fries at coke sa isang MacDonald’s o Burger King o Jack in the Box, etc. sa Tate o Japan niyan. Kawawang mga sundalo! Ginagawang mga pataygutom para hindi makareklamo kahit na ipambala sila sa kanyon!!! Nakakai-Yuck!
goji: Many of us are tired of reading fictional novels from those story tellers based abroad.
He,he.. goji, parang alam ko tinutumbok mo ah.. i share your sentiments and thoughts regarding the “fictional novels from story tellers based abroad”… akala ko ako lang ang nkakapansin nun eh, hehehe.. 😉
Well menOk, I’m just telling the truth. Isn’t this blog all about truth, justice and equality? Then, why are there people trashing other’s ethnic origin calling them names? You’re not alone in your observation. Many do but prefer to keep the code of silence. As Chi mentioned, there are many Mafias here. I asked her if she belongs to it and she has not responded. But don’t get me wrong, despite some imperfection brought about by a few high profiled individuals, this is the best discussion group in the country if not in the whole world.
# Chabeli Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Something must be seriously wrong with the AFP leadership when you have an ASS & a MIDGET at the helm.
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We’re now watching the Ass & Midget show!
Kita mo ba ang photo nila sa Inq. bagay ‘no?
Dapat umpisahan ni Sen. Biazon inbestigasyon sa Tipo-Tipo fiasco para malaman ang katotohanan at maituwid ang mga kapalpakan ng rehimeng Arroyo. Bagay ng dalawang matsing sa photo-ops.
Gloria says that she’s going to crush armed threats vs government in 3 years according to democratic processes and the rule of law.
Where’s her “isang bala lang kayo”?
Wow, democratic purposes and rule of the law daw!
Huwag na ang gera, dako muna tayo sa mga extra judicial killings and forced disappearances committed by her administration and military tutas. Ang mga militant rallies.
Gagging officials from Senate hearings when they become too hot for her, Trillanes and Lacson’s supposed investigation on Tipo-tipo incident and Hello Graci, respectively.
Gloria hasn’t obey the Constitution since she took power by force. Democratic processes and rule of the law are mere empty words for her to be used whenever there’s a need for them for her own spins!
What rule of law? Philippine bogus President Gloria Arroyo is day dreaming. In reality, the corrupt Arroyo government is weak to wage a war in different fronts. The CPP-NPA is exploiting the secessionist war in Mindanao. About 20 NPA guerrillas disguised as soldiers raided San Isidro police station in Davao Oriental and carted away nine M-16 assault rifles and two handguns from the police and seized two shotguns from guards at a nearby plantation without firing a single shot. The NPA often target poorly defended military and police outposts to beef up their armaments. The rebels have been waging a Maoist insurgency for 40 years. 8/23/2007 GMA7 TV news
Ang akala ko yong 240 pesos ay per day. per month pala..noong bata ba si sabel 240 pesos a month was a big amount. I started at IL-FGU for that much but that was many moons ago, before many of you were born. Ngayon retired na ako..what can 240 pesos buy..wala..samantalang nakita ko sa picture that si GMA ay namiesta sa Basilan kasama ng gobernado in sympathy kuno sa mga sundalo..pero sa picture ang mga sundalo na sa paligid niya ay nakatingin lang at nakabantay lang sa kanya abang lumalamon. She does not have any sensitivity at all..walang hiya is a mild term to describe her..Hindi kaya siya reyna sa kaharian ni Satanas-she is the chief of staff doon at hindi siya peke doon tunay na tunay as we all saw and will see..
Rule of law? Sinong may sabing may rule of law? Not when the leader is a criminal, one who has trampled upon the Constitution and violated the laws of the land. Plundering the treasury for instance is not a petty offense. It used to merit a death sentence!
Takot na takot iyong mga ungas, and reason for their attempts now to circumvent the law to fit their purpose and agenda. EK (as in ek-ek!) ni Glueria Dorobo who wants to be declared a queen by the Philippine Tongress headed by the Pangalatok being challenged by the Cebuano na pareho namang kurakot for no non-kurakot for sure will ever patronize a crook if they are not the same! Sabi nga “birds of the same feather flock together!” Parang manok! Marami nga pala sila as in many chickens!!!
Rose,
Lobster ang nilalamutak. Alam ko mas mura ang lobster sa East Coast but still, cannot afford ang maraming pilipinong kumain niyan. Kung bagoong nga hindi na nakakaulam sa totoo lang, lobsters pa kaya?!
240 pesos isang buwan? Coke nga 55 pesos na e.
Cong. Ruffy Biazon, if you’re still reading this, please tell the Senator we have loads of info during the past few weeks in this blog. Do tell him to squeeze out of Col. Alivio every drop of bitter liquid he is keeping if he has not yet been briefed fully by Sen. Trllanes when they met at the Brig. We can probably understand precisely what Alivio meant when he said history will bail him out. Thanks.
Gokusen, thanks a lot. Your info help us in making the pieces in this July 10 debacle puzzle fit.
Sabi ng kumpare ko nabo-bore daw siya. Sagot ko naman, “may koleksyon ako ni Robert Ludlum, basahin mo.” Tuwa siya at sabi, “thanks, erap.”
Bukas babawiin ko sa kanya ang Ludlum koleksyon ko papalitan ko ng “Gokusen Expose”. Tiyak ko mas enjoy siya katulad ko at ng karamihan sa Ellenville.
Gokusen, hindi ko tutulugan ang “Part 4” mo. More power!
Off Topic but needs to be said:
“fictional novels from story tellers based abroad”
If you don’t like some ‘stories’ then your not forced to read it. Most people here enjoy the diversity of comments. If your only looking to read comments that you totally agree with this blog becomes as boring as other blogs. I read every commented posted here but doesn’t mean I agree with everything said here – but you see I’m still learning – smile
Longlive Ellensville!
A military source said that under the chain of command, Western Mindanao Command Chief Lt. Gen. Eugenio Cedo and Brig. Gen. Juancho Sabban, WesMinCom deputy chief, have the authority to air strike support.
Cedo was in Cagayan de Oro to attend a peace summit with President Arroyo and national security adviser Norberto Gonzales.
Sabban, who was informed about the encounter at 4 p.m. or six hours after the firefight started, has denied recalling aerial support.
“Marines were dying, why would I stop (the air strikes)? I would not do that,” he said.
My two cents:
Parang walang alam o walang pakialam si Sabban sa mga nangyari dahil six hours after the firefight started lang niya nalaman ang gera-gerahan. So, nakabalik na ang mga air support force bago niya nalaman.
Hindi kaya ang Cagayan de Oro Summit ang nag-recall sa mga aircrafts through Cedo?
Alivio was not talking until he was relieved. Now he wants people “to push” him to say things that he should have actually said soonest as he found out what happened to the massacred soldiers under his command. Hindi naghintay pa siya kunyaring ma-relieve and when public opinion turned negative instead of all praises for the idiot trying hard to be a genius whose expertise is to lie and deceive, nagbago ang tono.
It’s actually sourgraping. I would not like to give credence to this military guy even when he sounds remorseful and wanting to spill the beans kasi alanganin.
Mas reliable ang post ni Gokusen. Subject to scrutiny sa akin anything that Alivio, Esperon, et al say. Wala silang credibility as a matter of fact.
Pareho lang sila ng mga tinutugis nila especially when we know for a fact that there is some connivance somewhere. Purpose naman is not to eliminate the terrorists kundi pinapalago ang terrorism with the help, directly and indirectly, of the tulisan being called by all those exotic names, jihadists and otherwise.
Puro sinungaling. Hindi na natakot sa Diyos/Allah ni Abraham!
Yuko,
Everyone is saying it. Something’s terribly wrong in Basilan. And Since it’s Alivio the bastards’ fingers are pointing to, logic says it’s not his fault.
Unless you want to believe Esperon.
The first response, done by a military officer, says it all:
“Something seriously wrong with AFP when you relieve a Marine commander in Basilan yet turn the other eye from the Army commander accountable for 27 KIAs (killed-in-action)in Sulu.”
That texter-officer could have cursed the Col. if he believes he was solely responsible, instead, he even sounds sympathetic to Alivio.
Unmask the real culprits, we’ve had enough of fall guys already.
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Cocoy, plantsado na ba yung mga pamtalong de-garter?
Tongue,
Nope, no bilib ako kahit sino sa kanila, lalo na kay Esperon.
OK so, nagtuturuan na sila. Parepareho lang sila. Kaya kung ako sa kaniya, demoted or promoted, magsalita na siya. Pero sabi nga, once namantsahan ng kasinungalingan, etc. kahit na lagyan ng bleach, mahirap nang pumuti pa.
Sabihin na nating I don’t believe in plea bargaining. Wala niyan sa Japan sa totoo lang. Wala naman talagang option. For the sake of truth and justice, the guilty party just needs to tell the truth and go to jail, or tell a lie and still go to jail. Kaya nga dapat magpursigi ang pulis na mag-imbestiga.
That was a very informative piece. So, the Internet Brigade is real after all. Can’t Ellen and her administrator look into this? I’m sure there’s a way to find out which is which and who is who. And if there’s an Internet Brigade, is there also a Mafia Brigade…a Brigade that controls and manipulates this blog? I’m just asking. I also know of someone who uses many aliases in other blogs. If SHE cannot have her way, SHE jumps to another. But SHE can be recognized by HER insulting remarks of people’s ethnic background as if SHE has the best of genes and status in life. How can you tolerate someone who keeps referring to HER own countrymen as “You…You Filipinos” As if SHE is not? Okay, let’s call for an investigation like the Senate on Garci. Let’s investigate if there’s indeed an Internet Brigade. Don’t insult the intelligence of the owner of this blog. Who want to take the challenge?
Goji,
I already told you that I don’t have konek in Pinas and that I’m only a very ordinary Pinay doing small stuff for my beloved Pinas. So, will you please stop asking me if I’m a member of a mafia here which I suppose is only an imaginary thing due to mixture of personalities.
I’m a regular contributor here since day one I registered, and that was more than a year ago. I joined Ellen’s blog because I believe in her fight for “Truth and Justice”, and so do you. Otherwise, you won’t be here, di ba?
And I’ll be congtributing here as long as Ellenville exists, iyan lang ang magagawa ko dahil malayo ako sa aking bansa.
