Here is a man who was born in a small town, the child of a peasant woman.
He grew up in another town. He worked in a carpenter shop silently until he was thirty. Then he worked for three years as a traveling preacher.
He never wrote a book. He never had a family. He never held an office. He never held a home. He never put his feet inside a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place where he was born. He never did one thing that usually accompanies greatness. He had no credentials but himself.
While still a young man, the tide of public opinion turned against him and his friends ran away. One of them denied him. He went thru the mockery of a trial. He was nailed on a cross between two thieves. His guards gambled for the only piece of property he had while breathing his last, and that was a coat. When he was dead, he was laid on a borrowed grave.
Twenty centuries have passed and he is the center of the human race. I am not far within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, and all the navies that ever were built, and all the kings that ever reigned, and all the presidents that ever were elected, all together have not affected the lives of men so, as has that ONE SOLITARY LIFE.
(Author unknown)
Truly, indeed!
One MAN made a great impact on the lives of men and nations!
Time to think:
A hundred years from now,
it will not matter what our BANK ACCOUNT was
the type of cars we drove,….
or the kind of houses we built!
But the world may be different
Because we did WHAT WE HAVE TO DO
……….and in doing so,
we just might make a difference.
isang dakilang TAO na siyang iniinugan ng buhay ng bawat tao sa mundo subalit pinipilit lampasan ang kadakilaan ng mga mapagsamantalang kulang ang sisidlan ng ganap na kasiyahan at gusto ay mapasakanila ang lahat ng yaman sa sangkalupaan.
Yes, He surely did make an impact on many lives because HE IS THE SON OF GOD! He said so as a matter of fact, and I do believe Him. He is my Savior and my King! At least, I am sure of that. The Holy Ghost has testified it to me and my fellow believers in Him.
One thing I love about His teachings is that He does not claim sole ownership of God’s love as when He must have instructed His disciple, John, to make an emphasis of it as when John wrote, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” (John 3:16-17)
It is what Christmas and Easter are all about combined! BTW, Christ was actually born in spring not winter, and the prophesy fulfilled at the fullness of His 33 years on earth.
Happy Easter One and All!
Ellen, Hay sarap ng spring break sa Merica. Ayun third time na every year lumalabas kami ng tatlong apo sa nephews ko, kasi one week no class sila. Lanky at mahahaba sila. After four hours drive nakarating din yung van namin sa Yosemite tapos tuloy sa malapit na disierto para mag camping. I got the news below in a small city stop na may internet. Importante kasi para sa mga bloggers. Travel pa kami, bakasyon pa kasi.
Will Jesus Christ be a blogger today?
Journalist or Activist?
Video blogger Josh Wolf is free from jail. For Wolf, it’s the end of a record-setting prison term. But the debate over his role as a journalist continues. By Kevin Sites, Tue Apr 3, 10:58 PM ETEmail Story IM Story
SAN FRANCISCO — Whether he is a journalist or not, as many debate, Josh Wolf believed strongly enough in the journalistic principle of protecting his sources that he was willing to spend seven and a half months in a federal prison being faithful to it.
Click here for the rest of the story.
He humbled and sacrificed himself so others may live. He was the first open-minded activist, died in the hands of a tyrant government.
Jesus…. You are my hero..!
Happy Easter.
The problem is when a the noble life of a man is interpretted by a bunch of evangelists so that his life’s story conforms to the “prophesies” of the Old Testament and then turns this intepretation into the basis for a vast, powerful, and organised religion called Roman Catholicism that has through history been responsible for horrific acts of inhumanity — Crusades, Inquisitions, witch hunts, and the decimation of countless pagan cultures — all in the name of this humble man.
So as we focus on the true essence of the life of this man, let us put all the pomp, ceremony, and lofty edifices of the Catholic Church, the fine clothes and jewellry worn by our cardinals and bishops in the proper perspectives. All these artifacts are just manifestations man’s misguided interpretation of what Jesus truly stood for.
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And let’s not be quick to judge or damn people of other faiths who are not “saved” in the name of Jesus by the quaint rituals of the very human leaders of our organised religions.
That kind of thinking is the height of hypocrisy and the root of much of the evils of this world.
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Ellen,
Magnificent piece. Thank you very much.
Btw, Philstar photo caption says “Penitents are nailed to crosses in Pampanga in this annual re-enactment of the Passion of Christ.”
What about Gloria? How come she’s not been nailed to a cross in Pampanga? Hasn’t she said ‘I’m sorry’ yet over her 2004 cheating operations?
Btw, Philstar photo caption says “Penitents are nailed to crosses in Pampanga in this annual re-enactment of the Passion of Christ.”
What about Gloria? How come she’s not been nailed to a cross in Pampanga? Hasn’t she said ‘I’m sorry’ yet over her 2004 cheating operations?
Napakaganda ang artikulo. Bagay sa Mahal na Araw. Maikli pero puno ng buhay at pagmamahal. Isa lang ang masasabi ko. Si Hesus ay sentro ng pagkakilala ng mga Kristiyano sa buong mundo. Pero huwag din natin kaligtaan na sina Mohammed at Buddha din ay labis na kinikilala ng kanilang mga deboto. Maaaring ang Kristiyano ang may pinakamalaking bilang sa mundo, para sa iba ay kanilang mga pinaniniwalaan at kinikilala ang kanilang sinusunod kahit na ba mas kaunti ang bilang. Hindi din masusukatan ang kanilang debosyon at pananampalataya. Sa tutoo lang, kung susuriin natin, sa kabila ng napakalaking bilang ng Kristiyano, ilan ang talagang sumusunod sa mga aral ng Diyos at ni Kristo? Marami ang ipokrito at ipokrita. Nagpapakita lang sila ng pagsunod tuwing Mahal na Araw at Pasko. Pagbalik ni Kristo, ang itatanong Niya: Bakit niyo ako tinatawag na Panginoon? Hindi ko kayo kilala!
Anna, I just want to clarify that I did not write the above masterpiece. It’s a famous article, like Desiderata, which has been published time and time again, without a byline.
si Hesukristo ay iginagalang lalo na ng mga muslim bilang pinakatanging propeta at pinaniniwalaan nilang hindi kailanman naipako sa krus at namatay, bagkus ay iniakyat ng Diyos Ama sa langit upang maligtas sa nakakahiyang kalagayang nababagay lamang sa isang pusakal na kriminal, ayon sa koran.
dapat ngang paniwalaan sapagkat kung isinugo ng Diyos si Hesukristo upang palaganapin ang kanyang salita, bakit hahayaan niyang siya ay paslanging tulad ng isang itinatakwil na salot sa lipunan?
at, naniniwala rin ang mga muslim na si Hesus ay babalik na mag-uli upang siyang maghukom sa sangkatauhan batay sa kanilang gawa, iniisip at salita, batay na rin sa nasusulat sa banal na koran.
Tilamsik:
You said Christ must be an activist? He could be. He was even described by some as the first Socialist! Remember how he advocated being one’s brother’s keeper, and sharing one’s wealth with the needy. not bribe someone with loots from the national treasury that is definitely sharing, or how the Pidals distribute those rice and ramen bought with padded bills and call it charity, which definitely it is not, nor can it be called “generosity.”
On the other hand, let’s not spoil the sanctity of this topic with sarcasm, cynicism, etc. as some demonically possessed creature is apparently disgustingly trying to lead the discussion in this loop into.
This is actually a good chance to reflect on our relationship with Christ, our Big Brother, and God, Our Father even with the help of the Holy Ghost with or without this creature trying to destroy the good mood this topic on Christ can inspire.
Yuko,
I agree totally. Christ was a human rights advocate and a political activist.
But we ought to keep this thought among ourselves here because if Gloria learns that, aakuhin niya yan – sasabihin niya, siya din pareho ni Kristo…
Nampuchang Gloria, baka mamaya sasabihin niya, nakausap niya si Kristo sa Pampanga.
Magno:
Tama ka sa sinabi mo. I was actually surprised to hear from a Moslem friend that they actually regarded Christ as a prophet and had more respect for Him than what Christians as a whole were taught to regard Mohammed, whom Jews and Christians deny is a prophet.
Moslems actually also believe Jesus Christ of having been born of the Virgin, but not as the Only Begotten Son of God. Isn’t that amazing?
This should read: ” not bribe someone with loots from the national treasury that is definitely NOT sharing,”
Gloria’s fat husband is the modern version of the Filipino Barabas. Si Gloria naman, siya ang femal Judas Iscariot.
Iyong mga tauhan niya, Bunye, Ermita, Defensor, Bengzon (oooops, tauhan ba itong si Romela ni Glori?), etc ang mga modern day centurions.
