Update: General walks out of press conference; junior marine officers explain “test mission”.
By Joel Guinto
The Marine ground commander in Basilan denied observations that the 15 troops slain in a clash with Abu Sayyaf fighters on Saturday were mowed down like “sitting ducks.”
In a phone interview, Brigadier General Juancho Sabban, commander of Joint Task Force Thunder, said the fatalities, who included four young lieutenants fresh from the Philippine Military Academy (PMA), “knew what they were doing” and were guided by veterans of the Basilan pursuit.
Proof that the Marines fought fiercely against the bandits in Ungkaya Pukan town, said Sabban, was that one dead trooper was surrounded by the bodies of three to four of their enemies.
“The Marines were not sitting ducks. That’s not true. We were able to overrun their camp…There was no such thing as sitting ducks. They were assaulting the Abu Sayyaf,,” Sabban said in a phone interview.
“The Marines were lying side by side with a lot of Abu Sayyaf terrorists. Ganun katindi yung labanan, dikitan talaga yung labanan [The fighting was that fierce, it was really close-range fighting],” he said.
Sabban also noted that the estimated 42 Abu Sayyaf fatalities were almost triple that of the 15 fallen Marines.
“Who won that battle? We were able to seize their firearms and inflict heavy damage. We were pounding them like anything,” he said.
In a report in Monday’s issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, parent company of INQUIRER.net, Ungkaya Pukan Mayor Joel Maturan, who witnessed the Saturday morning encounter, observed that the fatalities, who were reportedly on a “test mission,” were like “sitting ducks.”
“What happened was they followed an easier route on low ground,” Maturan was quoted as saying in the report.
“The Abu Sayyaf position was about 20 meters high from them … kaya parang ibon silang ginawang practice shooting ng mga bandido [so they were like sitting ducks that became shooting practice targets of the bandits],” Maturan said.
“If they had followed their guide, they would have surprised the enemy, who had their backs turned to them,” he added.
But Sabban said: “It was not a test mission…They were not new to the area.”
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Pikon si Cedo, ang-walkout! Hahah! Kasi napahiya e!
Kahit anupa ang paliwanag nila, naunahan na sila ni Ungkaya Pukan Mayor Joel Maturan, na witness sa encounter na ang mga junior marines ” were like “sitting ducks.”
Even if the mayor recanted his observation, ‘yun na ‘yun dahil kalat na. Huli na ang anumang sasabihin ninyo mga henerales ni Gloria magikera.
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Nakakagalit itong si Sabban! Bakit niya ikukumpara ang 45 bilang ng napatay na Abu (kung totoo ang bilang) at ang nasawi na 15 marines.
Hindi pwedeng bigyan ng numero at ibilang lang na estadistika ng mga marines at sundalong namamatay sa gera-gerahang ito ni Gloria!
Ang buhay ng kahit na isang sundalo na nagtatanggol sa inaakala niyang misyon (kahit niloloko lang siya ni Gloria at Asspweron) ay isang kadakilaan. Para siya ay ituring bilang numero lang ay isang walang kahalintulad na katrayduran sa kanyang pagaalay ng buhay.
Itong mga heneral ni Gloria ay mas mabuting itikom ang bibig! Mag-walk out na lang kayong lahat, isama ang reyna ninyong tianak! &^%*&^%!!!
Chi, I’ve talked with a number of Marines. They respect and trust Gen. Sabban. Let’s keep an open mind. Sila ang nandoon. We don’t know the realities on the ground.
At hindi porke triple ang bilang ng napatay na Abu ay panalo na! Ano yan, propaganda lang ba ang panalo sa gera?!
Paano nangyari na “we were pounding them like anything” e the marines were killed like “sitting ducks” as witnessed by the mayor.
Sus, kailan ba magsasabi ng totoo ang mga heneral na ito. Kaya maraming namamatay na magigiting na sundalo ay dahil sa mga palpak na heneral ni Gloria! Sa halip na mag-assess muna ng sitwasyon ay alibis ang pinagtutuunan ng pansin at bibig! Mana sa kanilang kumander-in-thief.
OK, Ellen. Pero dapat siguro ay huwag muna siyang magsalita, kasi iba ang nababasa. Sana ay iba nga siya sa mga garci generals. I pray because a good general is badly needed in this critical period in our history.
Sorry guys, nagiging subjective akong masyado lalo na nang makita ko ang mga kabaong ng mga fallen marines na niyayakap ng pamilya.
Bawat isang sundalo na malagas ay nakakapanlumo.
Iyan ay realidad ng gera, pero mahirap tanggapin na walang ibang magagawa ang pekeng administrasyong ito para bigyan ng tsansa ang katahimikan sa Mindanao. I still believe that there are available avenues only when the “supposed” leader was just and true!
What do they mean by “if they followed their guide”? Did the soldiers decide to take the “easier way out” on their own? Hindi ba mayroon silang leader? Ano yon laro na- “huwag diyan dito tayo dumaan mas madali- short cut”. Is winning a battle measured by the number of deaths and casualties? Ganoon ba yon? Sure, they trust and respect
Gen. Sabban, but can they say that of GMA and Esperon? It must be terribly difficult to serve under this adm. kung may principio ka..lalo na sa isang career soldier at general pa..but what is their duty? to serve someone like GMA, who we say was not duly elected or the country which they have to protect?. .naalalaa ko tuloy yong poem ni Tennyson..The Charge of the Light Brigade..” your is not to reason why, yours is but to do and die”..such is the life of a soldier..
Dapat lang naman na mas maraming mapatay na kalaban considering the ratio of the AFP compared to Abu. Ngunit ganun pa man ay dapat ay mas konti o kung maaari ay dapat walang mapatay sa ating mga kasundaluhan. Karamihan sa mga nasawi ay mga bagito sa labanan. Tanong, bakit isinalang sa unahang hanay ang mga walang karanasan sa laban. Dapat ay mga ekperiyensado at magugulang na sa labanan ang nasa first layers at sa hulihan ang mga bagito na dapat ay alalayan pa nga. Ibig sabihin ay sa tactical nagkukulang ang mga sundalo. Mga bobo na ba ang mga naiwan sa labas dahil nakakulong ang ating mga magigiting na kawal tulad nina Miranda, Querubin at Lim. Dapat sigurong pag-aralan muna maigi ang mga steps and tactics ng operation at hindi basta na lang sugod-ng-sugod. Kawawa naman ang mga sumasabak na sundalo.
The Charge of the Light Brigade..” your is not to reason why, yours is but to do and die”..such is the life of a soldier..
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Rose, ang presidente nuon ni Tennyson ay tiyak na hindi peke. I believe that under a fake president, to disobey an unreasonable order is not unsoldiery.
Ahhh, too young to die ang mga fallen marines. I can’t imagine the feeling of loss of the parents.
To all Field commanders and generals are you guys kissing ass each others while your brave soldiers and young officers figthing those well experienced bad guys because of your very poor offensive plan. I have good idea for those senior officer not only receiving there fat salary including under the table paycheck, direct your men to the field/ front line tingnan natin kung gaanu kayo katapang. Better play PC Games Command and Conquers Baka meron kayung mapulot na aral para di kayu maging utak hito.
I have long wanted to ask this question..can a soldier disobey an order which he knows is wrong even if the one ordering is his commander? If they were ordeed to go to Basilan..can they call sick and say I can not go..masakit sa puso ko. Kung lahat sila ay hindi sumunod..anong magagawa ng commanders..detain them all? sana nga mag call silang lahat..
Rose,
Sa isang thread, sinabi ko na walang magagawa si Gloria at Asspweron kung ang lahat ng sundalo ay uupo lang at mag- demand pagbabago. But the reality is that may kanya-kanya rin faction sila kaya mahirap gawin.
Kokonti lang ang mga Trillanes at Faeldon na tuwirang sumusuway at hayagang hindi kumikilala kay Gloria bilang pangulo at commander-in-chief. Kaya bilib ako sa kanilang paninindigan sa kanilang sinimulan.
May the souls of the young soldiers rest in peace. I knew them all too well from their plebehood until they became immaculates. It pains me to learn that these young men have just sacrificed their lives…time flies so fast…it was like only yesterday that I have to wake them up in class when they doze off. But now they have totally dozed off forever. To the families and friends of our soldiers, take courage and don’t lose hope even when the beating seems not to stop.
Please allow me to share this though this is not related with the Academy…as I sing the last Taps with them…
Why ‘TAPS’ is played..
If any of you have ever been to a military funeral in which taps were played; this brings out a new meaning of it. Here is something Every North American should know. Until I read this:
We in the North America have all heard the haunting song, ‘Taps’. It’s the
song that gives us that lump in our throats and usually tears in our eyes.
But, do you know the story behind the song? If not, I think you will be interested to find out about its humble beginnings.
Reportedly, it all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison’s Landing in Virginia. The Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land. During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moans of a soldier, who lay severely wounded on the field. Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier, the Captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back for medical attention.
Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the Captain reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment.
When the Captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was
actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead.
The Captain lit a lantern and suddenly caught his breath and went numb
with shock. In the dim light, he saw the face of the soldier. It was his own
son. The boy had been studying music in the South when the war broke out.
Without telling his father, the boy enlisted in the Confederate Army.
The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission of his superiors to give his son a full military burial, despite his enemy status. His request was only partially granted.
The Captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band members play a funeral dirge for his son at the funeral. The request was turned down since the soldier was a Confederate. But, out of respect for the father, they did say they could give him only one musician.
The Captain chose a bugler. He asked the bugler to play a series of musical notes he had found on a piece of paper in the pocket of the dead youth’s uniform. This wish was granted.
The haunting melody, we know now as ‘Taps’ used at military funerals was born. The words are:
Day is done.. Gone the sun
From the lakes…. From the hills…
From the sky. All is well.
Safely rest… God is nigh.
Fading light. Dims the sight.
And a star… Gems the sky
Gleaming bright From afar…
Drawing nigh Falls the night.
Thanks and praise … For our days
Neath the sun… Neath the stars…
Neath the sky as we go
This we know… God is nigh
I, too, have felt the chills while listening to ‘Taps’ but I have never seen all the words to the song until now. I didn’t even know there was more than
one verse. I also never knew the story behind the song and I didn’t know if you had either so I thought I’d pass it along.
I now have an even deeper respect for the song than I did before.
Remember Those Lost and Harmed While Serving Their Country and also those presently serving in the Armed Forces.
Thanks, Invictus.
Nakakaiyak.
Hello Miss Ellen,
Naiyak rin ako. Malayo pa ang laban pero di pwedeng umatras. Tatag ng loob lang ang kelangan dahil marami pa ang nangangailangan sa atin. Ingat ka rin sa trabaho mo at salamat sa inyong suporta.
Sisimulan ko sana ang araw ko sa madugong mga talumpati at mga patutsada sa mala impyernong gobyernong ito e, inunahan ako ni invictus, diabetic pa naman ako, kaya heto iiyak na lang ako hanggang sa humupa ang nag-aalimpuyong galit sa dibdib ko…..
chi says:
“Pikon si Cedo, ang-walkout! Hahah! Kasi napahiya e!”
chi, mukhang umagang umaga mo inasar si general cedo ! ano kaya kung paminsan-minsan may motto din syang ganito:
“there are times when it is better to retreat than do advance in a wrong moment”.
why they choose the low ground when in fact they knew that there’s a higher ground?
I really can’t imagine how they planned the “wrong moment” of attack.
another 42 abu sayyaf has been killed according to reports, but it seems the groups (ASG) has not been decimated ! I really don’t understand, am dubious of the number of ASG fatalities being reported. my question is ” are they real abu sayyaf” ??? abangan nalang namin ang susunod mong report general cedo .
Invictus,
Sir..! di ko alam kung paano ko sasabihin sa yo…di lang po iyak kasi alam ko po nararamdaman niyo rin ang damdamin namin na apektado ng “gulo” sa mindanao, at ramdam ko po yung damdamin nyo..kaso po sinusukat talaga kung gaang saan tayo … yung tibay at tatag sa paninindigan…isa kayo sa pag-asa namin…ng mga kabataan muslim! saludo po kami sa inyo! Ingat po kayo!
AK-47,
gusto mo para malaman mo talaga kung mga “abu” yun, isasama kita, kung gusto rin ni Goji , alam ko si Mrivera sasama yan..ipapakita ko sa inyo kung mga abu talaga yun..isa-isahin natin kung saan nilibing…
Invictus,
Sir, with your due respect po…i don’t know why you choose invictus as your username..pero sa akin po..its my winning piece during my high school days..here it is..
