Magkita-kita tayo mamaya sa rally sa Luneta.
Itong rally sa Luneta, maliban sa sabay-sabay nating pagdarasal sa tunay na kapayapaan at pasalamat sa naunsyaming pagyurak sa Saligang Batas nina Gloria Arroyo, Joe de Venecia at ang kanilang mga kasamahan, ay pagpapakita na gising na ang sambayanang Pilipino.
Marami ang nagtatanong, kung ano ang mangyayari pagkatapos ng rally. Sa akin kung tuloy-tuloy ito at mauwi sa political rally katulad ng “People Power” noong February 1986 at January 2001, okay lang. Kung hindi naman, hindi ibig sabihin noon ligtas na si Gloria Arroyo.
Sa akin, sa kanyang kinalalagyan ngayon, wala ng pupuntahan si Arroyo kungdi pabagsak. Hindi lang sa wala na siyang kredibilidad, wala ng natatakot sa kanya.
Dahil alam na nga ng lahat na tapos na siya.
Malaking mensahe ang pinaparating ni Cagayan de Oro Rep. Constantino Jaraula sa kanyang panawagan na i-release na si dating Pangulong Estrada at si Bayan Muna sectoral Rep. Crispin Beltran.
Sabi ni Jaraula matagal na raw ang paghihirap ni Estrada sa kanyang pagkakulong kahit na ito ay nakatira sa kanyang bahay-bakasyunan sa Tanay. Si Ka Bel naman, wala na raw peligrong mamundok at matanda na.
Aba, bakit ngayon lang ito naiisip ni Jaraula na bilang chairman of the committee on constitutional matters ay siyang pasimuno sa Con-Ass na nagpa-igting ng galit ng taumbayan laban kay Arroyo?
Dahil kaya sa feeling niya ay nagtraidor sa kanila si Arroyo?
Kaya malakas ang loob nina JDV at Jaraula na isulong itong Cha-Cha para gawing parliamentary ang ating sistema ng pamahalaan dahil sa nangako si Arroyo ng kanyang suporta kapalit ng kanilang boto laban sa impeachment sa kanya.
At tinupad naman nina JDV ang kanilang parte ng usapan. Dalawang beses pa dahil dalawang beses nagkaroon ng impeachment complaint base sa dayaan noong 2004 na eleksyon. Sa impeachment, babuyan rin ng batas ang nangyari at dito palang galit na ang taumbayan.
Noong isang linggo, nang maramdaman ni Arroyo na umigting ang galit ng taumbayan dahil sa ginawa nina JDV at parang matumba siya, umatras siya sa usapan kay JDV at pinalibing na ang Con-Ass.
Mukhang nagsisimula na ang luksuhan sa lumulubog na bangka ni Arroyo. Maliban kay Jaraula, si Rep.Tony Cuenco sa Cebu at humingi na ng pasensiya sa mga Cebuano. Marami na rin daw sa mga local government officials ay tatalikod na rin kay Arroyo. Kasi kailangan nilang salbahin ang kanilang sarili para sa 2007 eleksyon.
Talasan natin ang pakiramdam at panunood sa mga sumusunod na araw. Mukhang darating na ang ating hinihintay na hustisya.
I wouldn’t be surprised if at an opportune time, those scalawags who are identified with Gloria would abandon her. Why? She was the first to do that to them, didn’t she? She dropped them like a hot potato when strong reactions against cha-cha intesified.
Ms. Ellen Tordesillas ng Abante at Malaya, Hello po!
I’m Franky, a gay beautician, isang x-men from Singapore, but noyping noypi. Handang ipagtanggol ang Pinas kahit nasa abroad ako pero very near lang.
May nagtext sa akin, oks daw itong blog na toits, pasama naman, pwede po? Galing lang ako sa labas, dehins ko na talk why, kaya gising pa ako para mag-computer.
Ay, ano ba yan? Nagtatalunan ba kamo Ms. Ellen Tor? Ang mga boys and girls ng little girl Glo? Hayaan mo na silang malunod. Mga pasaway lang sila. Dito sa Singapore, bwisit na bwisit ang mga customers ko kay Gloria Macapagal Arroyo kahit mga foreg-ners, mukha raw fake. Ah baka pekeng president. Oo nga, FPJ pa naman ako kaya nang malotats siya sa daya ni Gloriang Macapal Arayko, luhaan lumipad ang beauty ko d2 sa Singapore.
Read ko mga entries d2, dehins yata uubra educational attainment ko todits from Samson Tech, graduate of cosmetology, major in sweeping the floor.
Normal lang namang tumalon kapag lumulubog na ang barko. Ang masama ay ang umastang hindi ka nanggaling duon at magpanggap na hindi nakinabang duon.
Ang mahalaga ay ang bayan natin at ang sambayanang Pilipino. Yaong taas-nuo pa rin tayong makakaharap sa buong mundo na mayroong dignidad at pagmamalaki. Bayang minahal ni Jose Rizal at pinaghandugan ng buhay kaysa yumukod sa mga dayuhan. May dignidad hanggang sa harap ng kamatayan, walang takot at normal ang pulso sapagkat walang kasalanan, para sa kaniyang PATRIA ADORADA.
Kung hindi ikokober ng dalawang higanteng tv stations and rally mamaya ay hindi ito magtatagumpay. Bale-wala. Nakasakay pa rin sila sa barko ni Gloria, takot pa rin ke Gloria at nanghihinayang sa kanilang gagastusin sa coverage. Pero hayaan mong maramdaman kung saan umiihip ang hangin at bagyo at saka lamang mag-kokober ang dalawang iyan – mag-uunahan pa kamo sa pagkober. Wais ang mga iyan! Walang kapuso at kapamilya.
Ellen, All EMandirigma:
With prayers and restored faith in God, country and countrymen, I do not think that the Great Switik will be able to stay there at the palace by the murky river any longer. God willing, we will see a bright tomorrow!
Ocayvalle may still have his dream! Advance Merry Christmas to all indeed although Christmas in the USA looks bleak this year!
Franknagay, mabuti naman franka ka sa pag-amin na bading ka. Kung noon binubugbog ang mga tulad mo, ngayon ay minamahal. Maraming bading ang matagumpay sa larangan ng sining. Ang ayaw ko lang iyon mga bading na nagkukunwaring macho. Marami tayo niyan sa gobyerno.
Malalaman natin kung ang paglubog ng barko ni Tiyanak ay mabilis o hinay hinay lang. Yung rally sa Linggo ang magbibigay ng hudyat. Sa ginagawa ni Assperon na tinatambangan niya ang mga taong galing sa probinsiya, malamang na kakaunti lang ang mag-rally. Sasabihin na naman ng Tiyanak na ang mga tao ay gusto ang kanyang pamamalakad ng gobiyerno kaya kakaunti lang ang dumalo sa rally. Papaano dadami e hindi naman makapasok sa Maynila ang karamihan. Sa nakaraang blog ko kay Eleen, sinabi ko na malamang gagawin ni Assperon ulit ito dahil ganoon din ang ginawa niya noong may stand-off sa Fort Bonifacio. Sana, ang mga galinf sa probinsiya ay dumating na noon pang isang lingo para hindi sila mapigilan nitong si Assperon.
Ang hindi alam ng mga mayayaman na nasa kanilang mga malapalasyong tahanan, na ang kanilang tiyanak na gustong gusto nilang maging lider ay sobra sa kasamaan. Ang lahat ng asal niya para sa tao kuno hindi nila alam ang totoo, para lang sa kanyang sarili ang nangunguna sa kanyang agenda. Nagaabang na naman siya ng susunod niyang gagawin pagkatapos ng rally na ito. Malamang itutuloy niya ang Cha-cha kung ang rally ng taong bayan ay mahina. Nananahimik lang siya at ng kanyang mga alipores kasi takot sila sa mga taong bayan.