Anna,
I wonder how she would look if she tries to emulate the example of her fellow kapampangan who love to nail themselves on the cross for viewing and picture taking by foreigners! Heaven forbid! Huwag naman sana niyang sabihing kamukha niya sa Jesus Christ at magpapapako din siya!!! It will be the utmost blasphemy!
Robert, thanks for sharing the article but please,just link it. If you don’t know how to link, include the internet address so i can be the one to link it.
I’ve already linked the Josh Wolf article.
Yuko,
Alam mo naman si Gloria, mahilig sa photo-ops para ma front page nga naman uli ang Pinas, baka nga magpapako yan sa Pampanga.
OK lang yon, huwag na lang siyang ibaba ng mga kabalen niya at hayaan na lang nakapako siya hanggang matapos ang eleksyon sa May.
Mas mahusay sana kung ipako rin ang asawa niya at itong si anak niya, si Malacanang Mafia Jr Don aka Pidal Jr sa tabi niya – pero pabaligtad.
Ako ang bahalang bumili ng mga 10-inch na pako, made in Poland.
Malaya headlines “B-girl GMA says she doesn’t feel 60”
Nagyabang na naman ang putragis na tiyanak.
Has it occurred to that old hag with a big fat behind she calls her ass that those who live in garbage dumps, i.e., Baseco, Payatas, railroad slums, etc. may actually be a lot younger but feel much older than Gloria’s vaunted 60 years “young” because they have nothing to eat or no money to pay for St Luke’s Hospital bills.
I bet even the kids we see roaming the streets of Manila who have ginger/blondish hair and cataract infected like eyes (on account of lack of nutrition and vitamin deficiency) as well as the 14-year old children prostitutes reported by BBC must feel SO MUCH OLDER than this putragis na mayabang na bansot na Gloria na yan.
Ipako na sa krus sa Pampanga iyang putragis na si Gloria.
Kung ipako si tiyanak sa Pampanga, huwag kalimutan iyong nunal niya sa pisngi…doon ipako ang pinakamalaking pako.
Kapag magkatotoo at maibalita na magpapa-pako sa krus si Gloria sa Pampanga ay siguradong dudumugin ng mga tao ang lugar.
Bakit?
Dahil lahat ng mga magpupunta doon ay mayroon mga kutsilyo at gagawing target ang kanyang nunal sa pisgi.
Artsee, huwag mong palalagyan ng pako ng nunal.
Mang Emilio, mas madali sa nunal niya ipako dahil “bull’s eye”.
Pareng Mriver:
I agree with you that some muslims believe in Jesus,
In the Quoran,Jesus called ‘Isa.He is also known as Al-Masih
(The messiah) and Ibn Maryam (son of Mary).He has many honorable names and titles in Quoran.he was a highly respected religious figure.Every muslims believe in him,honors him,and loves him.
Sayang naman yong pakong gagamitin kay Gloria, may pakinabang pa sa pako pero kay Gloria talagang wala na.
Di bale ng sayang Jdeleon… basta maipako lang iyang putragis na Gloriang iyan sa Pampanga (kasama ng mga kabalen niya – Philstar edition of today yata), di baleng mag-aksaya ng ilang pako.
Matetano sana siya pagkatapos maipako.
AdbBrux Says:
Nampuchang Gloria, baka mamaya sasabihin niya, nakausap niya si Kristo sa Pampanga.
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Di ba sabi ng isang obispo:
okey lang kausapin si Cristo,
the other way around ay sira ulo
Anna:
Iyong mga apostles ni Jesus Christ pinakong pabaligtad kasi iyon din ang request nila so as not to defy the prophesy of Isaiah kasi si Jesus Christ na siya lang ang mapapako sa krus.
The method of execution kasi noong panahon ni Jesus Christ ay itali sila sa krus at hayaang magutom, mapagod at ma-sun burn hanggang sa mamatay, at possibly tusukin ng spear para mapadali ang buhay nila, but none was nailed on the cross dahil sa totoo lang bibigay talaga ang pako sa laman ng tao. Kaya noong ipinako si Jesus Christ sa krus, pinako siya ang kaniyang mga palad, and para matibay ay pinako din ang kaniyang mga wrists, at paa.
Iyong pelikula ni Gibson ay grotesque ang dating but I can imagine that Christ has suffered that much or even more, for men possessed by the devil can be as cruel as those who demanded him to be crucified. The centurions, Anna, were just doing their duties, and not being Jews, they just could not care less.
I would not want to compare the Tiyanak’s supporters to the centurions, pharisees and publicans then because as you say I would not like the Tiyanak to get ideas of comparing herself to Christ because Jesus Christ was never A CRIMINAL as the bogus president is. Cheating in an election and stealing public funds are crimes even by Philippine standard and laws, and one who commits a crime is a CRIMINAL. This is what should be put in the head of every Filipino, voter or not, out there.
Anna,
I prefer the hanging by the lamppost! 😛
Ang pagkaalam ko’y mga kriminal ang itinatali at ipinapako sa Krus noon unang panahon. Bakit pati si Kristo ginanoon? Isa pang palaisipan ay kung saan nagsimula at kung bakit nagsusuot ng kuwintas na Krus ang mga Kristiyano lalo na ang mga Katoliko. Hindi pa ba sapat ang mga hirap na dinanas ni Kristo at isusuot pa? Kung simbolo ng isang kriminal ang Krus, bakit pa isusuot? Halimbawang binitay ang isang kriminal sa pamamagitan ng silya elektrika, ibig bang sabihin okay magsuot ng kuwintas na may maliit na silya elektrika bilang simbolo? Tanong lang naman.
Thanks Yuko so ibahin na lang ang pagpako diyan kay tiyanak – ipako na lang sa lampost ng pahalang, that way, wala ng quid pro quo.
Pero iyong mga galamay niya sa Malacanang, kailangan din na ipako pero patiwarik nama, sa lampost din.
Hayaan silang magutom habang nakapako sila.
When they have made penitence, di alisin na iyong pako at pakainin ng longanizang pampanga na puro taba ang laman pareho ng baboy na asawa ni Tiyanak.
Re The centurions, Anna, were just doing their duties,
Yep, I know but I wonder if it hadn’t occurred to them that they were following an illegal order… Ok, I take that back, during the time of Emperor Jules, the rules of engagement for the troops were different; they had to go by the cultural traditions of the day.
So, inasmuch as pagpako sa krus is also a cultural Lenten tradition in Pampanga, puwede ng ipako si Tiyanak – sa lampost nga lang pero pahalang nga lang.
Ipako na lang si tiyanak na pabaligtad. Ang ulo niya sa ibaba at ang dalawang paa ay nasa itaas.
Artsee,
Nampucha ka naman… Sabi na nga ni Yuko, kapag ipinako mo yang si Tiyanak ng pabligtad, magyayabang pa yan na siya isa sa mga 12 Apostles of Christ.
Kaya dapat pag ipanako mo si Gloria sa poste – PAHALANG… pareho ng kaluluwa niya, ok ba?
Bakit sa lampost pa ipako? Mas mahusay yung ipako na lang siya sa windmills tapos sana bumagyo ng hangin ng pagkalakas-lakas. Mas matindi yon dahil iikot pa. Siguradong hilong-talilong na siya. Mantakin mo na pati panahon ay galit na rin.
Dioskopo…mahal na araw ngayon bakit nag-iisip ako ng hindi maganda.
Masama ang magsalita ng nampucha ngayong Mahal na Araw. Tonguena na lang. Alam niyo bang nag-retreat pa kuno si tiyanak kasama ang kanyang kabinete sa Baguio? Gaya ng dati, nagbabanal-banalan. Ang alam ko lang diyan marunong magnunal-nunalan. May kaibigan akong archer na asintado. Ano kaya kung panain niya ang nunal ni tiyanak.
Artsee,
Tama ka, nasa biblia yan sa Mathhew 7:21-23 –
‘Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
I Thessalonians 5:16-22
‘Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
Do not put out the Spirit’s fire; do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.’
Ano nga ba ang dapat nating paniwalaan? Napakaraming religion o sekta. Pero ano ba ang kaibahan ni HesuKristo sa ibang sinasabing propeta? Bakit napakaraming nagbuwis ng buhay mula ng mangaral si Hesus hanggang ngayon? Let us examine our faith. Can our religion save us? As for me, the words of God are written in the bible. The bible is a compilation of writings of the prophets and the witnesses of the life and sufferings of Jesus Christ. Thousands of different manuscripts from different people having the same messages about Jesus Christ. And we know the places where these events happened. And the prophesies written in the bible that has happened and is happening. TRULY THIS JESUS CHRIST IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF GOD, THE PORMISED SAVIOR OF MANKIND!
