Sa interview ni Cesar Montano kay Nini Valera sinabi niya na Malacañang ang aako ng lahat na gastos niya sa kampanya. Sinabi rin ni Montano na marami rin raw na kaibigan ang magaabuloy sa kanyang kumpanya.
Ang ibig sabihin lang nito ay wala siyang sariling gagastusin. Manalo man o matalo, wala siyang lugi.
Kaya ang sinabi nilang P30 milyon na mga TV roles at commercials na mawawala kay Montano ay mababawi niya sa ibibigay ng Malacañang. Kung wise siya, kikita pa siya.
Sigurado akong ito ang pinamalaking hatak ng Malacañang sa mga napapayag nilang kumandidato sa Team GMA. Lalo pa sina Recto, Joker Arroyo, Tito Sotto, Tessie Oreta.
Malaking bagay yan. Aabot raw ng P250 milyon ang gagastusin ng isang kandidato sa pagka-senador kasama na doon ang pag-upa ng helicopter at eroplano sa pangangampanya. Biro mo sasabihan kang libre lahat yun. Sino naman ang hindi papayag.
Wala naman mawawala sa kanila kungdi hiya at respeto. Kung wala naman silang hiya, at hindi naman talaga silang nire-respeto, walang mawawala sa kanila.
Samantalang sa oposisyon, sariling kayod. Simula pa lang hirap na hirap na ang GO (Genuine Opposition) sa pera. Siyempre naman kung hindi ka naman magnanakaw, saan ka nga naman kukuha ng limpak-limpak na salapi na gagastusin.
Lalo pa ngayon na binabalaan ni Gloria Aroyo ang mga negosyante na huwag tumulong sa oposisyon.
Malamang na ang pera na pinamimigay ni Arroyo sa mga kandidato ay pera ng taumbayan na kanyang ninanakaw. Sino naman ang maniwala na pera niya yun.
Kaya kung sino man tumanggap ng pera kay Arroyo para sa kanilang kampanya ay kasama na rin sa pagnanakaw sa taumbayan. Walang pinag-iba sa isang magnanakaw na magulang na pinakakain ang kanyang mga anak ng kanyang pinagnakawan.
Kung ano man ang sinasabi ng mga kandidato ni Gloria na paglilingkod sa byan, wala yun. Katulong sila sa paghuthut ng kaban ng bayan.
Kaya kahanga-hanga si Sonny Trillanes. Inalok siya ng isang jueteng lord sa central Kuzon g P4 milyon. Tinanggihan niya kahit na hirap na hirap siya sa kanyang panggastos sa kanyang kampanya.
Siyempre naman alam natin ang kapalit noon. Hindi mo maa-aring ihinto jueteng.
Ang pag-asa lang talaga ng mga oposisyon ay ang suporta ng taumbayan. Huwag magpadala sa TV ads at sa mga dami ng nakapaskel na political ads sa mga pader.
Tanggapin lang ang pera na pinamumudmud ngunit huwag botohin ang mga nagnanakaw ng pera ng taumbayan.
Kung gusto natin maayos na pagpatakbo ng gobierno, magsimula tayo sa ating sarili. Huwag bomoto ng magnanakaw at kakampi ng magnanakaw.
“Wala naman mawawala sa kanila kungdi hiya at respeto. Kung wala naman silang hiya, at hindi naman talaga silang nire-respeto, walang mawawala sa kanila.”
Talaga ! It takes a thick-faced person to even think of running under Team Gloria. Only the mentally challenged, those w/ absolutely no intergrity whatsoever to be near the kiss of death.
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“..binabalaan ni Gloria Aroyo ang mga negosyante na huwag tumulong sa oposisyon.”
These businessmen should be more scared of people boycotting their products / services !!! Katulad ng RFM, dapat i-boycott yan. Si Joey Concepcion ay Presidential Adviser ng Enterpreneurship.
Just a question. Is there no limit to the spendings of these candidates during election? Over in Japan, there is, and no government fund is allowed to be used for anybody’s campaign, not even the campaign of the ruling party. All spendings are paid for by the parties sponsoring a candidate, and they are supposed to come from their own funds, not from the government coffers.
Any violation will mean disqualification and imprisonment. It is the same practice in other progressive societies like UK, etc. Why is the Philippines still backward about elections? Tapos ang yabang! Ipinagmamalaki pa ang mga titulo kuno, palpak naman. Baka binayaran lang ang mga titser kaya napasa! Aba e, sanay na sanay sa lagayan! Pwe! 🙁
Ellen,
Again and again I say, Gloria’s policy for is Bastusan politics. And look at all her senatorial team: if they’re not boneheads, they’re stinking crapheads.
Gloria is the single biggest (or dwarfest depending on how one looks at her) issue this nation has been facing this last 6 years. Bloody long time too.
Gloria Arroyo is a thief, a cheat, a liar and what is gobsmacking in the extreme is she’s proud of it too! Holy frigging crap! The woman is simply shameless!
Besides Gloria Mandaraya, who on earth today can boast of possessing the same characteristics, personal traits, immoral substance in one little pungent creature who styles herself president?
I’ll tell you: Robert Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe, the leader of an African nation which used to be the richest, most developed nation in Africa (Rhodesia), once the bread basin of Africa now wallowing in extreme corruption, poverty and crime. Thrashed by his peers abroad, with not an iota of credibility…
Robert Mugabe and Gloria Macapagal Arroyo are very much alike. They both stink, they’re absolutely corrupt and they are taking their nations to the brink of self-destruction.
Why can’t Gloria DIRTY DOZEN (Team disUnity) see that? Why? Coz they are equally corrupt…
Over in China, walang gastos ang mga kandidato kasi wala naman mangahas na kumandidato. Pero tama, dapat may limit ang pondo sa kampanya. Ang problema sino at paano mamomonitor iyan? Kung mismong halalan at pagbilang ng boto dinadaya, iyon pang pondo ng kandidato. Isa pa, maraming donors ang ayaw magpakilala lalo na ang mga gambling lords. Magandang tanong pero parang tinatanong natin kung paano magiging puti ang uwak at kung paano lalamig ang araw.
“Kaya kahanga-hanga si Sonny Trillanes. Inalok siya ng isang jueteng lord sa central Kuzon g P4 milyon. Tinanggihan niya kahit na hirap na hirap siya sa kanyang panggastos sa kanyang kampanya.”
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Ellen,
Higit na mabuti at tama kung mananalo ang UNO candidates ng walang gaanong contributions galing sa mga negosyante. Nakakasiguro tayo na sila ay hindi nakatali sa gusto ng mga negosyante at hindi sila mapupwersang sumunod sa MBC.
Kung ang mga negosyante ay takot sa mag-asawang Pidal ay problema nila ‘yon, puro mga pansariling interes din lang ng bulsa ang kayod nila. Magsama sila ni Unano hanggang sa hukay. Lahat ay may katapusan, lalo na at sobrang takot na ang nararamdaman ng mga Pidal sa UNO candidates. Pwede bang habangbuhay na makakagalaw si bansot?!
GO SONNY TRILLANES GO! GO SONNY GO! Pinabilib mo ako sa iyong paninindigan na tanggihan ang P4M buhat sa jueteng lord. Ang mga tulad mo ang kailangan ng bagong henerasyon ng pinoy! Mabuhay ka!
Just read this Ellen: “Journalist slain in Mindanao”
Real pity! Would have celebrated had this news item been all about Gloria…
PV,
Mugabe, Pidal. Pareho ngang mabantot and dating! The sounds names alone are rotten to the core!
artsee,
“Magandang tanong pero parang tinatanong natin kung paano magiging puti ang uwak at kung paano lalamig ang araw.”
This is like para na rin nating tinanong kung paano magiging 5 ft tall (barefoot) si bansot at kung paano puputi ang kanyang itim na budhi!
Limit to election spending? Itanong sa bulaklak ng katuray!
“Journalist slain in Mindanao”
PV,
I guess that there would be no end to killing in Pinas as long as the Unano is dancing Boom Tarat Tarat Boom Korap!
And because it’s election period, marami pang totodasin or matotodas!
Ate Chiz, salamat sa pag sang-ayon mo. Hindi sa kinakalaban natin si Ate Japyuks, medyo wala sa timing ang tanong niya. Hindi na nga dapat itanong iyan. Maaaring puwede sa ibang bansa pero sa Pilipinas? Itanong na lang iyan sa mga Marino!
Chi,
I’ve always been for a democratic form of government, with proper elections, ideally, a government run by people who know and practice what GOOD governance is all about.
But only 6 years after this horrible cow of a woman who likes to call herself president, the country is already one of the most unbelievably corrupt and badly governed nations in the world. Can you imagine what the nation would be like in 4 years?
Honestly, if Pinas has to wait 3 or 4 more years before this Gloria cow leaves, Pinas will find itself on the same level as Haiti, Sierra Leone and some of those West African countries where LIFE absolutely costs virtually nothing.
The country is FALLING APART every day!
It’s time Filipinos became less shy and did something more surgical – FREE General Lim, Col Ariel Querubin and the other officers incarcerated – they.
It’s time Filipinos became less shy and did something more surgical – HELP FREE General Lim, Col Ariel Querubin and the other incarcerated officers – they might be able to help sort out this miserable country ruled by the biggest, most corrupt bunch of Pinoy pigs!
PV,
Exactly, “The country is FALLING APART every day!”
Pinoys need to free General Lim, Col Ariel Querubin and other honorable men. The shortest road to this is of course surgical which to me is very OK. Next is voting out the bansot this May.
Pinoy’s should not wait for another moment of the Unano in power. Wala ng matitira sa atin!
RE: Malacañang ang aako ng lahat na gastos ang kampanya ni Cesar Montano
Pera ba ito ng bayan o sariling pera ni Mrs. Jose Pidal? Suwerte ang mga kandidato ni Unano dahil walang gastos. Baka kumita pa ang mga ungas katulad nina Angapal, Sotto, Oreta, Joker at Rectum. Dapat ibasura ang mga katulad nilang oportunista.
artsee, hindi masyado mahirap gawin yan. Halimbawa, sa pundo para pang gastos. Bawat kandidato may sariling treasurer na responsibililidad maglista sa lahat na contribution at lahat na contributors may limitar. Pagsumubra, huluin at ikulong u ipaka-in sa buaya. Ganon din ang panaggastos. bawat kandidato limitahan ang panggastos,puede kumulang hindi puede ang sobra. Walang pera galing sa Gobyerno para pangkumpanya nang kandidato. Sagot nang Gobyerno ang gasto sa halalan, bili nang balota, bayad sa manga trabahador at ibaa pa. lahat na sumuway, para susunod ipakain lahat sa buaya. yang lang ang solusyon…
Oink! Oink! Oink! said illegitimate Gloria. My piggys not to worry for I baboy Gloria will bring you pork, ham and bacon along with helicopters, planes and P100 millions. I baboy Gloria will also handle all your expenses until you’re fatso, and ready for the slaughter house. Mi cuarta, y yu cuarta! I guess, pigs instead of dogs are more appropriate when we are referring to mutineer Gloria and her corrupt piggys, even though dogs can be trained to follow simple tricks and domesticated than pigs. But, pigs oink, oink all the time and their mouths moving faster, faster than the one arm bandits in Casino Pilipino. So, pigs it is.
Pigs it is, Toney.
Piggy Unano and Pigyur Fartso, the most corrupt couple in world history!
Boom Tarat Tarat Boom Korap!
It’s really sad that Cesar chose to run under this ticket… He’s one of my favorite actors in The Philippines, but sadly, his choice was poorly made.
The consequences won’t be monetary, but his fan base, may just decline…
Eh saan pa nga ba manggaggaling ang gagastusin ng administrasyon sa eleksiyon? Eh di sa panghihirapan nating kitaing pera na binabayad sa napakataas na taxes na kinukurakot lang ng mga kampon ni Gloria! Kaya naman nang-agaw ng pagka-presidente si Gloria ay dahil puntirya nila ni Pidal na pagnakawan ang bayan! At iyan ang tunay na nangyayari sa kaban ng bayan ngayon! Kala mo pera nila ang ginagastos! At ang kakapal ng mga mukha na sabihing galing sila sa mayamang angkan. Pwe! Mga MAGNANAKAW at MANDARAMBONG NAMAN!!!
Hmmn, tama ka Luz, mayaman daw e bakit walang ginawa kundi mangurakot?! Kung likas na mayaman sila e di sana kahit konti meron silang conscience na magtira para sa pagkain ng mga mahihirap na pinoy, ano?!
Basta pag-naalis na si Gloria sa poder before of after 2010, eh sampahan ng sangkatutak na kaso, hindi lang dito sa bansa kundi sa international courts, kasama ng mga alipores niya! At kung maaari lang ay BALATAN NATIN NG BUHAY! SiRaulo Gonzales eh baka hindi na abutin ang 2010 at mauna na sa impyerno. HIntayin na lang nya sina Gloria at Pidal dun.
Oh so true, Anna. In fact, the former president of Ghana was a former client who promised to invest a million dollars in the stocks that we held if I can guarrantee his being invited over to New York to sign the fund management contract there. But we don’t do that, at least, not for JUST a million dollars, heheh. Samuel Mensah said his life was continuously under threat that even after years of giving up on politics, he narrowly escaped ambush while his bodyguard didn’t. I’d imagine that would happen to Ramos or Aquino or Erap if the these guys continue to pest this dumb hothead eewy creature named Gloria.
Same story when I tried to sell to many prominent people in Togo, Benin, and Nigeria. They all want to be taken to the US in return, with probably a ten thousand dollar “gift”, to boot. That, considering the limits on the money they could take out of their countries. They’d rather live a pauper’s life in the US than a prince’s about to be snuffed out anytime.
Pretty much similar to Pinas today, bribery IS the only way for Gloria to survive.
“Chavit, also known as Chavit Singson Story and Chavit: Blood Son of Ilocos , is a 2003 Filipino film produced and directed by Carlo J. Caparas starring Filipino actors Cesar Montano.”
Luis “Chavit” Singson disclosed that he is endorsing movie actor Cesar Montano.
Si Cesar Montano ay kabit kay Chavit?
“They’d rather live a pauper’s life in the US than a prince’s about to be snuffed out anytime.”
Kaya pala pinili ni Jocelyn Bolante na mabulok sa US prison, baka ma-“snuffed out” siya anytime sa Pinas.
