Satur Ocampo, Bayan Muna partylist representative, by showing up more than a week after an arrest warrant for him was issued and submitting himself to the jurisdiction of the court, has shown the Filipino people and the world his respect for the rule of law.
He showed that he is a better person than his accusers, especially AFP chief Hermogenes Esperon.
Ocampo exposed a skill by Esperon known to the public only now: grave-digging. The AFP chief can surely can put it to good use when Gloria Arroyo is ousted from her stolen power and he goes down with her.
Speaking to reporters at the Supreme Court, where he filed for certiorari, or special relief from the order of a regional trial court for his arrest in connection with alleged multiple murders 22 years ago, Ocampo said, “I accuse Gen. Hermogenes Esperon na naglilipat siya ng buto. Hindi yun genuine na sinabi niyang mass grave.”
It’s a case of recycled skeletons, he said.
For the military hierarchy to resort to skeleton recycling just to immobilize the leader of a cause-oriented group that opposes Gloria Arroyo’s tyrannical policies shows the depth of their depravity.
Ocampo’s arrest is a propaganda coup against Arroyo happening the day after the US took her to task for failing to stop the alarming rate of extra-judicial killings in the country believed to be perpetrated by the military.
“As the ultimate authority in the chain of command, she has to take steps to solve any involvement by members of the security forces,” said Eric John, US deputy assistant secretary of state for East Asia, in the hearing of the US Senate foreign relations subcommittee chaired by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D., Cal.).
Boxer pursued the idea of tying US military aid to the improvement of human rights in the country. “It’s really important that we do not have blood on our hands in this country,” she said.
Adolfo Pagcalinawan, a Filipino-American who was in the Thursday hearing wrote, “The consensus on the floor (was) the person posing as president in the Philippines is not a lady but a butcher, who has done nothing beyond rhetorics in addressing a very serious international problem.”
The US Senate hearing indicates a changing thinking in Washington as a result of 2006 midterm election that gave the Democrats control of Congress. The reign of Bush’s neo-cons, to which Arroyo panders shamelessly, is ending.
Pleasantly surprised by what happened in the US Senate, many are curious how cause-oriented groups succeeded in getting the ear of Boxer. An article by Rodney Jaleco, of ABS-CBN North American News Bureau, revealed that it was the intense lobbying of US church groups, principally the National Council of Church of Christ (NCCCUSA) that paved the way for a Senate panel to look into extra-judicial killings in the Philippines.
Jaleco said, “At the helm of the NCCCUSA is a former six-term congressman, Bob Edgar, 54 – who has the distinction of being the first Democrat to break the Republican Party’s 120-year hold in the 7th district of Pennsylvania. Dr. Edgar is an ordained elder of the United Methodist Church.”
“The NCCCUSA, established in 1950, is a multi-denominational faith-based umbrella organization that emphasizes unity in diversity, and helping the poor help themselves. Under Dr. Edgar’s leadership, the NCCCUSA focused more closely on addressing poverty and environmental protection issues. They have sometimes been referred to as part of the “religious left”.
“Because of the NCCUSA’s bias towards network and community building, it is in close contact with “communions” all over the world. When church groups in the Philippines – particularly the United Church of Christ in the Philippines (UCCP) and National Council of Churches in the Philippines (NCCP) – raised the problem of extra-judicial killings, the message struck a raw nerve because many of the victims were churchmen.
“Bishop Solito Toquero, a Methodist like Dr. Edgar, was specially alarmed by the killings. A total of 25 churchmen and church-based community workers have been killed in the past six years. The most prominent of them was Alberto Ramento, Supreme Bishop of the Philippine Independent Church (“Aglipayan”), stabbed dead inside his own rectory in Tarlac last year. That may have been the last straw for churchmen in the Philippines, who sent urgent appeals for help from friends abroad, including the NCCCUSA.”
Jaleco said Boxer takes great pride in her affinity with Filipinos. She points to the over one million Fil-Americans in her district (who helped her get one of the biggest winning margins for her third term during the 2004 elections). She says she was in Manila in 1986 during the EDSA I People Power revolt that toppled then-dictator Ferdinand Marcos.
The Senate hearing was especially timed to coincide with an international ecumenical conference held in Crystal City, Washington DC. Philippine churchmen were invited to speak at the conference that provided them the opportunity to reach a wider church audience.
Esperon is an expert at grave digging?? Why, that is the only job where you start at the top. Esperon is tired of his job of catching shit from his boss, being at the bottom, so now he wants to start at the top – grave digging.
Satur is truly a man of courage and resolve. He subordinated himself to a judicial process however malicious the charge is. Garci Esperon on the other hand, run around the law and even acted he is the law.
Esperon was never known to possess physical and moral courage. Even when he’s still a young officer, he was known as a shabby, egoistic and unreasonably insecure person.
By the way, ‘grave digging’ is one of esperon’s dirty schemes. When he was a battalion and brigade commander, he would asked his officers to buy loose firearms. He would then gather some reporters, and present to them those ‘recovered items’ as a result of a ‘successful combat operations.’
Esperon’s trademark and legacy in the AFP is LCS. Lying, cheating and stealing.
Even ordinary soldiers have no respect for him. Everytime Esperon speaks in an engagement, you will notice soldiers around sporting a dirty finger.
Here’s a favorite quote among officers in GHQ and Phil Army:
”When the emperor passes by, a good servant bows and farts silently”
Off topic.
Ellen, mention ka dito ni Herman Laurel.
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In Metro Manila, Trillanes already matches Honasan with 19 percent each. Malaya’s Ellen Tordesillas is correct that Trillanes will be in the Magic 12 soon — but let’s make a massive effort in the provinces and Mindanao to be sure. We need true patriots to represent us in the Senate. I now confidently see Trillanes making it in by taking over the sham Joker Arroyo’s place in the surveys — that’s why we must keep reminding the public of Arroyo’s PCSO funds-for-campaign anomaly and his non-performance in the blue ribbon committee, and stop the “trending” by survey manipulators.
http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/20070319com4.html
Assperon want to emulate Pontious Pilate who washed his hands and pointing the blame of the extra-judicial killings to the master like Satur Ocampo, but Satur is much smarter than him.Besides, the case being relived is 22 years old. what about the statute of limitation on this case?
