Lawyer Harry Roque today got several text messages and a phone call threatening him and his family harm unless he stops lawyering for “destabilizers”.
One message gave a prize of P5 million for his head and gave a number to contact. We called up the number and it turned out to be the Public Affairs of the Philippine Army.
The first message which came at about 1 p.m. said “Dura lex sed lex. Our law maybe harsh bt it’s still our law. Not all the time u are lucky, ur end is near and ur family.”
After a while he got the second message:”Atty. Roque, RIP. Kami sa bagong hukbong bayan ay patuloy ang pagmanman sa mga ginagawa mong kataksilan sa bayan muli kaming magbabala to shut yor fishy mouth.”
A third and fourth messages came from cellphone numbers 0910-701-1941 with almost the same message: “To all interested persons: we are giving away P5 M / $100,000 as a reward for the capture of Harry Roque, dead or alive. Atty. Roque is a lawyer of terrorist communist grp in the Phils. A destabilizer insurgent, an anti-American. Caution: hes armed & dangerous. Any info on his whereabouts, pls call or text 117 or 09152546579.
We called up 09152546579 and a woman answered, “Public Affairs PA”. I asked what “PA” means and she replied, “Philippine Army.”
We talked with Maj. Ernesto Torres,Jr. spokesman of the Philippine Army and he denied having to do with any messages sent to Roque, whom he does not know.
Before the text messages came, Roque, has opposed the request for asylum of former Agriculture Undersecretary Jocelyn “Jocjoc” Bolante in the United States, got a call in his cellphone at about 10:am. A man which sounded like in his 50’s introduced himself as “Jun Santos”.
Roque said Santos warned him “Binabalaan namin kayo. Tumigil na kayo sa destabilization. Stop lawyering for destabilizers.”
When Roque asked with what group he belongs, the man said “Kabalikat ng Mamamayang Pilipino”. That’s KAMPI, the political party founded by Gloria Arroyo.
Roque, who is with the University of the Philippines’ Institute of International Legal Studies and is the counsel for the civil class suit against Mike Arroyo filed by journalists facing libel suits from him, suspects that the threat is from Malacañang.
Roque is also a member of the legal team helping rape complainant “Nicole” n the case against US serviceman Lance Corporal Daniel Smith.
Roque said he was startled at first by the threatening call and text messages. But “I do what I have to do,” he said.
Sa iyo Harry Roque wag kang matakot…ang gumagawa ng mabuti ay di dapat magkaroon na kaunting takot sa kanyang puso pagkat lalampi mo ang Diyos..
Ipagdadasal kita Mr. Roque at ang ating bayan na magkaroon ng KALAYAAN…. Naniniwala ako makakamit na natin ang ating inaasam kung tayo’y magkakaisa….
Mabuhay ka Mr. Roque…
sana magsenador ka na rin para iboboto kita…
I mean kakampi mo ang DIYOS….MR. Harry Roque… ITULOY mo ang LABAN…Laban nating itong lahat….
Ang mamatay ng dahil sa bayan ay may mahalagang nakamtan kesa ang magkamal ng salapi ng bayan….
These are serious allegations, Ellen. Did the Public Affairs woman confirm the existence of the $100,000 reward for Harry Roque (who is a dear and personal friend that I’ve been helping myself on the Jocjoc Bolante case)?
What do you think people should do about this information you have posted? How credible is it, what value should we place on it. I am concerned only for good man Harry, mind you.
Regarding this threat to Atty Harry Roque it seems that YesArms, as reported this week are tracking the wrong person in Garci, it seems that who they should be tracking is someone further up the chain of command. Capture that one and the shoe will be on the other foot. Law & order has to be brought under control, and quickly. If its left to the present mob of PNP & Justices to do their duties we are doomed. Anna just gave us an example of five murders that were solved within a week, solved meaning arrested and charged before a court of law, not just suspects.
it is heartening to note that there are still people like harry roque who do what they have to do instead of what they were told to do. sometimes just telling the truth is heroic enough but doing something to find and defend the truth for me is more than heroic at a time like this.
So, Ellen, the Great Switik and her lackeys are now resorting to this kind of hoodlumism thinking that just because they have handed the horny US soldier to the US Embassy they can now do what they want to anybody demanding for the return of the rule of law in the Philippines that they even ironically say tag as destabilization? Wow, talaga naman!
sino pa ba ang magpapaabot ng ganitong banta kundi ang mga galamay ng baliw na babaeng mukhang dagang ayaw umalis sa kanyang lungga sa loob ng malakanyang?
kung ang contact number ay sa public affairs office ng philippine army, siguro sira na ang mga ulo ng pinuno ng nasabing tanggapan at ni general tolentino dahil pinapayagan niya ang ganitong kawalanghiyaan!
but who is destabilizing the people’s peace and freedom? di ba’t sila ding mga nagbibintang ng panggugulo at pananakot?
Looking at the names of all the personalities that have received these threats, is there a name in their private or business life where that name is percieved to be a problem and that name is a common denominator. Thats where the investigation starts.
No doubt about that, Ellen. The threat comes from the Malacanang squatters, who know Roque has the power and ability to expose them. They think that without Roque, there will be no one else to continue the fight against this oppressive regime via legal means.
What destabilization are they talking about when they are the destabilizers themselves. Utak criminal talaga!
On the other hand, this is another tactic, no doubt, to weaken the resolve of Filipinos to try to remove the Great Switik, her husband and all the evil men working for them from their present positions by frightening then through threat, intimidation and harrassment.
I have a feeling that these crooks are trying to create a situation to make their plan to declare Martial Law valid even when it is not necessary. They fear a similar defeat as that of Bush in last year’s election that is why they want to stop it by creating a state of chaos and anarchy.
Nice try, Bansot! Bistado ka na! Give up ka na lang!
To Atty Roque, we say, “Hindi ka nag-iisa!” God will protect you, we know. Dasal lang. And don’t stop the fight!
Enough is enough. This oppression and abuses should be stopped. PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! ALIS DIYAN!
I called up again and talked with Major Nestor Torres, spokesman of the Philippine Army and he said he doesn’t know Harry Roque. He denied having to do with any messages sent to Roque, much more a death threat.
He said the number is known to many because they are a public affairs office.
Yuko, please delete the “bad words” in your comments. I’ve deleted it in your past comments.
Hang in there, Atty. Roque!
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Let’s text messages to 0910711941 or 09152546579:
“Dura lex sed lex. Our law maybe harsh bt it’s still our law. Not all the time u are lucky, ur end is near, too.”
To Ms. Ellen’s Bloggers, let’s go get ’em!