Yes Chi,
May tama kasi sa utak yang mga iyan eh. Ang totoo eh deprived sila nuon at salat sa tunay na kasaganaan at tunay na pagmamahal. Kaya nung nakahawak ng pera at power eh gusto nilang tapatan ng salapi at isip nila eh kaya nilang bilhin sinuman. Kasi sila Mukhang Pera din. Kaya nga pinasok ng ninuno nila ang Jueteng eh. Sa tutoo lang naka-kaawa ang SASAPITIN ng mag-anak na MANDARAMBONG na iyan pati na ang mga kampon nila. Tsk-Tsk-tsk! Malapit na ang kanyang PAGBAGSAK!!!
Mag-dilang anghel ka sana, Luzviminda.
Chi,
Korek ka dyan. The US prison is probably the safest sanctuary for foreign criminals who escape from very powerful people in their country. When Jocjoc said his life was threatened by NPAs, he must have actually meant “Notorious Pidals’ Assassins”.
Luz, babagsak din ang mga Pidal na ‘yan! Malapit ng maningil ng kaluluwa ang pinakamatanda nilang kapatid na si Satanas!
Sabit kaagad si Cesar Montano, kawatan din pala ito!
“Honestly, if Pinas has to wait 3 or 4 more years before this Gloria cow leaves, Pinas will find itself on the same level as Haiti, Sierra Leone and some of those West African countries where LIFE absolutely costs virtually nothing.
The country is FALLING APART every day!
It’s time Filipinos became less shy and did something more surgical ”
I zero in on what you said: Filipinos should become “less shy”.
That illustrates the point I keep making here. At the very root of all this stupidity lies the very character of the Pinoy. Binababoy ni Gloria ang gobyerno kamo? Well, ang mga tao, for their part, nagpapababoy naman. For all our rantings about how evil Glorai is, the fact is she is still in power. Who gets the last laugh? If people were really serious about toppling the government, there are many ways to do it collectively:
(1) Stop paying taxes
(2) Stop obeying the government
(3) Stop patronising stupid politicians.
E asan ang resulta?
Here’s the answer:
ZILCH
All talk, ranting, insulting, and personality speculation. But ask ourselves: Where are the results? A big resounding wala is all you’ll hear.
Someone once told me that this blog is frequented by people who walk the walk and not only talk the talk. Well, folks, where are the results?
Benign, I mean BenignO,
You say legislation? Eh di ba nga binaboy na rin ni Gloria ang Kongreso? This blog is also a venue for our frustrations in what is happening in our country. And at present with our ‘legislature’. At malamang you use also this blog dahil may frustrations ka rin! Nagkataon lang na karamihan dito ay Anti-Gloria at nagkakaisa kami ng damdamin! May iba namang blogs ka na pwedeng puntahan eh, di bah!
Believe it or not, Benigno, I agree with the many things you say so, may the good people hear you Benigno, may they hear you indeed!
May they listen to your preachings, today, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow but no later than the end of next week!
Quite unfortunately, it’s difficult to preach to country folks who, fistly, do not had the formal education to enable them to grasp what you are saying – and more importantly even if they might be willing to listen, their biggest worry is how and where to get their next meal.
What you ought to do, bold and daring as you are, not at all the shy Pinoy, is to go door to door with the other less shy and the other more willing Filipinos like you to preach to the countryside folks on how to walk the talk, your way.
As Edmund Burke said, ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO TRIUPMH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING…
And look at our Congress now. Hindi naman lahat yan artista o showbiz celebrities. Karamihan nga diyan ay may matataas ang pinag-aralan. Karamihan mga abugado rin. Pero ano ang nangyayari. Mga mukahang pera at posisyon. Wala na ang paninindigan para sa bayan. Sabi mo “Intelligent discourse and careful evaluation of issues and platforms.” Wala iyan! Hanggang ang mga nasa legislature natin eh “Pera-Pera lang” Bulok ang sistema!
Benigno, I hear what you are saying and I see a few good people in this blog, perhaps most of them doing their bit to help out, not enough perhaps but some, enough to start the ball rolling.
Your 3 recommendations are doable:
(1) Stop paying taxes
(2) Stop obeying the government
(3) Stop patronising stupid politicians.
But it would take a Ghandi to do that and I’m pretty sure among the more than 80 million souls living in Pinas today, one is quite capable of doing it – someone like you.
I’m not saying that with the least bit of sarcasm, think about it: perhaps you ought to do what Ghandi did…
Oooops, But it would take a Ghandi to lead people to do that and I’m pretty sure among the more than 80 million souls living in Pinas today, one is quite capable of doing it – leading the people, someone like you.
Good night folks, tomorrow is another day…
Open your eyes and heart Bening(o). Hindi kailangan ng Pinoy ang sobrang “Pa-intelihente” para mabasa ang mga nasa damdamin nila!
“Someone once told me that this blog is frequented by people who walk the walk and not only talk the talk. Well, folks, where are the results?”
Someone told you?! Tsismoso ka rin pala with all your pa-burgis effect!
Are you looking for results from us? You don’t know the bloggers here personally and what they’re contributing, small, medium and big to the country, so zip up!
The owner of this blog, Ellen Tordesillas, is one exemplary example that this blog walk the talk!
What about you, why are you here, so someone may accidentally click your red name?!
Goodnight beautiful people!
OO nga naman Benign(o), ano nga ba ang naging kontribusyon mo para sa bayan? Ano ang resulta? Mayron na ba?
Goodnight Chi, and all the people with a good heart for our country! Bukas ulit!
I just watched Cesar Montano interviewed by Julius Babao and I’m really saddened by Montano’s reaction on the comments made by some prominent showbiz personalities- why he runs for senator. ang sagot ni bullet: “Hindi nga ako mambabatas, pero pwede naman makipagsapalaran” Aba! Cesar, alyas chavit singson, susmaria joesph! ang kapakanan ng sambayanang Pilipino ay hindi dapat ipagsapalaran. Kung hindi ka sigurado sa iyong pinapasok na mundo ng pulitika…pwede ba alis dyan!! Kung dahil lang sa kikitain mo sa perang ibibigay ni bansot, please lang, bumalik ka na sa showbiz. Huwag mong tulungan si bansot gloria na ubusin ang pera ng bayan para lang ipamudmod sa inyo. NAKAKAHIYA KA!!
Just heard the double-speak Press Secretary Bunyeta:
It is about the personalities but the issues.
It is not about the past but about the future.
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Bulls*hit, it is like telling us that you can get away with murder easily in this administration.
“You don’t know the bloggers here personally and what they’re contributing, small, medium and big to the country, so zip up!”
I’m sure everyone is contributing individually. But then if you step back and take stock of the bigger collective picture, there’s not much to be proud of, is there? 😉
“But it would take a Ghandi to do that and I’m pretty sure among the more than 80 million souls living in Pinas today, one is quite capable of doing it – someone like you.”
Thanks. I respectfully decline though. 😉 It’ll be a bit difficult doing a job that requires some interaction with people like Manny Pacquiao, Richard Gomez, and Tito Sotto though. 😀 As someone noted here, masyado akong “burgis” to work with Pinoy showbiz folk. 😀
It actually boils down to some kind of national will. Problem is Filipinos have been conditioned to think of only self and his own family, not even that in fact, in the case of many Filipinos I’ve met in Japan violating the laws of this land. Family in fact has become just merely an excuse. It is more often than just personal survival in that jungle called “Philippines.”
Hey, Benigno, don’t lump up Filipinos to your own kind. There are a lot many people here risking legs, limbs and lives to find solutions to the problems of the country you have despised apparently! Sorry, I don’t buy your tauntings!!! It is useless! If you cannot have a nice thing to say to encourage people here, sit there, and just read the ones you think satisfy your ego. OK? You don’t have to demean anyone here or try to dampen the spirits of those sincere ones among the bloggers here.
Sino ba itong Benignong ito at ginamit pa ang pangalan ni Ninoy? Ano ba ang pinagsasabi nitong taong ito? Sasabihin nakaka-contribute ang bawat isa dito tapos wala daw naman ipagmamalaki.
“There are a lot many people here risking legs, limbs and lives to find solutions to the problems of the country you have despised apparently!”
One question in light of what was said above:
Where are the results? 😀
I think we are expecting too much in such a place as Ms Ellen blog. As to my understanding, most clearly, this is just a blog or a chat room, if you will, where we offer opinions on a given talking points, and/or we even go beyond the limit of the talking points as the blog host will kindly let us. I would imagine, wholeheartdly, that our rhetorical contributions to this blog are limited within the confine of this blog. I suppose, this is not a place where we can initiate to start a revolution nor a place we can mobilize and put to action of things that are being said here passionately. I would agree, however, Philippines would be a better world to live in, if we only all of us here have the power to make things happen, won’t that be nice? But truth of the matter is, we just don’t have much to say in a way of running the country. Sadly, illegitimate Gloria has already such monopoly of how things ought to be in the Philippines. So, to make sure we all understand, know our places and what this blog is all about. For my part, I sincerely do. I’m sure Ms Ellen have the same understanding when she created this blog.
Yuko,
In the Philippine electoral system what we have is campaign budget instead of campaign fund and contribution limit. Exactly what the Philippines need is enact laws to impose limit on campaign funds and individual, group or corporate contribution that is highly transparent, verifiable and legitimate.
Artsee, you asked how can it be monitored? Yes it can be monitored if the present crop of politicians and major players in the government have a strong political will to have a clean slate.
All candidates file their income taxes so any campaign funds in excess of their income should be subjected to scrutiny by the BIR and brought to court (sandigambayan, if I am not mistaken is the court handling corruption and ill gotten wealth of public officials) for tax evasion and unexplained wealth. Individual, group, corporate or any entity donations can also be subjected to the same scrutiny to avoid gambling lords and other criminal lords in bank rolling candidates or themselves in running for elective positions.
The amount of money squandered every three years is just so mind boggling, we need to demand from the candidates to once and for all work together for a meanigfull comprehensive electoral reforms if we really want progress and good governance.
Ren
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/OFWMan/
Benign0, i agree with Yuko. Your taunting, though presumably well meaning, is ultimately a cheap shot. There are people back home who, as you say, are walking the walk. Some have even paid the ultimately price. When victory comes, and it will come, they are the ones who will be rightfully honored and remembered. In the meantime, i hope that you have the humility to realize that you, as a member of the burgis, are part of the problem.
Wow! Ellen, ang tanong sa iyo, sino ang magnanakaw? The list is above would you check it and see if you would agree. Would we consider which name is not mentione on the list abov, if illegitimate Gloria ay mandaraya at magnanakaw? What would you think Ellen, the truth now Ellen. How did fake Gloria happen to be in power? Who in the hell is Garcillano by the way, the other end of Hello Garci, and I’m wondering who we suppose on the other end when Garci on one end of the hello Garci? Ma’am one million/dagdag bawas siguro po ito ma’am. Well, anyway if we are to make an argument of who the biggest mandaraya at magnanakaw. would there be anyone that can top fake Gloria? Ooops, how about ang asawang Miguel? Or it’s all in the family, that your money is also my money.
Calling Jose Pidal, calling Jose Pidal, what’s your 10-20? More direct deposits are needed, the strong vaults in Malacanang are full and transfer are necessary without getting much public attention. 10-4, Jose Pidal out.
merong isang senaryo na maaaring maganap sa halalang ito na kasasangkutan ng manipulador ng immUNITY ticket. magaganap muli ang dagdag bawas kung saan ang boto para sa mga umanib buhat sa oposisyon ay “kakatayin” at itatapal sa medyo alanganing “tunay na kandidatong” sinusuportahan at sumusuporta sa “kagalang galang at mabunying” pangulo (gwark!).
kung inaakala nina angara, sotto at oreta na sila ay buong pusong tinanggap ng immUNITY ticket ay nagkakamali sila. gayundin si cesar montano na gagawin lamang “tagahakot” o crowd drawer sa kanilang miting de abanse. tinanggap lamang sila upang maging kapanipaniwala ang kunwaring pagkakaisang (kasama ang pagmamalinis) isinusulong ni gloria arroyo.
kailan ba naging totoo ang babaing ito?
binegn0,
hangga’t nakikisasaw ang mainstream media sa mga katarantaduhan ng mga alipores ni gloria macapagal arroyo, paulit ulit na lang ang problema!
kung inyong mapapansin, bakit kailangan na bigyan ng pagkakataon na mai-ere ang mga ideya tulad ni cesar montano.
ang pamba-babuy nina ben abalos na isang dating judge? ang panggagago ni raul gonzales na dating kasamahan ni nene pimentel?
noong panahon ng february 1986, bago magsalita sa ere si FM sa kanyang inagurasyon, nai-cut off the air ang panunumpa ni Apo Makoy na siyang naging hudyat sa taumbayan na wala na nga talaga sa kontrol si Marcos(source: the breakaway).
isang taon matapos mailabas ang resulta ng halalan ng May 1987(2-22, wherein bobit sanchez was edged out of magic 24), sa radyo ay may maririnig ka nang “hoy!canieso nandito ako”.
pero ngayon ay wala ka nang makikita na matatapang na tulad ni ninoy noong panahon ni Marcos at miriam santiago(1991-92) na ang lakas ng loob na lumalaban sa dragon na sindikato!
ang mga mararamdaman mo ngayon ay mga doble kara na tumatambay sa blogs at nag-a-ala reli german na namumulot lang ng ideya dito sa bahay ni ellen,pagkakwartahan?
dito mo makikita ang pagiging utak sindikato ng mga ulupong. pera ng gobyerno ang ginagamit sa panggisa sa sariling mantika ng mga Pilipino!
may point ka benign0! dapat ay mai-expose(maihayag) ang mga pilipino kung bakit patuloy na nagpapagisa sila sa sarili nilang mantika!
nagtataka ako kung bakit pinapayagan na magsi-ere ang mga taong alam naman natin na mga myembro ng sindikato!
