Yesterday (Sept. 27, 2006) the US district Court in Wisconsin held a hearing on the petition of former Agriculture Undersecretary Jocelyn “Jocjoc” Bolante for bail. Strange, his lawyers mentioned a suspected quid pro quo for the acquittal of US servicemen suspected of raping a Filipina , known in media as “Nicole” in Subic.
Anyway, the court denied Bolante’s bail petition.
US immigration officials denied the petition for the temporary release of former agriculture undersecretary Jocelyn “Joc-joc” Bolante, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau reported Wednesday.
The report said that Bolante’s lawyers are now trying to bail out ex-agriculture official by strengthening the petition for habeas corpus filed before the US district court in Wisconsin.
The US attorney’s office, meanwhile, has moved to deny the petition. Government lawyers argued that as an arriving alien without a valid visa, Bolante’s detention is lawful.
During a status hearing on September 20, the US attorney agreed to ask the field office director of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement whether or not the agency is willing to release Bolante on bond.
On Tuesday (Wednesday in Manila) the court was told that the immigration officer was not willing to set bail.
Related reports earlier said Bolante’s petition only questioned the legality of the revocation of his US tourist visa and not the validity of his detention.
Harry Roque, a University of the Philippines law professor monitoring the case, said that Bolante’s legal counsels were left with only two options after the court decided to junk his petition for bail.
Roque said that Bolante could choose either to be deported immediately to the Philippines or remain in detention.
He added that Bolante’s lawyers could face contempt for saying on record that the case might be used as a trade-off with the Subic rape case in Manila.
Bolante was arrested on July 7 at the Los Angeles International Airport after arriving from Seoul, South Korea due to a canceled B1/B2 visa. He is detained at the Kenosha County Detention center in Wisconsin.
Bolante was tagged as the mastermind of the P728-million fertilizer fund allegedly diverted to the campaign kitty of President Arroyo in 2004. The scandal is now pending investigation before the Senate food and agriculture committee.
There must be truth to “Nicole’s” claim that the public prosecutors assigned to her case have been discussing that “exchange” thing….Gongongzales must have dipped his hand into these….again! So with his boss, the pygmy by the Pasig who has pygmied the Laws of the Land to suit her whims.
Headline in the making: “Nicole Traded For 4 US Marines”
Nicole is the ace of glue and the fatso to avoid the deportation of bolate to the Philippines. If the rumour turns out to be true, Nicole was made to be the sacrificial lamb of the evil couple.
Parang exchange ng prisoner of war(P.O.W.). Lutong makaw!
taipan88…is she a pygmy pot-bellied pig with a an elephant hubby?…hehehe
I believe news only in Tribune and Malaya. Otherwise, I consider the rest as mere publicity stunts paid with public funds!
This Nicole deal is BS for I doubt if the US will try to jeopardize US interest on 4 horny shitting soldiers who are not even high-ranked officials, and not on mission when they did the crime of raping this young Filipino lass, who may be apt to looking for a US boyfriend like her sister’s, but these soldiers were on a furlough apt to have fun with some wannabe prostitutes as they have claimed they thought Nicole was, and more reason why the US government will not dare make a deal with the corrupt Philippine government to keep this high profile criminal in the US without due process in exchange for the freedom of these wannabe US rapists, meaning deportation and/or prison term in the US for Bolate, who will eventually be deported to the Philippines after serving his term in jail if convicted for some other crime like money laundering, etc. Surely, when that time comes, the US will make sure that he is put on a direct flight to the Philippines, and no other country will accept him with “Deported” stamped on his passport!
At least, we know now that the US government is doing things according to the rule of law, and more reason for real concerned Filipinos to support the likes of Atty. Roque and Senator Magsaysay who are doing their best to help justice and truth to prevail and perhaps the return of the rule of law in the Philippines.
I have actually interpreted for similar cases in Japan, and in countries where there is rule of law as in Japan and the US, it is impossible for wannabe criminals to be given any consideration but be deported and tagged as an undesirable alien.
Why is it so hard for some people to believe that the US can do anything to protect their own interest? Even if that means letting go a criminal in exchange for saving their own in a foreign land? Time and again, history tells us that the US knows how to bend their rules and laws to accomodate even her enemies if her greatest interest is at stake. Aren’t some of her best friends today her enemies in the past? How’s Japan and the US today?
suiting the whims of the tiyanak of malakanyang? whatever would please her master, george bush this devil woman can sacrifice even the whole philippines.
Mrivera:
On the contrary, George Bush does not trust the pygmy! A friend has told me of instruction by Pentagon to have all equipments brought to the Philippines for the Balikatan exercise to be accounted for after every exercise.
It is why Gloria cannot get an appointment that easily with Dubya and why Romulo was sacked. Kaya sinong may sabing gusto iyan ni Bush? Para utuin OK, but Bush knows that this pygmy is no uto-uto kundi manloloko! Di maglokohan silang dalawang lunatic. Tama?
It’s always been a policy of the United States of American never to negotiate with terrorists or criminals. We don’t know it yet but, if I’m not mistaken, USA considered illegitimate Gloria as exactly that, illegitimate, criminal and a terrorist. Illegitimate Gloria has been terrorizing the Pilipinos since she overthrew President Estrada. Then, governing the Philippines with criminal intent, to deceive and hide all her crimes under the protection of Malacanang, the People’s House. As mentioned in the talking point, Bolante’s lawyer, perhaps not in so many words, is using such rumor of negotiation to technically get a full pardon for Bolate. Obviously, Bolate is quite desperate with his new found home in which he has not accustomed to in comparison to the lifestyle he used to enjoy. It took a USA rule of law for some of us to realize to the reality that other countries actually respect and enforce their own laws as written. A lesson to be learned!
The 4 accused US servicemen will not be punished (won’t be found guilty either) without the JocJoc affair.
The US would trade them with equipment and a few other defence paraphernalia.
That was my contention then and it seems the americans have double upper hand today thanks to JocJoc.
We call that geop-militics!
It’s of my belief, the 4 accused may not get what they deserved only because the Philippines judicial system are incompetent, and not because the USA is dictating. Can’t blame others for Philippines govt. incapability to prosecute the 4 accused in accordance to the evidences provided in court. Philippines judicial system is just too unfit as an institution, it has been proven. President Estrada, a president of the Philippines yet, how long it’s been going on? Right! Philippines is sovereign nation which is something to keep in mind.
JocJoc Bolate is in the custody of the USA, and everyone are watching. I’m confidence bolate’s case will be in accordance as the law requires under the USA law. It’s already happening, as we all know, Bolate since 7/7/06 upon entering USA was grabbed by the authority and detained like a common criminal that Bolate is. He got it coming for him, and not bit sorry. To date, Bolate still being held without bail, that’s fact. I trust, Bolate will not be used for bargaining for the release of the 4 accused of rape. And I believe the USA will take the high moral ground in this case and will let the ax fall where it will. Will the Philippines do the same?
I feel sorry for Filipino victims of US soldiers’ atrocities even before the US bases were buried by asses from Mt. Pinatubo that forced the US to give up fighting against then decision of the Philippine Congress and Senate to scrap the bases. Even when it is possible for erring US servicemen to be punished for offenses committed against the law of their host countries, I cannot understand why Filipinos themselves would say that they cannot be prosecuted and not insist on having them prosecuted the way for example Japanese courts punish them when they err, or break Japanese laws and even when they commit their crimes inside the US bases in Japan as in the cases that I interpreted for ranging from rape to drug trafficking.
If the Japanese can do it, why cannot the Filipinos do the same? Ganoon ba katakot ang mga pilipino sa mga kano? Matapang lang ba ang ang mga pilipinong dumaldal!
Lalo na ang mga kalalakihan, saan na napunta ang mga bayag? Puro na lang ba bayaran? Ngek! Pwe! Kaya ngayon hanggang Super Atsay/Atsoy at Super Taputo/Taputa na lang ba sila? Kawawang Pilipinas! Lalong nabulok dahil kay Pandak! Nakakaiyak! 😡
Taipan88,
Kahit na ba i-suggest ng mga gagong abogado noong mga kano ang ganoon, kung ayaw ng korte ng Pilipinas, walang magagawa! Kagaguhan ang pinagsasabi ng mga ungas na iyan na puro dolyar ang nakikita at hindi iyong kapakanan at kahihiyan ng bansa at mga kababayan nila.
Bakit ba dito sa Japan nako-convict ang mga iyan, sa Pilipinas pa? Sobra nang kagaguhan iyan na nagpapauto sa mga kano, kayo tuloy hindi maigalang! Puede ba!
Isang kasong nahandle ko, nabigyan ng 15 years ang kano at pinagbayad ng malaking multa sa panggagahasa ng isang haponesa. May US base pa dito ha. Court hearing done in a Japanese court, and I interpreted. Kaya bakit hindi puedeng gawin iyan sa Pilipinas. Dito kasi abogado ng kano na court appointed ay fair lang at sinasabihan ang mga kliyente nilang magsabi ng totoo, hindi tinuturuang magsinungaling. Sa pulis pa lang nakukuhanan na ng statement. Nakatingin lang ang mga legal adviser ng base o kung civilian naman ay legal adviser na galing sa embassy at ang layunin lang ay to make sure that their rights are protected. Pero malaki ang tiwala ng mga kano sa palakad ng hustisya dito. Bakit hindi iyan magaya sa Pilipinas?
Pambihira naman! Dahil ba kasi iyong mga marurunong ay sinisipa palabas ng bansa at ang mga inilalagay sa puwesto ay mga bobo at wala namang ilalabas talaga kundi mangikil lang? Kunsumisyon! Nakakahiya!
BTW, ingat kayo kasi I got a note supposedly coming from Minguita Padilla (?) and it was viral. Buti na lang I don’t open exe. files, and I always check first the library of Norton, MacAffee and Trend to check on the file, and boy Trojan ang ipinadalang mplay.exe. (made in the Philippines) pa yata. Buti na lang updated ang aking virus buster. Ingat kayo. Salbahe ang mga kalaban natin sa adhikaing ito. May communication center pa iyan sa totoo lang paid with public and private funds (donations from jueteng lords, private individuals, and yes, even OFWs)!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
That other Gonzales, the U.S. Attorney General (not Raul, but Alberto) may have something up his sleeves. The families of the accused soldiers in “Nicole Case” may also be pressuring their politicians to help their own, and now they are holding a ‘bargaining chip’. Speculation it maybe, but if the U.S. had no hesitation sending a Canadian Citizen to Syria (Mahir Arar), where he will be tortured for informations they need which by law the U.S. can not do themselves, then it is not beyond possibilities that The Bolante case may unravel as one to serve their own interest.
In Ms Nicole case, the United States Armed Forces in the Philippines are guest of the host country, according to the agreement, the supposedly and exercise between two countries, a no limitation military exercise. The Philippines, if possesses some credibiliy, perhaps illegitimate Gloria Arroyo should remind the USA about the Philippines laws in which applies to all in the Philippines, including the 4 accused of rape. But, ain’t going to happen, simply because of the corrupt system. Nothing is above board, everything being done behind the scene when no one is looking. It’s an acceptable standard like a decease hard to do away without.
Illegitimate Gloria doesn’t treat the citizens as human being with rights, yet commodities that can be sold and bought for a price, e.g. OFW’s. That’s illlegitimate that we know too well.
Vic,
Over here dumadating pa ang mga pamilya, et al ng mga accused, nag-a-appeal, pero nothing doing. Mismong US Embassy pinagsasabihan silang huwag gagawa ng kalokohan because the Japanese court will not be too lenient. Natoto silang makibagay.
Namputcha naman, bakit pilipino ang makikibagay sa mga kanong iyan sa loob ng Pilipinas at hindi sila turuang ma-discipline. Tangna ang trato sa mga pilipino, alipin pa rin!!! Puede ba!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA ANG MGA HINAYUPAK NA MGA BOBONG IYAN!
Anna, at least for this time you share my opinion about the US and not your comadre. The US doesn’t negotiate with terrorists and criminals? Tell it to the four Marines, Toney. Noriega was a big time drug dealer but the US took care of him for 20 years. Bin Laden was once a US ally, Al Qaeda being a CIA creation. I can mention more but the fact remains that for the US, there are no permanent friends and enemies, only their permanent interests.
How about Abu Sayyaf? Sabi ni Gloria Pandaka, Isang bala lang kayo. What now?
Abu Sayyaf: The CIA’s Monster Gone Berserk
The Philippines is under watch by America’s “anti-terrorism” network. This is so not only because of the presence of active Moro and Marxist guerrillas but also because of its special concern on the Abu Sayyaf. In the ‘80s, just as it was waging its last surrogate wars against the Soviet Union, the U.S. was also engaged in new forms of covert operations — the training of Islamic militants to fight the Russians in Afghanistan and elsewhere. A product of this war – the Abu Sayyaf – was once hailed by American presidents as a group of “freedom fighters.” It was an exaltation that would haunt them for years.
To those who have been following the Abu Sayyaf’s exploits, the offer of military assistance by the United States government in tracking down the extremists in Mindanao (southern Philippines) has sent a chilling effect particularly among the patriotic sectors.
Related to this, similar concerns have been raised as to why despite government’s “total war” policy on the small group of bandits – whose hostage-taking spree is a purely police matter – not one of its active ringleaders has been caught. Previous suspicions that the Abu Sayyaf enjoys the protection of some top Armed Forces officials have surfaced again.
In a surprise operation last May 27, Abu Sayyaf gunmen kidnapped three Americans and 17 Filipinos from the world-class Dos Palmas resort just off Arracellis in Palawan. It was not immediately known where the new hostages were taken but the gunmen reportedly operate from the southernmost islands of Sulu, Basilan and Tawi-Tawi.
Abu Sayyaf spokesman Abu Sabaya on Saturday said they also took 10 fishermen hostage on their way to Basilan. The kidnapping was pulled off just barely two months after their last hostage – American Jeffrey Schilling – was freed after nine months of captivity.
In declaring a “no ransom, no negotiations” policy to the Abu Sayyaf, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo ordered military assaults on the group’s suspected lairs and offered a P100 million (US$2 million) reward on the ring leaders’ capture, dead or alive.
Meeting Arroyo in Malacañang on May 30, U.S. Rep. Robert Underwood offered military assistance to the Philippine government’s pursuit operations against the Abu Sayyaf. Underwood, who was accompanied in his visit by U.S. Charge D’Affaires Michael Malinowski, is a member of the powerful House Armed Services Committee and was in the country to explore how military relations between the two countries can be enhanced. Malinowski had earlier pledged continued American military support to the Arroyo administration.
On the same day, U.S. State Department spokesman Phil Reeker demanded the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages, particularly Americans Guillermo Sobrero and missionary couple Martin and Gracia Burnham. Among the 17 Filipino hostages is construction magnate Reghis Romero, said to be the front man of former Estrada crony Mark Jimenez in the purchase of The Manila Times. The latter, who has just been elected Manila congressman, is himself wanted by U.S. authorities.
Warplanes
Since the Dos Palmas abduction, at least 12 American warplanes had been seen hovering over Puerto Princesa City in Palawan. Then on March 31, two U.S. destroyers – the USS Curts and the USS Wadsworth — and the landing ship USS Rushmore arrived in the country with 1,200 American troops. Philippine armed forces officials squelched speculations of U.S. intervention in the hostage crisis, claiming that the American troops’ presence was in connection with ongoing war games in Palawan and Cavite.
Efforts to downplay reports that U.S. military assistance has indeed come into play in the latest hostage crisis were of no effect, however, when Press Secretary Rigoberto Tiglao himself revealed that military contacts between the two governments are ongoing. The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) – whose agents have been in and out of the country in connection with “terrorist” cases – was also placed on alert. Former Philippine Ambassador to Washington Ernesto Maceda also revealed that in last year’s Sipadan hostage crisis where 20 tourists were held hostage by the Abu Sayyaf, the Americans backed military and police operations through the use of high-powered satellite surveillance equipment.
‘CIA monster’
U.S. military efforts to intervene in the Abu Sayyaf hostage crisis appears to be a turnaround from their reported links to the Mindanao extremists several years ago. In May last year, Senate President Aquilino Pimentel Jr. described the Abu Sayyaf (“Bearer [or Father] of the Sword” in Arabic) as a “CIA monster.”
Abu Sayyaf members, Pimentel said, were initially recruited by the Central Intelligence Agency as mujahideens to fight the U.S. proxy war in Afghanistan in the ‘80s. Before their deployment, they were trained by AFP officers in Sulu, Tawi-Tawi, Basilan and other remote areas in Mindanao. But the arms and funds came from U.S. covert operations connected with the CIA, Pimentel said.
The mujahideens returned to Mindanao after the Afghan war to constitute the core of the Abu Sayyaf, the Senate president added.
In his revelations, Pimentel cited the book, Blowback by Chalmers Johnson. But it was American writer John K. Cooley in his book, Unholy Wars: Afghanistan, American and International Terrorism, who made “the most direct statement regarding the training and funding of the (Abu Sayyaf) by the CIA,” he said. Cooley was the Middle East correspondent for the reputable Christian Science Monitor and ABC News.
