Ang dami ng sinabi si House Speaker Jose de Venecia tungkol sa kanyang planong “Amnesty for all” ngunit hindi sinasabi ang totoong pakay nitong kanyang hindi pa napa-file na bill.
Ang hindi sinasabi ni JDV ay para talaga kay Gloria Arroyo at sa kanyang mga kampon ang amnesty para kapag wala na sila sa Malacañang hindi nila sasapitin ang sinapit ni dating Pangulong Estrada.
Sabit na lang o collateral beneficiaries sina Estrada, Trillanes, Gen.Renato Miranda, Gen. Danny Lim, Col. Ariel Querubin, at ang iba pa nilang kasamahan. Isinama pa nga niya ang MNLF, MILF at NPA.
Napag-alaman naming na ang pinaplanong Amnesty for All bill ni JDV ay magkakaroon ng cut off-date provision sa masasakop na political crimes. Kunyari, kung sa Aug. 30 nitong buwan I-file ang bill, ilalagay doon na kasali ang lahat na nagawang political crimes mula sa pinakahuling amnesty proclamation noong 1995 hanggang Aug. 30, 2007.”
Ibig sabihin noon kasama ang pandaraya ni Arroyo noong 2004 elections, ang fertilizer scam, ang kurakutan sa Northrail at sa ZTE broadband contracts, at marami na marami pa. “Amnesty Me” nga ang tawag naming dito.
Kinausap ni JDV si Sen. Ping Lacson na mag-file ng counterpart bill sa Senado.Okay naman kay Lacson, kaya lang sabi niya baka magkaiba sila ni JDV ng kahulugan ng “political crimes.” Ang isang halimbawa ni Lacson ay “plunder” o malawakang pagnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan . Sabi niya hindi yun political crime. Kriminal yun. Siguro pati na rin ang pandaraya sa election.
Ngunit sabi ni JDV, kasama si Estrada. Plunder ang kaso ni Erap. Ibig sabihin isasama niya ang plunder sa political crimes. Kaya libre na rin sa plunder si Arroyo.
Hindi excited sina Trillanes at ang mga sundalo na nakakulong sa Tanay na pinangungunahan ni Gen. Miranda. Sabi nila, wala silang kasalanan sa bayan. Lumaban sila para sa katotohanan. Nilabanan nila ang pandaraya at ang pagwasak ng hukbong sandatahan. Ikinulong sila. Ngayon patatawarin sila ng mga pasimuno ng pandaraya? May mali yata diyan.
Ito ang sabi ni Parañaque Rep.Roilo Golez: “It’s the executive branch, not Congress, that must initiate an amnesty through an Amnesty Proclamation. Then it will go through a debate in Congress. A concurring resolution must be approved by both Houses.
“Even if the amnesty proclamation is concurred in, amnesty is not automatically granted. One must apply, through an amnesty commission, admit having committed an act covered by the Amnesty Commission.
“That’s where I expect a logjam.Would someone like Sen. Trillanes apply for an amnesty, thereby admitting the commission of a crime? In the case of former President Erap, the decision of the court will most likely come before the amnesty proclamation would be concurred in by Congress. And I don’t know if the former President would apply for an amnesty.”
Yun ang rason kung bakit denied lahat ngayon ang motion ni Trillanes ni Judge Oscar Pimentel ng Makati Regional Trial Court. Para raw lumambot ang nakakulong na senador. Ngunit mukha yatang mali ang basa nina Arroyo at JDV kay Trillanes.
Ngunit mukhand makukuha nila si Estrada dahil sinabi ng kanyang spokesman na si Rep. Rufus Rodriguez na open daw ang dating pangulo sa amnesty na ideya ni JDV basta huwag lang siyang aamin na guilty. Ganoon din ang sabi ni Sen. Jinggoy Estrada.
As if we have not learned our lesson. Anything that comes from JDV and Malacanang should not be taken as biblical truth.
No matter how good it looks and sounds, we should not trust their words. There’s always hidden motive and agenda behind every announcement they make. Why listen to these liars?
Ellen: Yun ang rason kung bakit denied lahat ngayon ang motion ni Trillanes ni Judge Oscar Pimentel ng Makati Regional Trial Court. Para raw lumambot ang nakakulong na senador. Ngunit mukha yatang mali ang basa nina Arroyo at JDV kay Trillanes.
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Wow ha, police brutality pa ang tactic. Tarantado din iyong judge ha? Para lumambot ang word na ginamit? Ano iyan? Torture! Bawal iyan legally speaking. Bakit hindi makahirit ang federation of bar associations sa Pilipinas?