Where are the results?
tama ka benign0! naniniwala ako sa mga taong tulad mo!
karamihan dito sa mga namboboso(o naninilip) sa bahay ni ellen ay mga media practioner at public relation expert kuno(mga exploiter ng sakit ng pilipino) na kung saan magaling lang mag-udyok!
kung talagang rebolusyon ang nangyari noong february 1986 bakit hindi hinayaan na ilabas ang galit ng taumbayan at ituloy nito ang pagtimbuwang at pagbuwag ng mga anito at muebles ng estado?
bakit hindi na hinayaan na sunugin ang malakanyang?
noong 2001, meron na naman na pagkakataon na lusubin at gawing abo(gray) ang palasyo?
dahil meron na namang naduwag?
isang classic example ay ang 24Feb2006?
sino sa inyo dito ang nakakaunawa ng swift and decisive , blitzkrieg?
noong makita at maramdaman nyo ba na “sea of red flags” ang nagmartsa sa edsa ay ‘teka …teka muna? hayaan muna natin ang mga sindikato!’
isang kabaliwan ang tumango at makihalakhak na lang sa mga klown at sirkero ng karnabal!
pero meron ba dito na handang maghubad?
handang ipakita kung pahalang ang mga hiwa ng kike nila?
handa rin ba silang sabihin na “bro, pakitulian nga ulit ako, sungaw kasi ako eh, tingnan mo oh?”
ano ang masasabi nyo sa MORON Republic?
kaya’t tinatawagan ko ang nangangalaga ng mga paintings ng bansa. iyong mga paintings dyan sa loob ng malacañan, ano ba ang dapat gawin dito?
kung walang bahid (o konti lang) ang pagkatao mo puede kang pumalaot sa politica,pero kung mapilit ka at makapal ang mukha at apog mo sige tumakbo ka….sayang itong si cesar at goma tahimik na at mariwasa na ang buhay pero nag hanap ata ng sakit ng ulo…aalingawngaw ang hello garci,kakalat ulit ang cd ni sunshe at klepto story ni L…cy sa internet cafe.
ate ellen,sana makapag isip isip itong si buboy,goma at money este manny pala to withdraw their candidacy,mag nilaynilay sila para lubos nilang maunawaan na ginagamit lang sila…baka di na sila makilala pag dumikit sa mukha ang putik na ibinato sa kanila…kailangan bang e memorize yan???paano kung matalo at nawala na milyones eh pati gara nyong kotse ala narin….hehe mag bisekleta kau tyak…pidal kau nang pidal..sayang ang mga kapatid nating itoh.
Chi;
I’m the one who started that “Can you walk the walk,and Talk the talk” I addressed that to Blacknight to show some proof about his allegation about the bamk account of Trillanes.I post that comment on Arroyo Talaga,-Feb.15 at 3:57 pm.Benigno is recycling it.But,it’s okey! He enjoy.
“When victory comes, and it will come, they are the ones who will be rightfully honored and remembered.”
It’s easy to say “it will come”. But when asked what is the basis of this fearless forecast, what can we come up with?
zilch
1986 was also a year of great hopes — hopes based on Ninoy’s blood spilled on the NAIA tarmac. 20 years later all we have to show for this “great hope” and “spilt blood” is a badly-designed statue of this “hero” in Ayala and a soot-encrusted statue in Edsa that all but alienates non-Catholics.
“In the meantime, i hope that you have the humility to realize that you, as a member of the burgis, are part of the problem.”
Hmmm, this rhetoric sounds eerily like one of Erap’s campaign speeches. 😀
Edong:
Can you talk the talk and walk the walk about your allegation with the opposition, that they are, what you called them magnanakaw.What is the son has to do with his father’s wrongdoings if there’s any? About Noynoy everyone knows that he is the son of Ninoy.If Noynoy is takaw pansin in your opinion,so,with Jun Magsaysay being the son of the great president Ramon Magsaysay.I don’t agree with you.
It may not take the masses to effect the change, but the power unto themselves may bring down its own base and the results as BeningO is looking for will come just as the consequence not because of the struggles or the results of our yaks yaks. many empires were brought down by themselves, due to their own decadence and corruptions. I think in the end, that will bring down the Philippines order as we know them and will start evolving back, but we will not know for certain to where and we just hope to a better one. Meantime there is no harm in pitching in a little of whatever we can throw in. It almost bottom out already, and there is nowhere to go but up, up, and up..
pabayaan na lamang ninyo si benign0. madaling sabihin ang nararapat na solusyong kanyang nais na gawin, para sa kanya.
gaya nang nabanggit ko sa naunang thread – ipaliwanag sa mga tambay sa kanto kung mauunawaan at/o maiintindihan ang napakalalim na inggles!
at, uulitin ko uli ang paulit ulit kong palaging sinasabi – puksain muna ang salot sa malakanyang saka pagsamasamahin ang mga ideyang magsisilbing hakbang upang muling maibangon ang ating bayan mula sa kanyang kinalulugmukan.
hindi makukuha at masosolusyunan ang lahat sa pamamagitan ng pagmamagaling o pagpapagalingan!
“hindi makukuha at masosolusyunan ang lahat sa pamamagitan ng pagmamagaling o pagpapagalingan!”
On the contrary, Western civlisation was built as a result of a strong ethic of competition, the articulation and propagation of ideas, and the testing of these ideas against competing concepts.
Too bad you find fault in using “napakalalim na inggles”. It so happens that Tagalog is an intellectually impotent language and woefully inadequate for the communication of the kind of thinking required for Pinoy society to lift itself out of its pathetic wretchedness.
The language of a society merely reflects its collective intellectual breadth and depth. Case in point: There is no Tagalog word for “efficiency”. 😀
Benigno, if you are looking for results now while the tiyanak is in power, it may not find its way to the citizenry. The media is filtered. The journalist who speak the truth are either killed or sued. The brave officers of our army who can not stomach the cheating ways of this impostor president are incarcerated. The money of the people are looted. The so-called legislatures are dominated by “inutils’ who not do anything unless bribed( commonly known as pork barrel). It will take a generation or two to get your idealistic results. In Jose Rizal’s time, his pen was his sword. Today, the internet and this blogging stimulate the minds of those who may be still be in the gray on what is going on in our shitty country.
In my travels to the different countries of the world, Filipinos are all over but majority of them are in the domestic fields. It is not because they lack education as most of them are even college degree holders, but the Philippines simply does not have any jobs for them. We have very limited manufacturing companies or industries to absorb our graduates or even pay them the much deserved salaries.This bogus president boasts of economic growth but look at all the squatters lining up all our main streets! Almost 60% of our population are in poverty. For every peso the country earns in taxes and investments, the Filipinos would be lucky if even 20% would go to infrastructures and the basic necessities of the people. A good 80% go to corruption. Where do you think does this impostor president get all the money to pay for everyone’s campaign expenditures in the upcoming May elections for her bets? A classic example of this regime’s corruption!
We have to start somewhere. Even the hardest rock can break with constant little hammering. This is what we achieve to do in this blog.
Do not be anxious Benigno, you may have another 40 or 50 years of your life to help us build a better Philippines. If we take baby steps now, we will reach our destination. Yes, having been colonized so many times, we have a subservient mentality. But a responsible leadership is needed to turn this country around. With the illegitimate president, we are two steps backward and one step forward. In other words we are still behind in everything. Change the leadership and we can reverse the trend and move forward instead.
Benigno, most of the bloggers here, as you can see are mostly overseas Pinoys who are outside looking in. Also, most of the bloggers here are contributors to the $ 12 billion dollars that the impostor president considers as part of her economic growth! So, to answer your question of “where are the results?”, the bloggers here are fueling the economy of the Philipppines! Each of us have roles to play. Blogging is our contribution. What is yours, Benigno?
One more thing Benigno, the so called “powerful leaders” who end up looting their countries and abusing their people end up like Ssddam Hussein! Now who has the last laugh?
Another thing too Benigno, let us face it, if you cannot level off with Manny Pacquiao, Richard Gomez and Vic Sotto, then you will never be able to reach 70 % of our citizenry. You need to take up a course in “MASA 101”.
“So, to answer your question of “where are the results?”, the bloggers here are fueling the economy of the Philipppines! ”
That’s right. 10% of our economy is accounted for by expat remittances. That’s really sad. And you know what is fuelling the economy? Nothing more than consumerism. That’s right. Much of those “heroic” remittances go to nothing more than consumption. Very little of it is channeled into pursuits that contribute to the expansion of the capital base of the economy.
Right now our economy is flooded by cheap Chinese-made trinkets that the recipients of overseas $$ hungrily lap up.
“Each of us have roles to play. Blogging is our contribution. What is yours, Benigno?”
Here is my contribution:
http://www.getrealphilippines.com
I believe you said that “In Jose Rizal’s time, his pen was his sword”? 😉
“If we take baby steps now, we will reach our destination”
True.
The venerable Nick Joaquin had this to say about our much-vaunted delight with “little contributions”:
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However far we go back in our history it?s the small we find–the nipa hut, the barangay, the petty kingship, the slight tillage, the tingi trade. All our artifacts are miniatures and so is our folk literature, which is mostly proverbs, or dogmas in miniature. About the one big labor we can point to in our remote past are the rice terraces–and even that grandeur shrinks, on scrutiny, into numberless little separate plots into a series of layers added to previous ones, all this being the accumulation of ages of small routine efforts (like a colony of ant hills) rather than one grand labor following one grand design. We could bring in here the nursery diota about the little drops of water that make the mighty ocean, or the peso that?s not a peso if it lacks a centavo; but creative labor, alas, has sterner standards, a stricter hierarchy of values. Many little efforts, however perfect each in itself, still cannot equal one single epic creation. A galleryful of even the most charming statuettes is bound to look scant beside a Pieta or Moses by Michelangelo; and you could stack up the best short stories you can think of and still not have enough to outweigh a mountain like War and Peace.
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Read the complete article “A Heritage of Smallness” here:
http://www.getrealphilippines.com/agr-disagr/17-4-smallness.html
– 😀
“Another thing too Benigno, let us face it, if you cannot level off with Manny Pacquiao, Richard Gomez and Vic Sotto, then you will never be able to reach 70 % of our citizenry. You need to take up a course in ‘MASA 101’”
Well, in my opinion, it is a more worthwhile effort to lift the “masa” to our level rather than for us to go down to their level.
That is Erap’s populist stance — a stance that is popular with folk who find no merit in uplifiting their pathetic lot and instead prefer to find glory in it.
Sorry,
I meant to say:
That is Erap’s populist stance — a stance that is popular with folk who find no merit in uplifiting their pathetic lot and instead prefer to find glory or virtue in their wretchedness.
I just heard the impostor president say that a few days ago, “to lift the poor to the level of the elite”. Eradicate the corruption first, remove all the “trapos” in the government and stop being a puppet to the super powers then and only then can we can elevate the the poor people of our country.
Erap is not my yardstick of leadership but I liked his pick of candidates better than the bogus president’s pick!
I like your collective views. I agree with you that we have a big problem with our people. Until each and every Filipino will have an economic freedom, we will never make it to a civilized country! It is very sad because our country has rich natural resources.
Again, we have to pick a leader that has a legitimate mandate and who is not surrounded by blood( Money, power) sucking lap dogs! That would be a start. Then and only then will we be on the road to recovery.
Sobra namang mag-insulto ng kapwa niya pilipino itong kapangalan ni Ninoy! Bakit anong palagay niya sa sarili niya? Iba siya sa mga pilipinong katulad niya? Baka Amerikanong hilaw ang taong ito na isinusumpa ang lahi niya! Susmaryosep!
O para sumaya ka Benigno, over in the Land of the Rising Sun, ang tingin sa mga pilipino (lalaki) ay mga magnanakaw, robbers and thieves, at holduppers pa kasi marami sa kanila in fact nakakulong sa Japan for those crimes. Iyong mga babae naman kilalang “Japayuki” kasi iyan ang pinapatrabaho sa kanila nitong mga bugaw na umuupo sa gobyerno nila. Sa totoo lang, si Erap nga lang ang pumayag sa request ng mga hapon na i-phase out na ang pagpapadala noon ng mga pseudo-entertainers sa Japan.
In fact, Ellen, I want this to be on record based on Japanese police report for 2000 nang bumaba ng 50% ang deployment ng mga Japayuki noon na naging 200% nang umupo si Mama-san Glueria!
Now, sabi ng kaibigan kong Tsinoy na ethnic Chinese, baka magnanakaw daw ang pinanggalingan ng mga pilipino! Ewan ko lang kung kamag-anak siya ni Benigno dahil magkapareho sila ng akala sa mga kapwa nila pilipino! Purbida man gid!
benign0:
ang isa sa mga nakita kong depekto ng relasyon ng ina at anak ay kung papaano nito ginawang mahina ang relasyon ng bawat isa.
isang halimbawa ay kung papaano at anong klaseng pakikipag-usap ang itinuro ng ina sa anak?
isa pang halimbawa ay kung papaano makukuha ng ina ang atensyon ng anak niya?
sa pamamagitan ba ng tsupon?amoy o halimuyak ng isang ina? laruan? o ang tamang pagpapasuso?
alam mo na siguro ang ibig kong sabihin? 💡
PSB,
Sa UK, you cannot become an elite unless you acquire a university diploma, live in middle-class housing and speak the Queen’s English. Otherwise, you are called “working class” doing such menial jobs as truck driver, domestic helper, etc.
Ano ang pinagsasabi ni Pandak na gagawin niyang elite iyong mga pilipinong pinapadala niyang domestic helpers, etc. ibang bansa. At saka, pinalibre na ba niya ang education ng mga pilipino para wala nang palaboy-laboy na bata sa kalye. Please ang dami naman niyang kaartehan na sinasamahan naman niya ng nakaw.
Huwag kayong maniniwala sa ungas na iyan. Pathological liar iyan. Ang sinabi niya ngayon, iba na naman bukas at kahapon! Hindi na ba nadala ang mga pilipino sa ungas na iyan? Purbida man gid!
Whose fault is it that the remittances by the oversees workers go to consumerism? With the tax collections the government get from the overseas workers, couldn’t the government allocate these for worthwhile projects? These remittances put kids to school and build houses for families. Korea had to go through this phase before they evolved to what they are now. If only this government know how to allocate its monetary resources towards education, services and infrastructures, we will not be in deep disrepair that we are in now.
ParasaBayan, AMEN TO THAT!!!
“But a responsible leadership is needed to turn this country around.”
Yes this is what the Filipinos are desperately hoping and looking for!
Needs to be pointed out that the United Kingdom has changed dramatically in the past twenty years or so. Restrictions on classes are a thing of the past, in fact it is common for the children of single parents that were onced labelled as ‘working class can and are encouraged to attend University education. So the mould of the so called ‘elite’ has been broken for some time. Housewives are also encouraged to enter the University system and many do even they have young children. I think you will find that the very successful Open University system was started around the mid 1960’s and open to all ages and all ‘classes’ so its been around for at least 35 years.