Satur did not become a fugitive on that period and he never became wanted. We know that Satur became the founding member of militant student youth KM –Kabataang Makabayan in 1964.He was also a revolutionary who founded the NDF-National Democratic Front in 1973,in 1976 he was arrested and incarcerated, he was tried for military rebellion but, was not found guilty, and he escaped in custody in 1985.In 1986 Cory want to have a peace talk with him and his group but, that talks collapse due to the killing of 18 farmers at a rally near the presidential palace on Jan.22,1987.Does those killing attributed to him? I don’t think so! He was arrested in 1989 and he was freed in 1992 without being found guilty of any crime. Now, What criminal activities or any criminals wrongdoing that he is arrested for again? It is a double whammy, a double jeopardy, no person will be charged twice for the same crime, it was not yet written in any jargon law book in the world. So, what is Assperon trying to prove against Satur?
Spy: So katulad din pala ni Esperon ang kanyang among si Gloria. Pareho sila ng trademark e.i. LYING, CHEATING & STEALING. Well, birds of the same feather flock together.
The quote says: ”When the emperor passes by, a good servant bows and farts silently” Kaso ang kanilang “silent fart” ay naamoy ni Assperon. Hayun tuloy kulong ang mga iba kahit walang kasalanan. I am hoping one day that there will come a brave soldier who will pull the trigger to these undignified men of uniform including their commander-in-chief.
Jandelou:
Marumi kasing maglaro ang team ni Punggok,Natatalo na sila sa larong basketbol,hindi sila makadribol,hindi sila maka shot,hindi sila maka 3points wala silang foul shot,hindi sila maka rebound dahil lahat sila ay katulad ng coach nila na puro punggok kaya’t gusto nilang balyahin ang star player na tulad ni Satur.
RE: AFP chief General Esperon as a grave-digger of human remains
Is General Esperon an archeologist or archaeology enthusiast? Grave-digging can be an alternative source of income after his retirement. Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo is confident that the Philippine Supreme Court will junk murder charges against him based on manufactured evidence and facts. This is a test case for Chief Justice Reynato Puno. He should maintain its independence and integrity. Chief Justice Puno should not fall on trap by Malacanang’s wicked games. Let’s hope the rule of law will prevail in all political persecution cases spearheaded by abusive and corrupt Gloria Arroyo regime. Malacanang Palace propagandists can no longer fool the Democratic-controlled US Congress.
Assperon is no doubt an expert in “recycling skeleton”. Naghuhukay lang iyan ng mga libingan at iipunin ang mga buto, ayos na! Kasalanan ni Satur Ocampo!
Sa maraming taon ng pagkabilanggo ni Ocampo ay ano pa ikakatakot niya sa mga hindi tao-hindi hayop na gaya ni Assperon. Heto nga at siya ang kinatatakutan ng parehang Tianak at Assperon.
Ang hinihintay ko talaga ay kung merong sasabihin si Fidel tungkol sa mga pangyayaring ito, lalo na ang tungkol sa balak ni Tianak na revival of Anti-Subversion Law. FVR’s sound of silence is nakakatulig!
What the heck are these bobo dela yucas transferring Ocampo to Leyte for? Everybody, even Japanese NGOs who have done research on these extrajudicial killings, knows that it would be easier for the AFP to make excuses when Ocampo gets murdered there like his friends in and out of the CPP critical of the bad system and the crooks running the country like hell.
There is definitely a reign of terror in the provinces especially in Bohol, Samar, Leyte, Nueva Ecija, Bulacan, etc. where the landgrabbers, who have police and military connections, are dominant.
If Ocampo gets killed in Leyte, we know definitely that it is on order of the Malacanang squatters and their generals!!!
Kawawang Pilipinas! Namayani na ang mga makakapal ang mukha, ganid, sakim at mga mamamataytao!!!
Mabuhay ang taong magigiting tulad ni Mr. Satur Ocampo at bitayin(hindi lang siguro bitay)ang pamunuan ni Gloria, Esperon etc. Hoy, Esperon mahiya ka naman sa mga pinaggagagawa mo (SIPSIP!!!)wag di lang magkaroon ka ng accomplishment kay punggok pati si Mr. Ocampo idadamay nyo sa kabulukan ng gobyerno nyo.
Chi:
Balita ko under threat din si Fidel. Marami kasi siyang kabalbalang ginawa kaya hindi makaimik. Binabantayan na pihado ang mga nanakaw din niya. Mahirap na baka mawala pa! Ganoon katindi!
Tongue T:
Anong balita doon sa mga “kohai” natin from UP na kinidnap last year? Hindi na ba nakita? Hindi ba buntis iyong isa? Baka hinalay pa sila. Kawawa naman! Sana mangyari din ang ganiyan doon sa mga anak ni Tiyanak para malaman niya ang hinagpis ng mga magulang ng mga UP students na iyong at iba pang biktima ng kanilang mga karahasan at kawalanghiyaan. Nakakakulo talaga ng dugo!
May katapusan ang lahat ng kasalbahihan sa totoo lang. Mukhang malapit na ring matapos ang mga kawalanghiyaan at garapalang ginagawa ng bogus na presidenteng ito. Kung magsalita pa bakyang-bakya. Nakakainis pakinggan. Kaya kapag nanonood ako ng balita, kapag nakita ko na ang pangalan ng ungas bago ipakita ang litrato niya, inililipat ko na ang programa. Bangas na bangas kasi ako sa kaplastikan ng taong iyan. Yuck! Kakasuka talaga!
Cocoy: Anong walang foul ang laro ni Gloria. Puro nga foul eh! Marunong pang bumalya. Mga ka-team mate niya marumi kung maglaro. Pero bilib ka rin sa kakapalan ng apog ni Gloria, kababaeng tao eh ang kapal ng apog. Bistado na sa Garci Tape pero talaga naman kapit tuko sa posisyon. Ibang klase talaga.
Buddy-buddy niya si Satur noong panahon ng impeachment ni Estrada, kakodakan pa nga, all smile pa.
Jadenlou:
Sori! ha,ang ibig ko palang sabihin ay wala silang free trow na foul shot,kaya hidi sila maka score ng points.O ayan malinaw na ha!Thank you ha,at inereset mo iyong time.Ganyan ang kabutihan kung di lang iisa ang referee nakokorek kaagad ang di nakita ng ibang referee at may instant replay pa.Pero kahit sa anong suma talo pa rin sila,di ba?