INVICTUS
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
ellen,
malaki nga ang tiwala at respeto na mga marines kay gen sabban at kung mneron ding malasakit itong si sabban at inaalala ang kapakanan ng kanyang mga tauhan gilang pinakamataas na opisyal ng marine corps sa mindanao hindi kaya marapat lamang na bigyan niya ng masusing pag-aaral ang giyerang kanilang sinasabakan?
sunudsunuran din lamang ba siya sa baliw na pamunuan ng hukbong sandatahan at sa bruhang mutya ng bahay na bato sa gilid ng itm na ilog pasig?
mas pinapahalagahan pa ba niya ang kanyang ambisyong maging marine commandant o maging katulad ni aspweron na AFP cheat of staff?
….BILANG pinakamataas na opisyal ng marine corps sa mindanao…..
gokusen Says: “AK-47, gusto mo para malaman mo talaga kung mga “abu” yun, isasama kita, kung gusto rin ni Goji , alam ko si Mrivera sasama yan..ipapakita ko sa inyo kung mga abu talaga yun..isa-isahin natin kung saan nilibing…”
gokusen, sige. sabihin mo ang lugar at ituturo ko kay iking 45, este ak-47 pala.
haunu kaw bihaun? dito pa ha zamboangan? bang makauwi aku, makajari kita mag-alup karuwa? dahun ko ing piyagtiaun ko ampa kakilahan mo.
After reading all your comments, there is no need to criticized the commander. Fighting is, of course, what soldiers are trained to do, but they are supposed to direct that skill and energy against the enemy. Battle is a clash of wills. Courage is a key to the outcome of the clash of wills. In virtually every battle, individual acts and actions of units far exceed the normal call of duty. The role of training and discipline in determining the outcome of the clash of arms is fundamental to the ability of units to withstand the challenges of combat.
Rose; you questioned,—can a soldier disobey an order which he knows is wrong even if the one ordering is his commander? A soldier deliberately refusing to obey an order in combat, as a misconduct stress behavior, may be tactically inappropriate based on an unduly narrow, self-interested, or pessimistic perception of the situation. Alternatively, it may be tactically appropriate based on a realistic perception that the order is unwise and will get one killed for no purpose. However, all orders which do not involve explicit violation of the Law of Land Warfare are presumed to be lawful and must be obeyed. The dictates of a person’s conscience, religion, or personal philosophy let alone fear or misgivings cannot legally justify or excuse the disobedience of a lawful order. Combat refusal by units has historically been dealt with by measures as extreme as summary execution of ringleaders or decimation. Refusing to obey combat orders, provides a maximum punishment of death for this offense when it is committed before the enemy.
Again Rose, faking an illness is considered malingering. Malingerers are those few soldiers who, in an effort to avoid duty, deliberately and willfully fake illness, physical disablement, mental lapse, or derangement, including battle fatigue. They must be counseled and returned to their units, even if they are suffering from combat stress. Malingering is an offense. The issue is not the presence of stress but whether the symptoms are under voluntary control. The most reliable test is whether the symptoms go away when the soldier does not think he is being watched and return when he thinks he is. Usually the malingerer cannot fake perfectly the physical and mental indications of true physical or psychiatric disorders.
Pinaninindigan naman pala ni gen. sabban na alam ng mga sundalo niya ang kanilang ginagawa talaga lang minalas sila na mapatay dahil sa talagang matitinik ang mga kalaban. Isipin mo nga naman, ang mga sundalo natin lalo at mga opisyal tinyente ika nga, na apat na taong nagsanay humawak ng baril, magpaputok ng baril, gumawa ng mga plano para makabentaha sa laban, tinalo ng mga kalaban na ni hindi yata nakatuntong ng iskwelahan subalit 7 taong gulang pa lang ay nagpapaputok na ng baril. Idagdag pa rito, kung ang gamit mo papunta sa giyera ay bazooka na hindi pumuputok, m-16 na malakas pa ang utot ng kabayo, helikopter na tirador lang ang katapat, at radio na panahon pa ng mga hapon, tapos ay aaasa tayo na mananalo sa laban.. Ano ka SINISWIRTI…. bwahahhahahahhahhhahahhh ah. ah.. nasinok ako… sumobra sa hahaah…
Naalala ko tuloy yung isang pangyayari sa isang sikat na hotel diyan sa manila… siguro mga 1990 ewan ko, mahina na ang memorya ko… Sa labas ng hotel nagkaengkwentro ang dalawang grupo, yung isang grupo miyembro ng SWAT team, yung isang grupo mga sikyu ng hotel… Ratratan barilan , siyempre takbo ang mga sikyu sa kanilang hotel, habol ang mga SWAT team, at dito na natapos ang istorya ng swat, naswat sila, sikyu lang pala ang katapat nila… Dedbol ang mga swat, katakot takot na aregluhan at bayaran ang nangyari, kamot sa ulo ang may-ari ng hotel… Alam nyo ba ang mga swat team na ito ay sa amerika pa nag-aral at nagsanay, yun pala sikyu lang ang makakapatay. Alam na alam ko ito dahil ang chief security sa hotel na iyon na siyang nagpatumba sa mga swat ay kababayan ko, pero patay na siya baka kasi hanapin nyo pa siya sa akin para ipantapat sa abu sayyaf, hindi dedo na rin siya, pinatay siya ng isang retired colonel ng navy na siyang umagaw ng kanyang puwesto.. bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah … buhay militar nga naman…
Take note of this from ABS-CBN Online:
The military, meanwhile, said over the weekend that elements of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front provided reinforcement for the Abu Sayyaf during the encounter with government forces in Basilan on Saturday.
It said that MILF’s Bagindan forces joined the firefight which started early Saturday morning after military troops launched an attack on an Abu Sayyaf camp.
There were confirmed reports that over 100 MILF members joined the al Qaeda-linked terror group in the firefight against the Marines in what was reported to be the heaviest encounter yet against the terrorist bandit group in the mountains of Barangay Silangkum in Tipo-Tipo.
The military said that the participation of the MILF in the firefight was a clear violation of the ceasefire agreement between the Moro rebels and the government.
The military added that another MILF battalion based in Guinanta in the municipality of Al-Barka has been put on standby to launch attacks in the town of Lamitan and Isabela City.
It said that the action would seek to diffuse the pressure from the military bombardment in Tipo-Tipo on Abu Sayyaf encampments. It added that the MILF will also be staging attacks against Marine detachments in Lamitan, Tipo-Tipo and Ungkaya Pukan as a retaliation to the government’s military offensives.
gokusen,
meron din bang mga “libingan ng mga bayani” ang mga abu sayyaf na yan? naku walang pang ransom ng gobyerno sakin gokusen ! si gloria at assperon nalang ! kasama si mrivera.
Mrivera,
Salam! magmaap kw yri ako mnla bhaun, aun iyaackaso ko sah klo ako mkauwi da mton ha bulan ini magtxt man ako kymo bt ta kmo kklahan iban sn asawa mo..
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oo cge, hahanapin ko yung mga libingan at ituturo ko.!
AK-47,
wala, kaya lang dun kasi kung saan namatay dun din nililibing kaya kung talagang dun namatay si pinaglabanan malalaman, yung iba na namamatay sa laban minsan di na nalilinis nililibing na lang, kaya importante sa amin ang ulan pag naglalabanan kasi nahuhugasan ang namamatay na mujahidin..At saka wag ka mag-alala ibang makisama ang mga “tausug”. Pag sina gma at asperon..ngeek baka dun pa lang sa daanan namin lucila lalu na gawin sa kanya…! at ipakain sa piranha sa mindanao deep!
Ms Ellen,
Hay, yun na nga yung sinasabi ko sa yo, di hihinto lalong gugulo at lalo pang paguguluhin..tingnan natin ngayong malapit na ang “ramadan” kung ano maging situation…
halimbawang magkaroon ng pagkakataong makapaningil tayo ng pautang na dapat pagdusahan ni gloria ay iminumungkahi kong sa panamao lake natin siya ihulog upang maging pagkain ng mga tilapyang ewan na kung sa anong hiwaga ay nabubuhay sa nasabing lawa subalit napakapapayat.
ang lawang ito ay marami na ang umarok ang lalim subalit hanggang sa kasalukuyang panahon ay bigo pa rin ang sino mang nagtangka upang abutin ang ilalim. ang isa pa ay ang kataka takang mas mataas ang level nito kaysa dagat na pinanununghayan kapag nasa taas ng animo’y burol na kanyang kinahihimlayan.
ito ay matatagpuan sa seit, panamao, sulu.
the joining of MILF to abu sayyaf against the government forces is now a crystal clear sign of “endless war” in the south, unless the arroyo government withdraw all our forces, call for an “immediate ceasefire” followed by a true, sincere and determined “peace talks” and, as the root cause of all, the “self-interest & terrorism business” by this evil president must be terminated once.
nag-alup na kamo iban hi indah ellen?
ibot kaw, taymanghud.
Maybe, it’s true that this Marines become a sitting ducks. These Abu fighter to have a good knowledge of the surrounding countryside, the paths of entry and escape, the possibilities of speedy maneuver, good hiding places; naturally, also, they have support of the people. Most military commanders do not want their troops to drop like flies when fighting the enemy. A commander wants his troops to win gloriously. When a commander designs its battle plan, He must consider what kind of troops he uses, they are smart, resourceful and tough. Proper battle plan can give his troops a critical edge when the fighting starts and poor tactics could cost him casualties.
Good planning can prevent the enemy from counter attacking effectively. It can also keep his troops from getting killed by a bad guy, if a soldier walks through a large empty field with short grass he is begging to be shot. When the firing does start he will have no cover and while he cannot see that every possible hiding place is empty the enemy will have no problem spotting him in the open. If the soldier goes around the big open field and sticks to cover he will have someplace to hide if someone starts shooting at him. That is why, they become a sitting duck!
gokusen,
nag-alup na kamo iban hi indah ellen?
ibot kaw, taymanghud.
ibanan kaw sin tuhan ha kaimo pagpanawan.
pareng cocoy?
is dat yu? ohhw, my gulay! wi ar beri worid abawt yu!
welkam bak!!!
Pareng Mrivera;
Yes it’s me! it’s 2;30 am in my place and I can’t go to sleep after arriving home from Vegas.I have too much coffee inside my body to keep me awake while driving.Como esta mi panyero?
gokusen,
mabuti kung may gustong hayop na kakain sa mga hayop na yan (gloria at assperon) ! kaya tama na sa kanila yong “sunuging buhay” pati kaluluwa pra wala ng kumalat na lahi nila sa mga susunod na henerasyon.
By the looks of it, our armed forces is but a broil of incompetence. Bloggers are unanimous that there’s something wrong since day one. We are losing battles and our heads. And the other side is well equipped and well trained. They know their turf well and our greenhorns dont even know what hit them. The element of surprise is used well in the Akbar country and in Sulu by the locals. The enemy is like a cameleon, it can be ASG today, MILF tomorrow, MNLF next. And our higher ups refuse to acknowledge this phenomenon. Next thing they will ask me if I have proofs to this. The usual alibis for defeats and loses and shame. For all of these, we sit on the table and talk. Why talk and give an inch to an enemy. Talking is another way of saying capitulation. Its also another term of surrendering piecemeal of our constitution. Where is the one bullet? It reached the enemy all right and not thru the muzzle of a soldier’s gun.
Hi gokusen,
invictus is very significant. it simply reflects what I am undergoing and it inspires me to keep on moving. I was born and I grew up with our Muslim brothers and sisters and fully respects the 5 pillars of Islam. In fact, for two weeks, I did a lot of reflection in various Islam mosques abroad to broaden my horizon about what is happening in this country. 🙂 Yet, it looks like there are more things to understand in this world with the realities in Mindanao and the present situation.
To conqueror46, pasensya na. kung minsan kahit galit tayo, kelangan pa rin idaan sa mahinahon na paraan habang hindi pa hinog ang panahon para sa isang maalab na pakipaglaban.
“there are times when it is better to retreat than do advance in a wrong moment”.
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It’s true, i’ts true, AK-47.
But my opinion in this Mindanao war actually is not a total retreat, just to make time to re-assess the situation, tactics, operations and other important considerations to win the battle to contain soldier’s casualty, if can’t be avoided.
Bawat isang buhay na malagas sa mga sundalo, lalo na at mga “baby” marines pa, ay iniiyakan natin dahil merong notion na hindi sila handa, in terms of experience, arms and weaponry, knowledge of the terrain, knowledge of who the real enemies are, merong protektor ang kalaban, Gloria is just saving her smelly ass from the uneasiness of the soldiers to due to beheadings ,etc.
Ang gera ay gera kahit gera-gerahan pa in the name of Gloria the poser. Walang panalo sa gera, sabi nga ni Mrivera. Pero huwag namang sanang ipambala ang mga hindi handa. Mas lalong talo!