Ellen:
Funny, but as we prepare for our movement for clean election in Japan for this mid-term election and I was brushing through my notes, correspondences, etc. with the Philippine Embassy that we bombarded with questions and criticisms as to the lousy way the election was likewise conducted in Japan with a number of good officials there being kept in the dark themselves, I found this message that posted in the UPAA in Japan forum:
— In upaa-in-japan@yahoogroups.com:
I wonder how many of these “honest” mistakes have been committed in the May 10 election apparently in a vain attempt to insure the victory of a dye-in-the-wool crook:
PIMENTEL WON’T DROP CHARGES AGAINST POLL OFFICERS IN VOTE-SHAVING IN
PAMPANGA
Senator Aquilino Pimentel Jr. (PDP-Laban) today said he will still
pursue the criminal charges he filed against the members of the board of
canvassers and tabulators of Bacolor, Pampanga despite their claims that
the reduction of the votes he got in the town was an “honest mistake.”
WWNL:
I studied in England in the late 60’s and mid-80’s. The tradition still holds and cannot die despite the laws that has been existing in fact for centuries since the adoption of the Magna Carta. FYI! I actually lived in the better part of Oxford. The working class still live in an area called “Cowley” even NOW!
You and Arroyo are probably so used to making that statement that you fail to see its inherent presumptuousness and arrogance. What exactly do you mean by ‘our level’ and what do you think is ‘their level’?.
Oops, slip of the finger, this should read, “despite the laws that HAVE been existing in fact for centuries since the adoption of the Magna Carta.”
Chi: Are you looking for results from us? You don’t know the bloggers here personally and what they’re contributing, small, medium and big to the country, so zip up!
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Galit ka na ha! That’s the spirit, girl! Love that indeed!
CVJ:
Their level—MAGNANAKAW! Our level: HULIHIN SILA O IPAHULI SILA! Fair?
benign0 Says: “Too bad you find fault in using “napakalalim na inggles”. It so happens that Tagalog is an intellectually impotent language and woefully inadequate for the communication of the kind of thinking required for Pinoy society to lift itself out of its pathetic wretchedness.”
paanong magkakaroon ng pagtitiwala at paniniwala at pagsunod sa iyong iminumungkahi kung ikaw mismo ang unang unang huhusga na walang kakayahan ang mga pinoy bunga nang pagyakap at pagpupumilit na ang pagtatalakayan ay gawin sa sariling dila? lumalabas lamang na sadyang ang tingin mo sa iyong kababayan ay wala ng pag-asa upang makaahon sa kinasasadlakang ang may dulot ay katulad mong merong mataas na pinag-aralan, may pinagkadalubhasaan at pinagpandayan ng kaalamang ginagawang sangkalan upang ipamata sa karaniwang nasasakupan na siya (gayundin ikaw) ay mas nakakaangat at mas merong nalalaman.
wala ngang tuwirang tagalog ang sinasabi mong “efficiency” dahil ang tingin mo ay inutil na ang mga pilipino pero merong inggles ang mga katagang “baliw” at “madamot” na katulad ng inaasal mo!
Eh ang tagalog ba “hypocrite” ay “mapagpaimbabaw” o “mapagkunwa”?
ang tagumpay at pag-asenso ng isang tao ay hindi nasusukat sa dami ng mga naglilingkod at nagsisilbi sa kanya kundi sa bilang ng kanyang nahihikayat upang sundan ang magandang halimbawang ipinamulat niya sa paraang mauunawaan ng kahit sinumang pinakaaba.
hypocrite – ipokrito, mapagkunwari, mapagpaimbabaw.
luzviminda, tama ka. (gusto ko sanang gawing initials na lang ang pangalan mo, pero medyo lalabas na pangit, kasi ang labas niya LVM.) joke, joke, joke!!!
Ellen,
Mukhang may blogger ka na nakabalato o madalas maambunan ng nakaw sa kaban ng bayan ..ah ?
There are worthwhile issues that have been taken up by Benigno in this blog just as there are important comments and counter arguments made in his direction.
However, much as Benigno’s exposé has merit, they cannot be realistically achieved until we have eradicated, obliterated the one, single, biggest divisive factor facing this miserable republic: Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.
I’ve already said (and cvj too) that the largest blame on the continuing disintegration of the nation can and may be heaped on the the elite and their snobbish ilks.
There is a job cut out for you Benigno – since you admit that you are “burgis” (how odd, because burgis which comes from the word bourgeois – traders – was synonimous to the “vulgar” class, moneyed perhaps but uncouth, in France for a long, long time…) to do a door to door preaching of the burgis homes to tell them that theirs is to do or die.
Okay lang MRivera, di naman yun LBM eh! Hehehe! Pero Luzviminda means Pilipinas na rin! Ganyan ko kamahal ang bayan nating nasasadlak ngayon sa lubhang pagdurusa. At ang kanyang pag-ahon ang ating lubos na mithiin! Sa payak na paraan ng paghihinga ng ating saloobin sa blog na ito at nawa’y marinig ng sinumang may puso rin para sa bayan!
Ang tawag ni Ate Japyuks kay BenigNO ay Amerikanong Hilaw. Ano ba ang ibig sabihin niyang hilaw? May Amerikanong Hinog ba?
Hihihihih…
“May Amerikanong Hinog ba?”
Tongue,
Your story highlights the very uncanny similarities between Western African nations and Pinas.
Another similiarty between Robert Mugabe, some West African leaders and Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is they all BRAG about their lineage…
Dwarf stature, dwarf mind, primitive attitude.
Matter of fact, except for the corpulence, Gloria may as well resemble Idi Amin Dada – ugh!
Yap, hangga’t mga “elitista” ang nangingibabaw at nagpapatakbo ng ating bayan, ang mga mahihirap ay di makakaranas ng kaginhawahan! These elitists are the cause of our coutry’s woes because they only serve their own interests!
Tagalog, impotent? Who says so? This guy must be Visayan, for Tagalog in fact is a very rich language. Forgot the American guy who said that. Hindi pilipino, Amerikanong puro in contrast with the Amerikanong hilaw! Gunggong din ano? Baka kamag-anak ni SiRaul-o Gunggonzales!!! 😛
Impotent? Hindi ba lalaki lang ang puedeng maging impotent? Bakit lalaki ba ang Tagalog?
Kung ako ang pinatatamaan mo, hindi ako impotent. Potent ako. Teka, may Intsik na hilaw ba? Baka ako iyon. Kung ganoon, may Hapon na hilaw din. Kung may hilaw, may hinog…at siyempre may sa gitna, katamtaman lang. Ah ewan!
Artsee, yung katamtaman na sinasabi mo eh “manibalang” ang tawag dun. Tagalog indeed is a very rich language. Minsan may salitang walang katapat na isang salita nguni’t maipapahiwatig sa lupon ng dalawang salita. Tulad ng “efficient”, na maaring ipakahulugan na “mabisang gumawa”. Ang mahalaga ay ang pagkaunawa o ang maintindihan ng pinatutungkulan at hindi ang galing sa pagsasalita!
Or “efficiency” = “mabisang paggawa” o “mahusay na paggawa”
Eh ano ba sa inggles ang “manibalang”?
Off topic..Caught this on the news on ABS-CBN:
There’s something funny going on in the Recto family..Ralph Recto announced in a rally of Team Unity in Pampangga that is wife, Vilma, will be running for Governor of Batangas. In a separate interview, his brother, Ricky Recto, said that he, too, wants to run for governor in Batangas. So, it’ll be Recto vs. Recto ?
Ricky Recto also mentioned in the phone interview that he was surprised that his brother, Ralph, announced Vilma’s candidacy because they all agreed to discuss this issue first before going public. Ricky also said that Malacañan threatened to revive his homicide case (filed by Gov. Sanchez) if he pushes through in running for Governor of Batangas.
If a mere candidate like Ralph Recto cannot get his family’s act together, one can only surmise that Gloria’s Team Unity will implode & disintegrate.
And that means Ralph Recto is under Gloria Engkantada’s evil hypnotic power. No independent mind, a Gloria’s “yes man”! IBASURA ANG ADMINISTRASYON! IBOTO ANG OPOSISYON! (minus Mr. Noted Pangilinan)!!!
Pero Benign(O), ano nga ba sa inggles ang “manibalang”? Hindi ko talaga alam!
Luzviminda,
Yes, let’s GO for the 11 !
Taken from Malaya (02/21/2007 online edition):
JUSTICE Secretary Raul Gonzalez said that if opposition Rep. Alan Peter Cayetano (Taguig-Pateros) makes it to the Senate, he faces ouster through disqualification by the Senate Electoral Tribunal.
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The Arroyos, including siRAULo Gonzalez, are the campaign managers of Alan Peter Cayetano.
If at all, we must thank them. Sige, ituloy pa nila ang bira. Sino ba ang lumalabas na pikon ?
In another article from Malaya (02/21/2007 online edition):
Re-electionist Sen. Francis “Kiko” Pangilinan, who is included in the GO senatorial line-up, said he would maintain his independence despite agreeing to be adopted by the opposition..
“The coming polls could be the toughest battle of my life, but it can also be not just my battle but the struggle of every Filipino, the struggle of all those who have grown weary, who have become disheartened, the powerless, the impoverished, all those who yearn for the better, all those who have yet to feel and benefit from the economic upturn. This can, and should be, their struggle as well,” Pangilinan said.
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How can Kiko Pangilinan say that his battle is similar to the Filipino’s struggle ? If he did not keep saying, “Noted !” & banging his gavel, in the canvassing of votes (in the 2004 Presidential Elections), then the Filipinos would not have to desperately struggle like they do today.
If there’s anything I agree w/ his statement, it is this: “The coming polls could be the toughest battle of my life..” Like hell, it will be, dude !
Wala yatang maisagot na English word si Benign(O) sa salitang “manibalang”. Kung wala, that means, “intellectually impotent languange” din ang inggles. Ano ba talaga!
Sa lahat ng sasabihin ni Kiko Pangilinan, ang masasabi ko lang ay…”Noted”! Mr. Noted!
Well, Goodnight na muna ako. Baka sakaling managinip ako ng isang “Magandang Pilipinas”.
Dapat isalang si Cesar Montano sa Eleksyon Podcast…
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/podcasts/…so far only loren, chiz, and pimentel had their interviews…very deserving talagang maging senator..all candidates should try this new campaign ads and I already post this site to my friendster account…I wish Sonny Trillanes will be given a chance to have his interview.
It’s about time that GO junk KIKO Pangilinan because I read that he will not join the proclamation Rally…at this time, better replace him with Honasan or Goma okay na sa akin just junk Kiko!!! para siyang si Noli De Castro noon 2001 he was adopted by Erap’s party pero di naman sumasama sa Rally and then look!!! he did not recognize erap’s party ang sabi niya independent daw siya.
I just hope Goma and Montano will allow themselves interviewed in eleksyon podcast para marinig ko din kung anong alam nila sa politics.
Ate Luz, ang manibalang ba iyong mambabalang na parang mangkukulam?
Benigno:
Re; If the people really serious of toppling the government,there are many ways to do it collectively:
1)Stop paying taxes
2)stop obeying the government
3)Stop patronizing stupid politicians
I agree with you in your number 3.Your number 1 & 2 is kind of a negative influences, a risky preposition and you are putting the country in a dangerous situation and it is likely to cause a big problem. It is not necessary the populace to suffer, because the present government we are having right now is divisive under the president’s rule.
If no one pay taxes, the government will not function, period!
Stop obeying the government, We all live in uncivilized society.
Stop patronizing stupid politician, Se,Senior Benigno!El electiones de Mayo,les pido que vayan a las urnas de votacion y echen su voto candidatos para senatores,responsable,con experiencia,liderazgo dedicado en el que Uds.pueden confiar.Candidatos un trabahando para filipinos.No trabahandar para su un dinero!—I hope you can translate it.If not I can translate it for you.
At ano nga ba yung sabi ni Gat Jose Rizal? “Ang taong di marunong magmahal sa sariling wika, ay daig pa ang HAYOP aT MALANSANG ISDA”!
Ako, pihadong hindi ako hayop at malansang isda dahil mahal ko ang aking wika!
Luzviminda:
I agree with you na “Ang hindi nagmamahal sa sariling wika,ay daig pa ang hayop at malansang isda”
We are now in sophisticated electronic age. To compete globally we must learn to be linguistic. Filipinos are invading the universe, in order to conquer the endeavor and challenges of the place we want to abode we must learn their language as well as there culture, laws and religion.
Rizal himself knew a lot of foreign languages, he studied their culture as well. He was linguistic.
Chabeli:
Nagtataka ka pa ba kay Mr. Noted? Keningburimo kasi iyan. Iyong bang traydor ang dating! Typical dugong-aso din ang ungas! Too bad, maaawa na sana ako!
Tongue T:
What ‘s happening to the UP grads? Naging gutter…err ganid na ba ang majority? Kakahiya! Shame, shame, shame!
May nabasa akong nagsabi tungkol sa growth na laging ipinagmamalaki ni Gloria. I think it was by my idol, De Quiroz, I’m not sure though. It said that the growth Gloria has been yakking a lot about does not at all reach the masses. What struck me was this line: “Such growth in only one small part of the whole body isn’t prosperity, it’s cancer.”
Galing, ‘no?
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Ganyan lang iyan si BenignO, arogante ang dating, akoangtama-complex, typical fault finder. May gustong ipublish na libro, wala pa yatang gustong kumagat. Humihingi ako ng kopya, i-download ko na lang daw. Sino pa bibili niyan, pwede palang idownload? In the end, it all boils down to his “scholarly pursuits” in the form of a website. Tipo bang 4th year thesis sa business school na sayang naman kung yung prof lang niya ang makakabasa. Bottom line, gusto rin niyang tanggalin si Gloria, but done exclusively HIS way!
In the first item in his 3-pronged overly-simplistic approach, he assumes big business will risk being slapped with tax cases ending up in closure and confiscation, doing that ahead of their smaller counterparts. That is if the smaller businesses will even think of putting their family businesses in peril and hope they can later survive on noodles and start preparing their children to accept studying in public schools. I’ve considered that idea myself in the past, and here I am back to my old business venture ever since the thought of my beautiful teenage daughter being an addict (or at least getting raped by one) the moment she enters the public school near city hall crossed my mind.
