Exposed to have overruled the recommendation of the panel that conducted pre-trial investigation on the failed February 2006 coup, AFP Chief Hermogenes Esperon wants to know who leaked a copy of the report to media.
“He is furious. He wants everybody investigated,” a Malaya source said.
We got an unsigned copy of the PTI report by Col. Al Perreras, Maj.Erwin Victoriano Machica and Maj. Agustin Matavia last Monday which we posted here.
Esperon said: “I must tell you that the PTI report is a signed report and there is only one copy of that original report, it is with me, and I have turned that over to the judge advocate general so anything that you see in the Internet is not the PTI report.”
Perreras, in his PTI report, recommended the dismissal of the charge of mutiny against 38 officers that allegedly participated in the Feb. 2006 coup attempt as “lack of factual and legal bases.”
The panel also recommended trial by court martial of the 38 for Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer and a Gentleman.
Esperon had ordered trial by court martial for mutiny 30 officers led by Maj. General Renato Miranda and Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim. He ordered the dropping of charges against 8 officers.
Sources said Esperon expressed “displeasure” over Perreras’ PTI report dated Oct. 25. He ordered his staff judge advocate, Col. Pedro Davila to review it. Davila sustained Perreras recommendation in his pre-trial advice (PTA) which displeased Esperon even more.
“It was Judge Advocate General (Col.Nemesio) Dabal who signed the report Esperon wanted,” the source said.
“There are two reports that came in to me. One is the pretrial investigation report of the pretrial (investigation) panel and the other one is the pretrial advice of my staff judge advocate. They (PTI and PTA reports) are the basis for my decisions in directing the court martial of the 30 officers,” Esperon said.
Esperon refused to make public any of the reports which were supposed to be the basis for his order.
Asked if the PTI panel indeed recommended to him the dropping of the mutiny charges against the officers, Esperon said: “I will not comment on the contents of the PTI report and the PTA. I will not tell you the contents. Suffice it to say that they are my references. Whatever are their contents, they served as my references in arriving at my decisions.”
“I do not have to abide by the PTI report and by the PTA. They are my basis (in coming up with the decision). I could refer to them as my basis for my decisions,” he said.
Reporters asked Davila if he upheld the recommendation of the PTI in his pretrial advice,he replied, “That’s confidential. That’s between me and the chief of staff.”
Esperon said he may convene the general court martial that will try the 30 offices in five days.
Email from “junior officers”:
Gen Esperon is a liar and a man of NO moral ascendancy. He does not deserve his position. He knew he cannot lead the AFP so he opted to use an iron hand against his own officers and men who questioned his politicking and his styles.
He exercised authority with grave abuse and arbitrarily. He prostituted the Military justice system just to pursue his personal hate campaign and ingratiate his equally immoral superiors.
Gen Esperon is not an ordinary devil. He is Satan incarnate. He will further destroy the AFP just to pursue his own selfish ends.
He must be stopped before he fully destroys the institution we have loved and served best.
— from the AFP junior officers
Like a little brat who did not get his way, Esperon should be charged with behavior unbecoming of an Officer and a Gentleman!
Why must Esperon be “furious” about this so-called “leak”? He should be getting used to being thrown rotten eggs in his face. To begin with, he is NOT RESPECTED at all!
Esperon must know, too, that his men are not solidly behind him.
To Esperon, I say: GOTCHA, Assh*le
To the AFP junior officers:
Please save the Philippines from being damned to hell!
This guy cheated in the last election for his patron. Everyone knew about it, especially those who served under him. So, why was his appointment approved kundi pa di tupak din sa ulo ang mga nakaupo sa Commsission on Appointments! So many commissions in the Philippines and all seem useless and a waste of public funds. Taxpayers should protest and ask for their abolition!
Chabeli,
Esperon shows his true devilish nature. Katulad ng amo niya sa Malakanyang. This Esperon is NOT REALLY AN OFFICER AND GENTLEMAN. THIS ASSLICK*R IS NEVER A PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER. HE HAS DESTROYED THE GOOD REPUTATION OF OUR SOLDIERY! AT PATULOY PA NIYANG BINABABOY!!! LAHAT NG PAMBABABOY SA ATING MGA INSTITUSYON AY KAGAGAWAN NG PEKENG ADMINISTRASYON NI GLORIA.
And Yes, Patriotic Junior Officers, KAYO ANG PAG-ASA NG BAYAN!!! KAYO ANG TAGAPAGLIGTAS SA MGA KAAWAY NG BAYAN. SAVE US FROM THIS TYRANT, DEVILISH AND OPPRESSIVE GLORIA REGIME!!!
Ellen,
Re: “He must be stopped before he fully destroys the institution we have loved and served best.
— from the AFP junior officers ”
The AFP junior officers should know that there’s only 1 way to stop Esperon before he fully, etc., etc. – Esperon should be relieved and retired most unceremoniously, prerogative of the president of the republic.
Short of a “legal” way, they can opt for the “illegal” way, i.e., AFP officers and men sign a petition asking their commander in chief to relieve him. We know that this is next to impossible, hence they have another venue. Come out into the open and denounce him in Congress. The act would require extreme bravoura and courage. They have to be at least a battalion to do that – to testify.
Again, this is almost impossible. Hence, I will throw their statement back at them and say, “What do you have in mind, soldiers?” followed by, “And what do you intend to do about it?”
At this juncture where clearly the government is in connivance with helpless politicians, some lawless elements, and many law breakers, these officers are the only ones who could solve the Esperon problem. They know have a duty to the institution they serve and to the Republic they serve – their message said that. They alone could realistically fix the Esperon problem today.
If these officers cannot do what they have to do, it is safe to assume that their civilian counterparts will not be able to do it for them.
The Mutiny charges against the patriotic soldiers will not hold water as what the pre-trial panel report has shown. As I said before that Esperon will invent stories and present incredible witnesses. Esperon only want these soldiers jailed and immobilized while he is at the helm because he knows that these officers and soldiers has the RESPECT of the ranks. And his position as AFP-THIEF(CHEAP) is in DANGER. Palagay ko walang kakampi itong si Esperon sa military eh, dahil wala nang RESPETO SA KANYA. Ginagamit lang niya ang sinipsip niyang posisyon kaya siya may boses. Pero MALAPIT NA ANG KATAPUSAN NG PAGHAHARI-HARIAN NILA!
Another way is to continue with the “sabotage”, eg, leaking official papers, leaking memoes, official reports, etc. prejudicial to Esperon, and let Esperon panic towards self-destruction.
His threat of having “everybody” investigated reminds me of Hitler frothing at the mouth – he will self destruct inevitably if the AFP officers (who wrote the missive) continue with acts of “sabotage”.
Luzviminda,
I haven’t read the actual or official charges against the officers but from media reports, it would be easy to dedeuce that there was an attempted mutiny. Col Querubin’s act in the stand off in February, I thought, was heading towards mutiny. He backed off so the charges could be less serious, insubordination or something similar.
Military law is clear cut. There’s no room virtually for mis-interpretation.
The Oakwood so-called mutiny, strictly speaking was an attempted coup d’état and not just mutiny.
I wouldn’t go as far as to morally condemn these young officers. When the military institution starts to have elements in its ranks who go as far as what they’ve gone, something is very, very, very seriously wrong. On that basis, the command responsibility should fall on the shoulders of their superiors, their superiors should have been SACKED right away alongside these young men.
That their commander in chief failed to do that is symptomatic of abnormal times under a lawless regime. Therefore, I cannot blame the “Oakwood mutineers” for doing what they have done – but I would still put them in jail!
mga kapatid,
tahimik lang ako nitong mga nakaraang araw.. alam kong may nakamasid dito sa mga ginagawa ko sa blog..alam kong tinatarget ako dahil akoy nasa militar..Alam kong na-compromise ang comp ko..
“THE PARTY” alam kong bistado nyo na ako..Alam kong kayo ang nananakot sa akin sa telepono…Sige, tugtugin nyo,isasayaw ko…
Just about everything in the Government of Ms Gloria now is for sale. Leaks are everywhere, because everyone will not think twice of selling (even their own mamas) anything for the right price. Of course the leakage of the report was not done by anyone for patriotic purpose at all, but somebody who did it for something in return. Let the better devil wins the day, and in the end each and all of them, will face the day of reckoning.
Noel, don’t worry if the events in the country will affect my health here. Just done my regular checks today with my neu and family doctor and by all counts, am in better shape than the ‘fatso’, only he’s in millions of times better shape financially than most of us or to the millions of Filipinos who have been screwed left and right by this couples plus their “puppets” of Generals and clowns..
Vic,
Careful there… we don’t know if the leaked report (JAGO’s unsigned thingy) was in exchange for something financial.
I’ve come across one or two military officials who’d done this sort of thing in the past because they had no other option but to go “public” through media by leaking a certain AFP report – nothing to do with some monetary exchange or favor.
Anna,
I may have generalized my conclusion of the leakers, but on the average, mostly in the past the people who leaked these “thingy” did them mostly for personal benefits. The Garci tapes leaker, did it to pay off his expensive lifestyle and he could not even prepare a fool proof back up evidence to make it stick. For all we know, it could have been Esperon who engineered the leak himself, but I still bet when things clear up, that it’s the same old, same old thingy..
As for the Perreras and his PTI colleagues, I hope this is the signal that the conflict has reached its tipping point. More good men, no longer few, are standing up for righteousness and truth. It is the writing on the wall that is there for Pinoys, uniformed or otherwise, to see.
Soldiers of the people, do your patriotic duty, that which you have sworn to the flag and under the constitution, to be the protectors of the people. In the end, the people, law and justice, and God will be there to protect you for removing this wanton regime that thrives on knavery, and a leadership that dissembles on the guise of the rule of law, forcing on the already-burdened people its dissolute brand of what is a cheap excuse for governance.
The young officers are right, the leaders are not ordinary devils. The only way to topple evil is by doing what is right, morally, patriotically, and STRATEGICALLY! Do whatever you need to do. NOW!
Our dreams will never die.
Sana, Apoy, kung patutugtugan ka, “Lupang Hinirang, “Pilipinas Kong Mahal”, o “Bayan Ko” ang awiting marinig mo. Iparinig mo sa iyong mga kasama, damhin ninyo ang bawat titik at siguradong hindi kayo magkakamali.
Hindi mo na kailangan pang sumayaw. Punasan mo na lang ang luha mo.
Ingat, kaibigan.
salamat toungue T,
pero sa totoo lang,kinakabahan na rin ako…akalain mo bang matunton ang IsDblog at telephone ko??