ANG DASAL KO AY SANA MAGKAISA ANG MGA TAONG BAYAN PARA MATANGGAL NA SA PUWESTO ANG GANID NA TIYANAK!!!!
Tama ka Artsee, ang mga bading ay nakakatulong din sa ating economiya dahil may mga talento sila.Tumpak sa lahat marami tayong “closet queen” sa gobyierno kaya panay ang tago nila sa palda ni tiyanak!
Tawa muna kayo diyan … itong si ka bisi ay pasahero ng barkong lulmulobog. Narining niya ang mga madreng takot na takot na nananalangin – sta maria, sta ines, sta lucia, sta ignacia… galit na galit si ka bisi na nagsabing: hoy ano ba kayo, palubok na balko tawag pa kayo pasahelo!
Sayang!!!, sayang talaga!!! sana andyan pa ako sa Pinas para makita ko ang tuwirang paglubog ng barko ni bansot.
“Gloriang sinungaling, mandaraya at magnanakaw, bago tuluyang lumubog ang iyong barko ay makakabuting maghanap ka ng life saver mo,upang kahit papaano ay makarating ka sa pangpang at hindi ka tuluyang malunod”
Mga kababayan ko, huwag kayong mag-alala, kaya gusto kong ma-save pa ang buhay ni bansot ay para naman maharap niya ang pag-uusig ng taumbayan. Mapatawan siya ng tamang parusa at magdusa siya> Pakiusap lang po sa mga Pilipino, huwag hayaang makatakas si Jose de Venecia, Si Fidel Ramos na ngyaon ay nananahimik pero isa sa mga nagpahirap sa atin, higit sa lahat huwag bayaang makatakas si super sinungaling Chavit, ako ang kakalbo sa kanya, si fatguy alyas balahura dahil sa kababuyan, at si mike defensor na akala niya ay wala ng katapusan ang kanilang paghari-harian. last but not the least si unjust Gonzalez na walang ginawa kundi ipakulong ang mga matitinong Pilipino.
Lahat sila ay tatanggap ng kaparusahan………mga taksil sa bayan, mga mandurugas, mga pangit, mga mababaho, mga demonyo!!!! Yakkk!!!
let as all vigilant,they are now doing collateral damages to their own people.with the killing of rep bersamin and the aborted ambush of rep jaworski,this people are the sacrificial lamb of the administration..beware of the people like nsa gonzalez,doj gonzalez,mr esperon,calderon,ermita,and the retired generals who are all in the key position of goverment agency,they will soon justifying martial law and start arresting people branded as terrorist,rebels and commies..this people are the one panicking once GMA will be toppled by the people.they are as guilty as GMA and they know it..they had now activated their death squad to have a scenario of a terrorist attack in the capital..let us all vigilant..the beginning of GMA`s downfall has now started..let us all be united for one common cause.the restoration of the rule of law in the land,let us pray hard that this will be a peaceful turnover of a new beginning!!God bless the filipinos and God bless the philippines!!
Ingat lang dapat sa mga maka-administration na lulukso sa opposition pag talagang lulubog na ang barko. Karamihan diyan, kung hindi lahat, ay gusto lang iligtas ang sarili nila. Yung lahat ng bumoto pabor sa Con-Ass, kahit bumaligtad later, dapat hindi na iboto ng constituents nila kung kakandidato uli. Otherwise, ngingisi lang yan in private dahil naisahan na naman ang mga pobreng botante.
Hayyy salamat at isa isa nang nagsisitalunan ng barko ang mga hudas na tongresman. Sana mas maging matalino na ang mga boboto at huwag iboto itong mga hudas na ito. Tulad na lang itong mukhang paangilinan alyas mr. Noted. Silang dalawa ng senile na gonzalez ang mga dahilan kung bakit disin sanay walang magnanakaw sa Malakanyang. Ngayong lumalakas ang oposisyon, oposisyon na rin itong Mukhang paangilinan na ito. Lumiliit na ang mundo nitong dwendeng itim na ito sa Malakanyang. Kung ako sa kanya, sumakay na lang sya sa likod ng asawa nyang baboy at tumalon na lang sa ilog Pasig. Mga magnanakaw ng puwesto. Karma lang sa inyo.
let’s make a list, and let’s check it twice… of all the people we will NOT vote for nor support this coming elections.
FranknaGay;
Alam mo okey ka kahit na Bading Ka.Huwag mong maliitin ang sarili mo and you must be proud kasi kah
it na ano pa ang trabaho mo basta marangal taas noo ka day.Well,palagay ko naman dito sa Blog ni Ellen kasit na sa Samson tech ka o sa Yale or harvard graduate ka it doesn’t matter ‘wag lang sa University of Recto.Pagupit naman ng libre sa iyo,kasi sa mga katualad mong bading ako nagpapagupit.Mahal ang singil sa Supercut.
Buti nandyan ka sa Singapore kasi nawalan na ng problema ang mga magulang mo sa iyo.Payo ko lang day tulong muna sa mga magulang at kapatid bago ang sugar papa.
to all Blogers;
Balitaan n’yo naman ako ng happenings d’yan sa Pilipinas kung ano na ang nagyayari sa prayer rally sa luneta.Sabado 8:25 ng gabi dito.Nakahanda na ang Turkey at ham’hinihintay ko ang balita kung may pag-asa bang mapaalis si Gloria bago ko i-oven ito at bukas punta kami sa Simbahan sa Carson para mag-pasalamat.
Where are you based Cocoy? When you wake up on Monday, it’s a new government. GMA and her family will be shipped to Africa and be eaten by crocodiles.
Finally the rats are jumping off the ship eh! It’s just a matter of being patient, all in due time, bogus Gloria will have her day. I just hope that she doesn’t escape the country, she must pay for all the crimes against the people of the Philippines. Kicking her out of Malacanang is not good enough, bogus Gloria must serve prison term, it’s a must if the Philippines to regain its credibility worldwide among civilized nation. Undoubtedly, bogus Gloria has ruined the country, she took away the sovereign rights of the people. She has corrupted and destroyed the govt especially those people around her, including her entire family of thieves. Bogus Gloria lied to the people, cheated the people of their rights and stole from the people’s treasury as if her own private accounts. Bogus Gloria must pay!
npongco;
Thank you for the comment.I’m here in California,you are invited to our thanksgiving party if Gloria is ousted in Malacanang..Nipongo,npongco.You sound Japanese.Impong-ko,npongco you sound my grandpa.No matter what you sound you are a good man.Can I count you to be my new friend?
sabi ni dra. loi, “gloria needs character change, not charter change”.
tama nga naman. pero kulang pa rin. what gloria mukhang bato needs is a general overhaul of inner herself. that is, if she still considers herself a dignified person (does she still has dignity?).
one can recount since her first day of grabbed presidency how she lied, cheated, fooled, robbed and betrayed the trust of the people. everyone will always remember how she manipulated every report presented to the public as everytime she addresses the nation, it is her promise of good governance, poverty alleviation, job creation, peace and order and so many ek ek and blah blah that highlight each “declamation”. she always talks about unity but she is the one who causes division among the people. she bribes those she thinks can forward her interest and drops whom she sees does not fit her trust (greed).
but, can she still change her ways for good?
hindi kaya ang mangyari sa kanya (tulad ng noon pa) ay “lumalaon ay bumubuti, pero sumasama kaysa dati”?
