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The deal

Now everybody is saying that Crispin Beltran of the Anak Pawis party list and Antonio Trillanes IV of the Genuine Opposition should be released because former Senator Gregorio Honasan, independent candidate for senator, has been released.

All three have been accused of attempting to oust Gloria Arroyo from her fake presidency.

Even Joker Arroyo, Team Unity candidate is saying it. Only two months ago, he said he decided to join Gloria Arroyo’s ticket because the opposition had a coup plotter, referring to Trillanes, in its ticket.

Good. If Beltran and Trillanes are released, the court should also order the release of the 28 officers facing mutiny charges.

The 28 officers led by Maj. Gen. Renato Miranda, Brig. Gen. Danny Lim, Col. Ariel Querubin, Col. Orlando de Leon, Col. Januario Caringal, Lt. Col. Custodio Parcon, Lt. Col. Achilles Segumallian, Lt. Col. Nestor Flordeliza, and Lt. Col. Edmundo Malabanjot, have been accused of planning to withdraw support from Arroyo’s bogus presidency in February 2006.

Except for Colonel Caringal, who is in the hospital, all officers are languishing in their detention center in Camp Capinpin, Tanay, Rizal. This is despite the fact that the pre-trial investigation report on the Feb. 2006 incident recommended dismissal of mutiny charges.

There are several petitions filed with the Supreme Court to stop the court martial scheduled on Friday, April 27. The officers and their family members are praying for a temporary restraining order.

Also, since the Arroyo government is so kind to Honasan, who was accused of inspiring the young Magdalo officers to use dramatic means to expose corruption in the military and other sinister plans of Arroyo and her favorite officials, they should also release the rest of the Magdalo officers who have been in detention for almost four years.

To be fair to everybody.

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The more I listened to Honasan in his TV interviews, the more I believe he struck a deal with Malacañang for his release. No amount of “No deal” denials will erase people’s suspicions.

I don’t believe he will replace any of the candidates in Team GMA. That’s too obvious. He will be siding with Arroyo, together with his mentor Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile, when he gets back to the Senate. If there’s going to be an impeachment trial against Arroyo, you can be sure that Honasan will be on the side of those who will oppose it.

But first, Honasan needs Malacañang to ensure that he doesn’t get pushed out of the Magic 12.

The latest SWS survey puts Honasan in a precarious position of 11-13. Honasan knows very well how effective a call from Malacañang to Comelec can ensure that he is not pushed out of the Magic 12 again just like what happened in 2001 when the turtle votes of Ralph Recto caused him to drop to number 13. That’s why he served only the remaining three years left by Teofisto Guingona who became vice president.

All those coup attempts attributed to him, for which he is now apologizing, is the reason why he is in the Magic 12. People like persons who make a courageous stand against Arroyo. But if he wins because of that perception, he will be supporting Arroyo. That’s despicable.

Asked about “Hello Garci” tapes and questions about Arroyo’ legitimacy, Honasan, who was a member of FPJ’s campaign team in 2004, said he is no longer sure that Arroyo cheated. “Hindi ako handa sabihin na nandaya si Arroyo. Quiet ako doon until makita ko ang ebidensya. Unfair kay Pangulong Arroyo.”

That’s the deal.

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114 Comments

  1. Emilio_OFW Emilio_OFW

    Ms. Ellen,

    The only time Gringo Honasan is telling the truth is when his mouth is shut with his Mona Lisa smile.

  2. cocoy cocoy

    Beforehand,I completely believe that this Blog of Ellen is too powerful and these politicians are reading our forum.Let’s keep the fire burning comrades!They are hearing us all.

  3. cocoy cocoy

    Joker Arroyo’s comment on Trillanes “The poster boy of Rebellion” backfires! now,he is changing course and wanted to sail with the flow of current.Joker just stay in the dessert island where you are stranded.

  4. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    DEAL – It’s clear Honasan got a deal from Malacanang courtesy of Enrile and probably with proddings from Sotto. His statement feigning ignorance that glo cheated to grab the presidency betrays him. He was in-charge of FPJ security and intelligence group during the 2004 campaign, it’s bullshit if he doesn’t know anything on the rigmarole that ensued.

    NO DEAL – The voters are now wise enough to know what’s going on. The surveys show their preferences and while it will not be an overwhelming victory for the opposition, it is good enough to overhaul the agenda of the administration notably their avowed change of the constitution thru con-ass. Although nipped in the bud in the last Congress, they will try and try again for one clear objective: To remain in power.

  5. BOB BOB

    Sigurado na …halatang halata yung deal na ginawa ni Honasan…wala rin palang prinsipyo ang kumag…nagsama-sama na ang mga balimbing, ngayon naniniwala akong may kinalaman nga sila Sotto, Angara sa naglahong campaign funds ni FPJ di malayong kasabwat din si Honasan diyan sa anomalya…
    Lag-lag na sa ticket ko si Honasan , GO 11+1 (Honasan) ngayon GO 11+1 (Bautista) ang kapatiran…..

  6. BOB BOB

    Pero sa balota si Trillanes ang uunahin kong pangalan sumunod lang kay Legarda….talagang pinahanga ako ni Trillanes sa mga sagot niya sa mga tanong sa kanya….
    Di ako nanghihinayang na ilag-lag si Honasan , natutuwa ako at hanggat maaga ay lumitaw ang tunay niyang kulay…WALANG PRINSIPYO !!

  7. From Paul Javier:

    Re deal: A case of double licks: If you can not lick them, then lick them.

  8. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    Bob

    Ako rin, laglag na si Honasan sa line-up ko noon pa. Maaga akong nahunasan. At saka, andyan na si Trillanes. Tama nga yong nga yong jingle na ASO, now HASO. What’s defying our imagination is the four former stalwarts in FPJ camp suddenly suffering amnesia for not being sure now that Mrs. Arroyo cheated FPJ in 2004. Kung ganoon pala, they don’t even believe now the Hello Garci tapes, when in fact their new found little idol with no glow at all, admitted it’s her voice in the tapes by saying I’m sorry.

  9. chi chi

    Poor FPJ, may his soul rest in peace now that he and us know who betrayed him, si Angara, si Sotto, si Oreta at si Honasan, the modern Judases in Pinoy politics!

  10. baycas baycas

    (H)ASO nga! Kapampangan-style. Mga hulol na (H)ASO!!!

  11. Spy Spy

    Honasan is saying that he’s in doubt about the Hello Garci scandal. My golly, didn’t he see gloria asking apology in national tv?

    It’s Honasan in gma’s wonderland. Fantastic!

  12. luzviminda luzviminda

    Kailangan bantayan din ng husto ang mga boto sa Mindanao dahil sa mga nakapwestong tauhan ni Gloria at Garci para sa operasyon ng pandaraya na initantad ni Lacson.

    Sabi sa article sa Abante Tonight:

    “Tatlong katropa ni Garcillano ang direktang itinuro ni opposition reelectionist Senator Panfilo “Ping” Lacson bilang promotor sa pinangangambahang dayaan ngayong eleksyon, kaakibat ang alegasyong naka-standby sa Mindanao ang mga opisyal at naghihintay lamang ng instruction ang mga ito.

    Unang itinuro ni Lacson si Atty. Rey Sumalipao, regional director ng Comelec sa Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao (ARMM) na unang nasangkot sa ‘Hello Garci’ scandal subalit nagawa pang i-promote ni Comelec Chairman Benjamin Abalos.