Hanep din naman ano! Now the headline news “Government seeks UN probe of NPA mass killings”. The government will ask the United Nations to investigate mass killings allegedly staged by the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) and the New People’s Army (NPA) following reports of mass graves discovered in different parts of the country, Malacañang officials said Sunday.
Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita and National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales issued the statements in separate interviews after the Arroyo administration came under fire from the United States Senate, which began last week an inquiry into the killings of hundreds of leftist political activists and journalists since 2001.
Ilan na kayang sementeryo ang napuntahan nila para hukayin ang mga patay. Hoy! sana multuhin kayo. Pero teka….meron pa kayang maniniwala sa Arroyo government? Hindi naman tanga ang mga ibang nasyon. Alam na nila ang kasinungalingan ni Gloria. How many countries have embassies in Manila? Of course lahat yan, may mga alam.
Palagay ko papapel yang si Davide. Ipagtatanggol yan si Gloria.
Jadenlou and Artsee:
Kung minsan may tumama pala sa mga sinasabi ni Benigno,dahil sa labing-isang binitawan niyang salita ay may isang tumama.Kaya pala nasabi niya noon na ang mga hita ng Pilipina ay maiksi at maitim,si Luli pala ang tinutukoy niya.
Cocoy: Hayan ha, gusto nilang magfree throw sa kanilang foul. Tumatawag na ng referee(UN) para sila ay makapagshoot. Pero palagay ko yan, mintis. Lalo na pag si Gonzales ang hahawak ng bola.
Jadenlou:
Pag si Boxer ang referee,kahit minsan wala silang free throw.Ano ang palagay nila,sila si Jaworski at Adornado na nambubugbog ng referee.
Puwersadong binitbit parang baboy si Rep. Satur Ocampo sa MPD prison cell at dinala sa Manila airport patungong Leyte. Parang baboy na ilako sa palengke ang trato kay Ka Satur. May araw din kayo Gloria Arroyo at iyong mga alipores.
sa tingin ko, si esperon ay katulad ni general ver noon.
at martial law na ngayon ang umiiral sa pilipinas….
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“Ms. Arroyo is not in control of the military,” wrote the political analyst Amando Doronila, in an article published in the Philippine Daily Inquirer. “If there’s a force that can stage a coup, it is not Ms. Arroyo.”
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The Arroyo administration has become increasingly dependent on the generals for its political survival. As a result, no other president except Marcos has rewarded them with so many positions in the civilian government.
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Twenty-one generals are in Arroyo’s cabinet and in the civil service, according to the Center for People Empowerment and Governance, a research and advocacy institute.
“Is a de facto military-civilian junta now lording over the country? This appears to be the case with the increasing number of military and police oligarchs occupying key posts in President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s cabinet and the civil service hierarchy,” said Bobby Tuazon, an analyst at the center.
I just got this text:
Sen. Arroyo: Let’s not condemn entire AFP
‘Only a few in military responsible for killings’
What got into this Senator Arroyo for another asinine statement. It’s not a matter of one member of Military or many who are responsible for the killings, they are the members of AFP. And the ineptitude of the authorities to resolve a single one of the cases means that they are tolerated. And here we have a lawmaker apologizing for the Military Establishment who is as an institution is responsible for an action of any of its single member, never mind that some of the suspected and alleged “brains” behind these killings are the Senior Officers of the AFP.
Come on Sen. Arroyo, better words are expected from you, not the usual tra-la-la the same as all the others already corrupted leaders of both the civil and military institutions…
Kung ikaw ba naman ay kakandidato na walang gastos, libre lahat, siyempre kakanta ka ng gusto ipakanta sa ‘yo ng iyong financier.
Ka Diego:
Masamang pangitain ito sa kalagayan ni Satur,ano sa palagay mo?
Iisa lang sagot niyan kung bakit dadalhin sa Leyte si Satur. If they let him stay in Manila, he might be the rallying point and the arroyo government doesn’t want that to happen.
Parang batas militar. Brutal at wala silang respeto kay Ka Satur bilang diputado ng Kongreso.Ito ang patunay sa patuloy na potikal persekusion ang rehimeng Arroyo.
Ma’m Ellen
Nakikinig po ako sa radio RMN from Manila at ayon sa ibinabalita ng isang reporter kay Anchorman Melo del Prado, kinaladkad si Satur Ocampo dahil ayaw niyang sumama. Hinawakan sa dalawang paa at pwersahang isinakay patungo sa airport kung saan siya dadalhin sa Leyte. Ininterbyi rin si Atty, Capulong at laking gulat niya dahil wala raw sa usapan yon dahil sa Friday, haharap sa Satur Ocampo sa oral argument sa Supreme Court. Gagastos pa ang gobyerno sa pagbabalik kay Satur sa darating na Friday.
Siguro’y sasabihin na naman ng Malacanang, kaya madaling araw inialis si Satur baka kasi abutan ng heavy traffic.
Let me Quote the good thought of Cory dated oct.1,1985
“For the sake of our country,we have to hope that a passage is possible.I am confident that a peaceful political solution still is possible.I based my confidence principally on four factors:First,the capacity of opposition party to unite; second,the electoral militancy of the awakened Filipino;Third,The moral leadership of the church;Fourth,the reform movement of the military”
Can these thought be forgotten? every concern Filipino has only the answer for her calling.It is now or never!
It’s really a degrading incident. Just imagine a cowboy wrangling a cow for public auction. Dapat bang bitbitin ang dalawang paa at kamay at isakay sa van?
Kung may litrato or video nitong pagkuha o pagdampot kay Ka Satur ay dapat ipakita para malaman ng lahat ng Pilipino at ng buong mundo ang klase ng mga makahayop na style ng Pidal govt.
Santong mahabagin!! 22 years ago na pala, bakit ngayon lang inilabas iyang mass grave na yan. Dapat patunayan muna ng militar kung sino sino ang mga bangkay, dahil may DNA na ngayon. Malamang fake lang ang mass grave na yan.
“Hanep din naman ano! Now the headline news “Government seeks UN probe of NPA mass killings”. The government will ask the United Nations to investigate mass killings allegedly staged by the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) and the New People’s Army (NPA) following reports of mass graves discovered in different parts of the country, Malacañang officials said Sunday.”