Related topic:
Juan Manggagawa wrote:
> January 3, 2007
> Rep. Renato Magtubo
> Partido ng Manggagawa
>
> Wolves in sheep’s clothing
>
> The paid ad by the capitalists is the opening salvo in their all out
> war against the legislated wage hike. The workers cannot but declare
> the final push for the passage of the P125 wage bill.
>
> We appeal to the Senate to give the workers a happy new year and to
> disregard the black propaganda of these prophets of doom. When
> Congress resumes session on January 22, workers will mobilize to lobby
> the senators to expedite the hearings and passage of the legislated
> wage hike.
>
> Capitalists are wolves in sheep’s clothing, claiming a desire to save
> the economy from the catastrophe of a legislated wage hike when in
> fact they are just out to protect their profits from the workers’
> claim to the fruits of our labor.
>
> House Bill 345 which mandates a P125 wage increase over three years is
> already a compromise by the workers. Will paying P45 additional in
> wages for the first year bankrupt a small capitalist? Impossible!
>
> For example, a gas station owner with 10 gas attendants will fork out
> P450 more in wages per day, equivalent to sales of around 10 liters of
> gas or the cost of five cups of Starbucks coffee. It will hardly dent
> the lifestyle of even a small capitalist but it will go a long way to
> feed, house, heal and school a worker’s family.
>
> Capitalists say the legislated wage hike will cost the economy P1.2
> trillion over three years. Truth is it will hurt not the economy but
> their pockets! What they do not speak of is that the capitalist and
> the state still owe the workers the lost purchasing power of their
> wages since 1989 despite the series of wage orders. [293% wage
> increase from P89 in 1989 to P350 today versus 342% hike in prices
> over the same period]
>
> Worse, they owe workers a real wage increase commensurate with the
> greater productivity of labor. At an average of 5 per cent yearly
> economic growth since 1989 and computing from P5 trillion GDP this
> year means workers generated a P4.25 trillion in new wealth from
> increased labor productivity. [5% X 17 years X P5 trillion]
>
> Not a cent of which have trickled down to the workers! That new wealth
> created by greater labor productivity is more than three times what
> the workers are now claiming through a legislated wage hike.
>
> Such a hike will have a positive multiplier effect on the economy as
> industry and the informal sector produce more in line with bigger
> consumer spending. The workers demand the abolition not strengthening
> of the wage boards for their track record shows they are mere tools in
> the cheap labor policy of the capitalists and the state.
>
> We call on all of organized and unorganized labor to unite in the face
> of capitalist resistance to the legislated wage hike. Carpe diem! ###
Atty. Roque should approach international groups for protection.
ellen, s’yempre, idi-deny ni major torres ‘yang threat na ‘yan, pero hindi niya maitatanggi na ang may kagagawan ay miyembro ng philippine army. anong hakbang ang ginawa nila upang matukoy ang source o may ari ng contact number?
Sorry, Ellen, can’t help it. Nakakakulo ng dugo kasi! But then, what’s bad about horny?
Is someone trying to be almighty in this blog? Too much oppression! It should be stopped now!
As for the Major of the PA office, did he explain how such call could be traced to their office? Could it be that they have a party line, something in fact unthinkable where I am based but very common in the Philippines?
Backward pa rin ha? Panay kasi ang nakaw so that there is no money to be used for improvement of facilities and equipments in government offices there! Wala na bang katapusan?
Ellen:
Is your email ‘blocked’
I agree with “GodSaveDConstitution Says: January 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pm”.
And if the Philippine Army is morally consistent, they should investigate with not a minute lost to determine who or which group has been committing this outrageous farce!
Chabeli:
As far as international lawyers’ groups are concerned, I think Atty. Roque is fairly well-connected.
He is actually not the only one who has received threats even from people who are bound by law to protect Filipinos like him. Judge Romy Capulong in fact received threats for being a lawyer of peasants striking at the Arroyo hacienda in Tarlac.
Once when he was in Tokyo attending an international tribunal where he served as Chief Prosecutor, he got a call regarding some men in uniform looking for him complete with guns and all. Fortunately, he was abroad and they failed to take him with them. His fellow lawyers, pastors and priests in that strike were not so lucky, though!
Natakot din yata iyong mga papatay sa kaniya when they found out that he had lots of international connections having served as judge in the International Court of Justice, and they would be disadvantaged by killing him.
Parang “Conspiracy Theory,” di ba? It should be stopped by all means!
Anna:
I agree with you, but if there was a proper professional functioning NBI they would be investigating automatically as a matter of course.
WWNL,
Indeed! But perhaps they would like to investigate, just that they are still awaiting approval from Malacanang on how they should submit their report.
or if they should investigate the threats to Atty Roque at all!
Yuko,
I met Romy Capulong in the rally against the bogus Philippine president when she visited Brussels. Must say, I was impressed by the immense moral courage of the man!
Day after day there is a new incident whereby the rule of law is trampled on. It will only stop when the citizens of this republic remove this fake president and her rotten administration. There is nobody left to complain to, not the PNP, NBI, Congressmen, Judiciary, Bishops nobody at all.
Its time for the people to wake up and put there house in order otherwise if they don’t, it will only become worse.
We know very very well that there are many problems in all and every institution and they’re becoming weaker and weaker. We also know that all these damaged institutions lead to the office of GMA. Therefore like the barrel of apples your first step is to remove the rotten apple and we all know who she is.
Anna:
The Capulongs are in fact the direct descendants of Lakan Dula, not the bogus president, who is trying hard to claim royalty!
You bet, Judge Capulong has moral fiber and all. So, who says that the Creepy Switik is indispensible and the only one qualified to be president even when she should have been disqualified (no need for any impeachment in fact), arrested and prosecuted upon discovery and revelation of the Garci tapes!
When we learned of the assassination attempt on his life, his lawyer friends in Japan immediately wrote a petition they submitted to the Japanese government and the International Court of Justice protesting against such barbaric act. I guess the Philippine ambassador was summoned by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to explain about it.
Ganoon katindi, Anna, ang suppression of freedom under this bogus regime.
WWNL:
A lot many of the 800 victims of extrajudicial killings of this bogus regime are clergies of some independent churches, lawyers, journalists and even public officials sympathetic to the little people. So, who says they are Communists?
I understand meron din mga Catholic priests and nuns ang nabubugbog but none has been reported killed as yet. Threats lang like the threats on the lives of the cardinal in Dagupan and Novaliches. I understand that those who are severey threatened are just removed from the Philippines to save them from being killed like a Catholic priest I know who ran a foundation funded by Erap’s charity.