Invictus,
Thanks for the story and lyrics. I’m very familiar with the story because I once lived in Gen. Robert E. Lee’s area, the modern one, and although not their own story, it is being told often enough for one’s ear to catch.
chi says:
“But my opinion in this Mindanao war actually is not a total retreat, just to make time to re-assess the situation, tactics, operations …”
yan ang tama chi, in a certain condition and such a situation lang naman and to re-assess the situation, not just “attack attack attack” without considering their position.
Naku Gokusen,
Bakit mo pa pinili iyang INVICTUS. Sumisigaw na tuloy ako dito sa kaiiyak. That is my very poem, my guiding light. In fact, tuwing may marine na mamatay o kaya ay balita ni Ellen tungkol sa mga “Men of Honor” ay binabasa ko yan na super laki ang mga letra sa aking study room. Hu! Hu! Hu!
Kung sino man po ang taga Mindanao dito,sana maintindihan ninyo ang saloobin naming mga taga Mindanao!!!Kami po ay sawang-sawa na sa military solution na yan na panahon pa po ni Marcos ay yan na lang palagi ang ginagawa ng taga Luzon at Visayas sa aming rehiyon.Ang tanong ko lang po ay ganito,Bakit ng kinidnap si Father Bossi ay bakit po Military ang naghanap at doon hinahanap sa lugar na kung saan ay wala naman doon?At bakit po ng si Jonas Burgos ngayon na nawawala at biktima rin po ng kidnapping ng militar bakit po hindi bata-batallion na militar ang naghahanap kay Jonas Burgos???At bakit ganun na lang po ang sukdulan na galit ng mga taga Luzon at Visayas sa aming mga Muslim?
Sawang-sawa na kami sa ingyong mga pananalita na mga Bandidong Muslim,Kriminal na muslim,Kidnapper na muslim!
Hello chi at gokusen,
masaya ako at nabubuhayan ng loob na marami pa rin sa atin ang naniniwala sa invictus at buo ang loob na makipaglaban kahit na marami sa atin ang nagbubuwis ng buhay at nagsasakripisyo. 🙂
The Mindanao problems can never be solved by military solutions. These can only be solved by an honest to goodness, sincere all out development for the areas. It’s more of economic and social problems. I’m afraid religion has something to do with it. History attests to the fact that Muslims don’t like Christians coming to their territories and preach Christianity. The Spaniards were successful in other parts of the country but not in Mindanao. There should be strong leadership and political will. There should be a leader who’s both acceptable to the Christians and Muslims. Gloria Arroyo is not one. She’s only acceptable to the devil.
pareng cocoy,
eto, muy simpatico pa rin.
he he heh.
tagal mong nawala. at galing ka wika mo sa las vegas? naman. bilib talaga ako sa pensioner ni uncle sam. pa relak relak na lang, ah.
hangga’t walang pagpapahalaga ang pamunuan ng AFP sa kapakanan ng mga kawal na isinasabak sa walang kabuluhang giyera sa basilan at sulu ay parang mga sisiw na dinaanan ng peste ang mga kawawang walang alam sa lugar na kanilang katatalagahan.
kung palaging pagtatakip sa pagkukulang ang gagawin ng mga heneral ay walang dudang hindi maipapanalo ang opensibang ito sa mga kaaway na walang mukha.
ang pagpapadala ng mga bagong gradweyt sa akademya sa larangan ay isang malaking kahangalan ng pamunuang hindi kayang umamin sa kanilang mga kinasasangkutang katiwalian. ano’ng magagawa ng mga bagitong opisyal na walang muwang sa lugar at taktika sa pakikipaglaban ng mga kaaway? dapat isaisip lalo na nina esperon, allaga, cedo at sabban na ang kaaway na kanilang ipinatutugis ay doon ipinanganak sa lugar na kanilang paghahanapan at kahit nakapikit ay alam puntahan ang bawat liblib na sulok kumpara sa mga opisyal na ang ginugol na apat o mahigit pang taon sa pag-aaral at pagsasanay ay sa loob lamang ng akademya at anumang kanilang pinag-aralan ay hindi angkop sa kapaligiran ng sulu at basilan gayundin sa paraan ng pakikipaglaban ng mga bandidong hindi nila alam ang pagkakakilanlan.
sa combat operation, kailangang bigyang halaga ang kung paano maliligtas sa pagmamatyag ng kaaway. hindi dapat at lalong hindi tama na tatahak ang operating troops sa mas mababang lugar lalo na ang hawan kung saan madali silang makikita ng kalaban. alalahaning ang mas mahirap na daraanan ay mas ligtas at hindi aakalain ng hinahanap at pakay na at walang kalabang maghihintay na sila ay maunahan at malagay sa alanganing katayuan. hindi sapat ang tapang lamang at kagitingan at pagmamahal sa bayan upang maipanalo ang alinmang sagupaan.
walang kawal ang makapagsasabing magaling siya sa pakikipaglaban kapag meron na siyang bulak sa ilong at ang katawan ay gutay gutay.
marahil ay panahon na upang ang nakagawiang abusuhing kaugalian sa hukbo ay itapon na sa basurahan.
ano’ng silbi ng “obey first before you complain” kung ang mag-uutos ay hindi iniisip ang kaligtasan ng kanyang inaatasan? ano’ng silbi ng pagiging masunurin kung para lamang laruang pagpapraktisan ng kalaban ang mga kawal na pikit matang sunudsunuran sa utos na walang katuturan?
lumilitaw at malinaw na kaya inaabuso ng mga tiwaling opisyal ang batas na ito ng pagiging kawal ay sapagkat walang makakapagreklamong patay.
Cocoy went to Las Vegas not to gamble but to watch girlie shows. My friends who saw him told me that he has doubled his vision and now must see his optometrist.
Kay muslimum,
Kapatid, Naiintindihan kita lalo na at malaki ang respeto ko sa mga Muslim at Islam. Hanga din ako sa mga nagawa ng mga Muslims. Bilang anak rin ng Mindanao at lumaki at nakipaglaro sa mga Muslim, nakakaasar nga ang imperyalistang Manila at ang mga paggamit ng salitang muslim na kriminal and bandidong Muslim at kung ano ano pa sa media. Tama ka, kelangan pa ng marami sa atin ang paggamit ng tama ng salitang Muslim at intindihin ng lubusan kung ano nga ang tinuturo ng Islam. Pero may iilan din sa ating mga mamahayag na responsable din sa paggamit ng salitang Muslim. Pagpasensyahan mo na ang mga pagkakamali dahil ang yung iniisip ay lalo lang makapagpadanak ng dugo sa dapat sanay luntiang Mindanao.
“AFP: Abu Sayyaf escape routes sealed,” says a Malaya banner. Oh yeah? Just who are the crooks in the AFP heirarchy trying to impress? 150 Abus talo iyong 4,500 marines?
Hindi ba nahihiya ang mga ungas na sinasabi ang mga kalokohang ito? Why don’t they just admit that they are trying to put the blame on the Abus, MNLF, and MILF in eliminating the marines they are about to replace with new recruits to be trained to be more loyal to the criminal squatting at the palace by the murky river.
How many more Filipinos are needed to be sacrificed for this creep?
The three or four PMA Batch 2006 who were killed were all excellent graduates. One was even a cum laude. Their mistahs all showed up to mourn their death. It’s a waste of lives of these talented officers. To Batch 2006: Why not initiate a campaign to remove this evil woman in the Palace? Talk to your comrades especially the upperclassmen. The time is ripe. Now or never…
Kalulugdan ng Allah ang Kristyanung katulad mo invictus!Subalit ganun pa man hindi mo maiwasan na sa aming mga muslim,pag nasaktan ang isa lahat ay nasasaktan!
!At Apat na bagay kung bakit kailangang naming mag simpatiya sa mga kapataid namin sa pananampalataya sapagkat kami ay magkakasala pag itoy hindi namin ginawa!Una kailangan naming ibuwis ang buhay namin kugn ang aming kayamanan at lupain ay inaagaw sa amin ng sapilitan at panloloko.Pangalawa kapag ang relihiyon namin ay tinatapak-tapakan at binababoy.Pangatlo kapag ang aming asawa at pamilya ay may gustong pumatay or umabuso.Pang-apat pagka ang aming taga-pagturo or nagtuturo ng Islam ay gustong patayin or papatayin ng sinuman.Sapagkat pag hindi namin ginawa yan,yan ay aming pananagutan sa araw ng paghuhukom.T
ulad ng ginawa ng mga Marines sa Basilan or kampo ng MILF at ang pagpatay nila sa aming Ustadz at pag pugot sa ulo nito ay isang malaking katampalasan sa aming rehilihiyon na marapat lamang na ipaghiganti sapagkat itoy aming paniniwala.At ang pag-angkin ng mga Kristyano na ang Mindanao ay sakop ng Pilipinas kahit itoy walang patnugot sa nakakaraming mga muslim sa simula ng kalayaan daw ng pilipinas,sapagkat kahit kailan kaming mga muslim ay hindi nasakop ng mga banyaga!!!At ang intention ng mga Pairng Kristyanus na gawing Kristyanismo ang buong Mindanao ay isang pagyurak sa aming kasarinlan bilang mga Muslim.Kung hindi ito maintindihan ng mga kristyanus ay patuloy na aagos ang dugo Muslim laban sa kristyanus sa Mindanao!
Muslimum,
Click the thread on Lamitan siege, there are comments for you. thanks.
I can see the anger in the heart of our brother Muslim, the above poster. I can’t blame him. Muslims are stereotyped as terrorists, drug dealers, criminals, etc. And who gave them the name “terrorist”? It’s no other than Uncle Sam. Muslims are well disciplined. They have unity that you don’t see in most Christians. Yes, you hurt one Muslim and the rest of the group would gang up on you. Muslims are described as tough and brave fighters. They don’t run away from a fight. If you
do something bad to them, you won’t get away. But are all these we can say about Muslims? Maybe we can ask them what they have done to contribute to the society. They have been fighting the government ever since the beginning. Sure, they cannot deny that they need to solve their own problems too. One can just visit Manila like in Quiapo where the Muslims are flying their trades. Who are engaged in video tape piracy? Who are selling drugs? In other words, many Muslims must also clean their own backyard before pointing fingers at other groups like those who don’t belong to their religion. The truth of the matter is, Muslims are as aggressive in sharing their religion like the Christians. We all have a share to blame. We all must contribute our share. We all have our roles to play in the society. We all have one God. It’s high time that Muslims and Christians unite and work together for the common good. The first step towards this work relationship is to remove this evil woman from the Palace. This, I’m sure many Muslims and Christians want to happen.
Cocoy: Thanks for the enlightenment. Ang hirap pala ng buhay ng ordinary soldier..ang mga nakakataas na ranko utos lang ng utos. Now I understand the expression..”utos ni commander”. The reason I used “sick call” is it is the most command reason we (here in the US) use if we just don’t feel like working on a Monday morning (after a weekend in Vegas..biro lang). As a matter of fact a group of policemen or was it the firemen used it. My knowledge of military life is very limited and close to nil..except for that short period of time, when I met a PMAer. kaya pala hindi kami nagkaintindihan.
Invictus: Thanks for sharing the story behind the Taps. For some reasons, each time I hear it played particularly in military funerals..I give my full attention. Ingat ka lang.
Gokusen/Chi: Though I am not a declaimer.. this poem by Walt Whitman is one we had to memorize in school and one we also had to at home..my father made us do. There were other poems we had to recite in front of his uncles and cousins.
Muslimun: I understand how you feel. I am sure there are things that we will find and believe can unite us. It maybe hard to find but we will find it..for one we can pray for each other..Peace!
Cocoy: correction..”it is the most common (not command) reason.
cocoy,
Balato! ‘Yung sinabi ko na disobey ang commander-in-chief ay kung peke ang presidente. Ano, pwede ba ‘yun?
Chi:‘Yung sinabi ko na disobey ang commander-in-chief ay kung peke ang presidente. Ano, pwede ba ‘yun?It’s a
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It’s actually what should have been done if the the other branches of the Philippine government have not been transferred under the control of the executive branch that is now under the control of a criminal aided by fellow crooks in the Philippine military.
Puede naman suwayin sa totoo lang, Chi. Soldiers of other countries, including the Israeli Army, are being encouraged in fact to defy unlawful, inhumane, etc. orders especially coming from one who has violated not just one but many laws, even the Constitution of the Philippines, just to be able to be called “President” with aim to declare herself a queen someday if she succeeds in establishing another lie as a fact that hers and her husband’s family own the Philippines. If that is not illusion of grandeur, what is?
