On-the-run Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo, a subject of Gloria Arroyo’s political purge, is on YouTube appealing to the international community who have expressed alarm over the human rights situation in the Philippines to pressure the Arroyo administration to stop the unabated repression and the killings.
Ocampo said trumped-up murder charges against him based on a crime that happened 22 years ago while he was in prison, aimed at putting him back in jail as well as the attempts to disqualify party lists groups Bayan Muna, Anak-Pawis and Gabriela cannot be treated in isolation from the general trend of political repression and state-sponsored extra judicial killings.
Ocampo asked the international community not to easily believe Gloria Arroyo who is known to say something and does the opposite.
It looks like Ocampo’s appeal has been taken seriously by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D. Cal.), chair of the Senate Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs conducting hearings on the human rights situation in the Philippines.
She did not extend the invitation sought by Gloria Arroyo for her team of police and military to participate in the Senate hearings where Marie Hilao-Enriquez, general secretary of Karapatan and Eliezer Pascua, general secretary of the United Church of Christ in the Philippines, testified.
Boxer said, “I don’t understand why you have to send military and police to a hearing that a couple of senators are holding to look at allegations of human rights abuses.”
“We made it very clear and to their credit they responded. They said they will not send any military, they won’t send any police, and they said they won’t send any intelligence agents,” Boxer added.
Actually, Arroyo did send police and intelligence agents. In Washington D.C. now, probably playing tourist after they were snubbed by Boxer, are PNP Deputy Director General Avelino Razon, (Deputy Director General Edgardo Doromal, head of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG); Col. Gaudencio Pangilinan, deputy chief of the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (ISAFP), and Col. Benedicto Jose of the AFP Human Rights Office.
Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye’s “palusot” is that Razon’s team was sent to the US in case Boxer’s panel called for resource persons. “They were just on standby… They are already there and as explained by Executive Secretary Ermita, they are there to act as possible resource persons if and when their assistance is asked. So I think, maybe, for the duration of the probe they will be there,” he said.
The unwanted presence of Arroyo’s police and intelligence agents in Washington D.C. gives the American an idea of the culture of impunity that Filipinos have to suffer under Arroyo’s heartless administration.
It’s the culture of impunity that has led to the unabated killings of people Arroyo and her military generals consider a threat to their hold on power.
Wire reports on the Washington D.C. hearing said the United States sought tougher action by the government to end the wave of extrajudicial killings linked to the military.
Boxer remained skeptical and was quoted as having said “it remains to be seen” if the Philippine government’s assurances to solve the killings “will be followed by real and tangible actions.”
What I found most interesting in the news report was a statement from Eugene Martin, a former deputy head of the US embassy in Manila, and now with the US Institute of Peace, an independent group established and funded by Congress.
Martin, considered to be an Philippine expert, questioned Arroyo’s capability to take steps to end the extra-judicial killings, saying she has been “politically weak” since her controversial election in 2004 and banked on military support. “While we all hope the killings will stop immediately, I am not optimistic in the short run,” he said.
Martin said donor nations and international financial institutions, which already had strong anti-corruption requirements for economic assistance, should link aid to independent investigations of the killings to enhance resolution of the cases.
Unlike Arroyo apologists, administration senatorial candidates Joker Arroyo and Ralph Recto, and Cebu Rep. Antonio Cuenco who are criticizing the US senate hearing on the Philippine situation as foreign meddling, we see it as a welcome human rights concern.
The blood of those 838 persons killed for their political beliefs since Gloria Arroyo grabbed power six years ago should be on her hands. Any help to oust her is welcome.
Click here for Malaya’s Jennie Ilustre’s report of the U.S. Senate hearing.
Ellen,
I wonder what our Fil-Am neo-con friends will say, you know, those who believe the people who were victims of extra-judicial killers were terrorists, NPA guerillas, etc, etc?
I suspect they will brand Ms Boxer and Sen J Webb, communists and a terrorist lovers or at best, will call them left-wing NPA-CPP sympathizers…
Anna,it’s becoming apparent the Americans do not like Gloria Arroyo and it seems they are really leaning on her. I’m still wondering because she is giving the U.S. everything they want (daniel smith, anti-terror bill).
Do they feel she is a liability to them now?
The United States government should suspend military aid to the Philippines until inept Arroyo regime end political killings and human rights violations. The militants blame the military-police dead squads for the killings. Philippine bogus President Gloria Arroyo needs military support for her political survival. She is walking in a thin hang wire. The principle of command responsibility stops at the doors of Malacanang Palace. Uncle Sam has the reason to kick her out A.S.A.P.
At long last, some concerned US Senators have paid attention to our cry for justice. Justice for the 838 victims (and still counting) if these evildoers aren’t stopped and punished!
We should be thankful the fake administration sent those police and secret agents supposedly to “assist” the investigators, kuno! It was a vivid proof, indeed, how the Filipinos have to live and suffer under this fake regime!
Kundi ba naman makikitid ang mga isip, they thought they can intimidate the investigators. Ano, Pilipins?
Masyadong matayog ang pedestal na kinatatayuan ni Mrs. Arroyo at akala niya, komo Senate hearing, sa Philippine Senate at kaya niyang magpalusot. Inismol niya ang kapangyarihan ng US Senate. Kaya hayun, ang ipinadala ay parang mga uniformed boys scouts na naging basang sisiw nang hindi papasukin sa US Senate hearing. Ang rason, standy persons lamang daw sina Razon as resource persons. Ano, US Senate gagawing istambayan? Naman!
Kung sa boksing, knocked out agad itong mga alipores ni Mrs. Arroyo. Ni hindi naka first round dahil hindi na pinatuntong sa ring ni Sen. Boxer.
Asus. Tignan niyo naman itong si Satur. If there is any opportunist around here it is him and his cadre.
He’s just another politco surfing the mood of the general public. It is a bit ironic that a guy who belongs to a group that is sworn to never recognise the authority of the republic and has been known to take whatever means is necessary (even at the cost of human rights and lives) to achieve their “revolutionary” objectives now invokes the very same clauses in the very constitution they have aimed to destroy over the last 50 years.
Sayaw Pinoy sayaw. 😀
“The blood of those 838 persons killed for their political beliefs since Gloria Arroyo grabbed power six years ago should be on her hands. Any help to oust her is welcome.”
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How about counting the number of Pinoys killed in the several decades of “revolution” that the CPP-NPA have waged?
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838 victims and counting of the fake president’s capricio to stay in power. The Tianak should be burned 838 times also that won’t even do justice to what pinoys suffer under her hellish regime!
Uncle Sam is now fully aware of the extra judicial killings and her human rights abuses. Her Dubya will be out of office soon and certainly not in a position this time to play buddy with her. The US Upper and Lower Houses are controlled by Democrats who are known to be enemies of human rights abusers. Woe to Glueria! Patung-patong na ang masasamang nangyayari sa kanya which forebode of her inevitable demise.
“Ano, US Senate gagawing istambayan? Naman!
Kung sa boksing, knocked out agad itong mga alipores ni Mrs. Arroyo. Ni hindi naka first round dahil hindi na pinatuntong sa ring ni Sen. Boxer.”
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Sleepless,
I like your post. Na- knocked out mo rin sila. hahahah!
Ellen,
Gaya ng sinabi ko sa previous thread, NAGLALAMYERDA na ang mga superband-aids sundalo ni Tianak. Ang laking kahihiyan sa pekeng prisidinti at sa kanyang mga amuyong nito, kasunod pa mandin ng balitang mundo na siya ang pinaka-corrupt na lider ng Asya! Double joepardy!
Ellen:
I answer your Question.–Cosmetic surgery is the answer.—Belo,Belo.
Let’s not forget that this Satur scumbag belongs to a group that is sworn to destroy any government that is based on a modern democratic constitution. Their group are responsible for a discredited “revolution” that so far has resulted in the loss of thousands of Pinoy lives.
It is the height of duplicity that this bozo is now allying himself with the very people and principles they have for so long sought to destroy.
If Pinoys buy this crap he is saying, then Pinoys will once again prove how idiotic our society is.
Check out the tired old rhetoric of Satur’s coward “comrade” Joma Sison here:
http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/16-2-joma.html
Note how the words he uses exhibits this deep delusion of grandeur they harbour.
And if you have reserved some smiles for the puppet organisations that these bozos run — Bayan Muna, Gabriela, and other commie-infiltrated grous, THINK AGAIN. Don’t buy their rhetoric about being “maka-bayan”.
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So-called “cause-oriented groups” (COGs) at present seem to have a monopoly over the label “nationalist” or “patriot”. They claim to be the only true nationalists simply by virtue of their willingness to invoke chaos on our streets and to express themselves in a form of Tagalog that makes generous use of six-syllable words that most ordinary Filipinos hardly ever come across; all in the name of the Filipino masses, so they claim.
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Full article:
http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/16-nat.html
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This elections are certainly — and as expected — turning into a circus.
The clowns are starting to come out.
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Ellen,
Re: “This elections are certainly — and as expected — turning into a circus.”
Of course, samahan mo ang ano mang political sortie ng isang tiyanak na ubod ng pangit pareho ni Gloria na inaalalayan ng isang criminal na si Chavit Singson na ubod ng matanda pero MAITIM NA MAITIM pa rin ang buhok kaysa kay Mugabe e di talagang CIRCUS ANG LABAS!
Si Tiyanak dilaw ang gilagid at kasing laki ng flippers ang mga paa na kasayaw ng ocho-ocho ni Chavit Singson sa entablado na ubod ng pangit na tao e talaga namang CIRCUS ang labas nila!
ACTIVISM will always be there in a country like ours where REPRESSION, ABUSE of Power & Resources, MILITARISM, CORRUPTION, NEGLECT of the PEASANTS & the POOR, UNEVEN APPLICATION of LAWS, and other ABUSES of the GOVERNMENT are the order of the day. And if these things will not stop then I will not wonder if one day we will have a REAL BLOODY REVOLUTION!
(Ellen, with your indulgence, just want to post e-mail I received from Leah)
From: Adolfo Paglinawan [mailto:mymaestro88 8@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:23 AM
Subject:
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
California Senator Boxer presided over the first hearing on the extrajudicial killings today, and judging from the surgical questions she asked, it was obvious the lady senator did her homework. She also mentioned extensive briefings made by the in-house legislative think-tank, the Congressional Research Survey, for the benefit of all members of the foreign relations committee.
For starters, she cautioned Eric G. John’s against doublespeak for painting a “rosy picture” of the Philippine economy calling his attention to a recent survey by a Hongkong-based group putting the Philippines as “most corrupt” in Asia. John is the deputy assistant secretary of state for east asian and pacific affairs.
Boxer also asked John to raise the bar by admitting that despite the rhetorics coming from Manila officials, the Philippine government has not embarked on anything credible to mitigate the killings and that US assistance to the Philippines must be used not only to send a strong signal but to leverage the stop to the extrajudicial killings in the Philippines.
The senator also asked the state representatives to stay and listen to the testimonies of Amnesty International, the United Christian Churches in the Philippines, Karapatan and the United Sates Institute of Peace, all of whom later pointed at the Philippine security forces as the main culprit.
The lady senator did not mince words and asked for verifiable results from the Philippine government. She said she feels she is directly accountable to making sure reform flies because there are 1 million Filipinos in her constituency in the state of California. It is even made more urgent, she added, because the US military has presence in the Philippine assisting the Philippine military in its anti-terror campaigns, and could wrongly be misunderstood to be a party to the illegal killings.
Before taking leave, Boxer also ordered the report of UN Rapporteur Philip Alston be accepted in toto to the records of the Senate, calling it most comprehensive and most credible.
Virginia Senator Tim Webb also sought from the witness representing Karapatan clarification of the statistics they have documented from their 15 regional offices. After the lady witness appeared cocksure about her position that the victims they tallied were not collateral victims of encounters but individual unarmed civilians targeted for assassinations, Webb asked her to repeat the name of the person she mentioned in her prepared text to be most likely behind the extrajudicial killings. Thus the name of Norberto Gonzales, Mr. Arroyo’s national security adviser was put on record.
Webb, being a former Secretary of the Navy recalled fond memories of his frequent visits to Asia and especially the Philippines. Before banging the gavel to end the hearing, he assured his audience that the US Senate knows very well what is happening in the Philippines because in addition to our long-shared history, there are 100,000 Americans residing in the country.
The hearing ended with a consensus on the floor that the person posing as president in the Philippines is not a lady but a butcher, who has done nothing beyond rhetorics in addressing a very serious international problem.
We started 2:40 pm and were off before 5pm.
What was inadvertently omitted in today’s hearing, however, was that Siche Bustamante-Gandinao, 56, a member of the farmers group Misamis Oriental Farmers Association, was assassinated as recent as last Monday a few meters from a military
detachment. Gandinao (now victim #837) testified before Phillip Alston on the killing of her father-in-law, Dalmacio “Tatay Daki” Gandinao, during the UN rapporteur’s visit to the Philippines.
Expect sanctions soon.
-ADOLFO Q. PAGLINAWAN
By Email from Washington DC
[mailto: mymaestro888@yahoo.com]
So, the NPAs and the communists killed Siche Bustamante-Gandinao too because as Ebdane was saying she was a military asset (see Tongue’s report in previous thread) after Gandinao testified before Alston against the military?
Nagkakabuhol buhol na ang mga dila nitong mga kampon ni satanas na si Gloria… si Bunye nagsisinungaling tapos si Ebdane hindi alam ang sinasabi.
Hanggang ELECTION CIRCUS na nga lang ang mga walanghiyang at mga gagong iyan!
“The hearing ended with a consensus on the floor that the person posing as president in the Philippines is not a lady but a butcher, who has done nothing beyond rhetorics in addressing a very serious international problem.”
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The poser is not a lady but a butcher. Indeed!
Thanks, PV.
Well, well, well!
IT IS about time some people take notice….
I hope and pray that something be done to stop the pygmied tyrant by the Pasig.
After all, no one can fool ALL the people ALL the time.
Is this the beginning of her end?
Sana nga…..sana!
Time to hit the sack friends, so I will see you tomorrow.
Meanwhile, keep up the good fight! Batuhin ng kamatis iyang si Gloria at ang mga Team Inutil niyang mga kandidato pag dumating ang Gloria Pidal Arroyo Election Circus caravan nila sa banda sa inyo!
PV,
Thanks for sharing that email. It gives us a more vivid scenario on the said hearing.
PV,
Election Circus, sila-sila na kabig ng “person posing as president in the Philippines”. Sabi mo nga ay “nagkakabuhol-buhol na ang mga dila” sa pagsisinungaling! Umurong sana ng tuluyan ang mga sinungaling na dila na ‘yan!
sana, makialam na nga ang america. kahit maraming pagkakamali ang amerika, ito pa rin ang bantayog ng demokrasya sa mundo. wala pa ring tatalo sa amerika kung freedom ang pag-uusapan. mas maganda sana kung democrat ang presidente. si bush, malamang gusto pa niya na nakaupo si gloria. di bale, hanggang 2008 na lang naman si dubya.
Aside from this US hearing ay may parating pang isa na European members naman ang mag-iimbestiga. Basang-basa na ang papel ni Gloria sa International Community. It means na masyado nang glaring ang mga kawalanghiyaan ng administrasyon ni Gloria Engkantada. “ENCHANTED KINGDOM” talaga at ang nakaupo ay isang… BRUHA!!!
PV,
When the TUTA Circus Caravan comes to my part of town, be assured I’ve prepared enough welcome meals for the whole TUTA team.
I hope I won’t mess their diets with a grand buffet fit for royal feasts…isang drum na KANING-BABOY!
At sana ay nakabantay din ang International Community sa darating na eleksyon. Kaya dapat BATAYAN ANG BOTO!!! There are indications na nag-uumpisa na ang “Cheating Mechanisms” ng Team Untidy. NOTED:
(1)Sobrang bilang ng botante – imagine 49 million. Aba eh kalahati na ng populasyon ng Pilipinas yan ah. Imposible!
(2) Sobrang imprenta ng mga election paraphernalias – siyempre yun ang gagamitin sa mga pagpeke ng mga dokumento na isu-switch nila.
(3) Ang pagkopya sa serial numbers – Obvious na may gagawing duplication. Meaning FAKES!
(4) Unti-unting pagkundisyon sa mga tao na lumalakas ang Team Untidy sa pagpapalabas ng bayarang surveys.
(5) Ang pagpapakalat ng mga militar sa mga baluwarte ng oposisyon para mang-harass. At di natin alam kung ano pang mission orders ang binigay sa kanila ni Esperon.
(6) Ang pagkilos ng ibang Comelec officials upang “maupo” ang mga party lists na kabig ng mga nasa administrasyon at mawalan ng pwesto ang mga kalabang party lists.
(7) Ang mga re-alignment ng mga budget para sa “pangtustos” sa eleksyon.
(8) At syempre pa ang mga pagsibak sa mga local officials na maka-oposisyon upang ang gagawin nilang “switching of ballot boxes” na may laman na mga prepared documents ay maging madali. – Usually after ng bilangan sa mga presinto ay sa city hall o sa Provincial capitol muna dinadala ang mga ballot boxes bago dalin sa Comelec.
Kaya mahalaga na BANTAYAN AT HUWAG IWANAN ANG MGA BALOT BOXES MULA SA PRESINTO HANGGANG COMELEC!!!
Ang Hirap baka sa Comelec mismo ay mga prpeared documents na rin! LOKOHAN NA TALAGA pag nagkataon!!!
OOooPps… at huwag din nating kalimutan na out of the 49 million “registered voters” daw, mga 10 milyon ay nasa labas ng bansa upang maging OFWs. Malamang na magkaroon ng maraming “ghosts voters”.
“sana, makialam na nga ang america”
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Sana nga. We’ve proven over the last 60 years that Pinoys are unable to govern themselves.
It was a self-fulfilling prophesy:
“I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
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Welcome to hell kabayans!
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Benign(o),
Mukhang MASAYA ka talaga pag nakikita mong nasa HELL ang Pilipinas noh! IBANG KLASE KA TALAGA! Magpa-CHECK- UP KA NGA!!!
“I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans”
SIRA-ULO lang ang naniniwala dito! Sino ba ang papayag na mala-impyerno ang kalagayan ng kanyang bansa!!!