    Maliban kay Sumalipao, dalawa pang katropa ni Garcillano, sina Atty. Francisco Pobe at Atty. Lintang Bedol ang nakapuwesto ngayon sa Mindanao, ayon kay Lacson kung saan binigyan ng assignment sa paglulunsad ng special operation ngayong eleksyon upang paboran ang kandidato ng administrasyon.”

  13. luzviminda luzviminda

    Chi,

    Tama ka marami na talagang ahas at Judas sa ating lipunan. Ako rin una sa balota ko si TRILLANES. Mukhang siya lang ang handang ITAYA ANG BUHAY PARA SA BAYAN! Hindi katulad ni Honasan na sarili rin pala ang iniisip. At ang mga sagot ni Trillanes ay walang takot! BUO ang Loob! TRILLANES IS THE BEST! Vote Genuine Opposition (GO) para TU di makapwesto!

  14. I don’t know if the report that Chavit is fuming mad about the revelation made by Mike Defensor that he is being replaced by Honasan, who must be reading this blog indeed for him to try to be careful not to reveal who is really his patron now.

    I have no doubt that Enrile has something to do with his release who must have wanted him out although there is none of the asterisks after his name that would make the voters wary of voting for him the way COMELEC must have wanted to give the impression that even when Sonny Trillanes is elected by the people, they will not allow Trillanes to cast his vote for the impeachment of Abalos’ lord and mistress as in master (babae kasi).

    The SC has ruled that Cayetano is not going to be disqualified as stated in the ballots sent to the overseas absentee voters even though a lot many have not received theirs yet which is a reflection indeed of the inefficiency of the registration system of the COMELEC plus the incompetence, inefficiency and negligence of the commissioners and staff there especially under this bogus administration of a master criminal. I wonder why this agency would even try to influence the voters on who to vote for!

    Palabasin man nila o hindi si Trillanes, the people will no doubt eventually decide whether or not they like him to be one of the Senators who would answer to the genuine call now for the criminal to step down and legally be held responsible for the crimes she has committed against the people of the Philippines then, now and in the future. Kasama siyempre lahat ng walanghiya tumulong sa kanila para makaupo sa Malacanang including the master riggers, Garcillano and Assperon.

    Me? Matagal ko nang itinatakbo ang GO 11+0! Pasalamat nga ako kusa nang umalis si Kiko Cuneta. Pero tricky ang ungas. Independent daw siya kaya kung makita niyang malakas ang GO, sasabihin niya sa totoo kasama siya sa GO like what Joker Arroyo is trying to make the impression now.

    Sabi nila magulo daw ang GO, pero tignan natin kung sino ang nagnanakaw pa ng miyembro ngayon. Kundi pa mangakong magbabayad si Tiyanak, ayaw nga nilang ma-identify sa kaniya.

    Malapit na ang eleksyon tunay sa Pilipinas. Sa ibang dagat, nag-umpisa na ang eleksyon noon pang April 14. Kaso tinatamad na ang marami. Konti ang bumoboto daw sa Hong Kong. Iyong mailing by mail ang dapat na pag-ingatan. Binubuksan na ang outer envelope at malamang na palitan ng lutong makaw balota ang original na inner envelope na may lamang balota. Dapat mag-alsa ang mga OFW nito.

  15. For his philandering, in fact, I have never supported Honasan in his political campaigns, etc. Ewan ko kung bakit pero alibadbad ako sa taong ito even when people defend, respect and admire him for playing Rambo.

    Kilala siyang palaging opposed sa mga nakaupo–Marcos, Cory, FVR (?) and now Erap dahil kampi na siya kay Tiyanak! Yikes!

    Siguro talagang walang-wala na ang taong ito kaya ang daling na-lure sa kampo ng mga demonyo. In other words, ganid din pala. Diyan ngayon naiiba itong si Sonny Trillanes, who is trying to be different and make a difference indeed. Iyan ang tunay.

    I heard his interview with Inquirer. Ang ganda ng sagot niya, galing sa puso and really very practical. Defiance indeed becomes a criminal act only when one relegates national interests for personal interests. Sinabi niya iyong ginawa niyang pakikipag-usap kay Tiyanak na hindi pinansin ang sumbong nila kaya sila nag-aklas. Papaano nga naman silang papansinin ni Tiyanak e kakutsaba niya iyong mga nirereklamo nina Sonny, at si Tiyanak ang mastermind sa totoo lang ng mga kabulastugang ginagawa sa AFP.

    Kahit anong sabihin nila. God willing, Sonny will win! I’m seeking for a sign as a matter of fact. I’m praying for a big miracle! I challenge you guys to do the same. Malaki ang nagagawa ng dasal sa totoo lang!

    IBASURA ANG ADMINISTRASYON! IBOTO ANG OPOSISYON! GO 11+0!

  16. Anybody allied with Enrile is definitely an administration ass. I caught that interview on ANC. Honasan reeks of self-preservation. He is nothing but a trapo cum mercenary. His coups before was to install Enrile as president. This is also the reason why they launched a coup against Marcos. Had their plot succeeded, we could probably be under a military junta now.

    He claims to have mellowed down, that’s a lot of bull. Its obvious that like Mr. Noted, nagmamalinis din siya. I’m glad the DoJ is filing a new case against him. He exploited the idealism of the Magdalo for his evil ambitions.

    He said his party is the people, please spare us from your propaganda. Ayaw namin sa walang paninindigan.

    Now he doubts that Glueria cheated. C’mon, sino kaya ang niloloko mo? Tell that to the marines!

  17. chi chi

    S&^%$#T Gringo for saying that you doubt Glueria cheated in 2004. You just revealed your true identity, a trapo through and trough like your ninong Enrile and your newly found ass#$%@ amo malignong Tianak!

    Spare the future generation of your shenanigan, just disappear HUDAS!

  18. indio indio

    who would believe this GMA administration and her minions of evil?? none!!they will do anything just to stay in power!!they will kill or murder people they suspect is against them!filipinos or foreigners!!they even created a gestapo gang in AFP and PNP..look what happen to julia campbell a peace corps volunteer,a theacher,social worker,loved by locals wherever she is and a freelance journalist!!yes she writes articles and the gestapo of gonzales and company suspected here to be writing corruption of people close to GMA,she was being monitored in albay and followed all the way to ifugao!!she is a victim of this murderous and worst regime of modern times philippines!!the suspect dontugan is a fall guy,he dontugan witness the crime perpetuated by the death squad of this regime.he is missing not because he is hiding.he is dead by now!!it is the same figerprint of all the extra judicial killings of leftist,students,journalist and people who expose the corruption of this administration!!if we dont do now to remove GMA,where going to have more killing and murdering of innocent people!!let us all unite and remove this evil people!!

  19. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    Deal with the devil ang ginawa ni Honasan. Ang mga tao, kahit nagdidildil ng asim, hindi na pwedeng paikutan sa ngayon. Pero teka, may nakitang backlash. Hindi raw siya sasama sa tu (as in utu-utu) kasi ayaw niyang matawagang ta (as in ta-ranta na), suma-total, tuta. Pero nakalimutan niya, mas malaki sa tuta ang labas niya, kung tawagin ay haso (with silent h).

  20. nelbar nelbar

    indio:

    iyong unang napabalita sa media na nahulog daw mula sa mataas na bangin si julia campbell at nang makita ang bangkay ay nakabaon? ano ang ibig sabihin nito?
    SOBRANG LAKAS NG PAGKAKABAGSAK AT NABAON SA LUPA?

    bwiset na balita diba?

    ngayon! meron na namang balita na si daniel smith na nakakulong sa compound ng US embassy ay isinugod sa ospital dahil sa pananakit ng tyan?
    asus! nabales, nalamigan o baka naman may kabag lang at white flower ang kailangan?