From Arkibo
A Holy Friday posting: “mere specks of blood” photo gallelry at http://www.arkibongbayan.org, or go to:
http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2007-04April05-merespeck/merespeck.htm
si san juan bautista ang sinasabing propetang naglinis ng daan upang ihanda sa pagdating ng dakilang mangangaral at manunubos, si Hesus na nagsabi namang susunod sa kanyang pagdating ng mang-aaliw, si propeta mohammad na natupad nga humigit kumulang anim na siglo mula nang iakyat ng Diyos sa langit si Hesus.
It is important that we read the word of God (bible) ourselves and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us into all Truth. Jesus promised us the Holy Spirit. We don’t have to depend our salvation to our preachers, teachers, prophets or whoever. Our church leaders are there so that there will be order in the congregation or the organization. They cannot save our soul. ONLY JESUS CHRIST CAN. There are a lot passages concerning JESUS CHRIST that tells of the FULFILLMENT of the SCRIPTURE. These Scriptures are the ones written by the numerous Prohets of GOD that our forefathers have known. And about 2000 years ago the JESUS, THE SON OF GOD, FULFIILED WHAT WAS WRITTEN TO SAVE THOSE WHO BELIEVED!!!
“TRULY THIS JESUS CHRIST IS VERY SPECIAL BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF GOD, THE PORMISED SAVIOR OF MANKIND!”
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Hmmm.
There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus proclaimed himself the Son of God.
I think the evangelists did that for him without consulting him.
In fact, the evangelists who wrote what was to become the New Testament never even knew nor met Jesus in person (considering that they wrote the New Testament long after Jesus died). And it seems they chronicled his life with strong pressure from their leaders to backward-engineer this story to fit the “prophesies” of the Old Testament.
In fact, the whole story of how Jesus (a native of Nazareth) ended up Bethlehem (as the prophesy would have it) is so convoluted and unlikely (the Luke’s and Matthew’s accounts are even inconsistent with one another) that it flies in the face of common sense.
Jesus probably turns on his grave everytime a war is waged under his name, or a person claims to be “saved” simply by praising his name.
Just some food for thought for this Lenten season.
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Mrivera Says:
April 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
si san juan bautista ang sinasabing propetang naglinis ng daan upang ihanda sa pagdating ng dakilang mangangaral at manunubos, si Hesus na nagsabi namang susunod sa kanyang pagdating ng mang-aaliw, si propeta mohammad na natupad nga humigit kumulang anim na siglo mula nang iakyat ng Diyos sa langit si Hesus.
Mang Rivera, may nakausap ako minsan na miyembro ng ibang sekta ng relihiyon na kung susundin daw sa sinabi mong iniakyat ng Diyos si Hesus sa langit, paanong maiaakyat daw ang isang Diyos ang isa pang Diyos? Bakit hindi kayang umakyat si Kristo ng mag-isa kung Siya daw ay tunay na Diyos. Ang kung tatanungin kung nasaan si Kristo ay mababasa daw natin sa biblia na Siya’y nakaupo sa kanang kamay ng Diyos. Ang ibig daw bang sabihin dalawang Diyos ang magkatabi na nakaupo? Nag-isip ako ng malalim sa sinabi ng kausap ko noon. Hanggang diyan na lang ako at wala nang dagdag dahil ayaw kong maging dahilan ng pasimula na pag-uusap tungkol sa tunay na kalagayan ni Hesus. Para sa aking, ang mga araw na ito ay nagbibigay sa akin ng pagkakataon na maalala ang mga sakripisyo ni Kristo na tumubos sa kasalanan ng sanglibutan.
Benigno says:
“There is no evidence to suggest that Jesus proclaimed himself the Son of God.
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There are a lot of passages from the bible that testifies that Jesus Christ as the Son of God. In fact Jesus Christ himself said that He is:
John 10:36-38
-what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
Other passages that tells of Jesus as Son of God:
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
Luke 1:30-33
But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”
Ate Luz, siguro itong si benigno gaya ni goldenlion taga-INK o dili kaya’y Jehova’s. Kung hindi sila naniniwala na si Kristo ay Diyos, iyon nga. Ang isang argumentong naririnig ko mula sa mga taong iyan ay wala naman nakasulat sa biblia na si Kristo ay Diyos. Kung susuriin mabuti, oo nga. Mula Genesis hanggang Reveletion, ang mababasa lang natin ay “Son of God” pero wala tayong mabasang “God the Son”. Malaki daw ang pakaiba nito. Kung lahat tayo ay mga anak ng Diyos, ibig ba daw sabihin na Diyos din tayo? May puntos din ano? Tulad ng Trinity na walang mabasa sa biblia. At kung tanungin ang mga sumulat niyan ay sasabihin isang “mystery” ang Trinity. Ewan ko ba. Para sa akin, naniniwala akong may isang Diyos na tunay at Siya ang lumalang sa atin.
Benigno says:
“Jesus probably turns on his grave everytime a war is waged under his name, or a person claims to be “saved” simply by praising his name.”
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Sorry Benigno, But Jesus is not anymore in the grave, He has already RESURRECTED!!!
Huwag mong isipin na naniniwala ako kay benigno, ate. Pero gusto ko lang itanong sa iyo kung saan sa mga talatang binanggit mo na nagsasabi at nagpapatunay na si Kristo ay Diyos. “I am God’s Son” ay hindi “I’m God o also God”. Puwede ko din sabihin na “I am God’s son” kasi naniniwala ako na ako’y isa ding anak ng Diyos di ba? “…He only gave His begotten Son”. Kung Diyos si Kristo, bakit pa may magbibigay sa kanya sa mundong ito? Pansinin mong may nagsugo at may sinugo. May pagkaiba ito. Walang Diyos na susugo sa Kanyang sarili di ba? Kung gamitin naman ang “Emmanuel” para patunayang si Kristo ay Diyos, medyo may punto din ang iba kasi pangalan lang daw iyan. Kung si Pedro ay tinawag na “Rock” o “Bato”, hindi naman daw ibig sabihin na siya’y tutoong bato.
Ang tungkol din naman daw sa “Resurrection”, ang paliwanag ng iba’y hindi naman daw si Kristo ang Siya mismong nag-resurrect sa Kanyang sarili. Sabi nila’y “It was God Who resurrected Jesus”. Samakatuwid, kung Diyos si Kristo ay bakit pang may bubuhay sa Kanya? At sabi pa ni Kristo sa isang talata na Siya’y aakyat sa langit sa Kanyang Ama, ating Ama. Nangangahulugan na iisa lang ang Ama natin sa langit. Bago namatay sa Krus si Hesus, napasigaw siyang “God, why thou has forsaken me?” Ang tinutukoy niya ay ang Diyos. Sa Juan 17:1-3, tumingala si Hesus at kinilala ang Diyos ang Siyang tunay at nag-iisa. Hindi Niya binanggit na Silang dalawa ay Diyos. Sabi pa ng iba na si Kristo ay isinalang na tao, lumaking bilang tao, pinarusahang tao, namatay na tao at umakyat sa langit bilang tao. Sa katunayan, hindi alam ni Kristo kung kailan Siya babalik. Walang nakakaalam maliban ang Diyos. Kaya kung Diyos din si Kristo, dapat alam din niya kung kailang ang pangalawang balik Niya sa mundo. Ang mga sinabi ko ay napag-aralan ko lang at ipinaliwanag sa akin ng iba. Hindi ibig sabihin naniniwala ako sa lahat na binanggit ko. Dahil pinag-uusapan din naman si Kristo at angkop ang ganitong tema sa panahong ito, mabuti na din ang maliwanagan di ba?
Artsee,
In the bible, the deciple John, who is also called John the Beloved, The one who is also at the crucifixion of Jesus Christ said:
John 1:1-5
‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.’
Jesus Christ as he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane said, concerning His Nature:
John 17:1-5
‘After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.’
Artsee,
Para din yang ikaw at ang Tatay mo. Mas may kapangyarihan ang Tatay mo kaysa sa iyo di ba. Pero pareho kayong tao. Si Kristo at ang Ama ay parehong Diyos ngunit mas higit at katangi-tangi ang Kapangyarihan ang Ama.
Artsee & Luzviminda:
Nalilibang ako sa palitan ninyo ng diskusyon,sige lang ituloy ninyo,may magagandang aral akong napupulot sa inyo.
Artsee,
When we talk about Godship, we talk about POWER. Kaya minsan we say na nag aastang parang Diyos, it is because of the Power a person assumed to exercise. Kaya yung sinasabing God the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD it is because HE HAS THE ULTIMATE POWER! THE ESSENCE OF BEING GOD!