In his “Ghosts of the Past” report for ABC News in August last year, Cooley said the Abu Sayyaf, like many “international terrorists,” has its origins in the 1979-89 jihad or “holy war” to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan. Wanting to tie down the Soviets to their own little Vietnam war, the CIA recruited and trained thousands of Islamic militants to support the Afghan resistance against the Soviet invasion forces. The American quarterly Foreign Affairs reported that some 35,000 Muslim militants from 40 countries — including the Philippines — took part in the Afghan jihad. Related historical accounts said among the recruits was Osama bin Laden, now the U.S.’s No. 1 “terrorist enemy.”
‘Freedom Fighters’
“The CIA orchestrated massive arms shipments via Pakistan, including state-of-the-art Stinger surface-to-air missiles,” Cooley said. Three American presidents – Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush — hailed the mujahideens as “freedom fighters,” he said.
The Abu Sayyaf, Cooley said, was the last of the seven Afghan guerrilla groups to be organized late in the war – in 1986 or three years before the Soviets withdrew. It was founded by an Afghan professor named Abdul Rasul Abu Sayyaf. And like Osama bin Laden, the group was financed by Saudi Arabia’s wealthy elite and influenced by Wahabism, an ultra-conservative form of Islam that dates back to the mid-18th century and is espoused by the Saudi royal family.
“Some of the original veterans of the Afghan jihad, and their sons and grandsons and those trained by them, have been operating with destructive effect since the 1980s from Egypt and the Philippines to Algeria and New York,” Cooley wrote.
With the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989, the CIA’s powerful Pakistani partner, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), lost control of the Afghan fighting groups. The Abu Sayyaf had established a training camp north of Peshawar, Pakistan, “to train terrorists in the methods taught by the CIA and ISI,” Cooley reported. Some 20,000 volunteers were trained in the “Peshawar university” to “look for other wars to fight” including in the Middle East, North Africa, New York and the Philippines.
The Abu Sayyaf moved its operations to the Philippines ostensibly to support the war for a separate Islamic state. Emerging from these operations were two leaders – the brothers Abdurajak Janjalani, who was an Afghan war veteran, and Khaddafi Janjalani.
Early Operations
In a privilege speech in July last year, Pimentel named former Interior Secretary Rafael Alunan and then Southern Command chief Maj. Gen. Guillermo Ruiz as knowing about the group’s early operations in Mindanao. He also asked the Senate to summon former President Fidel V. Ramos and ex-Defense Secretary Renato de Villa to shed light on the matter.
Pimentel also cited revelations by a police asset, Edwin Angeles, who has since died mysteriously, that the military equipped the Abu Sayyaf with vehicles, mortars and assorted firearms for its raid of Ipil in April 1995. In the raid – the group’s first large-scale action – 70 people died while 50 teachers and schoolchildren were kidnapped.
Following its “split” with the MNLF in 1991, the Abu Sayyaf resorted to illegal logging, kidnapping, bombing, looting, burning, killing and other criminal activities for its logistics and operations. So far, they have kidnapped at least 32 foreigners, including five Americans, Europeans and Asians. This does not included hundreds of other Filipino hostages, a number of whom were Catholic and Protestant priests and nuns. Some of them, including priests, were killed.
The metamorphosis of the Abu Sayyaf from “freedom fighters” in Afghanistan to sheer bandits in the Philippines is a new dark spot in the U.S.’s covert dirty tricks operations throughout the world. The CIA has created not just one Frankenstein’s monster in the mold of the Abu Sayyaf but hundreds of others who are now wreaking havoc in other parts of the world – including right in the belly of the United States itself.
But in war and in modern “counter-terrorism warfare” – which the U.S. now is eager to wage in the Philippines – there is at least one advantage that can be drawn. The anti-Soviet Afghan “resistance movement” promoted the U.S. arms industry. The U.S. may as well be doing the same thing as it embarks on a new crusade to destroy one of the “monsters” it created. By EDMUNDO SANTUARIO III, BULATLAT.COM
“that for the US, there are no permanent friends and enemies, only their permanent interests.”
That I will agree with wholeheartedly; without exception all western powers are the same; Japan might be the exception among foreign powers today because they maintain on the whole, good relationship with virtually every nation without a shadow of doubt, well, until Kozumi that is (don’t know how the new one will shape foreign policy – they say he’s for the re-armament of Japan) because Japan, like Germany are weighed down by a moral clause: anti-war!
It’s debatable whether the CIA really created Bin Laden. There had been links as usual with the underground Saudi Arabia movement (apparently, Bin Laden had supplied some intelligence on the Saudi family but I’m not sure how far the relationship with the Americans went!)
But I do know that Taleban was supported by the US when the Afghans were trying to oust the Soviets but when the Soviets were ousted, the Talebans “rejected” alliance with the US by imposing their harsh regime. The US were surprised at the turnaround. Meanwhile, France was supporting the Northern Alliance faction all througout the Soviet-Afghanistan war. The Northern Alliance which was the enemy of the Talebans started to fight it out. France provided the US with intelligence reports supplied by the Northern Alliance that Al Qaeda anti-US operations were supported by the Talebans; the Lion of Peshwar, the Northern Alliance chief even went to the US to tell them but the US didn’t believe or were sceptical – the day before 9/11, the Lion of Peshwar was assasinated by Taleban-Al Qaeda operatives.
Only then did the US seriously looked into the intelligence reports.
The US (with Northern Alliance help financed by the French) finally bombed out the Talebans from Kabul but couldn’t hack it because of the Iraq dilemma – US forces stretched – the US asked NATO to take over “mopping up operations”. France acquiesced – there were infightings in NATO at that time because US was badmouthing the French for not supporting them in the invasion of Iraq. NATO decisions are supposed to be unanimous decisions; had France vetoed, NATO could not have gone and the US would have been lone, lonely, devastated force in Afghanistan.
The Philippines must be on the lookout:
Secretary Cruz is going to ram an RP-Australia treaty into the throats of unsuspecting Pinas.
The treaty, according to Cruz himself will be patterned after NATO/SOFA and if so, it would mean that Australian forces will be able to station forces in the Philippines with some kind of military base.
If so, the stationing of foreign troops in the Philippines is supposed to be unconstitutional.
It is imperative for people to read about SOFA and be prepared to challenge the treaty! (RP-US VFA is a kiddie contract compared to an RP-AUSTRALIA, NATO/SOFA based treaty.)
France informed the Philippines even before during Erap’s time that Filipino muslims were being trained in Afghanistan but along the Taleban lines (not Northern Alliance which is French supported).
France provided lots of pertinent details to the Philippine government about the “bandits” even before the Abu Sayyaff. I know that Lacson was handed some of the inputs (as Police chief).
Re: RP-Australia treaty
If it’s a treaty, then it needs a senate approval or confirmation. There’s a constitutional ban on foreign military bases in the Philippines.
Personally, I no longer care what happens to this man with a feminine name. Since he has only 2 options, i.e. rot in jail or prefer to be deported back to the Philippines, I suggest he choose the latter. Gloria’s henchmen can always give him protection from being arrested by an outmanuevered Senate ala Virgilio Garcillano. So what is he so afraid of?
Welcome back Mr. Bolante to BASTUSAN COUNTRY!
You’re right, Bystander. Bolate should rot in US jail (I prefer to see him languishing in Guantanamo), where he rightfully belongs. His remains should be used to fertilize the barren fields in RP. Or, maybe he should be deported to the Philippines to answer for his sins.
Problem with the second option is that, he may disappear from view again, knowing how the DFA and the Immigration officials cuddled him before. Unless Magsaysay will meet him at the airport and cuff him right there before Bolate ever gets to the Immigration section.
Bolate (this is intentional, you know what I mean) is in league with that other notorious guy, Garci, who freely roams the country (or even gets out of it unnoticed by anyone, not even by those stupid and paid lackeys in the immigration). Put GMA in their company and you will have a picture of the kind of country where they live – BASTOS REPUBLIC (first cousin of BANANA REPUBLIC?). I shiver down to my bone marrow thinking of this stigma that attaches to the skin of all Filipinos. All right-minded Pinoys should do something to get rid of these guys before it is too late.
Even if the 4 Americans got convicted, they wouldn’t serve their prison sentence in the Philippines. America wouldn’t allow it.
The 4 guys might not be important in the eyes of the US government but they are members of the US military and the US military would do their utmost best so they’d serve their sentence if they are found guilty in a US military prison.
I don’t know if they would trade Joc Joc, not sure, or what but US interest in these 4 represents American military prestige.
If the “rape” had happened in America, those guys would be sitting duck today – they could risk conviction but US-RP relationship is so very unlike US-Japan relationship.
I would have opted for the case to have been conducted by American military investigators – a suggestion I made from the onset (and published by Ducky Paredes) and for the trial to have been held on a US ship but on our seas. Nicole would have had a fairer trial because I know US military justice, they are a lot more fair than our current Gloria and Gonzales judiciary could ever be – in other words, the US military prosecutor would have taken Nicole’s side come hell or high water!
The other factor that plays greatly in the favor of the 4 accused Americans is our own judiciary’s bias against our very own compatriot, the victim, the plaintiff. By showing our hand in such bias fashion, the goose was half cooked so to speak. How can you respect a nation whose own government puts very little value on the dignity of its own people?
America do not and will not see us on the same footing as they do Japan. They respect Japan but they do not respect us. They are our allies because of our nation’s strategic position in the region (for their needs.) They cannot trust our nearby neigbours as much to accord them the same subservient treatment that we give them.
Few western powers have genuine respect for Pinas. This is the honest truth. The UK is perhaps prepared to send Prince Andrew to Pinas but only because UK businessmen have something to sell to Pinas.
Pinas is not respected abroad not because of Filipinos per se but because of our political system, rampant corruption and incredibly poor governance. Because of that, they find the Philippines a highly unreliable partner.
When you do business with someone, you want that someone to be trustworthy and reliable, unfortunately the same thing is true with country partnerships.
If the prosecution of the US marines will not prosper, it’s not because of inadequacy or incompetence of the Philippine judicial system. Philippine laws are sufficient and on equal footing with any country especially those concerned with heinous crimes. It will be because of lack of interest or to put it bluntly, “more of inferiority complex” of the prosecuting authorities to apply the full force of the laws. Kasi, mga Amerikano sila, and even if hurts, we have to admit the truth that most Filipinos still idolize the Americans, or the white people. They looked at them as if they were the Gods. They are all cowards and they just don’t want to become a winner at the expense of the master.
If we may recall, similar cases have been filed against US servicemen stationed at the US bases before, but I can’t remember any one among those charged served a term here in this country. They can’t afford to displease Uncle Sam, prosecute and put these criminals behind bars. Back-channeling was always the business of the day, and it is possible that is what happening today regarding the Nicole case. By all means, they have to block the return of Bolate, and who is a mere Nicole alongside the Bolate, the man who knew too much, and who can put a doom and gloom in their already shaky hold on the seat of power. Nicole’s case is for them to lose, and if they loss, that is already a given and expected and that will not come as a surprise anymore. And if whispers become louder and real, it’s up to the people and some military men who are untainted to decide and do what they have to do, whatever and however to free the country from the clutches of evil that is Glueria kapit-tuko and Fat Mike Pidal.
ystakei-san says:
“Bakit ba dito sa Japan nako-convict ang mga iyan, sa Pilipinas pa? Sobra nang kagaguhan iyan na nagpapauto sa mga kano, kayo tuloy hindi maigalang! Puede ba! “xxxx
Sa Japan, sinusunod ang Batas. Sa Pinas, sinusunod ang pygmied interpretation of the Law. Ganun yun.
Kung sa asta at salita pa lang ni gonggongzales ang gagawing gauge para malaman ang kalalabasan ng kaso ng Rape kay Nicole, malamang sa wala, talo tayo. Eh sa simula pa lang ng kaso, parang asong ulol na itong si gonggongzales eh! Sabayan mo pa ang mga asong patuloy na nagsisipsip na magka-greencard.
BTW, Kokoro kara kanshashiteimasu. Just lucky to have someone who thinks in the same wavelength….
Not, Anna, when the US servicemen commit a crime outside of the base, and you and I know that there is none in the Philippines and they did their crime on a furlough, meaning out of the uniform. So, as in Japan, they get imprisoned in a non-military prison after being stripped of their military ranks and dishonorably discharged.
This is what is done to US military servicemen in Japan, and I bet similar procedure can apply even under the VFA Agreement that I don’t think is that different from the US-Japan Military Agreement. If not, then the Philippine government should insist on upholding its sovereign right to protect its own citizen, the Filipino victim regardless of claim that she consented to kissing the guy she was being friendly with, but I doubt if she had agreed to be sexually assaulted not by just one but by four horny servicemen, some of whom were prevented from consummating the act because there was the patrol that suddenly came. They could have succeeded even in silencing the girl forever after feasting on her that they likely thought they could as they are likely expecting they can do with the crooks waiting for them to pay them with their dollars!!! Tangna talaga, nakakakulo ng dugo!
Tangna tinatanga na nga ng mga kano na gusto ding tangahin ni Pandak, lalo pang nagpapatanga ang mga pinoy! Utak alipin puede ba tigilan na! Pwe, nakakasuka!
Cory by the sea,
Dou itashimashite. Nice to hear your voice. Let’s make it a date to go on a trip together, and see the changing color of leaves. How about Gotemba?
Hopefully, we can invite Ellen to Japan one of these days, and have her take a dip in a therapeautic spa. I hope the rest of the barkada can join us, too.
You know, Anna, the Bansot is having hallucination that the US is favoring her still, but the way I read Washington, she is far from having an edge now. Medyo busy lang ang mga kano sa sarili nilang problema sa totoo lang. They have a great legal and moral obligation in Iraq as a matter of fact. Bush can be charged in a war tribunal for his crimes, and this is what the Americans are avoiding to happen not really for Bush’s sake but for the image of the USA as champion of freedom and liberty until Bush did a Hitler!!!
Spartan says: “taipan88…is she a pygmy pot-bellied pig with a an elephant hubby?…hehehe “xxxx
How about this:
pygmied piggy with a noose on her nostril and an ogre gordo for a husband. The noose is for hanging her along with the pidal cohorts….
Oink! Arf! baboy na, aso pa! Sama talaga!
Kochira koso…Nice to hear your voice. Time seems to fly when talking with someone who share your thoughts….Thanks a lot, really!
Why not? I’d love to!…
Gotemba in Autumn! Great! Tapos walang katapusang usapan laban sa mga baboy ng Bansa! Hahahahah!!That would really make my day! The only problem is…y’know….Ganko na sofu.
Maybe I can find time away….if only for a day….:)
A hopeless optimist which I am, still I believe that US won’t do any such act on Bolante’s trade-off with Nicole’s case. Let’s hope and pray for a good end to these dramas. It seems like there’s no end to all these telenobelas as long as the present illegal occupant in Malakanyang is still around. After all; she’s the source of all these troubles!
Elvirra:
I have a good friend who is working for the State Department and according to my friend, the crooks in Manila are trying their best not to have Bolate deported home, and would opt for a jailterm for him in the US that is rather impossible because his case is more Immigration related unless the Dugong Aso, the perennial traydor orders her staff to prepare some documents (ebidences in fact) that would put the gago in a great jam like some proofs of big savings in the US under his or some dummies’ names and the Bolate will not be able to deny owning them. Wham! Kulong for money laundering! Now, it will depend on the Bolate if he wants to cover up still for the crooks in Malacanang with a promise that his wife and children will not be touched and can keep whatever assets they have acquired with his association with these crooks for whom he definitely have agreed to steal, etc.
You bet, I don’t believe the Americans would want to be embarrassed getting linked with the now infamous liar and cheat bogus president of the Philippines. At least, we are assured that despite Bush, there is still rule of law in that great land of milk and honey!
Cory by the sea,
If the Ojiisan can still walk, why don’t we take him on a trip to see the changing color of the maple tree leaves?
Oh, how I love those leaves! I bet your Ojiisan will love to see them, too. October and early November will be the best time to take this trip as a matter of fact. Gotemba has an outlet I believe of brandname products I am told. How about doing some shopping there? I need to buy some items to bring home to my Mom and sisters. Home, BTW, is California, USA.
Florry,
Sadly, you are right!
That’s why I said, “The other factor that plays greatly in the favor of the 4 accused Americans is our own judiciary’s (Gonzalez) bias against our very own compatriot, the victim, the plaintiff. By showing our (RP judiciary’s) hand in such biased fashion, the goose was half cooked so to speak. How can you respect a nation whose own government puts very little value on the dignity of its own people (e.g. Nicole)?”
Yuko
“This is what is done to US military servicemen in Japan, and I bet similar procedure can apply even under the VFA Agreement that I don’t think is that different from the US-Japan Military Agreement.”
I don’t know about the US-Japan military agreement but I do know the RP-US VFA, it is lopsided and is protective of US servicemen than of RP servicemen in the same situation (e.g. suspected of committing a crime).
In the case of sovereign rights, RP surrendered a bit of it’s sovereign right in RP-US VFA when it consented (and signed) to allowing the US to have general custody of American servicemen suspected of committing crime in RP.
In Nicole’s case, if ever these guys are convicted, I don’t believe the US will allow them to serve their sentence in the Philippines – not a chance! Anyway, I don’t know if they’d be convicted at all. America doesn’t believe that RP has a fair judiciary.
I do hope am wrong but I am sceptical that these guys would be “punished” in RP!