Anna, what I know is that the ‘Oakwood Incident’ is not a mutiny, but it is originally a PROTEST ACTION of the ‘Magdalo group’. It is about their various grievances, lack of supplies, selling of arms to the enemies, corruption of the top officials, the ‘palakasan’ process of promotion, nad most especially the bombings in Mindanao that purportedly at the orders of the high officals (as The Greenbase Document). Napaka-kawawa naman talaga ng lagay ng ating mga sundalo. Buhay nila ang nakataya. Imagine, butas na boots, punit na uniporme, sira at inferior quality na mga helmet, inadequate food supply, no rescue helicopter na magdadala ng mga sugatang sundalo for medical aid, no housing at iba pang grievances inspite of the BIG BUDGET FOR MILITARY NA NAPUPUNTA LANG SA BULSA NG MGA CORRUPT GENERALS. Trillanes & co. has the guts to stood as leaders for their poor comrades because they can stand to loose their job dahil may kaunting kaya sa buhay. Yung mahihirap na sundalo ay NAGTITIIS NA LANG. MOST OF OUR SOLDIERS LIVE IN SQUATERS AREA whilw the CORRUPT OFFICERS LIVE IN SUBDIVISIONS AND CONDOS.
Luzviminda,
I agree with you entirely on the causes and the reasons why the young idealistic officers led by Trillanes did that. However, my opinion on the attempted coup d’état is technical and not moral.
The fact that the Oakwood so called mutineers came with cachés of arms, weapons, bombs with a threat to blow up the establishments in Makati, that in itself constitutes an attempt to commit a coup d’état because they, the people who threatened to do it are military officers.
We know that they accepted to surrender and face trial under AW but they were double-crossed by Gloria – on that score, to me, the State negated its own action, hence, they – Oakwood “mutineers” and accusers (the State) find themselves on even keel morally.
As I’ve said, military law is cut and dry, it’s harsh, harsher than civilian law. In a working democratic republic, the minute military officers breach military protocol in favor of a vilolent intent and act, they violate military laws. Of course, the application of military law in RP is in itself debatable for the reasons you cited.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t condemn these young officers morally but I am sure they are aware of the technical judiciousness of what I am saying. They are entitled to the best military legal defence (if ever they are court martialled) and to my mind, they should face not civilian courts but military courts.
If it were up to me, the ones who should be in the docks are not these young officers but Angie Reyes and the group of star ranking officers who led the mutiny against Erap. The rule of law, Constituional law was breached, the moment that was breached, everything else cracked so in effect, why shouldn’t junior young officers crack?
Luzviminda:
The word “mutiny” did not come from Manila as a matter of fact. It was coined by foreign media covering the Oakwood incident.
I was called to do translations for a TV studio early that morning in July. I remembered that day because we were supposed to have a meeting on the OAV registration procedure. I was supposed to preside in that meeting but I had to excuse myself not really because I was more interested in the fees I would receive for transcribing the tapes received from Manila, but I was curious to know how the reported coup would end. I actually prayed that it would be the real macoy.
I was told to make phone calls to Oakwood to check on the condition of the Japanese tourists staying there. I was told that the foreign residents were safe and were being transferred elsewhere they could be safe.
We expected more, but most of the transmissions were coming from Malacanang. I hated those sipsips who came to the rescue of the Bansot for money. Then there were members of the families of the mutineers being shown on TV to appeal to them to surrender. I thought that was real dirty!!!
By 3 pm, the soldiers started coming out of the Oakwood Hotel with the understanding that their grievances would be heard and they could return to duty because it actually started with some complaints that the Bansot never had the desire to hear.
I went home disappointed that day as a matter of fact, because I wanted the Midget removed. That was 2003, and there was already the talk of the Midget breaking her words to run for president while the opposition were still undecided as to who to chose to run against her.
In reporting that incident on Japanese TV, the word “mutiny” in Japanese was used instead of coup d’etat.
No use crowing about Oakwood now. That is history and today we hope to see action that would bear totally different results. The young officers are speaking and they should be heard.
Now we wait for them to make their move.
Apoy, hindi mahirap matunton ang ID mo. Pero kung seryoso ka at ayaw mong madaling mabuko, i-download mo ito: Handbook for Bloggers and Cyber-Dissidents o kaya’y pumunta ka sa website ng Reporters Without Borders (Reporters Sans Frontieres). Ingat uli.
Anna,
Trillanes was actually interviewed by the media while his companions set bombs around the area, and he talked about it as a desperate way of seeking redress for their grievances, and I think they were willing and ready to die for it, but they were tricked into surrendering by Cimatu, et al.
I remember Honasan there trying to appease them. So, why is he now being implicated in that mutiny? If he is guilty, they should also implicate Cimatu, et al who talked the soldiers out of firing their weapons and detonating the bombs they planted around the Oakwood.
You know Yuko, I might be thumped for saying this (am speculating ok?) Gringo was involved in that Oakwood affair – perhaps not directly but tacitly. Difficult to be categorical but I don’t have a high esteem of Honasan as a military officer.
Anna,
You know my stand against philanderers, and this guy is one. My sister was the doctor of one of his women, who was being treated for VD! But I also hate injustice, and I see injustice for how this guy has been treated.
Sabi nga noong Congressman that I watched when I was a child, “Kung bababa ako dahil sinasabi ninyong babaero ako, I challenge EVERYBODY HERE, bumaba din kayo!” In short, Anna, parepareho lang!
Yep, I understand.
In my case, I don’t even want to discuss Honasan’s extra-marital angle, to me that has strictly nothing to do with the military issues at hand.
It took a lot of gumption, gall, and temerity for Esperon to do what he did. Kaya nagpapakita lang ito kung gaano siya kadesperado. Pero alam niya na hindi naman makakaangal ang mga nasa ilalim niya. CHAIN OF COMMAND. A soldier follows first before asking a question, if ever, if he’s got a lot of counter-gumption. Sa tutuo lang, ngayon na ang panahon ng pagkilos. Pero kailangan ay taya ang lahat, pati pamato. At tila hindi ganuon karaming sundalo ang kaya ng dibdib upang gawin ito. Ang marami ay naghihintay, naniniyak kung sino ang mananalo bago sila kumampi. Wais!
Pandawan,
I think it’s difficult for soldiers, especially the young ones to turn their back on their military training which is as you say, OBEY and sometimes, OBEY BLINDLY – this is the essence of their being as troops.
Senior officers have a wider leeway, they can “interpret” orders.
But as you say, at some point (today for instance), officers have to have the bravoura, the determination to raise their military calling to a moral level in the midst of what’s happening. That too is their duty.
Kaya sabi ko nga, they alone could fix their problem – not the civilians. Gaya ng sabi mo, “Sa tutuo lang, ngayon na ang panahon ng pagkilos. Pero kailangan ay taya ang lahat, pati pamato.”
I forgot to have dinner – am hungry; will go down to lobby to eat a sandwich… see you.
O ayan, sikat na sikat na ang blog mo Ellen. Read on…
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Chi, this blog is where it is now because of all of you who support this. Thank you very much.
Magkano ba ang buhay ni Esperon at bibilhin ko? Ang halaga niya pang-shopping ko lang.
Anna,
You’re right, Sabotage might be the best game for these officers. That’s the only way they can fight back this Asoperon.
we are now in a crisis again.this time the further disintegration of the afp.one of the most elite and highly disciplined armed forces in asia, an institution that bred honorable men, a bloodline to the integrity of the Filipino as a nation and the most battle tested, disciplined army in this part of the world has been compromised by one man to serve his evil master.hindi na ako magtataka kung bukas sinalakay sila ng mga komyunista, separatist muslims o di kaya’y mga gun for hires at mag-take over ang mga ito.paano naman kaming mga ordinaryong mamamayan sumusunod at nagbabayad ng tamang buwis, kumakayod ng sampung oras bawa’t araw may makain lang at makapag-aral ang mga anak?
The good men in the AFP are treated as criminals, while the corrupt and cheaters like ASSperon and company are enjoying the fruits of their illegal acts, courtesy of the evil queen and the fatso.
Thanks, Florry. I think our young officers could do that, not without risk, but it would be a way to jar Esperon and perhaps cause him to make monumental blunders.
Force him to make blatant errors, to contradict himself, etc… Don’t know if it would work but heck… worth trying.
if this is not remedied and cured, the afp will collapse.the result is unquantifiable.foremost is the exposure of the philippines to “viruses” and or “infections” foreign or domestic which could lead to the dearth of filipinos as a people, as a race.
with the head of the afp can no longer distinguish the white from black and the black from white, patay tayo dyan.after his illegal but major participation in the garci tape scandal, esperon is in real deep shit. what is going to happen to our country general, sir?
You said it, Anna, hindi importante ang kulasisi ni Honasan, but since they are including this bit of information to destroy the integrity of this much maligned soldier, I thought I should mention it.
TongueT says the Oakwood fiasco is now history, but with the trial of the leaders of the group without justice and the betrayals, etc. that these crooks in the government and military are encouraging these soldiers to commit, one cannot help but wonder where the Philippines is going to, and if Filipinos can really defend their country when the time comes that it is attacked by enemies from the outside, even by the Americans who have been doing that even to their former allies.
We must remember that because of the Boba’s claim of Al Qaeda cells in the Philippines, Dubya Bush has in fact included the Philippines in his Axis of Evil, for which I guess she was advised to quack support for the invasion of Iraq.
I agree that now is the time for patriotic and brave soldiers to show where their loyalty really is. They are not duty-bound in fact to follow a bogus president, who should have been disqualified, arrested and prosecuted for crimes committed against the Filipino people, whom these soldiers have actually pledged to protect and die for.
It is just too bad that the Philippine police have leaders who come from the military now that there seems to be a confusion now as to what their functions and purpose for being are. This is one of the things that should be corrected in fact if they want the police there to be functional and not as a lame duck with it being led even by a political appointee who is a cousin of the bully and menace to freedom of the press.
As one born in the Philippines, this is the least I can do to help in this struggle to make the Philippines be free of these crooks Filipinos themselves have installed because of their ignorance and gullibility, but are duty-bound to try to remove by all means possible. I will support any movement that has this for a purpose because I would like to be able to say with pride that I was born in the Philippines.
Ellen:
I have recommended this site, Malaya and Tribune to my friends in the Japanese media for updates on Philippine news if they want real news and not propaganda.
My blogging here is also being monitored for possible hacking as I have volunteered to be part of some experiment on how the government can track down hackers, spammers, etc. in connection with the implementation of the new Internetting Law of Japan that is not aimed at suppressing press freedom but more to control the activities especially of those who are apt to use the Internet to commit crimes such as what the Internet Brigaders of the bogus president are actually committing when they try even to spread viruses, worms and bugs to bloggers in this and other fora for Filipinos, especially those who criticize her.
As for the soldiers of the Philippines with their sense of duty and loyalty to country and people still intact, I cannot help wonder why they would not try to act altogether at once to defy this bogus regime! They should all walk out for example when Esperon delivers his threats to show their disgust. They should not allow this bogus Chief of Staff to act like a moron and treat them like the idiot that he is!
To all the decent men in uniform, panahon na para ipakita ninyo ang tunay na pagmamahal ninyo sa bansa. Bakit kayo papailalim sa isang bogus president na alam naman ninyong nandaya? Kahit sundalo kayo, mamamayan pa rin kayong may mga karapatan sa ilalim ng Saligang Batas na sinumpaan ninyong susundin at itataguyod. Hindi naman kayo basta papayag na maging tautauhan ng mga pekeng pangulo at heneral. Sabi nga ng mga kasama natin dito, ipakita ninyong hindi pa “napitpit ang iyong mga yagba!”