Tungkol naman sa pagiging anak tayo ng Diyos, those who are believers, ang ating pagiging anak ng Diyos ay parang adoption because of our relationship with Jesus Christ. Hindi tayo magiging Diyos kailanman.
Adoption as Children(Sons) of God:
John 1:12
‘Yet to all who received Him, to those who believe in His name, He gave the right to become children of God.’
Ephesians 1:5
‘In love he predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will.’
Romans 8:14-17
‘Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you slave again to fear, but you receive the Spirit of sonship. And by Him we cry “Abba Father” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in His glory.’
Luz, I don’t think Benign deserves a “sorry” from you.
Ate Luz, maganda ang paliwanag mo. Siguro Pastor na babae ka ano? Pero sa sinabi mo na mas mataas ang Diyos kay Kristo at pareho Silang Diyos, hindi ba ang Diyos ay walang kapantay? Paanong hihigit ang isa sa kanila? Walang iba sa aral ng Jehova’s Witness na hindi naniniwala sa Trinity pero naniniwala na ang Diyos Ama ay “Almighty” at si Kristo ay “Mighty”. Paanong may Almighty na, may Mighty pa? Nakakalito din ano? Sa Juan 1:1 naman, ang paliwanag naman ng iba ang salitang “Word” ay tumutukoy sa isang konsepto o Concept o Plano ng Diyos at hindi si Kristo. Noon pa man daw, nasa isip at plano na ng Diyos na isugo si Kristo sa mundo. Ewan ko ba. Buti pa mag-aral na lang ako ng Theology o Christian Ministry.
AdbBrux,
What I mean is that I feel sorry for him. He may missed his salvation.
Artsee,
Hindi ako pastora, I just happen to be searching the scriptures lalo na yung bible. Binabasa ko rin ang iba’t-ibang turo ng ibang relihiyon. But I am so amazed at the bible kasi it tells about the Messiah, the Savior. Hindi ako blind follower ng church leader. Humihingi ako ng guidance sa Holy Spirit because I also believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit will guide us into ALL TRUTH!
Artsee,
Tungkol dun sa Word, ituloy natin ang basa sa:
John 1:14
‘The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only Begotten who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
So, ibig sabihin yung Word na tinutukoy ay si Kristo, hindi isang konsepto lang o plano ng Diyos.
Artsee,
Dun sa tanong mo na paanong hihigit ang isa sa kanila. Balik tayo sa analogy ng Tatay at anak. Sa relasyon ng Tatay at Anak, hindi pwedeng hihigit ang Anak sa Ama. Kaya mas may kapangyarihan ang Ama.
Naging tao ang salita dahil sinugo ng Diyos si Kristo. Naging kaganapan ang salita ng isilang si Hesus sa mundo. Ang “Word” o salita sa Greko ay “concept”. Matindi talaga iyang Juan 1:1 dahil malalim na aral iyan. May kanya-kanyang interpretasyon. Pero kung susuriin daw ng mabuti ang talatang iyan, hindi pa din pinatutunayan na si Kristo ay Diyos. May pilosopo ngang nagtatanong sa atin ng ganito: Nasaan si Kristo sa kasalukuyan? Ang sagot ayon din sa biblia ay nasa langit si Kristo ngayon na nakaupo sa kanan ng Diyos. Kung Diyos din si Kristo, di may dalawang Diyos ang magkatabi ngayon sa langit.
Luzviminda:
Huwag mo nang sagutin walang modo. Pati ba naman si Hesukristo binabastos. Hindi ka na kailangan pang makipagdebate sa mga bastos sa totoo lang. Remember Jesus Christ counsel to His disciples to be careful of giving the pearl of great price, meaning the Words of God, to the swine? “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” (Matt. 7:6)
You and the rest of Christendom know Christ referred to Himself, directly or indirectly, as the Son of God, and reason why the Pharisees thought He committed blasphemy against God. How else would Luke, Mark, Matthew and John have known that He was the Only Begotten Son of God if He did not tell them so? Remember the passage in John 3:16 that says, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Ang linaw-linaw niyan.
Hindi ko binabasa ang kabulastugang sinusulat ng taong iyan sa totoo lang. Useless kasi. Baka makapulot ka pa ng salita ng demonyo!
Ate Luz, pero kung balikan natin ang turo sa biblia, walang hihigit pa at kapantay ng Diyos. Sa talata ng Philippians, may binanggit na sa bandang huli ay susuko pa din ang lahat pati na si Kristo sa Diyos. Sabi ko nga medyo mahirap ang usapan tungkol sa katangian ni Kristo. Kung isa din dahilan kaya tinawag Siyang Diyos ay dahil sa mga himalang ginawa niya, hindi lang naman Siya ang nakagawa niyan. Ang ibang apostol ay gumawa din ng himala. At ang mga kapangyarihan at milagrong ginampanan ni Kristo ay mula lahat sa Diyos na nagbigay sa Kanya.
Artsee,
Malalim talaga ang mga salita sa biblia at mahirap maintindihan kung literal na interpretasyon. Kaya nga kailangan natin ng guidance ng Holy Spirit. May mga verses na si Kristo ay Salita, He is the Light, He is the Door, He is the True Vine, The Bread of Life, The Alpha and Omega. Kung literal talagang di natin maiintindihan. But we have to continue searching the scriptures, not just read the literal meaning. Siguro sadya din ng Diyos yan para ma-test kung talagang hahanapin natin Siya at ang Katotohanan.
Artsee, saan sa Philippians para masaliksik natin?
Tama ka Ate Luz. Kailangan may patnubay ng Ispiritu Santo. Ang Salita ng Diyos ay isang misteryo. May talata din na aral ng aral tayo ng salita pero hindi natin maiintindihan. At lalo lang tayo malilito. May mga taong literal ang pag-aaral ng biblia. Paniniwala nila na kung wala sa biblia at hindi binanggit ay hindi dapat sundin. At kung ano ang nakasulat ay iyon na; walang dagdag at bawas. At mali ay kung iibahin o ibabaluktot ang aral para lang bumagay sa kanilang mga sariling aral. Maraming relihiyon ang ganoon.
Ystakei,
Okay lang kung maise-share ko naman sa iba ang kaligtasang galing kay Kristo.
Mayroon pang verses na patungkol sa pagiging Diyos ni Kristo:
Philippians 2:6-11
‘Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Kung ipagpapatuloy mo ang pagbasa ng talatang Philippians, mababasa din na isusuko ni Kristo sa Diyos ang lahat. Kaya tama ka, mas nakakahigit ang Ama na nasa langit. Ang binanggit sa talata na kaanyo ni Kristo ang Diyos ay hindi daw nagpapatunay na Siya din ay Diyos. Walang iba sa aral na “Ang Diyos at Ako ay iisa”. Iisa saan? Hindi sinabing iisang Diyos. Iisa sila sa pag-alaga ng tupa. Iyan daw ang ibig sabihin. Mahiwaga talaga ang biblia.
Artsee,
Ang alam ko ay ibinigay na ang lahat ng Ama kay Kristo ang kapangyarihan sa sanlibutan.
Ephesians 1:22-23
‘And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.’
Artsee,
Maraming tao ang nalilito at di maintindihan ang pagiging Diyos ni Kristo tulad ng INK, Jehova’s Witness at pati yata ang 7th Day Adventists, dahil sa hindi nila sinasaliksik ang ibang verses sa biblia. Nakatuon lang sila sa verses na gusto nilang paniwalaan. Pero kung pagsasamsamahin nila ang verses patungkol dito ay baka maintindihan nila sa tulong ng Espirito Santo. Di ba kamangha-mangha na si Kristo ay namuhay dito sa sanlibutan bilang tao, bagamat’s siya ay Diyos, hindi niya ginamit ang kanyang pagkadiyos dahil kailangan niyang maranasan ang maging tao dahil ililigtas niya ang sangkatauhan.
Luzviminda from Philippians: “he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross!”