I thought so, Yuko.
Glad your back in Japan safe.
Muslimun,
Salam!Alam mo pareho tayo ng “sentimiento” noon pareho tayong “muslim”, pareho tayo ng isinisigaw, magkasama tayo sa pinaglalaban, kaya nga ako naghanap ng way para mailabas yung nasa saloobin ko..may kanya-kanyang panahon lahat ng bagay! Alam naman natin na ang “society” natin nagkakaroon ng “discrimination” ung iba sinasadya nila di intindihin, pero ang karamihan iniintindi nila tayo at nauunawaan katulad ng mga naandito sa ellenville. Masakit sa atin na natatapakan di lang pagkatao natin kundi ang ating kultura. Pero di rin natin sila masisisi kasi di naman nila talaga alam kung ano ang “totoo” at ang tunay na puso ng isang “muslim” kulang pa yung kaalaman nila sa ating kinalakihang kultura…ang mahalaga ipakita natin ang ating pakikipaglaban sa tamang paraan.
Natuwa nga ako dahil merong isa pang muslim na tulad ko na nakita at natuklasan itong ellenville..tandaan mo walang malaking bato ang nakakapuwing..
taga-ipil , sibugay ka ba?
alam mo ba yung bomba kagabi? malapit sa iskul ng pamangkin ko dun sa city…pero sabi nila eh gumagawa lang ng gulo yung anduun..tanda mo ‘yung ginawa noong panahon ni general carolina ba yun? parang ganun din daw ang style….magtulungan na lang tayo na ipaalam sa kanila kung ano talaga ang puso at saloobin ng isang muslim…yung may takot kay allah! allah akbar! pero di so wahab akbar ha!
Alhamdulillah! Magsukol!
Invictus,
Sir..salamat po! Iisa po tayo sa prinsipyo at pakikipaglaban.
Chi,
Kasi nadala ako dun sa post ni Sir Invictus eh, winning piece ko kasi yun , at karamihan ng declamation piece ko ewan ko ba puro tunog may pagka”masculine” … pero talaga yan ang kung baga national anthem ko sa declamation…! Tapos napapanahon pa sa situation ng mga magigiting na sundalo..kaya lumuwag yung kalooban ko!
Mrivera,
Oo nagkita na kami! and very supportive siya sa pinaglalaban namin i owe a lot to her, bahala na si Allah sa kanya kasi wala naman kaming pedeng ipalit sa nagawa niya kundi isama sa prayers.. (magsukol sn hmmungan sn ikaw, huon kta nkmi pkil ko d nko lmugay d mkblik nko mton pa zamboanga atawa kan jolo,salam duwaa nhdja knyo mgtyaun!)
Tita Rose,
iisa talaga takbo ng puso at utak natin dito sa ellenville…
Yuko,
glad din..anjan ka na sa japan…safe at ready na sa pagpakita ng iisa nating pinaglalaban!
Cocoy,
May mga muslim din ba sa vegas?
Gokusen:
Tell you what. Our movement in Japan for the Philippines and Filipinos are successful because of the help of our Moslem brothers and sisters. I have observed that once they have embraced the cause, they are the most faithful and loyal supporters.
Yes, supporters, not followers. I hate the use of that word “follower” when applied to this ilicit relationship between the criminal and people she has promoted in the Philippine military for helping her be in the position she is presently in, and they are protecting now even at the loss of thousands of lives.
One thing I like about our Moslem supporters and fellow fighters is that they don’t question much once they are convinced that what we are fighting for is right and valid, and by all means should be carried out for results regardless of whether or not they are successful or a failure.
So far, we have succeeded in our movements even in stopping the sales of Philippine patrimonies in Japan and in stopping the deployment of wannabe prostitutes from the Philippines disguised as entertainers that female presidents of the Philippines ironically even make as their primary export business during their tenure of office. Yup, Kristyano pa naman! You bet, I have not met a Moslem among the Japayukis we have handled in the police! Kristyano lang, but I guess they are more Mammonist! Alam mo na iyong sumasamba sa pera!
I believe you because we have done a lot of documentaries for the Japanese TV on the Moslems in Mindanao. A lot many hearts were touched by the expose on the Moslem children being sent to Manila and Baguio especially and being child slaved there done by NHK for instance a year or two ago.
I must admit that I am a devoted Christian myself, and as a child was thought to fear the Moslems, but that was before I was converted to my present faith, which teaches about the equality between Moslems and Christians and the emphasis on the Moslems being likewise descended from Abraham, the patriarch even of the Jews and Christians.
We all in fact worship the same God of Abraham, and call Him by the names in the language we are taught. In our church, we call God, “Our Heavenly Father” with Christ as our beloved brother because of the teaching that he was in fact God’s “Only Begotten Son.”
I know you don’t believe that as a Moslem but, at least, Moslems respect Christ as a propet of God “born of the Virgin maiden named “Mary.” At least, they do, unlike the Jews, who actually were the ones who wanted him crucified, and the Christians that your fellow Moslem here apparently condemns likewise for killing Moslems just because of their faith and causing this great rift between Christians and Moslems, calling them “terrorists” instead of “brothers and sisters” because of ignorance, incompetence, greed, and all those condemnable traits that our church leaders in fact condemn and tell us to discard if we want to go to heaven.
Anyway, my sympathy and condolence to the families and kin of the dead, the soldiers and the collateral damage, the civilians—both Christians and Moslems. Let’s all condemn these senseless killings especially if it aims at establishing the credibility of the criminal who has no respect nor regard for human lives! Let truth and justice prevail!
You bet, Gokusen, I’m back to Tokyo. Medyo may jet lag. I slept on the train to adjust easily to the time in Japan but could not get the right amount of sleep. I slept as soon as I got back to my house, but woke up the same time I have gotten used to waking up in the USA. Pahirapan na naman sa adjustment ng tulog. It usually takes me 10 days to get back to Japan time.
You bet, there is no stopping until justice prevails and is properly done. Hopefully, there will be lesser casualties than what the crooks in the military shamelessly announces and seems proud even to display like those pictures of fallen soldiers who could even be just victims of what has become a common term, “friendly fire,” and in this man-made war in the Philippines, there is even the possibility that they have been “deliberate and intentional”!!!
Akala pa ng mga ungas magkakakuwarta sila ng malaki if they call the Abus, etc. hoodlums “terrorists” as defined by the mad man in the White House. Nakakangitngit ang kabobohan sa totoo lang! Grrrrrrrrrr! 🙁
Both Teodoro and Esperon rejected appeals for a halt on the on going military offensives against the ASG now in defensive positions in the hinterlands of Sulu and Basilan.
“Let their appeal fall into the ears of the Abu Sayyaf,” Teodoro said, referring to the requests by various groups to stop the military offensives.
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ngeek, eh kahit pa kaya iparinig yung “appeal” at makarating sa pandinig ng mga abu eh ..”ma” n “pa” ng mga yun (as in “malay” at “pakialam”) eh di ba nila alam bingi na mga yun sa tama at tunog ng mga bomba at mortar! Sabi pa nga di ba nung mga batang opisyales dun sa press con sa zamboanga, ang bata ng mga abu na kalaban nila mga 15 yrs old old..
eh sabi ko nga mas matitindi yung mga batang recruits kasi utak kriminal..papano sila pakikinggan nun..kung sila nga di nila maamin na “kriminal” sila eh bingi din sila sa pakiusap na tama na..yung pang puso at utak criminal..ay oo nga pala may kasabihan ang “magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw” pareho lang nga pala sila ng mga “abu” ang pinagkaiba lang ng konti “white collar” sila at mga elitista, at ang mga “abu” eh mga mamumundok…!
yuko,
thanks…!
Focus, a non-government research organization, said on June 6, 2007, the US Naval Facilities Engineering Command (Navfac) awarded a $14.4-million contract to Global Contingency Services LLC of Irving, Texas, for “operations support” for the Joint Special Operations Task Force- Philippines (JSOTF-P).
The JSOTF-P is the unit established by the US special operations command that has been stationed in southern Philippines since 2002.
Its role is to assist Manila in the war on terror with training and intelligence.
“According to its own Web site, Navfac is the unit within the US military in charge of providing the US Navy with operating, support and training bases,” Focus on the Global South said in a statement.
Global Contingency Services LLC is a partnership between DynCorp International, Parsons Global Services and PWC Logistics.
The research institute said the June contract was part of a bigger $450-million, five-year contract for Global Contingency Services to “provide a full range of world-wide contingency and disaster-response services, including humanitarian assistance and interim or transitional base-operating support services.”
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Chi, totoo nga..si uncle sam bumabalandra ng todo! hala, wala ring pakialam kahit magkawindang-windang ang lupang aming kinalakhan! sabi nga “who cares?” kaya ayun gumagawa ng make-believe-bomb na naman sa zamboanga city at agad may script na si Barcena…again…n…again…n…again.!
“oo nga pala may kasabihan ang “magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw” pareho lang nga pala sila ng mga “abu” ang pinagkaiba lang ng konti “white collar” sila at mga elitista, at ang mga “abu” eh mga mamumundok…!”
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Hahahah! Amidst the ongoing conflict and deaths, malakas ang sense of humour mo, Gokusen.
In May, senior US State Department official Christopher Hill stressed the importance of a continued US presence in Mindanao where US soldiers have been credited with helping find and kill leaders of the Abu Sayyaf Group, notably its chief, Khaddafy Janjalani, and its spokesman, Abu Sabaya.
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sabi ng govt ayaw ng us base…hmp..”hele-hele bago quiere”..credited sa kanila ha pagkamatay ni khaddafy at abu sabaya..tanong namatay ba totoo? Hay, itanong sa nanay ni abu sabaya , andun sa basilan…(di kaya isa si abu sabaya dun sa mga namugot ng ulo…???) “perlas na bilog wag kang tutulug-tulog sabihin mo sa akin ang sagot..ba..be..bi..bo..abu!”
Gokusen,
Gloria is a weakling, she needs Uncle Sam’s presence in Mindanao to back her up. Akala naman niya ay uurungan siya ng mga Muslim. Hindi nagbabasa ng history ang bruha. Hindi ba niya alam na hindi nga natalo ng Kano ang mga Muslim at wala pang nakatalong dayuhan sa inyo?! Babalik na naman ang mga kano, hindi na nadala!
Tingnan natin ang magagaling na pulitiko sa lower ang upper houses if they’ll take notice of this another violation of our Constitution.
Questionable pa pala kung napatay nga nila si Abu Sabaya. Baka inireport lang for the $$$$award. Baka hindi s’ya yun. Sus!
Newly installed Energy Secretary Angelo Reyes, who has admitted that he doesn’t have the foggiest notion about energy, has suddenly come up with a proposal for the country to go nuclear, that is, for the government to build another nuclear plant as a means to resolve the energy problem that requires almost total dependency on oil to generate electricity.
For Reyes, with electricity powering all of Mindanao — nay the entire country, not only will business be booming, jobs will be a-plenty but even the insurgency problem, whether communist or Muslim, will be a thing of the past!
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sabi na nga ba eh..yung ikot at paikot-ikot eh dun din ang hinto ng turumpo…mindanao pa rin…kasi nga natuklasan nila na oppps may “uranium” dito sa sulu archipelago..kaya ang mga puti di maihing pusa baka kasi maunahan ng japan na matuklasan yung “uranium” eh saan ba ginagamit yun…eh di sa “bomb”…putukan sana kayo…
Warning to all. Baka punuin na naman ng land mines ang Mindanao and soon we will see the same number of children, et al getting maimed, and being used by the crooks in the governnent for asking for donations and alms from overseas. Wala nang katapusan!
It really makes me really angry when the crooks in the government not just in the Philippines but in Africa especially where the needy and desperate are not really benefitted by contributions from overseas, and private individuals who have taken personal causes like the ones we are having in Japan risking their own lives bringing the food and other supplies to them.
Sometime ago in fact, our church took advantage of filling up an empty ship that delivered goods from Africa to Japan but was returning with nothing. So, an African member of our church asked if we could fill it up with relief goods for the poor and destitute in Africa.
Let’s not just pray but try to prevent Mindanao from being turned into another land full of grieving and starving refugees!!! Tigilan na ang mga kalokohan ni Gloria unano at ng tsimoy niyang si Esperon. Puede ba patalsikin na, now na!