For all these injustices, sinong gaganahang umuwi sa Pilipinas? Por dies por singko!
Nakakawalang pag-asa na talaga ang ating gobyerno. Am here in the US for a temporary visa but then naiisip ko nang huwag umuwi dahil sa mga kapalaluan ng ating mga pulitikong gahaman. JDvenecia is nothing but a loyalist of Gloria, the thief, the liar and the cheater. Sinong gagaguhin niya?? Mga kababayan, gising na!!! Huwag paulol sa mga kampon ng kasamaan. After all the mesh they have done to our constitution, to our democracy and to our people and country, papayagan ba nating takasan nila ang ang kanilang mga kasalanan??? Gloria and her mga tuta, aso, baboy at, mga kababuyan ay hindi dapat patawarin. Prosecute them, hang them and let them pay the price. To hell with them!!!
Brenda said the idea of amnesty for all is oxymoronic. Hibang talaga sila. Kung hindi ito makakalusot, siguro maghahanap sila ng foreign country na mag-a-adopt sa kanila. Hindi baga si ex Pres. Fujimori of Peru ay tumakbo sa Japan as fugitive.
Off topic. Just read an article about the wife of the cheat of staff. She raised her voice in church because a name of one of the dead soldiers was not included in the mass intention unless she paid 50 pesos. Then she went on to say that she is really spending her own money to help the soldiers with their treatment and medicines. She also denied that she was a reason for the resignation of one of the officers in the hospital.
Based on info that I gathered from some of the staff of the V Luna Hospital, she is not only loud, bossy but she is making a lot of money from contracts made with the hospital on medicines, equipments and services. Anyone attached to asspweron unfortunately does not give a positive aura to me!
mukhang may katotohanan ang ‘hello erap’ tapes.
pareho kasing magnanakaw.
Off Topic:
Chi, naniwala ka na? 4.1% bagsak ang stock market. Pati sa Wall STreet. Good thing we saw the signs just at the right time.
latest development:
quote “Apostol said no right thinking President would feed her soldiers as pawns to be massacred by the enemy of the state. He added that the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is already conducting an investigation on the July 10 carnage and that Trillanes should wait for the results”unquote…
Apostol on Senator Trillanes Allegations that the Palace knowingly put the live of the Marines in Danger.
But is the President a Right Thinking One?? A Big Question to Ponder…
Off topic.
Oy, Tongue, grabe sa Wall Street, ang daming nag-iiyakan.
‘Yung Google has began constructing it’s new facility near my place. Pagbisita mo dito, puntahan natin.
“Apostol said no right thinking President would feed her soldiers as pawns to be massacred by the enemy of the state.”
With the exception of his fake president!
Sabi ko na nga doon sa isang thread na kaya kinampihan ni Jinggoy si Mikey at Iggy as energy and natural resources chairs, respectively, is because of this “amnesty me”. Ang daling basahin ng mga pulitikong ito!
“…Ngunit mukha yatang mali ang basa nina Arroyo at JDV kay Trillanes.”
Ellen, sa basa ko ay mas mukha silang intresado kay Trillanes kesa kay Erap. Pero wala silang magagawa kay Trillanes, kabaligtaran siya ni Gloria at JdV. At ganun din sina Gen. Lim, Cols.Querubin and Parcon and other “Men of Honor”, hinding-hindi nila mauuto at magugulangan ang mga ito.
Sinabi mo pa Chi, our “Men of Honor” will not fall to the trap of the tiyanak and the tengang daga. It is very obvious that this “amnesty” is designed for those who have committed crimes in this regime. Can you just imagine tiyanak, assperon and all their minions enjoying the money they stole from our country and acting like they never killed the almost thousand militants plus the dozens of soldiers who got killed most recently?
under the revised penal code:
amnesty covers crimes such as subversion, rebellion, sedition, illegal possession of firearms, and such other offenses affecting public order and the national security penalized by the Revised Penal Code or special laws;
where is “plunder” ? why JDV included such crime under his “all-encompassing amnesty” program?
the literal answer i can give is, because evil gloria herself is the “plunderer” and not erap !
in the case of “rebellion”, there was no such crime committed by the magdalo groups and those encarcerated 28 men of valor officers.
gloria, persecute your ownself and proceed to the gallows now !
AK-47; in the case of “rebellion”, there was no such crime committed by the magdalo groups and those encarcerated 28 men of valor officers.
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You bet. Ang ginawa nila, more like insubordination gaya ng ginawa ng mga sundalo sa Israel na hindi ikinukulong. May disciplinary action but not treated as criminal especially when they are justified to defy a criminal who has committed so many crimes against the Philippines and its people, and if she is not legally held responsible yet for her crimes is because she has managed to put hers and her husband’s friends in the agencies that should have been arresting and putting her, her husband and partners in crime to jail.