He also still thinks up to now that the salaried employees can opt to refuse being deducted their income tax even before they get the payslips. This witholding tax on salaries and wages, by the way, comprises the biggest contribution to the BIR collection.
I wonder, too, can we tell the cashier when its our turn at the supermarket’s cash register, “Take off the EVAT from my bills, I’m not paying my taxes”? If it’s possible please, tell me.
It’s not just difficult to subscribe to his no. 1 suggestion, it’s probably impossible. Someone actually says so, in detail, here: http://www.getrealbenigno.com/index.html?topic=wrong.conclusions.from.false.assumptions
#2:Stop obeying the government? Who IS, anyway? Oh, by the way, that is if we consider this one a government. Read this and you will know why: http://www.idontobeydaphilgovtcuziamnolongerpinoy.com/archives/1961/index.html
#3: Once more, who said we voted this bitch into office? Only Garci did. Oh no, no way can he retaliate by saying, “but you voted for Erap!” cuz I didn’t, haha! Then he’ll just probably say as he usually does, “So another fiesta revolution it is!” Nah. If there’s any revolution that’s going to happen, this one will be very bloody quick. Or just bloody. Period. None of the street dancing, no more fishball-spearing-beside-the-portalets, definitely no stage for somersaulting clowns nor politicians to declare in blaring trompas, “I’ve just seen the light!”.
Inquirer even says the next revolution might even be, well, blogged.
cvj: You and Arroyo are probably so used to making that statement that you fail to see its inherent presumptuousness and arrogance. What exactly do you mean by ‘our level’ and what do you think is ‘their level’?.
Politicians dancing the otcho-otcho on stage during campaign festivities is an example of stooping to the level of wretched ignorance just to get a message across.
That our politicians would do so manifests their own regard for the intellectual faculties of the people they are trying to woo.
parasabayan: Whose fault is it that the remittances by the oversees workers go to consumerism? With the tax collections the government get from the overseas workers, couldn’t the government allocate these for worthwhile projects?
So it’s all about the government again, isn’t it? The Chinese-Pinoys lived under the same inept government framework that native Pinoys did. They lived as Third Class citizens in fact selling taho and balut to local Malay Pinoys who derided them as “beho”. They did not rely on the government to channel their meagre profits into capital creation. They relied on themselves.
Until Indo-Malay Pinoys acquire this ethic of accumulation and wealth creation, OFW’s remmittances will merely be spent on celphone trinkets, tricycles, and jeepneys.
And by the way, an economy propped up by OFW remittances to the tune of 10% of its value is nothing to be proud of. People who are proud of such a statistic are victims of the propaganda of the very president they love to hate. The fact is, an economy that is propped up by overseas caregivers and labourers serves as a poignant reminder to of what a huge failure our society is at creating an environment for Pinoys to prosper.
Philippine Vigil: However, much as Benigno’s exposé has merit, they cannot be realistically achieved until we have eradicated, obliterated the one, single, biggest divisive factor facing this miserable republic: Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.
I beg to differ. The problems that contribute to the continued utter wretchedness of Pinoy society were created and were in place long before GMA ascended power.
Was it she who created our pathetic dependence of OFW remittances?
Was it she who created our sad sad addiction to consumerism, wild fiestas, and garish sense of style, resulting on our society having one of the lowest savings rates in the Far East?
Was it she who created these monstrous “export processing zones” that created nothing more than labour-added-value industries that are now suffering deaths-by-a-thousand-cuts in the face of Chinese and Vietnamese competition?
Was it she who had entrenched this debilitating victim/”dukha” mentality that routinely prevents Pinoys for taking personal accountability for their own pathetic plight?
Mr. Vigil, above the rest of the chattering masses here, I think you are smart enough to be above this whole let’s-blame-Arroyo stupidity and actually be a bit more self-reflective as to what exactly is the root of Pinoy society’s inability to pull itself together. 😉
Mr. TonGuE-tWisTeD. Pare, sobra mo namang ni-literal ang mensahe ko. Tough luck. An inability to read in between the lines and drill down into underlying meanings can sometimes be attributed to a failure in an approach to training in reading comprehension. I suggest you do what most people here do and look for someone to blame for inadequacies in our education system. 😀
“The Chinese-Pinoys lived under the same inept government framework that native Pinoys did.”
Yes that is true, but these Chinoys were being helped (morally and most financially) by the Chinese capitalists. Which the Filipino moneyed elites would not do to an ordinary Pinoy!
“Which the Filipino moneyed elites would not do to an ordinary Pinoy!”
That simply highlights the whole problem with our wretched lot. While the Chinese are able to pull themselves together into a powerful collective force, Pinoys are pathetically fragemnted along family and tribal lines.
Kawawa nga naman talaga ang Pinoy. 😀
“…what exactly is the root of Pinoy society’s inability to pull itself together.”
The answer is MORALLY GOOD GOVERNANCE, RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP!
And… PATRIOTISM of TUNAY NA PILIPINO, I believe is very important! Hindi yung “manibalang”!
Re;
“what exactly is the root of pinoy society’s inability to pull itself together”—My answer is simple—Crab mentality—
Kawawa talaga ang Pinoy, lalo na kung Pinoy din ang Kumakawawa!
ystakei:
I noticed that you were last in the UK in mid 1980’s. As I said in my comment there has been big changes to attitudes towards ‘class’ there in the past 20 years or so.
Whether we think it’s good or bad it’s proof that the UK has been changing with the times. Before the late 1950’s they never experienced seeing a person of black african origin there but now the country is multi national, now that’s not a bad thing.
The black immigrants of the 1960’s had children and now their children are the kids on the block and class can no longer exist, which is another good thing.
Margaret Thatcher was staunch Conservative Party and supported the businessmen whilst Tony Blair was Labour Party, So called ‘working class’ were encouraged to become self employed and own their own business and become proprietors etc and so on but Blair’s policies became the same as Thatcher’s, another reason why class barriers were broken down in the past fifteen years, further.
BenignO, I’m not repeating what I’ve been saying all along, even there in the other blog. If there’s anyone here who does not understand what he’s reading, it’s not me.
Dang, reading between THREE lines of motherhood statements that won’t even take off the ground just ain’t my style. Blame my Economics professor, Mr. Bernie Villegas. Or my Poli Sci mentors, Messrs. Renato Miranda and Philip Waite.
Sure, you could have mastered YOUR reading comprehension, maybe much better than the way my 8-year old son has, but hey, one idiot has said the same things here before. Today, he remains that way.
Know what, it’s actually disgusting that while many people have high esteem for your analytical writings, or simply impressed by your flair and flamboyance, the way you preach the action plan in 3 overly-simplistic modes doesn’t even catch my attention. I would prefer those taken by one of the bloggers whom you actually mentioned above, one has brought the country’s plight to the attention of the European Council on the matter of human rights and with that org which handles money laundering in EU. Ditto for another blogger who has written the Tribunal in Hague regarding the political killings and is very much into blocking the selling of Phil. properties covered by shady deals.
I need not remind you that Ellen herself filed with a group of journalists a class action suit against the Fat One – the pre-requisite step before a similar case is filed under the UN Commission on Human Rights.
Many others here are similarly as actively into DETAILED and SPECIFIC acts which shall benefit the country even if these may prove dangerous to their own persons if only judging by the way the crooks in power have reacted in the past.
Avoid paying taxes? Disobeying the government? Stop patronizing stupid politicians? WE are WAY BEYOND that now, BenignO. That’s why I love this group of Ellen’s.
Believe them the next time they say they “WALK THE WALK” and “TALK THE TALK”. Or you could choose to remain standing in the same soapbox as those incompetents who have nothing to offer the country but insults and intrigues and try to get attention by dancing “Itaktak Mo”. You don’t belong with THEM.
Ocho-ocho by the way is very 2003-ish. I suggest you update your writings, pal.;)
Si Luzviminda, galit na, ang galing mo pala pag galit ka, kaya lang nasobrahan ng “ti” yung “patriotism”, parang x-rated.
Akala ko tuloy si Artsee ang may gawa, haha!
OO nga ano, sorry di ko napansin. Do ko kasi na-proofread kasi nga nasasatan ako pag kinakawawa ang Pinoy eh!
I mean “nasasaktan ako pag kinakawawa ang Pinoy”.
Pero ang galing mo talaga Tongue-T, matalino na may puso pa! Di katulad ng iba dyan! Nagmamagaling lang!
Hala, nabulol na talaga yung keyboard ni luzviminda, hahaha!
Magaling naman talaga iyan si BenignO, wait for him to make his move, I’m sure he will start to be more proactive. Pretty soon magrereport na iyan ng mga accomplishments niya. Mas maganda iyon diba?
Ganun din naman ako dati, but I am now more into the “act” than the “talk”, thanks to Ellen and her gang.
Teka, closing na ng NYSE, bye muna!
That’s a really nice stocktake of “actions” on the part of the other bloggers, Mr. Tongue. But way beyond the basic stuff? I don’t think so. Not after checking out the quality of debate here.
We’ve had eminent people doing the stuff you cited here for decades.
And writing about this and that human rights abuses to whatever European audience? How’s that different from all the writings about the same abuses, dysfunctions, and stuff in blogs like this, and those filed within the legal framework of the Philippines?
Nakita mo lang ang “The Hague”, the “EU” and the “UN”, nasilaw ka na agad. 😀 I do believe I caught a little whiff of that all too familiar stench of colonial mentality. 😉
You’ve noted so many “statements” from so many “cause oriented groups denouncing this and that human rights abuse and expressing indignation about ded-bol journalists and all that crap since time immemorial. In its heyday, the PCIJ blog was really into publishing (or rather pandering to) the hollow-headed statements of this and that organisation (look what happened to it now — reduced to single digits na lang ang comments volume ng PCIJ).
And after all this noise, these “statements”, and these filed “complaints” to this and that tribunal and watchdog organisation, the question remains:
Where are the results?
And here we are again, at the start of yet another Fiesta Election all poised to elect the same old moron politicians and engage in the same old brain-dead debates.
So who’s fault is it? Who is accountable? How’s filing a bunch of complaints gonna change anything?
How is what we are doing today fundamentally different from what’s been done before?
And if we can’t even find anything fundamentally different about what we are doing today, what makes us think that our future will be any different?
nakita ko sa TV kagabi iyong balita tungkol sa campaign ng mga P-U-T-A sa Pampanga.
Nag-bowling si Cesar Montano at sinabi niya na:
“kung hindi si Sunshine ang napangasawa ko, malamang kapampangan ang napangasawa ko”
handang ibenta ni Cesar Asar pati asawa niya maabot lang ang langit ng mga taga Central Luzon!
oi! iniimbetahan tayo ni Alaskador ng PBA – PLASTIKAN , BANGAYAN at ASARAN!
Benigno:
The problem with our country, some of our fundamentals of law, SUCKS!
The people who are some of our government employee, SUCKS!
We elected government official to represent our interest but they, SUCKS!
Our comelec officials who administer fair election, they also, SUCKS!
Some of our religious institution whom we seek moral guidance, SUCKS!
Some of the teachers in public school to nurtured our kids learning, SUCKS!
Some parents who supposed to look for their children needs, SUCKS!
Jueteng lords,drug lords,gambling lords whose leaching people’s money, SUCK
Some of us were being fooled because some of us inherited “Maniana Habits”SUCKS!
LVM, (pahiram Mr):manibalang=slighly ripe.hehe
I agree 100%, which is why my respect goes out to them. (BTW, thanks for the links but i’m getting a ‘page cannot be displayed’ error)
benign0, you are confusing the audience apparent enjoyment of the ‘otcho-otcho’ as the totality of their being which, of course, is what leads you to your generalizations. That is typical of the elitist middle class matapobre viewpoint. Akala ng marami sa atin, tayo lang ang marunong. Sigurado ako na kahit natutuwa o natatawa ang mga nanood sa pinagagawa ng mga politiko sa entablado, nag-iisip din ang marami sa kanila. I think you should take to heart parasabayan’s advice and brush up on Masa 101.
kasama ba sa topic ng Masa 101 ang larong dikit at patong sa bingo-han?
kailangan din ba na makipila balde sa mga sugalan?
kung noon ay mga nakapila sa hagdan at naghihingukuhan(naniniris ng kuto) ngayon ay iba na.
kung ang mga burgis na mahilig sa sining at ang hilig ay pagpipinta? ngayon naman ay baraha na ang pinipintahan?
benign0:
gusto ko sanang suriin mo rin ang mga komunidad o pabahay na itinayo noon ni Dadong Macapagal, ang mga Tenement.
Isa na rito ang gusali ng PUP. Dapat sana ay tenement daw ito.
Ipagkumpara mo ang mga pabahay na BLISS ni Imelda noong panahon ni Marcos.
Ngayon mo makikita ang mga Pinoy na sinasabi ko.
Nasagot na ba ang where are the results?
Where are the results? Don’t hold your breath, because it won’t be none shortly coming. I’m still waiting for the “One Milliion Warm Pinoy Bodies” camped at the Malacanang gates. Then, we can discuss the results.
“I’m still waiting for the “One Milliion Warm Pinoy Bodies” camped at the Malacanang gates. Then, we can discuss the results.”
Well that’s certainly something Pinoys are good at — producing warm bodies. 😀
benign0, walang hindi aamin dito sa ating magkakasama na magaling ka, ang iyong mga binabanggit na hakbangin, ang iyong mga kuro kuro. pero wala kang mahihikayat kung laging may himig pang-iinsulto sa mentalidad at kakayahan ng mga ordinaryong pinoy ang iyong mga sinasabi.
ikaw ang mas may kakayahan, may pinag-aralan, lamang sa kaalaman at sigurado akong nakaaangat ka sa pamumuhay, pero kung wala kang maibabahaging kapakipakinabang nang bukas ang iyong dalawang palad at bukal sa iyong kalooban, lalo’t higit ay sa paraang kayang abutin ng nais mong patungkulan ay wala ring saysay ang iyong karunungan.
alalahanin mo, katulad nang sinasabi ng karamihang kasamahan natin dito na hindi lahat ay may kakayahan (sa kaalaman at pinanasiyal na katayuan) upang magkaroon ng access sa internet. paano malalaman at mauunawaan kung sakali ng ating pobreng kababayan? ano ang hakbang na gagawin mo upang maliwanagan nila ang iyong mga ipinapayo?