Frankly, despite the presence of Ka Roger, the bogey commie is a thing of the past. I know a lot many people who have received threats for doing good for their compatriots, but they are not communists, just plain and simple nationalists who have become activists.
I take my hat off to them, for despite the threats, they still do what they feel they are God-driven and destined to do and suffer for them!
Me? I am not a commie. I have never voted for the Communist Party of Japan. I support the Socialist Party of Japan because its head is a friend of mine, and the recently established Minshuto. I don’t like Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung! I love Jesus Christ, the original socialist because He loves mankind!
Thank God for Harry Roque! May God protect and bless Him! May God see it fit to punish immediately anyone who would try to harm this God-fearing, good and patriotic Filipino!
ystakei:
Don’t know where you read that I ever commented with the word “Communist”. I stated the Bishops in my list of people that are as “nobody left to complain to”.
Your commenting to me as if I never talk to priest, maybe this subject is getting too much for you, just relax a little and act like the christian you say you are. Don’t agree with my opinion by all means, but don’t put words into people’s mouth’s. You should be attacking GMA and her administration not me, I’m already converted (smile).
Relax, you say? You bet, I am, WWNL. Why should I not be? We’re safe in Japan. I was stating facts. I’m not putting words into your mouth. I was adding facts to your comments.
Sorry if you misunderstood my intention. Ikaw ang mag-relax. I think you need it, because you are acting like someone suffering from what we call in Japanese as “higaimoso” (persecution syndrome)!
Threatening by whatever medium is a Criminal Offense, plain and simple and should be treated as one. It doesn’t matter if one’s has intention to carry the threat, but by threatening alone that person has committed an indictable offense. And the Police Authorities should initiate investigations right away, before any of these threats materialize.
Vic,
You bet, the case should be investigated immediately by the police, but what when the culprits are the police themselves on orders of the criminal acting as their Chief?
Let’s not immediately conclude that those threats were genuine. They could be hoax or from a prankster. Pero iba na siyempre ang nag-iingat. Philippine Army Public Information is not the unit that carries out this kind of threat. Either they are actually members of the Philippine Army or someone who just picked up a phone number from a military unit. The man who sounded like 50 years old might not be that old at all. Paano naman malalaman ang edad ng isang tao na hindi nakikita. Unless one reaches old age, hindi masyadong nagbabago ang boses ng isang tao. Iyan ang dahilan kung bakit maraming mang-aawit ang maganda pa rin ang boses paglipas ng maraming taon. Besides, it’s easy to change one’s voice either by faking it or using a gadget that can be bought at Magic stores. Sa palagay ko hindi tutoo. Nananakot lang. If some people or there are groups out to harm Atty. Roque, they would just do it without resorting to such repeated threats. Kung susunugin mo ang bahay ng kaibigan, sasabihin mo ba sa kanya nang “Hoy, susunugin ko ang bahay mo”. If you are stealing someone’s properties, would you tell him? Pero ganoon pa man, dapat siyang mag-ingat pati ang kanyang pamilya.
Sorry po mali: “Kung susunugin mo ang bahay ng kaaway…” Isa pang anggulo ay baka mismong may ilan taga-opposition ang may pakana to increase the people’s hatred for Arroyo. Pasensiya na pero posible ito hindi ba? There could be some naughty minds who might even think Harry is planning to run for public office. Magandang strategy ito dahil malapit na naman ang election. But please don’t get me wrong. I myself am very worried about what happened. I was only spreading all possible angles. Let’s just pray for him.
Mali na naman: “I was only presenting…” (not spreading). Harry should now be given security. Even though we cannot prevent determined killers from carrying this out, iba na ang may sapat na sekuridad.
WWNL, appreciate that. Thanks, A.
We-will-never-learn: Hindi naman siguro sinasadya ni Ystakei. I find the other woman more careless in her choice of words. Gaya ng sinabi ko, isipin muna natin ang sinusulat natin bago natin ipadala. I’ve said I’m more tolerant of those who speak and less tolerant of those who write. The reason is simply because when you write, you have all the chance to think and review what you’re written before sending it. Naging ordinary na yata dito ang mga salitang “gago” at “f-u-c-k”. Ang nakakagulat pa nanggagaling ito sa mga iginagalang natin mga babaeng maganda ang layunin na ipinaglalaban. Pero kalimutan mo na iyan kabayan. Dala lang siguro sa sobrang galit kay Arroyo. Ako man nagkakamali din. Peace na lang tayo lahat!
just a little comment on the msunderstandings here. in a way it is easier talking to somebody directly than writing because one can see each other’s face and not recorded.besides, one can always kiss and make up which is very ok specially if the protagonists are of the opposite sex.here in this blog one cannot be too onion skinned.
How so very and extremely sensitive you are Mandirigma… bad words hurt your bones yo say? Wow! Well, if whining and moaning about it here ad vitam eternam allow you feel the pain less, then by all means, go ahead and do it…
So tedious and boring in the extreme, that’s why I appreciate WWNL’s short but straight to the point post – there’s the truly more masculine way of doing things, no whining, no moaning, no whimpering on and on and on and on
Having said all that,I have no real time to nitpick today. Ain’t you just one lucky …. !
ano ga ang gusto ninyo para la’ang mawala ang samaan ng loob na iyan? ala, ay nawawala na kayo sa tema, ey. kapalan na la’ang ng kaunti ang patong ng nipis ng pasensiya at palampasin na kung anuman ang hindi magustuhan sa kumento ng iba. hindi baga’t ang diskusyon ay isang maiging paraan upang mapaghimay himay ang diwang ating ipinaglalaban?
paano ga ang magiging takbo ng daloy ng ilog kung sa dalisdis ay gusto ninyong gawing paitaas ang agos? ay sige, subukan ninyo kung iyan ay pwede, at kapag nangyari, bow na la’ang kame.
Magno,
Roger that!
Heheh!
Btw, just read this in Manila Times:
The Armed Forces spokesman, Lt. Col. Bartolome Bacarro, welcome the resumption of Balikatan.
“If Balikatan continues . . . it will [be] beneficial to the AFP because of the exchange of training,” Bacarro told reporters in Camp Aguinaldo.
My comment: Yeah, yak, yak, yakkity, yak, yak, and yakkity, yak, yak again… Lots of BS to boot!
mandirigma:
I understand you, and appreciate what your saying. Everyone has opinions to express and there’s many times that maybe I don’t agree with a particular opinion. Its my choice to join in a discussion on somebodys comment or to ignore the comment. Its not my habit to attack and insult the writer when putting words into their mouths. I am also prepared to defend my corner when the need arises, and now she knows that for future reference. Thanks mandirigma, take care.