Apoy,
You should not blog through your cellphone. Get to some friend’s house who has DSL if you cannot get to a computer at some cafe that offers it for free in exchange for a cup or two of coffee, etc., and then make sure to tell your friend to get Lavasoft Adware to clean up his registry so you won’t be tracked down.
Ellen,
Thanks for keeping us updated with the news from home. Your efforts are much appreciated. God bless and keep you for it.
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8: 32)
AFP junior officers: He must be stopped before he fully destroys the institution we have loved and served best.
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Whatever you plan to do, suportado kami. What do you plan to do? Ingat lang kayo sa mga kinakausap ninyong mga balimbing!
Apparently, the Permanent People’s Tribunal is no useless exercise. Countries like Lebanon in fact is now resorting to this kind of criminal to solve the political impasse there especially with these assassinations blamed on Syria, etc.
I would opt in fact to the UN recommending a peacekeeping team to monitor actively the election in 2007 similar to the one they arranged before for Cambodia to insure that no cheating can be done by the now veteran vote-riggers even from the AFP.
apoy, as a former man-in-uniform like you, am longing to see the dawn of “new hope” for our native land. you should have been cautious when you joined this blog. nasa active service ka pa naman.
kung totoong nasundan ang mga bakas mo, maaaring narating mo na rin ang dulo kung saan kailangan mo ang tumpak na pagpapasya. mamili ka, unahin ang sariling kapakanan o tuparin at panindigan ang hinihingi ng iyong sinumpaang ipagtatanggol ang katotohanan para sa kagalingan at kalayaan ng nakararaming mamamayan sa kamay ng mapanupil at abusadong nasa inagaw na kapangyarihan.
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from the AFP junior officers: “Gen Esperon is not an ordinary devil. He is Satan incarnate. He will further destroy the AFP just to pursue his own selfish ends.
He must be stopped before he fully destroys the institution we have loved and served best.”
your words must be followed by your action. alam na ninyo ang mapait na kahihinatnan hindi lang ng buong hukbong sandatahan kundi ng sambayaanan kung pababayaan ninyong mamayani ang kabuktutan ni esperon.
it is now time to redeem the rules which have been destroyed and wrecked by the one supposed to be adhering and protecting it!
Oops, this should read: Apparently, the Permanent People’s Tribunal is no useless exercise. Countries like Lebanon in fact is now resorting to this kind of CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL to solve the political impasse there especially with these assassinations blamed on Syria, etc.
Sorry, about that. Nagmamadali kasi ako. Now, we’re taking a break for another 30 minutes.
Hi Ellen,
Thank you for immediately posting the unsigned PTI report. I have attended the pre-trial investigation because my husband is one of the respondents of the case. As a journalist and law student myself, I do not want to make a pre-judgment myself but what I know is that all along, Gen. Esperon has been pre-judging the case and considered himself “popish than the pope” or better yet a demi-god. If he is furious about the leak, then let him be because the families of those affected are more furious than him. What is not fair is about the Pangcog case, why is he not included in the GCM? He is the G3 and he is the one who gave the radio message for the deployment of troops to augment the 10th SRC based then at Fort Bonifacio before Feb. 24. Why all of a sudden is his name not included when the PTI resolution stated otherwise? Is he the STATE WITNESS in exchange for his freedom? Good for him that he has no children to worry about. No children to ask for their daddy this Christmas. I was even lucky to visit my husband always but how about those who could not afford it?
What I am asking is for Esperon to be transparent and make public the PTI and PTA resolutions. Has he forgotten the HONOR CODE? GENERAL ESPERON SIR! ALL RIGHT BA YAN?
P.S. I cannot see my other comments here…is someone hacking this site? Hmmm…kupal kayo.
invictus,
moro moro lang ang PTI na ‘yan. anumang findings ang ihain ng JAGO o IG, meron nang sariling conclusion si asoperon. ready made judgment. bakit? dahil alam niyang walang coup attempt ‘nung february at kaya pinagpipilitan niyang idiin ang mga isinasangkot ay dahil nalalaman niyang magbu-boomerang sa mukha niya ang lahat.
bilang CSAFP (kung matino) dapat i-observe niya ang innocense ng mga akusado (daw) habang hindi pa napapatunayang nagkasala nga o lumabag sa AW’s kung anuman ang mga kasong dapat hilang harapin.
saan ka ba nakakita ng heneral na walang pakundangang binabale wala ang medal of valor na dapat saluduhan? siguro, dito lang sa administrasyon ng mga anay!
Invictus,
Just to be clarified, are you saying that Esperon was part of the so-called “coup plot” (more like a withdrawal of support, if you ask me.) against Gloria?
Chabeli:
On the other hand, he could have been present there if there was to spy on them. Otherwise, he would not be appointed by the Pandak. He probably was getting fidgetty at that time pulsing his fellow soldiers and finding out that a lot of them had already been contemplating on toppling down the abusive bogus Tsunano. In short, nakikiramdam lang siguro ang ungas, puedeng sa pula o sa puti parang sabong!!!
i am so glad that at last the media people was able to pip the so called “military injustice system”… please i am begging the media to dig out more about the issue,… im begging you to help us family of the milirary officers who were ILLEGALLY DETAINED by gen esperon…. we’ve been so furious in asking help from the media because we believe and were hoping that gen esperon will still respect the military law despite of the fact that he illegally detained our husbands, peru hindi nya ginawa un…. now we are breaking our silence… alam nyo bang ang daming foul play na ginawa si gen esperon sa issue na to? the rangers were illegaly detained in the first place, bakit? how can u detain a person without a case yet? yes it is under the court marshal handbook na the commander has the authority….peru restrict to barracks/quarters lang… ang ginawa sa kanila maximum detention na kaagad kahit sa PTI palang…incommunicado, visitors restricted to family and counsel, malayong lugar….. ginaawa yan without a charge yet!!!!! isnt it a violation of human rights? soldiers are not second class citizen, they are human…
From Ystakei:
-‘I agree that now is the time for patriotic and brave soldiers to show where their loyalty really is. They are not duty-bound in fact to follow a bogus president, who should have been disqualified, arrested and prosecuted for crimes committed against the Filipino people, whom these soldiers have actually pledged to protect and die for.’
I ggree to that Ystakei!
Anna, Your point taken and respected!
if gen esperon will not respect JAGO…. eh di tangalin na lang ang JAGO sa AFP…. let gen esperon be the chief of staff, the prosecutor, the witness… sya na lang lahat!!!! so funny… grabe kahalata ang pagka power corrupt ng tao na to:) i firmly believe that GOD is addressing him right now, kung sa ngayon may power sya,sana he will not forget that GOD is more powerful than him…. dati we kept our silence… through prayers….peru ngayon the family of these officers and men are begging you filipino people to help us fight and seek for truth and justice. maawa kayo sa amin, grabe na ang hirap na dinaanan namin sa ginawa ni gen esperon…ok lang sana to see our husbands behind bars if they are criminals….if alam namin na may kasalanan sila…peru most of them are just following the chain of command…my husbands idealism and patriotism is at total reck…sinayang ni gen esperon ang courage ng mga junior officers…. bakit hindi ang mga corrupt military officers ang ilagay nya sa kulungan? un ang crime, crime ba ang sumunod sa utos ng senior officer? please mam help us dig out the truth..im looking forward for your reply
That’s exactly it, Anna.
Sabotage is the most effective way to thwart Esperon and his Boss. And soldiers know how to do it. Part of their training. Confuse the enemy. Get him unfocused, unhinged.
dear fellow filipinos
i have been deeply and greatly affected by the recent events involving the military – the supposed pillars of defending our liberties. definitely, we are not geared towards the right path. the institutions of the country are no longer relevant, they rest on extremely weak foundations. very soon, everything will crumble, the effects of which may be disastrous. we are bound to lose not just a system, but the very flame which keeps us going.
i feel bad about General Esperon, a General expected to uphold the very principles of justice and honor within the organization. the man has many children, the youngest a three year old. i pity the children, what an example and name their father would leave them. no trace of honor, prudence, leadership nor integrity could be found from the general’s name. i pray for esperon constantly, i believe that prayer has its powers. that the lord may touch him and hold him more tightly, that he may see and feel the effects of what he tries to do. i pray to God to have mercy on his soul, like those who crucified christ, esperon knows not what he is doing.
everytime esperon tries to make himself look regal and strong in his dark green suit, he makes himself look like a try hard, a hungry child, desperate for a feeling of importance, social value and recognition.
sir, with all due respect, you cannot win these things through force. respect begets respect. honor begets honor.
Who is this Military Wife? A new member? I don’t think she’s Gringo’s wife? Could she be our friend Mr. Rivera or this Apoy’s wife here? I hope new members could share their names or use at least their first names here as their blog names. For example, I’m Noel and we have Vic, Anna…just a suggestion, though.
esperon is no tougher than the likes of miranda, lim, querubin, parcon, deleon, caringal, banez, aquino, malabanjot, flordeliza, hizon and the rest in detention. his honor cannot compare to neither of these soldiers. they are far too righteous for a man like him.
to our heroes in jail, please, never stoop to the level of your chief of staff. kahit ano gawin sa inyo sir, wag niyong tularan. deal with esperon with respect, ipadama niyo na buhay parin ang pagiging kadete niyo at yung diwa ng pagiging A-er. when the time comes, all these will fall in place. esperon will have very few time to regret and repent. when he finally meets God, he will crumble in shame. and you sirs, noble filipinos, those who are humble will be exalted. your nobility will never be forgotten, your commitment to the values of christ always remembered. this is not the end, you shall always be in our prayers. keep your nobility. walk with pride sirs. endure the hardship just like christ did, for after the long trail, you shall experience emancipation. not just for yourselves, but taking the nation with you. God is with you. he is preparing you for your greater roles one day. after this test of character, you will one day emerge victorious, with the knowledge of what you have been through as inspiration to pursue the dreams you have.
i represent a group of young students of the ateneo college of law. para sa junior officers, pag isipan niyo ang inyong gagawin. asahan niyo na kung ano man ang ibig niyong gawin, naririto ang bayan sumusuporta and tumatangkilik sa inyong ideyalismo at ipinaglalaban. simulan niyo, tatapusin to ng sambayanang pilipino.
huwag na kayong mainip, malapit na itong wakas
matatapos na rin itong dusa, dalamhati’t paghihirap
dumarami na ang kakamping mga mata’y namumulat
punahin n’yo’t isa isang pumapasok dito sa blog.
pasasaan ba’t minimithing pagbabago’y makakamit
kung tayo’y magkakaisa, magsasama’t magbibigkis
isaisangtabi ang hidwaan, pagkakaiba’t pagkainis
kapakanan nitong bayan ang una nating isaisip.
si ellen ay nagmistulang isang mitsa ng pag-aalab
pagsalungat sa gahamang mapang-api’t mga huwad
impit man ang tinig niyang sa wari mo’y walang lakas
ang tapang n’ya’y madarama sa talim ng panulat.
kayong mga naghihintay lang ng milagro’y gumising na
ibukas na ang inyong isip, imulat na ang inyong mata
huwag n’yo nang hayaang lumawig at magtagal pa
ngayon na ang sandaling kagitingan ay ipakita.