…(sa kaalaman at pinansiyal na katayuan)…..
All of us were born in the Philippines. Some of us may have been out of the Philippines for quite a time now.
Minus the insults, I tend to agree with Benigno’s observations. Those who are in first world countries may atest to the fact that the most sought after workers are the Filipinos. Now, this somehow contradicts Benigno’s argument to the effect that Pinoys are inefficient. Pinoys rank, in my opinion, as maybe the most efficient workers in the world. What’s probably the Pinoy’s character flaw is that he is very patient, very subservient and very quiet- he does not complain even when his rights are violated. However, there is a handful of OFWs who found their voices and learned the virtue of being assertive. These assertive OFWs find their way either to managerial positions or to the next flight back home.
What’s even more ridiculous is that when a Pinoy stands up for his rights, it’s another Pinoy who’s quick on the draw to shoot him down. Well, maybe, that’s another character flaw. (During the Japanese occupation, the phrase “Pilipino tago, Pilipino turo” was very popular). The Pinoy would bow down to anybody else except to his fellow Pinoy.
Looking at posts here, arguments are generally non-arguments. Pare-pareho kasi ng opinyon. Pag may naibang opinyon, iginigisa kaagad.
I am with most of the posters here with regards to their stand against the current dispensation. I am with most of the posters here with regards to their reactions when somebody insults the Pinoy as a people. However, I think it is only proper to offer counter-arguments without resorting to ad hominem posts.
It hurts to read Benigno’s post when it contains insults to Pinoys. What hurts even more is when some will reply with “buti na lang, may iba akong lahi” or something to that effect.
One cannot look at a third world problem with first world eyes. One cannot look at the Philippine situation from a Japanese, European or American perspective.
Sana, when we think of the Philippines, let’s think as Filipinos… Pero, ano o sino nga ba ang Pinoy?
Magno: (gusto ko sanang gawing initials na lang ang pangalan mo, pero medyo lalabas na pangit, kasi ang labas niya LVM.)
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Hindi naman pareho, Magno, dahil iyong isa LBM naman. 😉
WWNL:
Ano ba ang gusto mong ipalabas na obsolete ang alam ko tungkol sa UK. FYI, I don’t have to be there to know what is going on out there. I have kept my contact in fact with my foster family and relatives of my mother, who are not Filipinos but natives of England! You cannot change something that has been going on for centuries that are in fact part and parcel of the culture in a matter of days, months and even years!
Bakit ang hilig mong mang-insulto? Bakit akala mo ba pataygutom at walang pinag-aralang katulad mo ang kausap mo?
wow! blockbuster kaya?
meron ng mga artista sa senado. ngayon meron pang gustong sumama isang actor/director.
abangan ang pinakahihintay na “ritual sa tag-araw.”
episode 1, ipapalabas sa mayo, 2007
executive producer: gabriel claudio
casting director: norma japitana
lights! camera! action!!!
Tongue T.
Ang ganda ng banat mo. Iyan ang tunay na pilipino! Hindi katulad nitong mahilig mang-insulto ng kapwa nila pilipino, at kunyari na-o-offend kapag sinabi kong “buti na lang hindi na ako pinoy” kasi baka isama pa ako doon sa inaakala nilang mga mababang-uring pilipino dahil sila lang ang mga magaling!
Ang dami kong natutunan sa iyo sa totoo lang. Iyan ang tinatawag na matinong diskurso. Hindi katulad ng banat ng mga Internet Brigade ni Bansot na ang dating walang pinag-iba doon sa pagmumura ng mga Pidal kay Cayetano!
Salamat! Naaalis ang init ng ulo ko sa mga sinusulat mo!
“Those who are in first world countries may atest to the fact that the most sought after workers are the Filipinos. Now, this somehow contradicts Benigno’s argument to the effect that Pinoys are inefficient. Pinoys rank, in my opinion, as maybe the most efficient workers in the world.”
Actually I agree with this 100% and there is really no contradiction here.
Pinoys are very efficient workers individually. However when taken collectively we are amongst the most unproductive societies on the planet (i.e. we cannot produce enough economic value to sustain our own colossal numbers).
That simply highlights the colossal tragedy that is Pinoy society. We are a nation composed of hard working individuals. But we are pathetically unable to create a society with an economy that can tap that wealth of labour productively.
It takes foreign employers and multinational companies to employ Pinoys and harvest economic value out of us optimally.
That is why Pinoys go overseas to work. Because we as individuals are worth more to foreign economies and foreign companies than we are to our own local economy and local companies. And that is the saddest saddest fact of all.
– 😀
“However, I think it is only proper to offer counter-arguments without resorting to ad hominem posts”
The above concept is beyond the intellectual grasp of most Pinoys though. 😀
Bakit Benigno, hindi ka ba pilipino? Anong lahi mo? Para kang katulad noong titser ko nang nasa 4th Grade ako at nag-aaral kami ng Geography na bigla sabi na ang mga negro daw ay walang mga utak at magaling lang kumanta. Sinabi mo bang wala silang “intellectual grasp” dahil kapareho rin sila ng mga negro daw na ininsulto ng titser naming hindi rin naman nalalayo sa negro. Sobra ka namang mang-insulto ng kapwa mo pilipino?
Bakit hindi mo sila turuan ng mahusay na hindi mo sila kailangang laitin? Bakit sasabihin mo na ang mga pilipino lang ang hindi marunong makipagdebate dahil hindi maaabot ng kanilang mga pag-iisip.
Kaya nila kaya iba ang nakagisnan nila—ugaling dayuhan tulad halimbawa ng ugali ng mga Amerikano na nagsisiraan mismo sa mga ads nila sa TV. Sus ano naman ang iginanda ng ipinagmamalaki mong kultura. Nino? Kultura mo? No thank you.
sa mga henyong nagbukas ng daan upang masilayan ng kanilang mga kababayan ang pag-asang umakay sa kanila sa katiwasayan at kariwasaan sa ngayon, sino sa mga arabo, sa mga intsik, hapon, koreano at iba pang mga kilalang tao sa kanikanilang bansa ang sumulat ng libro sa wikang inggles upang maipaunawa ang kanilang mga kaisipan? hindi ba’t kung saan sila mas nagkakaintindihan at nagkakaunawaan? na upang maging batayan din at gabay sa pandaigdigang talakayan ay isinalin lamang sa wikang inggles?
sa kanilang mga sesyon, ang mga nabanggit na bansa ba ay sa wikang inggles tinatalakay ang kanilang pinag-uusapan?
nakakalungkot isipin na ang pagpapakumbabang nakikita ko sa mga dayuhang umaakay sa kanilang kababayan tungo sa pag-unlad ay kabaliktaran naman ang pagtrato at pagkilatis sa kapwa pinoy ng isang maituturing na henyong katulad ni benign0.
alam mo benign0, ang global community ay parang isang nanay yan.
ngayon naman ang pinas ay isang batang gusto palagi dumedede sa mammary gland ng nanay.
sa aking pananaw ang suso na nasa kaliwa ay ang EU samantalang ang nasa kanan naman ay ang north america.
ang ipinagtataka ko lang ay bakit gusto pa rin na sumuso sa dede ng nanay nya ang pilipinas samantalang ang laki-laki at matanda na ito?
samantala ang nipple naman ay maihahambing ko sa “hollywood culture” na gustung gustong palaging pinipindot ng bata.
sa palagay mo? tama pa rin kaya na supsopin ng bata pari ang areola?
kung ganon? hindi na matatawag na bata ang dumedede sa mammary gland?
ano sa palagay mo?
“Hindi katulad nitong mahilig mang-insulto ng kapwa nila pilipino, at kunyari na-o-offend kapag sinabi kong “buti na lang hindi na ako pinoy” kasi baka isama pa ako doon sa inaakala nilang mga mababang-uring pilipino dahil sila lang ang mga magaling!”
Meron po bang “mababang-uring Pilipino”? Kung meron po, sino po naman ang Pilipinong “mataas” ang uri? ‘Yung mga Pilipinong may gitling (hyphen)? ‘Yung mga Pilipino dati pero ngayon, hindi na?
Nagtatanong lang po…
ngayon lamang sa administrasyong ito naging talamak ang bentahan ng prinsipyo na siyang isinahalimbawa ng sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw at spoiled brat na umaastang pangulo.
samantalang milyon milyon ang walang hanapbuhay, walang masilungan, hindi makapag-aral, nagugutom, namamatay nang hindi nakakatikim kahit pang-unang lunas, silang mga galamay ng huwad na pangulo ay milyon milyong piso naman ang pinagpapartipartihan na kinukuha sa kaban ng bayang ang mamamayan ang dapat nakikinabang.
tunay ngang namamayani ang pagkagahaman sa salapi, pagkauhaw sa kapangyarihan at kawalan ng konsensiya ng mga namumunong halang ang kaluluwa. panahon na upang putulin ang kanilang mga sungay upang hindi na makapanuwag at baliin ang mga pakpak upang hindi na makapamayagpag!
sumilang na ang mga taong tatapos at lilinis sa bulok na sistema! iboto natin sila sa darating na halalan!
trillanes, escudero, cayetano. lumusot lamang kayong tatlo, tatalunin ninyo ang daluyong o bagyo!!
Benign0, don’t you realize that your analysis, in a large part, is an ad-hominem (not to mention unnecessarily racist) attack against the Filipino people in general and the masa in particular? I don’t know what drives you to do this, since we all seem to agree about the quality of the average Filipino worker when given the right opportunities.
I agree with you when you point out our problems with local productivity, but isn’t this more the fault of the our businessmen and entrepreneurs (a lot of whom lack the capacity to innovate and are good only at extracting quasi-rents or keeping wages low) and our government (which is unable to promote an environment conducive to doing business honestly)?
For these, we should be criticizing the ruling Filipino elite including the Chinese-Pinoy businessmen whom you seem to hold in such high regard. The laborers/consumers (including the ‘Indo-Malay’ Pinoys you deride), on the other hand, should be commended for propping-up the economy with their hard earned income. Without such consumers, our economy would have long ago fallen into a liquidity trap.
I wonder if Benign(o) is Pinoy. But if he is, then it’s so sad. Kasi yung mga katulad niya na nangmamata, nanglalait at walang bilib sa kapwa niya Pinoy ang isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit ganito ang Pilipinas! Imbes na tulungan ang isang lugmok na kapwa ay lalong dinudukdok! Kaya huwag na siyang magtaka, lalo na kung marami silang katulad niya!!!
Samakatwid ay tuwirang inamin ni Montano na kaya siya pumayag na kumandidato ay sapagkat sagot ni gma ang gastos sa kampanya at wala siyang matibay na pananaw at adhikain para makatulong sa bayan kung hindi ang matulungan lamang ng kanyang kasikatan ang kampo ni gma. Napakababaw ng kaligayahan mo Montano. Mga tunggak at ulol lamang ang boboto sa iyo.
benign0 says: “The fact is, an economy that is propped up by overseas caregivers and labourers serves as a poignant reminder to of what a huge failure our society is at creating an environment for Pinoys to prosper.”
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naman. bakit ang taong bayan pa ang may kasalanan? hindi ba’t mas may pananagutan ang pamahalaan dahil kung ano ang uri ng pamumuno ay ‘yun ang makikitang ginagawang halimbawa ng mamamayan? gayundin, kung ang mga naghaharing uri (elitista/nakaririwasa) ay wala ring iniisip kundi ang busabusin ang maralita at walang pakialam sa pagwawalanghiya ng mga nasa poder na maliwanag na kanila ring kakulay, maghihintay na lamang bang mamuti ang mata sa gutom? hindi ba’t kikilos nang naaayon sa pangangailangan kahit sabihin pang malayo sa mga minamahal at makipagsapalaran sa ibayong dagat? kurakot, sinungaling, mandaraya at walang pakialam na pamunuan, ano ang aasahan naming walang inabot na mataas na pinag-aralan, walang kabuhayan at hindi magawang sa mga katulad mo/ninyo ay makipagsabayan?
huwag sanang insultuhin ang katulad naming napilitan lamang na mangibang bayan dahil walang maibigay na disenteng pagkakakitaan ang ating pamahalaang walang inatupag kundi paasahin sa wala ang katulad naming isang kahig isang tuka. na dinadagdagan pa ng pang-iinsulto ng katulad mong hindi rin kami magawang akayin at tulungang iangat sa aming abang kalagayan.
bakit hindi ka na lamang kumandidato bilang isang senador o pangulo upang maipatupad mo ang nilalaman ng iyong kaisipan? magagawa mo kayang katawanin ang kapakanan ng karaniwang mamamayan? o kalabanin ang mga ganid na galamay ng huwad, sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw na pamunuan?
Ang napansin ko lang ng basahin ko ang mga sulat nyo mga kabayan, mga kapuso ay masyado kayong nahatak at nahila ni benign-o. Ang paksa sa itaas ay si Cesar Monta-no at sa kahihila sa inyo ni benign-o ay nahatak kayo sa personal na mga katangian at mga di kanais nais na katangian ng ating mga kabayang pinoy. Nakakalungkot isipin na hindi tuloy kayo makapagbigay ng mga magagandang mungkahi at suhestiyon dahil nasilo kayo ni benign-o sa kanyang mga karunungang pinagsunugan niya ng kilay ng mahabang panahon. At natural lamang na gamitin niya ang kanyang talino dahil kung hindi ay matutulad lamang siya sa isang batingaw na walang tunog. Mga kapuso, relax lang tayo… Kapag namatay tayo ang ating karunungan ay mapapasa kanino kaya?
sugar ray, (he heh) hindi naman. may kaugnayan din naman si machete sa usapan dahil hindi rin niya gaanong maunawaan na ginagamit lamang siyang crowd drawer ng immUNITY ticket, gayundi si pambasag mukhang kamao mani pakyaw.
kabilang din sila (machete at mani) sa mga tinutukoy kong hindi kayang unawain ang sobrang matayog na kaisipan ni benign0.
….., gayundin si pambasag mukhang kamao ……
Simula nang sumulpot itong si Benigno at Justiceleage kuno, tumaas na naman ang dugo ko. Kung puwede lang batukin ko ng sabay-sabay ang dalawa. Etong si benignO, capital letter pa ang O. Ibig niyang sabihin BENIGN ANG ORGAN NIYA. May benign na cancer o ano ang ari niya, siya ang nakakaalam.