This will be my last post re your question because I don’t believe there is a mafia here. Antigo na ang iba dito kaya kampante na sila sa isa’t-isa, that’s the best reason I can think of why some people here seem to have connected.
Ellen’s email is very public, ayan at palaging nakabalandra. What more can I say, if individuals want to send here email, ayan lang.
btw, why are you interested in what organization I belong? Dalawa lang kami sa organisasyon, me and my hubby.
I’m not a professional blogger, I only blog here and I don’t have knowledge how professional bloggers operate. I’m not also a tech savvy person, except for my online trading. I just enjoy being here. There!
“Something seriously wrong with AFP when you relieve a Marine commander in Basilan yet turn the other eye from the Army commander accountable for 27 KIAs (killed-in-action)in Sulu.”
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I pray that one day soon, imprisoned and in active duty military officers will join hands and expose the real culprits. Gloria can’t move against them more than she already did, lame duck quacking na ang impakta.
In 3 years, she ordered “her military” to crush the unidentifed enemy. Susmaryosep, meron pa kayang matitirang sundalo sa haba ng gera-gerahan ni Gloria?
Pwede sigurong bukas makalawa ay itigil na ni Gloria ang kanyang gera kung ibibigay na nang buo o dadagdagan ni Uncle Sam ang military aids.
SOP under the fake gloria regime:
If you are good and competent, you are out;
If you are corrupt, cheat, thief, liar, criminal, incompetent, retarded and know how to ass-lick, you’re in.
Chi: alam ko na ang tawag sa organization ninyong magasawa-mutual admiration club. That is the best! I am not a professional blogger myself..and you know why I blog here. But I enjoy doing it. And I learned a lot about issues, people, etc. And like you, I will keep blogging for as long
as Ellenville is around.
Chi,
sencya kung nabitin kita sa pagbabasa kahapon, kasi nahihiya ako dugtungan baka kasi nahahabaan kayo dun sa post ko kaya part by part yung ginawa ko..
yuko,
kung gusto nilang imbistigahan yun, simula pa lang, dahil di nga ba isang “agent” ng nbi ang nagsabi na may tumawag sa kanya at sinabi nga na kinidnap si Father Bossi, kaso nawala din sa “limelight” at ang pumaper nga eh si “barcena” dun palang may maamoy ka na..hawak na ng nbi bakit napunta pa sa pulis ang imbestigasyon?
goji,PSB
akala ko nga mabore kayo sa pag-basa, kasi sinusulat ko yun kung papano ko iniisip at address ko nga kay Ms. Ellen, dahil nga bakit kami alam namin ang totoong nagkidnap di naman kami imbestigador? Tapos para ko lang ma-prove ung totoong kumuha kay Father Bossi eh dapat litratuhan ko yung totoong unang kumuha? Papano ko magagawa yun gustuhin ko man, una, wala na yung mga yun sa Ipil di na namin alam kung nagtago o itinago? buhay pa ba? o hindi? Pangalawa, yung mga kumidnap tanong man kay Father Bossi eh mga nakatakip ang mukha? Di naman ako si Hajarun na kinunan si Father Bossi dahil alam niya kung sino at may access siya dun sa mga kidnapper..oo nga pala..(isa siya dun!)
Makisawsaw na nga sa topic about “fictional novels from story tellers based abroad”
Well, as far as I am concern, that is not a problem at all.
We live in a democratic world and freedom of expression is one of the most precious right and privilege we enjoy, so anyone has the right to voice his/her opinion as long as it is within the law. But there’s also the freedom of choice, a right that is self explanatory, so if anyone among the bloggers here resent or dislike what others have to say, exercise that right. That’s about it.
I get the impression that GMA has not learned a bit in her years as president in the manner she runs the country. Noong araw..may laro tayo na pen pen de serafin..and we point at each of our hand and wherever the word “how how the carabao patutin stops out ka na. That is exactly what is happening..nagtuturuan- finger pointing and nobody takes responsibility. And when things go wrong sa mga cabinet members niya iniikot lang niya..remember the game trip to Jerusalem..pagstop ng music maghanap ka na ng chair mo at kung hindi ka nakaupo out ka na. At hindi na tumaas .4’11” pa rin..wider perhaps like puno ang bulsa..walang pagbabago ang buhay ng tao..that is how she runs the country?
Florry, you’re also among the more decent bloggers. You may seldom write but your comments are good. Freedom has its limit…not when you attack one’s ethnic origin and background calling people from those places names. And to justify her actions, a so called “Internet Brigade” phobia has been created. And she…she belongs to the Devil’s Brigade together with that evil woman in Malacanang.
Hey fellas, lets not quarrel over trivial matters which we are not expert at all. One cannot give the true pictures anyway. You might be only dredging reports from newspapers with leanings, or of friends from either sides of the frontlines or from diluted after operations reports. If we have the internet brigade looking in, well and good. They have a right to be here. It disturbs their handlers of our concoctions. Of course its not blog if we only want to see what we want to hear. To them, you are the mafias because you hide behind a nom de guerre and they don’t like what we write. We are all suspects. Its enough that our sympathies are profuse to those we believe. And any credible suggestions or alternatives we share might seep in to readers. So far, our expats are one and definite na kawawa ang pinoy, @#$)? Pa.! We can not compare of course with other countries of refuge. Our rich people are even richer than theirs, and our wretched poor are worst than theirs. Honestly, I enjoy going over the jokes and the bloopers here.
Rose: At hindi na tumaas .4′11″ pa rin..wider perhaps like puno ang bulsa..walang pagbabago ang buhay ng tao..that is how she runs the country?
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Sinabi mo pa. Golly, 6 years na sa Malacanang, ilang beses nang nag-SONA, ang sinasabi pa rin, “help me to be a good president!” Mapapamura ka talaga, Rose. Bakit niya sisihin ang mga tao kung hindi siya maging mabuting pangulo? Unang-una, hindi naman siya ibinoto.
Ngayon, nanginginig ang tumbong niya at pinapangakuan ng maraming datong ang mga ungas na handang tumulong sa kaniya para kasuhan iyong mga nagtetestigo at nagsusumbong ng ginawa niyang pandaraya noong 2004 huwag na ang ginawa niyang connivance doon sa mga kurakot na kausap nila ng asawa niya.
Tapos inutusan ang mga Internet Brigaders niya na manggulo sa mga egroups at blog na matindi ang batikos sa kaniya at doon sa mga tuta niya. Kababasa ko lang ng isa doon sa isang gmail blog. Tindi ng sagutan! Hindi ko sasabihin kung saan. Aabangan ko kung nandoon iyong stalker dito na makulit na magulo pa!!!
Bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan pihadong pipiyak! Ewwwwww!
Yuko: I don’t particularly like lobsters besides the fact that they are so expensive. Maryland crabs..yes I like. But my favorit is still “talangka na punong puno ng alege”. Come to think of it–parang wala na akong nakita na talangka sa palengke..baka off season lang. Sa picture ni GMA eating the lobsters..walang patawad ang lamon! as in many things..walang patawad ang paglamon.
Ms, Ellen,
tuloy ko part 4…
Bakit nanahimik ang “agent” ng nbi na unang nakatuklas ng pagkawala ni Father Bossi? Tapos nang sumuko si “Buhari” ang dumating at kumuha sa kanya ay mga taga NBI galing Manila. Pero nung i-served ang warrant of arrests sa Basilan ay mga pulis ang pumunta? Since, pinakialaman na ng mga pulis ang ganung bagay, dapat di na nbi ang kumuha kay
Buhari anong silbi nung mga nag-served ng warrant of arrests na complete with battle gear pa sila? Inirekwes ba ni buhari na sa “nbi” siya susuko? o may lulutuin na naman na panibagong “twisting” ng plot ng drama?
Nung ipresent kay Gonzales si Buhari, sinabi ni Ruel Lasala, chief ng NBI-NCR na yung sinabi o revelation ni Buhari ay malaking tulong na makakapagpatibay sa mga ebidensiya ng gobyerno to corroborate dun sa mga testimonial evidence dahil ang mga kasalukung witnesses pa lang nila ay ang puro militar at wala pa sa panig ng “abu sayyaf”.
Ang mga “witnessses” bang sinasabi ni Lasala, ay yung mga witnesses na ginamit sampahan ng kaso yung 130 katao na wala naman silang nahuli kahit isa? Na sabi naman ng WesMin na yung mga witnesses at kinunan ng impormasyon ay may mga “civilians” at mga sundalo ? Kinuha ba ng gobyerno sina “jun veneracion” at ang kasama niyang “cameraman” na sila lang ang “civilian” na nakakita ng ibang pangyayari i-guide sila ng isang sugatang sundalo na makakita ng pagtataguan? at ng makita nila ang reinforcement ay andun lang sa eskuwelahan mga nakapuwesto.
The witnesses kung meron man sa kung sino ang namugot ay kung sino ang kaharap habang namumugot. Kung may magsasalita sa parte ng militar o civilian na alam nila kung sino ang namugot , papano nila ma-proved yun , nakita ba nila? andun ba ang mga sundalo ng namumugot ang pumugot? andun ba si wahab akbar habang namumugot? para mapinpoint niya ang namugot kung sino? Walang civilian ang magkukuwento kung sino ang namugot dahil bago pa magkaroon ng sagupaan walang mga civilian na dun mga nagsilikas na dahil takot silang maiipit sa gera. Sundalo ang magsasabi kung sino namugot? Eh di sana pinagtanggol na nila yung pinupugutan kung andun sila? At kung meron mang sundalo dun baka isa na siya sa napugutan? Wag naman sabihin may nagpatay-patayan na sundalo dun at nakikita niya yung pamumugot para maikuwento kung may mag-rescue sa kanya sino namugot? Sino ba ang nangolekta ng mga namatay? di ba ang tauhan ni akbar at ang asawa niya? Di kaya isa dun sa namulot eh isa sa namugot? At ang tumulong din ay mga nakalaban din ng mga sundalo na kasama sa mga tauhan ni Wahab Akbar?
Sabi sa testimonya ni buhari sa nbi, ikinuwento niya kung ano ang nasaksihan niya, ayon nga sa kanya sa simpleng kuwentuhan nila pagkatapos nila sa pananambang sinabi ni Omair Indama na 4 ang pinagutan niyang ulo, si Atting Indama naman ay kung papano niya pinutol ang daliri para makuha ang singsing ng isang sundalo,kung papano si Suaib Kalibun,cut the abdomen para bigyang katarungan ang pagkamatay ni Panjang Kasim sa isang engkwentro noong Mayo ng taong kasalukuyan.