Panginoon ko, dinggin nyo pa ang pakiusap ng nakakarami sa bayan kong Pilipinas. Magpadala po kayo ng anghel sa magsasama sa milyong taong sasalakay sa Malakanyang nang sa ganon ay mapatalsik ang bansot na anghel ng kadiliman sampu ng kaniyang alagad. Ipag utos nyo po sa mga anghel ninyo na sa bawat bayarang sundalo, at sunud sunurang tao na haharang sa martsa ng mga tunay na Pilipino, tigpasin po sana ang kanilang mga ulo tulad ng pag utos nyo po sa anghel na sumalakay at tumigpas kay haring herodes na ninuno ng mga macapagal-arroyo at namatay nung sandaling yon at sabay inuod kaagad. Nawa’y dinggin nyo po ang aking panalangin. Sya nawa.
It’s time!!!GMA must step down lest she wants to be ousted by the people. GMA lost the moral authority to run this country a long time ago when “hello garci” tape was discovered. After stealing the votes and rigging the elections, she attempts to “secure” herself and tried hard not to be ousted by another people power. Unfortunately for her, she has been in that “quicksand” and the more she attempts to move to save herself, the more she sinks down the bottom!!!Now that her opportunist allies are starting to abandon ship, it will not take a week for us to curve our country’s destiny right in our very hands. Dumating na ang tamang panahon at pagkakataon, wag na nating sayangin!!!Kilos pinoy!!!
Mrivera;
Lost cause na yan si Gloria. Wala ng pag-asa. When she first join politics, i felt that in her midst is a charcter only she can decipher. Very few noticed that between my circle of friends and ka-huntahan. What a change when suddenly the once meek and naive daughter of D. macapagal became the country’s most hated president. It’s what inside that corrupts all. She’s rotten in and out.
Franknagay;
Quite a “man” really to admit he’s gay. Hindi krimen ang maging gay so why worry. Ingat lang sa mga mapagsamantala. You know what i mean.
the-jester-in-exile:
Maybe easier and shorter to make a list of who you will vote for (smile)
wwnl;
yeah, i agree with you 100%.
anybody here has an update of what’s happening in Luneta? Pasensya na, i guess, i may have one cup too many coffee, i’ve got caffeine in my blood.
gma actually has many characters as psycopaths are, problem is that the bad is always the one that comes out of the surface.when a ship sinks normally the captain goes with it but it seems gma always try to jump ship like her chacha.hope npongco has what we call in tagalog dilang anghel such that when i wake up tommorrow, the evil has gone.
Yes, please naman,sa mga ka-bloggers namin d2 na nasa Pinas, give us an update of what’s happening at the Luneta rally. It’s 10;55 p, here in my place, Saturday night, December 16.
Sana mapaalis na si Gloria para naman magkaroon ng bagong pag-asa ang bansa natin.Pero sino ang ipapalit natin sa kanya?Si Noli.Ganoon din kasi babasahin lang naman ni bise ang iiwanang sulat ni Gloria sa kanya at iyon ang kanyang gagawin.Nasa likod pa rin niya itong mga alimuyong ni Gloria.Si Lito Lapid na lang kaya ang gawin nating presidente tulang magaling naman mag-tinda ng buhangin.Mahal niyang maipagbili ang buhangin sa Boracay kasi puti.
Si Villar,Nabahag ang buntot sa Rally.Puwede ba iyon mamuno sa atin walang bayag.Ang sa akin lang mas gugustuhin ko si Lacson,para lahat ng kriminal sa bansa natin ma firing squad katulad ng Baleleng gang.Mabuti nga s mga baleleng na
‘yan natapos na sila.Tutal alam naman ni Lacson kung saan nakatago ang ninakaw na milyones ni Jose Pidal.Hindi na natin kailangan si Abcede bakasyon na siya kasi baka madagdagan pa ang sasakyan niya.Si Lim kaya”Dirty Harry” ng magkaroon ng pinturang pula ang mga magnanakaw natin sa gobyerno.Sa akin si Jun Magsaysay kasi I’m from Zambales para mapauwi na si Bolante sa Pilipinas kasi balita ko pag magkaroon si Bolante ng assylum dito sa U.S. may nakahanda ng trabaho sa Kanya sa U.S.Department of Agriculture.Gustong malaman ng mga kanong farmer kung papano gawing fertilizer ang Tubig para makatipid sila sa gasto.
Flash report:
Rally kontra Charter change sa Luneta nagsimula na!!! SOURCE: Philippine Daily Inquirer, Dec. 16
Just came back from work, so am also eager to know what’s the latest. Monday is too early to know things, another day or so will perhaps show a clearer trend of a sinking ship. But since the lady captain seemed to have jumped ship before her lapdogs did, it’s just a matter of time for those despicable creatures. Funny, the captain might be thinking that she was safe in the shark-infested water.
Wish GMA and those despicable pork lovers led by Joe wouldn’t last until X’mas. With them gone, it will be the sweetest holiday for Filipinos.
Just to take this opportunity to greet my friend and former co-workers in the Philippines…..to the ever committed workers of Task Force Detainees of the Philippines, the workers of Institute for Occupational Health and Safety Development….MABUHAY KAYO, MABUHAY ANG ATING KALAYAAN!!!
Para sa bayan at tunay na kalayaan. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
The Luneta prayer-rally has started.
Lupang Hinirang
Bayang magiliw
Perlas ng Silanganan,
Alab ng puso,
Sa dibdib mo’y buhay.
Lupang Hinirang,
Duyan ka ng magiting,
Sa manlulupig,
Di ka pasisiil.
Sa dagat at bundok,
Sa simoy at sa langit mong bughaw,
May dilag ang tula
At awit sa paglayang minamahal.
Ang kislap ng watawat mo’y
Tagumpay na nagniningning,
Ang bituin at araw niya
Kailan pa ma’y di magdidilim.
Lupa ng araw, ng luwalhati’t pagsinta,
Buhay ay langit sa piling mo;
Aming ligaya, na pag may mang-aapi
Ang mamatay nang dahil sa iyo.
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=Lupang+Hinirang+instrumental.ogg&wiki=en
Goldenlion, i just came from the rally. Nagsisimula pa lang ang misa. I had to leave because I hve to do my column. Our office is in Port Area, not far away from Luneta.
Maraming tao. Cory Aquino was there. I saw Frank Drilon, Serge Osmena, Jun magsaysay. Ang congressman I saw Erin Tanada, Neric Acosta. From civil society there was Dinky Soliman, Leah Navarro, Josie Lichauco, Bettina Legarda, Marilou Magsaysay, Precy Psinakis, daughter of the alte Geny Lopez of ABS-CBN.
Iba’t-ibang grupo nandoon. Erap’s group were there.
The El Shaddai members were beginning to arrive when I left.I’ll monitor on TV later.
I’ve been monitoring the AM band for updates regarding the rally, unfortunately, all I’ve been getting are piecemeal infos from the field. Not much coverage. Hmmmm… for a big event such as this? I wonder why?
Thanks Ellen for giving me an update here in California.I’ll stay awake to monitor this event and keep this blog open.I’m glad my guy kuya Jun Magsaysay is there,
What’s happening at the Luneta? Nothing. Boring. Prayer rally lang and a Mass? No wonder the media has not been covering it. What’s there to cover?
Looks like the Despicable One again outsmarted the organizers and succeeded in taking the wind out of the sails of an enraged public. She lives another day…to scheme some more.
But I guess the message has been sent and received clearly the past week. That’s why the Con Woman and her Con Men backpedalled in their railroading activities.
And so we too live to continue the watch and fight another day?