Jadenlou,
Nakakatawa nga eh, biro mo yung gobyerno ang humihingi ng tulong sa UN para mag-imbestiga, eh sila ang naka-upo at nasa kapangyarihan na mag-imbestiga. HIndi katulad ng mga civilian groups na humihingi ng tulong sa US Congress at European Union na walang kapangyarihan. Ibig sabihin ay mga BOPOLS! At HINDI NILA KAYA NA LUTASIN ANG PROBLEMA NG BANSAI Mga nasa Defense Department pa naman sila. Aba dapat ay magsi-pagresign na sila dahil sayang lang ang pasuweldo sa kanila, mga pasarap sa buhay gamit ang pera ng Bayan!
AT tungkol naman kay Esperon, ang laki ng takot nitong si Esperon sa mga makakaliwa dahil ang mga aktibistang grupo ang talagang palaban at walang humpay sa paglaban sa katiwalian ng administrasyon nila Gloria, “Partners in Crime” kumbaga. At pag-naalis si Gloria Engkantada ay tapos na rin ang maliligayang araw niya at mga kakutsaba nila. At kaya gusto rin nilang malayo sa Manila si Satur ay para malayo sa Malakanyang. Dahil baka lumaki ang mga rally na gagawin ng mga militanteng grupo. Alam kasi nila na ang mga militanteng grupong ito ang mga palaban, handang ibuwis ang mga buhay para sa kanilang mga ipinaglalaban lalo na kung para sa mga naapi. Kaya sa oras na kailangan nila tayong “silent warriors” ay dapat na damayan din natin sila. Tutal pareho din naman ang mga ipinaglalaban natin.
MAKIBAKA, HUWAG MATAKOT! LABANAN ANG KURAKOT! LUPIGIN ANG MGA GANID AT MAPANG-API!
Pinwersa ng PNP na dalhin sa domestic airport si Ka Satur at dadalhin by chopper sa Hilongos, Leyte”.
Once again in the still of the night under the cover of darkness whilst the citizens are asleep, they make their move.
From her own experience of how Erap was forced out she knows the power the citizen can have. Its the actions of a wicked woman scared of her own people, the Filipino!
Enough is Enough…. Surely!
They are now ready for they’re next move… declaring Martial Law
Ako ay nagtanong tanong sa mga marurunong kung bakit pilit na dinala si Satur sa Hilongos,Leyte.The Regional Trial Court ay .may ipinalabas palang arrest warrant kay Ocampo,Sison,Jalandoni at about 50 other leaders of CPP,NPA,NDF.They are being charged with rebellion and a warrant arrest for mass murder.Ayon sa former kumander ng NPA na nakabase sa Souther Leyte na sina Zacarias Piedad at Leonardo Tanaid ayon sa salaysay ng dalawa ay personal nilang nakita ang signed order ni Joma,Satur Ocampo at Luis Jalandoni na likidahin at iligpit ang mga government spies and infiltrator na nilitis at hinatulan ng kanilang Kangaroo Court pagtatagain at pagsasaksakin hangang mamatay at ilibing sa tinatawag nilang “The Garden”Kaya tama si Kitamokitako na kailangan dumaan sa DNA ang mga nahukay na mga bangkay na iyan at ng makilala at malaman kung talagang may kaugnayan sa kasong kinakaharap nila.
Maliban doon ay may tulog pa rin sina Satur,Joma at Jalandoni,kung na-alala ninyo ang kaso ni Colonel James NicholasRowe na isang U.S.Army iniuugnay din sa kanila ang kaso.
Well, regardless of what Satur was arrested for, whether they were “trumped up” or “recycled skeletons”, the task at hand is for us to work with the system to allow the TRUTH to emerge.
Satur has a lot of resources at his disposal, and presumably will be able to get good legal counsel and representation. If he is truly innocent and is SINCERE about “submitting himself to the jurisdiction of the court” and respecting the “rule of law”, then we as citizens should ensure that the outcome of this whole thing is the emergence of the TRUTH.
If this guy really did murder thousands of people then let’s hope this TRUTH comes out. If this guy is indeed a victim, then let’s see if it is TRUE.
In any case, Satur has a proven association with a group that has been known for its murderous activities in the last several decades.
Let’s keep this in mind and keep this in perspective.
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In any case, Satur has a proven association with a group that has been known for its murderous activities in the last several decades.
Well well, can we have your opinion of this Fake president and her conversation on the Garcie tapes. Do you feel that she should tell us the TRUTH about this?
Satur and comrades are getting far, far better treatment than they gave the acknowledged victims of their paranoid purges. They are being charged in a Court of Law and have every opportunity to defend themselves whilst the burden of proof of their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt still rests with the authorities. Isn’t this what folks around here have been screaming about and demanding with respect to alleged extrajudicial killings?
Now here is Text from Alan Paguia:
Warrant vs Satur was issued by Leyte Regional Trial Court either (a) with jurisdiction; or (b) without jurisdiction. If (a) then Satur’s petition for certiorari before Supreme Court will be dismissed. If (b), the proper remedy would be a motion to quash the information before the Regional Trial Court, not certiorari before the Supreme Court. Also if (b), surrender is not proper because RTC acted without jurisdiction,. Temporary Restraining Order would be proper to restrain arrest. When Satur got himself arrested, his petition for TRo became moot and academic. There is nothing more to restrain. Therefore Satur’s counsels erred when they exposed him to arrest before obtaining a TRO.
This is a game for lawyers, thats why our rule of law and judiciary are in such a mess.
WWNL,
Your argument is pure “non sequitur”. GMA wasn’t even in government yet when all this allegedly happened. Does anyone even deny that mass murders were carried out by the cpp leadership? Not even they deny it because they conducted an internal “rectification campaign” after they realized they had devoured their own children out of sheer paranoia. Yet not one person has been brought to the Bar of Justice for thousands of massacres and murders. Justice for all, or none at all can be given. We must uphold the law once and for all, or the cycle of violence will continue forever.
I’m sure even Philip Alston will agree. BTW, his final report is not yet written. Better wait for that before we put words in his mouth, which has become a major industry among the usual pundits and bloggers.
For the benefit of you bloggers abroad, ANC News just reported that Sarur is still at the Domestic Airport refusing to leave without the okey of the SC. Reporters are also asking “where is the Congress Leadership”?
WWNL–“A game for lawyers”? Well better them than the Lynch Mobs and Kangaroo Courts, don’t you think?