Hahaha,
All this proves is that even our Leftist Anti-Americanism is a form of colonial mentality. After all, we learned our anti-imperialism from Mark Twain and the anti-imperialist League.
It only proves my assertion that even our Communists are really Little Brown Americans.
But please, Philippine Daily Innuendo is really insulting the people’s intelligence when they make it appear that posting a video on You Tube means Satur “testified” before the US Senate. Yecch. What a big fat yellow journalist lie! (Oh and that’s the other thing we learned from Americans like William Randolf Hearst.) He was never invited to the hearings, but I am sure the FBI and CIA are still interested in him and Joma for the murder of Col. Nick Rowe. Satur is only proving himself and his lawyers to be liars for flouting the Rule of Law and not surrendering with a warrant for his arrest issued by the RTC in Leyte. Luckily, the automatic related videos feature of YouTube points right at Joma’s naming of his front organizations.
bakit kaya pinakawalan ni tita cory si JOMA?
The appeal of Satur Ocampo is not to the US in particilar but to the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. It is a sign that the Filipinos are already becoming “helpless” under the REPRESSIVE & MILITARISTIC regime of Gloria Engkantada. And it good that the International Community is responding to our call. Alam na rin naman nila ang nangyayari sa bansa natin kaya lang hindi sila pwedeng mag-initiate. Kailangan magmumula sa atin ang paghingi ng tulong. Para hindi matawag na “Invasion”. Another inquiry is coming this May with the European Union this time.
Ellen said: “Ignacio Bunye’s “palusot” is that Razon’s team was sent to the US in case Boxer’s panel called for resource persons.”
Dumbunye will do good as a circus barker and snake oil salesman after gloria goes to the gallows.
Pinakawalan si Joma ni Cory kasi si Joma ang tumawag kay Ninoy na HUWAG pumunta sa Plaza Miranda kasi may mga binigay siyang mga granada kay Kumander Dante, a ni Salonga.
Sana isama ang mga pangungurakot ng mga Pidal para makialam na rin ang Anti-Money Laundering Council. Pera yata natin ang nilulustay ng walang habas ng mga Pinutukan ng Lintek na mga Arroyo-Pidal na ito at kanyang mga alipores tulad ni JocJoc Bolante at Nani “Sweetheart ni Glo” Perez.
Sleeping with Communists
Antonio C. Abaya
The Arroyo government has given as the reason for the declaration of a state of national emergency a growing tactical alliance between young military officers and the Communist movement in their common desire to force President Arroyo out of office.
I realize that among the liberals in the burgis community, it is fashionable to dismiss the communist bogeyman as a figment of someone’s imagination. Or that this concern is a throwback to the Cold War era, especially during the McCarthy witch hunts in the US of the 1950s, and should no longer be taken seriously half a century later.
But in its Jan. 28 issue, the Philippine Daily Inquirer confirmed such a tactical alliance in a front-page story headlined Left-Right alliance vs GMA confirmed.
Reported the Inquirer: Disgruntled officers of the AFP and the PNP are reaching out to people’s organizations to get support for their grievances, Bayan Muna Rep. Teodoro Casiño told reporters Casiño said that as in the ouster of Presidents Marcos and Estrada in 1986 and 2001, the military’s withdrawal of support would be crucial to the removal of President Arroyo from power.
But their exact role in her ouster will be determined, to a large extent, by what the people’s movement can accept , Casiño said.
This means—oh, you naïve warriors of the Magdalo—–it will be the communist politburo, not you, who will decide what you can and cannot do in the struggle against President Arroyo. The same warning can be directed to the ideological naifs of the Black and Blue Movement, the Hyatt 10 and the likes of Tita Cory and Triccie and Bettina and Josie who have naively chosen to ally themselves with the communists in their efforts to unseat the embattled GMA.
Even the voluble Rex Robles was quoted in that Inquirer story that it was “natural” for the Left and the Right to confer with each other, “especially because they were once together in detention” after the 1987 and 1989 failed coups.
You—–Magdalo idealists and burgis ideological naifs—-will all be playing mere supporting roles… The communists intend to play the main starring role because they want to dominate the resulting “transition council,” almost certainly the one being stitched together by Boy Morales, chief political lieutenant of Erap (who is financing all this as he did the Oakwood Mutiny of July 2003) and co-founder in 1972 of the National Democratic Front (NDF), the political arm of the CPP. Even Joma Sison was supremely confident, in a recent message from Utrecht, that the Arroyo government would be replaced by this ‘transition council.’
GodSaveDConstitution Says:
Satur is only proving himself and his lawyers to be liars for flouting the Rule of Law
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What Rule of Law are you talking about?
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Now, I have no problem with soldiers and officers, as well as ordinary civilian folks, becoming disenchanted with their governments and walking out on those governments. That was how the people of Eastern Europe (East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Albania) got rid of their communist regimes in 1989, after 40-45 years, and peacefully too, except in Romania.
But in our present situation, the opposite is being attempted: To ultimately install a communist regime, through the ruse of a people power exercise, financed by a disgraced president who, more than anything else, wants to be restored to the presidency so that he can unilaterally clear his name of the plunder charges pending against him.
One can forgive Erap for his ignorance, but one is amazed that more educated burgis types like Tita Cory and Triccie and Bettina and Josie and the Black and Blue Movement are so blinded by their dislike of Ate Glo that they willingly ally themselves with the communists to achieve their common goal.
Tita Cory seems to have forgotten that in 1987 she naively freed from detention, over the objections of the military, Joma Sison and other top communist prisoners, apparently on the wishy-washy prayer that if she were nice to the communists, the communists would be nice to her.
Never happened, of course. As soon as Joma reached Europe, he and his NDF organization in Utrecht waged a disinformation campaign among Europe’s generally leftist media, bad-mouthing Cory Aquino to make her look unworthy of the Nobel Peace Prize for which she had been nominated. That’s how Tita Cory missed being the first Filipino Nobel laureate.
GodSaveDConstitution Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 9:39 am
Pinakawalan si Joma ni Cory kasi si Joma ang tumawag kay Ninoy na HUWAG pumunta sa Plaza Miranda kasi may mga binigay siyang mga granada kay Kumander Dante, a ni Salonga.
Sayang wala na si Ninoy Aquino para malinaw ang mga sinasabi mong ito. Though don’t get me wrong, I am no fan of these commies, but with the present predicament that our country is into, I would surely choose the lesser evil, which would be the militant groups rather than the wolves in sheeps’ clothings which would be gloria and her gangs.
Ito ang problema sa marami nating kababayan, takot na takot sila sa sinasabing mga Komunista, pero tulad na ng sinabi ko dati, sino ba ang KOMUNISTA? Ano ang KOMUNISTA? Sige nga mga magagaling kong kababayan dito sa kuwarto ni Ate. Sa palagay ninyo ba ay totoo ang mga kinatatakutan ninyo o ang pagkatakot ninyo sa salitang Komunista ay maihahalintulad sa pagkatakot ng mga bata sa multo, kapre, tikbalang, at iba pang maligno? Ikaw benignBokya, sino ba ang komunista para sa iyo at ano ang ikinakatakot mo dito? Lahat kayo dito na magagaling sa pagsasabi na dapat tayong matakot, lumayo, lumaban, isumpa, at durugin ang Komunista, isang tanong lang, BAKIT?
Spartan,
Eh, buhay pa si Jovy Salonga, siyang na nalumpo’t napilay ng mga granada ni Joma’t Dante sa Plaza Miranda Bombing, na talaga namang ginawa ng NPA. Itanong mo sa kanya, o kaya ay basahin ang kanyang libro. Hindi mo yata alam na sila at hindi si Marcos (ano pa man ang marami niyang kasalanan sa taong bayan) ang nagpasabog doon. Upang matuloy ang martial law at lumago ang “rebolusyon.”
Spartan Says:
isumpa, at durugin ang Komunista, isang tanong lang, BAKIT?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Elementary, Dr. Spartan. Kasi ang mga takot sa komunista ay takot sa kanilang anino.
Communism per se is not bad actually. In this form of government everbody is at the same level. It promotes “Cooperativism”. It is the kind or the character of a leader that would make it bad. Just like Democracy, it has a very beautiful concept but if it is being ruled by the likes of Gloria, then it would really be SSSSSOOOOOO BAD!!!!!
spartan,
pumayag naman kaya ang U S of A na maging kumunista ang pinas? alagang-alaga ni uncle sam ang south korea at taiwan di ba?
GSDC, nasa libro din ba na sinasabi mo na nagtawagan si Joma at Ninoy, kung saan binalaan ika mo ang huli na may sasabog sa Plaza Miranda? Kung anduon iyon sa librong sinasabi mo na hindi ko pa binabasa, iyon nga ang ibig kong sabihin na wala na si Ninoy upang sang-ayunan o itanggi ang mga kuwentong ito.
tama ka Spartan!
yang mga walang patumanggang bumibira sa legal na paraan na pinasok ng mga progresibo, militante at mga makabayan sya ring ugali ng mga malulupit na militar.
tinatanong kung ano ang basehan, di naman makapag bigay. china-challenge na maghapag ng formal reklamo at kaso, dinadaan sa “shortcut.”
ung mga progresives nung panahon na nag undergorund at namundok, sabi nyo bumaba at sumama sa legal na proseso na ibinibigay ng constitution (i.e. party list system)… ngaung nasa kongreso kinukulong, hinaharass, PINAPATAY..
sala sa lamig, sala sa init.
pairalin natin ang batas di ba sabi nyo, benign0?
patuparin mo ang Hernandez doctrine, lumingon ka sa 1992 (pag pasa ng repeal ng anti-subversion act), tignan mo ang constitution (party list, civil liberties, etc)
kung sinasabi mong ang BM or AnakPawis or Gabriela ay kontra gobyerno edi di na sana sila sumumapa sa constitution at tumakbo sa congress, nagkakamali ka, kontra sila, kontra katiwalian sa gubyerno, kontra abuso, kontra sa mga policy na sa tingin nila ay anti-people, anti-constitution at anti-svoereignty… anong problema mo dun?
at kung ayaw sa kanila ng tao… di hindi sana hindi nag top notcher ang BM… dalawang beses pa! ngaun 3 peat na… asahan mo yan, wag lang dayain… hindi bale, kahit naman wala sa kongress ang mga yan, nndun pa din naman sila sa parlamentaryo ng lansangan… kung saan nila kayakap, kasama sa hirap ng buhay ang mamamyan.
sa technicality pa lang talo na ang mga sumampa ng kaso…
paano pa kaya sa argumento? lumaban kayo ng patas, ipatupad ang batas!!!
Matandang kuwento na ang Plaza Miranda, ngunit desperado ang CPP NPA na kalimutan ang katotohanan ng kanilang kahayupan. Mas mahalaga ang mas bagong kuwento ng Killing Fields nila noong 1980s at 1990s. Paranoia ang pumasok sa kanila. Hanggang ngayon nagtataka ako sa mga extrajudicial killings na ito, sapagkat mala-Plaza Miranda rin ang dating ng propaganda nila. Pinalalabas na gobyerno ang gumagawa. Ngunit ito bang si Gandinao na Bayan Muna raw, siya ba ay komunista, aktibista o ahente ng estado? Importanteng alamin ang katotohonan. Palagay ko, kung sino ang nagsisinungaling sa bagay na ito ang nagsisinungaling tungkol sa lahat ng mga killing. Ganoon rin sa sinabi sa US Senate ng mga NCC na yung Bishop nilang sinaksak sa Pampanga — yun ba execution ng Estado, o biktima ng pagnanakaw?
RE: Arroyo did send police and intelligence agents. PNP Deputy Director General Avelino Razon, (Deputy Director General Edgardo Doromal, head of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG); Col. Gaudencio Pangilinan, deputy chief of the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (ISAFP), and Col. Benedicto Jose of the AFP Human Rights Office.
There’s something wrong here. The military and police top honchos are reluctant/boycott congressional hearings in the Philippines. They have all alibis on earth for NOT attending senate inquiries. Malacanang Palace even decreed that no government officials can attend congressional inquiries/hearing without Gloria’s permission. Why? In the United States Congress, Gloria Arroyo’s lapdog generals not even invited by US Senator Barbara Boxer *volunteered* themselves as resource persons in alleged political killings in the Philippines. Gloria Arroyo sends her uninvited delegation in Washington D.C. to lick Uncle Sam’s ass. It means no military/economic aid to the Philippines is less kurakotan.
Eksakto hindinanoypi, si Angkol Sam, si Angkol Sam, lagi na lang si Angkol Sam…hehehe Diyan magaling ang mga amerikano, sa propaganda ng pananakot. Para itaboy ang mga tao palayao sa isang bagay, kailangang takutin mo sila na ang bagay na ito ay ikakapahamak nila. Iyan ang prinsipyong pinaiiral ng mga amerikano. Masama ang komunista, pinakita nila sa mga telebisyon nuong digmaan sa Vietnam sa pagitan ng mga Komunistang North Vietnamese/Vietcongs at South Vietnamese ang mga litrato at pelikula ng mga karahasan at pagpatay na ginawa ng mga komunista sa mga tagasuporta ng Democratic South, pero ng mga panahon na iyon, people around the world could only see and watched the atrocities committed by the VCs but what was not shown at that time was the wanton destructions and massacres being done by the american forces. It was only in the mid-80’s that we could watched through stocked reels, videos showing the carpet bombings of the USAF with incendiary bombs that engulfs wide areas of communist controlled north with hellish fires. That conflict was between vietnamese against vietnamese, so on hindsight, seeing them killing one another was obvious, but seeing the American forces smashing the seemingly helpless local forces of the communists at that time would now be beyond comprehension for me.
The issue of extrajudicial killings is not closed and I am sure we do not have the full truth about it. Yet there are those quick to count the bodies and accuse the govt. Is Gandinao really “victim” #837. Esperon claims she was one of their own. Can he prove it? I hope he does because it may make some people around here think a lil harder before they blast away…the way many of us did about Plaza Miranda before the truth of that awful event came out…
Benigno:
Asus! Kung ganyan ka ba ng ganyan ay pwede ka namin katagay-tagay ng Tanduay.
Agree,Ako sa mga pinosting mo Dodong.O, baka naman pinapadama mo lang kami dahil ang gusto mong laro ay pirde-gana.sige na nga,sali ka na.
Alam mo Dodong,ng binigkas ni Quezon ang famous phrase na iyon,akala kasi niya ay hindi siya dadalhin ng merkano sa merika para ipagamot,di ba mayroon siyang black and white at kailangan ang antenna.Sa mga merkano diretsahan kasi sila.Pag sinabi mong puting kabayo,huawg kang magbigay ng itim na kuneho.Iyan Dodong Iyan ang storya.Pero ni Uncle Sam ayaw niyang makita na naa-api ang kanyang amigo.
Oh,di ba di ka nagarote,dahil good boy ka ngayon sa skuwela,behave!behave! Na Dodong.
Cokecoy, alam mo ba kung anong paboritong kotse ni Satur Ocampo? SaturN.
Artsee;
Anong kulay ba ang ibinigay mo kay Dodong,safe driver siya ngayon.
Luzviminda,
You mean to say okay lang ang PASISMO kundi lang gago si Hitler at Moussolini? Okay lang ang militarismo kung hindi lang masama si Tojo? Okay lang ang totalitarianismo, kundi kay Lenin at Stalin?
Ngek!
Again, I would repeat, I am not a communist nor a sympathizer. I did not even joined the LFS which was born during my college days. After graduating from high school I was aiming to enter the PMA, but my Nanay and Tatay were one in stopping me, because they said I won’t last in there. Kasi daw suberbyo ako. Matigas ang ulo at hantarang sumasalungat kapag ayaw ko sa isang bagay. I then planned to take up Political Science, kasi meron pa akong “Ninoy Fever” ng matapos ako ng Hayskul. Again my mother went agaist my plan, and forced me to take an engineering course instead. Whenever I visit her on my trips back to Manila, and we would have these silly arguments on the current political issues which of course are centered on my attacks on her favorite gloria macapagal-arroyo, she would utter…”kaya hindi kita pinakuha ng politikal science, tiyak ko kasapi ka na nina Satur Ocampo ngayon”, of course her tone was joking but her meaning was serious. Ang nanay ko ay hindi nakaabot ng mataas na pinag-aralan, kaya sa aking sapantaha, isa siya sa milyong kababayan natin na kayang paikutin ng propaganda na ang isang tao, kapag kumontra sa mga kawalanghiyaan ng gobyerno, ang taong ito ay isang nang rebelde at Komunista. benignBokya, hindi ba kababawan ang kaisipang ganito?
Spartan:
Alam mo noong nag-aaral pa ako sa pinag-aralan ng pamantasan ni Eddie Villanueva,nasasalubong ko ang mga iyan,mga kumustahang magkakaibigan at siga-sigarilyo sa umpukan habang nagkukuwentuhan,hindi na ganon ngayon ang pangalan ng pamantasan,ang gusto rin ng nanay ko ay mag-pare ako.Pero ang sinabi ko sa kanila noon,malaking kasalanan sa D’yos kung ako ay mag-papare,dahil lalabagin ko ang ipinag-utos niya na”Humayo kayo at magpakarami”
Sinabi ko rin sa nanay ko,masasayang ang gandang lalaki ko,magandang binhi ang lahi namin bakit ayaw niya akong magtanim.Noon wala akong alam na kukuning kurso at sinabi ko dito na nga ako sa Lepanto dahil masasaya ang mga studyante.Iyong pan-enroll na ibinigay sa akin ng nanay ko ay sobra sobra kasi binigyan ako ng maraming pera dahil ang alam niya ay kay Tata Basti ako pupunta.
Naniwala ako sa mga ipinaglalaban nila hanggang pamartsa-martsa na sa Mendiola,masaya.Ayon nagalit si Apong ko.Namundok iyong mga iba,taga pagtangol ng mga naaapi.Okey lang noon at walang naagrabyado.Mga iba nakikita ko sila pag bumababa ng bayan mamili ng champion na sigarilyo,binibigyan ko sila ng kabang bigas at mga ligo.