Like I said in my other post (on another thread), the CBCP is too soft when confronting significant issues such as the cha-cha. Masyadong mahinhin and mga obispo natin ngayon, strong words are not enough. I miss the days when the late Cardinal Sin was still at the helm of things then, although I may not share the same political views with him, at least the late cardinal has balls made of steel. Not like the present crop which has balls…. uuuhhh….made of gummy bears?
Anna:
I just read your comment in Tribune. You said it nicely what everyone of us bloggers, who do not want to see a minute more of the Great Switik at the palace by the murky river, feel and want to say. Thanks.
I spent the whole day fasting and going to our temple. Hopefully, it will be a bright tomorrow for all Filipinos regardless of whether or not the rally today can make the
Great Switik resign or not.
My sister here says that the only way to remove the Great Switik and her greedy lackeys plus a bully of a hubby is to pull her by the hair out of Malacanang! Otherwise, baka daw abutin ng pagputi ng uwak!
Funny how Villar would even want to include the ChaCha in the May election next year when the concentration should be on how to boot out the pigs who have patronized the Great Switik and her erroneous policies from the Philippine Tongress to make it a real decent Congress!!!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! NO MORE CHACHA, NOT EVEN A PLEBESCITE ON IT! I was going to say “stupid” but I promised I won’t say anymore profanity. Chi has suggested that I just westernize the spelling of the profanities in Tagalog!
Chi,
I just a call from my contact in Tokyo. El Shaddai’s members there are solid against ChaCha. Don’t know about the INC. Mike Velarde as per above report by Ellen was in the rally.
I hope this rally is the light at the end of the tunnel! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
About 5:30 pm sa Phil at nakikinig ako sa radyo, at katatapos lang ng misa. Pagkakakisa daw ang message ng nangyaring rally. Narinig ko ang interview kay Cong. Amang Magsaysay, nakakainis, parating pagkakaisa ang sinasabi niya, walang man lamang nagsalita against the present regime, so far. Ang rally ay pagkakaiisa, oo pagkakaisa, ng mga mang-gogoyo at mga nagoyo, so actual result-nothing. Wala, walang naglakas loob. Naisahan na naman ni lady tiyanak ang buong sambayanan.
Luneta ralistas should march to Malacanang after the mass. Ituloy ang laban.
The theme apparently of the prayer rally called for by the CBC
P is repentance. Unfortunately, the Great Switik is beyond repentance for she is possessed! Yup, she is possessed by the devil. Otherwise, why should she call her PIG “legion” and have leaders of the said group quote verbatim the devil in the Bible who introduced themselves as “Legion” and that they were many!
I wonder if members of the said PIG realized that they were calling themselves as Satan’s legion who were exorcised by the Savior from out of the body of someone possessed, and in their desperation entered the bodies of a herd of pigs, jumped into the sea and drowned. When I read that quote by a PIG member, I shuddered as a matter of fact! It was more a case of no one being saved by ignorance. “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16)
we-wil-never-learn can also give a vivid picture of the rally. puwede siguro, ano? tutal ‘andun naman siya.
Mahirap mamisa ng itlog bago maging sisiw. It is easier said than done, but hopefully this “pagkakaisa” thing is the beginning of the end of the Great Switik and her Rasputins!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
If the 6pm ANC news is anything to go by, they covered the Prayer Rally in five minutes. According to Black & White the crowd was an estimated 150,000.
It seems not enough people are prepared to attend the Prayer Rally and are content with the unabated KILLINGS, ABDUCTIONS, STEALING, CORRUPTION etc etc. If the people and church members allow this sort of behaviour and not prepared to put warm bodies on the streets, the country deserves this whore of a leader, don’t they!
we-will-never-learn,
the reason why not much came to attend the prayer rally were the check points set up by the ASCALDERON and ASOPERON that prevented them from joining. there was an early report that all entry points to manila were sealed by the dogs of gloria mukhang batong ostrich.
this is it, from tribune:
PNP sets up checkpoints to block out of towners
12/17/2006
Malacañang’s efforts to prevent today’s rally organized by the Catholic bishops from getting bigger than expected have extended to setting up checkpoints in all strategic locations all over Metro Manila, including the north and south Luzon expressways.
Checkpoints set up by the police and military in the north and south Luzon expressways are generally the ploys used by the Philippine National Police (PNP) and the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) in effectively preventing demonstrators from nearby provinces travelling in buses from entering Metro Manila and joining the rallies.
But PNP Spokesman chief Supt. Samuel Pagdilao, while admitting that checkpoints are being set up in all these areas, denied that this is being done to prevent the provincial demonstrators from joining the scheduled massive rally in Manila.
The church-led rally is expected to be huge as several charismatic groups, such as the El Shaddai led by Bro. Mike Velarde and the Jesus is Lord Movement (JIL) led by Bro. Eddie Villanueva, are slated to bring in their flock to attend today’s anti-Charter change prayer-rally.
The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP), the lead organizer, is also likely to tap Catholic school students to attend the rally.
Panic has reportedly gripped Malacañang and its security forces over this development, so much so that the PNP has announced that a 16,000 strong force is to be deployed to man the peace and security at the rally site. This number does not include the number of soldiers from the AFP who are also slated to be deployed all over Malacañang, which has been declared a no-rally zone.
Palace security aides have again recommended the total block-off for Malacañang today, returning to its under siege image of a container yard, as ship containers will be set up to serve as blockages to all roads leading to Malacañang.
PNP chief Director General Oscar Calderon announced yesterday that Task Force Manila Shield has been reactivated in connection with the prayer rally at the Rizal Park in Manila today.
Calderon also confirmed that some 16,000 police officers are deployed at the Rizal Park, but clarified that the deployment of Task Force Manila shield is not limited to the venue of the prayer rally but elsewhere in the metropolis.
The PNP is coordinating with the AFP which has been on red alert status in anticipation of the event.
Police spokesman Pagdilao explained that the checkpoints have been set up in strategic locations because “we are strengthening our security measures, especially our checkpoints and we have to double up to ensure that no explosive materials or firearms are being brought in.”
Pagdilao said the PNP has tightened security after receiving reports that insurgents will infiltrate the prayer rally.
Just the other day, however, the PNP disclaimed reports of terror attacks and the infiltration of insurgents and communists, saying it had no such intelligence reports on this.
This was claimed earlier by National Security Adviser, Norberto Gonzales Friday, who insisted that “credible” intelligence reports of communist provocateurs will infiltrate the rally and create chaos and confusion.
AFP chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon, Jr., has also been claiming, for at least three days running, that “credible” terrorist attacks will be launched by Islamic and communists groups to sow mayhem in the rally, but yesterday suddenly denied that such terrorists groups are planning to sow terror and take advantage of the prayer rally, even as he admitted that the military is monitoring an unnamed group out to sow mayhem.
Pagdilao said vigil organizers have asked the PNP to assist their own marshals in seizing political paraphernalia and preventing actors and politicians from delivering political speeches.
Esperon also Friday ordered the National Capital Region (NRC) Command to place its units on red alert staring at 5 p.m.
Some 700 anti-riot soldiers from the NCR Command will be put on standby at the AFP headquarters in Camp Aguinaldo in Quezon City.
AFP said the anti-riot units are ready to be deployed to Rizal Park and other places in Metro Manila to augment the police.
At least 500,000 people are expected to join the inter-faith rally, to be led by Jaro Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, president of the CBCP.
Meanwhile Secretary General Renato Reyes of Bayan Muna yesterday condemned the impositions of the PNP in connection on the prayer rally today at the Luneta.
Reyes in his statement scored the police and called on them and other security forces to stop scaring the people and dictating on them on how they should conduct themselves during the rally.
“This is people’s action”, he said.
It can be recalled that NCRPO chief Director Reynaldo Varilla earlier banned politicians and movie personalities from coming up on stage during the vigil.