Ms. de brux, how are you? There’s also the truly more feminine way of doing things, no cursing, no profanities, no asking another to swear. At the end of the day, ang talagang kailangan lang naman “respect” sa bawa’t isa. Like what you suggested to WWNL, kalimutan na natin ang lahat. I think he has already learned the lesson (ha, ha…joke lang). Norpil, I agree. Mas okay kung kaharap mo ang isang tao at nakikita mo ang facial reaction. Pero kung minsan nakakapagitaw tayo ng mga salitang masakit na hindi natin sinasadya. Sa pagsusulat, mas may panahon pa tayong mag-isip. We could review what we’ve written before sending it hindi ba? Kaya kung ano ang sinulat, most likely iyan nga ang nilalaman ng isip at puso. Iyan lang naman ay opinion ko lang. But you got a very good point, Norpil.
Roger that too WWNL!
pssssst….. break muna galing sa tribune:
Traders bracing for 46 per dollar
By Ayen Infante
01/03/2007
Local traders are bracing for a 46 per dollar peso rate this year as the currency hit a new six-year high of 48.915 on the first trading day of the new year mainly as a result of a flood of cash transfers from the huge overseas workforce.
The peso closed at its strongest level of 48.915 per dollar, up from 49.03 at the end of 2006 when it rose 7.6 percent against the US unit.
The peso’s previous strongest intra-day level was 48.900 to the dollar on March 23, 2001.
“I think there’s still room for the peso to further appreciate toward the 48.50 level,” Banco de Oro market strategist Jonathan Ravelas said.
The continued strength of the peso, although being boasted by Malacañang as sign of economic take-off, is actually hurting the export industry as the price of Philippine goods become uncompetitive compared with its Asian neighbors.
Thailand, which is also experiencing a surge in the value of the baht, has imposed currency controls that requires a one-year lock up period for a certain percentage of hot funds brought into the country to put a break on the appreciation of its currency.
Filipino-Chinese businessmen said the peso will likely hit 46 per dollar level this year following the expected increase in dollar remittance of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) and foreign investments.
Federation of Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry Inc. (FFCCCII) president Francis Chua, however, said even at the 46 per dollar level of the peso, the business sector has nothing to worry about.
He recalled that during the 1997 region-wide crisis, the peso was at parity with the Thai baht at 33 per dollar. The baht has remained at 30 per dollar until now so why are we complaining, Chua said.
“Foreign funds are likely to continue flowing into the equities market (and) could further boost the peso,” Ravelas added.
Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) Gov. Amando Tetangco said the rally would be sustained given the improving economy.
“The economic fundamentals are looking good. I don’t see anything wrong with the peso as long as its (value is) market-determined,” he said.
The BSP expects remittances to hit $14 billion this year, up from the $12 billion estimated for 2006, given a steady rise in the number of Filipinos working abroad.
Chua said with the peso at 46 per dollar, businessmen should consider export operations involving mixed processing of raw materials, power and labor.
Since the bulk of export requirements depends on imported raw materials, “(the appreciating peso) is not as serious as it looks,” he added.
“If you are an importer, and the peso is strong, then the better for you, while if you are exporter you want a depreciating peso,” he explained.
Most exporters import more for their raw materials with the strong peso, he said. “Businessmen will start having problems if they source most of their raw materials locally,” he added.
In 2006, the peso appreciated by 10 percent, making it one of the best performing currencies in Asia.
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tuwang tuwa sila dahil lumalakas daw ang piso. pero, meon pa bang mabibili sa halagang piso? kabi kabila ang taasan ng mga pangunahing bilihin, paano na kung walang hanapbuhay ang tao? magbibilang ng bituin sa gloryang kalawakan ng katanghaliang tapat?
WWNL, no problem. Sa tutoo lang, magaganda ang mga sulat mo. You carried yourself pretty well. May mga iba kasing mahilig mang-insulto at parang hindi iginagalang ang iba. Like what I explained, kung salita lang mula sa bibig puwedeng hindi aminin. Pero kung sinulat, nandiyan ang ebidensiya. For example, how can one deny that he mentioned “stupid” or “f…k” when these words were clearly written and read by everyone? Pero gaya ng sinabi ko, kalimutan mo na at ako nga kinalimutan ko na iyon amin. Let’s just offer our sincere hearts of PEACE to everyone in this group. Marami pa tayong dapat gawin para mapatalsik si Arroyo. Once she’s ousted, puwede na tayong mag-away away.
Ms. de brux, nabasa mo ba ang reply ni Mr. Herman Tiu Laurel sa comment mo? He agreed with you. Kaya lang mas malalim ang kanyang ipinaliwanag. You can always write to him for clarification and advice. Like Ms. Tordesillas, Mr. Laurel is also a respected journalist. Matapang iyan at may paninindigan. Very consistent sa kanyang political position. What’s more interesting to watch is the falling out between Lacson and his supporters some of whom are journalists. Alam ni Ms. Tordesillas kung sino ang mga tinutukoy kong mga journalists na matagal nang tumutulong kay Lacson pero ngayon ay nagdaramdam sa kanya (Lacson).
“There’s also the truly more feminine way of doing things, no cursing, no profanities, no asking another to swear.”
Hahahahahah!
For once, must say, you’re saying something really sensible there. But you must also learn to accept that cursing, swearing and whatever are no longer reserved for the masculine species just like fighting in wars and front line combats once were…
Lemme tell ya, sensitive as you are that you’d be happy to see a GI-swearing, cursing Jane, Pinay soldier or whoever, saving your ass when push comes to shove in real life combat zone…
Teeh – heeh!
# norpil Says:
January 3rd, 2007 at 5:45 pm
it is heartening to note that there are still people like harry roque who do what they have to do instead of what they were told to do. sometimes just telling the truth is heroic enough but doing something to find and defend the truth for me is more than heroic at a time like this.
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AMEN!
Welcome back, norpil. Missed you :).
Mandirigma,
I already told you when you first raised that that I AIN’T INTERESTED… Learn to let go, man!
Mandirigma,
Your reasoning why gave a warning and not to do it is true to some case, but not all cases. In some case, like Atty. Roque, the party uttering the threats would like to see him stop his “crusading” or else, that could be a hoax or could be real, we want it stop and nobody wants to know of it could be real instead of hoax. Even if it is just a threat, a prankster, or a hoax, letting it go will only reflect the impotence of the Polica Authorities, who should take every threat to a person’s life very, very seriously.