     

    back to the topic:

    meron nga talagang amnesia!

    hindi ba’t naibalita rin noong 2004, ilang linggo bago ang eleksyon, na itong si JOE DE VENECIA(at ang grupong Lakas ‘Impluwensya’) kasama si Gregorio Honasan(at grupo mula sa PGBI) na may PHOTO-OP.

    Naka-FRONT PAGE pa nga na kapit bisig pa sila para bantayan ang halalan laban sa kaguluhan at pandaraya?

    AT ANG NAGING EPEKTO NITO AY DEMORALISASYON SA HANAY NG MGA TAGASUNOD O MAMBOBOTO NI FPJ?

     

  21. cocoy cocoy

    Honasan only fought for his own survival.As I remembered him being interviewed on his failed coup against President Aquino on 1987,He quoted “We’re not doing this anymore for ideology our politics.We are doing this for survival.” His unaccomplished motives provided rational for more direct military involvement in our country’s economic and political structures.

    Also, he is a coward.This was his statement on Feb.23,1986 during Edsa He quote “I was very scared as we walked toward Camp Crame.But when we reach the first row of people,they started wiping our brows,giving us food and thanking us.I knew that we had won.All my fears disappeared.The worst scenario, for me,was not that we would have been bombed but that the people might run against us.”

    A soldiers will not show his fear and be fearless,even he is scared,to conquer his peers and that is a brave soldiers and it’s not afraid to loss any limbs.

  22. Nelbar, mabuti naman at pinaala-ala mo ang photo-op na yun ni Honasan at ni De venecia.

    Reminder, please try to make your comments concise. Avoid kilometric comments. It turns off readers. Also avoid off, off topics. Thanks.

  23. Ooops, this should read, “Im NOT seeking for a sign as a matter of fact. I’m praying for a big miracle!” that I wrote above.

    Masama ang sign seeking. Binawal iyan ng Panginoon. At saka iyong fuming mad ni Chavit hindi ko alam kung totoo o hindi. Palagay ko palabas din nila, but boy, kunyari nag-aayaw ngayon ang mga ungas knowing that the Filipinos are not buying them anymore for their claim of unity even when everybody knows they are bonded only by the amount of dough they are promised to get from the Unano siphoning public funds for her survival! Everywhere they hold mock elections, panalo ang GO. Hopefully, hindi magkakaroon ng pagkakataon manakaw ang mga boto sa Pambansang Batasan Complex comes election day.

    Concerned citizens should now volunteer to watch those ballots 24 hours kahit na tutukan sila ng baril ng mga military who are being told to hold their guns against these concerned citizens. Hopefully, sabi nga ni Sonny Trillanes, a lot many of their zombie soldiers will wake up from their nightmare and be guided by their oath of allegiance to the state, country and people and not to the criminal holding them by the neck!!!

    Abangan ang palabas ng COMELEC regarding victory daw ni Bugak. I wonder what they have cooked up this time inside that hospital where the Rasputin is confined (kuno). Nakita ninyo ba ang picture niya? Golly, ang bastos ng upo–nakabukaka–idinisplay pa sa medya. Nasabing mayaman daig pa ang mga walang pera sa kabastusan!!! Pinakita pa ang mga taba-taba!

  24. nelbar nelbar

    Matatandaan din natin noong 2004 ang guns, gold at goons.

    Ang dalawang G dito ay ikinakabit sa mga naniniwala o tagasuporta ni Honasan.

    Isa sa mga dahilan kaya binigyan pagkakataon na makapagpiyansa si Honasan ay para magkaroon ng H.O.P.E.

    Honest

    Orderly

    Peaceful

    Election

  25. Sleepless: Deal with the devil ang ginawa ni Honasan.

    *****
    Sinabi mo pa, Sleepless. Parang sinabi, “You are either for God or for Mamon!” But Honasan being a fornicator will never be aware of this grand rule—distinguish between right and wrong, good and evil, virtue and vice, pleasure and pain!

  26. Schumey:

    Kunyari pa si Mr. Cuneta saying that he is independent and does not belong to the GO, but when people still think he is with GO, he would not even want to correct them especially when he is in a crowd of die-hard GOs. Iyan ang impression ko doon sa mga nilalansi niya. It should be stopped.

    GO people should emphatically correct the impression that this creep is still with the GO!!! Iyong mga balimbing do not have a place with GO. Period!!!

  27. Re the picture of Honasan with Devilnecia was really a puzzle to me, too. I could not imagine myself shaking hands with the devil really, and I expect people with real convictions to do the same. Pampagulo lang talaga si Honasan. ‘La ding ibubuga!

  28. prans prans

    25 April 2007

    hehehehehehehehe…… talaga naman, the real color of a person talaga lumalabas din hehehehehehehe…. ulit. It just show that honasan has become a trapo and distance huimself from the gringo that we know off some years back. A TRUE and PROFESSIONAL TRAPO and also a champion “HUNYANGO”.

    PRANS

  29. jojovelas2005 jojovelas2005

    My plan is just to be observer for this blog pero di ko yata mapapalagpas ito.

    DEAL- Enrile to give TU 12-0 in Cagayan (TU WEBSITE). Honasan is the 13th bet according to Recto (journal.com.ph)

    When Ninoy died supporters are chanting “Di ka nag-iisa” and for FPJ “ituloy ang laban”…ngayon iniwan na ang laban.
    It is time for Ms. Susan Roces to stand boldly and firmly campaign for GO…kung ako masusunod I would like to add clips of FPJ burial
    para maalala ng mga tao hindi pa tapos ang laban sa katotohanan…baka ma konsensiya sila Sotto, Oreta,Angara, at Honasan.

    Sayang naka boto na ako last week nasayang ang isang boto ko. Disappointed ako sa pagtanggi ni Honasan about Garci politics nga naman walang kaibigan basta kung saan may resources at kung sino ang puwedeng gamitin walang pinipili.

  30. cocoy cocoy

    That Edsa I, was unexpected to Enrile and Ramos, they have another plan to remove Marcos.
    JPE stated Feb.22,1986 Saturday morning.

    He said;

    Unknown and contrary to the impression of many. I knew that Pres. Marcos could not be driven from the seat of power unless a plan was devised which must include force.

    Over a long period of time, we had to devise this plan. as long as some four years before Feb.22 itself. Why we are making plans? We did not want to supplant him nor install ourselves as the power of the land. We made plans because we knew the design of the military chiefs around him.

    I knew about this design: I do not know if Gen. Ramos knew about it, too. The design was: If the President dies, a group of general close to him would withhold information from the public. Then they would arrest men like me and Gen. Ramos and all other persons whom they considered obstacles to accomplishment of their objectives. After the arrest, they would then announce the demise of Marcos and install Mrs. Marcos as the leader of the nation and the wielder power.

    Enrile also said: We had been planning for four years, but the plan that was put into execution from Feb.22,1986 was very different from the original plan we made.

    Edsa I was not tailored for them, they holed up in Crame because Marcos is ought to arrest them, for their plan to overthrow him.-Enrile made a pleading to Cardinal sin to save his ass because he was scared. This is what he said in trembling voice; “Cardinal, I will be dead within an hour, I don’t want to die, but, if it possible to do something. I’d still like to live. I already heard the order to smash us”

    Now, if we analyze these carefully on what happened to Edsa I, Do you think, Ramos and Enrile did it to restored democracy? I don’t think so, they begged people mercy to save their asses! Honasan being the security of Enrile included. No one was a hero at Edsa! Those main characters were their for their own agenda. They must be thankful to Marcos for not pulverizing them.