Sa kanila simpleng usapan na lang ang “payabangan” nila sa mga di makatao nilang gawain, dahil nasa ugat na nila nanalantay ang kasamaan. mas marami kang mapugutan ng ulo, ikaw ang irerespeto. mas marami kang makuhang baril o anumang mga bagay pagkatapos ng ambush mas bibilib sa yo. kaya nga maraming kabataan ang mas sumasama sa kanila dahil sa ganun paniniwala sa kayabangan at kawalanghiyaan ng mga walang pusong abu sayyaf. Naniniwala kami sa sinabi ni “buhari” tungkol sa mga namugot, pero naniniwala din kami na isa siya dun sa namugot? Bakit? Sa kanya di na simpleng bagay ang mamugot hindi man may ginawa rin siya dun isa sa mga bangkay. Kung may mahalagang bagay na makita sila sa katawan ng napatay nila kukunin nila yun.Nakuha nga nila 5 M203 grenade launchers, three M60 long range machineguns, two M16 armalite rifles, one LMG (mini) and M14 rifle, two night vision goggles, compass and silencer. Bukod pa sa mga pera na nakalagay sa wallet ng mga sundalo. Pyesta sila pag nanambang sila dahil wala silang titirang buhay may tamaan man sa kanila pero di namamatay. Kasama siya sa grupo ni Hassan Jamiri na Kumander ng Abu na pamangkin niya, at sila ang unang nanambang. Yung sinasabi niyang natutulog sila ng pamangkin niya sa Btgy.Limbo Upas kasama si Abdalal at Muksin Husalon
ng malaman nila na may papuntang mga sundalo sakay sa 6×6 na truck.
Ano yun nagpakita sa panaginip nilang apat na may dumarating na mga sundalo? asset siya ng 103rd brigade, bilang “asset” isa siya sa kinuhunan ng impormasyon ng “handler” niya o inuutusan kumuha ng impormasyon galing sa pinapatrabaho sa kanya. Alam niya na may pupuntang mga sundalo dun at sinabi niya sa pamangkin niyang kumander.Kaya nagkaroon ng pagpupulong-pulong para mapaghandaan ang gagawin nilang pag-ambush.Sa pag ambush di nila kinakailangan ang marami lalo na’t alam nila kung ilan ang padating na kalaban at pati kung saan sila pupuwesto.
Gokusen: yuko, kung gusto nilang imbistigahan yun, simula pa lang, dahil di nga ba isang “agent” ng nbi ang nagsabi na may tumawag sa kanya at sinabi nga na kinidnap si Father Bossi, kaso nawala din sa “limelight” at ang pumaper nga eh si “barcena” dun palang may maamoy ka na..hawak na ng nbi bakit napunta pa sa pulis ang imbestigasyon?
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Kurakot din kasi, that’s why! Saan ka naman nakakita ng mga pulis na duwag at sila pa ang nagpapayo sa mga testigong tumahimik na lang para hindi na sila habulin pa ng mga kriminal na isusuplong nila!!! Parang pirming may connivance.
I should know. In Dec. 2000, a member of our church critical of an official there was shot to death in broad daylight, connected either sa pulis o AFP. Radio announcer siya and very popular then. Iyong pinsan niya kasama niya at kakilala ang mga bumaril, pero tumahimik na lang. Ayaw tumestigo according to leaders of our church there baka daw barilin hindi lang siya kundi pati na ang lahat ng angkan nila! Tindi di ba? Walang protection! Wow! Nakakakulo ng dugo!!!
Nag-utos si Erap ng investigation, pero walang nangyari kasi by January 2001, tinanggal na siya! Buti na lang nagbigay siya ng pera para sa education ng mga anak ng namatay after leaders of our church from the USA wrote to him.
Hanggang ngayon unsolved ang kasong iyon. Sabi nga ng mga member ng church namin, bahala na ang Diyos na magparusa sa mga pumatay sa radio announcer na iyon. Walang nagawa ang NBI na may ipinadala daw pero useless ang lakad!!! Kunya-kunyarian report yata ang ginawa!!!
gokusen: nagtataka lang ako kung bakit 5,000 or was it 6000 soldiers ang pinadala na lumaban sa lugar ninyo. Are there that many rebels? Sa pook ng pinaglalabanan is the population that many? And the reports we read ..marami daw ang namatay na kalaban..pero wala na man akong nakita na concrete picture of the deaths of the enemies..mukhang fabricated ang reports just like the election reports mukhang sa computer ng military maraming files..na just click the mouse at malaking daga ang aabot ng customized report. ang galing nga nila sa dayaan, pagnanakaw, kasinungalingan at iba pang kabalbalan..ay kalisud..
Valdemar;
You are absolutely right Amigo! Yes, If an unpleasant thought comes, let it go. Don’t get disturbed. Otherwise, We will lose the constant battle waged by our thoughts. It is of no use for us to debate knowing the world, because it is already there, and it has been known and analyzed by many in the past. Our knowledge in regards to America and Japan or in any part of the world can transport us to a higher realm of wisdom, and can come in touch with the collective consciousness. Quarreling over ego is ludicrous.
Tongue;
I read that in your previous post about the Tolentinos, somehow there is an unhappy blogger who criticized it. Buddha was right! You can’t please everyone! Hehehe!
Valdemar,
Yeah you’re right…that’s the reason why i entered this blog to share our sentiments who are victims of the “drama” created by this government. and i’m glad ellenville accepted me ,my thoughts and views, i write my views based on my experiences and research other facts that will corroborate with my personal knowledge of what is really going in, and i write spontaneously. I condensed everything if you observed the way i write. So i share my own personal experiences, digest facts to find my conlusion transparent and ask those who read my entries to help me complete this games of the general. FYI, my family , my relatives are victims of this drama. And this is the only way for now, i know i could be helpful for them, but if opportunity asked me to comeout in the open to testify I am willing to do so and never have any doubt or second thought.Ms. Ellen knows it and some of the rests here.
I am not arguing with you I am just siding my views. Nevertheless, as long as the present government knows how to be fair to all probably and think of what could be the best to correct the history and they allow us “suluanos, basilenos, to live in a peaceful life which we know is the hope of every filipinos. to push the peacetalk set by the OIC, the Tripartite Conference so we can move on. Stop using the Basilenos, Suluanos in the senseless war that ruining everything!
Tule is short for Tolentino. No offense if he has it short.
By the way, that 240 is tossed as an addition to the combat pay that is already half of the basic pay. Thats supposed to go to the wife anyways. The wife can buy a lot of ramen with it already. The meal allowance for the soldier is seperate pay and if one looks at the knapsack when leaving for war it contains small tin cans marked 555. The lobsters and drinks during special occassions are skimmed off from the mess fund of say 5 pesos daily from each soldier on the ground. They are better off when in Manila. Meals are sent in gratis from palace funds during alert periods.
Gokusen;
Keep on writing and share us all the information that stored inside your brain. I enjoyed reading your post to tell you the truth. Although, I am not familiar with some names you mentioned, I just pictured them in my thought that they maybe a bad or a good guys..
Gokusen and Valdemar, you have the same aspiration only on different approach. You don’t talk trash about your fellow Filipinos which is the most important thing a true Filipino must do.
Tita Rose,
di ko alam kung anong logic dun sa dami ng pinadadalang mga sundalo sa amin, sinasabi nila madaming kalaban namamatay, kami ang nakikita namin mas marami ang “civilian” na namamatay. Sabi nga ang sundalo tagapagtanggol at tagapagbantay ng isang bansa laban sa manlulupig. Kung titignan naman di naman nanlulupig yung mga kalaban ng gobyerno dun, kami ang nilulupig ng gobyerno. Maraming sundalo ang namamatay lalo na pag ambush at yun ang gustung-gusto ng mga kalaban nila dahil hanggat maari ayaw nilang may matitirang buhay, kaya nga ang ginagawa ng mga nang-aambush tinitignan talaga lahat ng nakahiga kung patay, kaya nga yung duda sila na buhay eh binabaril pa nila, at masaklap nga eh pupugutan pa ng ulo.
alam ng matataas ng liderato ng afp na advantage ang kalaban dahil kabisado ang terrain, bakit di nila pag-aralan ano ang dapat nilang pang-laban. Bakit di nila unang pag-aralan ang ilapit ang kalooban sa mga civilian..kung malapit sila sa civilian at di takot ang civilian sa kanila kahit anong kabisado pa ng kalaban ang terrain may mga civilian na magtuturo sa mga sundalo ng tamang mga daan. Ang mga tausug particular na, kapag pinakita mo ang tiwala sa kanila buhay nila ibibigay nila sa kapwa nila.
Pero ang ginagawa ng ibang nasa liderato, lalapit sa civilian gagamitin ang mga ito saan sa paghanap ng mga malalaking tao na may patong na milyones na dolyares sa ulo, pagdating ng “reward” nawawala na sa scenario ang mga civilian na ginamit nila, at yung mga ginamit nilang civilian yun pa ang kakasuhan nila.
Maraming namundok di dahil masama sila, marami ang walang kasalanan at sinikil ng gobyerno, maraming napagbintangan di naman nila gigawa ang kasalanan. Ang abu sayyaf di naman talaga yan simula na “terrorista” , si abdurajak janjalani isang uztadz at ang nasa isip niya ang ang puro bagay na islam, nagkaroon lang ng “utak” kawalanghiyaan, ng pumasok na si Edwin Angeles at Abu Sabaya , pati na si Wahab akbar.
sila ang nagturo sa mga abu sayyaf ng kalanghiyaan.
si Edwin Angeles ay “asset” ng pnp na nag-double agent, si sabaya naman ay isang capt. sa naval na kaya maraming narecruit ng una dahil sinabi nila na nagrerecruit ulit na gustong pumasok sa “integration” kaya nga dahil sa ganung paniniwala maraming “mnlf” ang sumama sa unang batch ng recruitment dahil maraming gustong maging “integrees”…hanggang sa dumating ang hostage sa sipadan na mga militar talaga ang nagkidnap at pagkakidnap ay ipinasa naman kina Abu Sabaya. At dun na nagsimula ang paghingi ng mga ransom money.