Chi,
eh kahit sa batang paslit itanong kung buhay si abu sabaya..sasabihin “oo”. Yung napatay na pinalabas nilang si abu sabaya eh hindi nga siya, gagawa din lang ng krimen eh may naiiwan pang pagkakakilanlan. walang katawan ni abu sabaya na nakuha. Gumamit lang ng kunwari si sabaya yun, inilagay yung personal na gamit tapos niratratan. May naiwang testigo 2 dinala sa brigade. tinanong, yung nagsabi ng totoo na di si sabaya yun, binaril sa brigade, yung nagsabi na patay kahit alam na buhay, ayun pinawalan..eh magsisinungaling ba yung nanay ni sabaya eh di niratrat sila nun. Akala ng nanay niya napatay siya, malungkot at namatay daw anak niya, pagkalipas ng ilang araw nakita ng mga kapitbahay masaya yung nanay ni sabaya, sabi niya buhay ang anak ko! eh sino gagaguhin nila..kami na tagaron?
Well, that explains why Gloria is bringing in Uncle Sam. Uranium…alam mo, Gokusen, patok na patok ang stock ng uranium ngayon dito sa US because of the high price of oil.
Niloloko ang mga sarili para merong maireport kay Uncle Sam para tuloy ang kanilang ligaya. Kaya pala malakas ang Abu despite Gloria’s claim that the number was dissipated considerably.
Ganyan si Gloria, twisted propaganda ang expertise. Kaya palagi ang pose sa tabi ng kabaong ng mga napatay na marines. Basta meron s’yang photo sa diaryo, lalo na kung may crocodile tears, ay ayos lang! Habang merong sundalong namamatay sa gera-gerahan niya, she’ll take advantage of the dead bodies for photo ops! Kakadiri!
Muslimun, you appear to be waging a war between Muslims and Christians with your angry comments which is not healthy. Religion plays an important factor but it’s not about religion. Please don’t say you’re starting a fight against Christians. Our common enemy is Gloria Arroyo and her corrupt officials. There are good and bad Christians as well as good and bad Muslims.
Medyo lihis ng konti pero tungkol pa rin sa mga corrupt Garci Generals. Buhay na naman ang Hello Garci! Nagsalita na si Agent Doble!
Chi:
I did some translations of reports on the DUD dropped in Afghanistan and Iraq. Kaya anything made in Afghanistan or Iraq, I don’t buy. Polluted with uranium. Pinadalhan ako ng kakilala ko sa Basrah ng homemade dates jam. Itinapon ko kasi nga takot ako na magka-cancer. Mukhang masarap but I am afraid of the dates and the water used. Baka polluted gawa ng 1m years bago mawala ang effect ng pollution sa contaminated area ng uranium. May kaibigan akong haponesa meron ngayong cancer of the skin dahil doon sa tubig sa Iraq where she did volunteer work after the Gulf War. Nadali ng uranium.
Iyan ang mangyayari sa Mindanao if they don’t stop this war. Senator Trillanes should be allowed to perform his duty to stop this war. Siya ang pinaka-reliable na senador to stop and fight the crooks responsible for this civil war that the idiot apparently wants to be extended even beyond 2010. Baka makatulad sa Darfur, etc. ang Mindanao niyan. Heaven forbid!
Yuko,
Uranium is mined in Texas and New Mexico but of course the companies have a modern method to make it safe for the miners and environment.
Ang masama niyan ay kung basta miminahin ang uranium sa Mindanao without proper method and precautions, mas grabe pa sa resulta ng gera pag nagkataon. Hayy buhay sa ilalim ng pekeng pangulo.
Pagpasensiyahan ninyo kung may kahabaan itong sagot ko kay Muslimun, sana ay basahin niya ito ng buo.
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Muslimin,
Naiintindihan ko, kasama na rin siguro ang marami dito sa bahay ni Ate Ellen, ang ngitngit ng damdamin mo sa mga nangyari noon at nangyayari pa ngayon diyan sa kinalalagyan mo.
Kagaya ng nakagawian namin dito, at patuloy naming pilit na binabago, ay ang pagturing ng bawat Pilipino bilang isang indibidwal. Kung minsan ay naliligaw pero muling pinaaalalahanan ng mga kasama. Tandaan mo, at nating lahat, hindi kailanman magkakaisa ang mga Pilipino hangga’t ang mga “label” na nakagawian nating ikinakabit sa bawat grupo ng iba’t-ibang lahing nasa Pilipinas ay hindi naaalis, patuloy tayong watak-watak at walang iisang direksiyon.
Itigil na natin ang pagtawag sa mga Ilokanong Kuripot, mga Kapampangang Traydor, Bikulanong Malibog, Bisayang Bastos, at kung anu-ano pang masakit na ikinakabit ngunit walang basehan sa mga grupong namana lamang naman ang pang-insulto sa nagdaang mga panahon.
Mas malaking problema pa kung ang paiiralin ay ang pag-aalipusta sa relihiyon ng iba o ang taong may ibang paniniwala. Ang turo sa atin ng anumang relihiyon, ay pagmamahalan at maayos na pakikisama sa iba, kasapi man natin o hindi, tama ba?
Sigurado akong hindi itinuro sa Islam na ang Kristiyanong nasa iyong paligid ay dapat mong “bulabugin” dahil ang ibang Kristiyano ay nagpapahirap sa inyo, o sa iyo mimo.
Muslimun, kami dito sa blog ni Ellen, hindi kumukunsinti sa anumang maling pamamalakad, lalo’t gawain ito ng mga manloloko, sinungaling, magnanakaw, at mamamatay-tao. Dito ang mga isyu ay pinag-uusapan at hinihimay, minsan, hanggang magkatampuhan kahit magkagalit pa, pero sa huli, ang pagiging sibilisado pa rin ang namamayani at tinatanggap na lang ang kagustuhan ng nakararami. Ganyan naman talaga ang nararapat sa isang malaya, demokratiko, sibilisado, at responsableng pamayanan.
Kaibigan, walang kahihinatnan ang ating ipinaglalaban kung ang maghahari sa ating kalooban ay poot o paghihiganti. Ang tanging ibubunga niyan ay lalong pagkahiwa-hiwalay. Maaari ring hindi na pakinggan ang ating hinaing at nawala ang napakagandang pagkakataong ipahayag ng maluwag ang mga saloobin.
Hinahangaan kita dahil nababasa ko sa tono ng iyong mga isinulat ang iyong taos-pusong hangaring makatulong iahon ang iyong mga kababayan sa putik na kinasasadlakan nila ngayon, ngunit parang walang pumansin sa iyo. Ang pagiging mahinahon siguro ang daan upang seryosong intindihin ang iyong nais ipahiwatig.
Si Gokusen, kagaya mong kapatid na Muslim, ay maluwag na tinanggap dito sa blog ni Ellen, ngayon nga ay bida pa siya dahil marami kaming natututunan sa kanya at marami nang namulat dito sa tunay na kalagayan ninyo diyan sa Mindanao. May mga ka-blog na tumutulong na nga yata sa kanya ngayon. Si Ellen pa mismo ang nangunguna sa paghingi ng tulong para sa kanya.
Ako man, hindi ko rin gusto ang tirada ng ibang peryodista na inirereklamo mong nagbabansag na lang basta-basta sa mga Muslim, pero sinisiguro ko sa iyo, iba si Ellen at mapagkakatiwalaan mo siya. Anuman ang hinaing mo ay pag-uusapan natin dito. Kung kinakailangan at kaya rin naman, ginagawan na iyan ng solusyon dito mismo, sa abot ng makakaya. Iyan ang ipinagkaiba ng Ellentordesillas.com sa ibang blog.
Naniniwala din ang marami dito, Muslimun, siguro pa ngang lahat, na panahon na upang tapusin ang gulo sa Mindanao at bigyan ng pagkakataong mamuhay ng matiwasay at masagana ang lahat ng Pilipino, lalo ang mga Muslim. Hindi rin Muslim lang ang nagdurusa sa walang katapusang digmaan diyan. Kailangan ay bukas ang komunikasyon upang isiwalat ang problema, tapos ay himayin, magbigay ng mga alternatibong solusyon at panghuli ay gumawa ng hakbang upang maiparating sa mga nararapat kumilos ng ayon sa napagkasunduang solusyon.
Alam mo, Muslimun, kung ganito lahat ng gagawin natin bilang isang bansa, walang giyera-giyerahang mangyayari, walang mang-aabuso, walang magpapa-abuso, at palagay ko iyun na ang senyales upang ang bansa natin ay umunlad.
Ang galit mo kay Gloria o sa kanyang mga alipores ay sa kanila natin itutuon, ngunit gaya ng gusto nating mangyari sa kaguluhan diyan, hindi dapat madamay ang walang kinalaman.
Pag-usapan natin, kaibigan.
Siyanga pala, welcome to Ellenville.
gokusen,
Ang alam ko nga ay buhay pa si Abu Sabaya, pero nasa kamay na ni Uncle Sam. Nuon kasi ay nareport yan sa CNN ng mga bandang madaling araw. Sinasabi na nasa kamay na ng US ang isang leader ng Abu. Pero kinabukasan sa balita sa ating local news ay pinalabas na napatay sa engkwentro pero wala naman ang katawan kundi mga damit lang ni Sabaya ang pinakita. Ibinalato na lang siguro yung reward sa mga ?nakpatay’ kuno! Baka nasa Guantanamo Bay si Sabaya at pinahihirapan.
Luzviminda:
OK lang ang padaplis-daplis na info lalo na tungkol sa mga krimeng ginagawa noong unanong Mafiosa. Relevant pa rin iyan sa isyung tinatalakay natin.
Luzviminda: Ibinalato na lang siguro yung reward sa mga ?nakpatay’ kuno!
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Iba iyong pinatay. O nagpatay-patayan para makakuha ng reward from the FBI. 30,000 dollars ang pabuya sabi daw pero bakit iyong mga kano naman, hindi nakakahalata? Gunggong din ano? Wala kasing mapagpraktisan ng mga baril nila.
Dito kasi ibinawal na magpraktis sila sa mga lugar na may tao. Doon sila nagpapraktis sa isang rock island sa may Japan Sea. Pero inaangkin na ngayon ng mga intsik at koreano. Kaya nang makitang swapang iyong pandak, siya ngayon ang hinilingang mag-provide ng venue. Malas hindi lang ng mga Moslem kundi pati na iyong mga kristyanong nag-settle sa Mindanao. Pero bakit tuwang-tuwa naman iyong mga magulang na pinapasama ang mga dalaginding na anak nila doon sa mga sundalong kano? Hanggang Subic hakot ng mga ungas! None, however, is a Moslem.
Problema, maraming mga Moslem girls ang naga-gang rape ng mga sundalo and/or tulisan calling themselves “Abus,” etc. May na-meet akong dating biktim ng mga ungas na napangasawa ng isang hapon na NGO afterward.
Ystakei,
Si Uncle Sam nga ang nag-utos na palabasin na napatay si Sabaya para di na hanapin, kasi nga nasa kamay na nila at ini-interrogate ng husto. Kaya nga ‘ibinalato’ na lang yung reward. Hindi na naulit yung pagbabalita sa CNN nung madaling araw na iyun dahil binawalan na ng US Military. Na-excite siguro sa ‘scoop’. Kaso natyempuhan kong mapanood. Kaya nagulat ako nung iba na ang balita kinabukasan sa mga news natin.
Luz:
Sabi nga ni Gokusen look-alike lang iyong kunyaring nahuli ng mga kano na hindi naman marunong tumingin ng pilipino dahil gaya natin ang tingin natin sa mga puti at Afrikano magkakamukha!!! Baka binayaran lang yata iyong nagpanggap na Abu o may sakit ng cancer na nagpabaril na lang in exchange for money for his family. Iyan ang graft and corruption even courtesy of Uncle Sam. Saklap di ba?
Muslimun,
Ang mga mabubuting Kristiyano ay hindi inaayunan ang mga maling gawa ng naliligaw na Kristiyano. Sana ay ganun din ang mga Muslim na huwag ayunan ang mga maling gawa ng naliligaw na Muslim. Pagkat naniniwala ako na Muslim at Kristiyano o Hudyo ay para sa Katotohanan at Kapayapaan at Pagmamahal sa Diyos at kapwa!
Luz,
I saw that news but was not in the mood to believe it then. Ano kaya ang totoo kay Abu Sabaya talaga?
“GMA orders ‘humanitarian invasion’,” sabi ng Malaya. What humanitarian invasion ang sinasabi ng bobang ito? There is nothing humanitarian about bringing an armed battalion to the battle field and getting ready for a do or die with the hoodlums calling themselves Abus, MNLF or MILF. Boba talaga ang ungas. Ni hindi nababagabag doon sa mga collateral damages ang ungas. Parang sinasabi pa, “Walang magagawa. Kasalanan nilang naging Moslem sila kundi naman kristyano. Bahala ang mga religious leaders nila sa kanila pero hindi ko problema kung anong mangyari sa kanila!” If that is not being stupid, what is? Kakagigil!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Sabban said: “It was not a test mission…They were not new to the area.”