    Just come to think, why Honasan staged another failed coup to Cory? The answer is simple, Enrile, Honasan and Ramos are not in power. They are a power grabber. Why anyone think Ramos want to change the constitution? simple he want to be back in power.

    These is the reason I am reluctant with Enrile and Honasan.
    There’s nothing good about them except their personal agenda.

  31. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    Regarding Crispin Beltran.

    There’s a clamor from TU camp (pampa pogi points) to release Beltran in time for the Labor Day celebration sa Mayo Uno. Sabi pa ng husband ni Vilma Santos, nakakaawa naman dahil lolo na at may sakit pa. Pa-drama effect pa ang kumag. It was also bruited that Mrs. Arroyo will announce a bonanza (mga boooo ang ganti rito), for the labor sector. Mababasa natin ang mensahe niya bilang pagbati sa Labor Day, the usual lines. Tiyak na uulitin na naman ang paglakas ng peso, tagumpay kuno sa paglaban sa kahirapan dahil sa patuloy na gumagandang ekonomiya, etc. etc. Sana sabihin niya ito sa harap ng mga manggagawa na tiyak dadagsa sa selebrasyon. Pero sampo laban sa wala, hindi siya dadalo sa okasyon kung gagawin sa labas ng Malakanyang.

  32. sleeplessinmontreal sleeplessinmontreal

    As we are aware, Crispin Beltran is a Congressman under the Partylist. Sa mga gusto nating malaman tungkol sa partylist, we have the provisions of Republic Act 7941 (the Partylist System Act) to answer it. The partylist representation aims to give marginalized sectors a voice in Congress. The raging controversy now is about Comelec’s stand not to allow the accredited partylist groups to reveal their nominees.

  33. parasabayan parasabayan

    I was so naive not to see the angle of tiyanak in releasing Honasan. I thought that somehow the courts were finally waking up. After his interview and after he said he was not sure whether or not the tiyanak cheated, Honasan’s real color came out. To save his ass from being in prison, he has to sell his soul to the tiyanak. The little respect I had left for him just vanished. One bad deed just wiped out the rest of the 9 good deeds. Most of the voters and the Filipinos as a whole must be feeling and thinking the same way I do. THIS IS TRULY THE KISS OF DEATH FOR HIS POLITICAL CAREER and everything else he will do thereafter. He would have done better if he did not strike a “DEAL” with the tiyanak before the elections. NOW HE IS OFICIALLY A TRAPO!!!

    Off topic: A thought came to my mind that Julia Campbell may just be another victim of a foul play. She was a very smart woman, a journalist and maybe an “asset” to the US. I agree with a comment above that maybe the supposed “villain” is now dead, put away by the same “serial killers”. Maybe Julia knew so much more than teaching children and helping us Filipinos. She knew more than she should have and it cost her life!

  34. nelbar nelbar

    The 11 + X campaign of GO is a test for the maturity of Filipino electorate.

    Isang pagsubok ito sa mga botanteng Pinoy kung kanino nila iaasa ang huling slot sa listahan ng Senador.

    Kung sa isang mula sa TU, Kapatiran, Independyente(kuno) na kilala naman natin ang totoong kulay, artista na minsan nang tumakbo sa party-list o sa isang abogado na hinubog ng idelohiya ng Bagong Lipunan?

    Iyong isa na galing pa sa Amerika, doktor sa medisina. Bakit hindi na lang duon tumakbo sa Filipino Community sa Amerika at maging boses sa US Congress?
    Pero mas pinili nya ang Pilipinas(Senado ng Pilipinas ang ibig kong sabihin).

    Wala itong pinagkaiba duon sa mga namayagpag sa Kamaynilaan at piniling tumakbo ng lokal o sa probinsya.

  35. soleil soleil

    a little off-topic Ellen..but this demented gonggongzales is the epitome of vote buying!!! they really all come from the same womb(womb of evilness) – magkakakambal sila nila je-dementia at pakyaw. namumudmod ng insurance and whatever means of vote buying…we have to get hold of this insurance policy and check the provisions inside and we if they are really legitimate companies! as brenda was ‘exposing’ last night at the ‘correspondent’. sabi nya, ang allowance ng mga lekat na trapo (whther they are in the local or region) ay may mga hokus-pokus ways and means para sa pag-o-organize ng mga ‘commission’ nila…this is very obvious in the goings-on of j-dementia in pangasinan and pakyaw in gensan kasi desperate sila…

  36. soleil soleil

    hambalos is quick to dismiss of his kabaro. the likes of resurreccion bora are keeping mum…when are we to start the rebolusyon!!!????!!!!

  37. Mrivera Mrivera

    kung ganito palagi ang takbo ng pulitika sa pilipinas, ang pamamayani ng katulad ni gloria, ano ang naghihintay para sa ating mga supling na maiiwan at magmamana ng kawalang kaayusan?

    muli’t muli ay ating tandaan na isa lamang paraan upang makamit ang ating hinahangad na pagbabago – ang pagbibigay halaga sa ating natatanging karapatan, ang pagboto upang makapamili ng karapatdapat na iluluklok sa pamahalaan. ‘yung mga taong mas pangingibababawin ang kapakanan ng sambayanan bago ang pansarili nilang interes.

    marahil naman, silang mga naninindigan sa ngayon upang mabigyang tuldok ang laganap na katiwalian sa pamahalaan ay tuluyan nang namumulat sa uri ng pamunuang sa dilim namamayagpag at kapag sila ang humalili sa poder ay magdadalawang isip nang gumawa at gayahin ang mga naunang umabuso sa kapangyarihan.

    dati ay kasama sa boto ko si honasan, ngunit sa paghuhudas niya sa bayan kinalimutan ko na suportang dati kong ibinibigay gayundin ang dati naming naging ugnayan.

    sa pagkakataong ito ay mas dapat umiral ang prinsipyo at pagpapahalaga sa kinabukasan ng ating mga mahal sa buhay. huwag tayong mawalan ng pag-asa sapagkat ang pamamayani ng mga tiwali sa pamahalaan ay hindi panghabang buhay. naniniwala akong sa hanay ng ating mga kabataan ay sisibol ang ilang magiging tunay na tagapagtanggol ng ating karapatan.

    kung sino man sila, mabuhay!

  38. Mrivera Mrivera

    nakakapagngitngit ito!!!!!

    DoJ chief ‘buys’ vote of barangay heads

    04/24/2007

    Malacañang and its aides no longer bother to hide their blatant bribes and vote buys, in connection with the electoral race, where money and other administration “goodies” are offered in exchange for a Team Unity (TU) sweep.

    The latest Palace aide to “buy” the so-called command votes is the Justice secretary, Raul Gonzalez, who was reported by GMA radio dzBB as having offered yesterday all the barangay captains in Iloilo, Gonzalez’s claimed bailiwick, P10,000 in exchange for the a TU clean sweep.

    Gonzalez also stated in the same radio station Monday that he will be shouldering the expenses for the scheduled May 10 grand rally for the TU senatorial bets in Iloilo.

    Buying votes is a criminal electoral offense, but Gonzalez claimed that no offense has been committed with his offer, since he is using his own money, not public funds.