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Habang papalaki ng papalaki ang organisasyon hindi na kontrolado at kanya-kanya na ang labasan ng vested interest ng bawat isa , sa mga ibang liderato ng abu sayyaf, sa gobyerno at sa mga militar. Nang matunugan ng mga ibang utak kriminal din sa gobyerno at militar na magaling at pinakamagandang negosyo ang pagkidnap at paghingi ng ransom ginamit na nila ng husto ang Abu. Wala naman pakialam ang mga lideratong iba ng abu dahil ang katwiran nila kung sino ang nagbibigay ng financial na tulong para sa simulain nila, wala silang pakialam kung anuman ang ipagawa sa kanila.
Si Edwin Angeles din ang nanghudas kay Abdurajak Janjalani at siya rin ang daan para mahuli si Khadaffy Janjalani na bunso sa tatlong Janjalani, si Hector ay siya ang nakakulong sa Taguig at siya ang kinunan ng “tissue” na ginamit sa pag dna sa bangkay ni Khadaffy ng US para mapatunayan nga na ang itinuturong bangkay ay si Khadaffy nga.
Si Edwin Angeles din ang isa sa nakakaalam ng mga bombahan pang international lalo na yung 9-11 ay siya rin ang dahilan sa pagkamatay ni Abdurajak Janjalani. Pero sa pagiging “double agent” niya dun na siya nagkaroon ng problema at kinakailangan na siya i’liquidate ng mga kasamahan niya. Ang sabi ng gobyerno mga “abu” ang pumatay kay Edwin Angeles pero ang totoo mga militar ang pumatay sa kanya. Ang asawa ni Edwin Angeles ay matagal ng maysakit at ng mamatay si Edwin at kasalukuyang siya naman ay nasa ospital ay gumawa siya ng testimonya sa alam niya tungkol sa mga trabaho at mga sabwatan ng gobyerno. Ginawa niya yun dahil sa alam niya na isusunod na rin siyang ipapatay ng nagpapatay kay Edwin. Yung “transcript” ng mga sinabi niya habang naka-confined siya sa ospital ay pinadala sa america subalit hanggang sa ngayon ay di na namin alam kung ano na ang nangyari dahil nagkaroon din ito ng imbistigasyunan sa senado…
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Dun sa mga ransom money na pinadadaan sa gobyerno, hinahati yun sa 3 bahagi, sa gobyerno, militar at sa mga abu. Marami sa “parte” ng mga “abu” ang ibinigay ay fake na dollars at mga limang sako yung alam namin na ibinaon nila Kumander Robot na “fake dollars” yung namang mga totoo, may nagagastos din sila pero, takot yung ibang abu na gastusin dahil may nakapagsabi sa kanila na “marked money” yung natitira kaya si “kumander robot” din ang humawak nito na mahigit mga $7M pa na ng makuha ng gobyerno si Kumander Robot sa labanan na naging sanhi para maputulan siya ng paa, iniwan niya yung pera kay “Albader Parad” at hangga ngayon ay na kay Albader pa rin at di nila ginagastos dahil sa pag-aakala nilang marked money nga yung natitirang milyones na dolyares. Si “kumander robot” ay personal aide ni Gov. Sakur Tan ng Sulu, yung pangyayari ng napatay sina Kumander Robot, Kumander Kosovo at ibang ASG sa Taguig, ay ginawa ng gobyerno, dahil gusto ng “kumanta” si kumander robot at sabihin ang mga nalalaman niya at sabihin kung sino sino ang naghahati-hati sa ransom money. Pinatay sila sa kulungan at ang sinabi ng gobyerno ay sila ang nagsimula ng gulo sa loob ng kulungan. Isa sa namatay dun ay dating mnlf, na tauhan ng isa kong kamag-anak na mnlf at ng marinig niya sa radyo ang nangyayaring gulo sa Taguig, dahil nagkataon lumuwas siya ng Maynila para bisitahin ang kamag-anak niya sa Maharlika Village sa Taguig at dadalawin din niya sa kulungan yung tauhan niya noong nasa mnlf pa sila ay kasama sa namatay. Pagkatapos ng “commotion” nakatiempo siyang makapasok, dahil may mga pulis dun na nakilala siya na mga muslim din, at dahil respetado siya ng mga yun nakalusot siyang makapasok, nakita niya na ang halos patay ay ang mga abu sayyaf at karamihan ng tama ng bala ay sa likod. Namatay ang mga ito, na nakataas ang mga kamay na katunayang di lumalaban. Pero di na nakita sa media yun dahil dumating agad sina Angelo Reyes at nilinis ang mga pangyayari at pinalabas na ang mga abu na nakakulong ang nagsimula ng kaguluhan.
balik tayo dun sa pangyayari sa Tipo-Tipo ..mamaya…to be continued…ulit !
Gokusen: Thanks for telling us your side. Kasi ang alam lang namin is based on what we read sa media. The gov’t made a total mess indeed of the situation. I agree with you not because namundok ang isang tao ay masama na or a fugitive nagtatago. The impression I get is mas maraming terrorists sa Maynila..they seem to be moving in the same circle..at ipinaglalaruan lang ang kabuhayan ng mga ordinaryong citizen. Like in your place the civilians are the victims..and the gov’t just don’t think so or they refuse to look at the truth..I do pray that you will be kept safe..pero ingat lang..
DinaPinoy: Try talangka..mas masarap kay sa lobster. It is great to be a Pilipino, and I am proud to be a Pilipino..Bisaya pa..putot maybe (but so is GMA 4’11) mas payat ako kasi walang laman ang bulsa ko..kahit sa kahirapan naka ngiti pa rin..hindi maasim ang mukha..crab mentality? that is what you probably will say..pero ok lang if that is what you think..I don’t know you anyway and I don’t care what you think..but just try the poor man’s diet..talangka na punong puno ng alege..it is a delicacy out of this world..only a poor Filipino could say that..
gokusen,
Please don’t be offended. Its no joke getting those thorns out of your chest. Rizal wrote his sentiments that had moved so many that led to our new beginnings as Filipinos. Sad to say everything failed yet.
I do have special respect and affection towards you all in that patch of the world. We talked of a radical blueprint back in 2001 for an expanded ARRM truly independent and offer the U.S. a base there. Then the U.S. can remove the wrinkles with the commonwealths nearby for the return of Sabah lock, stock, and barrel. But…
Your research is splendid. You can move mountains. I will look forward to another Republic or what ever you may call your new home later. Hope you will invite me to the new base commissary one day soon.
Going through the proper channel:
wesmincom chief Lt. Gen. Cedo and Brig. Gen. Sabban on orders of the AFP chief of staff Gen. Esperon by the blessing of commander in-chief (the president hersef), the aircraft was recalled which were supposed to provide air support to the dying poor soldiers against what the arroyo government called as “friendly forces – MILF” for some reason.
now, who is that “someone” then we think of, who gave the “recall order” as confirmed by col. Alivio in his ABR? would it not be the “chief of staff gen. esperon” himself if you try to go step by step to that channel? with of course with the “go signal” from the evil president gloria.
Valdemar,
I’m not feeling..you offended me! And as you’ve said its no joke getting those thorns out of my chest. And though Rizal wrote his own sentiments that have moved so many that led us to a new beginning as Filipinos. And really sad to say , its true its failed. But, past is past. If we failed again it doesn’t mean we never stand up and look for victory. The important thing is I or we tried ..and be optimistic to see that at the end of the day I share the smallest mean that I could do to change the thinking of those people about us…and I know its not an overnight task..no matter how hard to wait for the sun to shine on us..we will keep on waiting until we can have it.
But, its not me who will make the republic you’re looking for and we are not looking for a new home which you may call..coz we have our home that being “intrude” and damaged by those “anay” of these society. We know how to eat food that our forefather fed to us, but there are those “vultures” who wanted to eat the food that our “ninuno” was given to us..
And don’t worry with all my, your and our pleasures, we will invite you to come and visit our remodelled house ..Be our Guest!
Cocoy,
Thanks!
“Esperon said the military plans to turn the Abu Sayyaf into a negligible group in Basilan in two months.”
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general esperon, here are 4 things you need to remember in your “plan” of combat for you to attain your goal:
1. “plan” your mission
2. “act” according to item-1
3. “assess” the results of item-2, and
4. “correct” any mistakes of the above
“Esperon said the military plans to turn the Abu Sayyaf into a negligible group in Basilan in two months.”
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nagpapatawa ka talaga gen. esperon kahit kelan! maybe you are telling for another “two decades” !
Gokusen
Tama ba itong pagkakaintindi ko sa iyo;
Civilian = Good
MNLF = Good
MILF – Good / Bad
OIC = Good
Former or other MNLF = Bad
Former or other MILF = Bad
Abu Sayaf = Bad
Philippine government = Bad
US government = Bad
So kung tama itong pagkakaintindi ko, how will the peacetalks set by the OIC, and the Tripartite Conference satisfy itong mga “bad” na elements, maliban lang siguro ang Philippine and US governement? Kung sakali na mai-tayo ang isang autonomous na Mindanao, tatahimik na ba ang mga ibat-ibang muslim na grupo or magiging internal na lang ba ang gulo? Mai susuko ba ng MILF at Abu Sayaf ang mga layunin nila? Kung talagang perwisyo sa MNLF at mga civilian ang Abu Sayaf, bakit parang walang sagupaan na nangyayari between the armed groups?
From Rep. Roilo Golez:
The order to defeat in three years Muslim rebels, terrorists and communist insurgents is a tough assignment. It will be more doable if teh AFP is gioven more equipment to fulfill its mission and it is assisted by otehr line departmetns and offices that are suposed to deliver basic services inthe countrysides especially public works, agri, health,local govt, justice the courts,the police, education, agrarian reform, environment, water, housing, transport, and social services.
The battle msut we waged in all fronts, not just by military means but by the delivery of basic services. I agree that humanitarian efforts must be used.
Continuation of Golez’ statement:
Among the frist priority for the military should be mobility to enable it to strike fast and strike hard. I propose that it be given a minimum of 100 Hueys. There are still many good, serviceable Hueys in the world market.
Hueys are very cost effective and better than the expensive modern helicopters. They can also perform civic action duties like medical evacuation, rescue and relief during disasters to further jsutify their acquisition.