Pero ng nawalan sila ng supremo,minalas si Bernabe Buscayno naging tulisan na ang grupo at pwesahan na buwanang collection sa baryo.Nawala ang aking paghanga sa kanila.Kaya umalis na ako at nangibang bansa.Hanggang ngayon pumuputi na ang buhok kong paisa-isa ay di pa tapos at walang linaw kung ano talaga ang ipinaglalaban nila?Mabuti pa si Eddie Villanueva at marami ang nahikayat sa mga pangaral niya.Ngayon sino ang problema? Kailangan dyan ay kumatay ng baka imbitahin ang lahat ng grupo mapakaliwa,mapakanan at mapagitna at pag-usapan na kung ano talaga ang problem at magkasundo na.Ano,Dodong?Agree ka ba?
ang issue ngaun dito hindi ang “i have 2 hands, the left and the right”…
ang issue ngaun, nakatutok ang buong mundo sa Pilipinas pagdating sa usaping “karapatang Pantao” or HR… pati nga UN nag labas na ng puna sa human security act dahil sa extra judicial killings.
whether Satur was part of NDF in the past or whether Satur is in the fold of the law now, when Bayan choose the legal struggle thru street parliament and congress, iisa lang naman ang isyu eh… lahat ng dissent sa administration ni Glueria ay BAWAL… kita mo kung lumusob dun sa kapitol parang lulusob sa gera? at heto ngaun, short cut na (il)legal procedures ang ginagawa para lang hindi maka pag kampanya si Satur.
sabi nga nila, mas makatao pa si marcos kasi dinaan sa martial law, ngaun walang martial pero martial law ang panahon, tinalo pa nga ni glueria ang annual record ng “killings” ni marcos sa loob ng 14 years ng martial law eh at 20 years ng presidency…
ngayon si Ka Satur? sinong susunod si Allan Cayetano? Si Loren? si Koko Pimentel?
hindi issue sa ngaun ang past association ni ka Satur, dahil sa (uulitin ko ha?) Hernandez doctrine, Repeal of anti-subversion act, Party list system… lahat ng mechanism ng equality, civil liberty at poltical/economic representation na sinasabi ng constitution natin ay sinusunod ni Ka Satur, pati limits ng legal struggle… ngaun kung pilit ina-associate ang legal sa illegal organization katulad ng NDF na di naman mapatunayan ng dalawang Gonzales… wala ng mangyayari sa atin… give chance ika nga… ung intolerance natin for level headed discussion wala eh… okei na sa atin ung red baiting kung ganun tayo ng ganun hindi nakapag tataka na si Gloria ngaun ang number recruiter ng NPA…
kaya sang ayon ako kay Spartan… eh ano ngaun kung leftist? militant? wala na bang karapatan?
Susmaryosep, PTZ! Eh kung binibigay ni Satur sa NPA ang pork barrel nya wala kang paki? kalimutan na lang? Punta ka sa Sagada, hanggang ngayon naghihintay ang mga tao para ayusin ang kalyeng papunta sa Halsema Highway. Pero may karatula na project ni Satur Ocampo ang pagkongkreto (42 million ang binadyet).
Tee Hee! Kahit ang mountain bike ko nahihirapang umakyat doon ah, sa laki ng mga lubak at bato.
Mga NPA lang ba ang may karapatan sa kaban ng bayan?
cocoy…
maganda ang kwento mo. isang calssic na kwento ng dating naniniwala at nawalan ng tiwala dahil sa mga pagkakamali ng iilan.
Sa pag re-research ko sa internet (opo marameng literature na nagkalat sa internet), noong late 90’s nagkaroon ng internal struggle sa loob, thus yung split. Kahit sa inquirer may mga special report nito.
Sa palagay ko ha?
Patuloy ang pagdame ng mga yan dahil hindi pa rin naisasakatuparan ang mga “social” change ideals noong EDSA 1.
Painfully but surely ung constitution natin nag-open ng avenue para sa mga taga-“labas”. Ngaung pumasok na sa batas
ung iba po sa atin pilit na pinapalabas sina Satur… sa palagay ko handang magpa kulong sina Satur sa isang condition, ipatas ang laban.
GSDC…
patunayan… patunayan…
halungkatin ang records ng COA sa House…
patunayan… patunayan.
yun lang naman.
PTZ: “…hindi issue sa ngaun ang past association ni ka Satur…”
Mali itong sinabi mo kung humihingi ka ng patunay sapagkat hindi naman sekreto na “liberated area” ang Sagada dati, at maraming mga “kasama” doon, hanggang sa ngayon.
Madali namang batikosin niya at ikondena ang armadong pakikibaka. Bakit hindi niya gawin iyon at kehabahaba pa ang palusot at pambobola ng mga Ingliserong komunista.
GSDC…
ibalik mo na lang sa tunay na issue…
which is repression of political dissent…
ngaun kung gusto mong i-asociate ang legal at illegal, bahala ka. bring on your diatribes, ipinakita mo lang ang political intolerance mo.
Ang mamamayan din lang naman ang sasagot sa tanong mo sa May election eh at iisa ang pagtingin ng masang anakpawis sa Bayan Muna, AnakPawis, Gabriela, Kabataan Party List at Suara Bangsa moro… sila ang partidong tunay, palaban, makabayan.
kung ayaw mo di wag…
Philippines is a sovereign nation, whatever illegitimate Gloria and her pigs did to our country, including the 836 documented extra-judicial killings of farmers, priests and lay advocates, human rights activists, lawyers and media people, it’s the Pilipinos responsibility and not Senator Boxer fo California nor the Washington. It’s unbelievable, sickening that we even considered assistance from the United States of America to deal with our own internal problems, especially when we already kicked the Americans out of the countr with the help of Mt. Pinatubo. If we can’t clean our own dirty laundries, we defintely don’t deserve to exist as a nation. I hate to say it, but we are nothing but bunch of hopeless hypocrite.
I just don’t understand to why should the US Congress and Americans to exert pressure on President Arroyo to put an end to the extra-judicial killings? What is wrong with the Pilipinos, they got nothing better to do but produce babies and couldn’t be bothered? And why should we as a nation let others meddle with our internal affairs?
I’ve my strongest disagreement and dissapointment for bringing our problems to Washington. Illegitimate Gloria is the Pilipinos business, and no one else. We need to stand up on our own, if we want to save the Republic and we can’t be running to uncle Sam everytime we disagree with illegitimate Gloria. Just can’t!
Why should we explain our problems or anything to Senator Boxer and Washington, is it because of the $170 million annual hand-out to help the poor Pilipinos? And when are we going to stop begging Washington and other countries? In my opinion, we are just embarrassing ourselves as a nation. No wonder these others countries looked at us but domestic helpers. We got to stop begging, it’s demoralizing.
If the Hudas now squatting at the palace by the murky river thinks she can suppress completely Filipino freedom, she is wrong. At least, now have this IT to hep us move mountains that was not in fact possible in the later 60’s and 70’s when Filipino idealists like Ocampo, et al had to hide in the mountains to escape persecution.
Now, Ocampo is again being hunted and falsely charged even when he was in prison when the crime that is being charged against him now was committed. This only shows the incompetence of the people who are making a mockery of justice there.
Wala nang magawa sa buhay nila ang mga inutil kaya kung sinu-sino na lang ang pinagbibintangan. Ingat ang mga law enforcers in the Philippines, because come judgment day, the Boba de la yuca will surely point fingers and not accept culpability for all these crimes that she is committing in the name of what is more appropriately called “JUST-TIIS!”
‘Tado talaga!!!
Now, as to the question why foreign governments like Japan and the US should kind of “meddle” in this issue is that (1) the victims cannot seek redress in the Philippines and have to course their grievances overseas even with the help of foreign governments and NGOs, and (2) a lot many of the aids given are either pocketed by these crooks, paid to the berdugos in the military on the pretext of fighting terrorism to kill those who would go against such destructive projects as the dam in Pangasinan financed with Japanese ODA, and why the Japanese taxpayers are demanding from their government why it should continue to finance such bloody projects, and (3) to preserve whatever remnant of democracy is there in that land of poverty!!!
One only has to join the various movements in the Philippines and overseas on this issues to be able to know what the crooks have been doing sucking the country dry since 2001 when the Tiyanak even solicited the help and assistance of the Communists to be able to grab power from a duly elected president and act as if the presidency is something that she has the right to claim by birth even with such fallacious claim that she descended from Lakan Dula whose real descendants, the Capulongs, do not claim filial affiliation with the descendants of the traitor Lazaro Macapagal!!!
I have first hand knowledge of the assassination of Antonio Luna, for example, because my own maternal grandfather, a cousin and a bodyguard of the Ilocano general, was eyewitness there. Buti nga lang hindi namatay to tell the story to his grandchildren. However, my dislike for the present occupants of Malacanang is now because of that, but because instead of improving, things have become more miserable for a lot many Filipinos. I only have to note down the number of Filipino inmates in Japanese prisons to know that life in the Philippines have become much worst under a bogus president, who is BTW the worse PIMP (BUGAW) in Philippine history!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! Hindi ako nangingiliti ng mga malandi sa totoo lang!!!
This should read, “However, my dislike for the present occupants of Malacanang is NOT because of that, but because instead of improving, things have become more miserable for a lot many Filipinos.”
So, Satur Ocampo had made a mistake joining the KM and the CPP, but he has since become a very useful and law-abiding citizen of the Philippines. And what’s wrong with their remaining Communists.
You, ignoramuses, who have not even met a single Communist or must have but must be too stupid not to recognize them, should stop talking, for over in Japan, for example, the Communist Party is a recognized party with members serving in the Japanese Parliament, and being what they have made sure to do—keep the balance of power so that nobody can abuse the way the crooks in the Philippines do.
Frankly, communist countries like North Korea or even China or the former Soviet union call their countries and system democratic as the power lies supposedly in the people. So, what are these paranoid communist haters quacking, or should I say croaking about?!!!
Tama na ang kagunggunan. Nile-legitimate lang ninyo ang kawalanghiyaan ni Tiyanak!!!
OK iyan si Boxer. I told my siblings to continue supporting her. Kakatawa nga kasi I have access to her while they don’t.
OK iyan si Boxer. I told my siblings to continue supporting her. Kakatawa nga kasi I have access to her while they don’t.
Ang hirap kay Dorobo, she thinks that she alone has been gifted with exceptional intelligence and everyone around her is an idiot, even when in fact it is the other way around.
This pyschopath should be removed pronto! Kawawa ang Pilipinas! Baka makatulad sa Rome when Nero was the emperor. Remember how he burned Rome while he plays his musical instrument? Ito namang idiot na ito, e baka nagsasayaw ng sayaw ng Igorot kasi Igorota na raw siya, hindi na lahing dugong-aso. Oops, oo nga pala ang mga Igorot din kumakain ng aso!!!
Communism is bad. It did not work and will never work. It is like a fairytale, the fountain of youth, and the treasure at the end of the rainbow. I hope our local COMRADES will start looking for the fountain of youth instead – at least they won’t be hurting anyone else. If Russia, China, Cuba, North Koreas’ history is not enough prof that Communism does not work – I don’t know what will. Currently, Cubans are crossing 60 miles of shark infested water – with a homemade raft just to get out of Cuba. Several thousand of them have already prerished in the Florida waters. Some of them are so afraid of the system they don’t even tell their families what they are about to do.
I think Philippines should be put up for sale since the Pilipinos are incapable of properly maintaining the country without assistance from the United States of America and other countries. Hopefully, we can salvage little dignity whatever we’ve left as a nation, and since illegitimate Gloria inch by inch is pawning the country’s future, anyway. In addition, we can’t depend on the government to deliver the goods, but make them richer than they already are. Time to say “No More”.
Beggars have no choice. Uncle Sam’s intervention cannot be avoided as long as the Philippines is receiving military and economic aid from the United States. Uncle Sam can always ask hoy ikaw tutang Gloria saan mo winaldas iyong aking pinadala maldita ka.
Fact of the matter, Senator Boxer and Washington are not under the payroll of the Philippines government, nor the extension of the Philippines Republic. At least, not to my knowledge.
Senator Barbara Boxer just responded * pressures* from her California Fil-Am constituency and religious group. Maybe she got tons of e-mails about political killings in the Philippines. It’s a natural reaction from a politician. Fil-Am voting bloc and religious group in California can make a big difference in a close electoral contest. Smart politicos should protect its bailiwick and interest group to remain in power.
“You, ignoramuses, who have not even met a single Communist or must have but must be too stupid not to recognize them, should stop talking, for over in Japan, for example, the Communist Party is a recognized party with members serving in the Japanese Parliament, and being what they have made sure to do—keep the balance of power so that nobody can abuse the way the crooks in the Philippines do”
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One of Satur’s Bayan Muna henchmen is actually a friend of mine, and I can definitely say that they still have close ties with the NPA. So don’t even think for one moment that Satur and his bozos have strayed too far from their hardline ways.
I also think the argument about Japan et al having legal communist parties is relevant. For one thing, Pinoy-style communism (just like Pinoy-style democracy) is a perversion of the original idea.
Japanese communists by any measure are different from Pinoy communists the very same way that American liberals are different from Pinoy liberals.
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Cheche Bustamante-Gandinao, AFP asset.
ito ang pahayag ni esperon, ang sinungaling na CSAFP.
tsk. tsk. tsk. sino’ng inuulol ng gagong ito? witness ni alston na nagbulgar sa mga pamamaslang, asset niya (esperon)?
kayong dalawa na lamang ni gloria ang maglokohan, huwag mo na kaming idamay.
si anthony scalia at benign0, maaaring maniwala pa! dahil hindi sila mga TANGA!
MRivera,
Imposible namang WALANG mga AFP asset sa loob ng Bayan Muna, Gabriela at ibang mga prente. Mayroon dati. Kaya nga nagpatayan sa loob ng kanilang mga hanay at higit sa isa o dalawang libo daw ang inopacan nila sa paranoia, di ba? Siguradong mayroon din ngayon, kung hindi, anong klaseng pasista sila Esperon? Eh dito na lang sa blog ni Ellen, wala kayang ahente ng estado? Sa tingin mo po ba walang mga witness ang militar na iniharap kay Philip Alston? Sino ngayon ang tanga?
GSDC, if satur misued his pork barrel, what is preventing
gloria aroyo and her missions to expose that and file charges against him? the case for that is violations of anti-graft law. Not murder. If it’s true.
Why did thy resurrect a case 22 years when satur was in jail at the time it happened?
ook how inep this gloria’s police and military officials. Pagdilao said they are looking for Satur and they will get him.
Right now,it’s on TV that Satur is in the Supreme Court, filing for certiorari or special relief from the lower court’s convicting him for murder.
Diego K. Guerrero said:
RE: Arroyo did send police and intelligence agents. PNP Deputy Director General Avelino Razon, (Deputy Director General Edgardo Doromal, head of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG); Col. Gaudencio Pangilinan, deputy chief of the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (ISAFP), and Col. Benedicto Jose of the AFP Human Rights Office.
Tumpak ka dyan, Diego.
This morning in his radio show Dos por dos, Anthony Taberna asked Gen. Razon by phone why they wanted to attend US senate hearng even if they were not invited while here in the Philippines, they refused to attend even if they were invited.
Poor Razon! He was at a loss how to get out of the pits gloria has shoed him into He merely said about e.o 464.
actually the solution may be to just remove the pork barrel. it is the root of many evil in the pinas today since there is no accounting on how money are being spent..
the hearing in the usa is just a hearing. they do that all the time. even here in norway they have hearings about everything including the usa. i understood the hearings are done by the democrats which is the opposite party of bush who holds the money for any action to be undertaken outside the usa. on the other hand it gives a signal to the govt in pinas that now we see you, watch your step. i donot think this is negative for pinas.
GSDC,
dame namang espiya/asset nyan… 830+ and increasing?
naman, naman… mismong Melo Comm na a ng nagsabi di ba?
anyhow… one dead is more than enough para sa isang bansa na nagsasabing democracy.
ngaun gumagamit ka na ng word na “daw”… patunayan mo kasi.
ang common denominator nyan ay lahat ng namatay mga sibilyan… non-combatants… mga member ng progressive groups na critical kay Gloria.
Kung hindi ba mga myembro yan ng progressive groups magkakaganyan ka kaya.. kasi sa tingin ko okey lang syo ang extra judicial killings eh, as long as mga members ng progressive groups ang namamatay.
Paano na lang kaya kung kasapi sa Liberal party or Nacionalista party ang mga namamatay dahil lang critical kay Gloria or sa mga policies ng gobyerno?
wala na bang karapatan sa binibigay na guaranty ng constitution? kapag member ba ng progressive groups/party list pwera na sa batas?
The constitution framers of 1986 has considered the fact that marginalized sectors should have representation in the policy making of the govt by means of party list. Our constituion is one of the most strongest constitution that upholds civil liberties… now you want to throw it back to pre-martial law years? Never again, GSDC… this time may I have the chance to utter the words “God save Our Constitution” from the hands political bigots, from political intolerables, from people who doesn’t believe in the real meaning of civil liberties.
Para sa akin, member man yan o hindi ng progressive groups/partylist still, extra judicial killings has no room in a so called civil, democratic society.
Who said Satur and Ka Bel misused their pork barrels? Wala nga silang nakukuha e. Frankly speaking, when Ka Bel visited Japan, we asked Japanese donors to finance his airfare and we paid for his meal and lodging in Japan. The only thing the people in the Philippine Embassy did was to provide him with the proper introduction to the members of the Lower House of Japanese Diet, his equals.
As for Ka Satur, he was financed by his own children who lived in Japan. We just provided him with the “logistics” so they say—proper introduction to the big shots in the Japanese government and the Japanese community. I was actually surprised to find him and his wife acting more like “burgis” than Communists compared to the dye in the wool Communists in Japan.
In contrast, we meet people like Eggcell Lagman, et al who would come here and making everybody in the embassy look more like their tsimoys and tsimays, staying in luxurious hotels and eating expensive meals complete with junket paid by the Filipino taxpayers in addition to the pork barrel and pakipkip.
Gago rin ang isang ito ano na dada lang ng dada and do not really know which is which! Golly, gusto nga ni Pandak na maghirap ng husto ang mga Ocampo kaya pati bahay nila sinunog! Hindi kasi niya kayang lagyan itong ka-probinsiya niyang ito, who is definitely not dugong-aso kahit na kapampangan!!!