Ellen, Just a thought, if the wives and families of these honorable military men will come out in the open in full force supporting them, it will help catch the attention of the local and international media. I doubt kung ipakukulong sila ni Pandakekang, ang takot lang niya sa international media.
Tutal, yayariin din naman ang kanilang mga mahal sa buhay ng pekeng administrasyon na ito, bakit hindi nila simulang mag-ingay habang may panahon pa. Kung ipahuhuli sila, at least may nakatuon ng media sa kanilang ipinaglalaban. Kung may gagawang interview or feature articles tungkol sa buhay nila, e di mas makabubuti sa ipinaglalaban ng kanilang mga mahal sa buhay na pinagtutulung-tulungan ngayon ng mga walang budhing pekeng pangulo at asswiperon.
Hemorrhage Asspeon is the product of illegitimate govt of illegitimate Gloria. So, what can one expect to the credibilty of Assperon, a person without honor? It’s a doggone shame such person holding such position in the govt. Assperon will get his day of judgement, it’s just a matter of time. And so is bogus Gloria, Miguel and those bunch of illegal occupants stinking the house of the people. I can’ wait! Is it not that Assperon is one of the Henerales mentioned in the Hello Garci? So why would anybody be surprised of Assperon behavior, or whiy would even anyone will give the time of the day. Instead, this Assperon guy should be taken to Muntinlupa for some attitude adjustment. Anyway, the only reason Assperon to where he’s at now only because he sold his soul to the head of the devils and kisses bogus Gloria’s where the sun doesn’t shine. Anyway, this Assperon shouldn’t be taken seriously and should ignore instead, He just wants some public prime time to legitimize his very existence. And he doesn’t deserve whatsoeveer tha his name printed and/or mentioned in public. The best thing is to ignore Assperon, hoping he’ll go away. I also understand, Assperon is like a bad decease it’s sometime impossible to rid of him, like bogus Gloria, Assperon’s queen and partner in crime.
Ateneo blogger,
Very noble of you – so priest like, if I may say – to advise the officers blogging here NOT to emulate Esperon.
Allow me to make a few comments which I hope you won’t take badly.
When you tell the young military officers to “deal with esperon with respect, ipadama niyo na buhay parin ang pagiging kadete niyo at yung diwa ng pagiging A-er.”, you will find that even in conflict situation pitting junior officers against senior officers, by tradition, junior officers will always show respect however difficult, even when it’s almost next to impossible to contain one’s resentment.
In this direction, Esperon is extremely lucky that NOT ONLY do the AFP officers of lower rank and their men exercise the military tradition of respecting their seniors, they ALSO have the latent Filipino culture of respect for their elders. Anywhere else, in a Western Army for instance, it wouldn’t be as cut and dry as that.
Having said that, you are asking them, the good officers who have devoted their lives in the service of the nation for something beyond any human tolerance. Esperon is NOT worthy of respect because he DOES NOT RESPECT neither his calling, his comrades in arms, the nation, its laws and recognize no justice. It is essential that a military officer holding the highest office in the AFP is held with respect – HE MAY NOT BE LOVED, BUT HE MUST HAVE HIS ARMY’s RESPECT – if that is in great doubt, Esperon no matter the rank he holds becomes A FAIR GAME and I mean a fair game for the rest of the institution. Esperon IS NOT THE MILITARY INSTITUTION – he is merely its temporary chief, that he had turned it into the most despicable institution next to Customs, makes him a fair game.
You also said, “when the time comes, all these will fall in place. esperon will have very few time to regret and repent.” I don’t know what you mean by that but if you are saying that Esperon would die a violent death, you are negating your previous admonition of not touching a hair in his head.
Lastly, it is incredible but this constant reference to the heavens is like leaving one’s fate to God. Why this reference to God all the time – what good would the admonision of leaving everything to God do yet we, the people, citizens of the republic still expect these officers and soldiers to kill, maim, vanquish their enemies who are not foreigners but their own people – they are their compatriots.
Remember, the military are expected to do tasks that are beyong the calling of any civilian, they are expected to KILL and to VANQUISH the enemies of the State – even if these enemies are .
When you say, “when he finally meets God, he will crumble in shame. and you sirs, noble filipinos, those who are humble will be exalted. your nobility will never be forgotten, your commitment to the values of christ always remembered. this is not the end, you shall always be in our prayers.” you are in effect asking them to act like Christ. That is IMPOSSIBLE Ateneo Blogger – remember, you expect your military to defend you TO THE DEATH IF THEY MUST AND TO INFLICT DEATH to another, so how could you ask your military to commit themselves to the values that Jesus Christ, our Lord hold – THOU SHALT NOT KILL! Pardon me Ateneo Blogger but this is the most ignoble, hypocritical admonision I’ve ever heard. Again, you must remember that the military by the nature of its mission, is expected to do tasks that are beyong the calling of any civilian, they are expected to KILL, to VANQUISH, ELIMINATE the enemies of the State so that YOU may live in peace.
However, I agree with your following admonision, “keep your nobility. walk with pride sirs.”
I agree that the families of these oppressed soldiers should band together and come out and tell the people their horrible experiences at the (wrong)doings of Esperon. Expose the harrasments that the high military leadership is doing. There are a lot of things going on in the military that is in the guise of ‘top secret’. I believe that the people will support these suffering families, they as one of ‘collateral damages’. I, for one will support them.
Hi Chabeli, regarding the role of Esperon, well, maybe he was just around to spy and trick his mistah (Miranda) into believing that he is for a common cause of lobbying for change in the government.
Esperon trampled on other upperclass just to get to where he is now. No matter what it takes and even if it means putting behind bars these idealistic soldiers. I could not say that all are innocent depending on what overt acts have been committed, but the point is, due process must be followed.
Esperon is acting like he knows better than the lawyers who are tasked to conduct the investigation. Somebody earlier commented here that the JAGO must be dissolved since their output is not respected. And I agree to that. I greatly respect the lawyers, who even had their mug shots taken at Tanay when they visit their client. How dehumanizing. Whoever is the law teacher of Esperon at the Academy, may we know how he fared in the class? Tangent o like hell ang grade nya? Kung 10.0 man din, he does not deserve that. It is very basic that due process must be observed at all times and yet this was not done. In fact, even if the PTI was going on, some of the officers were brought to Fort Boni from Tanay to undergo a separate inquiry. Why is that? Is it to harass these officers (since they were individually brought to Ft. Boni or they were trying to get a possible state witness all along? Is Pangcog one of them? There were just a few who were brought separately all the way to Manila and a lot of things could happen along the way. In fact, there were rumors that they were about to liquidate one of the soldiers/officers at that time to sow fear and as part of their tactic). Until now, the detained soldiers are incommunicado with their fate in the hands of this unworthy general. But of course, I fear nothing because as Sun Tzu said, “Know your enemy and you will not fear the result of a hundred battles.” We know our enemy..and it is Esperon. He has no heart. How many wives gave birth with their husbands at the detention center because their requests to be at the hospital was not granted? A wife or two even tried to commit suicide because they could not bear the difficulty any longer. Will Esperon want that to happen to his wife and children? Maybe he does because he acts like he is invincible.
On the issue about the wives and families coordinating with each other, there were efforts done already but not as solidly and visibly as expected by others.
Indeed, all the evil things done by Esperon must be uncovered and vigilantism should continue even with the ASEAN Summit, which could overshadow the issue of these detained soldiers. When Esperon announced his resolution for the GCM of the 30 soldiers, it was a day after Paquiao won with the hope that it will be buried among the news. I hope that the resolution will be reversed and the real one be made public.
This is a blog and visitors are entitled to choose their loggin names. If you want to use your real name, that’s okay. If you want to use an alias, that’s perfectly okay too.
Invictus says, “On the issue about the wives and families coordinating with each other, there were efforts done already but not as solidly and visibly as expected by others.”
Konti pang pwersa, kasama ninyo kaming mag-iingay dito sa blog kapag handa na kayo.
Hi Chi,
Oo…pag hinog na ang panahon..aalsa din ang mga kababaehan. May mga isyu lang na inuuna ng mga ina at ilaw ng tahanan na siya na ring naging ulo dahil sa pagkakulong ng mga kalalakehan. Mahirap din maging “ina-tay” pero tuloy ang laban.
Isang mainit at maalab na pagbati sa inyong lahat at maraming salamat sa suporta ninyo.
Thanks, Ystakei, for your comments to my question.
Military Wife,
I, like you, am supporting your call in URGING the media to look deeper into Esperon’s moves.
I also hope that Human Right groups all the over the world will take this issue of Esperon and denounce the injustices he has made!
Military Wife, I pray and support you in this trying times created by Esperon!
Hi, Invictus. Thank you very much for answering my
question. I am not in the military, but I can feel your pain, and I must admit, it breaks my heart. In fact, I AM FURIOUS at Esperon after reading your reply!
I would, however, want to commend you, Invictus, for your courage in expressing your feelings here, in Ms. Ellen’s blog. You will find many here who will make you feel comfortable. I also pray and hope that no matter how small, we will be able to alleviate your hurt. Rest assured, in this blog, you are amongst “supporters.”
Hello Garci military chief General Hermogenes Esperon possibly based his decision to persecute the 30 patriotic military officers on manufactured evidence and fiction. The Malacanang propaganda line-the Left and Right conspiracy does not hold water. The JAGO pre-trial investigation and recommendations suggested the dropping of mutiny charges. There’s no valid reason to prosecute them in a sham court martial. The Esperon general court martial a.k.a. kangaroo court is nothing but a show of arrogance and ego boosting. He wants to tell his bogus commander-in-chief, “I’m in control boss”. I have the reason to believe that his decision to convene the general court martial is influenced by Satan and the evil Malacanang empress.
Apoy,
Abg sabi nyo ay: “alam kong tinatarget ako dahil akoy nasa militar..Alam kong na-compromise ang comp ko..
Please be safe. Will pray for your safety.
To the Ateneo Blogger, you must be so proud of your school that you use the name here. Without offense to all the Ateneans, this Jesuit-run school produces not only great men and leaders; but many crooks as well. Nani Perez and this Fat Guy Mike are all products of Ateneo. The DOJ is run and controlled by Ateneo Mafia. Ateneo and her Jesuits were instrumental in the ousted of two legitimate presidents, Marcos and Erap.
Yes, why should the Filipino soldiers be forced to respect a sipsip, who does not deserve to be the head of the AFP for all that he did to insure that he gets his present position now—nandaya for the Bansot.
I agree. The wives of these soldiers should think of banding together and join the PPT for example and present their grievances there for they are victims, too, of the atrocities and oppressive acts being committed by this bogus administration that must have actually demoralized the Philippine military and render them ineffective in case the Philippines is attacked from the outside.