100 Hueys would amount to P3- 5 billion, not much compared to the megabillion economic drain caused by the insurgency.
Besides the Philippine military, in relative terms, has the lowest budget among the armed forces of the world, although our armed forces are among the most combat-exposed during the past 60 years due to various threats.
ahhhhhhh… gokusen, napagod at sumakit mga mata ko sa pagbabasa sa mga kwento mo. napakaganda siguro kung isa-sadula ang mga yon tapos ibibigay kay AT4 para pagsama samahin yong sa kanya. salamat, para tuloy akong naglakbay sa mindanao nito.
Thanks, Ellen.. I think your statement sums it all up.
napansin ko ang dami ata nagkakatampuhan ngayon at nagkakasamaan ng loob? paano tayo mananalo pag ganyan mga kasama, dapat nagkakaisa tayo. mahalaga ang pagkakaunawaan ng bawat isa, paminsan minsan alisin natin yong mga pride na iyan.
“Bakit di nila unang pag-aralan ang ilapit ang kalooban sa mga civilian..kung malapit sila sa civilian at di takot ang civilian sa kanila kahit anong kabisado pa ng kalaban ang terrain may mga civilian na magtuturo sa mga sundalo ng tamang mga daan. Ang mga tausug particular na, kapag pinakita mo ang tiwala sa kanila buhay nila ibibigay nila sa kapwa nila.”
gokusen, maraming maraming salamat sa pagbibigay diin mo sa puntong ito.
many times in the past and up to this posting, i’ve been emphasizing the “naked attitude” of the taosugs when it comes to dealing with people who respect their culture, religion and beliefs. am a living example of a nobody who happened to taste their incomparable hospitality and affection that are sometimes taken advantaged of by people who do not care for others.
ak-47, ‘sensiya na, bagong gising kasi ako kaya nakalimot na hindi na mag-iingles!
But where in the world would you find Marines raising funds to supplement their low pay and benefits, except in this so-called “strong republic!” Sadly, Somera may be the first beneficiary of his project since he himself was killed in battle. – Larry Faraon, OP
Gokusen,
I’m glad that you’re still here. Although i’m not posting for quite a time, I’ve been reading some of your posts from time to time, and it enlightened me more about the Land of Promise where i was born.
Thanks a lot. Mabuhay ka!
Humanitarian daw. BS! “Charity begins at home,” so the old adage goes. I doubt if the Moslems would ban together in fact if the Philippine government like the one the present one has not been oppressive and shown more concern for the displaced among them who have become preys to those who have and can promise them better lives and existence.
Golly, ang dami nang nahinging abuloy sa iba’t ibang panig ng daigdig, wala pa ring improvement. Puro yabang lang. And what a crap that this government of donation seekers (pati charity industry ang labas!) would even claim “humanitarian invasion” even when it is ready to annihilate thousands and thousands of Filipinos in Mindanao, both Moslems and Christians. Sinong niloloko nila?
Gokusen,
Hay salamat at may continuation. Alam mo ba na sumulat sa akin ang isang amiga asking me if I’m aware that “someone exposes the truth about Basilan unfortunate incident” at Ellen’s blog. She told me to read from the beginning. heheh!
Anyway, kasama pala ni Wahab Akbar na pumulot ng mga pugot na ulo ng mga kakawang sundalo ang kanyang asawa, sino…ang gobernadora na kasama ni Gloria na nage-enjoy sa kuratsa/lobster?
Ellen:
I would like to suggest to Congressman Goilez to please make new laws to insure quality service for the little people in the military, even just to give them more incentives to be better soldiers.
Best is for him to make a law that will define much better and clearer their duties and responsibilities—mainly to protect the country from outside invasion.
Running after hoodlums, etc. should be the responsibility of the police. There should be a separate agency to handle police works even in the provinces.
Even in the US for example, the national guards are used only for national emergencies but even then, police works are left to the police, which is not part and parcel of the US Armed Forces.
The good Congressman should be aware of this as a matter of fact having been educated in the US. Sa tingin ko naman mas marunong siya kesa kay FVR!!!
“…yung pangyayari ng napatay sina Kumander Robot, Kumander Kosovo at ibang ASG sa Taguig, ay ginawa ng gobyerno, dahil gusto ng “kumanta” si kumander robot at sabihin ang mga nalalaman niya at sabihin kung sino sino ang naghahati-hati sa ransom money. Pinatay sila sa kulungan at ang sinabi ng gobyerno ay sila ang nagsimula ng gulo sa loob ng kulungan.”
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Gokusen,
Meron pa bang natitirang buhay na tauhan sin Kum. Robot?
Napakalalim ng problemang ito dahil sa nasa “ugat” na ng ilang tauhan ng gobyerno, mostly military officials, na hindi papayag na sila ay matunton.
Ang simpleng gera sa isip ni Gloria at Assperon ay hindi mareresolba ang problema na sila ay tuwirang sangkot.
Mapatay man nila ang lahat ng abu at kaaway ay pisikal lang nila itong mapapatahimik pero ang mga mabubuhay na katotohanan, na sasaluhin ng mga susunod na heherasyon, ay patuloy na magiging hadlang sa magandang kinabukasan ng Mindanao.
Ituloy ang tripartite, bigyan ito ng tsansa na maging daan ng kapayapaan sa Mindanao!
“Habang papalaki ng papalaki ang organisasyon hindi na kontrolado at kanya-kanya na ang labasan ng vested interest ng bawat isa , sa mga ibang liderato ng abu sayyaf, sa gobyerno at sa mga militar.”
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Gokusen,
That explains well the gera-gerahan ni Gloria. Kailangan ng pagtakpan.
No secret remains burried forever, thanks.
I believe Gokusen. I have heard of how the police in the Philippines get rid of criminals ready to cry on corrupt officials getting killed while in detention, It is something unthinkable in more progressive societies where the rights and privileges of the suspect and/or accused are adequately honored, respected and protected, but definitely not in the Philippines, especially now with a criminal leading the country to perdition.
You bet, there should have been investigations on the killings of those kumanders while in incarceration. Dapat managot iyong mga prison guards!
BTW, Gokusen, I’m confiling your expose and will post them in the egroups I moderate or have joined. Time to expose these crooks. Ingat ka!
Rose, Gokusen,
My 2 cents worth, kaya 5,000/6,000 troops ang pinadala duon ni Gloria ay panakot lang!
Saka remember, naga-alburuto ang mga sundalo/marines? Ayan ang solusyon ni Gluerilla at Asspweron, ipadala sila duon dahil sa paranoid ang kambal-tuko na sila ay makukurukukok!
Mga supot talaga.
Sorry, this should read, “I doubt if the Moslems would bond together in fact…”
I know a lot many Moslem Filipinos, who do not support violence, etc. but they are forced to support their brothers in the mountains more out of disgust for the present government made more corrupt with a criminal heading it.
I find them more patriotic and committed to worthy causes for better Philippines, for as one has told me, “Iyan lang naman ang bansa ko!”
Gokusen,
Maraming salamat sa iyong paglalahad sa tunay na naging kaganapan diyan sa Basilan.
Dapat lamang talagang matakot ang mga taong may kinalaman at naging dahilan sa pagkamatay ng mga marines. Matuloy sana ang pagdinig sa Senado na ayon kay Senator AT4 ay sangkot ang matataas na kawani sa administration ni Blinky Tiyanak.
I read news about $20 M ransom money paid by Libyan strongman Muammar Khadaffy. Top Southcom commanders had a feast day from Libya’s blood money. Greed has no boundaries.
Lamitan Fiasco 2002: Abu Sayyaf and AFP collusion
www2.hs.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20020201IE9
Susmaryosep, Pampaglish ang labas. This should read, “compiling” instead of “confiling.” No such word in English! Nagaya na doon sa nakausli ang nguso pag nagsalita lahat parang “f” pati iyong “p” di bale sana kung “ph”! Sorry!
Ellen,
Smooth blogging here na naman as of the moment. Mahirap lang pumasok pag may magulo at nanggugulo! We’ll see mamaya. Will monitor from my side. I will switch on my monitoring devise while I’m in my own territory.
I did not have problem, though, when I was in the US. I was using wireless at tatlo-tatlo pa ang connections. Non-tractable siguro because I did not have problem getting into your blog there. Or, the guy monitoring me must have thought I would not have access to your blog anyway kaya hindi ako binantayan.
Gusto pa yatang magkaroon ng virtual extrajudicial killing! Ang tindi!
Iyan ang dapat na ibawal, not the “wiretapping” of the illegal conversation between phone pals, Garci and Gloria Dorobo!
Among the things that is fascinating about Ellenville is the host of posters with sharp eyes having sharp tongues (no reference to TT). Along with being regaled with fresh tales (fairy and otherwise) this feature should persuade Titser, as it did with me, to stay, sit and persevere.
The sizzling grapevine about the Angara – Legarda tattle-tale is an amusing bit. I did not vote for either, for specific reasons – a vote for Legarda is wasted (a sure winner) so I substituted a Kapatiran non-politico. Angara did not get my vote because his bad decisions, especially his egregious siding with Ate Glue’s Team Unity, more than outweighed his numerous accomplishments.
Takusa,
Gokusen
Tama ba itong pagkakaintindi ko sa iyo;
Civilian = Good
MNLF = Good
MILF – Good / Bad
OIC = Good
Former or other MNLF = Bad
Former or other MILF = Bad
Abu Sayaf = Bad
Philippine government = Bad
US government = Bad
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Yup, civilian kasi lahat nagdudusa. Kaya nga kung “sincere” lang ang administration lalo na “babae” ang Presidente natin at isang “ina” ng mga anak at “lola” ng mga apo niya. Bilang isang isang “ina” alam niya kung papano niya palalakihin ang kanyang mga anak. At didisiplinahin. Ang isang mabuting ina, pantay-pantay dapat ang tingin sa mga anak. kung sino ang medyo “problemado” niyang anak, yun ang pag-iisipan niya yun ang titignan niya kung papano niya makukuha ang kalooban at diplomasyahin para wag itong mag rebelde. Inaalam anong tamang approach para yung anak niyang problema sa lahat maakay niya at mapangunahan maitama sa daan dapat lakaran. Di niya gagawin sa anak niya kahit anong “tigas ng ulo” ang ipabugbog ito o ipagalaw sa iba niyang anak, proprotektahan niya at itutuwid ang tama..kahit anong hirap at tagal ang maging puhunan niya para lang maidala sa tama ang “anak na rebelde” tiya-tyagain niya dahil ‘yun ang isang ina..di nga ba walang nakatiis na ina sa sariling anak?