Streamers and banners were also prohibited from the ground.
“There will be no political speeches and no movie personalities onstage. If they (movie stars and politicos) will insist and things get messy, we will do our thing and arrest them as per request of the organizers,” Varilla said.
But Varilla explained that politicians and movie personalities were not banned from joining the protest rallies as long as they don’t violate the rules, which to the PNP includes orders not to issue anti-government statements.
Bayan members will assemble at 10 a.m. today at the Liwasang Bonifacio where they will hold a program before proceeding to the park to converge with other activist and religious groups for the thanksgiving rally.
Reyes said they expect a huge and colorful march today going to Luneta as it will be a show of national solidarity for various issues that have plagued the country under the Arroyo government.
“It will be a perfect way to end the year. Today’s massive action should give hope to this country”, Reyes said.
Detained congressman Crispin Beltran, lashing out at NSA Gonzales said: “The only violence that could happen tomorrow can only come from the AFP and the mercenary groups it works with. The Macapagal-Arroyo ad-ministration is the one with a deadly allergy to streets protests and mass gatherings, especially to one that has the potential to develop into a political uprising directed against it,” he said.
The Lakas Christian Muslim Democrats, for its part, lauded the decision of the rally organizers to ban politicians and actors from speaking before the rallyists.
Bukidnon Rep. Juan Miguel Zubiri, in an apparent admission that Malacañang is “very apprehensive” of the mass action today, said it will ensure that the rally will not turn into a political activity.
An official of the Bayan Muna said that they are bringing in 12 thousand activists to the prayer rally which will be participated in by various religious and political persuasions including the Iglesia ni Kristo, the Jesus is Lord Movement, Bagong Alyansang Makabayan, United Opposition and Anakpawis among others.
A source from the JIL, however, said the group will not fully support the prayer rally because of the impositions made by the organizers.
The source said only JIL members in Metro Manila will be joining the rally.
Despite the CBCP saying that the rally will be peaceful and a “thanksgiving mass” held for the Congress’ retreat from Charter change done through “a miracle of grace,” the AFP chief expressed hope that the prayer rally today in Luneta would be peaceful following claims that the military agents are hot on the trail of a certain group that who has the capability of sabotaging the event.
Esperon made this disclosure shortly after his arrival from his Cebu trip yesterday where he visited Central Visayas-based troops.
“We are trailing a group that may create trouble, but I can’t discuss the details with you (reporters). It’s highly operational,” he said.
He warned that a simple commotion at the height of the rally might trigger a stampede and when this happens, he said people are likely to get hurt. Gina Peralta-Elorde, Ben Gines Jr., Gerry Baldo and AFP
FYI WWNL, there are many out-of-towners held outside of Manila because of a directive issued to stop them from coming into the city and joining the rally at Luneta. Inquirer even reported a lower figure as a matter of fact.
Please stop belittling the efforts of even a few as you think of voicing out the sentiments of more than a million Filipinos against the Great Switik as the surveys reveal.
To the brave ones who have dared the Great Switik and her lackeys, I say “MABUHAY KAYONG LAHAT!” No need to listen to the jaundiced cowards. Basta arya, tira hanggang matanggal si Great Switik! Ang galing ng propaganda talaga ng ungas!
As my cousin says, “ang galing maglaro!” Ikaw na ang maging dugong aso! Pwe!
BTW, we call on all supporters of Ka Bel in Japan to come to the launching of “Free Crispin Beltran Movement in Japan” on Jan. 7. A Japanese protestant pastor and scholar is spearheading the movement as a matter of fact. Send me an email through Ellen if you are attending.
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
dapat unang sampulan ang dalawang asong alaga ni gloria mukhang batong ostrich – sina ascalderon at asoperon! maige sa dalawang ito ay ginagawang asucena!
This should read: Please stop belittling the efforts of even a few as you think of THEIR voicing out the sentiments of more than a million Filipinos against the Great Switik as the surveys reveal.
The majority of the OFWs in Japan for instance are against the Great Switik! They may not be there at the the rally, but they are praying, too, that the Great Switik be removed fast, pronto!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
Ellen says, “Sa akin, sa kanyang kinalalagyan ngayon, wala ng pupuntahan si Arroyo kungdi pabagsak. Hindi lang sa wala na siyang kredibilidad, wala ng natatakot sa kanya.
“Dahil alam na nga ng lahat na tapos na siya.”
Ellen, sabi ng sister ko, dapat daw putulin na ang paglalaro ni Great Switik sa mga pilipino. Nakakakulo daw ng dugo.
Medyo wala epek yung rally kasi andaming restrictions. Na porke wala daw political speeches. Eh kung ganito na lang eh sana wala na lang rally.
Kakainis. Sana hindi itinuloy ang rally at titingnan natin ano ang reaction ng the Great Switik.
Masyadong malambot itong rally na ito. Sana dapat dito people power na. Rally plus troop movements. Yun ang da best.
anna, got through your piece in tribune. nicely said. mabuhay ka!!!
Hi, Ms. Ellen! I saw you earlier at the rally. I wanted to approach you, but I was medyo shy…at any rate, I was pretty happy with the turn out in the rally. Although it wasn’t half a million, but the 150,000 or so who were gathered was definitely not the hakot crowd. It was a good cross section. I even saw Teddy Boy Locsin, but he was on his way out. One of the Senators whispered to me that he was probably “boohed”. One thing for sure, the quality of this rally was good! Gloria should, as Archbishop Lagdameo said, do a character change ! He he he. We will all know it’s too late for that.
sayang! hindi pa rin magiging bright and merry ang christmas natin sa pilipinas.
just be vigilant na lang! anyway, a peaceful holiday to one and all! wala dito n’yan sa saudi arabia! (lungkot)
One way is to copy Mike Arroyo’s plan revealed in his interview in the March 5, 2001 issue of Philippine Graphic. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Their supporters to bring down Erap were waiting for a text message for the supporters to go to ESDA immediately they received the text ESDA ESDA. His plan was not published in advance, no prayer rally, no big preparation by the AFP & PNP to stop it, complete secretcy.
If it worked for Mike Arroyo then, it will work again. Maybe its time to play them at their own game.
Should have typed Secrecy
Lokal Vocal:
Huwag ang mainip. It is just the beginning of the end. Ganyan din nag-umpisa ang lahat ng EDSA. At least, this time, kitang-kita, pure Filipino initiative. Walang nakikialam na mga dayuhang walang lahing pinoy. Noong EDSA 1, sa totoo lang, mga kaibigan kong hapon kasama sa rally. This time, puro pinoy at saka hindi dikta ng mga kano.
Ito ang tunay na reformation para sa akin. Time for the Filipinos to think on their own and for their own sakes! Mabuhay ang kaunting nakalusot at nakasama sa rally. Iyong mga nasa probinsiya, ituloy ninyo sa bayan ninyo bagamat mas malakas ang mga sundalong berdugo diyan!
Halatang-halata ang galamay ni Great Switik sa blog na ito. Balimbing ang mga dating!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! PAG HINDI PA BUMABA SI GREAT SWITIK GUTOM ANG ABOT NG MGA PINOY! GASINO NA LANG BA ANG KITA NG MGA OFW. FROM NOW ON WALA NANG FINANCIAL AIDS PARA KAY SWITIK KAYA NGITNGIT NA NGITNGIT ANG UNGAS. MALIIT NA ANG MANANAKAW NIYA. IYON NA LANG SIGURONG BALATO NI PACMAN ANG AASAHAN NIYA FROM NOW ON! MAKAPAL NA TALAGA ANG MUKHA NIYAN KAPAG HINDI PA SIYA BUMABA PARA MAGPAKULONG!