NPA is a thing of the past. Tiyanak and Assperon has to make excuses for all the killings that is going on.
Hindinapinoy, do you really believe that in February 2006 that the left aligned with the right to topple Arroyo? Or this is just a pigment of imagination of the tiyanak? Wasn’t she the one who used the left( did you not see Satur at her side when they were overthrowing Erap?) and the right(Angelo Reyes)? So now she wants to get rid of the same leftists she used to gain power. This is what you call the biggest “ingrata” and a liar! She knows that if she does not get rid of her enemies, tomorrow she will be in the “kangkongan” so she has to get rid of her enemies. The two hemorrhoids are her hatchet men. They have to prove their worth( for 10 billion modernization money for the AFP)! Pakitang gilas ika nga. They have to produce and direct NPA studded events so they can get rid of tiyanak’s stumbling blocks.
Communism is a dying doctrine. Even China is opening up to free trade and does business with democratic countries and have to abide by human rights. Even the most powerful Russia(with star wars capability)disintegrated and now are embracing democracy( just recently visited some of these countries). Some of these countries have unemployment rates of over 10% except for Hungary which has barely 5% of unemployment because they produce and buy their own products. You can hardly see made in China products in Hungary.
Our Philippine NPAs are people in the countryside who are simply neglected. Give them the education, jobs and respect their rights and they will be law abiding citizens. Our government’s approach of simply killing and jailing these citizens will simply breed resistance. Earlier I read that Arroyo is the number one NPA recruiter! I agree 100%.
Corrrection-Tiyanak and Assperon have to make excuses for all the killings that are going on.
I am not a Commie, but I do not believe the idiocy of Filipinos, who love to mimic that American politician who rounded up a lot many people in Hollywood in the 50’s branding them as Communists, that the Communists are really bad people.
Being bad is not limited to the communists. There are lot of bad people in the Philippines for instance and they think they are democratic!!! For me, they are simply bad and idiotic!!!
Yup, PSB, the bugaw lures the NPA wannabes and hoard them overseas as potential maids and even wannabe hostages in Iraq and Lebanon! Tapos, kunyari aarte na concern na concern siya! Bugaw, first class!!!
Ellen: This morning in his radio show Dos por dos, Anthony Taberna asked Gen. Razon by phone why they wanted to attend US senate hearng even if they were not invited while here in the Philippines, they refused to attend even if they were invited.
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In other words, Ellen, it shows how these officials would have more trust in the Americans than in their own people. They would value more the opinion of the Americans than the opinion of their own people. Is that it?
Golly! If that is not insulting their own kind, what is? Unbelievable!!!
No wonder the Americans would not even trust the Philippine judicial system that is supposed to be patterned after that of the US, and would rather keep their national who had been convicted in the Philippines in a room at the US Embassy and eventually sent home unlike in Japan where they could abide by the rules as imposed in accordance with Japanese laws and tradition without any fuss!!!
Tang…ummmmph, can’t say bad words! Pakimura na lang, PV and Tongue T!
Parasabayan says:
“Our Philippine NPAs are people in the countryside who are simply neglected. Give them the education, jobs and respect their rights and they will be law abiding citizens. Our government’s approach of simply killing and jailing these citizens will simply breed resistance. Earlier I read that Arroyo is the number one NPA recruiter! I agree 100%.”
You hit the nail on the head. What we fail to use is understanding. We continue to push the poor out of the system. We misconstrue activism as communism. We become bigots and discriminate the poor because they don’t pay taxes yet most of them are our OFWs whose remittances prop up our economy. If only some of us here who still believe in the Red bogey would accept that fact that the insurgency is borne out of social injustice and inequity?
Accept it people, the communist you call terrorists are victims of a society who refuses admit that we made them outcasts. Instead of plainly condemning them, try to understand why they are who they are.
Ellen,Ptz,
I am not defending the arroyo administration. I call on them to file graft and corruption charges against anyone for whom they have evidence of wrong doing. I saw a road unfinished for many years and a sign saying it was Satur’s project. It’s just like any other pork barrel project among the trapos. But the last time I checked this is just a blog in cyberspace, not a court of law, so asking me to present evidence can only irk some people with inconvenient truths. There is also logic of course involved in opinions. When MRivera declares that Esperon is lying about Gandinao I found that illogical since I believe that there ARE spies in the organizations that the AFP thinks are front organizations, so it is not impossible that Gandinao was an AFP asset. No one denies either that in the past the rebels ate their own children out of paranoia. But it was highly unusual for him to make such a claim, (though not unusual around here for him to be insulted and called a liar.) I assume he will present evidence of his claim. I hope he does. But please don’t let anyone here pop a vein or something ranting and raving insulting other participants just because they disagree…it only gives temporary relief. But now that murder charges have been filed against Satur and 52 others some people are calling fascism or worse. So what do you want ellen, file or not to file?
ellen,
I think it is worth stressing that when the govt files criminal charges against a person, both sides are forced to the good. If the govt cannot prove the charges and the person is acquitted, it loses credibility and increases the chances of being turned out during the next election. If it can prove the charges then an outlaw is exposed and punished. No one is above the Law. In either case, it is the majesty of the law that is upheld. Without the Rule of Law, we get the Rule of Force. No one wants that.
GSDC,
I think you had better check your sources very very carefully before you pronounce the verdict that Congressman Satur Ocampo IS INDEED RECEIVING HIS PORK BARREL!
You know as well as I do that while pork barrels are assigned each and every member of congress, they are subject to the whims of Gloria walanghiya. She can make it extremely difficult for a member of congress to access his/her pork barrel – that many of these congressmen virtually have to beg, sign anything Gloria desires for Gloria TO RELEASE THEIR PORK BARREL.
Even Ninoy Aquino (may he rest in peace) was forced to kowtow to Marcos at the time because his district was being strangled by the NON-RELEASE OF THE PORK BARREL.
Let’s not go around shooting at any direction.
It seems that like commercial contracts signed with government which could be rescinded, cancelled and thrashed, even an amnesty granted by a previous government, no less than by the president of a revolutionary govt, i.e., Cory’s, can be thrashed and withdrawn at whim by this moral pint-sized worm in Malacanang.
Gloria and Satur Ocampo were the best of friends when she needed him to supply the bodies required by Angie Reyes for the latter to move to Edsa and commit mutiny against a duly elected, un-impeached president of the Republic.
She used him and his friends in Utrecht but when she felt she didn’t need him anymore, she now decides to have him arrested for a crime during election time for fear that he might win again! How extraordinary!
GSDC,
Ang sinasabi ko ay Communism. Di ko masyado alam ang tungkol sa mga sinabi mong form of Government. China now under Communism is doing very good. Dahil ang leader ay mas maayos ang pamamalakad at di tulad ng mga RUTHLESS & ABUSIVE LEADERS. Mas nabibigyan ng kabutihan ang nakararami. Tulad din ng dapat ay Demokrasya sa atin, kundi lang kay GLORIA ARROYO!
To prove how close Gloria and Satur Ocampo used to be, matter of fact, last year, no less than Congresswoman Cynthia Villar sat Gloria and Satur side by side at a dining table during Cynthia Villar’s birthday party.
Satur was Gloria’s conduit to Joma Sison who had given the approval for Satur to provide Gloria and Angie Reyes the bodies needed so Gloria could effectively topple Erap.
During Congresswoman Villar’s birthday party, Satur and Gloria tried to iron out the ongoing peace negotiation between Pinas and the NDFP…
Then Gloria double-crossed Ocampo when she unilaterally cancelled the planned Oslo talks. Matter of fact she told Satur to tell Sison (who apparently wanted the release of some of his comrades from prison including children of suspected NPAs who are rotting in jail) that she was no longer recognizing CARRHHILL, (protection provisions under international law) a treaty signed between the govt – while FVR was president and the NDFP.
Gloria is a hustler and a doublecrosser!
I think there will be international condemnation regarding the arrest of Rep. Satur Ocampo..
On another issue, according to the ABS-CBN web, Senator Barbara “Boxer urged the State Department to send election monitors to ensure free and fair elections.”
Will Gloria still push her weight ?
I don’t trust Gloria and won’t ever trust her even if she told me that it were raining, I would look out of the window to check out.
She is a doublecrosser – more doublecrosser than any other politician I’ve ever met (I met her in July 1992 during the presidential inauguration of FVR and have attended a couple of her small dinners in Malacanang, etc).
I’ve seen how she doublecrossed friends a few times – her penchant for doublecrossing caused her the end of a friendship with a fellow friend of ours, Bing Rodrigo (may she rest in peace), who was also one of my closest friends, because Gloria and her husband doublecrossed Bing!
I’m not enamoured of Satur Ocampo nor of the left-wing party groups in the Philippines but by God, this woman, the bogus president of the Philippines is ten times, twenty times worse and more criminally-minded than these left-wing politicians!
She is a doublecrosser of the worst variety, even doublecrossing her pal Dubya Bush no less!
BTW, here’s a note from arkibo:
Teachers pay tribute to fallen colleagues and demand justice for victims of state terrorism
Bonus tracks:
1. The NCCP Human Rights Report, “Let the Stones Cry Out”, and
2. KARAPATAN’s latest profile of extrajudicial killings
Please visit http://www.arkibongbayan.org, or go to:
http://www.arkibongbayan.org/2007-03March15-ACTtribute2martyrs/ACTtribute.htm
Arkibong Bayan Web Team
“This morning in his radio show Dos por dos, Anthony Taberna asked Gen. Razon by phone why they wanted to attend US senate hearng even if they were not invited while here in the Philippines, they refused to attend even if they were invited.
Poor Razon! He was at a loss how to get out of the pits gloria has shoed him into He merely said about e.o 464.”
Ate Ellen,
Kung ni-reason niya ang EO 464, eh di ibig sabihin may “BASBAS” ni Gloria! Mga nabubulol na talaga itong mga tauhan ni Gloria sa kasinungalingan oo! MAGREBOLUSYON NA NGA LANG!
Chabeli: I think there will be international condemnation regarding the arrest of Rep. Satur Ocampo..
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You bet, there will be. What this idiot does not realize is Satur Ocampo has made friends with a lot many Japanese Parliamentarians when he was invited to the Diet the last time he visited and was interviewed by interested parliamentarians of all parties, including the ruling Jiminto party of PM Abe. Baka ma-snub siya pagdating niya dito sa May!!! Bokya na iyan. Soon, she and her husband will be history!!!
Anna,
There was actually more to the association. Magkabalen kasi that was why they looked so close. Tapos, tinaga sa likod!!!
Like you, I’m not enamoured with Ocampo, but I hate injustice, and he is a victim of such!
Luz,
China is no longer a Communist country. It is now a capitalist country!!! 😛 Communism is now titular.
Over in the Land of the Rising Sun, the Communists are legal, more attached to Communist Russia as a matter of fact. Sila na lang yata ang natitirang tunay na Communist. Si Joma din “burgis” na daw.
In short, iyong sinasabi nilang NPA, etc., sa aking palagay ay mga tulisan na lang!!! 😛
Bobo talaga ang mga bugak na graduate daw ng PMA! Ngeeeeeeek! Yuck!!!
Bocobo: It only proves my assertion that even our Communists are really Little Brown Americans.
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Sinong Little Brown Americans? Ikaw? You bet! Mang-iinsulto ka rin lang, e pakilinaw na lang na ikaw lang at ang mga katulad mo ang little brown Americans!!! Pwe!!!!
Yuko,
You mean Satur and Gloria are mag-cabalens?
Sinong may sabing leftists lahat iyong nagsusumbong ngayon sa UN and US? Gago din ano? Sila kaya ang maging kamag-anak, etc. ng mga naging biktima ng mga hayop na militar na bayaran ni Pandak? Golly, mamamatay ng mga pilipino, binibigyan ng medalya! Saan ka nakakita ng ganyan?
Over in Japan, laking scandal iyan! Kasi dito bawal na pumatay na kahit kriminal kahit na pulis lalo na ang mga sundalong walang karapatan sa batas na magpulis-pulisan dito! Iyan ang matalino!!!
Kakakulo ng dugo!
Yup, Anna. Pareho silang kafamfangan!!! Nawawala din ang “h” ni Satur, pero hindi siya dugong-aso!!!! 😛
Ah, ganoon ba? Nadale si Satur Ocampo ng kampon ni Lazaro Makapagal, eh?
The United Methodist Church which FVR belongs to spearheaded the move for the US Senate to investigate the killings, see any connection?
The rule of law is nonexistent here, what the surot wants, the surot gets.
By the way Ellen, folks, have you noticed how the pint-sized bitch in Malacanang has been yakking against Joma Sison, even issuing arrest warrants (hahahahahah) against him in Pinas, yet HAS NOT AT ALL PUSHED FOR AN EXTRADITION treaty with the Dutch government?
There can be no more obstacle since Pinas no longer has the death penalty (which would have been the obstacle for the non-extradition to Pinas of Joma) and so if this pint-sized female dog in Malacanang really wants Joma, why hasn’t she pushed for the extradition treaty to get him back?
Could it be because she is not really serious about having him in Pinas because with his presence in Pinas, she can no longer go on her harebrained strategy of ALL OUT WAR against the CPP-NPA in Pinas? And with no reason to go on an all out war against her countrymen, she therefore doesn’t need to finance that war to a tune of several billion pesos? And without those contracts, she and her husband wouldn’t have the cuts, the kickbacks from the purchases?
She is perhaps more dangerous than Machiavelli for all we know.
Why HASN’T SHE PUSHED FOR THE EXTRADITION TREATY WITH THE DUTCH? Withouts such treaty, the arrest warrant against Joma is good only for use as asswipe – the Dutch WILL NOT EVEN LOOK at the charge sheet against Joma.
Gloria is doublecrossing the nation with her yakking against Joma, whom she obviously doesn’t really want in Pinas!
Schumey,
That is a great input on FVR & the United Methodist Church.
Hmmm… Does FVR want to put her in the stakes after all if you remember FVR had branded Gloria a Joan of Arc in the past?
Ystakei,
Japan is the most perfect semi-colony of the United States. Douglas MacArthur implanted democracy there after five years of direct colonial rule. Her entire defense is in the hands of America and under its nuclear umbrella. That is how Japan has become such a wonderful economic power. The Philippines on the other hand has had this strange fascination with independence and never learned that like a child who becomes independent of her parents, there is no guarantee of becoming wealthy, or wise.
Banzai!
I have just sent a copy of the letter sent to me by Cong. Satur Ocampo to the heads of the political parties in Japan.
I would ask ALL concerned Filipinos to please try writing to the heads of political parties in Japan.
I’m posting an old one I posted in one of the loops in this blog:
Please write to Shinzo Abe, Prime Minister of Japan at http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/forms/comment.html
at the Prime Minister’s website http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/index-e.html
Democratic Party of Japan (Minshuto)
Headquarters, Democratic Party of Japan
1-11-1 Nagata-cho
Chiyoda-ku
Tokyo 100-0014
Japan
TEL 03-3595-9960 or 03-3595-7312
FAX 03-3595-7318
EMAIL dpjenews@dpj.or.jp
Socialist Democratic Party of Japan
International Commission/Representative Miho Fukushima, Chairman
1-8-1 Nagata-cho
Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100-8909
EMAIL kokusai@sdp.or.jp
Japan Communist Party
HOME:www.jcp.or.jp/english
The Central Committee of the Japanese Communist Party
4-26-7 Sendagaya,Shibuya-ku,Tokyo 151-8586
E-mail:info@jcp.or.jp
You may write to them and tell them to stop the ODA to the Philippines under a bogus president.
IBASURA ANG ADMINISTRASYON! IBOTO ANG OPOSISYON! GO 11+0!
Anna,
The Dutch are the biggest state supporters of terrorism in the Philippines. Maybe because they never could get a sword in edgewise on the Spaniards for all those centuries and they still blame the Filipinos for it. Oh how they must hate La Naval de Manila. Viva Espana!
Schumey,
Napapahiya na lang si FVR. I know he has been approached by the UCC in Japan and elsewhere to act on the killings, hindi siya kumikilos as a matter of fact, but he will not do anything to stop US investigation on these killings now that the UCC in the US has made its move.
Sasakay ngayon iyan para maging bida kuno!!! Malakas siya kay Bush kasi kasama siya sa Carlyle group, but I doubt he has a clout now with the Democrat-controlled US Senate and Congress. Kung baga sa bagoong Pangasinan, naburo na siya!!! Yuck!
GDSC,
Re “Her entire defense is in the hands of America and under its nuclear umbrella.”
Not so fast, Dean!
Vis a vis North Korea, it is evident that America will help Japan to ward off the Kim Jim Il’s troops but as things stand today, Japan has ONE OF THE LARGEST and MOST MODERN DEFENCE FORCES in the world and can on its own defend itself from agressors.
It is therefore WRONG TO SAY THAT her entire defence is in the hands of the US. Dean, that’s a misconception that many people still hold.
These last 30 years, Japan has been sourcing its defence assets no longer just from the US but from France, UK and Japan as well.
I was a member of the team that supplied THE SHORE AIR DEFENCE OF JAPAN which is one of the most modern in the world! So easy on the generalization there. Japan needs its allies but its DEFENCE is no longer entirely in the hands of good old uncle sam.
Just setting the record straight here.
Dean, for someone with some brains better than the rest of Pinoy mankind, how can you utter such stupid, idiotic global statement as, “The Dutch are the biggest state supporters of terrorism in the Philippines.”
If you go by that logic, then it would be easy for the Dutch to claim that the Americans are the BIGGEST CAUSE of TERRORISM in the PHILIPPINES…
Don’t be idiotic – you lose credibility when you say such one-off statement.
Ooops, ….These last 30 years, Japan has been sourcing its defence assets no longer just from the US but from France, UK and GERMANY, as well as producing them themselves with America being an active buyer of many defence components that Japan produces.
Sorry, Mr. Bocobo, you don’t lecture me because I know more than you do! I move in various communities, etc. and I don’t limit my know-how according to the perception of what you call “little brown Americans” for I have never been one!!! Ikaw pa siguro.