Ganun ang nararamdaman namin, wala kaming nakikitang “pagmamahal” bakit namin siya mamahalin! Hindi niya alam kung ano ang pagrespeto, bakit namin siya irerespeto?
Si Erap…mabuting ama para sa amin kasi nakita at binigyan niya ng pagpapahalaga kung ano kami, di ko sinasabing “perpekto” siya, di naman kinakailangan maging “perpekto” dahil wala naman nun…may puso siya, nararamdaman niya kung ano ang nararamdaman namin, may tenga siya nakikinig sa amin, may mata siya nakikita kung ano ang nangyayari, may bibig siya para sabihin ang damdamin, naririnig, at nakikita niya sa amin…nakakakita kami ng pag-asa. Pero wala eh, naulila kami agad na hindi pa kami handa…nagkaroon kami ng “foster parent” na kaya pala kami inampon para ipagbili…pahirapan at pagkakitaan…
Yung gusto namin na dapat umampon sa amin at alam namin itutuloy ang nasimulan ni erap…dinaya pa kasabwat ng mga kasing “utak” nila…mga “kapatid” naming kalansing na pera lang ang alam pakinggan, at tunog ng ingay ng baril ang kinikilala…kung isang “fairy tale” lang ang istorya ng mindanao…para kaming si “cinderella” na may stepmother at stepsisters na walanghiya…sino naman kaya ang aming “fairy godmother”? para we live happily everafter!
Kuya Iking,
Pasensiya na kung sumakit mata mo kakabasa…patakan mo na lang ng visine o eye mo..oh kaya lagyan mo ng pipino para maipahinga mo at para mabasa mo ulit ang mga novela ko..don’t missed any series ….thanks!
menok,
i’ve forgot you to thanks dun sa kabilang thread…thank you ha!
Mrivera,
Thanks..oo kasi nga yung iba misinformed eh! Porke’t akala nila matatapang ang mga Tausug di nila alam sa kabila nung pinapakitang tapang eh may mabubuting kalooban…pero un nga eh nagagamit yung ugali na yun sa di magandang paraan…
Sampot,
gat andito me sa may internet makakapag-post pa ako..kung wala ka na mabasa post ko dun na ulit ako sa amin….
Chi,
OO may mga tauhan pa si kumander robot, at yun ang kasama sa grupo ni Albader…kaso nga lalo tumindi galit nila kasi namatay si Kumander Robot at alam nila na pinatay ng walang kalaban-laban. Isipin mo naman, putol pareho ang paa, papano yun kakalaban..saka yung mga “guard” dun sa jail wala na yun lahat, tinanggal at yung iba inalis, pinalitan na kaya yung mga nakakaalam ng totoo na mga nasa jail takot magsalita. Kaya lalo nadaragdagan yung galit…imbis na mabawasan…
Yuko,
thanks ha…and okey lang yun..!
Emilio,
Salamat din! Siguro kung simpleng tao lang yung gumawa ng krimen una na ang malakanyang gagawa at maguutos buksan ang investigation at di sila kokontra sa senado..kaso nga pano sila papayag kung sa kanila nagsimula para magkaroon ng “krimen”…? Pero naniniwala pa rin naman tayo na darating ang tamang panahon mananagot ang may sala..kahit papano naniniwala tayo sa mapayapang paraan..binigyan na sila ng simpleng pagpapakita ng damdamin ng mga pilipino ang pagkapanalo ni Sen. Trillanes 11M di yun daya, di binayaran, hindi hinakot, malinis ang paglaban..ikumpara dun sa ilang milyon nagpunta sa edsa 2 at edsa 1…sino ang hindi kakabahan?
Chi,
Regards dun sa “amiga” mo…alam ko malaking tulong itong blog para malaman yung side namin at di naman kami kinokondena ng iba…at saka baka mabasa rin ito nung nasa malakanyang at magiging bukas ang mata at isipan niya di pa naman huli ang lahat..dahil kung puro baril, bomba, ang gagamitin niyang pang-disiplina sa mga taoa sa amin…di matatapos ang lahat….pag-aralan niya ang “history” ….
“Bakit di nila unang pag-aralan ang ilapit ang kalooban sa mga civilian..kung malapit sila sa civilian at di takot ang civilian sa kanila kahit anong kabisado pa ng kalaban ang terrain may mga civilian na magtuturo sa mga sundalo ng tamang mga daan. Ang mga tausug particular na, kapag pinakita mo ang tiwala sa kanila buhay nila ibibigay nila sa kapwa nila.”
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Sundan kita, Mrivera. Yup, sa iyo ko unang narinig dito sa Ellenville na ang ang mga Tausug ay mabubuting tao at mapapagkatiwalaan. Matatandain pa ako, over a year na ‘yun.
Tama ang sabi ni Gokusen, marapat lang na kaibiganin ng mga sundalo ang mga sibilyan kasi sila ang pinaka-short cut na maaaring magturo sa mga lugar ng kaaway. Good point, Gokusen.
Gokusen,
Palagay ko ay meron nang mga sumusubaybay sa iyong mga posts dito from EK. Hot na hot sila sa Ellenville, walang nakakaligtas na impormasyon. Ingat!
Hayaan mo at pag-uwi ko ay pakikilala kita sa kanya.
“Ganun ang nararamdaman namin, wala kaming nakikitang “pagmamahal” bakit namin siya mamahalin! Hindi niya alam kung ano ang pagrespeto, bakit namin siya irerespeto?”
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Si Gluerilla ay hindi Ina ng Bayan, s’ya ay ina ng mga korap lang!
The fake president is all air, mabahong air! Wala tayong aasahan sa babaeng iyan na taboo sa kanya ang salitang respeto.
Funny, Gokusen, that you should mention that Erap was good for the Moslems. Ironically, the Moslems in Mindanao were used by the group led by the Midget to have Erap’s reputation destroyed.
I remember him being called “berdugo ng mga Moslems” before and during the impeachment with all those propaganda in Philippine newspapers against him. They were actually saying that Erap was about to annihilate the Moslems in Mindanao and they needed to be saved from him.
We did not hear of soldiers then being massacred by the AFP. Now, we hear of them being left to be massacred by the heirarchy in the AFP, and the innocent Moslems still blamed for such apparent “planned negligence” that they now call “humanitarian invasion.”
Nakakalito as a matter of fact. Without your narrative, hilong talilong ang lahat although on my part, I can get ahold of more reliable feedbacks than the non-Arroyo media can provide.
Ingat ka! Regards to Nur. I hope he still remembers “Suki.”
Now it seems it’s getting clear why Alivio was relieved. it’s not because he was not with his men during the battle, as what coward Esperon has given as the reason, but because Alivio started sharing to his men what really transpired and who is really behind the conflict in Mindanao.
valdermar says: “They are better off when in Manila. Meals are sent in gratis from palace funds during alert periods.”
valdemar, for palace guards, maybe. but for those assigned in different camps, there is no such free meals sent by the magnanakaws inside the bahay na bato by the stinking pasig river. do you think gloria would spend a single centavo from her allocation just to feed the soldiers during alert periods?
you must have forgotten that gloria wants ONLY to be served, fed and satisfy her greed! she maybe promising heaven and earth when she delivers her make-believe addresses most especially if she wants to impress and win the sympathy of her audience, but in reality PURO PAMBOBOLA at PANLOLOKO lamang ang sinasabi ng bruha! ‘yun pa kayang maglabas siya ng pera?
naku! eh, magkakasakit si gloria kung mababawasan ang limpak na kinurakot nilang mag-anak!
Gokusen, grabe din naman pala ang mga “problemadong” anak ng Pilipinas. Ang bilang ko sa mga terrorist attack na nakaturo sa MILF, Abu Sayaf etc.. umaabot ng 192 ayon sa Global Terrorism Database ng University of Maryland mula ng June 1998 hangang Jan 2001 (term ni Erap) Target din pati Private Citizens, Property, Business, Transportation, Religious Figures/Institutions, Journalists & Media. Sa tingin ko hindi lang mapag mahal na ina ang kailangan kung hindi isang tatay na may makapal na sinturon.
eto ang isang uri ng kawalanghiyaang hindi dapat na pinalalampas:
8 kids psychologically tortured by military–ARMM agency
By Julie Alipala
Mindanao Bureau
Last updated 03:49pm (Mla time) 08/26/2007
ZAMBOANGA CITY–Eight children, ages 4 to 16 years old, were allegedly subjected to psychological torture by government soldiers in Indanan, Sulu.
Bai Racma Imam, secretary of the Department of Social Welfare and Development in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (DSWD-ARMM), was furious after receiving reports of the arrest and psychological torture of the children.
A 13-year-old girl (name withheld) told CBCC members that she and two other children witnessed how soldiers tortured their fathers.
“Tinutukan ng baril sa ulo ang tatay nila sa harap nila mismo habang napapaluha ang mga tatay nila,” Tulawie said. [They witnessed guns being pointed at the heads of their crying fathers.]
The girl also described how the soldiers treated them.
“Tinutukan din sila ng patalim sa leeg nila kasama yung 6 at 4 years old na mga bata. Naka-bonnet mask ang mga sundalo. Tinanong sila kung nasaan ang baril ng tatay nila at pinagsabihan pa sila na maghukay na ng kanilang libingan,” Tulawie added. [A jungle knife was thrust against the necks of the children, even the six and four-year-olds. The soldiers were wearing bonnet masks. The kids were asked where their fathers’ guns were being hidden and they were told to dig up their graves.]
Tulawie said the victims, out of fear, immediately left Sulu.
www:newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view_article.php?article_id=84781
naging mga halang na ang kaluluwa ng mga sundalong binulag ng galit sa mga hindi nila kilalang kaaway. nakalimutan nilang ang tunay na dapat nilang mga pagbalingan ng ngitngit ay nasa malamig na kuwarto sa malakanyang at opisina sa kampo aguinaldo.
http://www.newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view_article.php?article_id=84781
Ellen,
I’m posting your article on the gera-gerahan in my egroups for distribution to all concerned Filipinos.
Time for everybody to know the truth that a lot many media people there know but are afraid to expose or talk about, papatayin kasi! Ingat ka!
Yesterday, I had our backyard weeded and the trees trimmed. Today, as I was about to burn the leaves, I got hold of old newspapers to start the fire. But instead, I found myself reading the frontpage of Inquirer’s April 21 issue.