It’s time really to right the wrong. Time to remove the bogus president. Time to show the world that the over-greedy dwarf was not voted by the Filipinos but cheated, even bought votes with money plundered from the national treasury, including the funds paid for by the OFWs, to remain on the throne she grabbed from the duly elected president of the Philippines in 2001 and 2004.
It is called “electioneering” which is a crime as prescribed in the Philippine Election Code, which states that a cheater can be disqualified, arrested and imprisoned. It is the same in Japan, too. The only difference is that our police cannot be dictated upon by elected officials and bureacrats. They abide by the Criminal Procedure Law, etc. of Japan. They do not connive with those in position to cheat in elections unlike in the Philippines. Instead, they watch these candidates very carefully, and see if they will try to break the law. If they do, they are arrested and properly prosecuted.
Also, over here, we do not see soldiers or policemen overseeing the elections. No person with guns are allowed to come near the polls here. It is actually not about discipline but a lot of common sense and obedience to the law.
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! Good luck to the wives of the officers now under court martial. Nasa likod ninyo kami.
You said it,Anna. Esperon is NOT the military institution. He should be sacked. The wives of the military officers now being threatened by these crooks of court martial and deprive them of the pensions and other fringe benefits befitting soldiers who have risked their lives for country and people should demand for the removal of these crooks appointed by the bogus president even just to restore the Filipino trust in the Philippine soldiers. Hindi iyong nababoy na rin ang tingin sa kanila ng sambayanang pilipino! With Esperon as example, ang tingin na sa mga sundalo mandurugas na rin!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! WALA NANG URONG-SULONG! SUPPORT THE LITIGATION VERSUS THE OPPRESSIVE FATSO, AND ALSO THE PERMANENT PEOPLE’S TRIBUNAL FOR THE PHILIPPINES TO BE CONVENED IN THE HAGUE IN MARCH 2007!
Hi, Anna de Brux. I agree with you that “Esperon IS NOT THE MILITARY INSTITUTION”. The same way that GLORIA must realize too that she IS NOT THE PHILIPPINES! Funny, but Gloria and her Legions have soooooooooooo much in common!
Chabeli:
The Tagalog term for that is “HIBANG!” As my mother says, “pumasok na sa ulo ang kagaguhan!” In short, nasira na ang ulo sa kayabangan, kaswapangan at kagahaman!
Ellen:
I know it all along, but thanks for making it clearer to everyone. Like you said, this is a blog.
Thanks, Ystakei, for the new word, “Hibang.” It is sure is true that we learn something new everyday. Thanks, again.
The military wives (and husbands) of the imprisoned good officers and troops of the AFP am sure are banding together to form the most solid rock in support of their spouses.
We can expect them to form “groups” or “committees” that will take care of the humdrum worries that families, eg, legal, medical, familial, etc. in that situation can do with the help of benevolent and concerned civilian groups.
There is one thing that they can do very well is to obtain intelligence reports no matter how miniscule; they can collate these on behalf of their jailed spouses and propagate them. They can be as effective as any warrior group.
Being married to the military has given these spouses some of the best lessons in life – tactical as well as pracitcal.
I’m married to a military man (and was once a military person myself) and know what spouses can do in time of adversities, as we used to say WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH? THE TOUGH MUST GET GOING….
salamat sa mga concerns nyo mga kapatid..
sabi nyo kailangan nang mag-ingay ang mga military wives..
ok yan!!! aprub..
pero paano naman kung kulasisi lang??
Okay lang kahit kulasisi lang sila’y may karapatan din mag-ingay.
A, apoy dapat ba magtayo na rin ang mga kulasisi? Mahirap, dahil alam ko pag pinagsama mo yung mga kulasisi ng mga heneral, mas marami sila kesa sa mga tunay! Tawag nga ng mga barkada ko, J1(as in Jowa #1), J2, J3, etc. para nga naman disimulado.
Pinatatawa ko lang sina military wife/invictus para they can take hold of themselves even if just momentarily.
Seriously, military wife/invictus, I suggest you put everything you know in writing, include pertinent dates/time so that you may not regret later on what very important facts you may deem helpful in your husbands’ cases have been forgotten. It will be mental torture for both spouses knowing that the husbands will not be treated and judged fairly, of course, nothing ever is, under this bogus regime. You cannot always rely on your memory especially under these situation.
It will likewise be physical torture since you will now have to bear the burden of raising your families without your husbands’ salaries and benefits sustaining your income. Or their presence.
Secondly, create a support group where you will draw strength from. You will have to carry the burden at home, alone, since your husbands are nowhere to share it with you. I can ask friends from Gabriela to lend support but in this case, military men are involved so I will not. We all know where they lean, don’t we? I’m not familiar with the other non-radical women’s groups, but you will need their expertise in organizing, as well as in counselling, and in looking after the kids when you have some important things to attend to, maybe, even legal help. Some will even go as far as livelihood training for the unemployed wives.
Thirdly, plan your moves collectively, and get unanimous commitment on whatever actions you, the wives and dependents, decide to take.
Fourth, I also recommend you continue blogging here in Ellen’s and continue sharing with us how the cases progress.
There. Now you also know that this will be over soon. Prayers, backed with guided actions, will make sure of that. But while it isn’t happening, it would be wise to consider my suggestions as starters, and you can discuss it among yourselves who are in the same boat.
My prayers, and that of my family’s.
Hello tongue-twisted,
Thank you very much for your support. As much as all the spouses and loved ones of these detained soldiers would like to be organized, not all have the luxury of an internet connection or computer at homes nor the time to join the blogs. The daily survival for most of us is more imminent and imperative that indeed a support system is needed. But I hope that any organization will not contain any political color or upperclass system that exists in the Officers’ wives. Everybody must be treated equal. That was why when we had a meeting with the rest of the wives, I joked with my friend lawyer and fellow journalist that the wives were acting a rank higher than their husbands. It is dividing the group than uniting it. The one who should take the lead should have the moral ascendancy also to do so, otherwise it will be a futile effort. I hope this will not be taken negatively. I just want others to see all sides of the issue if only we want to succeed in this effort.
I joined the military also and it was disgusting to see rampant corruption going around that I was totally disillusioned. And it was a big whammy once again to see this kind of injustice in the military.
The detained soldiers were not treated well. Remember the recent typhoon that hit Luzon? The soldiers were literally wet like poor rats inside their detention room, as the windows had no sufficient cover because the people there feared that any glass will be used as a weapon against them. Those who get sick will have to wait for the next day to have their medicine as it needs to be requested.
They could not even own a mere nailcutter to trim their nails because it is considered dangerous. Is it being careful on the part of the guards or mere paranoia?
There is much to be said and shared but today will be another day to face reality that I and the rest of the spouses have to move on and take it one day at a time…one day at a time.
“ystakei Says:
November 22nd, 2006 at 11:55 am
Ellen:
I have recommended this site, Malaya and Tribune to my friends in the Japanese media for updates on Philippine news if they want real news and not propaganda.”
I add ko na rin ang uniffors. Nakakatawa lalo na yung mga cartoons nila.
Umiigting na ang pag aalsa ng sambayanang Pilipino sa bogus na President na ito at sa kanyang mga alipures na mga mandarayang opisyal ng militar!
# Chabeli Says:
November 23rd, 2006 at 12:22 am
Thanks, Ystakei, for your comments to my question.
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Don’t mention it, Chabeli. Actually, we’re here to brainstorm, and I love to add to sensible comments like yours, and people I love to interact with. Otherwise, I clam up. I find it a useless exercise to take on people I disagree with, and attempt to convince them to believe in what I feel very strongly for. I rest my case on the jerks, creeps and the Internet Brigaders of the Bansot in all forms.
Invictus:
Having served in a Japanese prison as interpreter, I can understand the restrictions. It is not paranoia except that police brutality is common in the Philippines, and I can understand likewise the possibility of overdoing the restrictions.
As for the windows there not being properly insulated from rain and storm, sobra naman ang pagka-primitive because the truth is there are nonbreakable glasses similar to those now being used for cars. Ang problema kasi, money to be used for building modernized prison facilities are stolen and kept in some private bank accounts!
Over here in Japan, with the increase of foreign offenders, they have built new facilities and they are kind of modernized. There are a number of restrictions, too, that I, myself, found at first to be quite severe and unnecessary until I saw the reason for such restrictions.
Over here, for example, prisoners cannot wear anything with strings because they can be used by the despondents to commit suicide. Jewelries, etc. are a big no-no inside the prison, too.
Even staff like me have to follow some rules. We cannot take into the inner sanctum our cellphones for example for they could be stolen by the prisoners who are not allowed to contact their next of kin except through letters. We leave our phones in the lockers provided at the gate.
Prisoners go through a regular medical check up, and sick prisoners are given ample medication when they are sick. In fact, there was a Filipino prisoner who suffered some kidney problem due to overdose of drugs, and he had to go through some dialysis all throughout the time that he was in prison. He could not work and had no savings. My heart bled for him when he was being interviewed for his release after serving 75 percent of his jail term. He asked to be allowed to finish his term. He said, “Kasi, Ate, kapag pinauwi nila ako, pihado mamamatay ako agad kasi hindi naman kaya ng pamilya ko ang dialysis ko. At least, dito libre kaya kung puede, Ate, pakisabi mo dito na muna ako!”
Kakaiyak talaga! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
I should add that over in Japan, conjugal rights are not allowed during the time the prisoners serve their prison term unlike in the US where they are even allowed to get married inside the prison.
The purpose in fact is to make the prisoners realize the difference between freedom and not being free. Still, there are prison guards being arrested and punished for brutalities, etc. they inflict on prisoners when reported to the authorities concerned, and the prisoners getting duly compensated for cruelties done to them.
One thing different, too, is that there seems to be no difference between a detention house and a prison in the Philippines.