As for history, I have done pretty good researches myself. I majored in history as a matter of fact, and specialized in British-Philippine relationship because of my blood connection with England. I was a research fellow and graduate student in UK FYI. It was there I actually understood what Communism was better than what the US-oriented Filipinos could comprehend under a rather less freer atmosphere as in the Philippines.
I’m no Commie, but I can tolerate them. I don’t know why you, yourself, should be so afraid of them!
# Diego K. Guerrero Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Beggars have no choice. Uncle Sam’s intervention cannot be avoided as long as the Philippines is receiving military and economic aid from the United States. Uncle Sam can always ask hoy ikaw tutang Gloria saan mo winaldas iyong aking pinadala maldita ka.
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I’m not in CA but even here in my area, the congressmen and senator are feeling the pressure because of the huge aids Pinas receives from the US!
Ka Diego,
Agree, beggars have no choice!
Re FVR and Carlyle Group!
Yuko, FVR has been sacked from the Carlyle Group!
And without Japan, and with the South Korean public wanting the US bases out, its America who needs its Asian allies to keep China in check.
If the Asian region consolidates, America will be the biggest loser. In the EU, its only UK who’s actually supporting the US. See how peaceful the other Europeans states are? They are not as jittery as the UK.
This waging of proxy wars has gone long enough. This is the reason why the world is yet to experience peace and harmony.
Thanks, Anna, for the info on Japanese defense. Even without the US, the Japanese can defend Japan. Kaya nga pinapaalis na ang mga kano sa totoo lang. it is why the bases in Okinawa are now being transferred to Mindanao despite the violation on Philippine sovereignty as stated in the Philippine Constitution.
We know for a fact that Japan has been financing a lot of US wars for the sake of US patronage because of Japan’s exports mainly to the US although we are definitely branching out elsewhere. The trend now is to cut off too much reliance on America, because the Japanese definitely would not want to be indebted to the Americans and be their slaves!!!
cocoy Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 10:59 am
Artsee;
Anong kulay ba ang ibinigay mo kay Dodong,safe driver siya ngayon.
Sagot: Kulay Pink.
Ate Anna, tama…magkabalen sina tiyanak at Ocampo. Kahit na iyon naging kabit ni Baboy Mike na si Suarez kabalen din.
Huwag na tayong magtaka kung bakit laging nag-aaway ang magkabalen. Hindi ba ang mga aso nag-aaway din sa kalye lalo na kung iisang buto at karne ang gusto?
GSDC, by your own loose-definition, even (the former) West Germany can be classified as a ‘semi-colony’. Contrary to your simplistic analysis, Japan became an economic power largely through their own efforts which, of course, is driven by their sense of nationhood that seems to be alien to Filipinos who consider themselves ‘little brown Americans’. The United States’ nuclear umbrella helped, but just like NATO in Europe, (and as Schumey has already said) it exists as much for its own protection as it does for Japan’s.
FVR no longer with Carlyle? I don’t know, but his name is still being mentioned when the group is talked about. One thing sure, though, is that he is no longer malakas with the US. Panaginip na lang niya ang sinasabi niya like the Maldita at the palace by the murky river who will soon be history!
Chabeli,
Weight-less na si Tianak ngayon, Barbara is pinning her down! heheh! Mukhang nakakuha ng katapat si Tianak!
Cvj,
Re The United States’ nuclear umbrella helped, but just like NATO in Europe, (and as Schumey has already said) it exists as much for its own protection as it does for Japan’s.
Spot on!
Ka Satur arestado na.. Gising na Bayan tanghali na naman. Gising, mulat na, kilalanin ang tunay na kalaban ng masa, makibaka. Singilin ang dugo sa rehimeng US-Aroyo.
Yuko,
Re: FVR no longer with Carlyle?
Nope, he’s resigned, a diplomatic way of saying he was pushed out for being useless almost 2 years ago.
I AM a lil brown american. And proud of it! The leftists and you all are also lil brown americans, except they don’t know it and you folks will surely deny it. But it really takes one to know one. Perhaps they are actually dimly aware of this fact, and that is why they hate themselves, I suspect. They also hate Filipinos who realize that humanity is really but a single nation infected with the mental virus of nationalism, which mainly affects their brain, but also starves their heart of allegiance to the future, which wont have the tribes or provencals of the past, just proud, individual human beings who aren’t ashamed of their parents, their forebears, their ancestors, and simply insist they are orphans.
Chi:
Mas maganda di hamak si Barbara. Natural face–no retoke! Si Pandak,pinatangos pa ang ilong, for I remember her as an ugly duckling in her youth. Tawag nga sa kaniya ng lahat noon, “Pangit”! Walang binatbat doon sa mga kapatid sa ama na mga pamangkin ni Rogelio at Jaime dela Rosa.
CVJ,
SIXTY MILLIONS died in World War II. If either Japan or Germany had won that war, though, would we be here to argue the Marshall Plan?
Ayaw ng Carlyle ang wala ng “say” sa kanyang country, that’s for sure!
With Sen. Boxer at the head of the investigation, its safe to say that the surot could be ousted by the Boxer Rebellion. I’m still waiting for Sen. Lugar’s phone call. Hello, hello Gloria. Its time to cut and cut cleanly.
My Fellow Lil Brown Americans: God Bless America! Love you all!
Re I AM a lil brown american. And proud of it!
Of course Dean, you should be too! You were born in the US, saved from the claws of Marcos and educated there too so it would be the height of absurdity if you weren’t proud to be one.
Nobody is taking that away from you but there ARE millions of Filipinos who did don’t share the same birth right you have and so refuse to be called lil brown Americans and you CAN NOT take that right away from them.
Latest Kay KA SATUR!
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National (as of 8:43 PM)
Satur may be detained over the weekend if SC fails to issue TRO
Bayan Muna Rep. Satur Ocampo would have to stay at the Manila Police District (MPD) station over the weekend should the Supreme Court (SC) fail to act on Friday on his petition for urgent relief.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=70332
Oooops, saved from the claws of Marcos by the Americans when Marcos put you in jail for being an activist (left-wing activist then dare I ask?)
Re GDSC’s SIXTY MILLIONS died in World War II.
Yep! and MORE THAN A THIRD of that 60 million dead WERE FROM COMMUNIST SOVIET RUSSIA or over 20 million Soviet (communists) perished…
Anna: Oooops, saved from the claws of Marcos by the Americans when Marcos put you in jail for being an activist (left-wing activist then dare I ask?)
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Is that so? So he was one of those suspected Commies then, ha? No wonder he now wants to be identified as a little brown American! Baka nga naman mabisto! Baka isa siya
doon sa nag-purge ng movement ni Joma and then, after conniving with the military, annihilated the group of commies now being blamed on Joma and Ocampo who were then in prison!!!
Akala nila makakalamang sila ha! Belat! Di buking pala!
Sorry Dean, I may be brown but I sure am no American. In the first place, there is no such thing as a pure American. The true Americans are the Dakotas, Black Feet, Yukons, Souix etc. All the whites came from Europe and the blacks from Africa. So what identity can America boast of? Nothing, they’re no different than you and me. We both came from God knows what race. So what kind of American are you? All I can say is I don’t owe America anything.
And for the record Dean, the Marshall Plan that enabled West Germany to rise from the ashes DID NOT COME MAINLY FROM America. Britain paid out as well – British assets in the US were used as payment to America to contribute to the Marshall Plan.
Let’s not belittle the efforts of the Allies in Europe who were made poorer, whose economies were sacrificed so West Germany could get back on its feet immediately after WW2.
Not everything came from America (almost in the same manner that Pinas was SACRIFICED by Douglas MacArthur so Japan could rise from the ashes.)
Schumey:
Why should one be proud of being “a little brown American”? Amazing! It’s like saying, “I’m a Niger so it’s OK for you to spit at me even with your phlegm!!!” How pathetic!
I’m glad to know, Brod, that you don’t admit to being one! Basta pilipino ka, and willing to die for Philippines, tama ka! Saludo ako sa iyo!
Sinabi mo pa, Anna. Filipinos were actually hoodwinked into believing that they were getting a first preferential treatment. I won’t blame the Japanese negotiators for the Japan-Philippine reparations treaty though. In fact, the Japanese negotiators included provisions for the rights of every Filipino to be protected under the laws of both Japan and the Philippines while the Filipino negotiators were busy counting how much they could profit (more like “kupit”) from the deal!
FYI, the Philippines got the biggest reparations payments. By the time Marcos became president, halos ubos na ang bayad!!! Nagkaniya-kaniya na!
GMA sent four of her military echelon in Washington! Sigurado lang sa kaban ng Bayan kinuha ang panggastos nila malamang First Class row sa eroplano at hotel. Mukhang desperada ang “dilag” sa palasyo?
Thanks Yuko. One should always be proud of his roots no matter how low some would look upon us. We are not pushovers and no one has the right to belittle me or my country. This the only country I have. You can call me proud, yes I am proud to a Filipino.
Re: We are not pushovers and no one has the right to belittle me or my country. This the only country I have.
Tens of millions of Filipinos have the same feeling Schumey and NOBODY BUT NOBODY has the right to take that feeling away from them by ranting that they are nothing but lil brown Americans!
Nobody but nobody must insult these Filipinos with a tag that they do not deserve!
Nabanggit si FVR dito, tutoo kayang naging siyota niya si socialite Baby Arenas at may anak sila? Kilala yata ni Ate Anna at ni Philippine Vigil. Kaunting tsismis at kuwento naman mula sa inyong dalawa.
Schumey,
Said like a true blue American! You don’t owe America anything. Right! Except for your perfect English with matching Midwestern diction (I am guessing lang), your knowledge of ancient American history, and that attitude, unmistakeably Western American of being a rugged individualist. Btw, there is this professor I know in Arizona with a beguiling theory about the origins of Dakotas and Blackfeet being in … Asia!
Si Mang Vic, proud din siya sa roots niya kahit na matagal na siya sa Canada. Ang hilig niya ay markang “Roots” na sikat sa Canada. Mahal lang ang mga damit niyan.
Artsee,
Chismoso ka talaga ha!
Totoo yan. Pero si Baby ay di lamang na mas may mahusay ang pagkatao niya (di siya nagpapatay ng tao) kesa kay pint-sized bitch na nasa malacanang.
Tilamsik,
That’s for sure, they travel at our expense. What is funny is how they try to use their propaganda to no avail. They can distribute all the reports they want, one thing is for sure, Sen. Boxer has more balls than the entire staff of the AFP has.
Hahahahah “Sen. Boxer has more balls than the entire staff of the AFP has.”
Sure looks it!
etong si GDSC, at any given oppurtunity loves not only to mock progressive organizations and downplay their established role in building stronger body politic. not contented, he talks rubbish and sound like a paid Assperon agent.
good for him at meron na talagang thread about Satur–he is now free to blabber to his heart’s content.
it is interesting to note, there is NO difference at all, repeat NO difference whatsoever, between his line of thinking and that of Gloria’s military apologists and paid hacks.
in terms of vitriol, deceit and malice; this guy is tops!
Ako po ay isang tunay na Pilipino. Ang wikang Ingles ay aking natutunan hindi dahil utang ko yan sa mga Amerikano kundi dahil kailangan kong kunin sa paaralan. Mahilig akong magbasa kaya kahit papano ay may konti akong alam sa mga katutubong Amerikano at kung papano sila sinakop at ginawang minoridad sa sarili nilang bayan. Alam ko rin po ang inyong sinasabing teyorya hinggil sa pinagmulan ng mga Dakota at Blackfeet, hindi po itong malayong mangyari.
granting for the sake of argument, without admitting, that am a Leftist (whatever it means); does it mean that Gloria’s little military agents got the DARN RIGHT to waylay my person at will, and can get away with it?
and here’s GDSC preaching the rule of law to prevail at every turn, but more than willing to look the other way when activists are murdered wantonly?
if that is not sanctimoniousness, then i do not know what is.
The US Congress GATECRASHERS may have no balls, but they got the pera ng bayan sa pagpapasarap sa America! Corruption at killings talaga sa Pinas sa ilalim ng POSER ay ayaw paawat!
Markang “old navy” ang paborito ko artsee, mura lang. alam mo naman kaming manga Pinoy Canadian, mahirap lamang, pero very proud sa sariling sikap as sana lahat tayo sumisikap rin para ipakita sa manga pulitiko tikong tikong (baluktot) manga yan na kaya pa rin natin mabuhay kahit na nilapastang na katakot takot.
By the way, don’t forget the Sacrifices of the Canadians in liberating Europe and helping rebuild it after the war. May not as big as our neighbor to the south, but considering that we are only a tenth in population as compared, and may not be portrayed much in Holywood movies, it was significant if history is the basis…
Chi,
Re Sen. Boxer has more balls than the entire staff of the AFP has but they got the pera ng bayan sa pagpapasarap sa America!
Hah! That’s for sure especially Boygee Pangilinan who will be making a side trip to California para maglakwatcha!
Vic,
Re don’t forget the Sacrifices of the Canadians in liberating Europe and helping rebuild it after the war.
Oh no, not ever! Without the Canadians aces the Royal Air Force would not have had enough pilots for the Battle of Britain!
gusto ko langbalikan yung ginawang “pagbibiro” ni GSDC tungkol sa defence ng Japan na ayun sa pagkaka intindi ko ay hawak hawak ng EU (estados unidos) ang japan pagdating sa usaping depensa.
tsk tsk tsk…
sabihin mo kamo takot ang EU sa Japan, kaya lagi na lang tinatakot ang Jpan tungkol sa north korean nuclear arsenal.
oras na sumuway ng tuluyan ang mga hapon sa gusto ng eu, aba aba, sa loob lang ng 3 araw meron ng sariling nuklyar arm ang mga hapon… yan ang kinakatakutan ng eu… ang Japan, kaya lahat ng paraan gagawin mapgilan lang ng japan.
ngaun balik tayo sa isyu ng repression ka ka satur, ano GSDC…
ilabas mo pa yang sidhi mo… para mas lalo pang ma-expose yang baliktad na paniniwala mo tungkol sa demokrasya… lakas ng loob mo na magpangalang GSDC, eh ikaw ang unang unag lalabag sa civil liberties.
To whom it may concern:
Kung tutoong Pilipino kayo, i-give up na nyo ang foreign citizenship nyo, bumalik na kayo dito, at makibaka kasama ng mga masang Pinoy. Tulad ng ginawa ni Ninoy.
Don’t worry, walang maga-attempt to assassinate you. Don’t flatter yourselves about being assassination targets.
Until that time comes, what you have now is a mere patriotism by convenience. You don’t deserve to be in the same room with real patriots – Satur Ocampo, the Batasan 5.
Show that you have the guts to put feet to your convictions. Join the struggle here.
I agree with Malaya, they should kick out all the idiots in the Philippine government today, including the bogus president! Ang kapal naman ng mukha ng punggok na iyan! Hindi na nahiya!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! IBASURA ANG ADMINISTASYON! IBOTO ANG OPOSISYON! GO 11+0!
To hindinapinoy:
“bakit kaya pinakawalan ni tita cory si JOMA?”
The biggest mistake of Tita Cory. Her 2nd biggest mistake is appointing Binay as OIC of Makati (ayaw nang pakawalan, kapit-tuko na).
Her 3rd biggest mistake is her failure to repudiate some of the foreign loans contracted by Marcos.
benignO, re: your slogan “think”.
in some previous thread, you spoke glowingly of IBM whose corporate mantra is: think. it might interest you to know that the said company is now Chinese (mainland) owned.
i suspect they did ‘think’ so much without putting their ears to the ground; from being the prima donna in computing business in yesteryears to a forgettable ho-hum these days.
a logical consequence of greed and insensitivity to the cries of computing community to allow its O/S to be made available to other users.
moral of the story: thinking, without listening to others will bring you the same fate, or as the Japanese, as a reprimand would say, ‘kangae sugita, mo dame’ (roughly: too much thinking, is also not good).
as an alternative, i humbly offer instead: listen, and act on them.
Yup, Schumey, bakit ba ang mga unggoy na iyan ang pambato lang na utang na loob ng mga pilipino sa Amerikano na sila ay marunong mag-ingles. Gago din ano? Sinabi mo pa! Sa UK, when I was there and would speak in my California accent, sasabihin ng foster mother ko, “You should stop talking American. These Americans “murdered” the English tongue!”
Golly, hanggang ngayon pa ba “colonial mentality” pa rin ang mga ungas na iyan? Golly, sasabihin pang umuwi na raw sa Pilipinas para doon makibaka? E di mauna sila! Di pag umuwi si Joma, pihado hindi na siya makakagalaw!
Sa totoo lang mas madaling maging pilipino kesa maging hapon! Pagawa ka lang ng peke pasaporte, pilipino ka na naman!!!
GSDC, World War II was also a joint effort. 40 million of the 60 million who died in WW II came from the Soviet Union, aka the Communists you despise.
For the first since I started reading news at Tribune, my virus buster has detected a trojan by just opening the site just now. If you do not have a powerful virus buster, you should avoid going to the site. Or, better use Netscape and not Internet Explorer to browse it. Get to a PC that does not use Vista.
Buti na lang magaling ang virus buster ko! Tang…..ummmph! Tongue T, Anna, pakimura na nga!
GSDC, BenignO;
Salamat nandyan parin kayo kahit di matanggap ng ibang bloggers ang posting nyo. Nasan ka na Ka Enchong? para naman mas tumaas ang antas ang palitan ng kuro-kuro.
Correct me if Im wrong; sa pagkakaintindi ko ang mga Kumunista walang DIYOS yan or walang dindiyos. It’s a Godless ideology, dapat ipatapon na lang sa Guantanamo yan si Satur Ocampo. Evil comes in all forms; isa na dyan si Satur Ocampo – kunyari makaBayan kuno. Galit sila sa Americans eh, bakit ngayon dun sila natakbo?
Kailan ko lang nalaman ko na KAPANGPANGAN pala si Kumander Tarucang founder para ng HUKBOLAHAP [Hukbo Laban sa Hapon], alam ko na ang pinagmulan ng galit sa mga Dugong-Aso!