    Gonzalez’s Statement of Assets and Liabilities (SAL) has not been made public.

    http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/20070424hed1.html

  39. “Asked about “Hello Garci” tapes and questions about Arroyo’ legitimacy, Honasan, who was a member of FPJ’s campaign team in 2004, said he is no longer sure that Arroyo cheated. “Hindi ako handa sabihin na nandaya si Arroyo. Quiet ako doon until makita ko ang ebidensya. Unfair kay Pangulong Arroyo.””

    The most damning evidence of cheating cannot be seen- it can only be heard. And how will these evidences be seen/heard if our “representatives” will not even allow their presentation?

    Honasan “inspired” Oakwood- how can it be fair to release the “inspiration” and keep the “inspired” in jail?

    We are hearing calls for the release of Ka Bel on humanitarian grounds. I disagree with these calls. My personal call would be for the release of Ka Bel- period. There is no need to justify his release since there is no logical ground for his detention, anyway. Ah, but with the Gonzaleses around, who needs logic?

  40. Mrivera Mrivera

    sa “pakikipagyakapan” ngayon ni honasan kay gloria, ano kaya ang masasabi ni jejomar binay?

    para siguro siyang nakahipo ng ebak ng HASO sa pagpagpag ng kanyang kamay!

  41. Mrivera Mrivera

    ka enchong,

    tama ka. a person who is illegally detained should be relased UNCONDITIONALLY. no ifs, no buts.

  42. Ka Enchiong: We are hearing calls for the release of Ka Bel on humanitarian grounds. I disagree with these calls. My personal call would be for the release of Ka Bel- period. There is no need to justify his release since there is no logical ground for his detention, anyway. Ah, but with the Gonzaleses around, who needs logic?
    *****
    This I agree since there has been no crime committed, why is Ka Bel being held in custody against his will and in ill-health? Ano iyan,just-tiis hangga’t nakaupo si Unano?

  43. Sleepless: Sabi pa ng husband ni Vilma Santos, nakakaawa naman dahil lolo na at may sakit pa. Pa-drama effect pa ang kumag.
    *****
    Sinabi mo pa. Trying to gain pogi points lang iyan kasi kitang-kita nila, paakyat nang paakyat ang mga GO. Dati hindi kasama si Trillanes sa mga mock election at the beginning of the OFW election that started April 14 lalo na noong hindi pinagsasalita at ayaw payagan ang kanyang campaign para matakot ang voters. Pero ngayon malakas ang pag-akyat niya. Baka next survey just prior to the election in the Philippines, huwag lang dayain baka kasama siya sa top 3.

    Pag nanalo ang GO, ebidensiya iyan na galit na ang mga tao. Pag lumabas pang top ang Anakpawis, Bayan Muna, Gabriela despite the asterisks after their parties’ name, ebidensiya na iyan na magbalot na si Unano at iyong matabang mama. Mandaya sila, lalo na!

  44. Come to think of it. Nakita siguro ng mga ungas ang chances ni Honasan na mapaupo kaya kunyari pinakawalan siya ngayon, in the middle of the OFW voting dahil nakita nilang popular siya sa mga OFW.

    Ang hindi alam ng mga bobo, halos lahat ng OFW hinihintay pa ang huling sandali bago magpasiya kung boboto o hindi!!! Nabisto tuloy na hindi pala rambo si Gringo. Ampaw din pala!!!

    Dyan nahuhuli ang mga mandaraya sa totoo lang.

    IBASURA ANG ADMINISTRASYON! IBOTO ANG OPOSISYON! GO 11+0!

  45. Off topic pero relevant. Buong magdamag ang topic sa CNN ay iyong pagsisinungaling ng Bush government tungkol sa mga ginagawa ng US Armed Forces sa Iraq at Afghanistan. Ngayon lumalabas na puro kabalbalan ang ginawa doon na naging resulta ng pagkamatay ng 665,000+ na Iraqis, etc. Ganyan din ang ginagawa ng AFP sa Pilipinas laban mismo sa kapwa nila pilipino.

    Kailangan na talagang maglabasan na ang mga matatapang na buwagin ang bogus na pamahalaan ngayon, at sipain itong mga kumag na akala mo sila ang may-ari ng Pilipinas, pati buhay ng lahat na pilipino.

  46. Mrivera Mrivera

    in redeeming one’s honor and dignity, it takes only blood and continued incarceration but not submitting to the oppressor to forward the fight he is thinking right.

    what’s the use of honasan’s winning and enjoying his liberty if he cannot face the people with his head up high and say he’s still the same old gallant warrior but with the very person he once continuously denounced and who ran after his head? how can he tell his children, grandchildren, relatives, friends and acquaintances that his turning back from what he once stood up for is his realization of what is right?

    anyone may be easily forgotten for what he did was noble but people would put up a stone in his memory while the name of who embraced the deeds of the deceit will be forever shorn of and not worth even a decayed piece of wood to mark his grave.

  47. Mrivera Mrivera

    okey ‘yung political ad ng GO, tumbok ang kabulukan sa bawat sulok ng gobyerno, ang malawakang paghihikahos bunga ng kawalang ng matinong hanapbuhay, ang kriminalidad at ang kawalang damdamin ng gahamang pamunuan.

    nabibinging sampal sa mukha nilang ubod ng kapal!!!

  48. Mrivera Mrivera

    ulit:

    okey ‘yung political ad ng GO, tumbok ang kabulukan sa bawat sulok ng gobyerno, ang malawakang paghihikahos bunga ng KAWALAN ng matinong hanapbuhay, ang kriminalidad at ang kawalang damdamin ng gahamang pamunuan.

    NAKAKABINGING sampal sa mukha nilang ubod ng kapal!!!

  49. nelbar nelbar

    sagot ko duon sa off topic ni Ystakei (April 25th, 2007 at 4:13 pm) :

    Ngayon lumalabas na puro kabalbalan ang ginawa doon na naging resulta ng pagkamatay ng 665,000+ na Iraqis, etc. Ganyan din ang ginagawa ng AFP sa Pilipinas laban mismo sa kapwa nila pilipino.

    Ano ba talaga ang role ng Armed Forces of the Philippines na ginaya sa Amerika?
    Tanong ko lang? Tama ba ang ipinuhunan ng INC(Iraqi National Congress) at pag-uubusin ang lahi ng mga Iraqi?
    Dito sa Pilipinas, ano ba ang dahilan kung bakit nagpapatayan ang tunggaliang pwersa ng AFP at mga kalaban nito?

    Tunay nga bang magkalaban o pinaglalaban lang dahil sa interes ng ruling class?

    MAG-ARAL TAYO NG KASAYSAYAN AT ANG PAGKAKAROON NG TAMANG PERSPEKTIBO NG KASAYSAYAN NG PILIPINAS.

  50. chi chi

    “sinabi naman ni Gringo, naging blessing in disguise ang pagkakakulong niya ng halos limang buwan dahil lalo siyang napalapit sa Panginoong Hesukristo.

    “When you are in confinement, you come to terms with your own mortality, and you come face to face with the only company you have, which is your God…it resulted in a reconstituted Gringo Honasan,” anang dating senador. “www.abante-tonite.com/issue/apr2507/main.htm

    ***

    Reconstituted Gringo Honasan daw! Yeah, totally right, Kasi nakikipag-DEAL ka sa pekeng pangulo!

    Bakit ba itong mga Hinayupaks, kasama ka na Gringo, ay ginagawang campaign/political material ang Diyos?! Kasalanang malaki ‘yan, Gringo!