Ito naman ang kay Allaga from website of gmanews.tv:
‘The Marine commandant declared as graduates Force Reconnaissance class number 13, which fought Abu Sayyaf bandits in Ungkaya Pukan town in the island-province of Basilan last Saturday that left dead 15 “students,” including five young lieutenants.
“They are already graduates of that course. The remaining officers and men will distributed to the regular companies of the Force Recon,” said Philippine Marines Corps commandant Major General Nelson Allaga.’
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Ibig sabihin ay talagang ‘test mission’ ito at totoong mga bagitong sundalo itong isinabak sa matinding labanan sa Basilan. Anuman ang natutunan nila sa kanilang mga kurso ay puro theories lang. At dahil nga mga masigasig na ‘makagraduate’ ay sugod-ng-sugod ang gagawin. Kaya magkakatabi lang ang mga bangkay nang matagpuan. Di nila alam na nasa teritoryo na sila ng kalaban lalo na at naka-uniporme rin ang mga bandido. Hindi dapat sinabak sa unahan ang mga bagito. Malamang dahil nga test mission ay di alintana ng mga matataas na opisyal kung mapatay man ang mga batang sundalo. Kung baga, bahala kayo kung makaligtas kayo, ga-graduate kayo, kung hindi, tepok! Mga walang pusong opisyal! Gusto lang makulekta ang reward!
I stopped blogging for about two days kasi nalungkot ako ng husto sa walang saysay na pagkamatay ng mga batang sundalo, opisyal man o hindi. I cried a lot for them! Sana mamayapa na ang kanilang mga kaluluwa at sa mga walang kunsensiyang nagpadala sa kanila sa “killing fields” sana matauhan kayo ng husto!
There is so much hatred going around because of the evil “impostorang presidente” at ng kanyang alipores!
I can not blame Muslimun for feeling the way she/he does. For a very disadvantaged group where the choices are limited, either they join the underworld or die of hunger, the future is so bleak. Sana naman magkaroon talaga ng lider ang Pilipinas na magmamahal ng mga Muslim na katulad ng mga Kristiyano.
Tongue, you said it too subtly that Gokusen is embraced by our bloggers here for giving us the insight into the Muslim problems. Some of her information really blew me off and opened my eyes to what the moslems are going through day to day. Although I know that the whole Mindanao problem is a source of income by the underworld (some of the military get reeled into the opportunity as well) as well as a haven for the elction cheaters, Gokusen’s other revelations enriched my knowledge of how the whole puzzle can be solved, that is if there would be a leader who will try to solve the problems in that part of the Philippines. Maybe a mandatory education for all Moslem kids should be in place and even for the older ones, an adult education center. Gawad Kalinga succeeded to put up villages where there are sources of income for all the households. If copra is a main source of income, so be it. Maybe the villagers can be taught how to grow coconut to have a better yield. Some cottage industries can be put up for the families. We can drum up support for projects like these.
Tongue: Iba ang approach ko sa pagsagot tungkol sa mga Bisaya. May nagtanong sa akin..totoo ba Rose na ang bisayang babae ay dalawang klase lang..aswang or malandi? Ano ka? Ang sagot ko..aswang na malandi pa. An American friend asked me if there are witches in Antique and if I have seen one..Sure I told him, each time I look at the mirror I see one. Boy! was his face red!
Gokusen: I found your postings here not only informative but very educational. I am just wondering..beyond Zamboanga City, did the Spaniards go far into the depths of Mindanao? I remember that when we (my friends and I) were taken to Tarhata, there was a runner who met us at the main road..and after 20 minutes came back and led us (we were in a jeep) in a very narrow path inside. It did look scary and reminded me of Tarzan movies. But our hosts were her relatives. It was also in Jolo, where I met a childhood friend who is married to someone from there. It was also there I met my father’s cousin who is a carmelite nun. And this experience way back in early ’69 that my eyes were opened to things beyond the books..a better understanding of the world..and thanks to widening our world ..looking forward to meeting you here or there..
In the late 70s and early 80s, I used to travel to Taiwan and I was amazed at the basic structure of each household. The basic home consisted of a three storey building. The first floor is the store, the second floor is the manufacturing or the assembly place and the third floor was the sleeping quarters. It was very ordinary to find kids, aged 8 to 10 even manning the cash registers. Kids were taught to work while Mom supervised the workers and Dad was out marketing. All these paid off big and in the late 1980s and 1990s, Taiwan had trade surpluses in the billions of dollars even before Mainland China boomed!
As for their agricultural produce, they had a central market where all the produce were brought to and sold at wholesale prices. All agricultural produce were picked up at different stations. Very efficiently gathered and dispossed of. Taiwan was and still is a very small country and inspite of the constant threat of mainland China’s take over Taiwan managed to be an economic success in Asia, all because each family was taught to be productive.
We can not depend on the government for everything particularly when more than 80% of the countrry’s income and resources go to corruption! Also, more than 70 % of our countrymen are on the poverty level and below. All these lip service about helping the poor is just politics as usual!
Mindanao has vast and fertile land and maybe that is a good start. The land should not only be given to rich corporations and businessmen. The Muslims should be given a parcel to till and call their own. Every single one of them! If it means sacrificing tons of profit for these chosen elite, so be it! This is the only way the Mindanao problem can be solved. The Moslems have to be educated, given a livelihood and live in peace otherwise no matter how many soldiers’ lives we sacrificed and even if billions of dollars, euros or pesos are invested in mortars and machine guns, Sulu, Tawi-tawi and Basilan will always be the “killing grounds” of the disadvantaged!
Since day one of my life I listened to the TAPS everyday except on a bad weather. I grew up in a cemetary. Puberty sent me down south and worked with practically all with the Muslim faith. They took care of my children completely. They prepared my daily fare. And after retirement I continue getting a host of friends there. I have new godchildren. They go on keeping me abreast of everything there through SMS. Sometimes they pass to me chismis on the political trysts (a favorite).Sick call for the marines can be scheduled before a bivouwac. Dont eat for three days and for sure malaria comes out. For the DENR, energy comes from vitamin E.
So I am coming up with a paper that could solve a little of the turmoils of which we are at ringside. The emnities started all with land problems. Thus I look at an alternative to the CARP which is totally political and selfish. The scheme is to make everybody happy and improve productivity. Its free land for everyone. It may appear socialistic or whatever. Yet we can mention many progressive countries along that brew. We are now in the agricultural doldrums, so we let the real mcCoys till the lands. Real estate is the meat of the war in the south. Land grabbing is the color at the outbacks, informal settling is the scourge of the urbans and poverty is the powerdrive of the street criminals. Lets give the birthright of lot ownership upon coming of for everyone free and anyone could rent from the government all the lands he can till and manage.
PSB and Valdemar,
Exellent, excellent points.
…upon coming of age for…
A little ink correction up there.
Valdemar:
CARP is totally political in our country. Do you think our government give land to landless if there is no land to distribute? The hacienderos owned pretty much all the agricultural and commercial lands. We wouldn’t be having a big debate on land reform in our country because commercial farmland was owned by rich and powerful. This all comes back to the question of whether it’s lucrative to be a farmer. A lot of people believe that if you have land, you’re going to be rich. But we’re moving into a stage right now where you have to pay to be a farmer. That’s why we’re seeing so many hobby farmers, part-time farmers moving into commercial farming. These are all people with significant incomes from other activities, from professional activities in urban centers.
Farming isn’t a way out of poverty, but it is something the rich can afford to do. If all these farms were incredibly profitable and all you had to do was drop a seed into the ground or just let your cattle graze and that was that, the policy wouldn’t end up costing anything. But the situation now is very different. Because farming really is not the productive income that might have been in the past, people don’t till the land anymore, instead they sell their land title to real state developer.
Cocoy, when the farm produce from small fertile and productive land are efficiently collected and marketted, it will be a boom! Exotic fruits coming from Mindanao are excellent exports! Japan for one does not have the land to grow the produce they need day to day. Australia may have all the cows in the world but they do not have enough fertile farmlands for anything else because of their water supply. These are just a few examples. It is not true that farming is a hobby alone. It can be a business when collectively harnessed. Let us face it, the Philippines is still an agricultural country. We simply do not have the technology to be industrialized. Our colonizers made sure that we would not grow faster than they did. So, with what we have, we have to capitalize on it-land, sea and our people!
PSB;
I agree with you that farming can be effective and efficient still in our country.But, Where do farmers get farmland to till while almost all of the agricultural lands not only in Mindanao but the whole regions are owned by rich and powerful. Do you think a small time farmer can compete with them? They have a lot of ways to get the small time out of business. First the big time farmers buy all the fertilizer from the manufacturer in wholesale and sell it individually on resale to small time. the worse thing they can lower the price of their crops during harvest.
I’ve done that way back when I was still in the Philippines. That time I control all the chemical and pesticides spray for mango crops. I want to eliminate my small time competition I lower the prices of mango until I got all the buyers, so they lower their prices too than to spoil their harvest. The next year they are out of business because they lost on their capitals so I controlled everything.
tita Rose,
base sa pagkaalam ko di nila napuntahan … kahit nga yung seit lake…wala pang nakatarok …maraming lugar na “virgin” pa, may lugar na sobrang ganda at lilinis ng sapa,dun kami kumukuha ng tubig. maraming likas na yaman kung matutuhan lang na paunlarin. Mayaman ang lupa…kahit na ang dagat.
Mrivera,
yung tinitirahan ng mga puti dun sa seit, dun sa Suh bahay ni exMayor Baguis..inuupahan ng mga kano..
PSB,
thanks ha…kahit papano unti-unti nakikita ang “tunay na larawan” ng lugar namin..yung araw-araw na pamumuhay. Kung ang ginawa ng gobyerno pinaunlad nila ang lugar namin, mayron mang sumapi sa mga “abu” iilan na lang eh. Kasi marami ang sumanib dun dahil sa kahirapan, kung abu nga naman may pera kana may baril ka pa. Kaya pag walang makain ang mga tao sabihin, makapag-abu na nga lang para may makain ang pamilya ko. Kung lalaliman ng gobyerno ang pagtingin sa situation makikita nila iisa lang ang ugat ng lahat eh..kahirapan..!
AK47,
di ba asked mo sa akin ilan ba talagang bilang ng “abu” namatay..yung sa basilan wala pa ko updates ha pero sabi konti ang “confirmed” ko yung sa sulu. Ang nang ambush abu, dalawa yung humarang dala ang M16 (gusto mo lagay ko pa dito yung name nung nang-ambush) tauhan pareho ni Albader Parad. Yung sinasabi ng magigiting na general na 100 abu yung nang-ambush di totoo at walang kasamang mnlf. marami yung namatay na sundalo, kasi yung mga baril ng mga sundalo ang pinag-pyestahan ng mga tauhan ni albader. Sa Maimbung yun ha..sabi ng govt. namatay yung right hand ni radulan. Di kasama dun yung mga tauhan ni radulan. ang napatay si “alden” right hand ni albader. Tapos sabi pa ng magaling na gen. esperon, nasugatan sa engkwentro sa parang si dr. abu..hindi ang nasugatan si Magder yung anak ni dr. abu..ngayon tanong nila sa akin kung asan si dr. abu..sasabihin ko para patunayan na buhay at walang kasugat-sugat. Di kasama sa engkuwentro sina dulmatin kaya di totoong nasugatan malubha si dulmatin…abangan nila kasi papunta ng basilan…wag silang pipikit para makita nila kung ano ba itsura ni “dulmatin”. Ang mga namatay eh mga sibilyan at di misuari breakaway group at lalo ng di mga abu..dun sa laum buwahon, parang, sulu nasugatan yung anak ni dr. abu. Isipin mo 2 lang na abu yung nang ambush…pero maraming abu na nandun kasi kinuha nila yung mga baril ng sundalo,pag pyestahan nga kaya. kaya sa galit naman ng mga sundalo kahit sibilyan eh pagkamalang misuari breakaway group at yun ang mga binaril. Yun, kasing lugar na kung saan dumaan mga militar daanan talaga yun ng grupo ni albader..gang dun sa “daan puti..at kilometer 4” eh talagang maambush sila…yung mga tauhan ni albader utak kriminal talaga yun..!
gokusen, patnubayan ka ng allah.
muslimun, taosug ka rin ba? sala’am
AK47,
ngeek kalimutan ko ilagay figure kakahiya kasi sa magigiting na general..apat ang patay ng abu, compare sa sinasabi nilang 31, ang nasugatan walo pero sa mga sumandaling ito ay magagaling na at handa na naman lumaban…yan ang realidad ng labanan kawawa ang mga sundalo..