I am for keeping the prayer rally as sacred as possible. Puede naman maging powerful ang dating kahit na puruhin na para sa Diyos. Baka pa nga maging powerful iyon e kesa magmurahan sa entablado.
I am for the religious confining their activities within the walls of their churches. Tama na iyong ihubog nila sa kabutihan ang mga taumbayan. And then, let them be pricked by their conscience para paalisin ang switik.
God willing, mapapaalis din si Switik! Mark my word! Sabi nga, subukang kunin sa santong dasalan. Saka na ang santong paspasan!!! Malay ninyo, biglang maatake si Switik at ang matakaw na asawa niya, or mabulunan ng kinakain nilang masasarap na lechon, etc. paid with taxpayers’ money! This, I think is the purpose of the prayer rally at Luneta.
Hopefully, this rally is the beginning of the end! Next niya ang rally led by Binay, who is the next target of the Great Switik! Kami nga magra-rally din sa Tokyo pagkatapos ng New Year! Lahat ng mga pilipino sa Japan, invited to join. May mga hapon pa pihado!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
ystakei:
I believe in giving my opinion as best I can. No if or but’s, or any reaching out that ‘hopefully Binay will continue the fight’ maybe he won’t. I believe in looking at the evidence available of today and its dismal and sometimes it hurts
well, one should not expect too much from a prayer rally, but if the theme is to unite, it should have said what one should unite against or for.there is a saying that one cannot be disappointed if one does not expect.
GMA and this govt have mastered the art of deceptions. Remember the Dec 30 declaration that she wont run anymore when MJ was about to tell everything? Naisahan na naman tayo.
I would like to think that we could analyze the mistakes that may have been made for such a dismal attendance but in doing so we must be prepared to examine the evidence available and more than importantly call a ‘spade a spade’ when doing so.
Anna: Have just read your Tribune letter. You’ve got the gifted pen! Du hast sehr über Gloria Arroyo berichtet geschrieben! Macht weiter!
The prayer rally at Luneta will remind Gloria and her dogs that Filipinos are not on the deep sleep. Inakala ng grupo ni JDV alyas (daga) na maiisahan naman nila ang sambayanan. I didnt join the rally today, coz i still have to go for work even on sunday in order to have a decent noche buena this Christmas eve for my family. Most of my friends and office mates are willing to go out from work if the rally organizer decided to press for the resignation of gloria, dahil for us it is the main issue and the main cause of this cha-cha bruhahhaha…illegitimacy…. after analyzing the events in our country since gloria rose to malacanang, i realized that its hard to move on with her in the palace… as ordinary citizen sumasakit ang loob naming until now shes still there in the palace na dapat hindi naman sa kanya….when the CBCB announced the plan to have a prayer rally after the railroading of the CON ASS in the HOuse, naitanong ko sa sarili ko at sa mga kasamahan ko na bakit ngayon lang sila pomosition..tinatamaan na rin ba sila? naalala ko tuloy na bumaba ang tingin ko sa CBCP mismo nong merong umaming tumanggap ng pera galing sa malacanang prior to the issuance of statement during impeachment 2. i cant forget it.. nawala ang respeto ko sa maraming mga bishop… ngayon napakalambot pa ng stand nila kay gloria dahil these evil people in the house and malacanang dont need prayers, they have to be punished.. kawawa naman kaming mga tax payer kung hindi sila masisingil, tingnan mo naman, constitution ang binababoy nila…its a big reason to revolt….. by all means we have to move to eliminate these rascals in the government, we dont deserve this kind of officials, self-serving, most of them.
DAPAT MAWALA NA SI GLORIA AT ANY MEANS, i suggest that CBCP , El shadai should issue a clear stand if they are willing to live with gloria as fake president or have her oust. Kung hindi sila manawagan na patalsikin si gloria it means they are giving her more chance to rape our constitution, institutions, to corrupt our military and local officianls, especially if shes still there the killing will continue…Habang nandyan si 4/8 (her height), we cant move on.. we will still demand for justice (fertilizer scam, politacal killings, election fraud, etc.), hindi kami matatahimik until she vanish. The government exist to serve the people, the goverment cant exist without the people, so the paramount law should be— the peoPle should not be hurt, put to hungry, exploit, oppressed and KILL..if all of these things are done by the government, the people has the right to defend itself, it has the right to LIVE….. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE WITH GOVERNMENT RUN BY IDEALS OF THE PEOPLE…. ..
guy_and_mind:
You called a ‘spade a spade’ it hurts but it has to be said.
We-will-never-learn:
Maybe the time is not ripe for true people’s revolution… the rally is the first step.. Peace…
I was there too kanina. Talagang walang mga speeches & mga banners. I was expecting may magsalita even against the will of the organizers. At least nakapagdasal tayo for the country. Hindi masyadong na cover ng mga networks ang event for reasons I’m still guessing.
Nagi-imagine ako while i read comments here. Was it that bad? Had the Filipino people lost the will to fight tyranny, corruption, violence, immorality and everything in between. This is not a good sign. Maybe wwnl is right. Maybe the Filipino people deserve Gloria. This is unthinkable…
Isa sa pinatunayan ng Luneta rally, o bago pa man ito isagawa ay nahubaran natin si Glueria ng tuluyan. Ngayon sa ating bawat amba ay iilag siya sa takot. Pero dahil ang pakay naman niya ay araw-araw na survival lang hanggang sa mamatay, OK lang sa kanya na takutin. Sabi ko nga sa aking previous post ay nakangisi iyan sa umaga matapos ang Luneta rally dahil nakaisa na naman siya.
Ang momentum ay naputol ng umatras si Glueria sa ConAs. Sayang! Balik mura tayo dito hanggang sa mamatay si Glueria!
I was a veteran of many a battle when i was still a student in the Philippines, and Marcos reigns supreme.It hurts sometimes to contemplate that perhaps somewhere along the line, we might have done worse than helping the Philippines to her knees. Looking at where we are heading and the complacency, man, this is disgusting.
Re Tiago’s “Maybe the Filipino people deserve Gloria.”
Honestly, I think there is a legitimate reason: the PNP, AFP, Gloria’s private militia have prevented the out of town rallyists who wanted to join the prayer rally from crossing the multitude of checkpoints leading to Manila, hence were effectively turned back.
The other reason, but this is purely speculation is that the holiday season is getting the better of the moral courage of the Filipinos, either that or most of the Filipino middle class who should lead the way towards moral change are so fattened up that they really couldn’t care less, otherwise known as the APATHETIC MIDDLE AND UPPER MIDDLE CLASS of Pinoys.
A revolution can only be effective in the real sense of the word when all segments of society are involved. The lowest class of a society, as history have proven, has really never led a revolution. This is the sad reality. Only those with the education, the intellectual grasp, the means, financial and otherwise, can effect change, that change can come through various ways, one of which is revolution.
Saw “Blood Diamond” yesterday. The bida, in his exasperation seeing his country a messed up said ” God has already left this country”. Hindi pa naman siguro ‘yan ang sitwasyon sa pinas. Let’s not make it happen!
Anna,
Read your comment in the tribune. Excellent!
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I’m off to the boondocks to let out a big cry for our country!
It appeared the prayer rally leave up to its expectation, nothing but a prayer rally as anticipated. Of course, many of us want more than just a prayer rally, however it was designed to do just that, so we can’t expect more or less. We need to understand that the CBCP and others head of their congregation represent but the religious worshippers outside the house of the lord in Luneta a gigantic open park that can hold more than just the normal religious rites. Once again, bogus Gloria outsmarted the people. You gotta give bogus Gloria some credit, she got her stuffs together. Yet, the people, leaderless, unresources, helplessly trying their darndest to take their country back from the corrupt officials headed by the worst fake dwarf leader of the country, once again came up short of expectation. Well, at least, prayer rally was a good subject just to remind us of what become of the country under the incompetent non-leadership of the biggest thief the country has ever known.