Kawawang bansa! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
invictus Says: “Oo…pag hinog na ang panahon..aalsa din ang mga kababaehan.”
kung kailan man ‘yan, huwag n’yo nang patagalin. alalahanin sanang ang panahon ay lumilipas at hindi na babalik kailanman. mas maaga, mas mainam. mahirap ang magkukumahog kapag gahol na sa oras. consolidate your supposed to be members and plan your action.
huwag kayong mag-alala, kasama ninyo ang sambayanang pilipino sa inyong ipaglalaban. nandito kami upang magsilbing suporta ninyo.
fencesitter, how about some legal advice?
let us not fight over the role of the jesuits, ateneo, et al in producing people like nani and mike. tanggap naman siguro ng lahat yan, and theres nothing we could do about it. let us quit bickering and start getting our acts together. let us work and let us meet and let us plan. sana, sa future blogs natin, let us avoid comments which could divide. instead, let us focus on uniting each other for our sake.
now, why do i say let the heavens take care? if theres one thing ive learned in international relations, that is that the world is run by the institutions and by human emotion. it is a fact that human emotion has a lot to do with the affairs of any human society. it is not easy to plan how to light emotions, or to conspire to make people revolt. as history shows, only divine providence allows for that. it is not easy to penetrate into the hearts of people, we must acknowledge that we need prayers and we need God.
second, with the respecting of jun esperon. i dislike the man, both personally and professionally. being sinful aside, i look at him as a poser pretending to be tough when his toughness is nothing compared to those he persecutes. he was just an aidecamp, nothing much of a battle officer. however, if we do as he does, what makes us different this time? if we become as dishonorable as him, ano na pinagkaiba natin? let us fight our battles. let us win them with nobility. even if it means failing the first few times, ayos lang basta noble ung ating gagawin.
third, is the issue of ideology. wla susunod sa laban na ito if the following are not existent a. shows the bigger picture b. reflective of the past and present c. presents a vision for the future d. includes solid ways to achieve it.
to the bloggers, start working on these things. build up an ideology, steps which we could take towards a path leading to righetousness and progress. strategies. let us use our minds and connections. use the media to expose, expose and expose. use the papers and blogs to expose and expose. use our warm bodies to express dissent and our voices to express dismay. move. go for it. let us not forget to immerse ourselves in prayer, and from then on we could take the first few steps onwards.
gloria is loved by the middle class kasi kahit papaano, fallacy man o hinde, nagpapakita ng direction si gloria. her economic projections, truths or lies, are taken by some people to be true. any follower would follow a strong leader as projected by the leader. give us an alternative. a vision. sino at ano ang dapat nating gawin. at kung meron kayong suggestions, post it here. and we could start from there.
Thanks, Ateneo_blogger, for giving this sugestion: “sa future blogs natin, let us avoid comments which could divide. instead, let us focus on uniting each other for our sake.”
But if there are those who insist to be petty and divisive, my advice is “IGNORE”. Thanks.
ateneo_blogger:i donot know if i am in the middle class but i certainly do not love gma.that people believe her projections? Polls show people do not trust her.bloggers are not politicians who are supposed to serve the people.anywhere in the world, it is the politicians who must have visions and not ordinary people like me.
ateneo blogger:
>use our warm bodies to express dissent and our voices
>to express dismay
iyong mga mahahabang pila sa POEA, job placement agency, job expo at iba pang katulad nito ay isang halimbawa na ng warm bodies na sinasabi mo.
Karamihan sa mga college graduate ngayon ay naghahanap ng paraan para lang makapag migrate o makapagtrabaho sa ibang bansa.
>gloria is loved by the middle class kasi kahit papaano,
>fallacy man o hinde, nagpapakita ng direction si gloria.
huwag mo kaming turuan na maging submissive!
ilang daang taon na nang ituro nyo at ng mga kauri mo sa mga Pilipino ang kahulugan ng submissive.
hindi pa ba sapat sayo ang ipinapakita ng mga libo libong graduate ng ‘education degree’ na handang magpaalila sa ibang bansa tapos ay magbabanggit ka dito ng ideology?
>international relations
Kung iyong ikukumpara ang Pilipinas sa mga bansa sa Asya at Africa, abante ang Pilipinas sa HUMAN TRAFFICKING dahil kakuntsaba dito ay ang gobyerno.
Mapapansin na sa bansang Hapon, Tsina, Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, HongKong at Taiwan ay kakaunti lamang ang porsyento ng kanilang populasyon na tumatakas papuntang ibang bansa para lang makahanap ng kanilang ikabubuhay.
Pinagaganda nga lang ito sa media at sinasabi na sila daw ay mga BAGONG BAYANI.
Pero kung ikukumpara ang EXODUS ng mga Eastern Europeans noong 1989 papuntang WEST ay halos parehas din dito sa Pinas.
Ang pinagkaiba nga lang ay ang mga Pinoy ay namamalimos para mabuhay.(Siguro naman ay hindi na kaila ito sayo dahil nakakapanood ka ng Eat Bulaga at Wowowee sa tanghali)
>noble
gusto mong imulat ang nobility?
eh kung si alex noble nga sa mindanao eh hindi pinansin ang “noble cause” nya, ngayon pa kaya???
Alam nyo, naging matagumpay ang AFP sa Pilipinas ng ipamukha nila sa sambayanan na ang salitang “rebolusyonaryo” ay isang nakakatakot na multo.
Na ang sino man na nagdadala ng isang kaisipan na magpapalaya sa isang tradisyunal na mentalidad ng mga Pilipino ay “kaaway ng lipunan”.
Pero ang karamihan dito Pilipinas na mga nagsipagtapos pa sa mga naglalakihang unibersidad ay mga exploiter o mapagsamantala sa mentalidad ng mga Pinoy.
Umaasa ako na sa nalalapit na “bagong umaga” ay mawawala na rin ang kulturang Eat Bulaga at Wowowee.
Maisasakatuparan lamang yan kung magkakaroon ng tunay na rebolusyon!
Ateneo_blogger at mga kauri mo, kayo ang natatakot sa isang makatotohanan at tunay na rebolusyon!
Sigurado ako na isa kang asul.
Ako naman ay “red” as in ‘Red Kapunan’!
ateneo_blogger, “gloria is loved by the middle class kasi kahit papaano, fallacy man o hinde, nagpapakita ng direction si gloria.” I think we should be talking here of past tense (Gloria WAS loved). She was more liked when she was senator and later as Vice President.
Sooner, she will be part of history – among the despised rulers who are remembered only for their evil deeds.
I don’t see anything good in her economic forecast or direction. Her vision for the country (i.e., becoming a first-world country in 20 years) is not even a dream, its plain hallucination. Her “strong Republic” is as vacuous as Marcos’s claim of a “great Nation.” I don’t think the middle class believes her, except those people around her and the porky boys (and girls) of Congress.
Norpil, you’re right. By Oct 2004, GMA’s net satisfaction ratings continued to slide down from -6 to -11 (see SWS surveys, Chart 1/Table 1 – May 1986-Sept. 2006). In the last survey, Arroyo’s rating (a MINUS) “is more or less equally low among the middle-to-upper ABC classes (-20) and in the very poor E class (-18), but not as bad among the masa or D class (-6).”
Surprisingly, Gloria is more disliked by women than men. This blog is just a reflection of that trend.
Overall, her dissatisfaction score is close to 50%, very much similar to Pulse Asia’s recent poll results. Judging from these ratings, she is the worst president since 1986 that the Philippines has ever had.
ateneo blogger: suggestion ko lang, why not initiate the movement. I didnt hear so much ateneo voices in these present legitimacy crisis. Please do not give us the impression that ateneo is playing apologist to its infamous alumnae.
Di ba motto nyo, men for God, men for others. Pakita nyo ang gilas nyo. Convince us that you also are indignant of what GMA has done to this country.
With your(jesuit) influence of the Philippine society, eh siguradong madadagdagan ang pressure kay Bansot to face the legitimacy issue or better still leave Malacanang peacfully.
Prayers alone will not solve a political problem. As the saying goes: “Nasa tao ang gawa, nasa Diyos ang awa.”
What if that problem is caused by evil men pretending (or masquerading) to be good? Remember, the Malacanang bright boys announced that the 2007 election is a “fight between good and evil.” People need to act in the face of this taunt, they should vote out those pretenders. And to make their prayers happen, they should also be on guard against those thieves (of ballots and people’s money).
As to this guy Assperon, people should kick his ass while they pray that his soul should go to hell where he and his “small” boss rightly belong. Maybe ateneo_blogger can help organize a praying brigade to do that.
Ystakei, how interesting your quentos of what your experiences in Japan are. It is these experiences you narrate that, I hope, most of us can gain from, and be able to discern on what the right thing should be versus comprimising ourselves each and every time in this country! So much so that most Filipinos think that compromising is a solution when in actually, it is the people who are sacrifice themselves at the expense of the powers that be. It is no wonder how a Gloria can thrive in a society like ours, when in other civilised countries, a Gloria would have been be-headed, so to speak!
ano raw? glutonia is loved by the middle class? marinig nga lang ang pangalan nakakasuka na at ang mukha kapag nakita ng sinuman kung maaari lang lamukusin parang toilet papel at i-flush sa inodoro dahil ‘dun lang nababagay! uuuuwwwwaaaaaaaarrrrrkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!! sori, bumabaliktad ang sikmura ko! tumulo tuloy ang luga, este luha ko pala. ho hummm! (hikab)
You bet, Chabeli, if Gloria had been an official in Japan, matagal na iyan nakakulong if she could not have the guts to commit the much better way to gain forgiveness for her sins—by self-destruction, either by hanging herself in some hotel bathroom or jumpin from a tall building. Ganitong katindi dito kapag nawalan ng mukhang ihaharap sa madla! Too bad, that there is no such thing in the Philippines especially now when the rule of the game is PAKAPALAN NG MUKHA! 😡
The Bansot loved by the middle-class. I doubt! Loved kunyari dahil malakas magpadulas!!! Gamitan lang naman sila!
Over here Chabeli, the likes of Bansot and the Fatso cannot flourish because of a very responsible citizenry. At least, there will always be people willing to join protest rallies regardless of whether or not they belong to some group. We support political parties that we believe will represent us properly in our Diet, but I doubt if there are anybody here willing to die for their favorite politicians the way they do in the Philippines especially during elections.
Also, we have a socialist, communist and in-between parties to oppose the ruling party and prevent them from abusing. That way the political balance is maintained and kept.
We also have a very strong media backed up by a very strong and powerful press club. Mahal ang bayad but boy, the protection they give their members is something that I still have to see being done by similar press clubs in the Philippines. Walang nakawan ng membership fees. Kung meron, madaling makita. At walang sipsipan kaya may unity even when they do their reportings. Over here amazingly, they have learned to compete in harmony and unity. Walang tagaan sa likod. Wala kasing dugong aso! 😛
Sinong may sabing walang ipapalit kay Bansot? Ang daming ipapalit. Nagsawa na lang sigurong makigulo. Hindi naman sila naa-appreciate. Puro propaganda lang si Pandak. You don’t consider this crook as indispensible, etc. when she can be the worst crook who is oblivious to the sufferings of her countrymen by feeding them propaganda, and doctored figures to support her lies about an improved economy. Sinong niloloko niya?
Even remittances sent by Filipinos to their families are stocked overseas, being gambled in some money market scam, etc.! Kaya iyong mga financial institutions overseas napapakamot na lang ng ulo sa mga figures na ipinapalabas ni Bansot at ng mga kasabwat niya! Hindi mag-tally sa projections nila at actual figures na ibinibilog sa kanila! Lahat kasi kathang-isip!
Since GMA has become the worst RP leader and among the worst in the world, anyone who replaces her would be welcomed by the people. That’s how desperate people are to get rid of this evil woman. Anyone…anyone except Gloria! Now, what are the people waiting for?
SAME HERE NORPIL!!! Exactly!
# norpil Says:
November 23rd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
ateneo_blogger:i donot know if i am in the middle class but i certainly do not love gma.that people believe her projections? Polls show people do not trust her.bloggers are not politicians who are supposed to serve the people.anywhere in the world, it is the politicians who must have visions and not ordinary people like me.
>gloria is loved by the middle class kasi kahit papaano,
>fallacy man o hinde, nagpapakita ng direction si gloria.