I recall, a lawyer representing the so-called “Al-Queda” family of Scarborough, a human right lawyer had to get off the case, when the Police can not trace the threats of his person. The lawyer suspected that it was coming from the intellegence community of a “foreign” country. It could be a hoax, but a case as serious as what Atty. Roque is handling and so was the other lawyer I mentioned, sometimes the desired result can be achieved.
Sorry, Ms. de brux. I’ll be patient and just wait till you become interested. Pero ano ba ang interest mo? Makipag-away? He, he…joke lang ha? Kinukumusta ka si Mr. Herman Tiu Laurel. I told him you’re busy forming another Gabriela group in Europe. Good luck daw, sabi niya.
Well Vic, you’re partly correct. I don’t have to agree with you, should I? Nasabi ko naman na dapat din mag-ingat si Harry. I now remember that there was at least one Saddam’s lawyer who was killed. Ang mga kaaway gagamitin ang pananakot para matalo o humina ang kaso. That, I agree. Pero hindi na bago iyan sa mga abogado, pulitiko, journalists. Threats are common to these people isn’t it? Kung oras mo na, oras mo. Ang mga professional killers titira na lang sila na walang pasabi.
“We talked with Major. Nestor Torres, spokesman of the Philippine Army and he denied having to do with any messages sent to Roque, whom he does not know.”
Let’s wait when this death threat calls to Atty. Roque begins to burn Glueria’s hands. She’ll put out another sacrificial bu(o)y-toy!
Mandirigma,
You are being absolutely obnoxious there! You have breached border of indecency by saying “I told him you’re busy forming another Gabriela group in Europe.”
Who are you to say that I’m doing what I’m NOT doing?
To insinuate such things is hugely unfair to the bona-fide members of Gabriela, wherever they may be. Do you realize that you may be causing serious harm to the Gabriela movement by SPREADING such wanton, blatant malignant lie!
Who and what gave you the right to even advance such a thing, rightly or wrongly?
I can see pure malice on your part whether you joked or not about it.
You have no moral right to say the least to pretend that you know what my activity is and to assert that as the truth. It is not for you to imply, suggest, pretend to know what I do and what I don’t do in Europe!
Let me tell you, that you are one WHACKO and a SICKO!
thanks chi. i hope i can stay.
Right you are mandirigma, you don’t have to agree with anyone, sometimes I don’t even agree with myself, at least we can agree on something. But You knowing that I’m posting from kingdom far far away (shrek 1 & 2), so far, wala pa naman abogado, o pulitiko, journalists na na tiempohan nang assasin or professional killers dito, manga drug dealers lang at manga bikers, kung minsan selosan at kasakiman. di mawala yan kahit sa-an..
Ms. de brux, naniwala ka naman na sinabi ko iyon kay Mr. Laurel. Of course not. Biro ko lang. I didn’t tell him that. Gabriela is a reputable women’s group na hindi dapat ikahiya. Bagay ka diyan dahil matapang ka at palaban. In a way, why not form such a group similar to it in Europe. I think Ystakei has her own group or groups in Japan. Wala naman masama. I also mentioned Amazon not because I was ridiculing anyone. Pero hindi ba parang Amazona ang mga babaeng palaban na hindi umuurong? Kaya lang nasa bundok sila. Please don’t think that I’m harassing you. Kung minsan kasi kailangan sagutin ang mga binibitiwan mong salita lalo na kapag maanghang.
Nasaan po ba kayo, Vic? You sound like you are somewhere in the Middle East. Ingat lang kabayan.
vic: i like your comment that sometimes you donot even agree with yourself.
Mandirigma wrote:
Philippine Army Public Information is not the unit that carries out this kind of threat. Either they are actually members of the Philippine Army or someone who just picked up a phone number from a military unit.
The Phil Army “dirty tricks department” is the intelligence and security grp (ISG) based inside HPA.
It’s operating arm in metro manila is NCR Intel Scty Unit (ISU).
ISG is akin to Himmler’s SS while ISU is Heydrich’s SD.
Though ISG is under Phil Army, it takes direct orders from Gen Esperon. Gen Tolentino has no say in its covert operations but he has somehow some knowledge. The ISG officers were never replaced despite Gen Tolentino’s program of rotation.
ISU, ISG is capable of mobile monitoring, text msg interception and transcription, and it’s forte is threat and intimidation and “frame ups” not to mention summary executions.
ISG played a major role in the ‘divide and conquer’ tactic that broke down the Magdalos (apologists rebels) and instrumental in LT San Juan’s doctored affidavit implicating personalities he never met. ISG maintains a bartolina inside its compound. There, Magdalo officers are arbitrarily confined, forcing them to sign prepared affidavits.
Unknown to many, ISG is more notorious than ISAFP. Most ISAFP men came from ISG. One can find captured NPAs, ASGs, military rebels and criminals inside ISG.
If the Army has a hand about these threats against Atty Roque, it is not the Public Affairs Office. It must be the ISG.
To Atty Roque, be careful. The chief security officer of Makati mayor Binay among others took the threats lightly.
Go on with the fight. We are behind you.
Sphinx, hindi ba G2 ang ibig sabihin mo sa Philippine Army? Ang alam ko kapag Unit 2 mga intelligence units iyan. G2 for the Army, A2 for Air Force, N2 for Navy. And the highest intelligence group at AFP is this ISAFP. Tama po ba?
Siyanga ano, ano na ang nangyari sa pagpatay sa Chief Security Officer ni Mayor Binay? There are just too many unsolved cases. Parang manok na ang buhay ng isang tao ngayon.
Mandirigma,
Where did you see in any of the posts that I ASSERTED that you were the one whom you said you weren’t… If you are to re-read what I said, I said that your posts or the poster’s comments were SIMILAR to the ones by a poster who was banned.
Did I force you to swear that you were or were not? I merely asked you if you “can swear?”
That’s where the difference lies as opposed to what you said ““I told him you’re busy forming another Gabriela group in Europe.” ” which in itself is a very qualifying statement that you could have done what you purported you DID and there’s no turning around it.
Speaking of sensitivity, I’ve already told you that I ain’t interested and suggested that you should learn to let go…
Why are you insisting on hankering this blog thread with your posts by focusing a lot on my posts about something that’s supposed to be long done away with, forgotten, etc.
Are you not in fact, gearing for a continuing fight? I personally ain’t interested in continued fighting in Ellen’s blog…
In any case, let me say this once and for all, STOP digging holes for yourself, I shall try to ignore your comments but will not balk at giving you some form of verbal thrashing if you really want me to…
The ball is in your court, to stop this stupid, futile debate… From my end, I’m willing to stop it here unless of course, you really want me to give you verbal thrashing.