“Satur and comrades are getting far, far better treatment than they gave the acknowledged victims of their paranoid purges. They are being charged in a Court of Law and have every opportunity to defend themselves whilst the burden of proof of their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt still rests with the authorities. Isn’t this what folks around here have been screaming about and demanding with respect to alleged extrajudicial killings?”
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Exactly.
You will see from the reactions of some of the bloggers here that there is a quite a shortage of proper perspective in regarding these events. You get a guy who has now subjected himself the the Law and then the public’s attention gets turned on whether the courts are fair, or whatever “motives” the Arroyo administration has for suddenly bringing up these charges again.
Well, folks, whatever the motives may be and whatever the fairness of our justice system steps up to, the fact is an opportunity has presented itself to get at the TRUTH.
If some people here have so imprisoned their minds in the here and now of today’s hollow-headed politics to see this opportunity, then that is a small tragedy in itself.
The fact is, a 50-year guerilla warfare and the thousands of lives lost as a result of it far transcends and outweighs the petty politics of today. Satur merely brought this upon himself. Like anything unresolved in one’s life, old skeletons will always come back to bite. And it is usually our enemies who will dig the deepest into our closets.
Sorry na lang si Satur. He’s got the small end of the stick at the moment.
Pana-panahon lang yan.
He’s had enough opportunity to be on the right side of an AK-47.
He has a lot to account for (or at least clarify), and being a law abiding citizen (or pretending to be one) over the last few years will certainly not make up for decades of illegal and heinous activity.
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WWnl:
I think Satur lawyer need to get a TRO from the Supreme Court to Quash the arrest warrant of the Leyte Regional court kung ayaw niyang pumunta doon.Maliban doon Ave Maria Purisima na lang ang pag-asa niya.Kasi pag nandoon na siya ay di na siya makakalaya pa kasi ang pagkakaalam ko na kasong kinakaharap niya ay non-bailable.Tama ba ako Benigno at GSDC?
“WWNL–”A game for lawyers”? Well better them than the Lynch Mobs and Kangaroo Courts, don’t you think?”
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Indeed. The year 2005 was the height of our society’s exhibiting the full extent of its pathetic primitivism. We are still at heart a lynch mob society.
We’d readily entrust our future on a street mob than invest effort in building robust institutions. Satur personally embodied the belief that Anarchy is better than even a democratic farce. To him bloodshed will always be justified as a means to reach their socialist utopia.
Satur’s showbiz tactic to appeal to our society’s sad victim mentality is no better than the Boy Abunda showbiz tactics of the other trapos.
If you think about it, he comes from the same generation that produced the likes of Enrile, Laurel, Misuari, and all the other famous turncoats.
It takes just a little thinking to see beyond the quaint mind games that they play on the general public.
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It’s just a bit sad to see that these games are actually working.
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GSDC:
“We must uphold the law once and for all, or the cycle of violence will continue forever.”
Who are the WE, the common people? I don’t want to bore you when I’m sure you also know of the long list of occasions when this Administration have ignored the Rule of Law. The citizens expect them to lead by example!
“Parang batas militar. Brutal at wala silang respeto kay Ka Satur bilang diputado ng Kongreso.Ito ang patunay sa patuloy na potikal persekusion ang rehimeng Arroyo.”
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Really now?
Did he exercise a similar respect for the rights of the people that his henchmen have brutalised and collected “revolutionary taxes” from for the last several decades?
Of course, this bozo is innocent until proven guilty. So let’s stay focus on the matter at hand — getting at the TRUTH about this hypocrite’s life. Lest we forget, he is a politician too. All of them play games on us. That’s why all this hollow-headed partisan rhetoric and sloganeering is not only pointless, it is PATHETIC.
Whatever is being said here can be traced back to one or another politicians’ strategy and PR efforts. By parroting tired old political slogans we merely demonstrate how apt we are at dancing to old political tunes.
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True to form benignO, you never answered my question about the TRUTH – GMA & GARCIE tapes.
You really need to update your quotes ready to cut and paste!
WWNL,
“A government of the people, for the people, by the people.”
Charging alleged criminals in court IS leading by example. Assassinating them is not. Choose, people!
“Puwersadong binitbit parang baboy si Rep. Satur Ocampo sa MPD prison cell at dinala sa Manila airport patungong Leyte. Parang baboy na ilako sa palengke ang trato kay Ka Satur. May araw din kayo Gloria Arroyo at iyong mga alipores”
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The same can be said for Satur.
Ngayon na nga ang araw niya.
Pana-panahon lang yan.
For all we know, Satur may be sitting in Malacanang someday and his old cadres goose-stepping down Mendiola to the tune of old revolutionary hymns with fire engines hosing down pro-democracy rallyists.
Pana-panahon lang yan.
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For Satur, all of this are just the activities of reactionary elements that in his deluded mind will be on the business end of his AK-47 someday.
A guy can wish, can’t he?
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For Satur,I do not have any compassion for him for he has no remorse from his past wrongdoings. I know a lot of people in the barrio who was been liquidated by his henchmen, I Will be honest with you, My kumpare the eldest brother of General Hermogenes Ebdane, his name is Basilio Ebdane a good, honest and dedicated cop in Candelaria, Zambales,he was been feared by any criminal activities in that town, he was an NPA chaser but, because they could not collect revolutionary tax in that town ,they executed him in his house in front of his wife and young children. They lost the breadwinner in the family, their life had turned upside down. Another good cop in Masinloc,Lt.Alop and a number more of good cops in Zambales,I knew all those cops that perished in their hands because they were all my good friends. They were been eliminated because they don’t condone their illegal collection activities. Now,is there anybody can tell me, which is fair for Satur?
Pasensya na po hindi po ako makakasama sa Club Pilipino kasi nasa ibang bansa po ako ganon pa man kaisa nyo po ako sa lahat ng inyong magandang layunin. Panahon na po para naman bigyang halaga natin ang ating mga karapatan—ito na sana ang hudyat ng isa pang pagkakaisa para mapatalsik na ang punggok sa malakanyang—hindi na sya kailangan ng taong bayan, para ano pa. For Sen. joker—–GO TO HELL AND PICK UP UR MONEYYYYY—–kala namin matino ka matanda ka na magsalita ka naman ng kapakipakinabang sa sambayanan. MABUHAY PO KAYO REP. SATUR OCAMPO AT INGAT NA LAMANG PO KAYO.