In terms of foreign support, Japan is the BIGGEST donor in terms of aid to RP surpassing the US and other countries.
It is incredible but no other country today has shown more respect on RP than its erstwhile enemies – Japan does more for RP than US does and doesn’t brag about it like a rooster.
ystakei-san,
That’s Gotemba OUTLET. Been there, too.
I don’t know if he is into the idea. He is ganko na..and makes a lot of fuss whenever he doesn’t get his way on all matters.
IF and when we go out, I’d like to enjoy naman….Let’s see if his ‘other’ apos are willing to take him in, even just for a day. They do that whenever I go to Inang Bayan, and for other trips abroad. Naka-schedule nga lang ang mga yun…but not this one. Let’s see what happens….
Will let you know. Denwa shimasu kara….
Anna,
For all you know there are lots of Japanese descendants in the Philippines especially in Mindanao (Davao) and the Ilocos region (particularly the Mt. Province because of the Kennon Road Construction in the early 20th century.) The Japanese government I guess wants them to stay foot in the Philippines and be useful citizens and hope that the grants given to the Philippines will for good use.
There has been delay in fact in the granting of the loans, and other aids due to the graft and corruption after Cory. Erap did not get a single yen I am told, and the grants that were asked by him are the ones promised JdV when he came here. This is the information we got in fact from the agency in charge of giving such ODA. There is no secret to these deals as far as Japan is concerned. The secret is on how the Philippines make use or no use of them. Datas, fact sheets, etc. are freely provided if you ask for them.
Anna says:”In terms of foreign support, Japan is the BIGGEST donor in terms of aid to RP surpassing the US and other countries.
It is incredible but no other country today has shown more respect on RP than its erstwhile enemies – Japan does more for RP than US does and doesn’t brag about it like a rooster.”xxxx
Amen to that, Missy….
Unannounced are the Scholarships and other Aid from Japan. There’s this Three-year Trainee Program given to Pinoys also. Our Kababayans work here for three years and they are forced to save para may maiuwi sa Inang Bayan later on. I am working for several of these Companies, yet, there is no news whatsoever about them. And there are more Pinoys coming this year… It is a continuing process.
Anna,
The US-Japan Military Agreement was signed in the 60’s and goes through some bits of changes according to the needs of the times especially with the handling of military servicemen committing crimes during their furloughs and when not in uniform, and this has become possible because of public clamor added by media bashing of the military treaty, etc. So, it can be done, but not without a great sacrifice.
I know a lot may officials here even got assassinated when the treaty was undergoing changes to be more favorable to the people of Japan. When I first came here in the late 60’s in fact, I witnessed members of labor and trade unions, student organizations, etc. snakedancing along the streets of Ginza and Kasumigaseki (the seat of government in Tokyo) and being tear-gas bombed by riot squad of the Tokyo Metropolitan Police backed up by policemen from neighboring prefectures (provinces) not really to kill them but control their violent activities, but boy, it surely made me see what Japanese discipline was all about. Kahit na may violence na, maayos pa rin!
Shops just close their windows, doors and blinds, and the customers stay put inside and do their normal shopping, or sipping of teas. No looting, etc. that is common in the Philippines and elsewhere, including the USA.
In short, Anna, it is a matter of commitmetn and determination to do what is right for one’s country and people on the part of those who lead the country. Unfortunately, what they have there in the Philippines as leaders are mostly crooks, robbers and thieves!!!
Kawawang bansa! All the more reason why we should continue to blog here, and shout “Tangna ninyo!” to these bogus leaders leading the country to perdition. Mahirap namam magdasal na masalot ang Pilipinas tapos matitira si Pandak, kasi ginagamit din niya ang mga disaster for making money for her and the family to loot!!!
YUP! Maling bulsa napunta ang pera.
Sa halip na sa Programa para sa Pinoy/Bayan, napunta sa bank accounts ng mga sinungaling na magnanakaw.
Look at Korea: Bakit ang ganda ng lugar nila?
Guees saan galing yung mga yun?
Sa atin? Ni ebidensiya na may dumating na tulong, wala…
nauna nang galawin ng mga mahaderang nasa itaas!
Parang PNRC rin yun, eh….
Noong araw, nagbo-volunteer ako sa PNRC. First Aid, Swimming, Home Nursing nagtuturo kami. Kapag may sunog,
nandun kami para magbigay ng relief goods. Tas, nung tapos na ang distribution, yung pinaka-lider [taga-PNRC] nag-distribute sa amin ng mga paketeng the same as those which we distributed earlier. Naasar talaga ako dun: Hindi ko tinanggap…sabi ko, sa inyo na lang! Nakakalungkot isipin na yung tutulungan mo, mas malaki pa yung paketeng iuuwi ng mga namumuno.
Same is true with the government. MAS MALAKI nga lang ang volume kesa sa taga-RC!
Yuko, Taipan,
Just look at Malaysia where there is also corruption but it is done in such a way that there’s a CEILING in terms of bribery: The corruption money is pumped back into Malaysian industries and there is virtually no flight of capital abroad. The money is RE-INVESTED at home!
You will notice that Malaysia is so far ahead in terms of infrastructures and technology than RP.
In the Philippines, the problem of corruption is it is so widespread from top to the bottom that it’s pure ANARCHY! The worst part is that the corruption money is taken to foreign banks and not re-invested at home.
Capital flight is a blood letting in any nation!
The ceiling in Malaysia hovers from 3 to 5% whereas in PINAS it can go up to more than 100%!!!!
That is pure suicide because for every penny that you use to corrupt, it is the poor people of the country that pays with their blood – health care and education suffer!
That’s why no bona fide big business from Europe would invest in the Philippines: too difficult to make a real penny, unreliable investments and the partners are not trustworthy.
Anna,
As I have stated previously, I have handled cases of US servicemen convicted in Japanese court, and I have interpreted for them during investigations likewise in the police. I make lots of money because I am paid both for written and oral interpretation because they usually ask for English translations of the statements written by Japanese investigators in Japanese, and I make sure to translate them into English to make sure that we can get them to sign the confession that they are told even by legal adviser in the US bases to sign them if they are flawless, and actually what they have given as facts.
The shortest sentence a military serviceman I interpreted for got for drug trafficking was 5 years served in a Japanese prison after which they are deported to the US and dishonorably discharged. Walang patawad.
This is just to show you, dear friend, the mutual respect between the US and Japan with the US-Japan military agreement being called in fact as “U.S. and Japan Mutual Defense Treaty!” Why then can the Filipinos not have such kind if not better treaty with the Americans? Kundi di nila magawa ang gaya ng na-accomplish ng mga hapon, e bobo na nga ang mga tao sa Pilipinas kasi iyong mga matatalino naubos na at nandoon na sa ibang bansa at wala nang pakialam kung anong mangyari sa Pilipinas. Baka dasal pa nga nila, mawala na sana ang Pilipinas sa mapa para makakuha sila ng asylum sa ibang bansa! Unbelievable!
“Kundi di nila magawa ang gaya ng na-accomplish ng mga hapon, e bobo na nga ang mga tao sa Pilipinas kasi iyong mga matatalino naubos na at nandoon na sa ibang bansa at wala nang pakialam kung anong mangyari sa Pilipinas.”
Hahahahah! Yuko, Luis Teodoro might attack you for saying that!
Remember when he attacked me in his column once?
““U.S. and Japan Mutual Defense Treaty!” ”
The RP-US Defence treaty is not really based on mutual respect, so very sad. But it is OUR fault!
Estrada should have refused to sign it because of the US custody caveat.
In fairness to the military at the time, the AFP leadership advised Estrada against it but the political arms (Congress) said to Estrada to go ahead!
Again, re ““Kundi di nila magawa ang gaya ng na-accomplish ng mga hapon, e bobo na nga ang mga tao sa Pilipinas…”
Frankly, I don’t think because the Pinoys have gone bobo but we didn’t care (must say I lobbied against the RP-US VFA then, of course, to no avail).
Political expediencies mattered more at the time (and even today) than national dignity!
I thought it was the Pandak who signed the VFA Agreement (Balikatan) for which Guingona was bashed since he was then the ForSec. I know Erap would not do that because he was a co-signee of the no-US base law in the early 90’s. Dear, paki-check nga ang facts.
Balikatan exercises are part of the VFA terms but the treaty itself was signed before Gloria’s term!
VFA was negotiated, reviewed and realistically “sealed” under Ramos but Ramos term was up before it was approved for signing by Congress…
Balikatan is the name of a military exercise; it could be changed tomorrow…
In other words, Anna, the treaty was negotiated under Ramos, signed by Erap but implemented by the Pandak! Kawawang Erap, naipit!!!
Still, when a treaty being signed by Filipinos that cripple them in fact only shows na mahina ang ulo ng mga pinababayaan ng mga tamad na pirma na lang ng pirma tapos magyayabang na matalino sila!
Kawawang bansa! Nakakaiyak!
Yuko,
For clarity: the VFA was signed by DFA Sec Siason but when he was still officially under Ramos and it was ratified by Congress during Erap’s term, hence it was Erap that approved it, technically that is…
Cory by the Sea,
I know about the trainees, but I understand the MoFA and the Ministry of Justice are cracking their heads to make sure that none of the caregivers and nurses who would be hired and trained for two or three years before they can practice fully in Japan cannot breach their contracts the way other trainees do.
Erap could have refused to endorse it to Congress for ratification but Siason kept on bugging him, heheheh! So, poor Erap endorsed it to Congress for ratification.
Then, of course, bansot had it coz she toppled Erap.
In any case, if Erap had not been toppled, he would have been the executory of the treaty – the result might have been the same, who knows? Wouldn’t have changed a bit for Nicole?
What I don’t know and it wouldn’t be good to guess hazardly on it is if Siason’s Japanese wife had anything to do with it!
Hehehe! Joke only (coz everyone knows that Mr Siazon is a bit ander di saya ni Mrs Siazon!)
At least, Anna, the US Embassy in Manila is adamantly saying that the trial of the 4 horny US soldiers has nothing to do with Bolate. If Nicole does not get a fair trial in the Philippines, she may try the option of filing a complaint in Japan where these servicemen are based unless they are removed back to the USA and/or sue the US government for tolerating these horny soldiers from going berserk overseas! It can be done you know because there are precedents of cases that have happened even in other places and asking for damages from these soldiers is possible as a matter of fact in civil lawsuits even in the USA.
This actually will be a good material for Philippine media people to pursue as a matter of fact that will stir public concern even in the USA versus this kind of violence perpetrated by US servicemen overseas. Kailangan lang nga tatag ng loob.
“Nicole does not get a fair trial in the Philippines, she may try the option of filing a complaint in Japan where these servicemen are based unless they are removed back to the USA and/or sue the US government for tolerating these horny soldiers from going berserk overseas!”
Really?
That is an option indeed!
But US JAGO (Japan based) will have made their own assessment by then and if US military judge advocates say there is no case, how can Nicole re-file in Japan in the event nothing happens here in Pinas?
It will be touch and go and I don’t know if it will work because I’ve read somewhere that US military investigators in Pinas have filed their report to the effect that Nicole’s lawsuit (criminal) is baseless, therefore with that kind of report, Nicole doesn’t stand a chance of getting further attention in Japan.
Knowing a bit of military laws and court martial procedures, am extrapolating, but I really don’t know much more, I may be wrong, utterly wrong…
Anna:
I don’t know how much is the wife’s influence on this treaty, but I know for a fact that Filipinos in Tokyo in general do not like the wife, who is called “Kazuka-zuka” as her name is “Kazuko.” I am not sure if he is really ander de saya, but the image of being a henpeck is used more for expediency as the kind of rumor I’m told was talked about when he was UNIDO Chief in Geneva.
Someone has told me about him charging the UNIDO extra money for his housing that he was able to buy a property there. When questioned about it, I’m told that he reasoned out that the house was owned by his wife, and he was renting the house from her, thus, the amount needed to pay her as rent. I wonder if you have heard of this story since a British journalist in fact wrote about it, and caused Siason to be replaced at UNIDO.
The wife is very civil to me knowing that I am part Japanese, but that is all my contact with this couple.
In case nothing happens (gosh, this is only an IFfy coz we shouldn’t undermine Nicole’s defence lawyers capabilities), Nicole could perhaps sue the US military in Brussels – heh!
“I don’t know how much is the wife’s influence on this treaty,”
No, that was only a joke (in bad taste) of mine. I don’t reckon she had a hand in the treaty at all!
Yeah, heard about that case in Geneva. Gosh, they made a mountain out of a moehill there.
Lots of expats did and do that! Even journalists!
Technically, there was nothing wrong in it. Of course, the moral aspect left to be desired.
There is nothing impossible in Japan, Anna, as long as here are evidences to prove a case, especially when the crime was committed outside of the base, and the 4 horny soldiers did their crime when they were not wearing their uniform, for justice to prevail and be done.
This is what I understand is the rule when we investigate cases involving these servicemen in Japan. There is a military court to try the US servicemen to discharge them dishonorably, and then turned over to the civilian court in Japan. Investigations of the case is left entirely to the Japanese police when a Japanese or foreign civilian is involved. Otherwise, it is a purely US affair, and the Japanese court is not asked to interfere if the involved parties are all US military personnel and dependents.
In the case of Nicole, the only hindrance if any is that the crime did not happen in Japan, but still since the horny soldiers are stationed in Japan, the Japanese court’s assistance may be sought for especially with the assistance of concerned groups, legal and civilian, in Japan. For this reason, concerned lawyers handling her case may just as well study all kinds of possibilities. Sabi nga, “If there is a will, there is a way” especially when the purpose is for justice to prevail and give these horny soldiers their lessons in propriety!
I know Siazon a bit. He’s an alright fellow, kind of distracted though (to my mind)but I’ve met other RP ambassadors who get flustered easily too by details…
Yuko,
“There is a military court to try the US servicemen to discharge them dishonorably, …”
I’m with you there but the fact is US military investigators have already filed a report to JAGO saying, well, this is hearsay of course on my part – haven’t seen report myself, that a crime was not committed so if that’s the case JAGO would be hard put to prosecute them even in Japan.
This should read: There is nothing impossible in Japan, Anna, as long as THERE are evidences to prove a case, especially when the crime was committed outside of the base, and the 4 horny soldiers did their crime when they were not wearing their uniform, for justice to prevail and be done.
I, for one, Anna, is willing to help if needs be, but ONLY WHEN THERE ARE VALID EVIDENCES OF WRONG DONE! But the way, this girl and her mother fight for honor and dignity, I believe her despite the statements given by the Catholic priest, who makes me grateful that I am not a Catholic!!!
One thing sure is that there is strong anti-US bases group in Okinawa. Kaya buti pa wala na lang ibalik ang mga ungas na iyan dito.
I believe Nicole!
Still, Anna, kundi gago ang mga nakaupo sa korte ng Pilipinas, so what if the GAGO (Oops, JAGO) pala has filed a report based on their own investigation! Iyon kasing mga pulis na pinoy ang tamad na gawin ang trabaho nila! Tangna hindi puede iyan sa Japan, especially when a Japanese national is the victim!!!
Tangna, kababayan nila hindi nila kinakampihan? Dito nga kahit puta, kapag ginahasa ng kano, bashed ang kano! Kaya talagang gago na lang talaga ang magtatangkang gumawa ng kagaguhan laban sa isang hapones dito lalo na kapag naubos na ang pasensiya ng mga hapones!
i know it’s off topic but after 70 or so replies ; nary a word , even in passing , of the devastation that hit the capital … sigh
Flirting is not license to be bodily abused – those 4 guys were trained to subdue an opponent, military part and parcel of their beings. The fact that the girl was not sober and had apparently said “NO!” was enough reason for FOUR BIG MEN in physical authority, given their military pledge to protect the weak, to BACK OFF!
Straight and simple!
Nicole suffered physical indignity tantamount to violent physical abuse and that is called rape.
No need to mention about the devastation in the Philippines, Bayonic. Para que? Para mangulekta na naman ng mga abuloy para nakawin na naman ng Tita Bansot mo?
There’s been precedents in the UK of a simple sailor/trooper going the whole hog with a tipsy girl in a pub who was heard to say “no” prior to the act.
The guy was criminally prosecuted by the British military and by civilian courts and PUNISHED accordingly. I know because my husband was court martial panel chair for some time!
You bet, Anna, kahit nga asawa puede nang kasuhan ng rape ngayon iyon pang hindi mo naman kaano-ano, tapos apat bang barako!
To Nicole, ipaglaban mo ang dangal mo. Nasa likod mo kami!
Bayonic,
I personally feel sad about the devastation wrought by this typhoon on RP.
I’ve been burning the wires calling family and friends since 5 am my time …
I do hope government services are up to the task of helping people found in the most horrendous situation following the devastation.
My sincere sympathy with our kababayans…
Same here. Anna. It can be done because there are a number of precedents that can be cited during court hearing. Hinahalang nga lang noong swapang sa dollar na bobo de la yuca na nakaupo as Secretary of InJustice! Tangna ang bobo!