Benigno,
Leonard has raised a very valid point here “Ang paksa sa itaas ay si Cesar Monta-no.”
And I beg to differ too Mr Benigno, Gloria and her treacherous government has pulled and is stilling pulling the country down to the gutter – she is the one factor that must be thrashed in the coming elections by voting out her cabal of the more corrupt politicians.
Besides, you refuse to do the job, be be the local “Ghandi” to achieve what you preach. You will also notice that raising the spectre of “poor, inept Pinoyhood” in this blog is not getting you nor anybody anywhere so, what exactly is your point?
Agree with cvj “Without such consumers, our economy would have long ago fallen into a liquidity trap.”
Right off the bat, quoting Benigno on February 20th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
“Where are the results? ”
Simple, Gloria and Joe de Venecia were waylaid in their attempt to ram cha-cha down the throats of the Filipino people. Something not to laugh about.
Gloria may pretend to believe that she is leading the nation – she ain’t, she’s simply reacting; is being thrashed left right center even by those who supported her in 2001 – they realized this woman who is afflicted with moral dwarfism cannot and will never “walk the talk”.
Gloria is OBLIGED to spend every bit of political and financial she has been trying to set aside for herself and her family to hold on to her perch to thwart dissent – that’s a good start and a good result.
I’m pretty sure, Benigno that brilliant and clever as you are, very concerned and brazenly bold and daring as you are, patriotic though “burgis” as you are, you will find hundreds if not thousands of “results” that you can add here.
Ooops, Gloria is OBLIGED to spend every bit of political and financial CAPITAL she has been STEALING and trying to set aside for herself and her family to hold on to her perch to thwart dissent – that’s a good start and a good result.
Korek ka dyan MRivera,
Hindi kasalanan ng taong bayan in general. At kaya nga kailangang ang bansa ay may gobyerno (meaning Government that governs) eh, TO LEAD THE PEOPLE TO PROGRESS! Eh kay Gloria…TO DISASTER!!!
O baka may umapila na naman na iyan ang binoto ng tao, Eh di ba nga she STOLE her way to PRESIDENCY, not Once but Twice!!!
Benigno is an intelligent man, however some of his ideas are out of proportion, some of his perspectives has no direction. He can be a good communicator, an orator if he only focus his attention in the topic of the conversation.
BenignO:
Not that kind of warm Pinoys bodies I meant, what you’ve in mind. If we can find them, I would like to see “One Million Intelligent Pinoys” at the gates of Malacanang. This is what I meant by warm bodies, just want to make a clarification, so I won’t be understood.
Toney Cuevas:
A “One Million Intelligent Pinoys” at the gate of Malacanang is hard to accomplish, it is a pipe dream and a blessing. Philippine’s institutions of higher learning produced that numbers but, our country suffered a set back of brain-drain, They abandoned the country and looking for a greener pasture ‘cause our homeland is devastated with unending drought.
Cocoy,
There are only three kinds of people.1 Those who make things happen, 2 Those who wait for things to happen,
3 Those who don’t know what the fuck happened.
Results happen when it’s time.Weder-weder lang yan.
Kahit nga aso tumitigil sa pagkahol,Si Benigno pa pa kaya?
Apoy:
Wen,Manong!Agree ako sa iyo.
Lakay,
Hindi ka pa ba nakakakitang asong ulol? Kaya hindi kumakahol kasi tumutulo ang laway at bumubula ang bibig.
Bro,
Ang asong ulol pag dumaan na sa apoy, pulutan pa rin.
Bakit pa idadaan ang asong ulol sa apoy puwede naman gawing kilawin.
Bad trip, ang haba ng na-type kong sagot kay BenignO, kinain ng laho.
Pasensiya ka na pards. Ako ang pumutol kasi masyadong masagwa na ang mga kasunod.
First of all, to all those who are wondering whether or not I am “Filipino”, I might throw this question back: Does it matter? If a Nigerian said the same things about the Philippines that I said in this blog and wrote in my website, does it change the validity or invalidity of these assertions? Does it change the kinds of counterarguments that you all need to come up with to debunk them?
Let’s not presume to be the judge of what it means to be Filipino or not Filipino, considering that it seems like no one really knows what or who the Filipino is at the moment. 😀
If we’re all cool with that then allow me to move on… 😉
Mr. cvj:
“Benign0, don’t you realize that your analysis, in a large part, is an ad-hominem (not to mention unnecessarily racist) attack against the Filipino people in general and the masa in particular?”
Cite specific examples of where I make “racist” remarks please. I don’t make any assertions based on skin colour or physical features. Maybe you ought to direct your sights to those who are fond of calling a sitting president “unano” (What’s wrong with being short?).
And ad hominem, you say? I don’t think so. Because it is the nature of the character of Pinoy society and how it is reflected in how we conduct our politics that I make an issue.
“but isn’t this more the fault of the our businessmen and entrepreneurs (a lot of whom lack the capacity to innovate and are good only at extracting quasi-rents or keeping wages low) and our government (which is unable to promote an environment conducive to doing business honestly)? ”
But one can argue that in every Pinoy individual lies a potential entrepeneur. So you criticism of Pinoy businessmen and entrepeneurs can be extended to the society at large. Businessmen, and government are integral components of Pinoy society. To divorce and isolate them from the larger society in order to sting them up to be tarred and feathered for the ills of society is a circular argument.
“The laborers/consumers (including the ‘Indo-Malay’ Pinoys you deride), on the other hand, should be commended for propping-up the economy with their hard earned income”
This is that populist sentiment that hobbles any effort to imbue an ethic of self reliance in the Filipino. You conveniently overlook the fact that this “hard-earned income” that our heroic labourers supposedly use to “prop up the economy” is income made possible by the enterprises that employ them and are owned by these businessmen that you for your part deride.
Labour is worthless if there is no capital organised around enterprises to create the organisations which in turn create the demand for said labour. In the same way, all that oil in the Gulf would be worthless if it weren’t for the energy-consuming industries that the developed world had created.
And as for your similar placement of consumption onto the pedestal of Pinoy heroism, well, to be sure there is nothing wrong with consumption as it creates the final demand for the industrial activity of any economy. But in a developing country like the Philippines which supplies raw materials to countries who then turn these into the toys, trinkets, and karaoke machines that the families of our OFW-heroes purchase for 10x the value of the raw materials supplied to produce them, well, you can see how easily a once-fertile and resource-rich country like the Philippines ended up the over-populated wasteland that it is today.
Mr. Toney Cuevas:
“Not that kind of warm Pinoys bodies I meant, what you’ve in mind. If we can find them, I would like to see “One Million Intelligent Pinoys” at the gates of Malacanang. This is what I meant by warm bodies, just want to make a clarification, so I won’t be understood.”
I stand corrected. 😉 Cheer-yo! 😀
Apoy,Artsee,Tongue-t:
Kayong tatlo tigilan na ninyo si Benigno,di na ba kayo naawa sa kanya?Gumastos na nga sa pag-publish ng libro niya,at siguro di ba nabawi ang puhunan.Artsee: bilhin mo na lang ang lahat ng kopya tapos padalhan mo ako ng isa.
Pero masarap siguro ang kuwentuhan pag may inuman,may nakahanda na pala kayo ng aso at bumabaga na ang apoy,sige painit na ninyo,huwag na lang ang isama ang dila sa kilawin.
Artsee: Bili ka na ng isang truck na beer ng maumpisahan na.
“But one can argue that in every Pinoy individual lies a potential entrepeneur.”
But the problem with most of these “individuals” is they don’t even have enough money for food and basic necessities. How can they be enterpreneurs kung walang magandang government policies. I have worked in a bank, and the bank or any legit lending institutions will not lend you money unless you have good paying capacity. This is one of the things we are pointing our here – GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICIES that would really HELP benefit the poor.
And actually we can see how hard they try now in this trying times, as evidence by the numbers of street vendors, even how dangerous it is to go against the rules, to sell their wares, only to have food in their tables. Oh, if only the government would help them! GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICIES TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY!
“This is one of the things we are pointing our here – GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICIES that would really HELP benefit the poor.”
The Chinese used to be taho and balut vendors and were treated like 3rd class citizens by Pinoys. They didn’t need “good government policies” to prosper. In fact they prospered despite rotten governance.
Ah, good counsel there Benigno!
I knew you had it in you! Clever, wily Benigno.
Why didn’t we think of that? Make 3rd class citizens, the Pinoys, taho and balut vendors. They will prosper despite rotten governance.
Toldya Benigno, you are the local burgis Ghandi re-incarnate.
Yes they lived here in the Philippines but these Chinoys were being helped by Chinoys and pure Chinese capitalists who are getting help from their country so that they can establish a base here. That is why we have the Chinatown now. And this is waht we should be doing also. But the moneyed elites would not do because they want to monopolize. And they can even control an inept government.
“Yes they lived here in the Philippines but these Chinoys were being helped by Chinoys and pure Chinese capitalists who are getting help from their country so that they can establish a base here. That is why we have the Chinatown now”
Then that begs the question: How come Pinoys are so pathetically unable to help and support one another the way the Chinese do?
If only government money would be put into these policies instead of wasting it to their selfish ends, corrupted money that were used for bribes and buy-outs.
Ask the government and the elites!!!
The Chinese have long visions. Their government financed the Chinese immigrants so they can establish their Chinatowns, in different countries, they can now do their trades in these places. Look at how their products are flooding these countries.
Exactly.
Compare that to Pinoys who are all but shortsighted. The discussions don’t get below personalities, and the outlook doesn’t go beyond the next election.
benigyeS, bakit kayo maiingit sa mga Chinese? Iba ang Chinese, may pagkakaisa at nagtutulungan. Masakit man sabihin ay iyan ang katotohanan. Ang pagbabago ay dapat mula sa atin mga sarili. Tsinoy ako kaya nasa gitna. Ang hirap kasi sa atin mga Pinoy puro inggitan at siraan. Ang ugaling ito ay dala hanggang sa ibang bansa.
Cokecoy, nabanggit mo ang beer. Ang iniinum ko Tsing Tao Beer. Bakit truck lang…isang container or barko ng beer gusto mo?
benign0,
kung papipiliin ka? ano ang mas gugustuhin mo?
rickshaw o calesa?
lambanog o vodka?
tinapay, monay, spanish bread(bagong tule), nilupak, nilagang kamote, bananaQ, tupig, pianono, galyetas o mash potato?
champuy artsee, syempre binibili ko sa tindahan yan.
Artsee:
Hindi ako mahilig sa beer,Johnie walker blue na lang medyo okey pa.
Mang Nelbar, bakit kung ako “champoy” ang sinabi mo? Sana man lang Siopao, Mami at Siomai.
Cokecoy, dapat Coke na lang ang inumin mo, iyong Diet Coke. Johnie Walker? Huwag na. Ayaw ko nang marinig ang pangalang Johnie dahil naaalala ko si Johnie Ponce Enrile.
Ang galing naman ng pinag-uusapan dito. 😀
Benign0, in terms of specific examples of racist remarks, here’s a statement you made in your own blog (Posted: 12 Jun 2006 at 9:53pm):
With that background, i know that your analysis harbors an element of racism which leads you to superficial generalizations on the character of the Tsinoy vs. the Pinoy communities. Your initial observations are ok as starting points, but i have an issue with the depth of your analysis and the resulting conclusions that you make.
An example of your tendency to leap into wrong conclusions, when i criticize our businessmen for extracting quasi-rents and keeping wages low, you leap to the conclusion that i’m criticizing entrepreneurs as a whole. It is clear that i have criticize only those who engage in such practices.
Another example is your analysis of why we have an underdeveloped manufacturing base. The reason why we were not able to establish a domestic manufacturing base comparable to our neighbors has more to do with the policies that our government failed to pursue, rather than the innate ability of our Pinoy (would-be) entrepreneurs.
Lastly, it is useless for you to argue that labor is ‘worthless’ without capital because the reverse is also true, so it follows that we have to value both. It’s like engaging into an argument on whether night or day is more important. You have to recognize the systemic character of these things and recognize the worth each element (i.e. labor, capital, land) for its own contributions. What you do instead is favor one element over the other which strikes me as one-sided.
the world won’t care about anybody’s self esteem. the world will expect anyone to accomplish something BEFORE he/she feels good about himslef/herself.
it’s more like you lead first and show example before drowning anyone you feel useless.
cvj, now you’ve seen benign0’s hidden color which you failed to realize in another thread, right?
i couldn’t help but sigh on his being too harsh in bringing down the ordinary pinoys to the extent of seemingly disowning his own people, if he still feels considering himself one.
cvj, What blog? I don’t have a blog. 😉
Mrivera, hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit ang hilig ng iilan sa ating mga kababayan na kasuklaman ang kaniyang sariling lahi at kapwa.
Benign0, whatever. I was referring to your ‘getrealphilippines’ website.
cvj,
Ang mga psycholigists, maiintindihan yan kung bakit sila ganyan. Baka may “past experiences” sila na nakaapekto sa kanilang mentalidad. I wonder what.
off topic , quote of the week lang:
“kahit kailan man hindi ako naging traydor sayo”
—–Gloria/Mamu G.(Glenda Garcia, Maging Sino Ka Man … ABS-CBN Soap Opera)
Valeria(Sheryl Cruz) to Jacoba Maisog aka Bakekang(Sunshine Dizon) :
“Isinusuka ka na ng anak mo!”
(Bakekang, GMA Network Telebabad)
cvj, ‘yan nga ang hirap sa ilan nating kababayan (pa kayang maituturing?) na ang akala at pakiramdam sa sarili ay palaging mas nakakaangat sa iba dahil sa taas ng kanilang pinag-aralan.
meron nga akong tanong sa itaas na ni isa ay walang pumapansin tungkol sa mga henyo ng kanikanilang bansa kung ang mga kaisipan bang ginawang batayan at gabay ng kanilang mga kababayan ay sa wikang inggles isinulat – arabo, intsik, koreano, hapon, atbp.
sa kanilang kongreso/parliamentaryo, meron bang gumagamit ng
wikang inggles kapag meron silang sesyon? hindi ba’t sa sarili nilang wika kung saan sila mas nagkakaintindihan? bakit sila mas maunlad sa atin?
meron ba sa kanila ang lumalait at ibinababa ang kababayan nila kung hindi makaintindi ng malalim na inggles?