Satur is no better than Jalosjos and all the other politicians out there who have unresolved crimes that are thick-faced enough to seek/occupy public office.
It is the height of hypocrisy to condemn Arroyo for his arrest because Arroyo is no better than Satur and Satur is no better than Arroyo. If people say Arroyo does not deserve her post in government, then the same principles behind such assertions apply to Satur. He is a crime suspect just like Arroyo, Jalosjos, Trillanes, Tito Sotto (remember his case with Pepsi Paloma?), et al. And yet they have the audacity to seek/occupy public office even as society at large tolerate their existence.
All criminal suspects. And we are a society that coddles criminals on one hand and condemns them on the other. A society that utterly lacks perspective, consistency, and substance is what we are.
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Strange isn’t it that when a cop is ‘perished’ he becomes known as a ‘good cop’. Does that mean that all the cops still walking our streets and barrio’s at the moment are ‘bad cops’.
For me a good cop is someone who does his duties well.
A bad cop is like Haemorrhoid Ebdane who’s said to be mentioned on the Garcie tapes and corrupt.
Strange too isn’t it, that a murderous thug suddenly becomes a hero when he is arrested by an unpopular president.
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Para yan si Rudy Distrito at si Jaworski e. Magugulang mag-laro. Pero kina-hahangaan just the same.
Typically Pinoy.
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benignO” said
“same principles behind such assertions apply to Satur. He is a crime suspect just like Arroyo”
benignO, this evil woman is powerful and has money, thats why they are trampling all over Satur Ocampo and the Rule of Law. Where is the same principles in equality… your joking Heh!
“benignO, this evil woman is powerful and has money, thats why they are trampling all over Satur Ocampo and the Rule of Law. Where is the same principles in equality… your joking Heh!”
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And by virtue of Satur being a “victim” today absolves him of all accountability for all crimes he had allegedly committed?
As I said, this appeal to victim mentality is a potent tool indeed. It works really well on the ignorant and weak-minded.
Parang Jedi Mind Trick kung baga.
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benignO now I realise your a ‘joker’ I shouldn’t take your opinions & comments seriously. Your quite harmless really, boring but harmless.
“benignO now I realise your a ‘joker’ I shouldn’t take your opinions & comments seriously. Your quite harmless really, boring but harmless”
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Fair enough.
Although it takes a bit of thinking to see beyond the veneer of humour that I use in my writing.
Tough luck!.
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veneer of humour …Nah! its called boring!
Luzviminda,
Kaya humihingi kunwari ng tulong si Tianak sa UN para imbistigahan ang mass killing na ibinibintang lahat sa NPA ay para makakuha lang ng POGI POINTS! Para namang hindi marunong mag-salvage operation si Assperon, tama na nga.
Napahiya kasi ng husto sa aksyon ng US houses led by Sen. Boxer kaya gutong bumawi ng Tianak. Iyon ay kung papatulan pa siya ng United Nations!
News: Kinaladkad si Satur Ocampo ng mga kapulisan [‘foolish men’ to me] papuntang Leyte.
Aba, aba! Nagkalat ang mga butcher at galamay ng Master Butcher [as per Adolfo Pagcalinawan’s description] posing as president of the Republic.
I believe glue enjoys being labelled a BUTCHER rather than being called “igorota” by the master planner himself, pidal of the numerous affairs.
Vic: What got into this Senator Arroyo for another asinine statement. It’s not a matter of one member of Military or many who are responsible for the killings, they are the members of AFP.
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Bobo nga e. Point is the Tiyanak does not understand the word “responsibility” or what they call “command responsibility.” Dito iyan, suspended na iyong mga nasa itaas, then slashed by ang salaries hanggang sa mawalan sila ng mukha enough for them to try to commit suicide!
Wala si Tiyanak niyan! Bobo na tapalani pa kasi!
Gago rin ano? Bakit hindi sabihan ni Bocobo si Tiyanak to follow the rule of law? Golly, lumang kaso na napagsilbihan na iyong talagang mga ginawa ni Satur, tapos kinakasuhan pa. Wala bang tinatawag ng “statute of limitations” sa Pilipinas? Golly, 20-25 years na ang kaso, kinakalkal pa rin ng mga bobo at inutil? Over in Japan, the statute of limitation is 15 years, enough time for any Japanese in fact to make up for any wrong done if he is not caught by the police, who also takes the responsibility for not being able to capture an offender, and running around as a fugitive and being bothered by his own conscience.
Iyan ang tinatawag na “hiya” that even the yakuzas and chimpiras definitely have even just a little. Nagpapakamatay nga dahil may hiya! Pero si Tiyanak and Company? Forget it! Sementado na ang mga mukha niyan! Hindi lang sementado, baka binakalan pa!
taipan88,
Mas mainam sana kung merong footage na kinaladkad nga ng kapulisan si Ka Satur na pwedeng ipakita sa madlang pipol. Kaya lang e sa kadiliman pa rin ito ginawa para walang media na makakita.
Totoo ‘yan, the Tianak enjoys being called a BUTCHER, kasi ala Idi-Amin na s’ya!
“statute of limitations” kamo Yuko?
Marami akong nababasa na legal docs dito na kahit ilang taon ang lumipas ay pwede pa ring kasuhan basta strong ang evidence at papayag ang korte. In fact, ang dami ng nalutas na kaso after more that 15 years, kaya lang ay may DNA/most modern technical evidences to support the legal process.
Ang tanong ko ay paano makakasiguro na hindi planted ang mass graves na un-earthed (daw) ng military? Sa aking opinyon ay pareho lang naman na capable na gumawa ng mass graves ang magkabilang panig, lalo at nagkaka-enkwentro sila palagi.
RE: Ngayon na nga ang araw niya. Pana-panahon lang yan.
For every action force there is an equal, but opposite, reaction force-Newton. I will wait for the end of Gloria Arroyo and Jose Pidal regime. They will be prosecuted for their crimes against the Filipino people. Weather weather lang yan!
Chi:
I’m planning to show the movie “Amin: the Rise and Fall” sa Wednesday para ma-realize ng mga pilipino kung anong klase gobyerno ang meron sila ngayon. Walang pinag-iba sa bogus regime ni Tiyanak. Same pattern and same beginning!!!
Mas grabe iyon kesa dito sa bagong movie with Whittaker, “The Last King of Scotland.” I have both movies as a matter of fact.