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Sinabi mo pa Luzviminda. Christ was in fact through the line of Mary and Joseph was supposed to have descended from King David, but unlike the Tiyanak in the palace by the murky river who claims ascendancy from Lakan Dula, a Tagalog not Kapampangan Chieftain, nothing much was mentioned that He tried to claim his earthly royal blood, except in the first part of Matthew who mentioned about the genealogy of Christ from David: “The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.” (Matt. 1:1)
However, He did clarified that He was the one prophesied by Isaiah by quoting much of His teachings from the Book of Isaiah, who prohesied of His birth and crucifixion saying:
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”（Isaiah 9:6-7)
Ayon sa mga relihiyon na binanggit mo, Si Kristo ay isang Tao na bukod tangi. May taglay Siyang mga katangian na wala sa ordinaryong mga tao at ang ilan dito ay hindi Siya nagkasala at dapat sambahin. Pero hindi daw nangangahulugan isa din Siyang Diyos. Malinaw daw sa Biblia na iisa lang ang tunay na Diyos. Ang Diyos ay ayaw ng may iba pang Diyos at walang kapantay sa Kanya. Kaya nga din bawal ang sumamba sa Diyos-Diyosan. Pero sa kabila ng mga katangian ni Kristo ay hindi pa din Siya Diyos. Dahil ang lahat na iyan ay ipinagkaloob lang ng tunay na Diyos sa Kanya. Kaya sinasamba si Kristo ay hindi daw dahil sa Siya’y Diyos din kundi dahil iyan ang utos ng Diyos. Kaya may kapangyarihang magpatawad si Kristo ay dahil ang autoridad na iyan ay bigay ng Diyos. Si Kristo ang Tagapamagitan ng mga tao sa Diyos. Si Kristo ang Tagapagligtas. Si Kristo ang daan sa kaligtasan. Maliban daw diyan ay Tao pa rin Siya na tulad natin.
Tignan ninyo ang pagkakapareho ng nakasulat sa Bibliya sa tunay na kaganapan ngayon, mahigit dalawanglibong taon ang nakaraan ngunit tila kailan lang naitala.
Ang huling linggo ng Lent at nagsimula ng Domingo de Ramos at nagtatapos ng Sabado de Gloria.
Mula sa makapasok ni Kristo sa Jerusalem sakay ng humenta (mule) at salubungin siya ng mga taong may dalang Ramos (palm leaves) hanggang sa araw ng Sabado de Gloria, ang araw ng kawalan ng pag-asa, paghihintay, pagkatakot, at pagdadalamhati, lahat ng mga araw na iyon ay puno ng pighati, pagtataksil, kaguluhan at kasamaan.
May pagkaka-pareho pa ng mga pangalan ng ating mga pinuno. Ang pitong araw ng Lent ba ay katulad ng pitong taong paghihirap ng ating bansa?
Sa Bibliya ay palaspas ang iwinagayway, sa EDSA, mga banner. Bida ang mga taumbayan, naipagwagi raw nung araw na iyon ang pagpasok ng kabutihan. Hossana, sigaw pa. Nagbunyi ang lahat. Pero hindi pa nagtatagal, nagsimula nang sirain ng mga Escribas at Fariseos ang diwa nito, natakot sila na ang kapangyarihan nila ay mawala dahil nakita na ang tunay na pinagmulan ng kapangyarihan, baka mawala sa kamay ng iilang nakikinabang. Ang mga sumunod na araw ay nauwi sa panggigipit, pang-aabuso, pagkulong, pagpapahirap hanggang sa tuluyang pagpatay. Nandito na nga tayo ngayon sa Sabado de Gloria.
Magandang pangitain iyan dahil pagkatapos ng Sabado de Gloria, sigurado ang muling pagkabuhay. Muling babangon sa pinagkasadlakan upang tuparin ang misyon sa lupa. Ang pagbabalik sa kaayusan, kalayaan at tunay na kasaganaan.
Sa Pasko ng Pagkabuhay ay bagong pagasa ang naghihintay para sa lahat. Lalo na sa ating mga Pilipino. Isang aral din ang iniwan sa atin ng pasyon at buhay ng Tagapagligtas: Hindi kayang pahirapan, saktan, patayin at pagkatapos ay ilibing ninuman ang katotohanan, ang kabutihan, ang diwa tunay na makapangyarihan. Ito’y babangong magmuli upang wakasan ang kasamaang pilit naghahari-harian at ibalik ang tamang daan para sa matagumpay na paglalakbay.
Happy Easter to all.
Wow!pinabilib ninyo ako,kung ganyan lagi ang usapan at talakayan kahit magdamag at maghapon ay ipagluluto ko kayo ng kapeng barako na galing Batangas,huwag lang kayong gulihin ni BenignO.Marami akong natutunan sa inyo na hindi ko alam,ang alam ko lang basta’t taos ang paniniwala ko kay Kristo at laging siya ang tinatawagan ko pag may problema ako,siya ay magaling kong abogado,doktor at maestro.
Cokecoy, ngayon lang ako makikipagtalakay ng usapang relihiyon dahil Mahal na Araw na angkop na angkop. Basahin mong mabuti at marami kang mapupulot dito. Si benigna tameme na dahil hinadlangan ng Ispiritu na sirain ang usapan dito. Nandoon siya sa kampon ng kadiliman at nag-iinuman sila ng Kuya Lucifer niya.
I John 5:10-13
‘Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.’
IT is GOD who has given us the testimony about Jesus Christ His Son. HIndi pa ba tayo dapat maniwala? Don’t make our GOD a liar. GOD NEVER LIES!
GOD BLESS US ALL! HAPPY EASTER!
Artsee;
Nalibang talaga ako ng husto sa inyo,di ba sinabi ko naman sa iyo noon pa na matalino ka at henyo,ngayon mo lang inilabas ng husto.Doon sa kabila si Hindinapinoy ay gusto ka pang agawan ng highest score,kulang pa siya ng sampung answer,hindi pa niya alam ang sagot sa question from number6-15.
Masarap pala kapag magaganda ang mga binibitiwang salita sa ganitong talakayan,Manood na lang muna ako,hindi ko kabisado ang subject na ito.
Nakakabilib nga si luzviminda, parang si Eli Soriano kung magdugtong-dugtong ng mga passages na related. Si Artsee naman, seryoso pala pag relihiyon ang usapan. Dun sa pinanggalingan kong thread, tuli ang usapan, e. Ano bang relihiyon mo artsee? Akala ko dati buddhist ka.
Pag ganyan ang usapan, hindi ka mase-censor, hehe! Tuloy ang diskusyon.
Tongue;
Sa ganitong pagkakataon lang nagkasama-sama ang mga sepulterero,kaya ganado ng husto.Sabi mo nga Tuloy ang diskusyon at manood ako,naka sampung supot na ako ng pop-corn at 5 cups na coke.
Artsee,
Ibigay mo yung mga verses about Jesus being God na nai-post ko dito sa blog, dun sa mga kakilala mo na hindi naniniwala na si Kristo ay Diyos. Then bahala na silang magsaliksik ng mensahe nun. Pinaka-importante ang kaligtasan ng ating kaluluwa higit sa ano pa man.
Pero alam mo Artsee yung ugaling mong palabiro, dala mo yan sa kabilang buhay. Kasi kung ano ang karakter natin, like masayahin, palabiro, tahimik, ganun din ang mga “glorified body” natin pagdating sa Kaharian ng Diyos.
Cocoy:
Bakasyon ang mga sepulturero, kahapon pa nailibing ang namatay. Palangoy-langoy muna sa Palawan, hehe.
Mahal kita Ate Luz. Sa katunayan ay nadarama ko ang Ispiritu ng Diyos habang binabasa ko ang paliwanag mo. Tulad mo, nag-aaaral at nagsaliksik din ako. Mga Buddhist ang mga magulang ko. Noon nabubuhay pa ang lola ko ay sinasamahan ko siya sa mga templo ng Intsik. Nang mamatay ang lola’t lolo ko ay ritual na Buddhist ang ginawa. Kung napanood niyo ang “Mano Po” ay iyon ang sinunod ng pamilya. Pero nabinyagan akong Katoliko nang pumasok ako sa Catholic School. Hindi ko na babanggitin kung saang eskwela ako nag-aral dahil bawal magyabang sa mga araw na ito. Basta ang masasabi ko lang ay mga exlusive schools iyon. Tungkol naman sa usapang “tuli”. Walang masama. Balita ko puro supot ang mga Hudyo noon kaya baka kako supot din si benigno. Kami lang si Cokecoy ang nakakaalam kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng German Cut. Ewan ko lang kung may tawag na Pinoy Cut.
Tongue;
Kasama ba si BenignO doon sa Palawan.Kagabi ang huling palitada niya.Ha!ha!ha!
Kapag pumasyal si benigno sa Palawan baka mapagkamalan na Chinese o Vietnamese porchers iyan. Payuhan mo nga na manatili na lang sa Metro Manila at magisisi sa kanyang mga kasalanan. Kung pumunta iyan sa Palawan, baka barilin siya ng Coast Guard. At saka baka ipahuli ko siya kay Pareng Hagadorn.