Over here, Anna, generally, for the good of many, people do their best to do even the most impossible. Walang imposible sa totoo lang! Over in the Philippines, pag sa pagnanakaw, mabilis pa sa alas kuwatro, but when it comes to defending the oppressed such as Nicole, ang daming tsetseburetse! Najakakulo ng dugo!
hindi ko Tita yung bansot na yun , Ystakei,
at hindi ako humihingi ng abuloy
kaunting simpatiya lang sana at kaunti ring panalangin at pagaalala sa mga kababayan natin nasalanta … sana sa mga panahong kagaya nito , ipagliban pansamantala ang politika at magbayanihan.
kakantahan na lang kita ….
at mula sa guho tayo ay babangon
pagasa’y bulaklak na muling sisibol
sa kinalugmukan ating ititindig
ang bansa ng ating mga panaginip
Pitong-Libong Pulo – Jess Santiago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesús_Manuel_Santiago
You know Yuko, I will perhaps surprise commenters in Ellen’s blog who are anti-Japanese but I’m being factual:
I’ve always believed that the Japanese have a far greater degree of cultural honor than the Filipinos.
It may be difficult to accept that but history has proven that for centuries. I believe I’ve already told you that in one of our e-mails.
We have great traits as a people, we have wonderful talents, we have a beautiful culture too, we have everything that other cultures lack but we have a defect, to my mind, we still lack CULTURAL HONOR.
CULTURAL HONOR is what makes a nation great; not one’s sense of patriotism or nationalism – all that will follow in abundance if only CULTURAL HONOR is distinctly embedded in our psyche.
The problem is it’s diluted – we prefer to immitate the white man’s culture than to develop our own.
hindi ko tita yung bansot na yun , ystakei , at hindi ako humihingi ng abuloy …
kaunting simpatiya at panalangin lang sana sa mga kababayan natin na nasalanta .
sa mga panahon na ito , sana ipagliban natin pansamantala ang politika at magdamayan at magbayanihan tayo kahit papaano.
kakantahan na lang kita …
at mula sa guho tayo ay babangon
pag-asa’y bulaklak na muling sisibol
sa kinalugmukan ating ititindig
ang bansa ng ating mga panaginip
Pitong-Libong Pulo – Jess Santiago
( i think he has a wikipedia entry )
“kakantahan na lang kita …”
Hahahah!
Atta spirit, Bayonic!
The Filipino trait of resilience is just superb even in time of adversary.
That’s why to me, our nation has hope of still becoming a great one …
Ms Anna:
Space to earth calling, calling, calling! C’mon now, lets get down to earth and face the reality of our nation, “our nation has hope of still becoming a great one…” Oh my gosh! I would agree Pilipinos (with a “P” – I don’t use “F” since it’s not in our alphabet last time I check) quite resilience, but superb? How would you define superb in Pilipinos, anyway. Sounded the Chicken Adobo that I just had last night, very superb. Ha! Ha! Ha! Anna, just messing around, hope you’ve a great sense of humor. By the way, I would like also to hear you sing. Pag maayos, baka maidayo ka sa probinsya.
Ms Anna:
I agree., we immitate white men’s culture than develop our own”. I think, if anything else we need to reenforce our own cultural, Pilipino language, barong tagalog, Maria Clara and so forth. That’s why for the simple reason, I refused to use the “F” when I relate to Pilipinos with a “P”. The “F” was one of the creation of the white men’s culture and certainly not ours. That’s my excuse. So , I suggest that we start from the very beginning who that ever maybe, our ancestors. (Quite poor in Philippines history. I can only goes back to Lapu-Lapu) Not talking about Magellan. He’s nothing but an undocumented illegal alien that landed on our shores. And there are also many illegal alien in Mindanao wearing uniforms, so we can begin there. Deport them. What say you?
Ms Anna:
Quite an under statement, to say very mildly, you’re being kind, ” we have everything that other cultures lack, but we have a defect,..we still lack cultural honor.” Big time! Tell that to the illegal aliens in Malacanang, I should call them TNT – TAGO NG TAGO.
And for Joc-Joc Bolate, woman in man clothes, hope that he never see the dawn of the light in his cell. May his day, and every single day of his life will be as miserable as he looked. May all the money that he stole from the Philippines treasury, he never get the chance to enjoy it. And may all his accumulated fat will do him in sooner than later. Lastly, may the million red ants visit his cell while he’s asleep, and may the buzzards have their day with Bolate at last. Then, Anna can sing afterward. Amen!
Heheh, Toney, you should speak to Bayonic – he’s the one who’s serenading Yuko!
If I sing, you will have worse devastaions in Pinas – baka magkaroon pa ng lindol!
The heavens cry when I sing! Hahah!
Where in the heck the Gigolo (Migeulito – Gloria’s partner in crime)of San Francisco now a days, the twin brother of Bolate only during feast time? He has been quiet these few days, I guess planning another libel. Wonder, who will be next. Any gambler among us here, I got two hundred counterfeit pesos, with disgusting picture printed on the bill. I guess, I fart on her face and do away with these bill. Any taker?
I don’t know what got in to me, just writing lots of nonsense and having fun. It’s fun day today, lets forget Philippines miseries and have a fun day at the expense of Gloria’s people, no sacred cows, ika nga sabi ni Mang Melo. I’ll wear my old uniform with the 5 star. Eat your heart out ( translation – Kainin mo ang puso palabas Assperon), Esperon.
“Where in the heck the Gigolo (Migeulito – Gloria’s partner in crime)of San Francisco now a days”
in London , comparing notes and exit strategies with Thaksin Shinawatra
A true story. Happened in America, only in America could this happen. I’m not much of telling a story, but this I thought very funny and if many of you have not heard of this, I would like to share it with you. This couple names are Gloria and Miguel, they owned a beautiful home in San Francisco with a magnificent vegetable garden in the backyard over looking the Golden Gate Bridge. The couple are into fresh vegetable, they love fresh Pilipino vegetable. They’ve a neighbor name Iggy, nobody what kind of business is Iggy in and his wife. Iggy never work, but somehow he’s living the rich and famous envious lifestyle.
One day, the two neighbors had a falling out about money, that somehow Miguel and Gloria was accused by Iggy of not paying what they owed him for covering up for them. I don’t know what’s that all about, they are very zip lips about it, since they don’t want to sink the ship. Anyway, Iggy was pissed one day, so mad that he called the FBI, San Francisco Police and reported Miguel and Gloria of producing Marijuana Plants in their vegetable garden yard. San Francisco Authority and FBI showed up at Miguel and Gloria’s door, told them that Iggy called them about you two producing illegal Marijuana Plants. Miguel and Gloria told the FBI, that Iggy is just jealous of our Plants since I won’t give him any when I harvest the fruit of my labor. FBI asked Miguel and Gloria, do you admit that you’ve planted and producing marijuana plants. Miguel and Gloria both said, yes sir. They were both happy of their plants. FBI went around the yard with Miguel and Gloria, but they couldn’t find any marijuana plant in the vegetable garden, So, the FBI went next door and fetch Iggy. You called us and told us that Miguel and Gloria planted and producing an illegal plant marijuana. Where are there, asked the FBI. Iggy said to the FBI, there right next your feet. FBI still keep looking can’t see the marjuana plant. So, Iggy getting frustrated touched the plant, said here – and it was instead an Ampalaya. I thought it’s funny.
Hello everybody;
Came in yesterday without knocking, sorry if that’s being rude. Today I’m welcoming myself, welcome din kaya ako kay Ellen at sainyo? Pero kahit na hindi ako welcom, nandito na ako, uso naman ngayon ang by force, tulad ng ginawa kay Assperon, di ba?
Well, my name is Sniper; Race is Pinoy na Pinoy at kahit na mag-abroad ako, hindi ako mag-gi-give-up sa Pinoy at hindi ko maatim na tawagin ko ang sarili ko na hindinapinoy, mainly because I am a true-blooded Filipino and nothing in my appearance will ever change. Hindi ako mag-mu-mukhang American or Canadian na white, blonde, tall at magaling magsalita ng English, kasi, kung mag-English ako, very thick and very Filipino pa rin ang lalabas na accent ko., o kaya magiging isang colored american or canadian with curly tops just like dennis rodman ng NBA. Kaya it’s Filipino all the way.
Sign of the Times:
Something amiss is going on: USA, Canada and the Philippines are dancing and acting on the same tune. Is it a fad among them? They are turning their sights behind instead of focusing it on the front.
USA’s Bush is blaming former Pres. Bill Clinton on their problems about Bin Ladin, and even spent millions in his propaganda against the ex-pres.
Canada’s PM Harper is lashing at his predecessor former PM Martin’s comment about the Afghanistan mission. the later said it’s only for reconstruction and rebuilding but now it’s getting close to a war and fatalities are going up.
Philippines’ Ate Glo is blaming ERAP on the very very poor economic performance of the country under her regime being at the very near bottom of the pack, inspite of the doctored report by government and private economists that Filipinos have the highest individual per capita in the region. Who will believe that BS? They themselves will say
“That’s Baloney”.
OK. So Bayonic, hindi mo Tita si Bansot, but according to Malaya the damage was not that much compared to the damage of such typhoons that caused landslides in Quezon and Leyte. Kaya medyo nadismaya siguro si Bansot na hindi niya magagamit na pangungulekta ng abuloy ang disaster na ito. Golly, isa din yata na ginagawang business ng administration ng ito ang mga calamities sa Pilipinas para mapuno ang kaban para malustay at ibayad sa mga heneral, et al na susuporta sa Pandak. Kamukhang-kamukha talaga ni Idi Amin.
Soleil, I’ll email to you the file on the Preparedness for your perusal. Paki-print out mo na lang. Frankly, I have an emergency kit for the three of us in my family complete with three sleeping bags and thermal sheets lalo na dito na usually sa Winter may disaster. I also have two container boxes of can foods, etc. to last for a month or two although over in Japan we are asked to at least have an emergency kit and food for at least 72 hours kasi mabilis naman ang relief operation dito. Each town and district keep a storage for food and other relief goods. There are also designated evacuation centers, usually schoolbuildings or much more sturdier buildings that cannot easily be destroyed by earthquake, etc.
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One thing the Japanese government does not do is ask for donations overseas when there are disasters in Japan. Sa Pilipinas ginagamit pang business ng pangongolekta ng gagastusin ni Pandak o panakip butas sa mga kinukurakot nila ang mga salanta sa bansa. Ang kapal talaga! Ang laki ng ibinigay ng Japan sa salanta for example doon sa Leyte!
Welcome aboard Sniper! I hope you left home your rifle when you signed in to this blog. We don’t want any triggy fingers or accident or another Colombine. About, Bush blaming Clinton, I never heard Bush spoke of it in Public. Kinda watching the international news, American talk show and American news on tv and never heard once President Bush blame Clinton for not killing Bin Ladin. Have you? Did you see the movie just shown on tv prior to 9/11, I think it was on ABC or CBS one of the two where Clinton were pissed for showing it? Yeah? President Bush spent millions in his propaganda against the ex-pres? Are you serious? Better check this info with Miguel to make sure it’s fact and not liable for libel. What do you think?
Anyway, I thought I should say little bit about the american politic since you brought it up. Back to Malacanang after the commercial.
sniper, as always I would like to reply to comment about our PM and our foreign policy. Former PM Martin committed our troops to move to kandahar from kabul and expecting them to shake hands with talibans, but no, the talibans met them with suicide bombers, and improvised roadside bombs and rockets attacks. That is why PM Paul Martin lasted only a good few months as Prime Minister and lost the majority which Jean Chretien had no trouble winning all of 3 elections. And instead of Public Protest against the war, today we have a “red shirt” to show support to our troops and their mission. Red shirt representing our color, not for blood, but also for the bravery of our young soldiers who volunteer their services for their country and ready to offer the ultimate sacrifice wherever they are called to serve. thank you..
Lets face it, Philippines is a third world country and need all the help it can muster from rich country. Sad, but what you’re going to do? Forget illegitimate Gloria for a second, just think of those needed help badly. It’s now that we recognize the present problem, yet we must change the future so we don’t be asking help most especiallhy from neighboring countries like Japan in particular. When you hungry, somehow one’s honor no longer applies.
Beggars no choosers. Very true Toney. I always believe all things equal, we are as honourable, upright people and society as anybody’s.
We can make all kind of argument to why the Philippines got to this predicament we now are in. Surely, plenty blame to go around, and which way to turn to have fun. Of course, we can always blame illegitimate Gloria, and the Arroyos to exacerbate the problem even more. But, there is the time the feeling must be set aside, because Milenyo without pity to already impoverished country shown the power of mother nature. Half of the country to what I read need help, 43 million still without power. Lets not compare Philippines to how great other countries in time of need, or how rich countries are self-sufficient. Good for them!
Right on Vic, beggars can’t be choosy! Lots of truth on that.
in a way i agree with sniper that one cannot change one’s race, kung pinoy ka pinoy ka habang buhay. ang ibig naman sigurong sabihin ni hindinapinoy ay hindi na siya citizen ng pinas, pero ang kagandahan naman sa kanya ay umuuwi pa rin siya kahit papaano para malanghap pa rin ang hanging pinas kahit siguro hindi na kasing puro ng hanging iniwan niya.. agree din ako dito sa huling sulat ni toney cuevas na may time na ma set aside ang ibang bagay in time of need.there is no doubt naman as vic aptly put it that we are as honourable and upright as others kaya lang may kasabihan naman sa tagalog na ang taong nagigipit kahit sa patalim ay kumakapit..
Rumors are going around and even published in major newspapers, bogus Gloria said, ” Philippines is now a Second World Country.” Did I missed something? When the country was elevated to 2nd World Country? Is this something like dagdag/bawas or the formula for classroom shortage, instead of 50 to 1 ration, by the power of pen it was changed to 100 to 1. Now you see, now you don’t, no shortage of classroom. Hokus -Pokus, make Philippines the 2nd world country this month and 1st world country next year…Walla!
How did it happen?
Toney,
Where did u get that info? Pls pass on to me the source. If true, all I can say is that d’pandak of pasig is truly boba. She doesn’t know the meaning of 2nd world, as if it were a transition from 3rd to 1st. hahahaha! Readings in pols sci and socio tell us that 2nd world means “communist countries”.
Talagang boba ang loka na yan. Pareho sila ni Gunggong Gonzales na sinile na. Panay pa wari ang pagmamalaki niya na gagawa raw ng “super maids” out of pinoy OFWS. At yung “Strong Republic,” “1st world daw ang pinas in 20 yrs”, at iba pang katarantaduhan.
Bakit ba kasi ayaw pa ng mga pinoy na patalsikin yan at ang mga suwapang na alipores niya sa Kongreso, PCGG, DFA, BIR, Customs,at iba pang croc-infested agencies.
hawaiianguy:
Check Asian Journal, Publication September 27, 2006, the title of the article, “Philippines now ‘Second World,’ says Arroyo. Speaking at the annual gridiron of the National Press Club at the Manila Hotel, Gloria declared, “Philippines is now a Second World or Middle Class Country. Furthermore, Gloria said, right now, we are not Third World anymore. And according to Gloria (if you can believe her), in 2020 Philippines can reach First World status. “…there is much to be hopeful for,” so she said, Gloria.
I think Gloria was smoking the funny cigar again.
hehehe … i read that news when it came out … the reason behind daw why we are a “second world” or a “middle class” country is that tumaas na raw ang per capita income ng mga Pinoy …. 1400 US dollar na daw ….
pero seguro , after Milenyo , bumaba na naman ito sa 1390 kaya 3rd world country tayo ulit.
at the same event , the president of the NPC ; in his opening remarks , appealed to her to decriminalize libel ; understandably she acted as if she did not hear anything.
she also left before the show , “Pinoy Big Problem At The Palace “.
Gloria said that the Philippines is no longer a Third World country but a Second World countrt? Just because she got promises of aids from Japan (as usual), the UNO, WB, and even perhaps, UK? This is news indeed, but I’d rather believe ratings by other source that says the Philippines’ general economic rating is still bad!
Everyone is in debt, including the OFWs that she gauges her success in with majority of them paying mortgages, etc. and unsure of whether or not they can fully pay their debts unless they stay staking their lives, limbs, and legs overseas. Is that progress?
No matter what she says, regardless of whether or not the Philippines will be better with its debts even paid with monies borrowed from lenders, the fact remains that she has committed grave crimes against the people of the Philippines that in fact and principle, she should be made legally responsible together with her husband, son, friends, cronies, et al.
As long as she is there, the Philippines will forever remain a third or fourth world country, especially when you think of it becoming a country where people go to school not to better off their stature in life but to become Super Atsoy/Atsay and Super Tapu!
So, all these talks about a progressive Philippines is nothing but BS. It is more like “nangangarap ng dilat ang mga mata!”
Toney & Ystakei,
Thanks for the reference you gave, Toney. Calling a country “2nd world” means that it adheres to communism. So, the Philippines has become a “2nd world country” according to a fake President who has declared all-out war against leftists and communists in the country?
Kung hindi Boba yang si tyanak, bulok na ang utak niya. Sayang ang PhD niya sa Economics (kuno). I really doubt what kind of degree she has. Here in the US, I have not known of a single PhD who doesn’t know the difference between “second world” and “third world” countries.
Recently, she came here in Hawaii. As usual, only “favored” guests and pro-GMA were invited to attend the event which she graced, the unveiling of the marker of a “sakada.” A biting commentary in a local paper (I think, Honolulu Advertiser), said, “she should not be received here with Aloha.” She is a disgrace not only to Filipino women but to all Filipinos who work hard to earn their keeps. Most pinoys in Hawaii ignored her, knowing her obsession with power and money.