ALIS DIYAN MAY KILITI AKO DIYAN!!!! 🙂
anthony:i do not know satur ocampo except for the things written here. do you think it is fair that he be imprisoned? i will be the first to admit that i am not as patriotic as others in deed, i donot deserve to be in the same room as other more patriotic people like satur.otherwise i would not have left the pinas. by the way, what do you think are the mistakes of the gma administration.
Ystakei,
I HOPE that what you say will happen regarding Gloria: “..Bokya na iyan. Soon, she and her husband will be history!!!” (March 16th, 2007 at 7:33 pm)
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Chi,
You said, “Weight-less na si Tianak ngayon, Barbara is pinning her down! heheh! Mukhang nakakuha ng katapat si Tianak!” (March 16th, 2007 at 8:39 pm)
Hay, saaaana !
“Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye’s “palusot” is that Razon’s team was sent to the US in case Boxer’s panel called for resource persons. “They were just on standby… They are already there and as explained by Executive Secretary Ermita, they are there to act as possible resource persons if and when their assistance is asked. So I think, maybe, for the duration of the probe they will be there,” he said.
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What a stupid move ! Talagang PA LU SOT ! Why will these IDIOTAS pre-empt the U.S. ? So they actually think that the U.S. has not gotten their number by now ? Balibhasa, they have grown accustomed to fooling the Pinoys akala nila, makakalusot sila kay Uncle Sam ! Tuloy, what they got is what they all deserve: A SLAP on their face from no less than the government of the United States of America !
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Indeed, “The unwanted presence of Arroyo’s police and intelligence agents in Washington D.C. gives the American an idea of the culture of impunity that Filipinos have to suffer under Arroyo’s heartless administration…The blood of those 838 persons killed for their political beliefs since Gloria Arroyo grabbed power six years ago should be on her hands. Any help to oust her is welcome.”
Very well said !
My God! Pano nasabing makabayan si Satur Ocampo, ang daming napatay at mapapatay pa bukod sa di makausad ang Pilipinas dahil sa mga maka-Demonyong adhikain nila?
I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
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Milyon ang nag-apply for visa sa US Embassy, gagawin ang lahat makarating lang sa bayan ni Uncle Sam.
Pinoy nga naman talaga, hoy, gising!
ALIS DIYAN MAY KILITI AKO DIYAN!!!! 🙂
una sa lahat bago sila(GMA administration) magpakulong aba tignan muna nila sarili nila—-nasagot na ba nila ang mga bintang sa kanila na pagnanakaw,pandaraya sa halalan, eto ngang 838 killings na nangyari sa GMA administratin lamng ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES at marami pang iba na katiwalian (isama na natin ang sangkatutak na kasinungalingan)–magumpisa sa taas bago tumalon sa ilalim at itong tungkol kina Ka Satur e matagal nang tinapos ni President Cory at President Ramos bakit dito sa administration na ito after 22 years—oh c.mon—-pakulong ka muna GMA and family
Ang alam ko ang grupo nila Satur galit sa America pero ngayon wala na silang malapitan kundi America or UN.
Dapat tularan na ni Satur at grupo niya ang pagsisi sa pagsama sa EDSA 2…si Loren already confessed that she regrets to join the EDSA 2 group…
Ang militar lang talaga ang nakinabang kay Gloria at si Kiko na din dahil sumikat siya di ba during EDSA 2…from councilor to Senator.
On ABS-CBN News.com (03/16/2007):
Palparan: Propaganda of govt’s enemies working
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Jovito Palparan said Friday that the propaganda of the “enemies of the state” is working after US Senator Barbara Boxer seemed to believe claims about the military and the government’s alleged inaction to stop unexplained killings in the country.
“Sa palagay ko maganda ang propaganda ng mga kalaban ng gobyerno. Kahit saang forum ay nadala nila ang usaping ito (I think the propaganda of the government’s enemies is excellent. They were able to bring [the issue of alleged extra-judicial killings] in every forum,” Palparan told DZMM.
The retired Army general said the US government is being fooled by critics of the US. He said American legislators should see for themselves how Americans are being branded and criticized by left-leaning activist groups in the country.
He said the US Senate should realize that the communist movement in the Philippines is an expert in using their enemies or victims for their own agenda.
“Bahala sila [sa] pamamaraan nila ng pag-iimbestiga. Parang niloloko nila ang sarili nila. Makita sana nila ang caricature ng mga Amerikano rito, kung paano sila ginagago rito” (It’s up to them [if] that’s how they investigate things. They might be fooling themselves. I hope they see the caricatures of Americans here, how they are being disrespected [by leftist activists]),” Palparan said.
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Dyos ko, ito si KAPALparan..the gall ! Mukhang mentally unstable ang ma-ma, diba ? May sayad yata – he is dillusional. I guess this behavour is normal among killers.
Actually his comments are laughable !
zen2 (at 10:45pm), i agree with your message with just a minor clarification, IBM just sold off its PC business to Lenovo, a Chinese-owned company. The rest of the Company is still intact.
Another laughable matter from ABS CBN News.com (03/16/2007:
Gonzalez accuses US of blackmailing RP
Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales accused on Friday the United States Congress of blackmailing the Philippines after US Senator Barbara Boxer threatened to cut US military aid in the Philippines after presiding over a US Senate subcommittee hearing on extrajudicial killings in the Philippines.
“They are always threatening us whenever we cannot follow to the letter what they want us to do. For example, when Lance Corporal Daniel Smith was not allowed to transfer to the US Embassy’s custody, they stopped the Balikatan exercises,” Gonzales told ABS-CBN News Channel.”
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I guess when you get slapped & fall into the water, you’re tendency is to grab on to anything that’s floating. In this case, Gloria & her Doggies are grabbing on to straws. We know very well that hanging on to straws is a desperate move that won’t save them from drowning.
Boom Tarat Tarat
Boom Tarat Tarat
Itapon si Gloria
Boom
Boom
Boom
sige ipatapon mo na dito sa norway at maipadala doon sa pinaka malamig na lugar, opposite ng impyerno.
Part of the laughable article from ABS CBN News.com (03/16/2007):
Gonzalez accuses US of blackmailing RP
“..However, Gonzales clarified that his opinions do not represent the President. Gonzales said “What I’m saying is my own personal view. This is my bidding, I love my country, my country should be respected””
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siRAULo says he loves the Philippines & that his “country should be respected” ?
Is saying, “Noted” (together w/ Kiko Cuneta) in the canvassing of votes in the 2004 Presidental Elections love & respect of country ?
Why didn’t he call Sen. Boxer a “muchacha” the same way he called the UN rapporteur Philip Alston a “muchacho” ? No balls yata.
SiRaulo, you said Chabeli?
Siya ang tunay na muchacho ng Poser president. Ang basahan na pampunas ng dumi ni Tianak ay kakambal na ng amoy imburnal na sira ulo na ito! Kambal tuko sila ni Norberto Gonzales! Parehong matindi ang pagka-loose ng turnilyos!
Chi,
Sabi ninyo na siRAULo ay “..ang tunay na muchacho..”
Muka nga 😀
Chabs, Chi,
Re SiRaulo’s “my country should be respected””
Maybe when this bonehead is gone and he no longer heads the Dept of Justice, the country will be respected. I suggest he climbs the tallest building in Makati and jumps off the top – then the country will have a chance at being respected.
While he is at it, this SiRaulo should take the pint-sized bitch in Malacanang so they could do a tandem.
Chabeli:
One thing I have observed working in the Japanese police as interpreter cum parttime investigator is that killing people can be habitual. I guess it is the same with Palparan, and many soldiers who have discovered “the pleasure” of killing their own kind in war and in peace. Para na lang silang pumapatay ng langgam!
Point is nakakasimba pa ba ang mga hypocrite na iyan? Nakaka-sacrament pa ba ang mga ungas? Yuck!
Frankly, what the NGOs approaching all governments giving aids to the fake government is not really asking for favor to help them lick the bogus president out but telling them to stop helping an oppressive regime. Is that hard to understand? But then, of course, they are here more as a job to glorify the PIMP. I wonder how much they get from the PIMP and feel tickled!!! Ang landi pa ng dating!!!
Permanent Interim Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez has no yagballs to label US Senator Barbara Boxer as DESTABILIZER of corrupt Arroyo regime or terrorists/communists sympathizer. Baka upakan siya ng KO bolo punch. Hindi umobra si Condi Rice. Kapag siRaulO lang di knock-out siya kay Boxer.
Who says that the ones telling the American parliamentarians or their Japanese counterparts are communists? For one thing, I did not see any communist among those who presented evidences to the Japanese Diet AI and other NGOs got during their tour of places where these political killings had become an everyday activity of the military under a bogus president. Majority were church affiliated ministers and churchgoers.
And they call themselves intelligent, and they think that they can still sell this paranoia about Commmunism. Even Moslem Fundamentalism is over. What they talk now is simply terrorism, even the kind perpetrated by an oppressive regime as that of Mrs. Pidal!
The Philippines respected? Not now that it has become a country of domestic helpers, pimps and prostitutes! No thanks to the no. 1 Bugaw who brags about jobs stolen from natives in countries where Filipinos are even illegally recruited and deployed to.
Kawawang bansa!
This should read, “Who says that the ones telling the American parliamentarians or their Japanese counterparts TO STOP THESE EXTRAJUDICIAL POLITICAL KILLINGS are communists? “
First of all, we should understand what we should be discussing here. There is that distinction of being a communist and being a Communist,communism and Communism (the big C).I can be a communist without being a Communist so to speak.
Did I lose you guys?
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By ano? Nabali yata ang daliri ni Manang Elvira o naubusan ng bateria ang laptop kung laptop ang gamit niya. O baka naman ang ibig niya sabihin ay Bye, nagpaalam lang. O baka naman buy at may bibilhin lang.
Apoy, Yes.
“I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
2007 na ngayon!!ngayon!!! ngayon!!!
Applicable siguro ito nuong panahon ni Quezon, pero ngayon? no way, titira ako sa Pinas run by devils, when there is heaven-like, like America. Sige, magtiis kayo na parang palaka.
Diwata Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
GSDC, BenignO;
Salamat nandyan parin kayo kahit di matanggap ng ibang bloggers ang posting nyo. Nasan ka na Ka Enchong? para naman mas tumaas ang antas ang palitan ng kuro-kuro.
Correct me if Im wrong; sa pagkakaintindi ko ang mga Kumunista walang DIYOS yan or walang dindiyos. It’s a Godless ideology, dapat ipatapon na lang sa Guantanamo yan si Satur Ocampo. Evil comes in all forms; isa na dyan si Satur Ocampo – kunyari makaBayan kuno. Galit sila sa Americans eh, bakit ngayon dun sila natakbo?
Diwata, tumpak ka sa kapirasong pagbibigay kahulugan sa salitang Komunismo. Pero sa lahat na, sablay ka at ang mga ka-tribo mong nanggagalaiti sa salitang Komunismo, at sa mga taong binansagang Komunista. Uulitin ko, dahil sa ang Pilipinas ay isang tuta ng Amerika, kaya sa simula ng kasaysayan sa malamig na giyera sa pagitan ng Amerika at mga kapanalig nito laban sa mga tinaguriang bansang Komunista na pinamumunuan nuon ng Unyong Soviet, kaya natatak na sa ating mga Pilipino na basta may kaugnayan sa Komunismo ay masama, karima-rimarim, kasumpa-sumpa, kasuka-suka, at hindi katanggap-tanggap. Mga amboys na tulad ni GSDC at ang taga-ibang planetang si benignBokya ay wala nang pag-asa na mamulat sa katotohanan na ang paniniwalang iyon ay PANIS na, kumbaga sa gamot expired na, at sa pagkain ay outdated na. Nabubuhay tayong lahat ngayon sa KASALUKUYAN, kung saan ang Estados Unidos na numero unong kalaban daw ng Komunista ay siya rin namang numero unong kabalikat ng bansang Tsina sa pagpapalago ng kanilang kalakalan, industriya, at ekonomiya. Ikaw GSDC, nagsusuot ka ba ng damit at sapatos na goma? Palagay ko paborito mo na tulad ng marami sa tain ang Nike, Adidas, o Converse? Siguro naman ay nakita mo na kung saan karaniwang gawa ang mga ito? Kaya nga ang tanong ko na hindi pa rin ninyo sinasagot magagaling kong ka-blogs dito sa kuwarto ni Ate, sino at ano ang Komunista para ito ay katakutan at isumpa ninyo?
One more thing Diwata, you keep on thanking benignBokya for blogging here? Hello??? It’s Ellen Tordesillas whom you should thank here for providing and allowing us a venue such as this. Kung gusto mong magpasalamat at samabahin si benignBokya, pumunta ka na lang duon sa kuwarto niya dahil balita ko nilalangaw na iyon at mga maligno na ang namamahay kaya pasok iyan ng pasok todits. 😛
==Comparing “Communism” to “communism”==
According to the 1996 third edition of ”[[Fowler’s Modern English Usage]]”, ”communism” and derived words are written with the [[minuscule|lower case]] ”c” except when they refer to a political party of that name, a member of that party, or a government led by such a party, in which case the word is written “Communist” (with an [[capital letters|upper case]] ”C”). Thus, one may be a communist (an advocate of communism) without being a Communist (a member of a Communist Party or another similar organization).
Spartan: sino at ano ang Komunista para ito ay katakutan at isumpa ninyo?
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Iyan din ang tanong ko, Spartan? Bakit ba takot na takot sila sa mga komunista. Sa totoo lang, wala nang komunista. Kasama nang nalibing ni Stalin at Mao Tse Tung!
Sa totoo lang, walang binatbat iyong mga tulisan sa bundok ng Cordillera at Sierra Madre halimbawa sa mga marunong magsakrispisyong komunista dito sa Japan. Ang tindi ng dedication! And what more, and sinasabi din nila ay democratic sila!!! In short, ang supposedly foundation din ng Communism ay “democracy” or the government FOR, OF and BY the people. Walang pinag-iba maliban lang siguro sa implementation na mas malinaw kung nakasulat sa sulat intsik sa totoo lang na tawag namin dito ay “kanji.” Tignan mo na lang ang sitwasyon sa Pilipinas ngayon. Masasabi mo pa bang “democracy” o “democratic” na ang nasusunod lang ay ang gusto ni Tiyanak at ng mga boyfriend niya sa military.
Gosh, kinikilabutan ako sa kaalembungan ng unanong iyan kapag nagsasalitang kaharap iyong mga ginawa niyang heneral at sinasabi pa niyang mga boyfriend daw niya! Nakita mo ba iyong litrato niyang inaayos ni Assperon ang kuwelyo niya? Ang halay tignan! Buti hindi nagselos ang asawa ni Assperon!!! Ang tapalani talaga!!! 😛 ‘Kakasuka!
Iyong fairy baka anak niya at kinikiliti ang mga bayarang Internet Brigader nila. O baka si Madame Tariray na nga iyan na nagapapaalembong pa dito!
Malamang na tumpak ang sapantaha mo ystakei tungkol sa tunay na pagkatao nitong lambanang lipad ng lipad dito sa kuwarto ni Ate. Pansin ko lang kasi na tuwing mag-time-in yan dito, pulos dasal agad sa sinasamba niyang si benignBokya ang kaagad isisingit…hehehe benignBokya groupie ang lekat. 😀
At ikaw benignBokya, ayan ka na naman sa assumptions mo na mga ignoramuses at stupids ang mga taong hindi pa naka-mit o hindi nakakikilala ng Komunista. Then you must have already met or known one or few? Kasi kung hindi sagot mo, kakainin mo na naman ang suka mo niyan na parang aso? Now, kung ikaw naman ay hindi kabilang sa mga igno at stupidong sinasabi mo, dali at sagutin mo na ang itinatanong ko sa iyo. Sino at ano ang Komunista para ito’y isumpa at katakutan ng tulad mo benignBokya?
Diwata,
Ilang beses ko nang napatunayan ang magaling na si BenignO ay isa ngang bokya.Ilang beses na ring hindi makasagot nang maayos at ilang beses na ring walang sagot.Ang layunin lang niyan ay mang-uto.Ewan ko ba sa kabila ng kanyang kakayahan galing at husay (efficiency) ay wala rin siyang kasagutan sa mga nangyayari ngayon?Hindi mo ba kami napapansin na wala nang interes pang labanan ang isa nang talunan?Hayun masdan mo at patuloy pa rin ang sayaw niyang ocho-ocho.Naghahanap yan nang kapareha.Subukan mo.
Apoy,
Mali ang pang-intindi mo. Malinaw na ngang sinabi na ang partido ng mga komunista ay nakasulat sa capital C. Hindi ka komunista kung hindi ka naniniwala sa Komunismo. Ang hirap kasi sa mga pilipino, kung ano ang isinupalpal ng mga kano sa bibig nila kahit panis na, nginunguya pa rin.
I am not a Commie myself, nor do I embrace the tenets of Communism. I am a Socialist, which is different from being a Communist as a matter of fact, but as I have stated in response to Spartan, pare-pareho iyan claiming to be democratic!!!
I did not like Joma Sison myself nor the guy who was recruiting members for the newly organized Kabataang Makabayan when I was at UP, because I found them mouthing things they themselves did not seem to understand. Now, I am much wiser and can work and coordinate with them for better Philippines on my own terms especially when I do the financing of our projects for Filipinos in Japan.
After all these years of struggle, literally and figuratively, I see an honest to goodness dedicated lot with nothing but concern for their beloved Philippines compared to these Filipinos who still want to be called derogatorily as “little brown Filipinos.” At least, they have pride and substance!
My Japanese friends and I can work better with them than those Filipino members of some umbrella organization controlled by the Philippine Embassy we call “hakot” in Japan. When it comes to real charity and advocacy for Filipinos, wala silang binatbat. I can rely more on the people of Joma in Japan. Sila ang mga tunay na pilipino—willing and ready to die for their country, the Philippines, and for what they believe in!!!
At least, unlike Karl Marx, they have not renounced their faith in God. Nagsisimba pa rin sila! And that is good!
Filipinos should not confuse them with the tulisans pretending to be one of them hiding for their beliefs because people have not been wiser to interpret democracy the way it should be interpreted and implemented—a government FOR, OF and BY the people where everyone is free to even be communists as in the case of Japan where the Communists and Socialist do not pretend to be anything else, and still prove themselves as assets to the betterment of Japan. Iyan ang matalino at magaling!!!