Yuko,
Show them also “300”.
“I’m planning to show the movie “Amin: the Rise and Fall” sa Wednesday para ma-realize ng mga pilipino kung anong klase gobyerno ang meron sila ngayon. Walang pinag-iba sa bogus regime ni Tiyanak. Same pattern and same beginning!!!”
tsk tsk tsk yan ang hirap sa iyo eh. ano ang akala mo sa mga pilipino, tanga? yung may vested interests lang at yung mga biased na against the phils. ang magsasabing walang pinagkaiba si Amin at Ate Glue.
paano mo malalalaman eh wala ka naman dito? hindi naman first hand yang info mo? through the Net? di rin first hand info yan
To cocoy:
my sympathies to what happened to your kumpare and other friends
sabi ni Andy Kaufman(Man on the Moon):
“I am from Caspiar, an Island in the Caspian Sea. It sunk.”
‘Thank you very much’
“Over in Japan, the statute of limitation is 15 years, enough time for any Japanese in fact to make up for any wrong done if he is not caught by the police, who also takes the responsibility for not being able to capture an offender, and running around as a fugitive and being bothered by his own conscience”
Too bad for you, this is not Japan.
tsk tsk tsk umusbong na naman ang colonial mentality. hoy ganyan na ang Japan bago ka dumating dun. wala ka namang contribution kung bakit ganun sa Japan. nakiki-angkas ka lang sa di mo ginawa.
asus, if such were the case, matagal na sanang wiped out ang Yakuza or maraming police na ang na-sanction for failing to neutralize the Yakuza once-and-for-all.
saka i doubt kung tama yang 15-years na statute of limitations na sinasabi mo. malamang pareho dito.
dito ang statute of limitations (the more precise term is ‘prescription’) vary, depending on the crime being charged. crimes with the highest penalties have the longest prescriptive periods; murder prescribes in 20 years.
To benignO:
“It takes just a little thinking to see beyond the quaint mind games that they play on the general public.”
You are expecting 99.9% of bloggers here to think? You’re asking for too much!
But on the other hand, if you are expecting 99.9% of bloggers here to think, it can also mean you are expecting the best from people. Pwede rin pala. Positive din.
Sige, I’ll expect the best na rin from 99.9% of bloggers here.
Tanong ni Louie Beltran:
Are you a communist? yes or no?
Meron dito na graffiti sa bahay ni ellen:
Are you a Pinoy?
sagot ko: maglaro na lang tayo ng futsal
ystakei:
Sa Marine Parade, pangkaraniwan lang ang mga style ni PM Goh Chok Tong noong 2000.
Minsa kapag weekend pumupunta yan sa Marine Parade Community Building para bumisita sa library duon.
Naalala ko tuloy, ano kaya kung maaprubahan ang House Bill(HB00518) ni Rep. Darlene Antonino-Custodio tungkol sa Municipal Library sa buong bansa?
‘langya naman. 99.9% na bloggers dito hindi marunong mag-isip? susmaryopes! ‘yung .01% si anthony scalia ‘yun?
grabe naman! kaya pala lumalabas na ang utak sa ilong at tenga!
i suggest, anthony scalia, ought to take up elementary arithmetic once more since he cannot even get his percentages right.
on his views on democracy, and many others, i suppose there is not much we can do about it: a classic case of pretending to be asleep.
Kung ako ang tatanungin, mas gusto kong tuluyan nang maging bulag ang hustisya.Kaysa naman sa nakakakita ngunit may blindfold ang mga mata!Para ano pa?
Siguro naman yung killing fields sa Leyte kung talagang magaling kayo ay alam niyo.Noong panahon ni Apo Lakay nangyari ito.Isang magsasakang taga Leyte (almost illiterate)ay naging ambassador to the US.When he rose to power,he obliterated his critics.Dyan na nagkaroon ng killing fields.Alam niyo na siguro ang tinutukoy ko.I firmly believe Ka Satur when he said recycled skeletons.
Anthony Scalia:
You say 99.9 of the bloggers here dont seem to think?
Think again.There is a .1 remaining.Don’t ‘misunderestimate’
this value if you know what I mean.
apoy,
ang ibig niyang sabihin, siya ang natitirang 0.01% na ‘yun.
isang simpleng kaso ng taong ang tingin sa sarili ay isandaang talampakan ang angat ng paa sa lupa!
A “Better Man” Rep. Satur Ocampo is.
A Disrespected Man Assperson is.
So where’s the egg-throwing line for Assperon ? I’m signing up !
chabeli,
no, anthony scalia is the “better man”.
ngunit siya ay tumatandang paurong.
Chabeli:
I’m selling the eggs – business is business Hahahahah!
Chi,
Kung mag-imbestiga man ang US o anupamang International group ay hindi naman basta tatanggapin ang mga ilalatag na ebidensiya ng militar at gobyerno. They have very professional investigators who are scientifically trained to analyse evidences. Parang yung napapanood natin sa CSI series. Na malayong malayo ang ating mga imbestigador. At malimit ay mga planted evidences pa. Sa abroad nga lalo na sa US, hindi basta umamin sa krimen ay case closed na. Kailangan talagang mapatunayakung siya nga ang salarin o pinaamin lang. Kasi the authorites believed na kung gindi siya ang tunay na gumawa ng krimen, it means the real criminal is still on the loose.
Si GLORIA heto na naman isinisi sa iba (NPA daw!!!) ang lahat ng kanyang kasalanan at sana ang lahat ng ginagawa nya e bumalik sa buo nyang pamilya. Nakakasuka na talaga kapag nakikita ko sya sa TV (fake president, president of AFP hindi president of the philippines)kami rito ay naawa sa bansang pilipinas dahil si punggok ay nandyan pa rin(may nagawa ba sya sa bayan? WALA!!!—siempre sasabihin nya meron)–yon ngang last eleksyon nadadaya nya yon pa kayang kalagayang pang-ekonomiya. di ba? KIKO PANGILINAN mahiya ka naman sa balat mo kakandidato ka pa Mr. Noted? Kunwari Independent ka pero nagpapabango ka lang—di nyo na kaya lokohin mga pinoy, sya hindi pinoy kundi PENOY
Hmmm… Re Paquito’s “may nagawa ba sya sa bayan? WALA!!!—siempre sasabihin nya meron)–”
Wait till you hear what some guys say. They believe Gloria is the next best thing that ever happened to mankind.