You are right, ystakei. Mahilig mangarap ng dilat ang taong ganyan. I’ll bet my ass, the Philippines will remain a third world country as long as it is ruled by leaders in the likes of Gloria and those greedy politicians around her.
Question is, how do we get rid of corrupt and immoral leaders like them? I can hardly wait for the 2010 presidential election. It may not even happen the way they try to move heaven and earth to change the constitution.
Wow, the Philippines was promoted as a second world country, courtesy of the high grades given by Aling gloria. The gall of this evil woman is really amazing. Just a few days ago a report from the WB gave the Philippines a very low failing grade in its fight against corruption, the next minute she
is unashamely announcing to the whole world that she is claiming a second world status for the Philippines. Ang kapal-kapal talaga ng mukha, hindi marunong mahiya. Why can’t she wait for world economic bodies and agencies to declare it. She knows it’s not coming, because the country doesn’t deserve it considering the living conditions of the people where majority are living in poverty and who doesn’t even know about a thing about per capita income. US$1400 per capita income sa mga pinoy? C’mon, give me a break! And who in the world will take her word seriously? So from now on beside having a fake president, we also have a fake second world status, in the enchanted kingdom of the evil queen.
The question is…why does GMA’s government keep on receiving aids from Japan? It looks like only a few Japanese really hate this Gloria. And the most vocal in this blog doesn’t really represent all the Japanese nationals?
ANO ang gusto mong isagot sa iyo, npongco?
Yung TOTOO na ayaw mong marinig…
o yung ‘sugar-coated’ answers na gusto mong marinig?
Pumili ka.
npongco asks: “The question is…why does GMA’s government keep on receiving aids from Japan? “xxxx
Hmmm…BAKIT nga kaya? May naisip ka na bang sagot?
Sige nga, alam ko alam mo ang sagot….
Maliwanag pa sa liwanag ng Buwan, lalo na kung BILOG ito!
Besides, Kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan? 🙄
Alam ko na alam mo ang sagot, magtatanong ka pa!
2nd World!?
Nagha-halucinate na naman si madam pygmy na may asawang may excess [sa lahat ng bagay!]
Baka nagpro-prozac na naman yan…. malakas ang guni-guni ng mga hindi makatulog dahil sa dami ng ginagawang kabalbalan laban sa Bayan!
Ang sabihin mo pati ang pag hallucinate niya, mali at kabaliktaran tulad niyang baliktad ang bituka at bulok na ang utak dahil napurga sa kalalamon ng pork. “2nd world” country means a communist country. kala niya magandang pakinggan yun, eh di ba yun ang isinusuka niya?
tungkol sa paglamon ng pork, nabalitaan mo bang naconfiscate ang shipment na one milyon cans of corned beef sa Subic freeport at ipinadala sa FG?
Toney, you sure have a great imagination.
Taipan, do you think Japan will keep sending aids to RP without anything in return? Where are those advocates who claim to be regularly protesting against GMA in Japan? Gosh, they can’t even convince their politicians to stop helping GMA.
I agree with hawaiianguy, that ‘2nd world country’ statement reveals a lot about Gloria. She is not as smart as she pretends to be. I’m also having doubts about her PhD in Economics.
hawaiianguy, siguro nth degree in insanity. ang thesis na idinipensa niya ay “how to keep fallacy in the government accepted by the believing folled fool people”.
…..believing fooled fool people.
As far as I know its part of the government program to send aid to all countries in need of its help.
Just look at African nations: hwag mong sabihin na kaya tumutulong ang Japan eh, may kapalit? Ano namn kaya ang kapalit galing doon? Aber?
Geez, some people must be really dreaming! 0r are they enveloped in gloria’s enchanted kingdom also?
Even if someone from the Japanese Embassy explain it to you, no one can convince a mind such as yours.
I have said my piece. I will leave you in peace.
Kung ayaw mong maniwala, nasa sa iyo na yun.
Pretender to the position….
Pretender din ba sa PhD nya?
My oh my! Bogus sa lahat ng bagay!
Bogus President na,
Bogus Doctor pa!
Yayayay!!!!
Baka naman doctor sa numero sa balota? 🙄
Taipan:
Talking of ODA to Africa, I did a translation of a tape that the JVC now uses for its trainee program. It was a documentary of Japanese ODA to Tanzania that proved successful because the people there are more serious to make things better for themselves. They have even adopted those unique Japanese public toilets with the typical Japanese toilet bowl, and they prove to be popular with the Tanzanians willing to do things according to Japanese specification.
In the Philippines, I’m told that volunteers are not as keen to serve there because of the “yabang” attitude of most Filipinos kahit walang ibubuga. And to the Japanese volunteers, they love the Tanzanians who show their gratitude by making good use of Japanese aids unlike in the Philippines where most of the aids go only to some people’s private account! Tarantado mamimintas pa!
I read somewhere, Taipan, that the bogus president got her PhD by paying someone at UP by simply making some revision of a thesis submitted earlier by her father. Ang yabang nga e alam ko namang rejected iyan the first time she tried to get into UP and her father going ballistic against then UP President Cinco.
The Pandak is actually my contemporary, and her not being able to enter UP was then talk of the town. I always remembered her looking so ugly with no one mentioning that she ever resembled Dadong Macapagal that is why I know her face is fake! She looked more like the mother as a matter of fact.
Oh what money can do really to change one’s face now!
ANC, ABS-CBN Global news channel has been continuously airing the devastation brought by typhoon Milenyo especially in Southern Tagalog- Quezon, Laguna and Cavite.
Most of those affected were unable to save any of their belongings. Kung ano ang suot nila nang nanalanta si Milenyo ay iyon pa rin ang suot nila. Ang mahalaga daw ay buhay sila at ang kanilang pamilya.
These events are being viewed by Filipinos overseas as subscribers to the ABS-CBN Global transmission. Donations and relief goods will be pouring in again.
It should go directly to those affected and not to the politicians who will manipulate these goods for their own benefits.
Sana isinama na ng bagyong Milenyo si Pandak! Iniwan pa niya kawawang Pilipinas na naman ang mahihirapan.
ystakei,
contemporary mo pala si pandak. palagay ko nung ni reject siya ng UP ay talagang walang ibubuga siya. me kunti akong info sa UP School of Econ noong una silang nag open ng PhD in Econ. talagang piling pili ang mga nakapasok, at yung tunay na scholarly lang. hindi nga lahat ng natanggap dun nakatapos ng PhD. marami silang bumagsak kay mahar mangahas pa lang. alam ko yun, kasi me mga kaibigan ako na andun sa program na yun, at nasa UP ako ng dekadang yun. sa mga nakikita ko kay pandak na ugali niya at abilidad, talagang hindi siya papasa sa UP Econ. maliban na lang kung dadayain niya ang resulta, tulad ng gawain niya ngayon.
Emilio:
Pati Red Cross hindi na raw puedeng pagkatiwalaan pagdating sa mga donations. Gosh, alam naman path ng bagyo ang Pilipinas kung bakit walang ginagawa para man lang sa evacuation kung may unos.
Katatapos lang ng mga collection para sa Leyte landslide, manghihingi na naman ang asawa ng ambassador na minsan nakakaduda na ang wala namang natatanggap iyong mga dapat makakuha ng abuloy!!!
Kawawang bansa! Pati abuloy sa mga salot at kalamidad ay kinukurakot!!! Kaya lalong naghihirap ang bansa sa totoo lang. Napaparusahan ang lahat dahil lang sa mga kawalanghiyaang ginagawa ng mga nakaupo!
You bet, iyan ang dasal ng majority na pilipino—ang matepok na sana si Pandak, asawa niya at iba pang mga kurakot na nakaupo sa Pilipinas ngayon! As for me, mas gusto kong maghirap sa kulungan o sa sakit ang mga iyan!!!
Hawaiianguy:
Sabi nga ng kaibigan ko na kaklase ni Pandak sa Assumption Convent (College) ay hindi naman nag-graduate sa Georgetown si Pandak, and I doubt if she would make friend with still nobody then Clinton dahil nga matapobre ang hinayupak. Observer status lang ang yabang na. Puro kasinungalingan ang isinusulat sa kaniyang curriculum vitae kasi alam niyang puede siyang magproduce ng pekeng diploma. Uso iyan sa Pilipinas! Pati nga passport napepeke.
Ilan ang nahuling member for example ng Japanese Red Army na dala ay Philippine passports? Mga hapon iyan ha pero ang dala nang mahuli sila ay Philippine passports. Kaya nga iyong mga pulis ay humingi sa Philippine Embassy ng specimen ng Philippine passports since the early 90’s dahil may report na galing sa Interpol na nabigyan ng Philippine passports ang mga ito na nasangkot sa pagbobomba ng airport sa Tel Aviv in the 70’s. Mga Japayuki nga karamihan peke ang passport dahil bawal magtrabaho sa bar and club ang mga dalaginding at binatilyo na ginagawang mga bakla! Pwe! Ang corruption nga naman hindi na mahinto lalo na nang umupo itong si Bugaw na Bansot! Yuck!
Putsa, kaya hindi ako mapasok sa blog na ito eh mali pala ang sinusulat ko: http://www.ellentortillas.com. Imbes na Tordesillas…Tortillas ang sulat ko. Kasi ba naman mahilig ako sa Mexican food. Anyway, anong bago? Siyempre walang belo (veil) para kay Bolante. Hindi naman siya madre. Hindi ba madre lang ang may veil…iyon sinusuot sa ulo at tinatakpan ang mukha?
Tungkol sa mga donations. Naku, hope that countries who will give donations would give them straight to the victims. (They should come up with some procedure somehow).I remember those donated blankets directly from Sweden (if am not mistaken) for the victims of the earthquake in Baguio were substituted with local blankets. Obviously, pinagkaperahan. Pati daw donated corned beef pinalitan ng sardinas.
Yuko:
Noong very active pa si Ms. Rosa Rosal sa Red Cross ay hindi ka makaririnig ng anumang anomalya dahil hindi pa laganap ang dayaan at palitan ng mga relief goods.
Pero ngayong mga alipores na ni Pandak ang nandiyan ay ano pa ang aasahan ng mga nabiktima sa natural disasters?
“Putsa, kaya hindi ako mapasok sa blog na ito eh mali pala ang sinusulat ko: http://www.ellentortillas.com. Imbes na Tordesillas…Tortillas ang sulat ko….”
Konting respeto naman sa ating host na si Ms. Ellen. You can say anything against a person but don’t ever malign his/her name.
On artsee’s posting “October 1st, 2006 at 2:04 am”
Andyan ka naman eh,
baka ma-altapresyon ka nyan!
pero, sa tingin ko pwede ka sa Central Intelligence.
dun sa posting mo sa itaas ay saka ko lang nalaman na ito palang si Christian Bale aka Bruce Wayne/Batman ay meron na ulit pelikula na The Dark Knight sa 2008.
artsee, sana makahanap tayo ng ibang blogs at duon tayo parehas magpost ng mga tulad ng “bail, veil(belo),christian bale” atbp.
Hwag na dito kay ellen. 😉
Tumpak yan!
Ang KORAPSYON, gaya na pati sa ibaba ng hagdan ng ating lipunan. Hwag mong sabihing malinis yang taga- RedCross, dahil first hand nakita ko, narinig ko yun sa isang sunog sa may Sta.Mesa-Sampaloc area. Totoong sila muna, bago ibigay sa mga nasunugan ang mga relief goods. Kaya nga ako umiwas na pagkatapos nun…naasar ako sa ginawa ng mga insider sa RC na magtabi para sa kanila, sa halip na ibigay lahat sa mga biktima.
Siguro, direct na ibigay sa nasalanta, kesa ipadaan pa sa mga ahensiya ng kurakot.
artsee: it was done in bad taste, donchathink?
para kang si npongco na nag-comment sa picture ni Ms. Ellen.
Confucius says:
More talk, more mistake;
Less talk, less mistake;
No talk, no mistake!
This idiot artsee should have long been banned from this group. Don’t insult me by even thinking he and I are one. This is one guy who’s fond of name calling. There should be some control in this blog and I don’t think Ellen is doing a good job disciplining such jerks.
Emilio:
Pati mga NGO sa Pilipinas sa totoo lang mahirap pagtiwalaan kaya ang ginagawa ng mga support groups dito sa Japan ay sila na ang pumupunta doon para magdistribute. Nakakadala kasi sa totoo lang. In 1991 (or was it 1992), when Mt. Pinatubo erupted, a union of Japanese local government employees invited me to join a cruise to the Philippines. We travelled on a chartered ship that they filled up with donations of relief goods for the victims of the explosion many of whom were displaced and left homeless.
Golly, dismayadong-dismayado ako sa nakita ko. Iyong mga in-charge na NGO, pinagpipilian ang mga ibinabang mga relief goods at swaswapangin na nila. At that time, I was in fact teaching at a Japanese university kaya concern ako sa education kaya sumama ako doon sa pagbisita ng ginagawa daw nilang concern tungkol sa education ng mga batang lasangan. Golly, halatang-halatang wala namang program at kinukurakot lang ang milyong-milyong yen na ibinibigay sa kanila. Kaya after that, mas active ako sa mga bigayan ng abuloy sa ibang lugar gaya ng ginagawa tungkol sa mga batang nawalan ng mga paa at kamay sa Afghanistan.
Kaya iyong mga walang alam kung anong terrorism ang ginagawa ni Bush, e puede ba tumahimik na lang. Iyong mga maling policy nitong mga gunggong din na binoboto ng mga kano ang sumisira sa pangalan ng kanilang bansa na ang pagkakawanggawa ay nakikita mong plastic. O anong kawalanghiyaan ang ginawa sa Iraq. Someday, lalabas din ang katotohanan. At least, may rule of law pa sa America kaya ngayon nasa hot water si Bush. Ang mahirap lang siyempre, itong mga Americano ay mataas ang mga pride kaya hindi iyan aamin ng husto na nagkamali ang presidente nilang mukhang demonyo.
Sa USA ko nga in fact narinig ang anomalya tungkol sa bigayan ng mga donation na hindi naman pala totoo gaya noong mga bote na nakalagay sa mga restaurant na lalagyan mo ng sukli kung hindi mo kailangan ang mga barya para kuno sa kung anu-anong charity. May article na naisulat noon tungkol diyan sa Reader’s Digest sa totoo lang.
BTW, napanood mo ba ang presentation ni A. Cooper ng CNN tungkol kay Bin Laden? Alam mo may konting propaganda but I thought it was fairly presented. Iyong sinasabing interview with Bin Laden, in fact, I was able to watch in its entirety when I was asked to translate it into Japanese for a portion of it to be included in some news presentation when the WTC was attacked on 9/11/2001. It was actually the first time I saw an interview of Bin Laden on TV although I had heard about him when he was kicked out of Sudan on US recommendation. O anong nangyari sa Sudan after that, chaos and anarchy. Malumanay magsalita, and you see a man of good breeding despite the presentation of America that he was an ogre.
Pero gaya nga ng sinabi sa Scriptures, “He who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52) In Hamlet, it is quoted as “Live by the wword, die by the sword.”
This should read, “In Hamlet, it is quoted as “Live by the SWORD, die by the sword.”
Pingpong!
Batu-bato sa Langit,
ang tamaan, masakit!
ystakei,
tama yang observation mo kay pandak. kung hindi naging president si clinton, siguro hindi yan nai broadcast ni pandak na napunta siya sa Georgetown. napansin mo ba, ang hilig ng unanong yan na na mg prop up ng mga sikat na tao para lang mapansin siya. kala niya, nagiging sikat din siya sa ganun. maling choices pa ang mga props niya dahil naging tanyag sila dahil they earned their fame through hard work and ability. tulad ni pacquiao, lara, jasmin, yung mga mt everest climbers, atbp. di tulad niya na nakaw o kabit lang na title/reputation (president, Georgetown student, PhD Econ).
May kuryente na kaya kina Ms. Ellen?
Baka wala pa…..
Any of you guys have seen a movie or an editorial cartoon about a female gorilla her two fists thumping her chest boasting and claiming victory after defeating a rival or a foe? If not, then concentrate, close your eyes, and imagine a tiny as in pandak look-alike gorilla pounding her chest, announcing and proclaiming to the whole world: “ I now proclaim and confirm that the Philippines has attained a Second World status and a few years from now, before my term expires in 2010, that is if I will not succeed with my pet project Cha Cha to let me stay and govern forever, Philippines will be proclaimed again by me but this time as a First World country, and that will be the greatest legacy of my most incompetent, most corrupt, most abusive and most crime ridden government ever in Philippine history”.
why is it that international newspapers keep calling the pinas the sick man of asia when it should be the sick woman.i am just wondering about economic comparisons.back at the start of the marcos regime,the pinas is comparable to south korea.today thailand is way ahead. i donot know of malaysia and indonesia. maybe papua and new guinea?
Cory by the Sea.
“Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,” sabi nga. For me, Ellen is beautiful. E kung kay niretokeng mukha lang na katulad ng kay Pandak tapos pinatungan ng isang katutak na make-up e mas gusto ko naman ang mukha ni Ellen, natural!