  51. Sinabi mo pa, Chi. Sinong may sabing nagbago na si Honasan. Ang alam ko, iyong kabit niya dumadalaw pa sa kaniya. Kung nagsisisi siya, total cut off ang ties niya sa mga babae niya! At saka kung talagang nasasa-Diyos ang isang tao, hindi maaaring kumampi sa demonya!

  52. chi chi

    Palayain si KA BEL, now na!

    Kung nabubuhay lang si Ka Blas Ople ay baka ni hindi nila nagalaw si Ka Bel o kaya ay matagal nang nakalaya ang matanda! Am I correct mga Oples?!

    Habang nasa nakaw sa pwesto ang power-hungry poser president at mga idiot Gunggong Gonzaleses, walang hustisyang iiral sa Pilipinas. Tiradurin sa bumbunan ang mga ‘yan hanggang sa ma-imbalido pati utak!

  53. Mrivera Mrivera

    from GO’s website, tamang tama kay gloria:

    THE GENUINE Opposition yesterday urged voters to take a stand against corruption and resist the much touted ‘command vote’ being pushed by Malacanang.

    GO spokesman Adel Tamano pointed out that there is a more important command that people should remember .”Let us not forget that the real command that we should follow is the 7th commandment that is thou shall not steal. “

    “Commanding people to vote for people not of their choice ,steals their freedom to choose. Additionally, the funds involving in command voting may have been obtained in violation of this very commandment.”

    Despite a resounding lead by opposition candidates in surveys, with the top six all being GO candidates Malacanang insists that it can summon a 12-0 victory through its cheating machinery and its power to compel command votes.

    http://www.genuineopposition.com/jpowered/newscms/index.php?action=fullstory&articleid=90

  54. nelbar nelbar

    chi:

    Ano kaya kung i-endorso ng mga religious groups at simbahang katoliko si Honasan?
    Kung hindi lumabas noon si honasan, magiging bago sa paningin ng taumbayan ang mga simbolo na tiwarik na bandila ng Pilipinas.
    HIP sana ngayon ang idealist soldier.
    Kung ang idealist soldier kaya ay galing sa rank and file, may papansin kaya?

  55. nelbar nelbar

    Mrivera:

    Ang Pork Barrell/CDF at Congressional Iniative Allocation pala ay source na ng pangkabuhayan?
    Sa madaling salita ay pantawid gutom at hintay na naman ng tag ulan.
    Ang isa sa mga humuhubog ng lipunan sa Pilipinas ay ang makinarya na tinutukoy mo.

  56. Mrivera Mrivera

    Gov’t caves in to calls for Beltran’s release

    04/25/2007

    The Arroyo administration will no longer block any move by Anakpawis party-list Rep. Crispin Beltran to be temporarily released through bail.

    This was confirmed yesterday by National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales in a text message, hours after the security cluster held a closed-door meeting in Malacañang.

    The security chief, when asked if it is true that they assured Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) representatives that the government will not stop Beltran’s release through bail, replied in a text message to reporters, “Yes, but the courts will decide.”

    Gonzales, however, failed to elaborate if Beltran’s case was discussed in the security cluster meeting.

    Reports said Beltran is scheduled to file a petition for bail anytime this week.

    The IPU earlier questioned the detention of Beltran and also conducted an independent inquiry into the series of political killings in the country.

    http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/20070425hed2.html

  57. BOB BOB

    Soleil, Re; Comelec R. Borra
    …Isa lang ang masasabi ko….(pasintabi po) ”ANG DULING WALANG GAWANG MAGALING”

  58. rose rose

    LET’S MAKE A DEAL!
    DON’T lick them. KICK them.
    VOTE: GO. Para ang ating bayan ay Magbago.
    VOTE: TRIALLANES. Para ang ating bayan ay Malinis.
    Honasan: ALIS DIYAN!

  59. chi chi

    Ellen, this is off topic but I want to know if true habang may panahon pa na i-junk si Manny Villar! Kung hindi rin lang niya isasama si Trillanes at ibang GO, I’ll ask my relatives and friends to junk him, too! Hindi talaga maganda ang pakiramdam ko dito kay Villar, wala akong makitang roots! Ano ‘yan puro sila DEAL?!

    ****

    Fellow GO bets excluded from Villar’s ‘sample ballots’

    04/26/2007

    By Angie M. Rosales

    Junking of fellow candidates in the Genuine Opposition (GO) is alleged to be now taking place, with Senate President Manuel Villar Jr. being at the center of the supposed controversy.

    It was claimed that Villar is “secretly” campaigning for his group in the Senate, the so-called “Wednesday Group” — two of them, Senators Joker Arroyo and Ralph Recto are seeking reelec-tion under Pre-sident Arroyo’s Team Unity (TU) while the other, Sen. Francis Pangilinan, is running as inde-pendent candi-date, sources yesterday disclosed.

    http://www.tribune.net.ph/headlines/20070426hed3.html

  60. Chi:

    Remember what I wrote in my earlier posts re Villar? Kundi nga lang naka-commit na akong i-promote ang GO, ayoko talaga ang taong iyan. Balimbing talaga ang ungas! May nakabangga akong galamay niyan before. Tactic nila kunyari sasali pero manggugulo lang pala! Swapang ang mga ungas. Gusto nilang makakuha na boto na para sa oposisyon pero naghihili din sila doon sa mga ninanakaw ni Pandak na perang ipinamumudmod doon sa makakatulong sa kaniyang maging permanente sa puwesto! Ano iyan?

    You bet, nililito lang nila ang mga botante. Pero madali namang makita ang mga ungas sa totoo lang. Common sense lang naman ang kailangan.

  61. chi chi

    WOW! Pinabilib ako ni Trillanes.
    (Part of the transcript)

    ***

    Lynette Luna: How would you like to be remembered? What kind of senator would you like to be remembered as?

    Antonio Trillanes IV: Well, to tell you honestly, I wouldn’t want to be remembered at all. Because every public official, whether he is a senator or a — an ordinary government official should just perform genuine, honest and humble public service. You don’t do that so that you can be remembered or you want a legacy or the life in government.

  62. chi chi

    Antonio Trillanes IV: As far as corruption — eradicating corruption is concerned — the first step really is, you have to remove the corrupt leader.

    In this case, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. Because from where I came from, which is the military, we cannot reform a unit or a squad, a platoon or any major unit in the AFP if the commander is corrupt.

    ***

    Sige, kayo na ang magtuloy bumasa. 🙂

  63. chi chi

    5 senatorial bets won’t use pork if elected.

    Sen. Panfilo Lacson, a reelectionist who has previously given up his pork barrel allocations, prefer to forgo it. The other senatorial candidates who reject the pork barrel system are detained ex-Navy Ltsg. ANTONIO TRILLANES 1V and the three candidates of Ang Kapatiran: Martin Bautista, Zosimo Jesus Paredes II, and Adrian Sison.

    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/39589/5-senatorial-bets-wont-use-pork-if-elected

  64. Excellent input Ellen!

    “Good. If Beltran and Trillanes are released, the court should also order the release of the 28 officers facing mutiny charges.”

  65. cocoy cocoy

    Trillanes can and will eradicate corruption together with Lacson,I am on their crusade against it. Graft and corruption has always been commonplace throughout the government, from a traffic policemen to Generals, from the barrio captain to the presidential palace. I found it myself on several occasions, found access made it possible to process important papers by “tips” to a municipal clerk to typed the paper quickly and not to be back for the next day, worth two days of her government salary. I became a “tong” system victim on a traffic violation driving in Manila suburbs while I was unaware of if, I really violated any traffic rules, whereby, a motorcycle cop who has a fat belly collected his three days salary on me, and also a jeepney driver ahead of me, He lost his boundary. I heard an story that a firemen attending some of the major fire would not connect their hose until the owner of the burning building made an arrangement.