Ganoon ba ateneo blogger? If you haven’t noticed yet, the middle class you’re talking about is outside of the Pinas already, baka ikaw na lang at iba pa ang natitira diyan!
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Nelbar says,
“huwag mo kaming turuan na maging submissive!” YEAH!
Isa pa nelbar, nasaan ang direction na sinasabi ni ateneo blogger? Direction sa pagkatay ng mga critics!
Guys,
Si Reyna Glue Pandakekang raw ay mahal ng middle class!
Ateneo Blogger, are you yanking our chains?!!!
Ateneo? Diyan galing si Fatso! Baka si Luli pa nga iyan e. Lalaki lately ang pangalang ginagamit para hindi makilala! Ang kaso halata pa rin. Ang dating tuloy parang binabae! “Oy mestiso, halika dito!” ang dating! Yuck! 😛
Yuko,
I would accept the tenet ““That’s how the military justice system works. It is harsh but we can assure you that it is fair. ” if it was said by MSgt Galang of The Philippine Army but never from Esperon, who really goes by the monicker, Chief, Malacanang Hit Squad.
Ask his PMA upperclassmen.
Esperon and MajGen Joey Calimlim, former PSG chief and J2 AFP used to share this “prestigious” title that even ex DND Usec Feliciano Gacis PMA Class 55 used to be so scared shit of them!
I was the first if not among the first to say that the Big Fat Pig Mike is an Atenean. This country is run by the Ateneo Jesuits Mafia. Shame on these featherless blue eagles!
nice of u to drop by ateneo blogger..i’ve always dreamt that my son will be in ateneo but he chose dlsu instead…nearer and atlst i think realistic for us as he chose a course where dlsu is considered a center for excellence with regards to his chosen career path…let me go back..ummm…
– loved “buy” the middle class – i am lucky to consider myself in the middle-class, hoping we will not “retro-gress” bec of ds bogus admin…maybe u mean middle-class like those in the congress..they are s’posed to be be serving their constituents and should be within the reach of the people but i think between lower(real taumbayan) and middle class tongressmen, et al – there’s still light years distance between them. even my diplomat frend who used to be here in the pinas never liked her aura when pandak was in the ovp!
maybe ur still too young and idealistic…maybe u should just concentrate on whatever ur still taking up or better be with the cefam group and u will see the light…the light that will clear the daylight out of these glulttons in the palace.
Ateneo blogger says “let us win them with nobility. even if it means failing the first few times, ayos lang basta noble ang ating gagawin.”
Nobility depends on the calls of the times. I’m not sure kung ano ang “ayos lang basta noble” na ibig mong tukuyin. But under the aministrayon of this fake pangulo ang aking ibinibilang na mga miembro ng nobility ay ang mga sumusunod:
1) Our very “Men of Honor”
2) Their families who have suffered long enough
3). The 43 journalists and others who are being sued by Mike Pidal for libel only because they chose to criticize his and his wife’s wantonness
4)The OFWs who continue to remit $$$ just to prop up this fake administration of Glue so that their families and friends will sure to eat at least 3 times a day
5) Those in their own big and small ways are fighting this excessive regime of Reyna Pandakekang
6) THE BLOGGERS HERE who continue to make dakdad, dakdak, ingay, ingay!
Meron pa ba? Paki-dagdag na lang.
Yehey! Mabuhay tayong lahat na miembro ng nobility!
Problem, Anna, was there was the attempt to deceive. Plant bombs, and then detonate them and blame the rallyists for them, and shoot them pointblank if they resist admitting to such crime/frame-up. Iyan ang ikinagalit ni Querubin as a matter of fact. There’s nothing fair in that!
Sinong noble ? Si Bansot whose trying to link her lineage to even Alexander the Great? Pwe! Halata namang bakya! Sira na talaga ang ulo! Hibang, YES!
Isn’t it an insult to the middle class to say that they support Gloria?
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Npongco,
I liiiiiike your comments: “Since GMA has become the worst RP leader and among the worst in the world, anyone who replaces her would be welcomed by the people. That’s how desperate people are to get rid of this evil woman. Anyone…anyone except Gloria! Now, what are the people waiting for?”
Chabeli,
Re: “Isn’t it an insult to the middle class to say that they support Gloria?”
101% insult – my Mom, my brother and sister in Manila refuse to be associated with the so-called middle class supporting Gloria!!!!
Anong nginangawa ni Esperon. Ke pirmado o hindi, iisa ang nilalaman ng papeles na na-leak sa blog na ito. Bakit pa siya nagsisinungaling! Gosh, general ng AFP, Chief of Staff pa role model sa kasinungaling at katarantaduhan! Golly, bakit iyan na-approve? Kakahiya! Ang kapal ng apog!
You bet, Chabeli, the Bansot Jr. just throw the bloggers here an insult. It’s the usual gimmick of presenting the rich as wiser than the poor Filipinos, many of whom now are being forced to leave school or not attend school at all, and made to work in factories at age as young as 10 years old.
I don’t go by this line of thought as a matter of fact even when I have not know deprivation before, now or ever. Intelligence is God given. It is in fact just a matter of knowing how to use this God-given gift properly and for the glory of God. Demonyo lang ang nagsasabing kampon lang niya ang merong talino for “the glory of God is intelligence.”
83 percent ng mga pilipino ay galing sa mahirap, and a lot of them in fact are still below poverty level. Sila ang nasa majority. True, ayaw nila si Bansot, and in a democracy the majority rules. Intiende?
Oops, not throw but threw! Ang galing pang mang-insulto ng ungas kundi pa natin alam na nakaw at abuloy ng mga gambling lords naman ang karamihan sa kayamanan nila ngayon!!! Pwe!
Bogus presidente! Baba na! PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA! Oops, tulog na muna ako!
Hi, Anna de Brux. I should think that it would be a “101% insult”! After all, in whatever class one may belong to, I think it is a GARVE INSULT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH GLORIA! In other words, it isn’t sosyal to be with her! Look at those left in her cabinet? Most of whose careers are dwindling, if not gone. If Gloria does NOT bring prestige to the country, she most definitely DOES NOT enhance one’s career!
Simply put, GLORIA LIKE HER HUSBAND IS WHAT ONE WOULD TERMS A LOSER!
GMA is claiming that the Middle Class supports her because there’s no really a Middle Class in the Philippines to speak of. Is there? Either you’re rich or poor. There’s no in between. It’s different from the US where the Middle Class people are more; thus, the nation is strong. Not in the Philippines…Let’s not be deceived again by her empty talk.
Ystakei, I agree with your comment that “It’s the usual gimmick of presenting the rich as wiser than the poor Filipinos”. This is sooooooooo OLD thinking! Gloria is the face of the TRAPOS; the HAS-BEENS of politics. That should explain why their moves are super baduy and not understood by the modern human beings of the Philippines. Gloria and her Legions have evolved politically!
And if I may add to your comment, pitting the rich against the poor is a very dangerous and desperate move. This is what ERAP also did towards the end (of his presidency). Many in our elite today have-maybe not vocally-lost all respect for Gloria. Come “D-Day” you will see their faces.
Chabeli, Yuko, i agree. In terms of street smarts and common sense, i think the proportion of people who possess these qualities is the same across all classes. Those in the middle class who continue to support Arroyo just reveal their own cognitive limitations. Sa totoo lang, napakaraming matatalino at maabilidad ang hindi nabibigyan ng tamang pagkakataon dahil sa kanilang kahirapan.
Sinabi mo pa, CVJ. My maternal grandmother, for instance, never went to school not because they were poor because her family was one of the landed gentry in her barrio, but during her time, women were not required to have any education for they were not supposed to work and be bread winners but simple homebodies. A little knowledge of cooking and all those household chores were conceived as enough for women to learn. But amazingly, she had more wisdom than the college graduates I know, myself included, especially those who simply memorize their textbooks and eat everything their tutors, teachers, lecturers and professors feed them. Her home remedies in fact have saved a lot many of us from being born with those maladies modern-day doctors have not even found a cure.
Tignan mo naman si Ale Boba. Ipinagmamalaki pa iyong doctorate degree daw niya sa Economics, pero tignan mo naman ang labas! Pimp na binubugaw ang mga kababayan niya kung saan-saan as Super Atsays/Atsoys! I wonder if she has cared to ask how many of these Super Atsays/Atsoys she and her deputy pimps at the Labor Department have been raped, maltreated, etc. by their employers, and a lot of them ending up as the other woman or semi-prostitutes.
And she calls this her number one achievement, even calling Filipinos she pimps overseas as the Philippines No. 1 Export Commodity! Para sa kanya magandang pakinggan iyan!
How did I know this? We just aired a special on these Filipinos on NHK. I did the transcribing of volumes and volumes of interviews of these women, who have actually become wanton and wayward! Bugaw? You bet, the Bansot is! 😡
Hey ateneo blogger!No offense meant, but you do sound like an atenean, flowery and fluent, bordering in the subliminal in your words!I hope and pray you won’t turn out like our present (rotten)crop of politicians, trapos, who are likewise flowery and fluent in deceiving the People.Anyway, whatever choice you’ve made,we’ve made, we all live and pay for it.As for me, it’s just simple, I want a president whom I can look up to and trust!Regardless of whatever schools we came from, we have to unite to oust a liar and a cheater in our country!Esperonshit obviously, doesn’t command any respect from the soldiery, much more the Filipino People!Hey Apoy, be strong, this fake gov’t. will end soon!Keep your idealism, and your fellow soldiers alive!Pls don’t give in and loose heart.We have no interest to protect, only the tuth!Calling all decent soldiers of the Philippines!We need your help, your resolve, to free us from a bogus leader,a fake gov’t.!Again, if Thailand can do it, we can do it better!!!God help us and our country!
One thing I hate is the nerve of these crooks to belittle and ridicule the poor and unlearned in the Philippines when they do not provide them with their needs as supposedly guaranteed by the Philippine Constitution. Ang hilig pang manggaggo ng mga gago naman din!!!
I don’t know with the the 1987 Philippine Constitution but as a child, I remember being made to memorize and recite the Preamble of the Philippine Constitution enforced in 1946 that guaranteed basic rights and freedoms, even the freedom from want, education, and the pursuit to life and happiness.
I did not realize then, however, that education should be made compulsory and free. I only was made aware of such when I studied in the USA, UK and finally settled in Japan, where parents can be fined and jailed if they do not send their children to school for there is no reason why they should not. There is a budget set aside to pay for educational welfare for indigent children till they finish the 9th grade. Education is compulsory from 1st to 9th grade. Two years of kindergarten are also available but not compulsory.
It is for this reason in fact why there is no illiterate Japanese, and why literacy rate is high. I wonder why they have not thought of this or continuing the tradition set up by the Americans in educating the natives of the Philippines. Gusto nila puro mangmang ang mga pilipino para madaling mauto!
The news on the the 10 to 14 years old kids working in factories is surely shocking. It’s called “Child Slavery,” something like a “Back to the Future”! Parang bumalik sa middle ages ang Pilipinas imbes na umunlad.