Spartan:
Huwag ninyo nang pansinin ang mga inutil na iyan. Hindi ko sila binabasa. Minsan babae, minsan lalaki at madalas bakla pa nga ang dating. Nakalagay sila sa no-read list ko. Kapag nakilatis ko na, basura na sila para sa akin. Not worth pansinin.
Sabi nga ni Ellen, “C’est la vie!” Live and let live. Wala namang nakikinig sa kanila especially when it comes to the die-hard critics of the bogus president and bogus regime in this blog. Basta tira lang ng tira, kapatid! Magsasawa din iyan. Punta ka sa lahat ng fora ng mga pilipino, nandoon ang mga ungas under various pseudonyms kaya alam mong bayaran kasi they can blog anywhere straight 24 hours.
Bistado ko ang mga iyan because I own and moderate groups they have tried to invade. Madali ko silang ma-monitor when I own the blog or forum. Dito kay Ellen, siya lang ang may control, and I respect her for that kasi kaya naman niyang linisan ang mga basura nila.
Tira ng tira lang!!! OK ngarud!!!!
Ate Yuko,
Pasensiya ka na .Kung minsan ako ay tanga.Pero hindi ba mas masaklap ang sitwasyon ng mas TANGA kaysa akin?
ystakei… mina-san…
konnichiwa!!!
abay nasaan na ang mga ungasis na katunggali natin?
di na masagot sagot ang ating mga tanong…
akala mo kung bumato at mag label ng tao eh mga inquisitador nung panahon ng inquisition…
puro red baiting… puro witch hunting… pag ina argumento mo naman talo pa ang mga asong bahag ang buntot! akala cguro nila, magpapabilog tayo sa kanilang mga baseless accusation, baitings, etc etc…
mga walang binatbat… tanungin mo ng alternative di naman makabigay… paano bangkarote ang argumento… sa madaling salita… mga alipores ng mga pasista sa militar at malakanyang.
nakaka awa nga mga sundalo nating matitino, mga sundalong malilinis ang konsensya, mga sundalong nais tumulong sa masang pilipino… sana dumame pa ang mga namumulat na mga sundalong pilipino, sana marame pang sumunod sa tradisyun nina tagamolila, trillanes, faeldon, jarque…
sundalong pilipino… magmulat, paglingkuran ang mamamayan!!!
DSDC,
ang isang military asset, upang i-eliminate ay kailangang ‘yung hindi na pakikinabangan. at sa palagay mo, sino ang gagawa? ang kalaban?
kung tunay na AFP asset itong si gandinao, sa palagay mo ba idadawit o ididiin niya ang sandatahang lakas sa mga patayang nagaganap? bakit sa militar niya itutuon ang kanyang akusasyon sa pagpaslang sa kanyang ama?
sino ang tanga? baka ikaw.
“I think there will be international condemnation regarding the arrest of Rep. Satur Ocampo..”
Even before international condemnation, mustn’t there be national condemnation?
WE must not cling on to hopes that the international community will sing our songs when we cannot. We take pride in our being independent, yet, we cheer on whenever Uncle Sam meddles in our affairs.
Observer missions are okay. Even these international hearings are okay. But, only in the context of interdependence, and not total dependence.
Ka Satur may still have contacts with the NPA, but that does not make him an NPA, especially so, after he surfaced and went on with his struggles in the halls of Congress. He had, as he took his oath as representative, given up on extra-constitutional means to change the system. He may still be a communist symphatizer, but what’s wrong with that?
BenignO tried pointing out to the killings perpetrated by the NPA and tries to compare them with 838 people killed under Aling Gloria’s watch. It doesn’t have anything to do with numbers. It has everything to do with responsibilities.
The rebels are called rebels also because they see an armed struggle as one of the means to achieve their end. Government’s responsibility is to protect the lives of its people regardless of political convictions.
WE expect a government that will protect us from the guns of armed partisans. We should condemn government from being much the same as these armed cadres. Not only did the government fail, it even followed the examples of the group/s it is supposed to fight.
Rephrase ko lang yung last paragraph:
WE expect a government that will protect us from the guns of armed partisans. We should condemn government FOR being much the same as these armed cadres. Not only did the government fail, it even followed the examples of the group/s it is supposed to PROTECT US FROM.
To norpil:
“what do you think are the mistakes of the gma administration?”
among others, at random:
– First Gentleman Mike Arroyo
– appointment of retired military men to civilian positions
– the controversial EOs and PPs
– inconsistent economic policies
– failure to stop the insurgeny and rebellion
– poor tax collection
– failure to protect Pinoys from extra-judicial killings
– failure to increase the budget for education
– failure to carry out agrarian reform
– neglect of agriculture and tourism sectors
– failure to spur economic activity at the countryside
– failure to do an FVR – bring in more foreign direct investments
– failure to stop corruption
now you admit these are glaring facts about gloria’s inability and incapability to govern. why still stick and insist that she’s the country’s only hope and she’s far better than those she cheated in 2004?
no alternative capable leader? who said it?
Mrivera Says:
I agree w/ your comments (March 17th, 2007 at 5:45 pm).
& if I may add, there are capable leaders to lead this country – far better than Gloria. In EDSA 2, I viewed Gloria as a compromise & I felt then that a country should NEVER compromise a leader. That was the BIG mistake. Look where we are at today w/ her ? She has brought the Philippines into the back-entrance of the global community !
It is the people who make a leader. It should never be the other way around. If we, the people, show that we have had enough of all the dirt hounding our country – the opportunity being in the upcoming May elections – we will see the types of leaders who will crop up; it will improve. For now, if we continue w/ an “I am tired” attitude, wala talaga magyayari sa bansa. We should not & can not grow tired of bringing our nation into the fore-front. It is not done by a leader, but by the people. The power is w/ the people NOT the leader. Because of the “I am tired” attitude, we almost lost our democracy w/ Cha-Cha.
“now you admit these are glaring facts about gloria’s inability and incapability to govern. why still stick and insist that she’s the country’s only hope and she’s far better than those she cheated in 2004?”
at sino ba naman kasi ang nagsasabing pinupuri ko si GMA? pipupuri ko nga sya, IN COMPARISON WITH THE BEST OF THE ‘UNITED OPPOSITION’ HAS TO OFFER, na wala naman. yan kasi ang hirap sa inyo, di ko lang sinasabing “PATALSIKIN NA NOW NA” ass-kisser na kaagad.
just how good is the best (whoever he/she is) of what the united opposition has to offer as an alternative to GMA? he/she will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
ang hirap sa inyo, hanggang pagsipa kay GMA lang ang nakikita. Kelangang ang ipapalit sa kanya eh mas mahusay pa sa kanya. EH WALA NAMANG MAIPAKITANG MAS HUHUSAY PA KAY GMA.
Si Lacson sana, Kaso for whatever reason, he is not high profile among the ‘united opposition.’
HANGGANG ANG IGIGIIT PA RIN NG OPPOSITION AY SI ERAP PARA IPALIT KAY GMA, HAAY NAKU, STICK TO GMA NA LANG.
Raul Roco, Ping Lacson and Eddie Villanueva are the ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES outside of GMA, WHO ARE WORTHY TO LEAD THE PHILIPPINES.
FPJ could have been a guaranteed disaster for the Philippines. Buti na lang. Any one but FPJ!
Napaka-ambisyoso kasi. Wait, it should be “napakaambisyoso nung mga sumusulsol sa kanya. ” Nagparaya na lang sana sya kay Lacson, sana naging VP na lang sya ni Lacson. Eh alam kasi nilang di nila kayang paikutin si Lacson. Kaya FPJ sila, madaling paikutin eh.
Kaya ang may kasalanan sa pagkamatay ni FPJ – yung mga sumulsol sa kanyang tumakbo. ayaw naman talaga nyang tumakbo eh.
“no alternative leader? who said it?”
Those who abhor the
G-rand A-lliance of G-enuine O-pposition, which means JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY.
Ayaw ko ng T-U-T-A. Pero mas lalong ayaw ko ng G-A-G-O.
Cory, FVR, Erap – anybody can make a kilometric list of their mistakes. Si Erap at least, had a good shot at being a good president (si FPJ, wala).
Kahit si Dubya, pwedeng gawan ng long list of mistakes.
Yan ang downside ng demokrasya. we are stuck with the people we voted for in the duration of the term
Anthony Scalia, iba-iba ang ating mga kuro-kuro ukol sa kakayahan ng mga kandidato. Ganoon pa man, sa isang demokrasya ang pagpili ng ‘alternative leader’ ay hindi ipinapaubaya sa iilan kundi sa buong sambayanan. Ang pagkakamali ng mga nagsasabing walang ‘alternative leader’ ay aminado na nga silang nandaya si Arroyo, pero hanggang doon na lang. Malinaw na ang iyong panindigan ay mas-mainam pang mandaya si GMA basta lang hindi maupo sa pagka-Presidente si FPJ. Sana maliwanagan ka na hindi demokrasya ang tawag diyan sa paniniwala mo.
“HANGGANG ANG IGIGIIT PA RIN NG OPPOSITION AY SI ERAP PARA IPALIT KAY GMA, HAAY NAKU, STICK TO GMA NA LANG.”
sino ba ang naggigiit kay erap? ikaw lang naman dahil ayaw mo ngang mapalitan si gloria kahit siguro lahat ng nasa paligid mong nagsasawa na sa kanyang kasinungalingan ay pinaghuhuli na dahil sa bintang na destabilayser at/o terorista.
sino rin ba ang nagpipilit na sa oposisyon manggagaling ang alternatibong mamumuno? ikaw lang din. hindi mo naiisip na baka ang sinasabing alternatibong nararapat na ipalit ay IKAW. sey mo, atse? hmmm.
gumising ka na nga tita.
In 2004, I voted for Roco even knowing that he did not stand a chance at winning. GMA was proclaimed while everybody in our part of the globe were asleep. At that point, I told myself that I would be duty-bound to support her. Had FPJ been proclaimed, I would also have been duty-bound to support him. That, to my simple mind, was how democracy worked.
After “Hello Garci” surfaced, I expected, even wanted, GMA to prove that the controversy was a farce. All she came up with was the unconvincing, infamous “I am sorry” speech. All her defenders came up with were two CDs saying one was fake and the other was “doctored”.
Here is a “president” who is/was allegedly stealing the nation’s wealth just like most of those who came before her. That, I can still forgive. Now, here is a “president” who allegedly stole the nation’s soul from the ballot boxes, and everytime she’s given the chance to prove otherwise, she always comes short (pun intended)? I say, take my money, but do not take my soul!
Money lost can still be earned. Once the nation is robbed of its soul, all aspirations go with it…
Ka Enchong, maaaring pinalagpas ng mga tao ang pag-agaw ng puwesto ni tiyanak kay Erap kung hindi siya nandaya noong 2004. At maaari din palagpasin ng mga tao ang kanyang pandaraya noong 2004 kung simula noon ay pawang kabutihan at tulong ang ginawa niya sa mga tao. Pero hindi. Nandaya na nga, lalong lumala pa. Paano siya ngayon patatawarin ng mga tao? Kahit na sa libingan na siya, baka duduraan at tatadyakan ng mga tao ang kanyang nitso.
“I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
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Welcome to hell kabayans!
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Yes, we’re probably experiencing hell now. But, we should not stop aspiring for heaven. Sixty years, even a century of hell, as long as we get to a Philippine-made heaven.
Art:
“Kahit na sa libingan na siya, baka duduraan at tatadyakan ng mga tao ang kanyang nitso.”
Limampiso bawat dura, smpumpiso bawat tadyak? Kikita yan, hehehe.
and that “soul” is the dream and hope of every filipino.
and how can this “soul” finds peace in its resting place if the culprit, the cheat president is still large, enjoying all the immunity her stolen office provides her with so many people around turning blind eyes in all her wrongdoings? people who are saying it is better to trust the cheat than anyone who they don’t like to occupy the malacanan palace?
Ka Enchong, sobra na ang pagkamuhi ng mga tao kay tiyanak. Kapag makita ko nga siya, ibubuka ko ng husto ang kanyang bunganga at dudukutin ang kanyang dila at gilagid. Nabasa mo ba ang komento ni Donald Trump? Sabi niya si Bush daw ang pinakamasamang presidente ng US. Ang sabi ko naman, si tiyanak ang pinakamasamang presidente ng Pilipinas.
To CVJ:
“Malinaw na ang iyong panindigan ay mas-mainam pang mandaya si GMA basta lang hindi maupo sa pagka-Presidente si FPJ”
isang paki-usap – paki cut and paste lang ang statement ko, from my previou spost, to the effect na mas mainam pang mandaya si GMA kaysa manalo si FPJ.
“Ganoon pa man, sa isang demokrasya ang pagpili ng ‘alternative leader’ ay hindi ipinapaubaya sa iilan kundi sa buong sambayanan”
Tutoo. Wait till 2010.
NOTE – ang pag-mention ko ng ‘alternative’ sa post ko ay related lamang sa alleged na ‘pagpupuri’ ko kay GMA ayon kay Mrivera. Sabi ko na kung napuri ko man si GMA (at alam kong wala akong pagpuri sa kanya) ay in comparison with the ‘united opposition’
“Sana maliwanagan ka na hindi demokrasya ang tawag diyan sa paniniwala mo”
Sana maliwanagan ka rin na that’s an unfair statement. If you can make the cut-and paste I requested, then maybe you can say that.
‘Buti na lang’ pertains to the result, not to the process. ‘Any one but FPJ!’ is more of a sentiment.
So uulitin ko uli ang paki-usap ko – paki-cut-and-paste ang statement ko from my previous post na sinasabi kong Ok for GMA to cheat basta wag lang uupo si FPJ.
Its clear maka-FPJ ka ano? I campaigned for Eddie Villanueva, a much more capable and deserving candidate.
You can say that GMA cheated, but it cannot be said that FPJ was cheated out of first place. All the rest of the candidates were cheated. FPJ cannot declare that he was the legitimate winner. The winner could have been Roco, Lacson, or Villanueva – independent, capable candidates. They are their own men. Not pawns.
No one can say who really won in 2004. Pero i believe Villanueva got more votes than FPJ.
Gusto mong malaman ano ang gusto ng nakararami? Marami ang ayaw kay FPJ. Pagsama-samahin mo ang boto nina GMA, Roco, Lacsom, Villanueva, ganun karami ang may ayaw kay FPJ. More than 2/3 of the population!
Kaya ganun na lang ang kawalan ng simpatiya ng taong-bayan kay FPJ sa election protest nito. Lalo na nung pumutok ang “Hello Garci.”
Pero admittedly, suwerte si GMA dahil nabulilyaso ng ‘united opposition’ ang “Hello Garci.”
Bakit kaya ang epekto nung “Hello Garci” ay hindi katulad ng epekto ng “refusal to open the envelope” during Erap’s impeachment?
Palagi nang isinisigaw ang “legitimacy issue” ni GMA pero bakit wala pa ring mga tao sa kalye? Nasaan na ang ‘parliament of the streets’?
Kung marami sa G-A-G-O ang mananalo sa Senado, it shows na ayaw na ng tao ng ‘people power’ at idaan na lang sa balota ang pag-ayaw kay GMA.
“Limampiso bawat dura, smpumpiso bawat tadyak? Kikita yan, hehehe.”
ka enchong, kamahal naman. kahit nga sampera hindi katumbas ng alinmang gagawin sa libing ni gloria dahil nawalan na siya ng silbi at halaga bunga ng walang pangalawang kawalanghiyaang ginawa niya.
at saka bakit pa ililibing? hayaan na lamang nakakalat ang bangkay sa basurahan para naman merong kainin ang mga asong gala at mga dagang estero.
“gumising ka na nga tita”
matagal na akong gising, Mareng Rivera. thank you. baka ikaw ang di pa gising
“sino rin ba ang nagpipilit na sa oposisyon manggagaling ang alternatibong mamumuno? ikaw lang din. hindi mo naiisip na baka ang sinasabing alternatibong nararapat na ipalit ay IKAW. sey mo, atse? hmmm”
ako? why not? basta huwag lang ikaw
TO ALL BLOGGERS HERE – I GOT THE ENDORSEMENT OF MARENG RIVERA TO BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY! YEHEY!
(ahaay! because of Mareng Rivera’s endorsement, all voters-members of Ladlad will also vote for me. yehey!)
Mang Rivera, paki sabi muna kay Ka Enchong na palitan niya ang kayang pangalan. Parang Ka Echos ang pandinig ko. Tama ka, sayang kahit singko ang ibibigay kay tiyanak. Pero dahil sa nilalang din siya ng Diyos, dapat ay ililibing din siya, kaya lang hindi patihaya siya sa kabaon, dapat face down (naubusan na yata ako ng Tagalog). Dahil kapag makita ng mga multo ang mukha niyang patay, baka matakot ang mga multo sa sementeryo.
kitamokitako:
March 17th, 2007 at 7:19 am
“I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
2007 na ngayon!!ngayon!!! ngayon!!!
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Okay lang siguro na manirahan sa mayamang bansa, pero hindi ang America ang solusyon para umangat ang Pilipinas. Mahirap tanggapin ang ugit ang kasaysayan… subalit America ang nagpahirap at kasalukuyang gumagahasa kay Inang Pilipinas.
RE: “I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans” — Manuel L. Quezon
“Welcome to hell kabayans!”
Look what’s happening in our country run Filipinos like hell! The elites like Gloria Arroyo and her cronies are sucking the nation’s treasury dry.
*The Philippines under Gloria Arroyo is the most corrupt in Asia.
* Philippines the second most dangerous place for journalist next to Iraq.
*Criminality and political killings keep rising and out of control.
* Extreme poverty and hungry. Instant noodles over saturated of water have become a basic full meal for many poor families. Gloria Arroyo administration insists that 36 pesos a day is enough to provide for the daily basic food and non-food needs of every Filipino.
* The exodus of Filipino workers by the thousands daily. Why? Bakit? Apay?