That was three weeks before the elections.
On the cover was a picture of seven bodies stacked at the back of a truck. It was the 7 construction workers of Gov. Loong’s company that included 2 teenagers who thought their income from that summer job would help them in the coming enrolment’s expenses. Two teenagers who probably had enough of the murders and wars, thinking rightly that education was the only way out. Their dreams were ended by Abu Sayyaf bandits who failed to get any ransom from Loong.
The headline was even more eye-catching. “GMA: Obliterate Abu Sayyaf”
I didn’t believe before this our memories were really short. Just four months ago, the order was already given. Yet in July, our bird-brained generals thought straying inside Abu lair was as safe as strolling at Baywalk. They didn’t even get to strike back because they might hit their “friends”, unbelievable!
The hollow-headed mutant turtle Esperon is even asking for two months to silence the Abu Sayyaf. Brainless slowpoke, what did he do since April 21?
I say, his inaction and/or procrastination cost the lives of many soldiers, why don’t they charge him in the friggin military courts?
Thanks, Yuko. I’ll post it here later.
Tongue,
Thanks for that story of kababuyan ni Asspweron.
As we have been discussing here, the gera-gerahan ni Gloria is pointing towards the US aids which was reportedly cut in half.
Tingnan mo iyang pinambalot ng tinapa galing sa suki natin at ngayon ay pinaguusapan nila na wala raw cut kung maaari, nagmamakaawa sa mga US Senators, na dumalaw kahapon sa Mindanao in support of the war, na dagdagan pa!
Nagkamatay na ang mga sundalo/marines at diplaced ang mga civilians and yet, “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” sa military aids ng US ang puntos ng usapan.
Magno,
Mas malulungkot ka kung makita mo ang mga batang Moslem sa Baguio na biktima ng child slavery. Brainwashing? Matagal na iyan! Tinatakot nga sila e.
Gen. Alivio’s admission is quadruple bullshit!! Gaddemit!! somebody’s head must roll..
BTW, I remember the movie The Last Castle of Robert Redford..I hope not to see Marine Generals in the Brig again..
“WE ARE YOUR MARINES. WE FOLLOW THE LONELY PATH OF VALOR AND SACRIFICE. YOU PAY OUR SALARIES BUT WE REPAYED IT W/ OUR LIVES”..
“WE ARE NOT HERE TO REASON WHY, BUT SIMPLY TO FOLLOW AND SOMETIMES DIE” RAH! RAH! RAH!GO MARINES GO!!!
TT,
Ung beheading na yan, tingin namin “politics” eh, kasi ganito yan, after guo sa Marang , yung pagbomba ng MNLF sa Panamao, at di pa tahimik ha naglalaban pa rin ang MNLF at Militar nun, biglang pumutok si “albader” nangkidnap, at nanghihingi ng ransom, nagtaka kami bakit mga weeks lang eh nabalita na ngang yung mga hostage ni Albader eh pinugutan niya ng ulo, na puro taga Zamboanga City yung mga trabahador dun at yung “project” na yun eh kay dating Gov. Ben Loong at mismong dun pa sa bayan niya.
Ang “trick” dun, ang ginamit na sasakyan ni Albader sa pagdala dun sa mga pinugatan ng ulo eh yung sasakyan ng “health center” tapos dumaan pa mismo sa tapat ng “checkpoint ng militar ,wala lang. At mismo si Albader ang nagdrive nung van. Alam mo yung wala lang parang o eto mga patay hala bahala na kayo jan…ganun…at nagulat kami bakit ang bilis namugot mukhang may pinapakita na naman na laro ‘yung iba sinasabi nila ang mga MNLF daw ang nagpugot..pero mabuti naman sa pagkakataon na yun si Gen. Rafael eh nagsalita na malayo ang lugar nila Uztadz dun sa pinangyarihan ng pugutan. At yun talagang umeksena personal si Albader. Nakakapagtaka bakit walang nangyari dun….yung nanay ni albader labas masok sa brigade, may koneksyon sila dun..kaya nalalaman ni Albader kung magkakaroon ng operation sa kanya dahil may nagsasabi tulad din sa Basilan..kasi kung gusto talagang makuha sina Albader ilang bagsak lang ng matitinding bomba sa campo nito ubos lahat ang mga yan..at puro mga bata ang recruits ni Albader..yun bang 7 napugutan kaiba ba sa 10 na napugutan sa basilan? Yung mga civilian na pinugutan ng ulo ni albader may nangyari bang katarungan? Wala, naghahanap buhay lang ang mga yun dumayo sa jolo para pang tustos sa ikakabuhay ng pamilya…may ginawa ba si GMA? ayun pa kyut sa media puro press release…makakain ba ng mga tao press releases nila?
Gokusen,
Sa dami nang pinugutan ng ulo ni Aldaber, aba e ginagawa na lang niya itong libangan a!
Walang utos na bombahin ang kuta ni Aldaber dahil kailangan pa siya ng mga may vested interest.
Gokusen is the woman of the hour of this blog. She’s all over this blog in every thread. I have one wish; that is, for Gokusen to tell us a bit more about herself. I don’t know about the others, but I know so little about her. All I know is she’s a Muslim, and with us in this crusade. I would like to know more about her background and how she knows so much about what’s going on over that place. I also fear for her safety as much as I do for Ellen. If an Internet Brigade really exists, the two might be in trouble.
goji,
if you observed the way i blog, i don’t do on things that i don’t have much knowledge, right? i’ve told in the other thread kahit natutulog ako at tanungin ako masasagot ko…Kung may mga high profiled man o whatever, di ako nakikipag-compete ..this is the only smallest mean right now that i could do to let the people know the scenario in our place..am im open to anyone who wanted to see sulu! Kay Allah ko isinalalay ang life ko, siya yung bahalang magbantay at magprotekta tayo, dahil ang tao may hangganan ang kakayahan pero yung nasa Taas Makapangyarihan! Sabi ko nga di ba i know how to pull a trigger..and kung isipin mo na humahawak ng M14 na dulo ng cigarette ang pinatatamaan..but never ako nagkaroon ng personal na baril, kasi naniniwala ako na kung baril ang panindiganan mo sa baril ka rin mamatay! But, if time comes na magsucceed sino mang utak kriminal eh di naman siguro ipapahintulot..kahit nasa loob ka ng bahay at kapag dumating yung oras mo kahit libu-libo pang guardia sa paligid mo, ilang kilong bullet proof nakalagay sa katawan mo, pag oras mo na naniniwala kami na yun na yung time mo…sa muslim naniniwala kami nararamdaman namin kung yun eh oras na namin…!
and…as long na nasa may internet connection ako, i still make way maka-pag blog…kasi di nga natin alam ano mangyayari..kahit papaano naisulat ko ang dapat kong isulat…napaalam ko sa marami…at hayaan ang bumabasa ang mag-conclude sa mga isinulat ko…para maintindihan kami…!
Matagal ng naubos ang takot ko..ilang beses na nga kaming binagsakan ng bomba na maling karkulasyon ng militar..kami ang tinatarget…pero nakaliligtas pa kami siguro may “purpose” kung bakit..!
Gokusen: pero nakaliligtas pa kami siguro may “purpose” kung bakit..!
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Sinabi mo pa, Gokusen. Sabi nga sa Ecclesiastes “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: • • • I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.” (Eccl. 3: 1, 17)
And for what you are doing, this is most applicable: “Where are they? where are thy wise men? and let them tell thee now, and let them know what the LORD of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt.” (Isa. 19:12)
Ingat!
Goji, why can’t you just confine your comments to issues?
Or are you here just to stalk on a blogger? You have done that when you were NPonggo.
I don’t mind that you are back under another name but will you please stop your obsession over Yuko? It’s annoying.
Re: Gokusen’s Security.
Its much more secure that Gokusen keep her background to herself – we have no need to know more than we already do about her.
WWNL, have you ever heard of counter intelligence? If you think it’s best for Gokusen to keep her background, that’s fine. These days, it’s so hard to distinguish between facts from fiction, good from evil.
Wwnl,
you’re there again? Thanks!
To all,
Thanks alot di ko iisa-isahin names nyo but i know though we dont know each other personally and everyone of us are Filipinos kahit nagkakaroon tayo ng di pagkakaintindihan magkakapatid pa rin tayo…at iisa ang layunin natin kundi sa mapayapang adhikain for a better Philippines..
Ms Ellen,
Ellenville is a great help … this is the boat we are riding kung minsan dumadaan sa matahimik na alon pero may dinadaanan din malalaking alon na nakakamatay..pero alam ko at naniwala ako sa yo..etong “boat ” na sinasakyan natin masiraan man sa gitna ng dagat makakarating pa rin sa kabilang pampang makulangan man tayo sa paglalakbay…!
Maraming salamat sa lahat-lahat!
You bet, Gokusen, bloggers here who are truly concerned about the situation in the Philippines and do really care see eye to eye. Hindi nag-aaway!
No conflict as a matter of fact kahit nagbibiruan na parang nag-aaway, but there is a difference between a true blogger here and one who deliberately tries to bring down healthy discussions here to a brawl intended in fact to discredit the truths and facts being posted here to be shared with everyone so they will not remain in darkness and ignorance.
Kahit saan blogs nandoon ang mga iyan that we suspect to be paid by the Malacanang squatters to make sure that no one knows the truth so that they can continue with their lies. It’s as simple as that. It’s part of the modus operandi to insure that the Dorobos can stay at the palace by the murky river even beyond 2010.
Gokusen,
After what you have been exposing here in Ellenville, do not just trust anybody. It is better that you keep your true identity secret for the meantime. Baka nga ‘ini-intelligence work’ ka na eh. Ingat ka lagi.
Luzviminda: Baka nga ‘ini-intelligence work’ ka na eh. Ingat ka lagi.
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Sinabi mo pa. OK lang na huwag mong i-reveal ang sarili mo Gokusen because we know how dangerous it is to expose yourself now. Almost a thousand na ang biktima ng extrajudicial killing, hindi pa kasama diyan ang mga kinatay na mga sundalong ipinapain sa mga questionable na kalaban!
Pag wala na si unano, balak naming umuwi to celebrate. Right now, kani-kaniya laban where we can fight this bad administration and system. At kani-kaniya nang ingat sa sarili dahil mismong AFP or PNP hindi puedeng pagkatiwalaan!!!