Again, the ball is in your court… STOP this futile punches in the wind. Don’t focus on my posts and I promise to forget that you exist. There is wider world out there.
Well mandirigma, kung hindi pwedeng shake hands na symbol lang naman ng peace, and I didn’t mean a physical act, it’s really easy. Just ignore some commenters you don’t like. Pwede namang piliin lang, di ba? But as you said, “Let’s stop all these misunderstanding and continue to fight against Arroyo.”
From here on, I will delete comments not related to the article posted.
thanks norpil, nice to hear from you again. mandirigma, well, after so many postings I was hoping you already knew where I’m based, but since you are asking, I always believe in answering queries towards me. I’m based in Scarborough, or Toronto, whichever people prefer between the two (used to be 6 cities, too many mayors) now known only as Toronto with only one mayor. It’s exactly halfway the world (far, far away). But because of the WWW or internet can have instant access to just about anywhere, and its lighting fast.
Anyways, any threats that may come from intellegence community is very serious, as I mentioned in another thread, that even here where no case of political killings ever happened, a lawyer back out, upon suspecting that the threat to his safety was coming from intellegence source.
Vic,
I’m sceptical – one rightly wonders how effective our Army intel men really are when it comes to tracking the bad people doing the wrong things against good people.
After all, the current military are merely playing the oldest game in the world – follow the leader.
Yakkity, yakkity, yak! I am yakking against the Creepy Switik eversince I can remember, even before I was invited into this blog!
What I post are not just my opinion but facts based on my own experience as police, court, bar association interpreter and paralegal, and information received from reliable sources. Since Japanese laws were promulgated under the supervision of the US occupation forces, I don’t suppose our laws are different from those of the Philippines unless the idiots there have changed them all to suit their personal needs, welfare and interests as the case may be now. I post here to share, not to impose my opinion on anyone.
Thus, I find it offensive when someone here tries to be almighty and impose his distorted opinions on anybody, especially on me, for I am not an idiot! I have no cobwebs in my head the way a lot many social-climbers in the Philippines do and reflected in postings of those typified as “some langaw on top of a carabao.”
Do I make myself clear? OK, now back to the issue of Harry Roque’s threat.
Frankly, Ellen, I thought sane and intelligent Filipinos should support this courageous man. What he has done so far is very courageous and commendable. Dapat lang siyang pasalamatan hindi iyong may nanunuya pa. Worst was when someone insinuated that he was being paid big money for what he did re Bolate! Ipaparis pa sa mga Pidals! Susmaryosep!
But so what kung binayaran siya? Dapat lang! Ano puro TY na lang ba? But he said, he has not received any renumeration. I believe him. I have met a lot many civic-conscious lawyers doing the same voluntary service, walang labis, walang kulang! KAHANGA-HANGA SIYA LALO NA NGAYONG PANAHON NA MAS MARAMI ANG GARAPAL AT GANID SA PILIPINAS!
I pray that this experience will strengthen more Atty. Roque’s resolve to uphold truth and right. For that, I have faith that God will preserve him.
Mabuhay ka, Atty Roque! Your fellow UP alumni in Japan are proud of you and Atty. Ursua. UP beloved, itinayo ninyo! Salamat!
The woman (Pfc Lorenzo) who answered 09152546579 sounded honest about not knowing anything about the death threats to Harry. She also does not know Harry.
But this is what I find amusing. She said,”Baka gawa-gawa lang yan ng mga gustong manggulo sa gobierno. Baka gawa yan ng mga komunista.”
Pfc Lorenzo has been brainwashed to believing that all that’s bad is communist and perhaps, all that’s good is done by Gloria.
Sanamagan, wala ng sense of discernment. Hay buhay.
Anyway, Ellen, can’t blame the poor PFC, she’s probably just a pen pusher or coffee server there. Can’t expect much from her.
But if someone from a higher level says the same thing, then, the we can start to really suspect at the level of intellect prevailing among the officers’ corps of the Army.
The correct official standard albeit impersonal reply would be: “Thank you, Ma’am, we will look into the matter if you care to send us the full details and will let you know as soon as we have feedback!”
No further comment! That’s professionalism although impersonal! Any further comment points to lack of professionalism.
Tapos!
Mandirigma,
All 2’s are afp staff offices doing more on “supervisionary and advisory” functions to the commanders. the intel works are being done by its operating arm. commanders of these operating arms are not necessarily the preference of the 2’s. they are handpicked by the commanders. thus, the 2’s may have no knowledge what its arms are doing since commanders can give orders directly to the operating units. to illustrate:
J2 supervises isafp
army G2 supervises isg
navy N2 supervises nisf
airforce A2 supervises aig
i hope this illustration will clear some misconceptions about intel operations. by then, we can infere what group might be involved in some activities like the Atty Roque’s case. Again, if and only if, the afp had a hand in this.
but the fact is, there is a threat. real or imaginary.
Since it seems everybody is in this thread, I would like to say again that’s what’s happening is not MOOT! It’s POOT!
POOT in English: Anger, strong feeling of displeasure, wrath, ire, rage, outrage, fury, indignation.
Intended meaning: galit, puut…..na!
Poot ang naghahari sa kalooban ng sambayanan!!!
Ms. Tordesillas, my sincere apology for those little exhange with Ms. de brux.
Spot on Sphinx: “but the fact is, there is a threat. real or imaginary.”
In all honesty, I have difficulty believing that a member of any of the 2s would be so STUPID as to do the something as blatantly idiotic as issuing such threats supplying a telephone number to boot…
But heck, it’s difficult not to believe either because there have been abuses in the past.
And perhaps, this is one instance when the perpetrator, perpetrators of this outrageous act believe that they could hoodwink or confuse the people with precisely my kind of reasoning, i.e., above.
Nasty piece of work!
Ellen, why not ask Ed Santos, Joey Calimlim (I have his number too) or Zyril Carlos if this is at all possible, eg, perpetrator, perpetrators of this outrageous act could come from any of the 2s in the hope they could hoodwink or confuse the people with precisely my kind of reasoning, i.e., above.
The Calimlim is familiar to me. Are they from Pangasinan? I agree, a threat is threat real or imaginary. What’s Harry’s plans and next move? Higit kailan man, kailangan niya ang ating suporta at dasal.
Anna,
I understand from the report of Ellen above that Atty. Roque received the threatening calls in his cellphone. The numbers of the callers are usually automatically saved in the phone that is why it is impossible for the call to come from the Public Affairs office of the Philippine Army if that phone has not been used for that call contrary to the allegation of the military major, who must be lying.