Actually mga ka-blog, I was born a Catholic, yan naman ang dominant religion sa Pilipinas, but now I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Mas gusto kong tawagin follower and believer of Jesus Christ. Bugbog na rin kasi ang salitang Christian. Minsan nagiging parang “brand” na lang. Pero mula ng magbasa ako ng biblia ay mas nakilala ko si Kristo at mas naiintindihan ko na ang kanyang mga salita at aral. Baptised na rin ako sa water by immersion. Sabi ko nga walang “religion” as an organization, na maaring magligtas sa atin. Kailangan suriin natin ang bawat aral na binibigay ng ating mga pastor, pari, propheta, ministro o anupaman tawag sa leader ng simbahan. Although nararapat din naman na tayo ay makipag-ugnayan sa ating mga kapatiran. We should have fellowship with believers. Kailangan lang tapat tayo sa paghanap sa kanyang Katotohanan at matuto tayo sa isa’t isa sa pamamgitan ng Salita ng Diyos.
Hebrews 10:25
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Artsee;
Pag pinoy cut,lantseta o nail cutter lang ang ginagamit at lapis.Pag German cut,bayoneta o kaya’y labaha at puno ng bayabas ang ginagamit.
Maaaring tama ka Cokecoy. Pero puwede din gamitin ang ngipin di ba basta matalas. May kilala kasi akong ngipin ng babae ang ginamit sa pagtuli.
Artsee;
Baka mapalo na naman tayo ni Madame kung sasagutin ko ang tanong mo,hindi pa tapos ang easter,Remember!
Ate Luz, kung hindi ako nagkakamali ay isang Born Again ka. Naging uso ang tawag na Born Again Christians. Ang nag-umpisa niyan mga Protestanteng ayaw matawag na Protestante ngayon at simpleng Christians na lang. Tapos, nakihalo ang grupong Katoliko at sila man daw ay Born Again. Kaya may tawag na Born Again Catholics. Mapang-akit ang Born Again o Charismatic groups. Kasi hindi ritual at masaya. Ang puna lang ng mga mainstream ay puro Praise the Lord na lang at Halleluja. Hindi daw sapat ang ganyang mga papuri kung kulang sa gawa. May punto din di ba? Basta daw tanggapin lang si Hesus at maniwala sa Kanya, ligtas na. Napakadali. Instant salvation, sabi nila. Pero kung susuriin mabuti, hindi iyan sapat. May kalakip na sakrispisyo ang kaligtasan. Dapat sundin ang lahat ng utos ng Diyos at hindi iyon pipili ka lang ng gusto mo o madali sa iyo. Iyan ang isang pagkakamali ng Born Again. Ako naman. Naging Kursilista ako. Parokya ko ang St. Peter Parish. Sa Kristong Hari ako sa QC at sa Cabuyao, Laguna ako nag-cursillo. Tatlong araw at gabi na brain washing. Walang relos at kung anu-ano. Marami akong ikukuwento pero alang-alang sa paggalang ko sa mga debotong Katoliko ay hindi na lang.
Artsee;
Alam mo siguro ang kantang “Decolores” iyan ang kanta ng mga cursillista.
TT,
Talagang pinabilib mo ako sa analogy mo. Iyong isang linggo sa pagitan ng Domingo de Ramos at Sabado de Gloria ay pitong taon, mula nang umupo iyong Salot. Matutupad na kaya ang prophesy ng pagkabuhay muli ng bansa? Abangan sa eleksyon. Quote ko ulit para sa blogs ko ang katha mo. Nakakaenganyo ka talaga na magpursigi para patalsikin na, now na! Salamat!
Siyempre, alam ko ang De Colores. Bago ako pumasok sa cursillo, tinakot pa akong may “dos por dos” na akala ko papaluin ako. Iyon pala pinadapa kami na pa krus. Pinalakad kami ng paluhod at tinitignan ng mga bantay kung umiiyak kami. Kung wala daw luha ay hindi nagsisisi. Hindi ko na idadagdag dahil mebyo sensitibo ang paksa.
Would like to share this with you guys:
CHURCH HELPS FILIPINOS FIND A NEW LEASE ON LIFE
See http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=7d218bccf63c1110VgnVCM100000176f620aRCRD&vgnextchannel=ae11627d59eec010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD
MANILA, Philippines – Galliano Corbito used to beg for money along the busy streets of downtown Manila. Propelling himself with his hands along the ground on a small wooden platform with wheels, he wove his way through throngs of people every day, hoping for a kind soul that would shell out a few pesos so he could buy himself a meal. That is, until he received a wheelchair from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Read the rest of the story in the link above.
We can do an act of charity for this weekend as a matter of fact.
Artsee,
Naging kursilista din ako dati. Ang pagiging “Born Again” ay hindi dapat “brand” lang. Malalim ang ibig pakahulugan ng Born Again. Pero ang pagiging “born again” ay pagpbabago sa ating sarili o renewal lalo na sa paniniwala.
Romans 12:1-2
Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Collosians 3:1-4
Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
Minsan yung iba ang akala ang born again ay mga Protestante, pero bakit sa Amerika, halos karamihan mga Protestante pero pag napakinggan mo ang mga testimony nila na “nakilala” nila si Kristo at binago ang buhay pananampalataya nila. Kaya mas mabuti magbasa tayo ng biblia. There is so much more to learn about God and the bible. It is about our salvation.
Ate Luz, gising na yata o bumalik na sa bakasyon si Ate Ellen. Binati niya ako! Yuhoo! Good boy muna ako para hindi uli tanggalin ang mga post ko.
“There are a lot of passages from the bible that testifies that Jesus Christ as the Son of God. In fact Jesus Christ himself said that He is:”
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Even if it were written in the New Testament, that is still precisely my point. The evangelists who wrote the New Testament text lived long after Jesus’s death, never met him in person, and wrote the text under the influence of “church” officials who were under strong pressure to prove that Jesus — the man — lived and died in accordance with the prophesies of the Old Testament.
It seems your argument is based upon the assumption that the texts in the New Testament are infallible. They are in fact proven to be inconsistent with historical evidence. At best they should not even be taken literally (as most fundamentalists like yourself do). These texts were interpretations of Jesus’s life written by people under the influence of what was then the early Christian church.
Written text does not constitute proof of a hypothesis if the authors of said text are themselves not verifiable as reliable sources of information.
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Tongue….
Ayan ka na naman…
You did it again! Galing ng Sabado-de-gloria post mo!
Tama ka: the DARKEST MOMENT ng lahat yun….
Sa Pinas, DARKEST MOMENT ng Pinoy….
I know…may PAG=ASA pag dating ng EASTER…
Kaya Vote tayo!
Let’s GO!
Nakakagulat din si Artsee….
Nakaka-bilib!
Mukhang lumabas ang tunay na artsee ah!
Cheers, Ahiya.
Salamat Siyoti. Pero nandito si nanay kaya good boy muna ako. Pinalo na nga ako.
Para sa akin,kahit na ano pang religion basta patungkol kay Kristo ay nananalampataya ako,kung iba man ang pananaw ni BenignO ay prerogative niya iyon,basta’t sa akin pag si Kristo ay aking tiga pagligtas.
In Da Vinci Code, the movie, there is a positive and a negative defection of Christ.
The positive things is that it says that for the first four centuries, Jesus was known only as a prophet of God and not God. The council of Nicea at around 325 Ce, Emperor Constantine and some bishop changed the true teaching of Jesus Christ.
Also in the movie, the say that Jesus Christ married one of his disciples, Mary Magdalene and bear some children and that Jesus descendant exist today.
Da Vinci Code was only a novel, a fiction written by Dan Brown, he fictionalized the life and story of Jesus, and in this sense,,he downgraded him. The follower of Christ considered the story of Jesus to be blasphemous . Maybe, Benigno based his comment on the movie of the Da Vinci Code.
I suggest you watch the movie Benigno, and tell us if it’s a real or fiction.
artsee:
Naniniwala pa rin ako sa History!
Papaano kaya kung nakapagbasa si Genghis Khan(Temüjin) ng bibliya?
Sigurado ako na iba ang kasaysayan ngayon ng China.
Babagsak ang Tsina kung mapapasok ito ng mga Jehovah’s Witness.
Ang mga Jehovah’s Witness kasi ay hindi naniniwala sa Malthusian concept(Theory) na ang pagdami o paglobo ng populasyon na siyang makakapagpabagsak ng lipunan.
Hindi rin sila naniniwala sa contraception o programa upang mapigilan ang paglaki ng populasyon.
Nelbar,
Huli ka sa balita. May theory nga dito sa Japan na pumunta iyong mga nawawalang tribo ni Israel dito, settling in one of the islands here.
Google the Internet and you’ll get a lot of articles, etc. on this. Mas maganda kung nakakabasa ka ng sulat hapon. In fact, maraming prinsipyo ng mga paniniwala ni Abraham ang hindi naiiba sa turo ng Shintoism, at tradition ng Japan. Kahawig pa nga ang design ng weave ng Israel. Remember the amazing technicolor coat of Joseph?