Golly, kapag nakita mong nagalit si Pandak lumalabas ang natural—natural na pangit!
Be greatful to Ellen for having a beautiful heart for providing this blog for all without prejudice. It’s something to be considered instead, when you mention name ELLEN TORDESILLAS. And keep her own your prayer that she can continue her mission in life, bring peace and prosperity to the country. Most importantly to educate those need enlightening by bringing facts to this blog. A rare commodity of such a person in a country rule by fascist regime. A dangerous place to be where ELLEN is now, yet she ain’t afraid of the consequences to her personally.
Look inside instead of the cover!
Ellen should take care of herself. Don’t be surprised that the Palace goons are now stalking her and trying to harm her. Does she carry a gun when she’s out of the house. I think journalists are allowed to carry one due to their profession.
Ellen and others who stand their ground deserve accolade. I feel sorry for what’s happening to journalists (and other oppositionists) in the Philippines. Yet, we proudly proclaim to the world that we are a democratic country, a nation that lives under the rule of law.
For gloria to mouth these phrases are plain rhetorics that amount to nothing but emptiness and boasts. She and her ilk are a disgrace to all Filipinos. Her fakery must be exposed, and illegitimate regime ended. The sooner she goes, the better.
Amen to this Hawaiianguy. It’s the reason why we are here in the first place—to demand the return of the rule of law, and send this criminal to jail. For what the Filipinos in general seem to miss is the fact that a crime has been committed. Electioneering is a crime as defined by the Election Code of the Philippines, and anyone breaking such Code has committed a crime and therefore is a criminal, and all the people cooperating with her are just as guilty fo the crime or crimes she has committed with her husband, including even the removal of the duly elected president of the Philippines in 2001 regardless of the baseless accusations they still have yet to prove to merit a conviction. Until she is removed from the palace by the murky river, we are here to stay!!!
Ystakei, I visited your blog and saw the good job pinoys in Japan are doing. We don’t have that in Hawaii yet, or maybe some groups here are just silent and secretive by not publishing themselves on the web.
I believe efforts like this would make a difference in generating public opinion globally about the misrule in the Philippines under the present regime.
Kudos to you and our kababayans there!
nelbar, people who make corny jokes should be in other blogs indeed. They think it’s funny when it’s not. I believe this blog needs an overhaul and get rid of undesirables.
Artsee,
Para hindi ka magkamali sa site ni Ellen, ilagay mo na lang sa ‘favourites’ mo.(Ctrl D ang shortcut, once u r already at her site).
I seldom post but i always read and Artsee is one of my favs. I laugh out loud when he said onetime he rammed his cars and having high blood pressures bec of what he read about Pandak. I believe we sometimes need to have a good laugh, otherwise it would be too boring.
Amen to that, ystakei-san and Toney C.
I look inside rather than out …
and I take care of my words,attacking the black spirit.
Others just rant and keep on blabbing nonsense, thereby revealing one’s selfish motives.
Praise those who make most of their time on Earth doing what is right…doing something to right a wrong….rather than squander something which is not hers, in the first place!
I am all for Ms. Ellen rather than those who come in sheep’s clothing but speaks evil, do evil, and pretend all the way, and steal twice over!
Peace to Men and Women of GoodWill…..
The wrath of the Country for those who plunder its wealth!
Kitamokitako: It’s one thing to have sense of humor and another to be corny especially if one maligns another’s name. I personally don’t find his jokes funny. They’re full of craps.
Mga “ka-bloggs”…what’s happening here? Ma’m Ellen’s “new post” is already longgggggg over due. Just wondering what’s wrong….Hope she’s ok?
npongco Says:
September 30th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
Taipan, do you think Japan will keep sending aids to RP without anything in return? Where are those advocates who claim to be regularly protesting against GMA in Japan? Gosh, they can’t even convince their politicians to stop helping GMA.
for ones I agree on what you’ve said NPongco…but in fairness with Japan as I have seen in here whare I am working for more than a decade now…the “strings attached” on Japan’s aids are not as MANY as what the Kanutos are “attaching” on every pennies that they dole out to poor countries. At least we can say that Japan’s “intentions” have more “heart” than hte Yankees.
Now with a new PM for Japan, let’s just hope that our Kababayans in the Land of the Rising Sun can make a better move in “lobbying” to Mr. Abe-san and his government to start “turning off the valve” on the “aids flow” to gloria’s “shit of a government”, so as not to help in giving her the chance to bolster her “war chest(election funds)”.
What do US’s Rumsfeld and our RP government officials have in common? Refuse to resign.
What do the Pope and Gloria Arroyo have in common? Both said “I’m sorry”.
And lastly to our kababayans diyan sa ‘Pinas, especially in Luzon and parts of Northern Visayas…sana’y sumasaayos na ang inyong mga kalagayan after the devastations brought by typhoon Milenyo.
This natural disaster is another BIG PROBLEM that needs to be addressed properly by our government…and sana lahat ng tulong na babagsak ay mapunta talaga sa tamang nangangailangan, at hindi NAKAWIN ng mga KAWATAN sa pamahalaan ni gloria. Mga KLEPTOs maawa naman kayo sa mga kapwa ninyo!!!
Thanks Spartan. The new Japan PM is our Abe. Abe in Capampangan is “friend”.
With the new Japan PM, let’s hope the country shall now review its policies toward the Philippines under this Arroyo government.
The US just donated money to the Philippines for the typhoon victims directly through the Philippine Red Cross and not Malacanang. The US has become wiser not to commit the same mistake in that Bolante scandal. Japan should do the same; that is, directly giving to the NGOs and the victims themselves.
npongco….I know what “abe” means in Cabalen linggo…3 of my men here are from Pampangga…I always hear them utter words like “maragul, masanting…etc.”, but I guess it would also have a meaning in the Nippon language…what does “abe” means in Japanese “Manang” Yuko?…you can help me on this one 😉
Three of your men? Are you a business owner, manager or supervisor of something, Spartan? Just curious…
Spartans:
The way I understand the ODA to the Philippines are long overdue aids that still has to be released, and most are ODAs to projects even espoused by NGOs. The 80M yen promised JdV accompanied by the ambassador whose wife is into some kind of NGO likewise (self-interest involved no doubt) are promised ODAs long before the Bansot usurped the presidency from Erap.
Japan you bet is more interested in helping the Philippines get on its feet so it can pay back its debts to Japan, etc. As condition for the aids, in fact, I am told that the Philippines is obligated to pay a great portion of its long overdue outstanding accounts to Japan. And there are many willing Japanese to work on this aids as a matter of fact like one group that is trying to negotiate for the Philippines to agree to becoming dumpsite for some hazardous industrial waste somewhere in Mindanao, and you know what this means.
As for what we do in Japan, puede ba tigilan na ang daldal lalo na iyong wala namang ginagawa. At least, over here, we know that what we do will eventually bring results kahit na mabagal, because despite some graft and corruption, at least, over here, we can bring down a corrupt administration unlike in the Philippines where Filipinos can be swayed by propaganda instead of using their heads!
BTW, are you really the Spartan we know. Mukhang clone ka ha. For one thing, Spartan also has had difficulty getting to this blog. That I am informed.
Spartan:
“Abe” is a family name in Japanese as in Shinzo Abe, the newly appointed PM of Japan. It is not a word of expression or anything.
Yup, Cory by the Sea, Ellen is staking her life in fact writing what she has written to help right what is wrong in that lousy government in the Philippines. I am grateful that God is giving her a longer leash in life because the truth is her country and people need her.
Rare is the kind of journalist of her caliber in the Philippines as a matter of fact. The good ones, unfortunately, are either sent to jail or six feet underground.
3 cheers to Ellen! May her tribe increase!
3 cheers likewise to the kind of lawyers and concerned citizens as Atty. Harry Roque. Proud of him and my Alma Mater as a matter of fact. Glad to know that there are still Filipinos like him! Akala ko talagang hopeless na!
Kudos to him and his fellow lawyers at the UP Law Center. It’s what the Philippines need to counter these rampant graft and corruption in the Philippines. I wish their group will become as strong as the Japan Federation of Bar Associations. Through the JFBA, Atty Roque may try asking for financial assistance from the Japanese goverment as ODA than gfrom private individuals who may try to corrupt them.
Mabuhay ka, Atty. Roque! So, who says that advocating for a worthy cause is a waste of time? We’ll definitely never give up.
As the old adage says, “Perseverance is genius in disguise.”
hehehe…Manang Yuko, I am still the “pesky” Spartan that you know….hehehe…being “cordial” to one blogger here that I know alot of us here makes our blood boils is just my way of “understanding” HIS ideas, sentiments, and comments…besides, he’s not as annoying and nuisance as the likes of that Jun, Anthony scalia, Bentong…and whoever, whose only goal in blooging here is to “taint” the honest exchanges of ideals that we all aim for.
now npongco, yes I said “my men” because they are under me…now regarding my work, “Manang” Yuko knows what it is ‘coz I already e-mailed it to her before…privvy info huh ystakei-san 😉
Of course we know Abe is a Japanese family name. We’re not that stupid. What we were saying was that Abe meant something in Capampangan. The name Abe also reminds me of one former famous Japanese basketball player. Anyway, I think this new PM Abe is better than the former one who was Bush’s puppy.
Gee, even Spartan is even now suspected of being a clone by this Ninja. Just because Spartan spoke a different tone. What’s wrong with this Ninja? She suspects everyone who differs her view no matter how minor and insignificant this is. Tsk, tsk, tsk…that’s the problem for not being a Pinoy since the age of 20.
Spartan, thanks for your respect for me. I also value your comments and think highly of you. You don’t have to tell me what kind of work you’re into as long as I know you have at least three men under you. I guess you’re a an interpreter or criminal investigator just like the Ninja I know. Please tell that Ninja to cool down a bit. Better still, tell her to change her old Kimono into a new one.
>we can bring down a corrupt administration unlike
>in the Philippines where Filipinos can be swayed
>by propaganda instead of using their heads!
Alam mo ystakei, dito sa Metro Manila makikita mo ang mga flyover at MRT na may nakapaskil na metallic/bronze plate, PHILIPPINE-JAPAN FRIENDSHIP PROJECT.
Kapansinpansin na dispalinghado rin pala gumawa(mag-plano) ang mga Hapon.
Nasabi ko kasi ito dahil palagi ko nadadaanan ang C-5 Boni Serrano/Katipunan interchange. Itong yung daan leading to Ateneo-U.P. area kung manggagaling ng Ortigas-Pasig business district. Malapit kasi ito dito sa tinatrabahuhan ko.
Nagtataka ako sa flyover na pagkakagawa nito , kung a-applyan ng “laws of physics”.
Kung tumatakbo ang sasakyan ng napakabilis (na ini-expect talaga sa C-5 road), ay hindi dapat ito liliko ng biglaan na gaya ng ipinapakita sa pagkakagawa ng interchange na ito.
Sabi ng mga driver ng jeep na nakakausap ko, na iniwasan daw ng interchange na iyon ang isang village(subdivision) na tinitirhan ng mga mayayaman.
Alam mo sa Singapore, kahit na ang isang building ay mass housing pa! at tatamaan ng isang INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT? talagang lilinisin(Demolish) para lang maging successful ang pagkakagawa ng nasabing proyekto. Ganon kaseryoso ang mga infrastrucute project sa Singapore hindi tulad dito sa Pilipinas(Metro Manila in particular), MAY PINAPABORAN.
Alam nyo, sa nasaksihan ko noong panahon ni Marcos, noong ginagawa ang LRT(early 80’s) sa kahabaan ng Recto – Sta.Cruz areas? Napansin ko noon dyan na DINEMOLISH talaga ang ISETAN DEPARTMENT STORE, malapit sa FEATI school, para sa pagsasagawa ng LRT (Monumento-Baclaran line).
Pero ngayon, ang mga foreign funded na infrastructure projects ay may pinapaboran. Hindi kayang magsakripisyo para sa kapakanan ng karamihan. Halata na may palaging pinapaboran.
KAYA NAUUNAWAAN KO NA AYAW TALAGANG MAG-INVEST NG MGA FOREIGN GROUPS SA BANSA NATIN LALO NA SA INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS!
Pagdating sa mga infrastructure projects , sa kapakanan ng negosyo/iilan at hindi para sa karamihan! ayan ang totoo dito sa Pilipinas!
Kaya minsan ay nauunawaan ko si hindinapinoy
what a country!
Thanks, Hawaiianguy, but rest assured that we are not into this advocacy for anything else but to see the Philippines back to the path of glory again so to speak.
The point is that as long as the Midget is there, the country is definitely heading for perdition, and all these talks about the Philippines improving in a matter of days is all propaganda paid with public funds.
Just think of the millions of dollars being wasted on the expensive image lifting for the Midget. Gosh, it could have been used for building schoolhouses and have all Filipino children of school age to go to school, not to some caregiver training course that will turn them (kuno) into Super Atsoy and Super Atsay.
BTW, New Caledonia has started some hate campaign against Filipino migrant workers there. Just imagine the possibility of similar campaigns against Filipinos in other countries like Japan for example likewise. It is another risk the OFWs in fact has to face because the bogus president actually does not have any definite plan at all about solving the perrenial problem of unemployment in the Philippines without burdening other countries especially those that have similar economic problems as those of the Philippines.
Tarantado talaga! And the nerve of this bogus president and her cahoots to call the Filipino overseas workers as the Philippines’ No. 1 Export in connivance with Landbank and Metrobank for example that apparently are looking forward to getting their due profits with these caregiving bullshits.
Pag dating sa mga raket, diyan magaling ang mga hinayupak as a matter of fact! Time to stop them as a matter of fact!
Nelbar:
Don’t blame the Japanese for those billboards para panglangis sa mga hapon. I doubt if the Japanese are even aware of it. Pag dating sa bolahan diyan magaling ang mga hinayupak. What do the Japanese know of this except think that it is NORMAL in the Philippines and they can do nothing but nod their head, not really in consent but more like “Is that so?”
npongco,
nai-open mo ulit ang basketball, salamat!
gaya nung kay artsee, may naalala na naman ako tungkol sa Abe mo?
Si original “kalawit king” at itong two-time MVP ng PBA.
Buti dyan sa Japan may “Friend” na , may Emperor pa!
Kami naman dito ay “King” da-original! Palaging nasa puso’t isipan namin si “Da King”.
Matanong nga kita npongco? maka-Crispa ka ba o Toyota?
Ako naman, ‘anybody but Jawo’. Alam mo na siguro ang ibig kong sabihin lalo na nang kumampi si BRB sa Ginebra noon 😡
Tell you what, Nelbar, most stable companies I know in Japan would not want to invest in the Philippines because of the high risk. It is not favoritism! It is more self-preservation.
Sony for instance back out of a big project there when Ramos was president. When I asked a friend at Sony why, he told me it was just too risky.
On the other hand, I know a lot many “tarantado” Japanese finding the Philippines a haven for their illegal activities especially when they can always pay whoever there to protect their business interests. So, why blame them for finding the Philippines a good haven for money laundering that unless you and I cooperate will never be discovered for them to be properly investigated and convicted especially in less corrupt courts like the ones we have in Japan?
In short, yagit na hapon ang mahilig maki-deal sa mga yagit ding pinoy. And they definitely do not represent the whole of Japan, nor the Japanese government for that matter.
no problem npongco, you taken shots at me before and surely I’ve thrown alot to you too…nothing personal, ika nga. Now, regarding “Manang” Yuko’s “suspicion” about me…can’t blame her, kasi yung mga galamay ng mga galamay (at maybe galamay pa din nuong mga galamay…nak ng teteng hindi na matatapos ito…hehehe) ni gloria would do anything just to please their masters on the task given to them…that to be “watch dogs”(more of lap dogs) and saboteures of “anti-gloria” forums be it live or in cyberspace. In fact I am starting to believe her, that even gloria’s retard of a daughter is even amongst us here..hiding in different “handle” and even using “men sounding” names. Kaawa-awang babae…naniniwala or she’s really trying to live a “make belief” life na “santo, perpekto, malinis, kapita-pitagan, at ideal” ang kanilang pamilya…tsk tsk tsk. Ganyan mga karakter ang nagiging mga psychotic at serial killers sa US….hehehe
Kung may proof ka, Nelbar, ipadala mo sa akin and I will bring your complaint to the Diet regarding the misuse of Japanese ODA. Iyan ang gusto naming malaman in fact dito sa Japan. Name names kung gusto mo para masibak kung sinumang tarantadong hapon ang kasangkot!!!
>Don’t blame the Japanese for those billboards para
>panglangis sa mga hapon. I doubt if the Japanese are
>even aware of it. Pag dating sa bolahan diyan magaling
>ang mga hinayupak.
Ang point ko ystakei hindi yung sa billboard,
“the way the Japanese managed and acted as consultant to the said project and alike.”
Kung ikukumpara mo ang mga Hi-ways sa Singapore leading to airport(Changi) at Harbourfront Center: PIE, ECP at CTE – talagang walang sinabi ang mga Hi-way dito sa Metro Manila.
Bakit natitiyak mo bang mga consultant na hapon ay talagang nasusunod? Ang titigas ng ulo ng mga tao diyan lalo na kung alam nilang hindi sila magkakakuwarta. Ano ba ang magagawa ng mga hapon kung nandiyan? Wala! I should know, because a lot of my Japanese friends who have worked there as Japanese volunteer find themselves frustrated, and the weaker ones in fact come home some nervous wrecks!!!