May intelligence no doubt. Kaya nga madalas na lulubog-lilitaw ang blog ni Ellen lalo na kapag sunud-sunod na nagba-blog iyong mga Internet Brigade. Bistado na ayaw pang pabisto kuno sa totoo lang. Ingat kayong nasa Pilipinas!
Murang-mura ang killer-for-hire doon. Dito nga kilalang-kilala ang mga killer-for-hire para doon sa mga gustong makakuha ng pera sa insurance. Noong isang taon dalawa ang kasong hinawakan ko sa hukuman sa Tokyo—kaso ng mga hapon na pinapatay sa Manila for insurance money. Nakakahiya, di ba? Kaya kundi ako tinatanong, di ko sinasabing may lahi akong pilipino!!!
Right now, ang dapat na asikasuhin ay palabasin at papaglingkurin si Senator Trillanes at nang matupad niya ang pangako niya noong eleksyon—sipain ang kriminal, pati na iyong mga kakutsaba niya at man/men behind the throne!!!
Dapat din tulungang makalabas ang mga sundalong nakakulong for defying a criminal. They have taken an oath to be loyal and true to their country and people and pledge allegiance to the Filipino flag, not to a criminal who has trampled upon the Constitution and laws of the land.
Patalsikin Na, Now Na!
Ellen, do you think it was fair for you to delete my reply to your post and then you allowed yours to remain? You know better than that Ellen. If you were embarrassed by by reply, I’m sorry. And if you think you got away with it, you’re wrong. Fairness dictates that you remove your post directed at me because you deleted mine. I don’t mind you deleting my other posts in other threads but not when you made a comment about me above without giving me the chance to post mine so every one could read. You continue to use that trick as if those new bloggers are stupid. They know…but are afraid to even fart.
goji,
hindi lang ikaw o ang post mo ang delete ni ms. ellen marami tayo, yung sa akin man she also deleted kasi sinagot din kita not picking a fight in you..pero okey lang kasi para sa ikakabuti ng lahat! you stated your points so be it…! readers know , magsalita ka man o hindi..pero di para magdagdag sa gulo pa!
Well Gokusen, I can tell straight to your eyes that some like ystakei receive preferential treatment from Ellen. Ellen accused me of stalking ystakei when it’s this big mouth who’s stalking me. Ellen said I’m annoying as if ystakei is not. Ellen doesn’t allow me or those least favored bloggers to criticize ystakei but Ellen allowed her to talk trash about Kapampangan calling these people “dugong aso”. You have read those. You were a witness to those. Ellen needs to clean up her own backyard first before cleaning up others.
goji,
okey you have points as well others, ok tanggapin na natin na ganun nga di naman din ikaw lang ang nakakapansin pero yung mga ibang nakakapansin at di kumikibo di nangangahulugan na kinakampihan..kasi sa issue lang sila…kung ganun siya hayaan mo na lang kasi yun siya eh,hindi naman siguro makakababa sa pagkatao mo di ba kung hayaan mo na lang … as well as ganyan ka naman..maybe namisinterpret mo lang si Ms. ellen..mejo kasi vocal ka pagdating sa kontrahan niyong dalawa…
Gokusen, you’re still new in this blog and may not be aware of how dirty politics here is. Don’t you know that some favored bloggers have direct access to the owner’s phone number? They talk in private. They talk about other bloggers here. They discuss whom to delete and ban. Who knows what the owner received from some bloggers resulting in strong personal relationship? At least I know of one occasion when your Japanese friend sent the owner some kind of a medicine or vitamin. It’s sad Gokusen…these hypocrites show they care about the people and country when they cannot even be fair to bloggers like me here. I hope we don’t get hurt one day finding out they have a different agenda other than removing Arroyo. Believe in the power of pen. Believe in the power of blog like this. Believe in the power of internet. Of course I hope I’m wrong. It’s just getting more and more obvious to me the more I see favoritism in this blog. You don’t know…but it’s been going on for a long time.
goji,
okey, im just new here…for me if i were in your shoes im sorry to say this ha..i will try to reach ms. ellen if others can reach her i know you can do that too? I’ve met ms. ellen, i’ll bet you wala akong narinig sa kanya na nakakasira sa mga nag-blog.confront her…para naman magkaintindihan kayo, lahat ng bagay nadaraan sa paguusap…smile!
Gokusen, if you’re as powerful and influential as your Japanese friend, maybe Ellen might listen to you. Ellen has always been in denial stage believing that her blog is number one, the best. She doesn’t care if she loses some bloggers including the good ones. She has that “take it or leave it” attitude. In the past, she used to say “If you don’t like the way I run this blog, you are free to leave”. How can you deal with a person like her? Ellen is a very good person but has human weaknesses like all of us. She is easily swayed and carried away by the sweet talks of some bloggers.
goji,
i’m treating you all as my elder brothers and sisters….if seeing ms. ellen on her human weaknesses that’s fine for me..coz i don’t look on any human weaknesses coz i’m too has my own weakness!
and goji, if i need to choose whom i like to be friend of here is you..why? coz you are too stubborn and i want to be a friend of stubborn people..i hang around!
is it okey? Peace be with you, pal!
Well goji might want to review his lasts posts here, its annoying. Wala nang sense, out of issue. Please stop it! If one is not happy in this blog, he is free to go! Ganun lang kasimple! Peace be to all and blog with sense!
Every human has his human weaknesses. But let’s hope this human weakness is not being used by some to pursue their hatred and grudge against bloggers. Let’s face it, Ellen favors some and dislikes some and I’m among those she dislikes from the very beginning. But you see, her cheering squad would rise in unison to say that she owns the house so I’ve no right to question her prerogative. That has been going on for a long time and even if I get banned, I hope to see this improvement in the future. Bloggers have to be treated fairly and equally. Is that too much to ask? Luzviminda, you know for a fact that you and I have no quarrel. As a matter of fact, I enjoy your posts and you’re one of the best bloggers here. If my last posts were annoying, it was because I’m also human with human weaknesses like all of you. How would you feel being accused of stalking someone when it’s this someone who has been stalking me using the same old trick of pretending to communicate with another blogger? How would you feel if Ellen made a critical offense against you and she allowed her post to remain but deleted your reply to her post? Tell me, is it fair? There’s no fairness and justice anymore in our country and it’s our desire to see that this blog doesn’t commit the same acts against some well-meaning bloggers whose only intention is to remove this evil woman in Malacanang. This, Ellen and some fail to see…becoming rather personal than objective.
Gokusen, you said you like stubborn people. Are you being sarcastic or do you really like stubborn? I must admit I’m kinda one…a stubborn. That’s because I’m passionate with what I’ve been fighting for. I feel very strongly about my position on issues affecting the people and country. I’m a fighter…I don’t run away from a fight. How I argue on this blog, I can also do it at anyone’s presence even with Ellen around. I can face Ellen one on one. I can face anyone of you. I’m just sick and tired of people’s racist attitude especially toward their fellow Filipinos; know-it-all mentality, favoritism. We’re already suffering from this evil Arroyo government so why should we also experience injustice and inequality in this blog?
goji,
You have made your point. In fact a lot of times already and stop personal attacks. Same with Yuko. So we better focus on our sensible comments. Sayang ang mga spaces. And huwag na lang patulan and just ignore. Katulad din ng ginagawa ng karamihan dito. We want to read good comments so we can interact intelligently. And please, it hurts us kung pati si Ate Ellen eh inaatake. Sorry but we really idolize her because if not for this blog, wala kaming kinapupulutan ng mga ideas and a medium to speak what we want others to know. We owe it to Ate Ellen. Other blogsphere bores me because mas marami duon ang ‘nagpapagalingan’ at nag-iinglesan. Para kang nasa lecture room. Dito komportable kaming maghuntahan!
Luzviminda, who wants trouble and fight in this blog? I did not start it. I was not attacking Ellen but complaining why her post against me remains while my reply to her post was deleted. Who would dare go against Ellen, the owner of this blog? It’s like going against Arroyo by her cabinet members.
I took the risk because I believed something was wrong. We complain against the double standard policy of the Arroyo administration but here we are faced with the same double standard policy. Okay, I’m willing to put a stop all these but people like you must also stop raising the issue. I was just responding to your above comments. You may not even hear from me anymore. Ellen keeps warning me not to test her patience. If you don’t hear from me, that means she has banned me like what she did to some other bloggers. As I said, the most convenient way to hide one’s guilt and shortcoming is to get rid of people who are a threat to you even in a blog like this. There’s always a scape goat…a sacrificial lamb. And I don’t mind being the one sacrificed if only to save this blog’s face.
Settled!
Goji,
i’m not sarcastic…that’s me..i like stubborness..! especially if i’m fighting for a cause..ok!
You have your points eh, kaya lang tulad sa boksing isang matinding punch lang ang kailangan..kung suntok ka lang ng suntok at sa hangin tumatama wala rin..ang epek balik din sa yo! di mo naman kailangan na maging kaibigan o close sa yo ang nag-blog eh..just be true to yourself…kasi nagrereflect ang personality in the of his/her writing..alam ng readers kung ano ang dating nung sinasabi mo..wag mong hayaan na yung magaganda mong messages na nainput sa amin mahaluan ng ibang analysis ok… me as a reader i like the way you post…so continue contributing here..knowledge and coz we need to have wisdom para pag-aralan lahat ng bagay…
Ok ba? isang mahabang malalim lang ng hinga…! relief!
Goji
kain na lang tayo..ice cream na may sorbetes yung upside down ang flavor … cool…men…peace!
ayy.. wala ko masabi, parang telenovela, kahit saang channel ka lumipat iisa ang istorya!
goji, kainin mo na yong ice cream na iniaalok sayo ni gokusen habang mainit pa! hahahaha… (joke2!…)
naku ha, yung isa diyan, meron sigurong tinatagong master disc na ‘Hello Ellen’ para akusahan mga bloggers dito at ang blog-host ng mga katiwalian.
ilabas na iyan at para marinig. teka, gawa ba yan ng ISAFP o ni Ramon Jacinto?
kung wala naman, pwede ba mag-‘i’m sorry and lapse of judgment’ naman kayo ! sa madaling sabi, put up or shut-up !!
Zen2,
Lalaki ka ba o babae? Ako? Sigurado ako hindi ako lalaki!