Ang linaw naman ng batas sa totoo lang, pero hindi sinusunod.
Chi:
Magulo itong si Jinggoy. Nasisira lang ang tatay niya sa ginagawa niya. Buti pa iyong kapatid niya sa ama, mukhang may ibubuga, mentallywise! 😛
“Apostol said no right thinking President would feed her soldiers as pawns to be massacred by the enemy of the state.”
apostol, you think your president is in her right mind? time for you to wake up and admit all your blunder! better still, take with you your wetting diapher clad twin siraulo gagongonzalez! go to hell!
To my mind, JdV is an alien from a planet called Yoda. We should not bother with this has-been.
Not Yoda, Chabeli. Yoda is supposed to be a wise master of the Force and teacher of Jedi, no tricky tactic. JdV is not wise, just “switik”!
Dahil sa nakapwesto na ang mga ka alyado ni Glueria ay nagsisimula na niyang isagawa ang kanyang mga plano na talaga namang walang makakahadalang, kahit pa nga hadlangan ito ng oposisyon ay tiyak na matutuloy ito. Ang pagsisiwalat ni JDV ukol sa panukalang ito ay upang alamin lamang ang reaksiyon ng taong bayan pati na ang oposisyon. Subalit sa huli ito ay kanilang maipagtatagumapay. Ang katunayan nito may basbas ito ni Bush, ng simbahang katoliko at ng mga alipores ni Glueria kaya pumusta ka na tiyak na llamado si Glueria, kahit bombahin mo pa siya ng bazooka ng militar na hindi pumuputok at m16 na malakas pa ang utot ng kabayo.
Jinggoy and JV are different apart. JV is more decent, intelligent, calmer than Jinggoy who’s hot tempered and arrogant. I heard a story one time when Jinggoy was in a flght and he went to the washroom to smoke. The PAL flight stewardess reminded him it was not allowed. Jinggoy angrily snapped back saying “Don’t you know me? I’m the son of the President”. For some reason, the stewardess did not stop him and the guy went on to smoke inside the CR. His younger brother Jude is another bad boy. One time he used the presidential plane with a bunch of PSG security to fly to one popular hotel in the south. When his father, then President Estrada, learned about this, he immediately ordered his son to come back home with the presidential plane. I remember that was played in media and unlike this current unashamed evil occupant of Malacanang, Estrada was sensitive to media and public criticism against his family’s wrong doings.
AK-47,
Rebellion, sedition, coup d’etat, mutiny also applies to Gloria, Davide, her Generals, elitist civil society and also the left when they cospired to dislodge Erap from his throne and forced us to accepting this ungrown unpresidential usurper.
chi,
If you have the means, get yourself Wells Fargo (WFC) right now! Also, Bank of America (BAC). The banks are the safest stocks in these times. My alarms are going crazy for these two. All the other alarms are for the sliders, all red! Nakakataranta.
Thanks TT for the tip on WFC. I have stocks in other mutual funds, and I’m watching carefully the trend. Iyong stocks ko sa Tokyo, buti na lang tinanggal ko bago ako umalis papuntang Tate kasi parang damdam kong ganito ang mangyayari.
Some bloggers are indeed rich. I hope I also have stock in mutual funds. My mom and sisters all have stocks…stockings they bought from SM.
Yuko,
Tama yung ginawa mo. Pero ayoko ng mutual funds, e. I’d rather lose because of my own doing not by some fund manager but kailangan tutok. Wala na ngang tulugan e.
The other day, I predicted in this blog of a selloff. It happened, -4% sa Manila on Wednesday, kahapon -6%. Kung hindi ako nakabitiw, lugi na ako ng 10%! Sa Nasdaq, last week pa ako nag-out. Sana may natulungan ako dito sa pag-advice ko nung nakita ko sa aking crystal ball.
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goji,
you can start trading online with only $2000. Try TD Ameritrade in Yahoo Finance. $1 per transaction. Unlike brokers who charge 2% – 5% per.
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Bago tayo mapagalitan, back to topic. Walang kumakagat sa amnesty ni JDV. Pati sila Gen. Miranda hindi bilib. Idetalye niya muna. Pag nasilip na para lang talaga kay Gloria iyan, kawawa siya!
Online trading or inside trading whatever you call it is also risky. I know of people who got burned with that. But thanks for the suggestion anyway, Tongue.