Now, kung hindi mahusay ang highway sa Philippines, bakit mo sisihin ang mga hapon? Taga-supply lang naman sila ng pera sa totoo lang!
Everybody here in fact knows the padded bills, etc. lalo na diyan sa Department of Public Highways or whatever that agency used to be known Pero anong magagawa ng mga hapon? Hindi naman puedeng hulihin ng mga Japanese police ang mga kurakot diyan. Kung may alam ka, ipadala mo ang prueba and will try to present it to the agency in charge of the ODA here for proper action. Puede namang ipahinto ang aids sa Pilipinas kung may pipiyak sa totoo lang!
nelbar: Be careful in criticizing the land of the Rising Sun or you be attacked by these Ninjas. Hmmm…you also love basketball uh? But when you start mentioning Crispa and Toyota, I immediately know you’re in your 50s or 60s. No problem…I was only three when I started watching the two great teams play. I got addicted since the days of the MICAA. I prefered the coaching style of Tito Eduque. Crispa and Toyota? I picked Crispa if only because many of the Toyota players especially Jaworski were arrogant. Remember those guys beating up the referees? Jaworski was suspended for a long time until Bongbong Marcos, an avid Toyota fan, came to his rescue. The games were so exciting. The only thing I hated was the game fixing. You know the group of Florencio and Papa.
Spartan, you did nothing wrong to me in the past. I think I was the one who started it. Life is too short and we all here have one common enemy, this current illegal occupant of the Palace. Unfortunately, despite our common mission against this GMA, some heavy hitters (or hitter…singular) in this blog never stop with their (her) sarcastic remarks and combative nature. This Empress (as nelbar calls her) mentions all members’ names except mine. Yet, her messages were obviously directed at me and she pretends to communicate with another member. I don’t know why she hates me. If it’s because of my being a Capampangan, that’s foul. I have my share of sarcasm and mistakes. But if this Ninja thinks I’m gonna back off, she’s dead wrong.
npongco, my favorite waw san miguel with Paner and martirez combo and I can’t remember that beauty, who’s always on the sideline whenever they played at Rizal. Boy that was a long time ago. now, i always route for the Big shaq, even though our own Raptors have a decent starters this years with a number of new acquistition. If you click my handle, we even have a fantasy basketball contest in our own very close knit town assoc., to raise more funds for our townsfolks back home. We can’t just leave it alone with our local governments. Dig in deeper until it hurts…
Now, it was Daisy R., I just remember. memories fading away..
nelbar: i donot know in detail the project you wrote about, but in my experience in handling large projects, it is the owner or in this case the dept of highways who define the project,i.e., limitations in speed and curves etc., and the consultants just produce solutions in accordance to the client’s wish.it could also be that the builders built it not in accordance with the plans or some people changed the plans after the consultants have submitted theirs. for projects where contributing countries has some money, normally they send the best consultants available.the problem you described is so elementary that i doubt if it is the consultant’s mistake.
Congratulations UST for winning the 69th season UAAP Seniors Basketball Championship!
Game 3 was decided in an overtime match.
Final Score:
UST – 76
Ateneo – 74
norpil:
i’d like you to come here in Manila and evaluate the C5-Boni Serrano-Katipunan interchange
we have one common enemy. yes, tama ka, npongco. and that is the illegal occupant of malacanan palace together with her court of devils and ghost supporters. kaya tama na ang pasaringan, patutsadahan, batuhan ng ewan. regional criticisms will also never do any good sa ipinaglalaban natin. magiging katawa tawa pa tayo sa mga hackers na supporter ng inang tikbalang. as you have started realizing it yourself, why not make the first move? siguro nagkakahiyaan lang kayo kung sino ang mangunguna. remember, dugong pinoy din kayo pareho na mayroon magkatulad na layuning ipinaglalaban at pinaninindigan kaya siguro mas mabuting isaisantabi na lamang muna ‘yang fried chicken para mas magkaroon ng harmony. it does not mean pinangungunahan ko kayo, kahit ginawa ko na. malay n’yo, baka sa bandang huli maging magkumare/magkumpare pa kayo.
regional criticisms will also do no good……..
norpil, nelbar,
huwag na kayong magtaka sa mga government projects sa pilipinas. kahit pa pinakamagagaling na consultants at builders ang humawak ng trabaho, kung ang mga timawang galamay ng mga kurakot sa gobyerno ang nagmamagaling upang kumita ng malaki sa pagsabotahe sa paggamit ng inferior materials, walang magiging matinong kalalabasan.
mrivera:iyan nga ang gusto kong sabihin.marami akong ka batch diyan sa highway na panay mayayaman na.ayaw ko sanang mag comment pero kahit ano ang sabihin ay ang govt pa rin ang may responsibility.
nelbar: don’t worry, next year ay baka sama sama na rin tayo diyan pero sabi ko nga ay wala rin namang magagawa dahil ang kontrata niyan sigurado ay sila lang ang nakakaalam at nagpirmahan.mabuti diyan sa mga iyan ay habulin ng taga.
npongco’s October 2nd, 2006 at 2:48 pm posting :
Alam mo, mula nang mabasa ko sa dyaryo itong si “Yasushi Akashi” (Japanese envoy to the Balkans), noong 90’s, nagkaroon ako ng ideya na hindi lang pala magaling itong mga Hapon sa Science & Technology, pati rin sa Diplomacy at I.R.
Noong panahon kasi ni FM, madalas na naipapalabas sa mga pelikula sa telebisyon ang kagitingan ng mga Pilipino laban sa mga Hapon. Karamihan nito ay pelikula ni FPJ. Kaya noong 70’s, 30 years matapos ang gera laban sa Hapon, sariwa pa rin sa ala-ala ng mga bata ang kabayanihan ng mga Pilipino o Anti-Japanese sentiments.
Pero ngayon, 30+ years na matapos ang martial law(o 20 yrs matapos ang Feb ’86), patuloy pa rin ang tuligsa kay Marcos.
Nagtataka nga lang ako nitong mga huli sa Inquirer, medyo lumabnaw na ang pagbatikos kay Imelda at mga Romualdezes?Pero noong late 80’s grabe talaga.
Magbalik tayo dun sa mga Hapon, alam mo sa ngayon, mas kinahahangaan ko itong mga Japanese kamikaze pilots. Isang uri ng pagmamahal sa bansa na hindi mapapantayan. Ito siguro ang dahilan kung bakit kinaibigan ng bansang Amerika ang ’empire of the sun’. Dito rin sa palagay ko nagkaroon ng respeto ang mga Amerikano sa Hapon sa larangan ng digmaan.
Para sa akin, sila ay mga martir.
Wala itong pinagkaiba sa “19 martyrs” na kinikilala ko sa kasaysayan.
Nelbar,
Ito ang tandaan mo, beggars cannot be choosers. Kung ang mga pulubi ay siya pang mahilig magreklamo ng limos sa kanila, diyan mo makikitang mga walanghiya na sila. Handang magpadura kahit na plema! Yuck!
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
Mrivera,
Nagtaka ka pa ba. In fact, iyan ang ginagawa ng mga Internet Brigade ni Pandak, ang manggulo lalo na sa mga forum na dominated ng mga galit sa kaniya. On the other hand so what kung manggulo sila. Natatabunan din naman sila ng mga naglalagablab na damdamin para sa ikatitino ng bansa. Basta tuloy lang ang batikos at baka ang mga katulad ni JdV ay baka matauhan din sa wakas lalo na kapag siya ang naging object ng pananaraydor ng mag-asawang bayawak. Bilangin mo na lang ang mga na-traydor nila.
Isang kaibigan nga nila na hindi nakatiis na binulgar ang mga sekreto nila noon ay patay na ngayon. Namatay sa kunsumisyon matapos na siraan nila after that incident na kunyari pina-exile kuno ni Bansot si Fatso sa SFO. Kunyari generous ang mga ungas na ipinamumudmod ang pera ng bayan pero kapag ibinulgar mo ang baho nila, wham, libel suit katulad ng ginagawa ngayon kay Alan Cayetano. Ang kapal!
Iyon namang nagkukunyaring galit kay Pandak e may sira yata sa ulo ang taong iyan kasi ang daming pangalan sa totoo lang, pero alam kong hulihin ang tunay na pagkatao ng hinayupak.
Never supported si Bansot gaya ni Anna. I did not support Erap either kasi nga babaero and I thought his philandering would be a hindrance to anything he might try to do for the Philippines kasi sa Bible malinaw naman ang nangyayari sa mga bansang led by those who could/cannot follow the Commandments of God to the letter. Nevertheless, he was the people’s choice, and their votes should have been honored and respected. I was for impeachment as a matter of fact kung talagang may mali siya. Pero ang ginawa sa kaniya ay pambabastos pa ng Constitution that they cannot just change as a matter of fact without a national referendum or plebiscite. In the first place, wala namang coup in principle kundi ginagago lang ang mga taumbayan! Tama si Eddie Villanueva. Dapat dyan Snap Election pero ano ang guaranty na hindi mandadaya si Bansot lalo na ngayong pinalitan na yata pati ang mga tao sa NAMFREL ng mga tuta niya. Dapat under supervision ng UN katulad ng ginawa sa Cambodia na mabalik ang kapayapaan sa bansang iyon.
Kawawang Pilipinas! Wala na bang pag-asa talaga?!
Nelbar,
Ang kaibahan ay dedication at commitment. Kunti lang mga pilipino lalo na sa mga political appointee ang meron niyan. Ang dahilan ay dahil sa tinatawag na palakasan at favoritism/nepotism. Iyong mga may prinsipyo na may commitment at dedication na guston maglingkod ay nadidismaya at umaalis na lang ng bansa.
Sa totoo lang, based on my own personal experience, the Philippines is far from being a healthy ground to grow in and be the kind of idealistic, law-abiding and useful citizen that one wants and can be. Kaya bilib ako doon sa nakakatagal sa bansang iyan na hindi nakukurakot and/or hindi nagpapadala sa kurakot, and masuwerte na rin na hindi napapatay or nakukulong!
Nakakalungkot sabihin pero dapat.
Mr. Rivera, I have no problem with anyone and am willing to make peace with the one who keeps attacking me directly. The problem is this Miriam sound-alike keeps suspecting members who happen to cross her path as members of the so called GMA Internet Brigade. The latest victim was Spartan who she suspected to be another clone in this blog. You guys are witnesses to this person’s never ending suspicion as if she’s putting good use her criminal investigation background.
Vic, the San Migual team was also my favorite under coach Ning Ramos. Yes, Manny Paner was a strong center-forward. At 6-2, he played good center. Yoyong Martirez was very fast. He always competed with Arnaiz and Bilbao. The lady actress you mentioned was indeed Daizy Romualdez who became Paner’s wife.
Mr. Rivera, I should have written: “attacking me INdirectly.” She never mentions my name in her post and pretends to be responding with the person I communicated.
Back to the old MICAA days, there were lots of good players then. Many are now living abroad. Some are living pitifully and even dead now. Tembong Melencio was knifed to death years ago in a bar. Rudy Soriano was driving a tricycle as livelihood. Mike Bilbao got into a serious car accident in the US and survived almost a vegie. He’s divorced from a model I forgot the name. Francis Arnaiz is now a Christian Pastor in San Francisco. I think Danny Florencio is also in California. I heard somewhere in the East Bay called Pittsburgh. Elias Tolentino used to be a Makati Councilor.
npongco, nelbar: in my time there were not so many prof basket yet, but we have the ncaa and as a bandmember at mit was always free to see these games.just wonder what happened to carlos loyzaga, but i suppose you are too young to remember this guy.
Npongco, Mrivera, and others, I just noticed that some guys here are civil enough to admit their mistakes, or are intelligent enough to realize and call attention to misplaced arguments and blurbs. Don’t we have a common ground for debate (Gloria and her evil deeds)? The other thread of Ellen shows one nut attacking everybody and proclaiming that he is know-it-all person. I suspect he is a paid lackey from Malacanan who sows chaos and intrigue in this blog. Kunwari anti-Gloria siya. Sayang, meron pa naman siyang magandang ideya sana, pero palabas lang yata o kopya lang din tulad ng kay gloria.
I was once in another blog (Batasan6) and this thing happened until the discussions just petered out. The bloggers began attacking one another, instead of handling the issues rationally. Alam ni Ddiego Guerrero yan, kasi andun din siya.
Ellen, could the discussions be moderated somehow? Nagiging labo-labo na kasi. Of course, we need opposition even among oppositors for a healthy debate. But if opposition goes stray and strikes at all directions, coherence is lost and so is the cause. Don’t you think so?
Norpil, you were a band member of what team? What school? Oh yea, the NCAA of yester years were awesome. The Ateneo-La Salle rivalry added color to the games every season. NCAA bagan to flop when the two schools left and joined UAAP. Carlos Loyzaga is now residing in Australia…many years now. Yes, I was too young to remember him….but who would not know this great player. There were also many good players in his time including the bad boys like Badion.
Thanks Hawaiianguy. Yes, I would like to think that we’re all civil here. It’s just some people like to overpower the others with their arrogant behavior and combative style.
For instance, nelbar just expressed some opinion about the billboard and he was harshly refuted by this person who claims to know it all. This has been going on for a long time. Comments that run counter with this person, unless you’re in her group, get some bad reactions. And you’re right, I think Ellen is too tolerant. As a person and journalist, I salute her. But as a moderator of a blog like this, I don’t know.
npongco: i graduated from mapua, not known for good basketplayers but at least for good engineers.somebody told me in this blog that they are also changing its name.. are you from la salle?
hawaiaianguy: i like to think that i am also civil, at least trying. it is quite easy for me to admit my mistakes and as easy to say sorry. i think i understand npongco’s predicament but as he also said once, life is too short to waste in such.
Norpil and Npongco, you are ok. I found your postings sensible and civil, unlike some guys around here who brag around with the little knowledge they know, as if they are infallible. I will not mention names, just read them here or elsewhere in the other threads of Ellen.
Looks like the saying “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing” is true. Claiming to have learned philosophy, economics or whatever without assimilating what it means only betrays one’s folly. It’s like going to school, but not getting educated. The way they criticize others here with flawed logic, and overflowing grammatical errors, also makes thing funnier. (Huwag na lang mag English kung ganyang ang subject at predicate lang ay hindi pa magkatugma. Tagalugin na lang, nakakahiya tuloy. Kala ng iba, ganyan lahat tayong pinoy.)
This brings me to a point I raised, which I want recapitulated for emphasis and reflection. Isn’t this blog for a critical analysis of RP issues? esp. about Gloria’s mismanagement, shrouded regime, fakery, corruption, and all those evils that set back the country?
Didn’t Ellen organize this to elicit strategies for the return of democracy and civil society in the Philippines? I think the debate should center around these issues, not on Bush or whoever, unless this is germane to the discussion.
HAWAIIANGUY: May mga characters dito sa blog na ito na malakas ang anti-Bush, if not anti-USA sentiment. Kahit na sa palagay mo at ng iba na walang koneksyon ang topic, napapasingit pa rin ang pagbatikos kay GWB. Para bang malaking biyaya sa mundo kung mawawala ang USA sa balat ng lupa or at least masapawan ng mga kalaban.
Tungkol naman dun sa mga miembro ng “grammar/spelling police,” mahirap talagang maging perfect ang postings in terms of spelling and grammar, kasi karamihan nagmamadali sa pag-click ng “Submit Comment” button. Kung ang ating magiting na host nga meron pa ring typos paminsan-minsan, ang mga ordinaryong posters pa kaya ang maka-perfect? Mahirap talaga yang mang-korek ng iba, dahil babalik at babalik din sa yo.
Tom, I know what you mean. Napansin ko nga. Yung galit nila kay Gloria napupunta dun sa halos lahat ng lider, kasama si Bush. Ang napupuna ko lang na taliwas, panay ang banat nila hindi lang kay Bush pati sa America. Pero andito naman sila sa USA at gustong-gusto manirahan habang buhay. Di ba yan yung sinasabi sa ating pinoy na “tulak ng bibig, kabig ng dibdib”? (Yung napasaringan, huwag lang magagalit, hane? Kasali rin ako dito dahil andito ako.)
Yung sa grammar, hindi ko naman pinupuna lahat, dun lang sa magaling magbatikos sa kapwa nila bloggers dito pero hindi nakikita may uling din sila sa ilong. Pa english-english pa mandin, mali naman ang grammar. Kung unintentional mistake, ok lang yun sa akin, gaya ng nasabi mo – na sa mabilisang pag click ng Submit Comment button, meron pang naiwang typo. Hindi naman tayo perfectionist, at walang perfect writer. Pero yung iba diyang mahilig magpuna banat ng banat, kala mo ang gagaling nila talaga at sila lang ang tama. Pinoy nga naman, kahit saan, payabangan. Kaya dito sa labas ng bansa, yan ang reputation sa atin. Sabi nila: How come Pinoys are smart? But your country remains poor, and your leaders are corrupt.
Tom, i agree with you. Kesa mali ang spelling o maling grammar ang importante naiintindihan ang ibig sabihin. Nasa nagbabasa iyon. Ang issue na lang ang ating intindihin. Some naturally english speaking people are even worst in both spelling and grammar, but who cares. (Just go to some foreign forums to see.)It is really nothing to be ashamed of. Let us be more ashamed of what the Phil has become – the Bastusan Republic.