No wonder school buildings for instance built with donations from Japan, etc. in Leyte by GK are empty! The supposed students are nowhere to be found. It is because they are in factories being slaved there with the consent of the DoLE! Kakagigil! 😡
I don’t understand one hating people belittling and ridiculing the poor but does the same to others who differ from his or her opinion. Do you guys see the difference? To me, it’s the same. When you belittle and ridicule other people who happen to differ or contradict your opinion…yes, even in discussion groups like this, you’re no different from one who hates the poor and the unlearned.
as i have said here before, there are a lot of things one cannot learn in school.it does not really matter which school or university one went, in the end it is how your personality is shaped which is important.our childhood shape our character when we become adult.it is not so stupid when others say hindi kasi tinuturuan ng magulang.i am not ashamed to say that i came from a poor but honest family where all in a family of 10 children are university educated from the sweat of my parents.we were all grilled in the virtues of honesty and responsibility.hate create bitternes and is therefore not so healthy.
Norpil,
You say that “i am not ashamed to say that i came from a poor but honest family where all in a family of 10 children are university educated from the sweat of my parents.we were all grilled in the virtues of honesty and responsibility…” This is the true meaning of “de buena familia.” Your parents contributed to the upliftment of Philippine society by putting you all through school, and taught the “the virtues of honesty and responsibility…” Sadly, the definition of “de buena familia” has been characterized by money, which should NOT be the case. Something money CANNOT buy is “the virtues of honesty and responsibility.” Great comments!
Norpil,
Great comments! You say that “i am not ashamed to say that i came from a poor but honest family where all in a family of 10 children are university educated from the sweat of my parents.we were all grilled in the virtues of honesty and responsibility…” This is the true meaning of “de buena familia.” Your parents contributed to the upliftment of Philippine society by putting you all through school, and by teaching you and your siblings “the virtues of honesty and responsibility…”
Sadly, today, the definition of “de buena familia” in our country has been characterized by money, and has been associated with money. This is SO WRONG! One thing is certain, money CANNOT buy “the virtues of honesty and responsibility.”
As an example, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and Jose Miguel Arroyo: Undoubtedly, they have so much money, but they definitely DO NOT HAVE INTEGRITY. And no matter how much money they pour into improving their image, it doesn’t work.
thanks chabeli for your kind comment, but i think my parents are not the exception but the rule at that time.my parents are both dead now and i am soon retirable so that one may say that those were the times.but i believe that even today most filipinos teach their children to be honest and responsible for who would like their children to be dishonest and irresponsible?problem is that we have been unlucky in our choices of leaders and sometimes a nation is judged wrongly thru its leaders.i would rather say that gma and her cohorts are the exceptions not the rule.they are bad and most filipinos still cling to their ideals of honesty and responsibility.
at first, we, the families of the detained soldiers were trying to figure our what move to make para sa laban na to…peru personaly i felt na hindi pa yun ang right time kasi nasa PTI palang…i believe pa kasi sa military justice system nun, but now that gen esperon is abusing his power, tingin ko its the right time na to raise our voice and speak our heart out. peru we dont know where to start eh, i dont feel safe anymore to anybody, honestly, kasi hindi na namin alam kung sino ang toong kakampi and makikinig sa hinaing namin… before i wanted to submit myself to human rights, peru hindi ko alam sino lalapitan namin and if ang malapitan ay RIGHT HUMAN..you cant blame us na matakot kasi nasa kamay nila ang mga asawa namin, pwede nilang gipitin na hindi malalaman ng public, pwede sila mag recommend ng basta life sentence or kung ano mang parusa na hindi nila susundin ang court marshal recomendation like what they did sa PTI recomendtion… pwede un kasi nga diba esperon is proclaming his power!!!!! honestly guys, hindi na namin alam ang gagawin namin… who will help us? how will we know the right person?
Military Wife,
In my own little way, my suggestion to your questions as to “who will help us? how will we know the right person?”, is to first pray and ask for guidance and discernment. Guidance, so that you will be lead to those who can help you and those in the same situation as yours. Discernment, so that you will be able to tell those who are REAL and mean WELL from those who may only take advantage. Hold firm and TRUST in God.
Although, I know it is easier said than done, but, this is only my humble opinion. I hope it helps. In the meantime, I continue to pray for you and those who are in the same predicament as you.
If it’s any consolation, Military Wife, your husband, as well as the other soldiers who have been unjustly detained are heroes in many people’s eyes.
Military wife:
Pls. read my comments above (http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=668#comment-40788). I’m sure it’s gonna help. I will also suggest you contact Sen. Pia Cayetano-Sebastian’s office for help. She used to be with Gabriela and deeply involved in women’s movements. As senator, she wields enough influence that can accelerate the usual slow pace in the flow of things, that will help you jumpstart your group, and more importantly, she has a P200M pork barrel to boot (although iniipit ngayon ni Andaya).
TongueT, e ano ba kung ipitin ni Andaya. There are many ways to raise funds for a cause. Di mag-bazaar sila. The wives can do a lot if they band together. Ang problema, someone knowledgeable of networking should be there to support them.
You said it. GABRIELA has the experience. In fact, Nicole, the rape victim has a lawyer coming from their group, which is likewise supported by a lot of NGOs overseas including the groups we network with in Japan. Tignan natin kundi mabuwag ang mga pekeng networking ni Bansot and her oppressive minions.
proper coverage by the media i suppose will also help the incarcerated military personnel.agree with ystakei that the wives must band together and networking is one of her specialties.gabriela is a world renowned women’s group and could help in internationalising the wives predicaments.
guys, thank you very much for such an encouranging advice:) we are holding on to GODS protection and guidance right now, most of the time though i do crushed to the grounds, i cant help it… its just so painful to bear kasi seeing my husbands patrriotism and idealism vanished just like this, sayang kasi eh. ok lang sana if alam kong involved sya, peru i can say head up na hindi, he was not even there in the camp during the said feb coup, he was with us kasi naka passess sya… he just belong to the roster of rangers kaya na implicate sya. anyway, its my first time to hear about gabriela, what is it? some sort of organization? how can i reach gabriela as well? media is the perfect tool ngayon, doy you know guys na nag media block out sa afp? they were just exposing the voice of esperon…havnt you noticed it? media cant go there sa tanay and talk to the detainees, thats violation of the freedom of expression under article 3 ng constitution. im asking media people to dig out more about the issue.
military wife,
what is going on right this moment is the sorting out of good men from rotten ones. i believe that our good soldiers are forming themselves waiting for an opportune time to launch the formal salvo that will wipe out the likes of asoperon and his termite queen and piggy king.
nabanggit ko na sa isa kong post na mas mabuting magsamasama kayong mga maybahay ng mga nakadetineng opisyal at kawal upang lalong maging malakas ang inyong tinig sa sabay sabay at solidong na paghahain ng karaingan.
..solidong paghahain ng karaingan.
Military Wife,
You may wish to also try Amnesty International. It’s an organization that campaigns for Human Rights around the world. You may check out their website at http://www.amnesty.org
Another interesting website to go would be Human Rights First at http://www.humanrightsfirst.org
Hope these 2 websites would be able to help you and your group, Military Wife.
Military Wife, to add to what others have recommended, you may try to go over 2 websites, also. They may be able to assist you and your group:
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org
http://www.amnesty.org
Hope these help!
yes we will…. we are gathering pieces of stones as of the moment…..
Tongue Twisted, do you have Pia
Cayetano’s email and tel nnumber? I am out of the country and do not have access of a lot of important information in the Philippines. Thanks
Military wife, I salute you for your conviction. That is why you are a rank higher than your husband, as the saying goes. If I get some more info from the international front I will give the info to Ellen. I can not openly give everything on this blog as you know, we are not the only ones reading these. THOSE IN POWER ARE TOO!
Military Wife,
Just a thought…Because of your and your group’s sensitive position, I feel that you would all be better off approaching international organizations muna, because they are politically impartial, & can protect themselves more than those based here. As many have come to know, the ENEMY is in the Philippines, this is their home turf, and they have spies ALL OVER. Please take that also into consideration.
military wife,
why not approach CHR chair quisumbing? she could be of help.
thank u so much for that link, i already sent a letter to thier international secretariat, hoping to receive a kind reply from them… i dont feel comfortable approaching local human rights,i wanted people who can help us na walang political interest…thank you so much
Military wife, it might be a good idea to make it a point to be in contact with the other wives of the accused officers. This way you can act in unity and you can share info with one another. It may be difficult for those who do not have internet connections. But there are internet cafes all over the city. Just do not exchange strategies over the internet because as you know, the brigades who can afford to buy better systems can strike you down. But all the gereral information can be shared like we do here. And also, it is okay to contact local organizations and influential people. Not all of them are for this current administration. Some of them( be very careful because some of them are masked) are truly for the oppressed like you.
military wife: about gabriela- you can search at google.com under gabriela philippines.
update on court martial of 30 officers:
Solcom chief to chair
trial of 30 ‘plotters’
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ARMED Forces chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon has appointed Southern Luzon Command chief Lt. Gen. Alexander Yano president of the general court martial that will try 30 Army and Marine officers linked to failed coup last February.
Esperon said he appointed Yano, a member of the Philippine Military Academy class of 1976, to head General Court Martial No. 2 because of the officer’s outstanding reputation and sense of fairness.
General Court Martial No. 1 trying dozens of junior officers involved in the short-lived July 2003 Oakwood mutiny that was mounted by officers who were protesting alleged rampant graft and corruption in the military.
Esperon said he chose Yano because he is senior to the highest ranking accused, former Marines commandant Maj. Gen. Renato Miranda, who was Esperon’s classmate in the PMA class of 1974.
Told that Miranda is from the PMA class 1974 and he has more years in the service, Esperon said, “Rank is all that is required, regardless of their source or year of commission.”
“Second is, of course, the reputation of General Yano for even-mindedness, fairness and sense of justice,” said Esperon.
Before he assumed as Solcom chief early this year, Yano was commander of the Army’s 2nd Infantry Division. Before that, he served as Army chief of staff and commander of the AFP Civil Relations Service and concurrent spokesman.
Esperon named Col. Marian Alledo as the court’s law member. The other members of the court are Rear Adm. Emilio Marayag; Commodore Fortunato Sagudo Jr., Brig. Gen. Raul Caballes, and Brig. Gen. Salvador Collantes.
Miranda and his companions are facing charges ranging from violations of the Articles of War (AW) 67 or mutiny; of AW 63 or disrespect towards the President, Vice President and Secretary of National Defense; of AW 65 or willfully disobeying a superior officer; of 96 or conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman and of AW 97 or conduct prejudicial to good order and military discipline.
Apart from Miranda, the other prominent officers who are going to be tried by the Yano court are former First Scout Ranger Regiment chief Brig. Gen. Danilo Lim and Medal of Valor awardees Col. Ariel Querubin and Lt. Col. Custodio Parcon.
Yano said the court may be convened in a few days.
“We have not assembled yet the members. Maybe within the week, we will assemble all the members,” he said.
He said it was only yesterday that he got the names of the other members. – Victor Reyes