Mrivera,
Magsukol!
gokusen,
maraming salamat sa impormasyon. base sa mga kwento mo, malabo nga talagang madurog o maubos ng mga sundalo ang mga abu sayyaf kundi ang mga “inosenteng sibilyan”.
kesa naman walang maibalita ni general esperon na namamatay sa panig ng mga rebelde, kaya mga sibilyan nalang ang mga pinapapatay nya, nakakalungkot at hinde katanggap tanggap, kaya palagi nalang ako nana-nalangin, napapaiyak ako sa tutuo lang gokusen kapag binabasa ko ang mga kwento mo. ingat ka lagi.
Cocoy, the prices for the farm produce should be regulated the same way as the prices for basic products like rice, meat and gas. Or the prices have to be subsidized by the government so the farmer survives.
Where will the land come from? Plenty! But some farmers can not have the same prime lots. If it means having a farm somewhere remote, they have to compromise.
The small farmers can co-exist with the big ones. As a matter of fact, the big farmers can buy the produce from the small farmers. The bigger farmers have distribution channels and these can help the samll farmers.
gogusen,
ang mga sundalo ang nakakaawa dahil hinde nila alam at kilala ang mga kalaban nila, kaya minsan hinde narin natin sila masisisi kung bakit mga inosenteng sibilyan ay napapatay na nila dahil lang sa utos ng mga hayop at walang kaluluwa na namumuno.
oppssss… sorry gokusen, “gogusen” tuloy naisulat ko. sorry ha?
AK-47,
buti na lang di mo ginawa gojisen..hehehe…goji joke lang po kasi di mo pa tiyak nung kelan kung girl me o boy…at least di bakla at di tomboy!
PSB,
sa amin malalaki ang mga lupain kasi pag-aari ng mga ninuninuno o ng mga kaninu-ninuan..daan daang puno ng niyog..mabubuhay naman ng maayos at marangal, ang masakit nga pag tinamaan ng gera at bomba, sira ang niyogan, ang taniman walang matira kundi yung pinag-usukan..papaano magtatanim ulit..magtanim ay di biro, maghapon nakayuko, di pa man lumalaki tatamaan ulit ng bomba…hay!
AK-47,
totoo yun, kaya pag alam ko na na nadadala ako ng damdamin ko a pagsusulat dito hinahaluan ko na ng mga “punchline” para di naman tipong seryosong masyado ang dating…!
okey lang maging gogusen..wak lang gagusen…!hmmmm!
gokusen Says: August 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 am Newly installed Energy Secretary Angelo Reyes, who has admitted that he doesn’t have the foggiest notion about energy …I would like to add to this thread on the topic of nuclear energy. I reiterate what I opined earlier: I am absolutely opposed to this type of energy even for peaceful purposes. First of all, we no longer have the scientists to manage a nuclear facility, nor can we afford to hire expats. Second, the horrible disasters of Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and Bophal were due to human error, something we have not yet learned to eradicate from our psyche. Third, nuclear waste lasts for thousands of years – where can we dispose it without endangering the neighboring community? (This would be many times more hazardous than the pollution of La Mesa watershed)
Rehabilitating the Bataan Nuclear Plant is out of the question. The facility is approaching the limit of its service life of 30-50 years (steel rusts, piping corrodes). Lets stick to what Tongue proposes. Furthermore:
A 1000 megawatt plant would cost about 75 Billion pesos, but with inevitable cost overruns plus the obligatory corruption the experts estimate the final cost at 200 Billion pesos (funded from new taxes or a 20% VAT?). The power generated will only be marginally cheaper than from coal fuel plants, and only the static infra benefits. Except for the MRT and LRT trains, buses and cars still demand gasoline and diesel fuel (Mindanao’s train is still only a dream). It takes at least 10 years to build (unhurriedly).
Sec. Reyes has barely warmed his office, so it is not surprising that thinking people view the proposal as whimsical (to join ASEAN nuclear dreamers club) at best or a parrot of Ate Glue at worst. But the real impetus of the proposal (at this stage the idea is a mere float to test public reaction) is the prospect of personal profit by both the public and private sector. Big projects bring big funds and this means big opportunities for the brazen.
TonGUE-Twisted SAID:
Si Gokusen, kagaya mong kapatid na Muslim, ay maluwag na tinanggap dito sa blog ni Ellen, ngayon nga ay bida pa siya dahil marami kaming natututunan sa kanya at marami nang namulat dito sa tunay na kalagayan ninyo diyan sa Mindanao.
“ngayon nga ay bida pa siya”
Ang Tunay na Muslim ay hindi namin kailangang maging bida”Haram”yan!!!Sapagkat itinuturing mong dakila siya kaysa sa lumikha sa kanya!Ang lahat ng PAPURI ay para sa Allah lamang.Lahat ng nangyayari sa bawat segundo ay masama man or maganda ito ay kagustuhan ng Allah.Kung ang mga Muslim sa parteng Basilan ay nagugulo ngayon maaring ito ay FITNAH(Curse) sa kanila,subalit hindi namin sila pwedeng iwanan,lalo na at mga Non-Muslim ang umaatake sa kanila.Ngayon,sa Islam,ang isang muslim pagka nagkasala,ay hindi siya pwedeng ibigay sa Non-Muslim na korte o paglilitis sapagkat sigurado 100% walang justice na makakamit dyan.Kung kayo nga mismo na mga Kristyanos ay walang makuhang justice sa pamahalaang non-muslim,how much more ang mga Muslim.
Tulad ni Nur Misuari,hanggang ngayon ni isang trial walang nangyari,tulad din kay Saddam na minadali ng Iraqi US puppet government ang pagbitay sa kanya,maging ang mga nakakulong na mga Hezbollah ng Lebanon ay tiyak walang hustisya na makukuha.Maraming mga muslim sa pangalan at kapanganakan lamang ngunit kung titignan mo ang kanilang mga puso at gawi ay malayong malayo sa Islam,tulad ng Saudi Arabia,at iba pang bansang Arabo,hindi ibig sabihin sila ay Islamic Nation sila ay nagpapatupad sa tunay na Islamikong pamamaraan.Maraming mga muslim ni hindi marunong at naintindihan ang Surah Al-Fatiha,ni hindi alam kung ano ang mga pillars ng Islam,ni hindi alam,ang pillars of faith,ni hindi nag sa salat(Prayer)5 times a day.
At malinaw na sinuman sa muslim na hindi tumupad sa mga pillars na ito tiyak sabi ng Allah magkakaroon sila ng Fitnah(Curse) or parusa.Ang Islam ay isang kumpletong antas ng Pilosopiya gaya ng aking sinsabi,ito ay way of life,pag kumain,matulog,makipag-sex,papasok sa palikuran,maliligo,aalis sa bahay,bago magsimula sa trabaho,pananamit,pakikidigma,paggamot,pagkatay ng hayop,kasal,libing,batas,korte,moralidad,ang lahat ay sinusunod ang naturalisa na ayun sa may moral na gawi.Maging ang pagtulong sa kapwa Muslim man or hindi andyan ang guidance ng Islam.
Maging sa paggalang ng nakakatanda at maging sa pagtanggap ng bisita naituro lahat ng propeta yan na walang labis at walang kulang,maging ang mga bagong kaalaman at discovery ngayon at na reveal na ng Allah yan 2000 years ago sa Qur’an.Sabi nga ng Allah;(Qur’an 4:3)”Huwag mo silang katakutan,bagkus matakot ka sa akin,sa araw na ito ay kinumpleto ko na ang relihiyon para sa inyo,at nasa inyo ang aking pagpapala,at pinili ko sa inyo ang relihiyong Islam”.Ito ang paniniwala naming mga muslim,kay hindi namin kailangan maging bida!!!May bida na kami,at walang iba kundi ang Allah lamang!
Muslimun,
Salam! Alam natin yun na ang bida sa atin si Allah. Alhamdulillah! sa puso, isip, galaw natin siya yun…pero di natin pedeng alisin na di tayo lang ang nabubuhay sa mundo di ba. Hindi ko na pahahabain ang sasabihin ko sa yo..di mo lang siguro naintindihan ang sinabi ni TT tungkol sa binanggit niya.
Ang sa atin dito ipaliwanag kung ano ang nangyayari sa atin lalo na sa basilanm sulu at sa mindanao, dun tayo pupunta sa isyu na hindi natin masisira ang doktrina ng Qur’an..sa palagay ko naman maintindihan mo kung bakit. Ayokong mamis-interpret mo ang simulain ng “blog” na ito..na magkakaiba man ng relihiyon, muslim tayo , kristiano sila, pero di yun ang makakapag lihis sa paniniwala natin sa pagkilala kay Allah. Unti-unti natin ipapaalam sa kanila ano ba yung pinaniniwalaan natin, di natin sila kailangan biglain, di tayo kailanman nagsisimula ng kaguluhan dahil yun ang nasa sulat sa Qur’an. Irespeto natin ang paniniwala nila, na di naman natin patatapakan ang paniniwala natin. MArami pa ang di nakakaalam ng paniniwala natin, may kasabihan nga ang matatanda na “wag natin pakainin at isubo ng buo ang “lechon” sa kumakain baka di nila makain, pero kung hihimay-himayin natin yung lechon at isusubo sa kanila ng unti-unti mangunguya at makakain nila. Lagi dapat mayroon isang tulay na kung saan magkakasalubong sa gitna…sabi nga meet in halfway!
muslimun, gokusen,
mga taymanghud. alalahanin natin na ang paniniwala at pananampalatayang muslim ay nanggaling sa salitang “SALA’AM o SALAM” na ang ibig sabihin ay “kapayapaan.”
pakatandaan din na si propeta muhammad (pbuh) ay dumanas din ng pagbatikos at pinagbalakan ng masama ng mga taong kanyang pinagkatiwalaan subalit bandang huli ay kanya pang kinalinga, kinupkop at prinoteksyunan.
muslimun, walang sino man sa blog na ito ang naghahangad ng kapahamakan ng mga kapatid na muslim.
ako na tatlumpung taong mahigit nang nakikipamuhay sa mga taosug ay unang unang nasasaktan dahil sa walang kuwentang giyera na inimbento ng mga sugapa sa malakanyang.
Tama ka Gokusen,kaya dahan dahan kong i-paalam sa kanila,bakit gayun na lang ang desire ng mga Muslim sa Mindanao na magkaroon ng sariling gobyerno or estado,kung saan ito ibinase at bakit kailangan ng mga Muslim sa Mindanao na magkaroon ng sariling gobyerno at estado.Unang-una hindi natin pwedeng pagsamahin ang Halal sa Haram,tulad ng pananalita natin,hindi pwedeng sang-ayunan ang isang salita na haram sa mata ng Allah,banggitin ko na,ang pagtuturing sa isang nilikha ng Allah na Hero or bida or sikat ay hindi dapat sang-ayunan sapagkat ito ay ipinagbabawal sa Islam,subalit ang hindi pag sang-ayun ko sa blog na ito sa gayung pananalita ay hindi upang saktan ang sino pa man,kundi ipina-paalam natin ito na hindi pepwede sa sa Islam,sapagkat sa maliit na pagpupuri sa isang nilikha ng Allah ito ay nangangahulugan ng partnership at pagpupuri sa nilikha!Kay nga itinuturo sa Islam na kapag ikaw o sinumang muslim na nakakita or makarinig ng maganda sa kanyang kapwa hindi mo siya dapat puriin ng; Bida siya,sikat siya,magaling siya at etc.etc.etc. kundi ang turo sa atin ay MashaAllah,Alhamdullilah,Subahanallah diba?Alam kong hindi nila alam yun,kaya nga sa mga sulat ko maging aware sila,ibig sabihin they are informed,at nasa kanila yun kung ituring nilang insulto sa kanila,sa akin wala akong intensyon na insultuhin sila kundi maging sincere lang tayo kung ano ang totoo na itinuturo sa atin!!!
Gokusen, you are right in not being misled and dazzled by Sec Reyes spin on nuclear energy to produce electricity, create jobs and development in Mindanao. His spout was pure bunkum. It is now my turn to acknowledge that your entry to Ellenville is auspicious — the combination of grassroots youth, civil manners and attitude, plus polite articulate language is striking, in stark contrast to the usual gambit of sincere muslims from the elite.
I fully empathize with your dream of economic development to ameliorate the plight of Bangsa Moro. As I brashly hinted to the late former Ambassador Espaldon when he was still SouthCom chief that military prowess will not be sufficient to bring peace to Mindanao. I suggested economic development as a simultaneous thrust to police action. He mumbled something about lack of funds and that the program would have to compete with the bureaucrat vultures feathering their nests.