Did you guys hear that Atong Ang might be leaving for Cambodia to work as gaming consultant in a company based there? He might already be there. Doesn’t he have pending case in court? How and why was he allowed to leave?
Goji, hindi na tinatanong yan? Si Ang ay lumaya na, di ba? I wonder kung magkano ang bayad ng testimony niya against Erap?
Parasabayan, I’m not sure if Ang is a free man right now. He could have posted bail and the case is still pending. Ellen can help us on this…
may balita pa ba kay atong ang mulang payagang makapagpiyansa? biglang parang apoy na binuhusan ng malamig na tubig, di ba?
nakuha na nila ang gusto upang maidiin lalo si erap at kunyari ay kung ano anong drama pa ang pianganap kay atong habang nasa kulungan hanggang kunyari ay paaminin sa kasalanan hanggang kunyari ay pagpiyansahin, ano pa?
at upang mawala na sa pansin ng madla, ano ano’ng pasabog na naman ang pinalutang ng mga alagad ng bubuwitreng si gloria?
meron pa bang kapanipaniwala sa administrasyon ng huwad, sinungaling at mandaraya?
That’s what I mean, Mrivera. Since Atong posted bail he still has pending case. If his case has been dismissed or he’s acquitted, then his bail shall be lifted and he’s a free man.
Parasabayan thinks Ang is now totally free which I don’t think so.
Tama si Apostol “no right thinking president..” kaso lang si GMA ay hindi tunay na presidente..pang gulo yes.. so how can she be thinking right? We have heard her say a million times (kung pera lang ang mga kasinungalingan niya ay first world na ang Pilipinas) “I have a lapse of memory” “I have a lapse of judgment”..when you keep forgetting hindi lang lapse of memory…state of amnesia na nga . so how can you be thinking right? at ito ang valedictorian ng Assumption? With due apologies to a cousin who was her classmate from kinder to college..siya ang pinakamahusay sa inyo?..hindi kayo na insulto? I hope your school will not give her an award na “bugal kang Assumption” salamat hindi siya taga Antique at hindi siya nabigyan ng “bugal kang Antique.” Kung sabagay may mga exclusive catholic schools na perahan and pera is the thing..and not academic excellence.. Good grief!
No, Atong has pleaded guilty to a lesser crime of conspiring to commit bribery yata yun. That was a plea bargain. He has technically served his jail term while he was hearing his case. And he has paid the P25M fine.
Ibig sabihin ba, inaaain niya yung sinabi ni Chavit na binuhat niya yung impossibleng bigat ng imposibleng magkasya sa dalawang bag na P120M na lagay daw ni Chavit kay Erap Galing sa excise tax?
Kalokohan!
If that’s the case Tongue, then Atong is now as free as a bird. It was this guy who had a feud against Chavit on the number game. Estrada was caught in between their fight. Estrada ended up in jail while the other two are free. What the hell is the kind of justice we have?
Off topic.
Yes, Tongue. ‘Yung radar ko ay nag-green the other day, nakabili ako ng BAC and Citibank. Yehey, half point ang baba ng interes!
Wala akong fund manager since I started trading. My hubby just taught me the basics of online trading and look at me now…blogging in between trading. heheh!
Amnesty,another form of railroading, to free themself from persecutions of public domains, from their crimes they committed,their times are getting closer for an exit, so they have to pave a path for an exit w/o hustle from prosecutions.Logically current administration are the number one Enemy of the state, since extra constitutional means idiotic moves of EDSA2,to installed a big flopper of Sayantist of Economic president,with the blessing of amnestiatic religious leaders,elite of boys club of MAKATI,and stars hungry uniformed service personnels.Once Amnesties for all are passed by lower house,these are not for mutineers or rebels(left or right),it’s for them for a future use,on legal defenses of criminal prosecutions.
goji,
nang lumabas si atong ang mula sa pagkakakulong pagkatapos maglagak ng piyansa, maituturing na siyang malaya. kita mo nga, wala ng balita. baka nga totoo ang sinasabi ni tongue.
alalahanin mo, nakadikit na ang pangalan niya sa laylayan ng palda ni gloria.
That’s right, Mrivera. To think that it was Atong who started all the mess with Singson and then Estrada was caught in between two evils. Estrada is now in jail while the two main culprits are very free. But my understanding of bail is a temporary release or freedom while the case is pending. Atong cannot be 100% free unless his bail bond is lifted. I have not heard that it has been lifted. Same is true with Jinggoy who bailed out. That doesn’t mean Jinggoy is 100% free. If he’s later convicted of his crime, then he can be back to jail. Question is how now that he’s a senator? Is he joining Trillanes in the cell?