As a lawyer, Atty. Roque may try to file formal complain through the bar association he is affiliated with. It is one way to stop this kind of extrajudicial killings. Or he can hire a veteran private detective to do the investigation, and then let an international body to prosecute the case para mapahiya si Creepy Switik even when we talk for a fact that she has no shame! Sabi nga ni Spartan at Magno, demonyo kasi ang pinaupo nila.
On the other hand, matalino si Atty. Roque. He knows what he is doing. Si Romy Capulong nga, muntik-muntikan na rin, pero wala silang nagawa sa kaniya. Si Satur Ocampo, et al, ganoon din.
May araw din iyan. Just watch and pray!!!
And don’t forget Ms. Tordesillas’ previous threat too. Ano po ba ang nangyari doon? Hers could be a test case to see if similar threats like that of Harry Roque would be solved. But quite frankly, I’m not too optimistic. Kung mismong mga criminal na gumawa na ng krimen hindi pa nahuhuli, iyon pang banta lang?
This should read: As a lawyer, Atty. Roque may try to file formal COMPLAINT TO THE POLICE through the bar association he is affiliated with.
Yeah, I get it Yuko… di puwedeng add-on kaya iyong number?
Kasi there are cell phone trackers, eavesdropping devices that can be used to pirate numbers.
Anna,
When you work for the police, a keen observer and have an analytic, it is actually easy to catalog the criminal minds. I see a pattern in fact in some mails in this and other blogs of people who pretend to be in accord with the idea and purpose of this blog, but are actually here to monitor the bloggers and their posts in this blog.
Worse is when they deliberately, consciously and otherwise try to create an atmosphere of hostility to stop the smooth flow of exchanges regardless of whether or not they are pros or cons. Frankly, I cannot care less about the inuendoes and deliberate goading to make me angry and sound stupid, especially when I can relate with the more sensible and sincere members of this community wishing for a better Philippines. May halo pang inggit ang mga ungas, the way I read it.
I am not a psychologist. As a matter of fact, I am a trained historian and a linguist, but working for the police for more than a decade has afforded me the opportunity to learn how to read people and size them up. I can tell in fact when a criminal is really sick in the head or pretends to be crazy even when in fact, a sane person will and can never do such crimes especially when they profess to have faith in God. Problem with a lot many people in fact is that they worship God only with their lips as Christ had warned His disciples about the hypocrites.
I can spot the Internet Brigaders of the creeps squatting at the palace by the murky river as a matter of fact no matter how much they clone their names and/or pretend to be die-hard anti-Bansot. There is in a noticeable pattern that I have mentioned to the barkada in a private exchange.
I actually wonder if such individual is really and genuinely sick in the head for he can write like he is a different entity from one of the entities he blogs in. Minsan, babae pa siya. Amazing! Nakikipag-away pa sarili. Worse is when he/she even tries to goad someone like me to respond to him/her even when I have decided to ignore him/her. Sabi nga ni Alitaptap, KSP! To me, these entities must be sick in the head if they are not paid employees of the Malacanang squatters. I would rather call them as such, you know.
Yuko,
I have no reason to doubt what you are saying – on the contrary, you have been spot on more than once and I believe it is essential for us to be cautious, as you say para sa Pilipinas.
I sincerely hope that nothing bad will befall Atty Roque! We need morally and physically courageous people like him, prepared to battle it out so that right may win over wrong.
Hang in there Atty Roque! Don’t let Gloria and her Ebola and HIV viruses get anywhere near you.
I agree with all what Ystakei said. I hope my little misunderstanding with Ms. de brux doesn’t give her the idea that I possess a criminal mind. Ang akin lang, pinupulot ko ang nakakabuti at nakakatulong at binabasura ko ang mga marurumi. I just have one question and this is also for Ms. Tordesillas: Is the above lengthy piece of opinion from Ystakei related to the topic here?
Anna,
At least, being connected with the police in Tokyo, I feel safe. I have asked in fact some police monitoring of my phone and Internet lines to play safe.
Ikaw, ingat ka rin diyan sa Europe. I don’t know the efficiency of the Belgian police. I’m more familiar with the Scotland Yard.
You bet, I am also praying for the safety of Atty. Roque regardless of whether or not this threat against him is a hoax and intended to rattle him and his family. He cannot afford to be complacent as a matter of fact. This goes true to all of us as a matter of fact.
In my case, I only have my PCs to worry about. Just got a good spyware, malware and a virus buster. When I get cut off here, I know I have been bugged and my spyware get activated. I send the report to the authorities here to trace the intruder as a matter of fact.
Yuko,
Have you forgotten that Hercule Poirot – if he’s still alive and kicking – is Belgian?
hihihhih!
even poirot was created by the a british.
One for the road (a night cap of sort) for Norpil:
Yep, right you are and more than that, she was ENGLISH!
Anna – norpil
It may be worth pointing out that the term British refers to four countries, Welsh, Irish, Scots & English. The first three are very proud and prefer (sometimes insist) to be called by their countries name, and rightly so, whereas the English will readily accept being refered to as English or British. Just a chance to explain to people that may not know this.
Tha’s a hoax.A killer will not tell you when they gonna’ kill you.They will just go ahead and execute.Take extra precaution because you are a brilliant lawyer and our country needed you.
Ingat lang Atty Roque..Hindi magandang biro ang mga death threats na yan na nanggaling pa mismo sa opisina ng PA..
It is a sick joke but you should take the matter seriously..We who understand the things unfold can only admire your courage,loyalty and love for justice..For sure you will make a good politician to uphold our law that have been twisted by you know who…
Oh yeah, Cocoy! On the contrary, I have friends who were witness to assassinations of community leaders in the Philippines, who were told about what would be done to them? So, why should I believe you that this threat may be a hoax? Why, what do you know about some possible hoax like perhaps that one done on Ellen?
Hoax or not, Atty Roque needs to be on the lookout. Better sick help from the likes of Senator Lim who still command respect among the members of the Manila’s Finest and the NBI. They may provide him the needed security at even the peril of their lives!
I join the rest of the bloggers praying for Atty. Roque’s safety.
Alitaptap, you’re right. After a goodnight’s sleep, I feel I can argue better. Unfortunately, I got this job at the TV, and need to sign off now.
This should read: Better SEEK help from the likes of Senator Lim who still command respect among the members of the Manila’s Finest and the NBI.