    Graft and Corruption has always been a problem in our country,it has become more widespread as poverty has bitten deeper. It is a way of life. Such practices are difficult to control and perhaps it is now possible if Trillanes and Lacson come up on their promises.

  66. There is nothing to compare the tough talking sincerity of Trillanies with the hollowness of Gregaro Honasan.
    Observing the news clips of Honasan’s release he looked nervous, timid and exhausted to the extent of being a spent force looking for an easy way out!
    There’s no doubt in my mind that he, Honasan is ready to follow the leader and speak with fork tonge. Whereas the opposite is that of Trillanes who says the same words he spoke in 2003 that he says now in 2007 and spells it out against the Arroyo Administration without fear of favour. Trilllanes is proving to be the Genuine article.

  67. Mrivera Mrivera

    watched last night the episode of PROBE in the filipino channel.

    nakakaawang tingnan ang naging kalagayan ng kanya kanyang pamilya ng mga nakadetineng opisyal sa tanay na isang napakalaking kahihiyan para sa pamunuhan ng sandatahang laos ni espurol sapagkat inilalarawan nito ang kawalang damdamin ng mismong dapat na magsaalang-alang sa kanilang karapatan. gayundin ang madamdaming paglalahad nina gng. divinagracia at cordero tungkol sa tunay nilang damdamin sa ipinaglalaban ng kanilang mga kabiyak ng dibdib.

    isang pagbubukas isip ito para sa kanila na kung sakaling mapawalang bisa ang bogus na kasong ipinagdidiinan ni espurol laban sa kanila, maisip sana nilang minsan sa bahagi ng kanilang buhay ay naranasan nila ang paghihirap na gaya nang dinaranas ng pamilya ng mga ordinaryong kawal na ang karampot suweldong tinatanggap ay hindi sapat upang maitaguyod nang maayos ang pangangailangan ng kanilang mahal sa buhay kapalit ng matapat na paglilingkod sa bayan.
    gayundin sa nakakulong na matataas na opisyal gaya nina heneral miranda at kim, koronel querubin at mga kasama.

    maging isang adhikain din sana ito ni sonny trillanes sakaling siya ay maluklok sa senado sapagkat ang mga karaniwang kawal ay kapamilya niya sa tunay na marangal na sandatahang lakas at nararapat lamang na bigyan niya ng puwang sa kanyang mga isusulong na batas.

  68. Mrivera Mrivera

    …miranda at LIM…….

  69. nelbar nelbar

    napanood ko rin kagabi(Wednesday) Mrivera ang Palaban(GMA7) at isa sa featured senatorial candidate nila ay si Antonio Trillanes IV.

    pinanonood at inaalisa ko ay hindi si Trillanes.
    Ang mga tanong at ang motibo ng nagtatanong kay Trillanes.

    Learn the lesson of Honasan.

    pati ang mga podcast interview, pinakikinggan ko kung anong klaseng tanong ang ipinararating sa isang kandidato.
     
    may delay kapag nagrefresh itong site ni ellen.
    is this another kind of DDOS?

  70. nelbar nelbar

    Mrivera:

    punta ka sa archives ni Ellen na date ay January 31,2006.

    May makikita ka na topic “David and Honasan on Feb. 7” January 31, 2006 at 9:45 am

    basahin mo ang mga sinabi ng mga nagpost.

  71. Mrivera Mrivera

    nelbar, wala ang sinasabi mong post.

  72. nelbar nelbar

    http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=126

    noon last year lang puno ng pag-asa ang mababasa mo sa dyaryo.
    pero ngayon, nakapag-piyansa si honasan, panay ang bato ng putik sa kanya.

     

  73. chi chi

    WWNL, welcome back!

  74. Nelbar,

    Most of the posts are spam, courtesy of the Internet Brigade trying to “baboy” Ellen’s blog! 😛

  75. Gusto kong marinig ang input ni Tongue T re Honasan. Nakaka-depress, I know, lalo na kung fan ka ni Honasan, but please, Tongue T., what’s your take on this balimbingan!

  76. chi:
    thanks, glad to be back after house move and phone-line transfer – smile

  77. parasabayan parasabayan

    I was one of those that gave Honasan the benefit of the doubt. But now that he got out on bail under questionable merits and had openly uttered that he doubted Arroyo’s election cheating, his real color came out! There is no doubt in my mind that he was just after his welfare(just like the ASO), nothing else. Actually his release from jail and his utterances thereafter will hurt him more than help him unless the tiyanak will also cheat for him this time because tiyanak knows that she has Honasan by his balls.

  78. Never liked Honasan. A desk soldier whose claim to fame is all that is dubious.

  79. Schumey,

    “He claims to have mellowed down, that’s a lot of bull.”

    I accept that he may have mellowed down because he knows he’s been found; he is an opportunist, a proponent and practicioner of dirty MILITICS.

    I never thought he was any good even when he was a desk soldier. I’ve always believed that he was glib with the gift of the gab but he was never, to my mind, someone who had great moral courage.

    Easy to have physical courage, even my little tiny dog has more physical courage than a bull mastiff but the real test of a man is his ability to walk the talk, i.e., INSEPARABLE MORAL & PHYSICAL COURAGE.

    Sadly, many of our politicians don’t possess the latter; on that score, they’re only half men.

  80. Ooooops, Sadly, many of our politicians don’t possess the FORMER (moral courage); on that score, they’re only half men.

  81. BOB BOB

    Tawa ako kay Mr. Shooli…(jun Urbano) Kung nuong araw daw panahon nang Edsa, si Honasan tumatalon sa helicopter naka-parachute may Ahas pa sa leeg….Ngayon daw si Honasan ang mga bakod at Condo na lang ang tinatalon nababalian pa…he…he..he..

  82. AdbBrux: Easy to have physical courage, even my little tiny dog has more physical courage than a bull mastiff but the real test of a man is his ability to walk the talk, i.e., INSEPARABLE MORAL & PHYSICAL COURAGE.
    *****

    Hahahahaha! Can’t help being reminded of my mother’s dog in the Philippines. Kumakahol sa mga strangers pero lumalakad patalikod!!! In short, duwag!

  83. chi chi

    “INSEPARABLE MORAL & PHYSICAL COURAGE”

    Moral- *nahuli si gringo with his pants down!
    *nakipag-DEAL siya sa demonyang Tianak for his liberty!

    Physical Courage- *Palagi na lang siyang undeground tuwing may kaso!

    *Nakapo lang pala ang assignment niya sa militar, meaning no combat experience.

    “Half man” pala si Gringo!

  84. Yuko: Hahahahaha! Can’t help being reminded of my mother’s dog in the Philippines. Kumakahol sa mga strangers pero lumalakad patalikod!!! In short, duwag!

    Ano yan, kapatid ni Gringo?

  85. Gringo’s problems seemed to start when in hiding when he tried to get his leg over – the wall – injuring his foot escaping from the house who he didn’t know who owned it and things seemed to go downhill from there. Not showing the confidence of past years, trying to run against younger and smarter candadates who don’t need to sell their soul to the she devil, not even for their freedom.

  86. cocoy cocoy

    Gringo is an example of
    Liberator in the past,now a traitor.

  87. nelbar nelbar

    Panay Psychological warfare!

    kung iaasa ang bansa sa mga bluffer walang mangyayari. talagang pupulutin nga sa kangkungan ang Pilipinas!