For generalized interest, and as a reminder, the country is at war with bogus Gloria. To battle with bogus Gloria and her dogs one’s must be prepared with all the ammunition available, and must be willing to pay the consequences, it need be. I still think the only way to rid of bogus Gloria for good are the voices of One Million Warm Bodies at the gates of Malacanang, and less than that is not going to work.
Again, people must be smarter than bogus Gloria!
Thanks, Chi.
Make sure you’re well covered and have cold camping kit. Have fun in the boondocks!
Re “Most of my friends and office mates are willing to go out from work if the rally organizer decided to press for the resignation of gloria, dahil for us it is the main issue and the main cause of this cha-cha bruhahhaha…illegitimacy…. ”
Frankly, that’s how it should be.
Our religious blocs in the country can and will never see it that way, unfortunately.
They’ve always seemed to be at odds with what is reasonable and what is not, either they do it for the wrong reason or don’t do it for the right reason. Go figure.
I was at Isetann Recto this pm. The place was really crowded. People busy shopping. Even the tiangge along avenida is bursting with people. I talked to a couple of strangers. They knew nothing about the rally.
A rally overhyped in blogs specially among anti GMA and over reaction from Malacanang. The opposition is back to square one. It’s blame game time. The CBCP is too soft. The rallyist from the province were blocked. The warm bodies were way below of what the rabid anti GMA people would have wanted and expected.
Yes, the people were disgusted with what the congressmen did. But what these congressmen did is not enough to agitate or move the people. Yes, majority of our people are not happy with GMA in malacanang but this discontent is not enough to mobilize the people.
The problem with the middle class is that they don’t know how to capture the imagination of the masa. Yes, the middle class should lead the way. But the middle class should always consider how the masa will react with the call or advocacy or demand or whatever. Without truly getting the masses be part of the change, nothing will really change. After two EDSAs, both lead by the middle class, not much has changed.
Reading some of your comments about the rally, I feel down..is there any other way to throw this woman out?
One thing we’ve learned with all these mistakes, don’t be dependant on the military and religious congregation to do what must be done in getting rid of illegitimate government of bogus Gloria.
Anna;
Read your letter in the tribune. Reflection of us all here. Very surgical and true. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve got to admit, you guys have the patience. i sure don’t have it, that’s why i’m no artist. I tend to view the situation right now as a drawback. A “turnback”, so to speak in engineer’s term that has to be addressed or otherwise it will come back again and haunt the next projects. You know what i mean…
That Gloria is hated by majority of the Filipinos is proven by several surveys.
Yet, rally crowds do not live up to our expectation.
I believe that our idea of People Power which were Edsa I and Edsa II are outmoded. There is people power but it will be manifested in other forms than going to Edsa or Luneta.
How? I do not know? Let’s see how this almost universal outrage for Gloria will take shape in the coming days.
Ms. Ellen,
Come to think of it, you are right when you say “that our idea of People Power which were Edsa I and Edsa II are outmoded. There is people power but it will be manifested in other forms than going to Edsa or Luneta.” As Ystakei said, “Huwag ang mainip. It is just the beginning of the end. Ganyan din nag-umpisa ang lahat ng EDSA. At least, this time, kitang-kita, pure Filipino initiative. Walang nakikialam na mga dayuhang walang lahing pinoy..”
As I mentioned earlier, the quality of the crowd in Luneta was not the usual hakot crowd. There was a cross section of people.
In the meantime, “Let’s see how this almost universal outrage for Gloria will take shape in the coming days.”
Tiago,
Thanks for your comment on my Tribune post.
Good to know that “turnback” is also an engineering term.
“Turnback” in PMA parlance is a cadet who failed the year and has to join his lowerclassmen instead.
Former CSAFP Rodolfo Biazon, now Senator was a “turnback” as a few ex chief service commanders.
guy_and_mind & iraya:
paki-explain kung ano ibig sabihin ng tiange power.
subukan nyong obserbahan ang mga tao sa pila ng lotto , mga bingohan at iba pang sugalan?
tiago says : Maybe wwnl is right.
para duon sa mga Pinoy na nasa ibang bansa.
Sana huwag nyo ng dalhin pa dyan sa ibang bansa ang pagka-Pinoy nyo!
Obserbahan nyo kapag nagpatawag ng tao ang wowowee, eat bulaga, starstruck, pinoy dream academy at mga katulad nito?
Hindi ba’t mabilis pa sa alas kwatro ang mga pinoy? …nandyan agad dahil may kapalit na naghihintay.
karamihan sa mga Pinoy ngayon ay nagiging sakim na. instant money ang nasa mentality ng mga pinoy!
Why there’s no another Edsa One or Two? Because the protagonists today or enemies fighting among themselves are the products or nucleaus of those two Edsas? Cory’s groups and many others including the Catholic Church helped out Marcos and Erap; then they supported GMA. Today, they are against GMA. Marcos loyalists still command a huge following. Many were and will be absent in future rallies partly because the one they hate most (Cory) and her group are there. If Cory’s groups and Marcos loyalists reconcile and join forces, then another Edsa is possible. Many hate GMA today; but there are as many who hate Cory. Even the militants, the poor masses hate her. They remember the Mendiola massacre and Hacienda Luisita murders. Given this situation, how can we expect a united opposition front against this evil Arroyo regime? Perhaps it is in this line why columinist Ducky Paredes is now frustrated with the people’s fight against Gloria and decided to play the same tune.
Should read: “…helped oust Marcos and Erap…”
Never underestimate another people power uprising. It’s now part of our history. This time, it will be different from the previous. It may be deadly and revolutionary, if the abuses of those in power continue.
Elvira,
Merci beaucoup pour vôtre gentillese.
Thanks too to Mrivera and Yuko.
Bakit sa akin hindi ka nagpasalamat, Ate Anna? Puro kayo-kayo na lang…
O sige na nga Artsee, salamat na rin sa yo. Huwag ka lang magdamdam.
GMA and her cahoots were succesful in bringing down the crowd to at least the highest estimate is 100,000 warm bodies. The “shelving” and “archiving” of the con-ass by JDV and the warnings made by all “sipsips” like Esperon, Lapus of DepEd etc. plus the holiday season that remarkably reduced the crowd. However, the bottomline is, while not too many actually showed at Luneta, it was because we, the majority of the masses, were successful in derailing chacha and junking it were it is supposed to be. What we all have to do is to not to be too complacent.
nelbar:
I just read your comment on wowowee concept for drawing crowds to a venu. I’m sure that someone in the television entertainment business would have ideas on how to draw crowds to a venu and more successful than the church leaders were.
Nelbar;
I’ve heard that these shows are crowd drawers, unfortunately, i don’t watch them. Not because i see it as a wate of time, more that it doesn’t suit my taste. I also doesn’t subscribe to personal insults hurl at people’s expense mostly common on these shows, so i was told.
Nelbar, i don’t know what to say,
“para duon sa mga Pinoy na nasa ibang bansa.
Sana huwag nyo ng dalhin pa dyan sa ibang bansa ang pagka-Pinoy nyo!”
Let me ask you this Nelbar, what is pinoy to you. Ano na ba ang ating identity o pagkakakilanlan sa ngayon? Most of the pinoys i’ve asked doesn’t know how to describe a pinoy! We’ve strayed so much that we can no longer put a finger on what a pinoy really is. If you answer this question i will tell you a story.