Ah, so the Pinoy-bashing BenignO has laid the premise for his defense:
Now that you’ve asked my answer is “No, it does not change the validity or invalidity of these assertions”. Since we’ve agreed on that, tell us, where do you now live?
cvj: “this disturbing possibility that an inability to prosper as a nation may be hard-wired into the cultural DNA of Indo-Malays”
Wherever you got that snippet, it seems it is you who are quick to jump to convenient conclusions. If the author of that text raised “the disturbing possibility…” then that is a valid call out don’t you think? One only needs to come up with a logical counter-argument to debunk this “possibility”.
All you do on the other hand is stomp your feet and cry “racist!”.
Tough luck. 😀
As to your “we have to value both” thing, consider this: It is easy for companies to relocate their operations to wherever there are lower wages and better-skilled workers. Labour, on the other hand, have no choice but to go where the capital chooses to plant itself.
Where a society is capital-poor (such as wretched countries like the Philippines), workers are paid pathetic wages. In a society that is capital rich (you know which ones they are), workers are paid handsomely.
So in the hierarchy of valued assets, it seems your hero-labourers (of which the Philippines is vastly abundant in) are at the bottom of the heap. Case in point: A country of only several million such as Sweden adds vastly more value to humanity than the Philippines — a country of almost 90 million.
Mr. Tongue: Keep on guessing. 😀
bagama’t totoo na ang mga kumpanya mas gusto kung saan ang mababang pasahod at mas mahuhusay na manggagawa, HINDI nito binubuo ang larawan. hindi lamang yun ang mga konsiderasyon ng isang negosyante; mas importante sa kanya ang paglalagapakan ng kanyang produkto o ang merkado (market).
ang lakas paggawa (labour, sabi nuong sa itaas) na binubuo ng mga manggagawa at sa pag-ayuda ng ilang imprakstura tulad ng pamahalaan, ay maaring magiging isang matibay na merkado. yaon kung may pag-aayuda.
sa sitwasyon ngayon, ang pamahalaan mismo ang kumikitil sa paglago ng isang matibay na merkado, sa pamamagitan ng DI pag-sangayon sa isang pasahod na tungo sa marangal na pamumuhay.
magkano ba ang minimum wage sa bansa ngayon? PhP 250(?) X 26 days = 6500. wala pang US$200.
ang malilit kong bahay sa probinsya na may motor para sa tubig na deep well, isang 1.5hp na aircon, ref, tv, sound box, at mga ordinaryong ilaw; ang buwanang bayaran sa kuryente ay halos PhP 5,000 !
sa ganito kasimpleng ehemplo, makikita na agad ang malaking problema.
a) ilang bahagdan lamang ng populasyon ang sumasahod ng minimum wage?
b) bakit napakataas ng bayaran sa kuryente sa ‘Pinas, bukod pa sa malimit ang brown-out? (pumapangalawa ito sa Japan sa buong Asya sa kamahalan)
k) kung magtatayo ako ng negosyo na kokunsumo ng kuryente, saan ko babawiin ang gastos, di ba sa mamimili?
kaya kahit anong pilosopiya ng ekonomiks ang gamitin mo sa pag-analisa, malaking bagay ang relasyon ng pamamahala ng isang gobyerno sa kabuuan ng larawan…
ang Sweden sa ginawang ehemplo, sadyang(?) kinalimutan ng may-akda sa itaas na ang kanilang pamahalaan ay nagbibigay hanggang 65% ng kanilang taunang budget na inuukol sa social services.
kabaligtaran ang nangyayari sa ‘Pinas, na ang 30~35% ng budget para lamang sa pagbabayad ng mga kwestiyonableng utang, at lagi tumututol ang Central Bank sa malaking pondo sa social services dahil sa baluktot na dahilan na “wala raw balik ito sa kaban ng bayan”. limot na ang pinakamalaking asset ng bansa sa ngayon ay ang kanyang mga manggagawa! !
p.s. mr. benignO, kung may blog ka, imbitahan mo ako, at duon bigyan ko ng oras at sagutin ang mga kakila-kilabot mong panukala, peks man 🙂
Why shift the burden of proof? Since you were the one who came up with that proposition, it is up to you to prove it.
With good reason since the your analysis brings up the matter of racial inferiority.
zenzennai, lubos na sang-ayon ako sa pagsusuri ninyo, lalo na sa mga sumusunod na kataga:
Sa tingin ko, higit na malalim at makabuluhan ang pag-iisip na ito lalo na kung ihahambing sa mga ibang pagsusuri na panay na lang pagpupuna sa lahing Pilipino.
Agree with cvj there Zen.
“…kaya kahit anong pilosopiya ng ekonomiks ang gamitin mo sa pag-analisa, malaking bagay ang relasyon ng pamamahala ng isang gobyerno sa kabuuan ng larawan…”
No turning or frigging around but the bottom line is “malaking bagay ang relasyon ng pamamahala ng isang gobyerno sa kabuuan ng larawan…” Good governance will yield good economics!
I’m designing a time machine, will probably dial in the year 1957, pick up BenignO and bring him back to the present date.
And the reason he can’t answer my question is because his new non-Filipino nationality will confirm he IS racist. I’m not guessing, BenignO. Your cover’s already been blown. Anyone can livesearch it in PCIJ. It’s there!
BenignO, the self-appointed socio-genius is really a lost cause. Hey, he can’t even convince once educated person in the web, how much more the whole population.
Remember the 3-tiered cure-it-all?
1. Stop paying taxes,
2. Stop obeying the government,
3. Stop patronizing idiot politicians.
Bwahahaha! Very intelligent! Why didn’t we think of that before? Actually, it reflects the kind of person he is – long on faults, short on solutions – exactly the qualities of the last person I fired.
Look who’s links you will find on his website (the culmination of all his “intellectual masterpieces” from grade six to fourth year!) – hatephilippines.org and everyone’s favorite, SassyLawyer’s blog.
You can do better than that, Mr. Know-it-all, and you can shout it out here when one person actually buys your book.
tongue, duda ko na nga ba doon pa sa kabilang thread na merong “madilim at magulong” itinatago ang mamang iyan. sayang, ang kanyang mga sinasabi ay kabaligtaran ng kahulugan ng kanyang pangalan.
benigno – mapagkawanggawa, pangangalaga, pag-aaruga.
tsk. tsk. tsk.
Huwag naman…ano akala nyo kay Cesar walang pera. kayo talaga ang bilis maniwala…ganyang ugali madaling lolokohin ng mga politoko kaya iboboto nyo kaagad katulad ng GO.
ilang pagtutuwid at paglilinaw (clarifications & rectifications):
a) yung 30~35% ng taunang budget ay para LAMANG sa pagbabayad sa tubo (interest) ng mga inutang!
b) kung saan hinugot ni mr. benignO ang 10% (lang ?!) ang kontribusyon ng OFW sa ekenomiya, hindi ko alam. baka ang ibig niyang sabihin, 10% ng populasyon ay nasa ibayong dagat na para maghanap-buhay.
k) ang malinaw at kumpirmado; 60% ng FOREX reserves ng Central Bank ay galing sa remittances ng OFW’s at ng mga residente sa ibayong dagat.
d) ang ensaktong numero mahirap kunin(re: puntong b.), pero madaling palawigin kung gagamitan ng imahinasyon; dahilan sa mga sanga-sangang pangkabuhayang gawain (multiplier effect). halimbawa: ang pagpapatayo ng paupahang bahay, internet cafes, eskwelang pribado, gawaing bukirin, atbp.
o kaya naman, ang pagpapalago ng pera sa pamamagitan ng pampinansyal na instrumento (derivatives).
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efficient = masinop *
efficiency = antas ng sinop
* narinig ko ito sa ilang manggagawa ng iNTEL, na pagbinigkas ito, nangangahulugan kasama na dito ang pulido, mabilis, at mahusay.
p.s. kung meron mang hindi nakakatuya sa mga terminong sariling wika na gamit ko, patawad. handa akong matuto lalo na’t may magtuturo. ang totoo niyan, isa akong BISDAK– bisayang daku 🙂
last line should have read: “… hindi nakakatuwa…”
cvj at p.v. ;
salamat. pero hindi ko aakuin ang orihinalidad ng ideyang ito. mangyari, alam na naman ng halos lahat ito, eh. inuulit ko lang…
mahigpit ang paniniwala ko, na kaya pumupunta ang mga kababayan dito kay Ellen HINDI lang dahil gusto nilang makibalita, bagkus sa mas importante pang dahilan: paano SILA makabahagi sa solusyon tungo sa pagbabago kaugnay ng problema.
nagkakaroon lang minsan ng patlang, kasi minsan ang iba mas binibigyan ng malaking panahon ipaliwanag ang mga nangyari/pangyayari imbes pag-usapan at asikasuhin kung paano baguhin ang sitwasyon. salamat, muli.
zenzennai Says:
“efficient = masinop *
efficiency = antas ng sinop
p.s. kung meron mang hindi nakakatuya sa mga terminong sariling wika na gamit ko, patawad. handa akong matuto lalo na’t may magtuturo. ang totoo niyan, isa akong BISDAK– bisayang daku.”
zen, isang napakalaking paghanga para sa iyo sa masusi mong pagsasaliksik sa karagdagang katumbas ng “efficient & efficiency” sa ating sariling wika.
*nakakatuya – nakakainsulto sa tunay na kahulugang tagalog.
(ba)doy,
ayaw mo sa oposisyon dahil nanloloko sila? ikaw, ano ang paniniwala mo? ang mga kaanib ni gloria ay matatapat na lingkod bayan? hindi sila mga kurakot? kapakanan ng taong bayan ang kanilang binibigyang kahalagahan?
sana, hindi na kami umalis diyan sa pilipinas upang makapagtrabaho nang maayos at maitaguyod ang aming mga mahal sa buhay kung maganda ang takbo ng pamumuhay diyan sa ilalim ng pamamahala ng sinungaling, magnanakaw at mandaraya mong prisidinti.
mrivera:
oo nga, ano! maraming salamat sa pagtutuwid !! ibig lang sabihin nito; ang konsepto ng istrikto at sa isang banda ang
pagiging pleksible, mga salik ng isang buhay na literatura, ay natutunghayan din sa ating mga wika. mantakin mo, mali lang ang ispeling, nag-iiba na ang anyo ng isang
pangungusap! hindi rin malayo sa Ingles…
kinikilala naman nating lahat, na maraming pagkukulang ang ating wika. ang isang dahilan ay ang maligamgam na pagtangkilik at pagpapaunlad ng sariling kultura, bagay na malungkot. gayunpaman, hindi ito dapat magpahina sa atin at gawing dahilan para i-abandona ito.
halimbawa; mga ilang daang taon ang nakakaraan, ang lingua franca ng Old World ay ang salitang Pranses. mga aristokrata ng Bavaria, Rusya, Scandinavia, atbp., ang ruta ng “kaalaman at kultura” ay ang Pransya.
matatandaan na kahit na ang mga Aleman, dumaan din sa puntong sila ay nakaramdam ng pagkahiya at agam-agam sa kahusayan ng kanilang wika. pero nanaig ang pagpupursige at pagkakaintindihan sa hanay ng mga Aleman: at ang isang NAGING matingkad na kontribusyon nito sa mundo ng literatura ay ang Das Kapital ni Marx, na nagbunsod ng mataas na kamalayan ng respeto sa sarili sa hanay ng sambayanan.
at ang patuloy na paninimba ng panalo ang produkto ng Pamantasan ng Vienna–salitang Aleman ang gamit, ng mga Nobel Prizes.
lalo na ang mga Ruso; naisipan na rin nilang gawing Pranses ang sariling wika, mabuti para sa kanila at hindi ito natuloy. nabighani at pinahanga ni Tolstoy ang buong mundo sa kanyang obrang Anna Karenina at War and Peace, nagbunsod ng pagkahirang ng wikang Ruso bilang isang seryoso at de-kalidad na literatura. ang mga akademya ng sining at agham ng nabuwag na USSR ay kinikilala at respetado sa buong mundo.
kaya, ng mahati ang bansa isang dekada na ang nakaraan, ang mga dalubhasa at mananaliksik na Ruso ay naging paboritong piratahin ng mga ‘Merkano at Aleman na laboratoryong pananaliksik (research labs): HINDI dahil sa husay nila sa Ingles o Aleman, dahil karamihan sa kanila Ruso lang ang alam, kundi dahil sa gamay nila ang matematika at siyensya–mga salik na nagpapatakbo ng mga laboratoryo, na siyang gulong ng pagbabago ng teknolohiya at mga makina.
sa mga nagsasabi na Ingles ang susi ng pag-unlad ng bansang Pilipinas: balikan ninyo ang kasaysayan ng mga bansang ito nuong nakaraang siglo…
“sa mga nagsasabi na Ingles ang susi ng pag-unlad ng bansang Pilipinas: balikan ninyo ang kasaysayan ng mga bansang ito nuong nakaraang siglo…”
zen, ang ipinagtataka ko nga lang, bakit iba nating kababayan, matapos makatuntong sa pamantasan, makagradweyt sa kinuhang kurso, nagpakadalubhasa, nagkaroon ng masteral at PhD, nakasulat ng librong magsisilbing gabay daw sa pag-unlad, pilit nilang sinisikil ang pagpapahalaga sa sariling wika ng katulad naming kulang sa pinag-aralan at pilit ding ibinubunton sa amin ang sisi kung bakit nagsulputan ang mga palpak na pulitiko? hindi ba mas tamang kung meron silang mga hakbanging naiisip na magtutuwid sa lahat ng kamalian at aakay upang matamo ang inaasam na kaunlaran, kumandidato silang senador o presidente at kung papalarin, saka nila ipatupad ang kanilang nais. ang duda ko lang, baka kung sila rin ang nasa puwesto, kung ano ang inaayawan nila sa iba, ganun din ang gagawin nila. ano ang ipinag-iba nila?
dito sa saudi arabia, wala akong naririnig na arabo na kumausap sa kapwa arabo ng inggles, kahit pareho silang manedyer sa gobyernong pag-aaring korporasyo o sa pribado man. ang hapon, ganun din, ang mga koreano, ang mga intsik, ang mga lebanese. hindi naman sa inggles sila kumukuha ng batayan, bakit sila umunlad?
bakit ang iba nating kababayang may mataas na pinag-aralan, iba ang trato sa ordinaryong kapwa pinoy?