    Isa sa mga consequences ng panay daldalan sa labanan ay nakakabobo!

     

  88. nelbar nelbar

    >Gusto kong marinig ang input ni Tongue T re Honasan.
    >Nakaka-depress, I know, lalo na kung fan ka ni Honasan,
    >but please, Tongue T., what’s your take on this >balimbingan!

     
    bakit pa iaasa kay TI,A ang usapan dito?

    diba kayong mga taga UP ay ivory tower intellectuals kuno?

    o mga pseudo intellectuals lang na namumulot ng mga idea sa putikan?

    Naalala ko noong mid 90’s na meron akong isang officemate nang nagta-trabaho pa ako sa paging company, isa syang undergraduate galing sa UP. Natutuwa sya sa pagkabaliw ko sa anumang diskusyon na may patungkol sa France at Germany. Euromania sabi nya.

    Oo naman! sabi ko. Alangan naman na Africa, Amerika o China ang i-idolo ko?
    Panay nga ang pakikipag-usap nya sa akin ng French. Istudyante kasi sya ng European Languages.

    Naikwento pa nya sa akin, na kapag meron mga ‘binayle’ gatherings, pinag-pa-partner daw ang mga taga UP at PMA(Phil. Military Academy). wow! parang Eugenics diba?

    Minsan napag-usapan namin kung papaano nagsimula ang mga eskwelahan o universidad dito sa bansa.

    Bilib pa ako noon sa naging Presidente ng UP na sina Ed Angara at Jose Abueva.

    Pero sa kasalukuyang tinatahak ng bansa natin at mga katulad lang naman nina Angara at Abueva ang magiging FOUNDING FATHERS ng PINOY NATIONHOOD, ay hwag na lang!

    Hindi nakakapagtaka kung bakit madaming mga bakla na nagkalat at namamayagpag media.

    UP is the craddle of tsimoso’t tsismosa!

    Asahan mo na, kapag produkto ng UP at Ateneo, hahalik sa pwet ng mga Amerikano!

    Kunyari pa kuno na Jose Rizal at Andres Bonifacio ang inspirasyon pero hwag ka! George Washington, Thomas Jefferson at Benjamin Franklin pala ang totoong dino-dyos?
    pwe!

  89. nelbar nelbar

    what’s wrong about my posting on founding mothers?

    Ang sabi ko, sa bahay na lang muna ang mga babae at hayaan na i-settle ng mga lalaki ang problema ng bansa.

    What’s wrong with the message of who’s pimping the PINOY NATIONHOOD?

    Dapat nga maisawalat dito sa blog ni Ellen kung sino sino ang sumasalaula ng lipunan natin!

  90. Anong problema mo, Nelbar? Inggit ka siguro sa mga UP grads. Frankly, before Angara became the president of UP, it was a republic within a republic, and good enough breeding for good citizenry. Whatever happened afterwards to the likes of Marcos, et al, is no longer the fault of UP. Intiende?

  91. Nelbar:

    Ako hindi bilib kay Jose Abueva. Never liked this guy even when I first knew about him when he was working in Japan as an instructor at the UN University here. He is not the typical UP professor that I respect and admire. Ikaw ang naloko!

    As for my calling on Tongue T for his opinion on Honasan, it has nothing to do with UP or nationhood. It was a question to someone who had written much about Honasan and tried to justify Honsan. I thought he must have felt sorry he did. Huwag kang masyadong malisyoso. Ipinapakita mo lang na mas masahol ka sa mga tsismoso at tsismosang ibinibintang mo sa mga UP grads.

  92. Sorry, this should be, “good enough breeding GROUND for good citizenry…”

  93. nelbar nelbar

    Nakakapagtaka sa administrator ng blog ni Ellen, hindi muna hayaan na basahin ng mga poster dito kung ano talaga ang nilalaman ng messages ko kanina April 28th, 2007 at 6:30 am

    Kung meron man na kumwestyon ng posting ko, handa akong sagutin dito sa blog ni Ellen.
    Kapag marami ang humusga na mali ang posting ko, duon palang dapat nai-edit?

    Meron bang involve na NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES sa posting ko?

    Isang beses na nag-post ako dito na may patungkol sa mga host ng Eat Bulaga at EDSA spirit, ewan ko kung bakit tinanggal?

  94. cocoy cocoy

    Ystakei & Nelbar:
    Hindi n’yo ba nabalitaan na sina Eduardo Ermita at Mike Defensor ay nagkasagutan.Sabi ni Ermita malaki raw ang bunganga ni Mike Defensor,ang sagot naman ni Mike,ingit ka lang Edong dahil matanda ka na at hindi mo na kayang sumabay.
    Namagitan si Pakyaw at siya ang referee,Nag-inglish si Mane,Ang sabi niya.Hey! old man come on and fight your son!No boxing below the belt.

  95. Sorry, Cocoy, I don’t read gossip especially propagated by Malacanang! It is all crap to me!

  96. Anna,

    Nakakatawa talaga iyong aso ng mother ko. He was given to her by my father to keep her company. When we left for the US, hindi nakasama for some reason. The next we heard, may nag-petnap (as in kidnap) daw. Siguro ginawang pulutan ng mga kapampangan! 😛

  97. Yup, it was a he!

  98. Nelbar, as much as possible, let’s confine discussions to the posted topic.

    There’s nothing wrong with your commnets per se but that is not the issue at hand. There’s a time and place for everything.

  99. nelbar nelbar

    Cocoy:

    wala naman below the belt sa sinabi ko.
    isa sa mga maling nakagawian ng mga Pilipino ay tinatanggap nilang personal ang kritisismo sa kanila.

    Ito ba ang Filipino Ideology?

    Ang isa sa mga hinaing nuon ng core group ng Reform the AFP Movement, na kung saan si Honasan, ay nabibilang ay ang promotions sa AFP.
    Karamihan sa mga pino-promote ni Marcos ay iyong mga malalapit sa kanya. Mayroon pa nga na na-e-extend pa sa serbisyo.

    Kung hindi dahil kay Honasan, nanatiling un-checked ang mga isyu at hinaing sa AFP.

    Kung hindi lumabas noon 2003 si Honasan, malamang ang nangyari sa Oakwood ay magiging kaparehas na lang ng Cavite mutiny noong 1872.

  100. Mrivera Mrivera

    honasan will (just) remain part of modern day philippine history, no doubt about that. but since he cowed and chose to mellow his stand regarding the cheat, he’s just like a spent dud bullet.

    any person who values his principle will never succumb to any pressure even that of costing his dear life, but honasan chose, in this crucial and final stage of his life and career, GAVE UP his fight for truth and justice.

  101. Mrivera Mrivera

    “any person who values his principle will never succumb to any pressure even that of costing his dear life, but honasan chose TO, in this crucial and final stage of his life and career, GIVE UP THE fight for truth and justice.

  102. TonGuE-tWisTeD TonGuE-tWisTeD

    nelbar Says:

    April 28th, 2007 at 7:04 am

    >Gusto kong marinig ang input ni Tongue T re Honasan.
    >Nakaka-depress, I know, lalo na kung fan ka ni Honasan,
    >but please, Tongue T., what’s your take on this >balimbingan!

    bakit pa iaasa kay TI,A ang usapan dito?
    diba kayong mga taga UP ay ivory tower intellectuals kuno?
    o mga pseudo intellectuals lang na namumulot ng mga idea sa putikan?
    —————-

    Wala yatang pagpilian, a. Parehong negative choices. What are you trying to insinuate, nelbar?

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