paquito says: “kami rito ay naawa sa bansang pilipinas dahil si punggok ay nandyan pa rin(may nagawa ba sya sa bayan? WALA!!!—siempre sasabihin nya meron)–yon ngang last eleksyon nadadaya nya yon pa kayang kalagayang pang-ekonomiya.”
magagalit sa iyo si anthony scalia. kung gusto mo raw makatulong sa pilipinas magbigay ng trabaho para sa mga walang hanapbuhay, at hindi iyang iyong pagtatalak dahil hindi daw dapat asahan si gloria’t marami nang inaasikaso. huwag mo raw isipin ang magagawa sa iyo ng gobyerno kunbdi kung ano ang magagawa mong tulong sa bayan mo.
kaya nananatili sa poder ang anay na ‘yan ay dahil merong mga taong katulad niya (scalia) ang katwiran. hinihilamusan na ng tae sa mukha, nakangiti pa at sumasayaw!
To Mareng Rivera:
“no, anthony scalia is the “better man”.”
Salamat. Tao rin ako na appreciates being appreciated.
To apoy:
“Don’t ‘misunderestimate’ this value if you know what I mean”
No, i don’t know what you mean.
To zen2:
“i suggest, anthony scalia, ought to take up elementary arithmetic once more since he cannot even get his percentages right”
sige nga, show me how i did not get my percentages right.
Did you know that if one good-paying job here is created everytime “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA” is written here, unemployment here will disappear and all 8 million OFWs can return here and get good-paying jobs
“on his views on democracy, and many others, i suppose there is not much we can do about it: a classic case of pretending to be asleep”
my, such profound words.
of course there is not much you can do about it, just as there is not much I can do about YOUR views, if any, on democracy and many others
pretending to be asleep? no, im just thinking with my eyes closed
anyway, thanks for the reply
anthony scalia Says:
March 19th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
To apoy:
“Don’t ‘misunderestimate’ this value if you know what I mean”
No, i don’t know what you mean.
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Anthony Scalia:
You have just answered your own query.If you need me to explain,read on.
There is a fine line between thinking and knowing, which obviously you don’t have.Albert Einstein stopped thinking only when he saw the product of it. Go ahead with your thinking with your eyes closed.Don’t expect a tomato if you planted a potato.
Apoy,
Ang ibig sabihin ng isa pang bobo dela yuca ay siya alang ang marunong mag-isip as in 100-0.1= 99.9 percent!!!! Bwahahahahaha! 😛 Problem is anong klaseng utak meron iyan? Nice try! But mas marunong ako sa kaniya, and that’s a fact!!!
Sorry, buhatan na ng bangko!!!
To apoy:
“There is a fine line between thinking and knowing, which obviously you don’t have.Albert Einstein stopped thinking only when he saw the product of it. Go ahead with your thinking with your eyes closed.Don’t expect a tomato if you planted a potato”
ano daw?
sige na nga, if it will make you feel good na you are superior in all aspects, then go ahead, be my superior. be my guest. o ayan, masaya ka na ah
To ystakei:
Bwahahahahahahaha! YOU STILL CAN’T DO A KA SATUR!
Bwahahahahahahaha!
YOU CAN’T STILL DO A KA SATUR! YOU CAN’T STILL DO A KA SATUR!
(to the tune of a seven-year-old)
“But mas marunong ako sa kaniya, and that’s a fact!!!”
ho-hum, nagsalita ang matalino, ho-hum. sige na nga, kawawa ka naman. DI MO NA NGA KAYANG MAG- KA SATUR, WALA PANG MAG-A-ACKNOWLEDGE NA MARUNONG KA.
o sige, since your significance and worth depend on you being more marunong than me, o sige, i acknowledge na mas marunong ka sa akin. for your sake
(at least i saved someone from committing hara-kiri due to lack of significance and worth)
chi Says:
March 19th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Yuko,
Show them also “300″.
chi, are we going to dine tonight in Hell? 😉
Mga ka-blogs, si benignBokya ay tuwang-tuwa at buhay na buhay sa thread na ito about Ka Satur. Daming posts ng pantas-pantasan na ito, halatado ang mokong na ang misyon ay ilayo ang usapan sa tunay na isyu na siya ring ginagawa nina gloria at ng kaniyang mga kampon. benignBokya, basang-basa na kita, isa ka lang butaw na itinapon na iyong mga panginoon para sumali, nahh much better word…makisali, sa mga lugar na tulad dito na ang usapan at bulaklak ng dila ay ang paghambalos kay gloria makapal at ubod kapal ang mukha arroyo. Kita naman natin, patatlong araw na na ang laman ng telebisyon, radyo, at pahayagan ay ang tungkol kay Ka Satur, samantala ay abala ang kaniyang mga alipores sa panggagapang sa mga lugar-lugar kung saan kailangan nilang masiguro na ang kanilang manok sa Kongreso ay makalusot. Magician talaga ang walanghiyang pangkat nito.
spartan says: “chi, are we going to dine tonight in Hell? ”
ano bang meron doon? costume party? kayo na lang kung baboy ang handa.
SPARTAN!!! We are going to dine tonight in Hell, brother!
Mrivera,
All brave warriors here must see the film “300”. It is about duty and country and loyalty, and the glory of a “beautiful death” on the battlefield.
The blueprint for “300” is drawn from ancient Greece and one of the most legendary and important conflicts in recorded history — the Battle of Thermopylae.
chi, and I think women like you, ystakei, and anna de brux are fit to be Sparta’s women. Mga palaban at hindi basta nasisindak. 300 Spartans against a force of tens of thousands Persian invaders. Talk about a David against Goliath scenario, or a Bitch gloria with her big pack of greedy wolves against the hapless and meek Taumbayan, carnage!
Mrivera, sarap siguro lapangin iyong Alpha male pig na nasa Palasyo sa gilid ng Ilog Burak. hehehe
Spartan, we will see you all when the Tianak is gone or meron ng revolt against the poser!
chi, ilang beses na akong “namatay”. ngayon lamang uli ako nag-e-enjoy mabuhay. saklap nga lamang, sa impyerno ng kasalukuyang pamahalaan.
spartan, amoy at lasang asupre ang laman ng baboy na ‘yun. not fit for human consumption. he he he.