My proposal was not borne out of naiveté. In my short service in the Navy, plying Sitankai, Simunul, Siasi and on to Bongao with its tiny wharf and 2-3 nipa huts, and a sojourn to Sandakan (a cluster of thatched roofs then) I absorbed many things about the cultures of the South (including malinkat Budyang), and encountered nothing more menacing than a barter trade kumpit. I had a grudging but deep respect for the fierce Tausog warrior-seamen who did not consider themselves as Filipinos but grants me mutual respect as a fellow seafarer. Tausog courage is without question, and with courage comes endeavor and initiative, the stuff that could create or destroy.
I am not being facetious when I say for example that the Sipadan raid and hostage taking was like a classic venture into entrepreneurship: careful planning, site scrutiny, ample logistics, keen choice of equipment investment (speedboat), dealing with high value goods (moneyed tourists), estimate of risks, allowance for contingencies, and finally, superb timing in execution. Commander Robot further exhibited his flair for business when he conceded his desire to invest in a fruit farm. But their peaceful potential was not given a chance. And to think these guys did not have the advantage of having an economics degree that Ate Glue has.
I truly believe that with some encouragement, primarily access to markets, the copra trade, seaweed farms for carrageenan, and ecotourism have potential to bring prosperity and peace to Moroland. It might even mutate the deadly family feuds into amiable competition.
gokusen,
paano kung yong second letter ay naging “a” baka namura mo na ako ah! hahahha… syempre naman tunay na babae ang dating mo, yong una mong tapak dito sa ellenville, alam ko babae kana talaga. basta kita kita tayo para sa isang “charity”. god bless !
Rose: An American friend asked me if there are witches in Antique and if I have seen one..Sure I told him, each time I look at the mirror I see one. Boy! was his face red!
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Nalaglag ako sa upuan ko dito. Nawala ang lungkot ko sa pagkamatay ng tiya ko. Thanks. 😉
THE commander of the 1st Marine Brigade, Col. Ramiro Alivio, was relieved of his duties for staying in his headquarters while Marines clashed with around 80 Abu Sayyaf forces in Ungkawa Pukan town, Basilan last Aug.18.
AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said Alivio’s relief was the decision of the Board of Generals.
Col. Rustico Guerrero, former chief of the Marine Corps Training Center based at the Marine headquarters in Fort Bonifacio, took over Alivio’s post in simple rites at the 1st Marine Brigade headquarters in Isabela City yesterday.
“I know that he (Alivio) can control the troops from where he was (in the headquarters) but I would have preferred that he be nearer to troops,” said Esperon.
Fifteen soldiers from the Force Recon class No. 13 on a test mission died and 10 were wounded.
The military claimed at least 42 Abu Sayyaf leaders and members died but troops recovered only seven bodies.
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hmmm, eh ba’t nga di siya mag-stay sa loob ng airconditioned room niya, mainit at saka di nga ba sinasabi na kayang-kaya ang mga kalaban..as in “sisiw” lang sa kanila yung mga ‘yun…tapos sila pa lang ang “sisiw” lang sa kalaban.. eh sino ngayon ang lahing “texas” o “labuyo” sa labanan…
ang administration, lagi na lang kapag napalpak may pagbabalingan ng sisi..sisihin din nila dapat yung aircon sa room dahil kundi sa dulot nitong lamig eh, di mamatay yung mga batang opisyales..
ano nga ‘lit un..”i know he (alivio) can control the troops from where he was…ano yun ginagamitan niya ng “remote control(alivio) yung mga sundal, nakalimutan niya sigurong palitan ‘yung battery ng remote control kaya nag-stop at di nakakilos , dapat binigyan ng general espiron ng maraming “rechargeable batteries” para tumagal ang buhay nung remote control at di napatay yung mga sundalo…pang toy story lang pala ‘yung utak netong si alivio..dapat di siya pumasok sa militar dun siya nagtrabaho sa dreamworks ng disney may pakinabang pa sa kanya..
The military claimed at least 42 Abu Sayyaf leaders and members died but troops recovered only seven bodies
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eh claimed nyo lang pala, pero sabi nyo nga “at least” 42 abu leaders , pero 7 lang na-recovered niyong katawan..ano ngang petsa yung 18 ano…palagay ko yun ang natandaan na numero ng nagsabing opisyales kasi yun ang tinayaan niyang numero sa lotto..42, 7, 18 , 15, 10 tingnan natin pag tumama yan mga numero na yan at irambol pa..pag lumabas may tumama check natin baka isa dun sa mga magagaling na general..baka si gen. ermita manalo ah…
He said Alivio would be given a new position.
“We will put Col. Alivio in a position where his intelligence background will serve our organization best,” he said.
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new position? promotion malamang…binulungan si alivio, “sige aalisin ka namin jan kasi tun ang rekomendado ng board pero wag ka mag-alala ipromote kita ..” ilalagay sa intelligence saan sa Isafp o nica? did siya pede sa mig 21 makakalaban niya dun grupo ng mga kasamahan dati ni doble..kwidaw pag sa intelligence siya nilagay alisin na lang natin yung “i-n-t-e-l at palitan ng “n-e-g” at ikabit dun sa natirang “g-e-n-c-e” resulta “negligence” yun pa baka dun pede siyang manguna at maging lider at pangunahan ang mga kasamahan niya sa “negligence group”
Gokusen,
E kung mamatay s’ya (Alivio), di wala na s’yang kaparte sa hantingan ng ulo! Gago rin ano? Kaya pala namatay ang mga pobreng marines.
Tapos ay sasabihin ni Asspweron, “I know that he (Alivio) can control the troops from where he was (in the headquarters) but I would have preferred that he be nearer to troops,” said Esperon.
Namatay ang mga batang marines dahil nagkukukakoy lang sa airconditioned office si Alivio, tapos ito lang ang sinabi ni Ass at bibigyan ng bagong assignment. Onli in da Pilipins!
Kung ganyang takot mamatay at walang disiplina ang mga senior officers, kahit magpadala pa sila ng buong sandatahan sa Mindanao ay hindi sila mananalo.
MILITARY tribunal yesterday ordered the dishonorable discharge of 12 Army junior officers involved in the Oakwood mutiny of 2003 “for conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman.”
Brig. Gen. Nathaniel Legaspi, the court’s president, said the officers led by Captains Gerardo Gambala and Milo Maestrecampo “brought dishonor to the noble profession of arms and to the Armed Forces.”
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kung ang mga may prinsipyong sundalo mag-plead ng “guilty” at ma-discharged dahil sa sinasabi nyong kahihiyan sila sa sandahatan..eh kayo kelan kayo mag-plead ng “guilty” para masabi namin na kahihiyan din kayo ng sambayanan pilipino.
si sen. honasan kaya? ano ang gagawin niya? may mukha pa ba siyang ihaharap sa mga kapwa niya sundalo? takpan niya ng bayong ang mukha niya pag tatayo at magsasalita siya sa senado…
The sentence has to be approved by President Arroyo.
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lagi na lang bang may “sword of damocles” sa leeg ng mga magigiting na militar na tumatayo para sa bayan..laging may bargain pag involved sa anomalya ang malakanyang…laging may “but” and “if” …saan pa pupunta ang pilipinas…
kay gma na na upuan ng presidente, malakanyang, judiciary, legislative, pati na ang afp, yung mindanao sapilitan niyang kinukuha din sa mga muslim, milf kanya pa rin..isama na ang abu..ah alam ko na kaya siya galit sa “mnlf” kasi yun na lang ang di niya makuha si “nur misuari”…pero mabubulok sa “house arrest” si “maas” pero di niya makukuha ang “prinsipyo” at saloobin ng legitimong “mlnf”….at kahit mamatay si “maas” may misuari pa rin tatayo at maninindigan di magtataksil sa bayang sinilangan..
Gokusen,
Alam mo bang nung araw na lumabas dito sa blog yung sentimento ni Muslimun, sabi ni Esperon sa radyo, “Nananawagan na nga sila sa Internet na gantihan maging ang mga Kristyano kahit walang kinalaman.” May kutob akong nabasa nila yung post na iyon.
Salamat pala at naipaliwanag mo kay Muslimun ang hindi ko agad nasagot. Mahirap naman yata kung ang lahat ng usapan dito ay ire-refer natin sa relihiyon. Walang katapusang debate lang ang kapupuntahan.
Para sa akin, pag nandito tay sa bahay ni Ellen, tama na siguro ang maging sensitibo tayo sa relihiyon ng isa’t-isa. Sapat na sigurong lumagay sa tama ayon sa pagkakaalam nating hindi nakasasakit sa kapuwa. Kung ang paggamit ko ng salitang “bida” ay makasasakit sa sensitivity ng iba, kahit pa alam niyang hindi iyon sadya, napakahirap makipag-diskusyon kung ganoon. Gayunpaman hinihingi ko ang paumanhin ni Muslimun. Ang mahalaga hindi tayo naglalaban na ang relihiyon ko ay ang tama at ang iyo ay hindi, O akin ang mali at iyo ang tama. Mas maganda ay respeto, diba? Iba man ang pananalig, alam natin at ginagawa natin ang tama.
Tanong ko lang, paano naging sikat si FPJ sa mga lugar ng Muslim, a bawal pala ang bida at sikat? Naguguluhan tuloy ako.
TT,
Tanong ko lang, paano naging sikat si FPJ sa mga lugar ng Muslim, a bawal pala ang bida at sikat? Naguguluhan tuloy ako.
hmmm…punchline ba yan…ha? ok, kaw naman yun na nga lang ang libangan at kaaliwan ng mga muslim lalo na ang kalalakihan si fpj eh maguguluhan ka pa! mahilig kasi nga sa “action” eh, nakaka-relate ang bawat-isa tingin namin siya yung “knight with a shinging armor” kaso napalitan na ng shining firing .45″ sumusugod sa barilan di ba? galing humawak ng baril..daming kalaban pero di tinatamaan..tamaan man daplis lang at nabubuhay agad, kaya pag siya yung natalo sa movie kawawa ang kalaban niya sa amin…kulang na lang mortarin ang screen..
Cocoy, Chi and all,
Appreciate all your views, obrigado. Need all in my search of the lost chord.
Neonate,
The standard rule of thumb pricing for power plants is $1M per Megawatt. A 1000MW plant therefore, would cost about P47B.
But Gloria has earmarked P99.5B for Mindanao. With this ongoing war, who’s foolish enough to establish business there? She is working for a P227.2B loan package.
Tangna! I just remembered, Pandak announced the other day that she has ordered mobile power caravan or something for Mindanao. Letse! Eto na naman ang nakawan!
Follow-up:
Thought you might like to revisit http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=1446 regarding the power contracts.
Neonate,
thanks and binabalik ko yung kapurihan sa Itaas..sa Father..sa Allah..!
Sana nga mag-kaisa na anuman uri o kulay, diwa o salita…isang lahi! magtulungan para sa ikabubuti ng sambayanang pilipino lalo na ang mga kabataan ngayon at bukas at sa darating pang mga panahon..dapat ituro sa kanila ang tama at tulungan itama ang mga mali ng kasaysayan..
TT,
tito ko tumawag, andun sa Zamboanga si gma..tanong mo ano binibisita..yung mga projects niya dun..ok yun ah, mukang may lulutuin na naman jan na pasabog ah..baka bibisitahin din si barcena at may iuutos na naman…!
Gokusen,
Yun na nga yun. Power projects yata. Ipinost mo dito tungkol dun a. Keep in mind P99.5B ang halaga ng projects diyan sa Mindanao na uunlad na raw sabi ng Donya!
Paanong uunlad kung may gyera-gyerahan?
TT,
Oo nga po! sana binigay na lang nya sa mga tao yung pera baka sobra-sobra pa kesa naman mawawalang parang bula dahil masisira lang ng gera…ano ang saysay ng bilyones niyang project? kung siya rin ang gumagawa ng ikakasira ng mga proyekto niya? maglaro na lang siya ng “counter strike” sa net..mapudpod man daliri niya kakapatay dun sa mga naglalaban sa games…ok lang…kesa sa ang paglaruan niya at i-counter strike totoong may buhay, gumagalaw, at humihinga!
Gokusen, is Arroyo now in Zamboanga? How far are you in Zamboanga? Can you do me a favor? Can you or your uncle kick her ass for me?
goji,
oo andun nagpapakyut..di naman kyut..as in nakakatakyut ang akyut! ako, tawid dagat…di ko kayang languyin eh takot ako sa pating..wala naman si mobydick para isakay ako sa likod niya palaot! . yaan mo hinihintay siya dun sa basilan…masalisihan sana!
Gokusen, why not throw Gloria to the sea and be eaten by the sharks there? The question is would the sharks eat her?