I feel sorry that this kind of situation is happening to Atty. H. Roque, especially on the part of his family. Madali nating sabihin na huwag matakot si Atty. Roque, pero mahirap nating alisin lalo na sa kaniyang mga kasambahay ang pag-aalala sa kani-kanilang kaligtasan. At sa nakita nating pinagmulan ng pananakot na ito, na mismong sa opisina ng ating Sandatahang Lakas, malinaw na malinaw na ang ating kagalang-galang at kapitapitagang Hukbong Sandatahan ng Pilipinas ay isa na lamang ngayong “private army” ng isang grupo ng mapagsamantalang Pilipino, yan ang pangkat ni gloria macapagal-arroyo. It’s really sad that the long gallant and noble history and traditions that involves our men and women in uniform of th AFP has been all wiped-out and turned into sludge by this woman who now resides in Malacanang. The AFP is now a kennel of hungry pack of wolves ready to be unleashed by the evil woman to her discontent kababayans. HAYOP TALAGA!!!
At duon sa mga aso ni gloria diyan sa Hukbong Sandatahan ng Pilipinas, sa bawat kawalanghiyaan na ginagawa ninyo para sa sakim at maitim na budhi ng inyong amo na si gloria at ng kaniyang mga asong heneral ninyo, sampung ulit na babalandra sa inyo ang mga kahayupang pinaggagawa ninyo. Hindi man direktang sa inyo tumama ay sa inyong mga asawa, anak, o iba pang mahal sa buhay. Dahil tandaan ninyo, in the end, the good always outnumbered the bad. Kaya ang mga nilalang na mga katulad ni Atty. Roque ay mas darami pa.
Matapang lang kayo dahil patraydor ninyong ginagawa ang inyong mga kabalbalan. Kumpleto kayo ng gamit sa komunikasyon, sasakyan, armas, at higit sa lahat salapi, na pulos naman hindi sainyo kundi sa Bayan ng Pilipinas. Mali ang pagpapalaki ng mga magulang ninyo sa inyo…mga duwag!
Some of you asked what happened to the death threat I got. I had it blottered at the NBI. I have heard nothing from there.
I reported the threat to Yahoo. Yahoo said they cannot give me information on the Daniel Perez (the one who wrote the threat) because of their confidentiality policy. But they said they have blacklisted that email address.
That’s all as of now.
Yuko, the messages that Harry got came from different cell phones. The third and fourth came from cell phone no. 0910-701-1941.
At the time we talked talked yesterday, harry’s cellphone was malfunctioning so the first two messages were erased together with the numbers where they came from. It’s a good thing he had already forwarded the messages to us.
I was thinking, even if the person he sent he death threats to Harry was not from the public affairs office of the Philippine Army, he must have in one way or another some connectio with the Army because how would he have known the Public Affairs’ office cell phone number.
BTW, harry said yesterday, he will have the death threats blottered, just for the record.
“After a while he got the second message:”Atty. Roque, RIP. Kami sa bagong hukbong bayan ay patuloy ang pagmanman sa mga ginagawa mong kataksilan sa bayan muli kaming magbabala to shut yor fishy mouth.””
ang kahulugan ng bagong hukbong bayan ay new people’s army, at kung sino man ang may kagagawan at/o pinanggalingan ng text message na ito ay isang pakawala ng mga kinauukulan upang iligaw ang pansin at paniniwala ng balana.
Tama ka Mrivera. Gusto pang manglito ng mga alagad ni Great Switik. Nice try! Akala nila kasi madaling matakot si Atty. Roque. O di pahiya sila!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
Inililigaw na naman ng kampon ni Glueria ang mga tao. Ang linaw na walang mahihita ang NPA kay Atty. Roque. In fact, ang marangal na abugado ay tumutulong para sa katotohanan.
analyze: aling number ang pinanggalingan ng text message at alin ang ginawang contact number kung sakali kunong makita si atty roque upang pagbigyang kaalaman? bukod pa ‘yan sa tinagalog na NPA (bagong hukbong bayan).
deceptive tactics sa utos ni asoperon, mismo! gawain ng duwag!!
Kaya mabuti sana kong ang lahat na cell-phone numbers (sim cards) ay nakaregistered rin sa kong sin-o ang may-ari ng sim or number di madali kong sa-an magsimula ang imbitigasyon. At pag iyong ninakaw ang cell phone, ireport ka-agad sa service provider para ma-cancel agad yon number. Yan dalawang ibon sa isang bato. Madali ma-trace ang may-ari at maminimize ang nakawan ng cell phones.
Alam mo Vic, maganda po ang idea niyo. The problem is cell phone users and sellers/dealers in the Philippines are very much different. Kaya nilang mag-magic. Unlike in the US and Canada, hindi strict sa Pilipinas. Once a cell phone is stolen, it’s immediately sold to second hand dealers which fix this phone and sell it. Walang control. Mas lalo nang walang enforcement of laws. Isa pa, mahina yata ang mga batas tungkol sa ganoon. I don’t know. Your idea might be good but whether it would work in the Philippines is another thing.
Si Mang Vic laging tama dahil laging VICtory. Kay Atty. Roque, pakisabi na huwag siyang mag-alala. Padadalhan ko siya ng sampung Kung Fu masters. Simula nang umalis ako sa atin, puro banta at patayan na lang ang nangyayari. Dapat bumalik na ako para maging tahimik ang ating bansa. Iniiwasan ko lang si Mark Jimenez kasi parehong mayabang na tulad ko. Masikip sa aming dalawa ang Pilipinas.
Ellen,
I just dialled, this instant cell no. +63(0)910-701-1941, auto answering – either out of coverage or incorrect using nato phone with no caller ID.
I did too and I got a recorded message- it’s either unattended or out of coverage area.
Ellen:
Ingat na rin. Hoax or not, mura lang mag-hire ng mamamataytao diyan lalo na kung may supply ng funds mula sa treasury at game lords—5M pesos per game sabi ng kausap kong Mafia boss daw sa Cebu according to an information I found on the Internet.
Dito nga marami nang na-convict at nabitay na hapon na na-involved sa mga insurance scam na ang mga victims ay sa Pilipinas pinapapatay.
Talk of the Philippines being the seat of Catholicism in Asia, and the only Christian country in this part of the globe! Pero tignan mo ang kawalan ng respeto sa buhay ng tao!
Kaya panahon na gawing Buddhism na lang ang relihiyon ng Pilipinas. Hindi nag-click ang Catholism di palitan.
I don’t agree artsee! The best thing to do is to forget religion amidst all the brouhaha and focus, focus on the vermin – throw Gloria in the gutter – Gloria the vermin!