Tiago, the truth of the matter is, a Pinoy has no identity. It’s not only because we all have mixed blood. It’s more of the way we think and behave. We don’t need to go far. Reading the opinions and comments of the members here could more or less show what kind of mentality they possess. On one hand, they cry “patriotism” and “nationalism”. On the other hand, their ideas and arguments show they still are enslaved with foreign influence.
sino ba itong robert mais na itong humuhusga kung ano ang tunay na pinoy?
kung sino ka man, wala kang karapatang sabihing naiiwanan kami ng panahon! ang tao, sa pagmamahal sa sariling bayan ay hindi ipinakikita sa kaplastikan kundi kung ano ang tunay na nasa kalooban.
alam kong pinoy ka rin, gumagamit ka lang ng alyas! at sa gawi mo’ng iyan na itinatago ang tunay na kaiyohan, mas masahol ka pa sa isang pusakal na takot lumantad!
Hahahahah!
Seems Mr Robert Something is absolutely confused!
Back to basics, Robert V Maich! Hope one day you reach your quest on the identity of the Pinoy.
Npongco,
Same thing goes for you too when you say “Tiago, the truth of the matter is, a Pinoy has no identity…”
You mean that because the Pinoy has mixed blood, or the way he/she behaves, etc., he’s/she’s lost track of his Pinoy identity? Bullocks and bullocks again!
If what you say held, then half of the world’s population, particularly in America, Europe, etc. wouldn’t know where they belonged. Bit shallow reasoning.
The Pinoy is pinoy when he/she pledges loyalty and fealty to the country of his birth and for as long as he exercises the moral right to belong to the nation of his forebears, i.e., Pinas, he/she can lay claim to being Pinoy therefore by moral right, that becomes his IDENTITY, the Pinoy identity until he/she decides that it is no longer his/hers for the owning.
Besides, there are peculiar character traits, cultural traits, social mannerisms, etc. that are distinctly Pinoys in a Pinoy born and raised in Pinas wherever in the world he/she may reside today and there’s nothing the person can do to make that undetectable! Those in themselves identify him/her as being Pinoy or Pinay!
Example: My children don’t lay claim to being Pinoys and have pleged their loyalty to the national identity of their father and the land of their birth – their social and character traits are not Pinoy, therefore, technically and morally, they do not possess the Pinoy identity – FILIPINO.
I may possess a foreign passport but it doesn’t alter my Pinoy identity because I still pledge moral and legal allegiance to Pinas so by virtue of that, I can lay claim to possessing the Pinoy identity.
Let’s not go into splitting hair. Those who spurn the Pinoy identity have their reason and have the prerogative to do so but to say the Pinoys do not have an identity all of which is their own is pushing the envelop a bit too far.
tiago:
si npongco parang pawikan, na maglilibot saan mang lupalop ng mundo at babalik din sa kanyang pinagmulan 🙂
sana ay nasagot ko ang tanong mo 💡
anna, kasi nga, ayon sa naging station ID ng abs-cbn, para sa global pinoy. pampalubag loob marahil upang sabihing binibigyang kahalagahan ng pamunuan ng nasabing istasyon ang lahat ng pilipino sa bawat sulok ng mundo. pero para sa akin, isa itong paglalahad na ang mga pilipino ay kung saan saan napadpad sa paghahanap ng ikabubuhay dahil walang kayang ibigay ang sariling pamahalaan! kung saan bulok ang pekeng pamunuang walang pakialam sa kanyang nasasakupan!
Anna, what is a Pinoy identity? Please explain “identity”. Do we as Pinoys really have this? And to you Nelbar, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Ang karamihan na tanong sa katatapos na rally – Bakit walang EDSA 1 or EDSA 2 na nangyari? Sagot: Dahil pakatapos ng ng 1 at 2, sino ang nakinabang? Hindi ang mga taong sumugod duon at the risk of their lives and limbs, kundi ang ilan ilan lang. Sa EDSA 1, nakinabang ang kamaganak brigade, sa EDSA 2, ang mga Pidals, na sagad sa buto ang kasakiman at pagiging tuso. Iyan siguro ang iniisip ng mga tao, na hindi sila makikinabang. Parang, what for if you were a hero when nothing will turn out good in the end.
npongco, i think I will heed Ellen’s advice here, ignore people like you. You’re like a dog that barks and barks for some confused reason.
ito ba ay may kinalaman sa kasalukuyang salot na namamayani sa pilipinas? kaya tayo pinagtatawanan ng bayarang singaw na pasulpot sulpot dito!
paano magkakaroon ng magandang patutunguhan ang isang ipinaglalaban kung ang mga nagsusulong ay merong hindi pinagkakasunduan?
Robert’s pinoy identity looks like a hodge podge of all negatives, and a facile indictment of Ellen’s bloggers as the worse kind (“The Pinoy is what Ellen Bloggers refer
to Gloria and Mike when they call them names. Example: when they call them Bastos; they seemed more bastos….
He remain absolutely TRIBAL despite advances in science and technology.”).
That’s absolutely unfair. He has forgotten that Gloria and Mike are a different breed of pinoy, and those who lampoon them are of worse breed or tribe? If they are called names by ordinary folks (Ellen’s bloggers), who don’t get anything but headaches and frustrations, that’s because they deserve it as fair game. Putting the bloggers in the firing line instead of the evil couple suggests that the world is upside down. Sorry, I just don’t get it.
iyong sinabi ni Robert V. Maich noong “December 19th, 2006 at 1:41 am “
masakit ba malaman ang katotohanan?
sad but true!
pinoy is the slang word for a filipino.do we have a filipino identity? one that is common to all filipinos?
Norpil, this is my 10 cents worth. People (including us) define that word (identity or pinoy identity) in many different ways. It’s a matter of perception, by and large it is socially constructed rather than primordially transmitted. One commonality of pinoy identity? That’s also debatable. From one perspective, pinoy identity refers to the label attached to Filipinos and their descendants(whether they admit their Filipino-ness or not) who have roots in the Philippines since 1565. The label takes on varied shades and meanings — positive or negative — and keeps on changing with time. Curiously, many of those who deny, or unaware of, such identity are included in the domain of “Filipino” by others, regardless of where they live, the circumstances of their birth, etc. In another perspective, pinoy identity is assumed by some “outsiders” who have lived in the Philippines and feel like any other who love that country. Therefore, pinoy identity can be acquired, preserved, imposed, or even lost, depending on those who define it.
“Nagtalunan na sa palubog na barko ni Gloria” is an apt description to those who are concerned with preserving their pinoy identity in a political way.
Tama ka Ate Anna, tahol ng tahol si Ponga palibhasa kasi may dugong ganyan. Hawaiyanguy, this is my one dollar worth, may identity ang Pinoy…iyon nga lang magulo ang identity. Tulad kong isang Tsinoy…di ko nga alam kung saan ako lalagay. Sakaling mag-away at mag digmaan ang Tsina at Pilipinas, problema ko kung saan ako kakampi. Siguro susuot na lang ako ng unipormeng Intsik at sisigaw ng “Lusob na mga kapatid” o kaya’y susuot ako ng unipormeng Pinoy at sisigaw ng “Tah, tacha tah” (in Mandarin it means fight, everyone fights).
artsee, tama ka. magulo talaga ang identity, malabo din. ang nakakagulo at nakakalabo diyan ay ang ating interpretasyon na minsan ay walang malalim na basihan. sa tingin ko ay wala sa dugo ang pagiging pinoy o pagkakaroon ng pinoy identity. nasa puso at isip ang pagkapinoy, at depende rin yan kung sino ang nagsasalita o kinauukulan.