Kaya ito siguro ang dahilan kung bakit hindi nakahirit iyong mga ignoranteng pareng kastila na dumayo sa Japan bago ito isinara ng mga Daimyo ng Japan para hindi matulad ang Japan sa mga nasakop ng Espana, Olanda, Inglaterra at Pransiya. alam kasi ng mga Japanese traders who were doing barter with the Filipinos especially for those “banga” called “Luzon Tsubo” that were sought after here because they were good for keeping tea leave and water for the tea. Iyan ang isang kasaysayan ng Pilipinas na hindi gaanong batid ng mga pilipinong walang alam kundi humalik sa puwit ng mga kano!
May lugar sa Shikoku na balitang doon nagpunta ang nawawalang tribo ng Israel. Talk of the American Indians, too, whom we believe in our church descended from Joseph, one of the sons of Israel. In fact, I have been told that I am of his tribe, both from Ephraim and Manasseh because of my Japanese as well as my European roots.
Pero sa totoo lang hindi naman kailangan magkaroon pa ng blood or whatever ties kung kani-kanino para maging sibilasado at maunlad ang isang bansa at nasyon. Nasa mga tao na iyan kung gusto nilang umunlad. Ang problema nga lang ay ang daming magaling na akala mo tunay naman na sila lang ang matatalino at ang mga tao ay gusto nilang makikinig at susunod lang sa kanila. Ang daming ehemplo sa blog na ito na pasingit-singit para purihin iyong ‘Ayup na ayaw nang bumaba by hook or by crook!
Just wanted to share this… when religion is used to justify political chaos.
“There Are Too Many Saviours On My Cross”
A dramatic spoken reading written and performed by Richard
Harris on his album, “Slides” copyright 1971 by ABC Records.
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May lugar sa Shikoku na balitang doon nagpunta ang nawawalang tribo ng Israel. Talk of the American Indians, too, whom we believe in our church descended from Joseph, one of the sons of Israel. In fact, I have been told that I am of his tribe, both from Ephraim and Manasseh because of my Japanese as well as my European roots.
Sagot: Ano ba itong si ateng ito, ngayon naman galing daw siya ng tribe. May lahing Pinoy na, Hapon, British, Chinese at kung anu-ano pa. Tapos kabilang kung saan-saang sikat na pamilya. Iyan ang ayaw ko kay ate nakikipagpaligsahan sa akin sa kayabangan. Mang Nelbar, tungkol naman sa Jehova’s Witness na sinabi mong hindi naniniwala sa birth control, ganyan kasi ang mga cult para dumami ang kanilang grupo at lahi. Hindi lang naman sila, pati ang Mormom walang population control. Maliban sa rhytm o natural method, bawal din sa Simbahang Katoliko ang ibang birth control. Ang pinagbasehan ng mga iyan ay sa aklat na Genesis na nagtuturong “Increase and multiply”. Pero hindi itinuloy ang pagbasa ng talata. Kung itutuloy ang sitas, mababasa ang “subdue” na ang ibig sabihin ay pigilin. Kaya kung biblia at aral ng Diyos ang susundin, walang masama na pigilin ang pagdami ng tao basta bago maging buhay na bata sa sinapupunan ng ina. Dapat hindi pa “fetus”. Kapag may buhay na, kasalanan ang alisin dahil magiging abortion na parang pumatay na din. Kaya ano man paraan ang gamitin para hindi mabuo ang bata ay okay lang sa Diyos.
Luzviminda:
Here’s an example of the passages in the Bible where Christ specifically told His Disciple about who He really was, but that they would not tell others that He was in fact the Christ as prophesied of old: “When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this arock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.” (Matt.16:13-20)
Matthew made emphasis of this declaration likewise in narrating the crucifixion of Christ in Chapter 27, where in verse 43, he wrote, “He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.” How can these zealots lose track of these passages?
Mahirap talaga ang nagmamagaling, nahuhuling walang alam!
Ate Luz, turo din sa biblia na bawal ang pribadong interpretasyon. Puro paliwanag at dada ang nagmamagaling pero nasa kanya ba ang Ispiritu ng Diyos? Turo ba ng Diyos ang maging palalo, hamakin at insultuhin ang kapwa? Si Hesus ay anak ng isang mahirap na karpentero. Lumaki Siyang tulad ng karamihan na ordinaryo. Ikumpara mo Siya sa mga taong walang tigil na nagyayabang sa sarili. Na mataas daw ang pinag-aralan. Na maraming alam na lenguahe. Na galing daw sa aristoktratang pamilya at lahing matataas ng bansang tinitirhan niya ngayon. Na may halo siya ng iba’t ibang lahi. Na galing siya sa tribo ng kung anu-ano. Isa araw baka sabihin niyang isa siyang sugo ng Diyos. Ang atin lang Ate Luz, nag-uusap lang naman tayo. Ni minsan sa usapan natin ay hindi ko sinabing marami akong alam. Kaya nga ako nagtatanong sa iyo. Tapos sumingit itong isa na ang akala siya na ang pinakamagaling sa mundo. Hindi daw nagmumura dahil may fasting. Sus, anong klaseng pagbabalatkayo at pagkukunwari iyan. Kapag pumarito uli si Kristo, baka sampalin siya ng sampung beses.
Artsee:
Sa totoo lang pinabilib mo ako talaga,pero nasaan na iyong sulat na ipinoste mo,nabasa ng mga kaibigan ko dito sa lugar ko iyon at iyon ang topic namin kaninang umaga habang nagkakape sa may umpukan namin,good entertainment tapos biglang nawala.Si HNP kasi reklamo ng reklamo.Hinihintay ko nga ang palitan ninyo uli ni Luzviminda.Pareho kayong magaling.Uminom ka muna ng atenolol na 50 mg para hindi tumaas ang BP mo.Tapos iyong umasar sa iyo painumin mo ng serotin.
Artsee,
Totoong hindi turo ng Diyos ang manghamak at mang-api ng kapwa. Mahirap magpakabanal. Alam iyan ng Diyos, Kaya nga niya tayo ililigtas eh. At kaya nga niya pinadala ang kanyang Espirito Santo ay para matulungan tayo. Yung Espirito Santo hindi naman yan parang “na-posessed” ka para makagawa ng mabuti at tama. Alam mo pa rin ang ginagawa mo. Pinasimple na nga niya ang paraan para tayo maligtas. Yan ay ang tanggapin siyang Panginoon at Tagapagligtas. At pagkatapos ay sundin ang kanyang mga utos na pinasimple na lang niya sa dalawang(2) Utos:
Matthew 22:36-40
‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Mayroon din version ng testimony sina Mark (Chapter 12) at Luke (Chptr. 10) tungkol dito. Di ba kamangha-mangha na iba’t-ibang tao ang nakawitness ng pangyayari. Kung baga sa pagrereport ng isang pangyayari at iba’t-ibang ang reporter may kanya-kanyang silang kuwento pero pareho ang pinakamensahe. Ibig sabihin ay talagang nagyari.
At tsaka Artsee pakiramdam ko ay mabait ka naman, may gigil nga lang. Hi-hi-hi!
Luzviminda and Artsee;
I enjoyed both of your discussion, but, don’t you think, God sent Jesus to save us all from Satan. If Satan don’t prevail we are all not sinners. In fact, that Satan’s scheming is feeble and that he has no power over God. Satan is the only negative power against the commandment of God. Those who believe fight the way of God. Those who disbelieve fight in the way of Satan. Man’s greatest enemy is Satan. Satan pledge himself to lead people astray, and he has committed himself to this cause by devising schemes that make the world appear charming and alluring to mankind. God inform us through his prophet like Moses, the rest and in Jesus Christ that those who believe, and with sincere faith will not be affected by the tricks of Satan. God also revealed that Satan will have no power over those who believe and put their trust to the lord. Despite Satan’s inefficacy on the believers, he may sometimes attempt to bother us with his whispering because of the deeds we committee. Satan tries to inject feeling of sorrows, fear, and distress, to sow discord among us, to cause us feel doubts about God.
I am just asking your opinion, about this. I always despise Satan, no matter how alluring.
Alam mo Cokecoy, buhay na buhay si Taning. Alam niya na maikli na lang ang kanyang panahon at paparito na si Kristo. Kung bagay nag-aapura siyang agawin ng marami pa ang mga anak ng Diyos at isama sa kanyang kampon ng kadiliman. Kahit mismo dito sa blog na ito, may mga alagad ni Taning. Mag-ingat sa mga matatamis na dila. Mag-ingat sa mga nagbabanal-banalan. Mag-ingat sa mga gumagamit ng mga salita ng Diyos hindi upang iligtas ang tao kundi manlinlang. Mag-ingat sa nag-aanyong Kristo. Upang makilala kung sila’y mga bulaang propeta o Kristiyano, suriin ang kanilang ugali at pananalita. Mga mapagkunwari at mapagbalatkayo. Isang halimbawa ay sasabihin at ipagyayabang na titigil na daw sa pagmumura dahil nagpa-fasting daw.