These all happened under Gloria Arroyo of six years illegitimate presidency. It’s really hell the way Filipino elites are ruining our nation. Pres. Manuel L. Quezon was originally an advocate of Philippine statehood USA. He later switched his stand into independence for political survival because statehood was not popular in the U.S. Congress and among the American business elites at that time. The US Congress rejected Philippine statehood and granted full independence in 1946 with semi-colonial strings attached.
GSTC:
March 16th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
I AM a lil brown american. And proud of it!
******
Sinong lahing kayumanggi ang di maluluha, sinong Rizal, Bonifacio, Gomburza ang di maluluha sa ganitong uri ng kaisipan.
Tilamsik,
GTSC also goes by the name Rizalist, quite ironic ‘di ba?
Tilamsik Says:
GSTC:
March 16th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
I AM a lil brown american. And proud of it!
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Tilamsik, there are many types of americans:
1. coconut – brown on the outside, white on the inside
2. powdered sugar donut – kaunting hihip ng hangin tanggal na ang white coating at labas ang brown essence
3. chocolate donut – brown on the outside, brown on the
inside
4. marshmallow – white on the outside, white on the inside – walang matigas, no backbone
5. jellyfish – transparently white pero lintik naman ang mga galamay
Do you know that type GSTC belongs??
On Filipinos being “Little Brown Americans” : Okey lang yan-
KUNG papayag din ang mga Kanong tawagin silang “Big White Filipinos”.
He, He, He! Pinutol ni Ellen mga daliri ko! Siguro malaking libel yung isinulat ko kong na-publish ‘yon! Kaya sorry na, Ellen!
For the meantime, kalma lang muna ako at makibasa sa mainitang diskusyon dito! Bilib ako ke Art..See mo kaagad mga kapalpakan dito! Keep watch, Artsse!
OOOOPs, Artsee, wrong spelling ang name mo…kita mo ba?
Sinadya mo Ate Elvira. Baka maging Artseng. Saan ka ba? Nasa may Sahara Desert?
Antonio,talagang sutil ka ano?Papano mo naging ninang si Mrivera? Kumpare ko iyan at katagay-tagay ko ng tanduay.Lawitan iyan.baka hindi mo alam at malalim ang tinutumbok na minahan niyan.Ikaw lang baka madiskarel iyang gulong mo sa relis at gigiwang-giwang.
anthony scalia at march 16, 10:29 pm says:
“… Don’t worry, walang maga-attempt to assasinate you. Don’t flatter yourselves about being assasination targets”.
my comment:
in behalf of other bloggers, i say: thank you, anthony scalia, thank you for sparing our lives. btw, are you engaged in the business of drawing a list of those who got to live a LITTLE LONGER and those who end-up being ASSASINATION TARGETS ?
Zen2:
You are ringing my bell,do you have the same previous number?
Wala naman pong problema kung ang mabuhay ng matiwsay ay sa bansang Amerika. Masarap at makatas ang mansanas sa California, malinamnam ang chokolate. Ang mundo ay para sa lahat. But let us not forget our “roots”. Huwag nating patayin sa ating kaisipan na ang dugong nananalaytay sa ating mga ugat ay dugong Pinoy. Di ko po masisi kung dismayado na ang ating mga kababayan sa political trend natin ngayon, subalit hindi po solusyon ang pag basura sa lahing Pilipino. Salamat Edjop, salamat Dr. Bob Delapaz, salamat Makliing Dulag, salamat Liliosa, salamat Lorena at maraming salamat sa iyo Ninoy.
I am a Pilipino, I am proud of it.
Eto po, ang cut and paste:
“To the effect”, right?
Tilamsik:
Ise ka lang kaibigan,walang lasa ang mansanas dito,hindi matamis ang chocolate.Ang hinahanap namin ay mangang Zambales at panutsa na gawa sa libis.
“Mang Rivera, paki sabi muna kay Ka Enchong na palitan niya ang kayang pangalan. Parang Ka Echos ang pandinig ko. Tama ka, sayang kahit singko ang ibibigay kay tiyanak. Pero dahil sa nilalang din siya ng Diyos, dapat ay ililibing din siya, kaya lang hindi patihaya siya sa kabaon, dapat face down (naubusan na yata ako ng Tagalog). Dahil kapag makita ng mga multo ang mukha niyang patay, baka matakot ang mga multo sa sementeryo.”
Art:
Para madali, ganito na lang: Kain, ‘tsong!
SA dami nating may tampo (understatement po ito) kay Aling Gloria, baka superhaba ang pila ng mga taong gustong makadura man lang sa rebulto niya. Hindi ka ba magbabayad para mauna sa pila? Joke, joke, joke!
artsee,
face down – nakataob.
maawain at makadiyos ka rin pala. gusto mo pang mailibing kapag namatay si gloria. kusabagay, tama ka. dahil baka magkatawang aso kung ang bangkay niya ay lapain ng mga asong gala.
pareng cocoy,
hayaan mo na ‘yang si mareng antonina. may date kami mamaya sa ballroom dancing. subukan naming magpartner. bading sa bading. tuturuan ko siya ng sayaw na shiho nage tenkan at shidori.
Magaling na naman ang mga sugat,bukol at bali-baling buto ni Antonio at naghahamon na naman. Spartan, dapat tinuluyan mo na ito.Ngayon gustong ru-mesbak!
Apoy:
Manong,mukhang may gusto na namang makipagtursehan,ah! Agtarayin na ni Benigno,sumulpot na naman itong si Tonio.Manong,haan mabalin iyan at ipakitam ki Tonio na iyan kung gaano kalakas ang pulso ng mga Ilocano.
hayaan n’yo munang mag-ballroom dancing kami. tingnan ko kung matutuhan niya ang shiho nage tenkan at shidori. sasamahan ko pa ng kata tori ikkyo kote gaeshi sankyo tenkan para makilala niya kung sino ang bading sa amin.
re benign0 said on March 16th, 2007 at 6:44 am and March 16th, 2007 at 6:45 am
may binanggit si Francis Fukuyama tungkol kay Hegel, may ideya kaba?
Pag-aaralan ko muna kung ano dahilan bakit ayaw pasapaw ng mga Espanyol sa mga Dutch.
Dun sa mga lilbrawn-amboy, pagdating nila sa call center, one step ahead agad sila. TL’s o Bisor agad ang pwesto nila.
Baka kung nuong panahon ni Marcos, kapag sinabi mo na may pagkiling ka sa Malaysia-Indonesia baka sabihin ay traydor ka!
Mrivera Says:
March 18th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
artsee,
face down – nakataob.
Mang Rivera, salamat. Nawala sa isip ko ang tamang salita. Ang nasa isip ko iyon nakadapa, nakatuwad…iyon bang dog style.
To zen2:
“in behalf of other bloggers, i say: thank you, anthony scalia, thank you for sparing our lives.”
welcome. be glad to help
btw, are you engaged in the business of drawing a list of those who got to live a LITTLE LONGER and those who end-up being ASSASINATION TARGETS?
no, but we can start one, if you like
just remember – don’t flatter yourselves to be assassination targets
i would like to have Philippines run like HEAVEN by HONEST politicians than Philippines run like HELL by CROOKS , CORRUPT, ABUSIVE and SELF SERVING politicians.
Nakakatawa din talaga ang mga nagsisisulputang mga pangalan dito. Meroon tayong hindinapinoy at ngayon naman penoyko. Ang sarap ng balut penoy.
Hi Artsee:
sa pamamagitan ninyong mga kapwang may tunay na pagmamalasakit sa ating inang bayan, nagkakaroon pa rin ako ng pagasang tuluyang maging sisiw!
Huwag mong isipin na isa kang sisiw. Para sa amin isa kang manok na pang sabong. Isasabong ka namin sa mga kampo ni tiyanak.
To cvj:
“To the effect”, right?”
Right, to the effect.
So what’s your point?
schumey, is it true that GSDC also uses the handle name Rizalist? But act like benignBokya, huh. What a mockery.
apoy, wala na ayaw ko na patulan iyang nilalang na sinasabi mo, talo tayo diyan wala tayong trophy na makukuha. Ayan at kita mo naman ang mga latest postings niyan, sa pula sa puti na ang dating, parang hindi parang oo na. Hindi naman daw niya ipinagtatanggol si gloria gilagid, mga ibang tao pa ang sinisi na inaalipusta siyang maka-gloria eh hindi naman nga daw. Sabihan ka pang hindi ka marunong umintindi, eh papano mo nga maiintindihan ang isang bagay na singlabo ng isang taong hindi niya mismo alam kung ano siya talaga? hehehe, gets mo na siguro kapatid na apoy? 😉
follow up ko lang dun sa posting ko kahapon:
March 18th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
nuong panahon ng World War II, nagkataon lang na niyakap ng PARTISANS ni Josep Broz Tito ang ideya ng sosyalismo dahil ang tunay na mithiin nila ay pag-isahin ang buong nasasakupan ng South Slavs.
Pero ang totoo nyan ay kaisa sila ng Chetniks upang itaboy ang mga pwersa ng dayuhan sa bansa nila.
Ganon din dito sa South East Asia, ang mga Vietnamese itinaboy nila ang pwersa ng French at Americans.
Ang mga Indones naman ay ang mga Olandes.
Samantalang ang Malayan Union naman ay naging inspirasyon sa kanila ang British India, Nehru at si Ali Jinah.
Ang ipinagtataka ko lang dito sa mga little brown brothers (daw sila); ay hindi nila maipinta kung ano, saan at papaano nagsimula ang ABN-AMRO at ING bank ng Netherlands.
Isa itong inspirasyon kung saan man may FIL-AM diaspora na nagbibi-bida na sila daw ang nagtataguyod ng FILIPINO PRIDE! Bakit hindi kaya sila gumawa ng sariling bansa dyan mismo sa Mainland America?
Makikita nyo naman ang mga British sa Africa, lalo na katimugang bahagi ng nasabing kontinente na kung saan ay aktibo pa rin sila.
Kung ang mga Aleman ay nagkaroon ng Kaiser-Wilhelmsland , ano naman kaya ang sa Pilipinas?
Little Baclaran, Little Quiapo, Little Divisoria? o Bahay Kubo?
Ang pagkaka-alam ko sa Singapore ay mayroon silang Little India at pwedeng i-trade ang currency ng Brunei duon pero ang Peso ay hindi.
Sa palagay ko pwede ang mga Pilipino sa ibang bansa na magkaroon ng sariling FINANCIAL SYSTEM sa pamamagitan ng pahulugan, paluwagan, 5-6(original ito sa mga Bumbay), sanglaan o pautang(loan business).
Itong huling nabanggit ko na loan business ay uso yan sa mga opisina, na kung saan ang inutang na halaga ay may interes na 15%.
Payable in two gives, 15th-30th of payday(o tuwing sweldo) or payable in 1 Month provided it satisfy the 15% interest.
i.e., 1000 pesos amount of loan is 850 (payable in 2 sets of 500 in each payday).
just sharing…
anthony, no use playing dumb. you were the one who asked for the ‘cut and paste’.
To cvj:
hey hey hey, the great cvj, is now using ad hominems! at least ‘playing’ tempered it!
im not playing dumb. let me toot my own horn – im not dumb either
i even agreed to your “to the effect, right?”
im just asking what’s your point, because i don’t see it.
anyway, to cut to the chase – what you cut-and-pasted doesn’t support your speculation that “Malinaw na ang iyong panindigan ay mas-mainam pang mandaya si GMA basta lang hindi maupo sa pagka-Presidente si FPJ”
eh hindi nga malinaw. mas malabo pa sa Pasig River
lets cut-and-paste that:
“You know what? In 2004, I campaigned for Eddie Villanueva. We were already aware of the dirty tricks up her sleeves. We were resigned to the fact na our candidate did not lose fairly.”
“We just consoled ourselves na basta huwag lang manalo si FPJ, ok na. Buti na lang that’s what happened”
to support that speculation, you have to put more into what was written by me.
ako naman ang magka-cut-and-paste. sabi ko ‘Buti na lang’ pertains to the result, not to the process. ‘Any one but FPJ!’ is more of a sentiment.”
buti na lang ang official result, ang nakaupo sa malacanang ay di si FPJ. di ko naman sinabing dayain na, wag lang si FPJ. Bro. Eddie losing already hurt, but it could be soothed just a bit if FPJ doesnt win.
the statement you cut-and-paste can also mean na pinalampas na lang namin ang pagdaya kay Bro. Eddie basta wag lang si FPJ ang manalo – ito na lang siguro ang punto mo, kasi medyo malapit pa sa “Malinaw na ang iyong panindigan ay mas-mainam pang mandaya si GMA basta lang hindi maupo sa pagka-Presidente si FPJ.” Kung ganyan, i’ll agree na “…mas-mainam pang mandaya si GMA basta lang hindi maupo sa pagka-Presidente si FPJ” That’s the sentiment of all who voted for Roco, Villanueva and Lacson. Siyempre GMA supporters will say na di sya nandaya.
Ang dinaya out of the presidency ay si Bro. Eddie, hindi si FPJ!
sentiment of all? Sigurado ka? Mayroon pa rin namang nakakaintindi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng tunay na demokrasya. It is clear from your convoluted rationalization above that you’re not one of them.
Anong siyempre? GMA supporter ako noon pero malinaw sa akin na nandaya siya.
To cvj:
“sentiment of all? Sigurado ka?”
Yes, siguradong sigurado. That also explains why the “Hello Garci” affair went pfft and did not have the same effect as the refusal to open the envelope during the erap impeachment
“Mayroon pa rin namang nakakaintindi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng tunay na demokrasya. It is clear from your convoluted rationalization above that you’re not one of them”
too bad cvj, you’re using ad hominems now. sorry to disappoint you, but im still a believer in democracy.
in case you are thinking that i would, in the open, even encourage cheating, you’re dead wrong, as dead wrong as your speculation that i have convoluted rationalization.
if (we) non-FPJ voters chose to look the other way on the cheating of GMA, you can’t blame them (us), that’s their right. Its the continuation of what they wrote on the ballot. YAN ANG TUNAY NA DEMOKRASYA.
(oh dear, i can smell the usual pontifications and motherhood statements coming my way. isa na dyan ang “the only way for evil to prevail is for good to do nothing”)
Baka ikaw ang hindi nakakaintindi ng demokrasya – MORE THAN HALF OF PINOYS AYAW KAY FPJ!
BAKA YOU DIDNT REALIZE – I WAS JUST EXPRESSING AN OPINION. PORKE BA KAIBA SA IYO, CONVOLUTED RATIONALIZATION NA, DI NA NANINIWALA SA DEMOKRASYA. Come on get real cvj.
EVEN “CONVOLUTED REASONINGS” DESERVE SPACE IN DEMOCRACY’S FREE-MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS. Oh, they’re a dime a dozen in this blog.
Since you want so suppress a “convoluted rationalization” YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS NOT A BELIEVER IN DEMOCRACY.
I HAVE TO TOLERATE YSTAKEI, ANNA DE BRUX, SPARTAN, FLORRY, ARTSEE, NELBAR, COCOY, MRIVERA BECAUSE WE ARE IN A DEMOCRACY. I CAN FREELY FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHT TO SAY THEIR OPINIONS.
MALINAW SA POST MO, DI MO KAYANG IPAGLABAN ANG KARAPATAN KO TO SAY “BUTI NA LANG TALO SI FPJ.”
PERO READY KA TO DEFEND THE FREE EXPRESSIONS OF TIANAK, BABOY, ASS, CORRUPTER, PANGIT, ETC.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking that FPJ won in 2004. That’s the slogan of the ‘united opposition’
You can make a case that GMA cheated, but you can never make a case that FPJ won.
“Anong siyempre? GMA supporter ako noon pero malinaw sa akin na nandaya siya”
GMA supporter ka NOON. Ask the likes of Alex Magno and Solita Monsod NGAYON.
Saka malinaw ang pandaraya nya ay sa winning margin, not on the outcome. Meaning, kahti di sya nandaya, panalo pa rin sya.
IF YOU REALLY DESIRE TRUTH, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE “HELLO GARCI” TAPES, AND NOT JUST THE ADULTERATED VERSION OF ALAN PAGUIA.
Hirap sa yo you fell for the rhetoric of the ‘united opposition’
Wake up cvj. 2004 wasnt the first time cheating happened.
But i can understand the righteous indignation you feel.
cvj:
ang tawag dyan, EXTREMISM for, of, by GMA supporter!
lunacy of gloria pidal supporter!
re-affirmation of EDSA Dos!
maski naman sa school, kapag nangodiko ka? singko o failing grade ang makukuha mo.
noong may subject ako ng PE(Group Games), at dyan sa Old Manuela kami naglalaro ng duckpin.
Sinubukan ko na lokohin ang laro o kilala sa tawag na ‘laro na nilalaro pa’.
binigyan ako ng final grade na singko ng PE instructor ko.
“ang tawag dyan, EXTREMISM for, of, by GMA supporter!
lunacy of gloria pidal supporter!
re-affirmation of EDSA Dos!”
Yan naman – ramblings of an Erap supporter desperately looking for the return of the good ‘ol days
Talagang dapat ire-affirm ang EDSA Dos at gunitain ang pagkasipa kay Erap ng taong bayan!
anthony, that’s not ad hominem, it’s basic definition of terms. you cannot say that you believe in democracy if you tolerate cheating during elections. it’s as simple and straightforward as nelbar’s analogy.
“you cannot say that you believe in democracy if you tolerate cheating during elections. it’s as simple and straightforward as nelbar’s analogy”
thats your view. we are in a democracy, so i have to respect your view that toleration of cheating (by not complaining about it before the proper authorities) is incompatible with democracy.
its too bad that for you the majority of the population who did not vote for FPJ and would not lift a finger on the cheating are no believers in democracy. but thats your belief, and i have to fight for your right to express it.
ah yes, you are correct. ‘convoluted’ is not an ad hominem. i stand corrected. i should even be flattered that you attributed a ‘convoluted rationalization’ to me.
dito nya lang natutunan ang salitang “internet sa nairobi”.
ibig sabihin mas naaliw sya dito sa blog ni ellen na makipag-away imbes na makipagbigayan ng opinyon at kuro-kuro.
ayan ang nagdala dito ng ideya ng pakikipag-away sa blog ni ellen.
kilala ko ang mga bakas ng mga sapatos nya!