Artsee;
Agree ako sa iyo,Kung si Taning ay nagtransform sa ahas,puede rin siyang maging babae.Kung susuriin ko ang mga sinulat mo,alam ko na kung sino.Matagal na iyang ganyan,gusto laging bida.
hoy, kayong dalawa, bakit ganyan ang tingin n’yo……… sa kanya?
huli man daw, ihahabol ko na rin.
Himala
ni Arnold Clavio
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http://www.abante.com.ph/issue/apr0507/main.htm
Patapos man ang Holy Week ay sana ay magkaroon tayo ng reflection sa ating buhay. Kung nagagawa nating makipag-blog sa ibat’-ibang website, siguro mas nararapat na MAG-BLOG TAYO SA “WEBSITE” NI LORD JESUS. Laging ONLINE Siya, 24/7 at 365/12 at maski pa Leap year, just HUMBLE OUR HEARTS. GOD LOVES US! He Has wonderful plans for us!
Jeremiah 29:11-13
‘For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.’
GOD IS NOT DEAD! HE IS ALIVE!!! HAPPY EASTER!!!
Mang Rivera, marami tayong mga kasamang babae dito kaya hindi mo alam ang tinutukoy namin ni Cokecoy. Kami na lang ang nakakaalam niyon. Pero sinisiguro namin sa iyo na hindi si Ate Ellen. Kahit na madalas niya kami paluin ay mahal pa rin namin siya. Si HNP lang ang may matinding tampo sa kanya ngayon. Nagpadala na ako ng mamahaling tsokolate sa kanya para tumahimik sa pag-iiyak. Ewan ko kung kinain na niya.
Salamat naman at nasakyan ninyo ang analogy ko. Hindi kailangang mapaloob sa Holy Spirit ang katauhan dahil madali lang intindihin, diba? Kahit espiritu lang ni San Miguel Arkanghel (beer o gin), San Juan Tagalakad (Johnny Walker), o ni San Pedro Domecq (brandy), langit na rin para sa iba.
Mahirap lang ang analogy sa Easter Sunday, western-style. Nung hinanap ko sa Google yung Easter Bunny, sa Playboy website ako natangay.
Di ko na itinuloy pa yung sa itlog baka kung saan pa mapadpad.
Mang Tongue, pareho pala tayo ng type na Bunny. Hawak ko din ang playboy ngayon habang kumakain ng tsokolate. Mamaya naman ay hahanapin ko ang ispiritu. Namamalat na ang lalamunan ko. Habang tulog pa o wala si Ate Ellen, laro muna ako dito. Kapag nandito kasi iyan ay palo at kurot ang aabutin ko.
ystakei Says:
April 5th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Tilamsik:
You said Christ must be an activist? He could be. He was even described by some as the first Socialist!
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Jesus Christ, the anti capitalist:
Mathew 19:23 – “Varily I say unto you that a rich man shall hardly enter to the kingdom of heaven”
Jesus Christ, the socialist:
Mathew 19:21 – “If thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou has and give to the poor and thou shall have treasure in heaven”
artsee, hindi ko alam kung sino? sus, sayang na lamang ang pagiging tiktik ko (dati) kung hindi ko malalaman kung sino ang tinutukoy mo. kilala ko, ayaw ko lamang din magbanggit kung sino.
artsee, halika, ibubulong ko sa ‘yo.
o, tama ako, di ba? ikaw lang ,eh.
Kaya alam mo kasi ibinulong sa iyo ni Cokecoy. Madali naman makilala ang taong tinutukoy ko. Basta iyon laging tama siya at mali ang iba. Kapag kumontra ka pikon siya. Ang masama pa’y babanggit ng mga talata sa biblia pero karamihan sa mga iyan eh galing sa ibang aklat na sila lang ang gumagamit.
First Gentleman undergoes surgery for 8 to 10 hrs and Schitzoglo has asked us to pray for him, really I don’t know about that. I do hope its serious, there’s more ways of skinning a cat!
Most aneurysms are small and slow growing and rarely rupture. Less commonly, aneurysms are larger and faster growing and are at higher risk of rupturing. Depending on the size and rate at which it is growing, treatment for aortic aneurysm may vary from watchful waiting to emergency surgery. Once an aortic aneurysm is identified, doctors will closely monitor it so that surgery can be planned if and when necessary. Emergency surgery for a ruptured aneurysm carries increased risk and less chance of survival.
Masama ang ipagdasal na kunin ng Diyos ang isang tao. Pero kung masamang tao siya ng kasing sama ng Mike na iyan, siguro puwede. Iyan lang kung minsan ang paraan para mawala o mabawasan ang mga kasamaan ginagawa niya habang nabubuhay pa. Kung mawala siya, Singson, Palparan at lalo na itong si tiyanak, baka magbago na ang Pilipinas. Bahala na ang Diyos sa kanila!
WWNL,
According to news reports, it was aortic aneurysm and emergency surgery has to be done. It’s a very high-risk procedure and considering it had to be done immediately, that makes it a very serious case. The aorta, as we know, is the biggest blood vessel and very near the heart.
Gloria has donated her own blood for transfusion, too. No need, she could’ve bought dinuguan and fed it to his veins and could’ve cost much less!
Tongue:
Approved na ang visa niya,seal na lang ang kulang para maging official,umpisahan mo ng magsulat ng Eulogy speech at si BenignO ang magbasa sa lectern.
TonGuE-tWisTeD:
I dislike this guy and his family so much I don’t want him to die – I want them to suffer what it’s like to have poor quality of health – just as many poor filipino do through no fault of their own. He’s made so many people and their family and friends suffer – libel – cheating – smuggling – corruption. What goes around comes around!
Sino naman ang embalsamador? Si Antonio?
artsee Says: “Kaya alam mo kasi ibinulong sa iyo ni Cokecoy. ”
he he he. buking ako.
TonGuE-tWisTeD:
I dislike this guy and his family so much I don’t want him to die – I want them to suffer what it’s like to have poor quality of health – just as many poor filipino do through no fault of their own. He’s made so many people and their family and friends suffer – libel – cheating – smuggling – corruption. What goes around comes around!
WWNL:
What more can I say? Amen to that. Let him live longer. Death will be more of a reward for somebody who caused so much trouble.
benignO,
That’s why it is called faith. Christians begin with a presupposition, that the Bible is the Word of God. The scientific method can never verify if the Bible is indeed the Word of God.
The Christian faith is a historical faith. In essence, the Apostle’s Creed represents the Christian faith. All the rest that we associate with Christianity are man-made and negligible.
Whoever departs from the Apostles’ Creed isnt a Christian.
Yes, Jesus did not write a book. And yes, we are relying, by faith, on the trustworthiness of the authors of the biblical books. The basic beliefs of Christianity today are the same beliefs the earliest Christians had. No deviations.
The Bible was codified for a reason. The Old Testament was codified so that the Israelites will maintain their distinctiveness as Yahweh’s chosen people and not depart from such appointment. The New Testament was formed to combat heretical teaching about Jesus.
kuhphal syyuco:
The fact is that dis-believers have poured scorn over the written Bible for centuries without success. I would give anything to be able to author such fine hagiographa.
Syyuco, siyuko ka ba? Parehong tono. Alam mo ba na comparable ang biblia at science? May mga nakasulat sa biblia at mga hula na nangyari maraming taon pagkaraan. Halimbawa ang digmaan, pagkabilog ng mundo at mga iba’t iba pang nakasulat na tugma sa bersyon ng science.
Artsee,
Actually, pwede nating sabihin na, the bible is proving science. Examples of Bible & Science:
The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space:
Job 26:7 – ‘He stretches out the north over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.’
The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere:
Ecclesiastes 1:6 – ‘The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit.’
The book of Leviticus (written prior to 1400 BC) describes the value of blood:
Leviticus 17:11 – ‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
The bible includes reasonably complete descriptions of the hydrologic cycle.(Evaporation process):
Psalm 135:7 – ‘He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth; He makes lightning for the rain; He brings the wind out of His treasuries.’
Jeremiah 10:13 – ‘When He utters His voice, There is a multitude of waters in the heavens: “And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, He brings the wind out of His treasuries.”
Yes, comparable ang bible and science. Pero ‘scientific’ people tend to make a dividing line between science and faith, as if having faith is inconsistent with being scientific.