Tom & hawaiianguy:
pwedeng bang malaman dito , na kung dyan sa lugar ninyo ay pagnawalan kayo ng trabaho sinusuportahan kayo ng gobyerno?
nagtatanong lang?
sa tono kasi ng mga posting nyo akala nyo nakakailang baytang na kayo ng hagdan?
sa totoo lang sa tingin ko sa inyo: hindi nyo pa kayang dumakot ng lupa
kaya huwag kayong magmagaling dito!
NAGPAPAKA-PINOY KA PA LANG , TAGALOG NA AKO!
may kasabihan nga tayo:
daig ng maagap ang masipag!
kami ang magluluto kayo ang kakain
ibig sabihin, magaling lang kayo kapag nakahanda na ang pagkain sa mesa
…at kami pa rin ang maghuhugas at magliligpit ng inyong pinagkainan
nelbar: Mawalang-galang na nga. Ano ba yung sinasabi mo sa itaas na pagmamagaling ko?
nelbar, ngayon lang tayo nagka eskrima, tinitira mo na agad ako na nakatalikod. hmmmm. foul yata yun, at saka hindi ko pa nabasa ang mga postings mo, ngayon lang, nang pinukol mo ako ng bato. ni hindi pa nga kita nakabangga. ano ba ang galit mo kay Tom o sa akin?
wala akong gustong ipagyabang na nakailang baytang na ako. sumagot lang ako dun sa mga tuligsa na pakaliwa, hindi sa iyo. at para malaman mo, sanay ako sa lupa. magsasaka ako at yun ang puhunan ko sa pag aaral. hanggang ngayon, isang kahig-isang tuka pa rin ako. kayod ng kayod (siguro tulad mo) pero ang pinagpawisan ko ay iba ang nakikinabang – yung mga demonyong nakatira sa malacanan at mga alipores nila na sanay lang mamuhay sa buktot na pamamaraan. umaasa lang sa kawawang kababayan, lalot-lalo na sa mga OFWs. so, ano say mo? OFW ka ba?
Ang bigat talaga ng dating mo, nelbar. Gaya ni hawaiianguy, hindi naman ako nakikipag-debate sa yo. Ni wala akong pangalan ng posters na binanggit, maliban kay hawaiianguy sa mga postings ko dito at sa dalawa pang threads dito. Ano ang ibig mong sabihin sa “nagpapaka-pinoy ka pa lang, tagalog na ako!”? Achaka yung “hindi nyo pa kayang dumakot ng lupa”? Achaka yung “kami ang magluluto kayo ang kakain”? Achaka yung “magaling lang kayo kapag nakahanda na ang pagkain sa mesa”?
I recalled Ms Tordesillas reminded us all a little while ago that her Blog is open to all commentaries and all kinds of opinions and views and thoughts, sans ad hominens and personal insults and personal criticisms; grammar and spelling mistakes, languages deficiencies included. Now, for those who are not satisfied with the sophistication of the participants of this forum, there are thousands of blogs that are highly intellectuals in nature that can make use of your thoughts and views.
There are some of us commenters of this Blog, that when we submitted our profile to the administrator, we gave our location and the tone and perspective of our comment as to reflect our experience and observation in our land as compared to the political landscape in the Philippines, thus comparison is not unavoidable. Some of us are dual citizens, and we believe that we are bound to still get involve politically and socially with both our countries in whatever way we can.
Thank you all..
Hwaiianguy, you asked why when we attack this GMA it travels to Bush? Of course it does. These two have so many things in common. Take note of their policies domestically and internationally. Most of all, the two are liars and cheaters.
Vic,
I assume that you live in USA and is now a dual citizen? The more I feel the need to get involved in Philippine affairs because I’m a citizen of that country. My love goes for the Philippines, not for USA or any other country. It pains me a lot to hear the ways Gloria and company wreck RP, gives me and you a blackeye even if we are not part of it.
Kailangan maging maingat na tayo sa pag post dito dahil mayroon ng pumapapel na police para mag-check ng grammar at spelling. Parang professor ng English ang dating, kaya ako kahit na may kaunting English na alam iiwasan ko na baka mapagdiskitahan ni Professor. Aywan kung bakit kailangan pa nating gumamit ng complete sentence, agreement ng subject and predicate, etc. Nasa blogging ka iho, hindi tayo gumagawa na thesis o kaya hindi tayo mga journalist na maging perfect. gumamit ka ng phrase, clause, o kaya isa o dalawang word, Ok na basta nasabi mo ang gusto mo, at nasa nagbabasa na yon. Ang mahalaga may sense yong sinasabi mo at hindi yong puna ka na lang ng puna sa mga ibang blogger, tuloy nawawala ka dahil ang tinitira mo ay yong poster at hindi yong laman ng comment nila. Kung ayaw mo ang comment, di sagutin mo, di ba ganoon lang ang tama? Sabi nga ni kitamokitako, and I quote:
“Kesa mali ang spelling o maling grammar ang importante naiintindihan ang ibig sabihin. Nasa nagbabasa iyon. Ang issue na lang ang ating intindihin. Some naturally english speaking people are even worst in both spelling and grammar, but who cares. (Just go to some foreign forums to see.)It is really nothing to be ashamed of. Let us be more ashamed of what the Phil has become – the Bastusan Republic.”
Kaya itong si Professor, mahilig ka rin lang mag-check at mag-police, bakit hindi ka na lang magturo ng English, sigurado marami kang ma-co-correct dahil kahit na sa mga natural born hawaiian o kaya American marami pa rin silang mga maling spelling and grammar. Sila nga nagkakamali, Pilipino pa kaya, di ba Mr. Perfect?
vic posting on “October 3rd, 2006 at 10:15 am”
maraming salamat at naunawaan mo ako
samalat kabansa mula sa PANAY
samalat …. salamat
excuse me
Teka, nalilito na talaga ako. florry: Sino ba yung tinutukoy mong Professor? belnar: Hinihintay ko pa rin yung sagot mo sa mga tanong ko.
Sorry, nelbar pala.
Tom and hawaiianguy pasensya na sa pagsabat ko sa usapan ninyo ni Nelbar….in fairness with the latter, ok naman siya…maybe the 3 of you just got off on the wrong foot so to speak. Like one of us commented here, I forgot who…iisa lang naman ang adhikain nating lahat dito, yun ay ang tuklasin, maiparating, mapag-usapan, at mahatulan kahit dito man lang ang lahat ng KABUKTUTAN na pinaggagagawa ni gloria. Yup, sometimes arguements even among “teamates” are inevitable, but such events would make forums like this livelier and more fruitful, puwera personal na atake lang by using terms, words, or comments like…”mga bugok”, “mga hunghang”, etc. like what characters like Jun, Anthony Scalia, Bentong, would always resort into kapag nasusukol na sila…kasi nga, ang kanilang only agenda is “to pick a fight”.
regarding dun sa mga nangongorek, I have a personal experience with ruffyb…handle yun ni Congressman Ruffy Biazon..we had a good “arguements” in two threads here that he got “obliged” due to his SENSITIVITY to the issues involved…aba’y bigla ba naman akong sabihan na “bawas-bawasan ko daw ang pag-gamit ng quotation marks” sa mga comments ko….hello??? I got my own reason(s) for using and maybe abusing the quotation marks…pero ang bottomline, bigla na lamang iyon ang ipinasok ng “magaling” na mambabatas mula sa Muntinlupa…kaya tinanong ko siya kung nagte-tex ba siya ay hindi ba niya sino-short cut ang mga messages niya? HINDI DAW…kasi daw he makes it a point na turuan even his children ng tamang grammar kahit sa tex messaging…galing nang sagot, siya kasi maraming load sa cellphone niya…hehehe.
Now, please….sana lang wala nang bangayan dito…nawawala talaga tayong lahat sa issues. At siyempre kapag na-monitor ng mga “kampon” ni gloria ang nangyayari sa forum na ito ni Ma’m Ellen….tuwang-tuwa ang mga iyon, dahil me maipapakita silang “accomplishments” nila, ika nga sulit ang ibinabayad sa kanila…hehehe 😉
florry, I think you got me wrong here. I won’t be offended, it’s me you are attacking for the “grammar” issue raised here. If you mind reviewing the history of that “debate” or “argument” you will notice that it’s a response to a mudrack hurled at me, as if they are immaculately clean and knows everything. (“Yung sa grammar, hindi ko naman pinupuna lahat, dun lang sa magaling magbatikos sa kapwa nila bloggers dito pero hindi nakikita may uling din sila sa ilong.”) Please read the postings carefully and see the whole context rather than the parts. Then, you are free to make your judgment and I will respect that. But like the others, I would expect that you also avoid ad hominems, being an intellectual that I think you are.
Her Excellency Madam President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo,
Madam,
I am sorry for all the tirades I have said before against you and your administration as well as your cabinet members for reasons I was then not able to understand your real stand on issues concerning our country and people. I t was a lapse of judgment. I was carried by my emotions for not realizing the programs you were laying for the benefit of the poor, the neglected and the unprivileged. I knew you were sincere and doing all the best you can to unite the whole Pilipino people whom you dream of living in the highest standard before you relinquish your office.
Madam President, I am sorry, I was blinded by unfounded accusations against you, the First Gentleman and your cabinet members by prominent persons I thought were really for the good of the society, but they were not able to convince me later and had decided to give you the fair chance to prove your worth as the duly elected president of the republic. I will not let myself be used as a tool of your ouster. I will support any program your administration shall propose I know will uplift and push the economy forward. I will abide by any decree your office shall issue promoting reconciliation, peace, prosperity and equality and adhere to laws that will pave the way for the mutual cohesion among all levels of the society.
Mahal naming Pangulo, alam kong hindi magiging madali para sa iyo upang makamit sa lalong madaling panahon ang mga mithiing ito sapagkat napakaraming mga dapat unang pagtuunan ng pansin at kinakailangang ang bawat mamamayang Pilipino ay magkaroon ng bahagi upang maisulong ang mga programang pangkagalingan, pangkapayapaan at pangkabuhayan kaya unang una na akong tumatayo upang magboluntad at tumulong sa iyong administrasyon mangahulugan man ito ng pagbatikos mula sa mga dati kong kasamahan. Uunahin ko ang paglilingkod kasama mo para sa ating bayan.
Bilang isang community leader dito sa bansang aking kinalalagyan, hihikayatin ko ang ating mga kababayan upang isaisangtabi at kalimutan na ang kanilang pagdududa sa iyong kakayahan. Magkakaisa at magkakatuwang kaming susuportahan ang iyong mga programa, mungkahi at panawagan upang sa gayon ay magkaroon ng isang matibay na sandigan upang maipalaganap ang tunay na diwa ng pagkakaisang malaon mo nang pinapangarap. Isusulong namin ang pagtutulungan, pagdadamayan, pagtalima sa mga batas at kautusan at pagbibigay kahalagahan sa iyong mga adhikain.
Umasa ka, Mahal naming Pangulo, gagawin naming makabuluhan ang bawat mong panawagan. Walang pasubaling aming susundin ang lahat mong programang nauukol sa pambansang kagalingan at umaasa rin kami na hindi mo bibiguin ang aming inaasaahang matapat mong paglilingkod sa ating bayan.
Maraming salam… Aray! Aray! Ang daming surot! Ang dami kong kagat! Naku! Panay surot pala ang kutson ko!
Sori, mydamn president, pati surot tutol sa mga pagkukunwari mo. Mabuti pa pala ang mga surot, mayroong kunsensiyang nagbibigay paalala kung ano ang tama at alin ang mali!
😀 😀 😀 @Mrivera
Mrivera, galing ng “pasakalye” mo sa umpisa, kala ko talagang “na-convert” ka na…LOL….LOL
muntik na akong matakot na baka dinukot ka at “na-brainwash” sa pamamagitan ng “torture” ni palparan…hehehe oks banat mo kabayan…hehehe
spartan, hindi mangyayaring mai-torture ako ni general palparan dahil alam niyang wala akong gagawing makasisira sa aming sinumpaang tungkulin noong magkakasama pa kami. Sa kanya ako nag-aalala dahil naging matunog siyang tawaging “the butcher” nitong panahon na lamang ni gloria. sinasakyan ni mydamn president ang kanyang mga accomplishment. nadamay tuloy siya sa mga maling akusasyon dahil sa pang-aagaw eksena ng nanay ng kulog.
hawaiianguy, just got home from work and I came accross your comments asking me where I live. I’m live in scarborough, now part of Toronto and been a resident of Toronto since ’75. I also maintain a residence in Brookside Hill, Cainta and in my Hometown in Alimodian, Iloilo. And since when I took my oath of citizenship,(Canada)I did not renounce my Filipino Citizenship it automatically makes me a dual citizens by virtue that Canada allows multiple citizenships and the Philippines allows its natural born citizens to keep theirs. Just like every natural born Filipino, we can be anywhere, but we can never be anything but Filipinos. Thanks..
Vic, thanks. I thought you were no longer a Filipino, like the others who have renounced this identity. I like the last line you wrote. Unlike you, am still a Filipino citizen though living in a foreign land.
As a beginner in this blog, I now realize that pinoys here represent (or come from) different countries.
got your point Mrivera…it’s his fault(palparan) for allowing gloria to “use” him as a “tool”…he could have resigned anytime if he really was not “comfortable” with what “the dwarf” is ordering her to do…but I think that same word “comfortable” must have been the real reason palparan “stuck it out” with “evil lola” in the palace. 😉
spartan, kung hindi mo gusto ang sistema at tatalikod ka sa sinumpaan mong tungkulin, paano mo naman maisasakatuparan ang iyong mga nasimulan? ganyan ang prinsipyo ni general palparan. ikumpara mo siya sa mga heneral na identified kay gloria, meron ba tayong masasabi na naging kasangkapan siya mulang agawin ni mydamn president ang malakanyang hanggang nitong gaguhin niya ang buong sambayanan noong nakaraang eleksiyon? general palparan earned his stars through his sheer determination in successfully accomplishing his missions. he never put a finger in the dirty political arena only to be recognized by the fake leadership of gloria. ‘yun nga, tulad ng mga sinabi ko sa mga nauna kong posts, sumikat si general palparan sa panahon ng isang maling administrasyon. tama ang kanyang mga hakbang na ginawa na “sinakyan” naman ng manggagamit na pangulo (daw) ng bansa.
Welcome, Sniper.
As you may have read in the new postings, so many things happened to me related to Milenyo.It’s only now thatI’m little by little going over the comments.
Anyway, thanks for joining us.
Ellen.
Thanks, I hope I can contribute something worthy.
And You’re very welcome too.
Does this mean that Sniper and florry are one and the same? Just curious.
Re Tom’s “Does this mean that Sniper and florry are one and the same? Just curious.”
Are Sniper and Florry one and the same?
Curious?
Sniper is the husband who is in New York.
Florry is the wife who is in Toronto. Sniper went to Toronto yesterday to pick up Florry the wife and used her laptop forgetting to log on to his user’s name. Ellen was informed about this. Is there something wrong if a husband and wife were into the same blog? Anyway Sniper just registered a week ago and if he is not welcome, he can just stop logging in. He don’t have any problem with that.
Anna & Tom:
I also would be interested to know if one and the other are the same person. I got comments from sniper at one time and from florry in my travel to this blog. I did respond to their comments, yet never heard from either. Curiosity just taken me, and really it doesn’t matter one way or the other. My main concern isn’t the name but the messages in substance. So, sniper and/or florry would you care to respond. It would be much appreciated. Many thanks!
And if I may add, Just wanted to join in the fun, and the wife, Florry doesn’t even know that Sniper who registered just last week is the husband. As I said Sniper is based in NY and Florry is Toronto. What more can I say?
Toney, I don’t remember commenting on you. What I said “Bush is blaming Clinton on the Bin Ladin problem”. If Florry made a comment on you, that’s her own ideas. In my three or more postings, I never complimented Florry on her comments. She has her own ideas and I have mine. And besides, as I have been saying, she doesn’t know about Sniper until yesterday.
sniper:
Thanks for getting back to me. It I was mistaken, I offer you my apology. And I considerd this matter closed.
Sniper, just a small comment that I hope you will let pass. I also thought that you were one and the same person when you and florry ganged up on me. No offense meant. Anyway, your posting amuses me now – husband and wife blogging here without the other knowing it.
Oh! OK! I get it…
I think the idea of a husband and wife team is swell!
Congratulations to you both.
Hope to be seeing more of you both. I appreciate Florry’s comments a great deal and I personally am happy to make Sniper’s acquaintance in this blog.
Have fun guys…
Sorry if I “opened up a can of” something. For the record, I don’t think anything is wrong with one person using more than one username in this blog–not for me to decide what’s right since this is Ellen’s blog. In at least one other forum I visited before, the posters’ IP addresses are posted with their username. In that forum there were suspicions of certain people using more than one username altough the IP addresses seem to betray their trickery. But that’s because some who resort to that appear to be maliciously perpetrating the deception in order to “win” blog arguments. Not having even thought of a husband and wife scenario, I could only think of a multiple username situation as the logical explanation for florry’s 9:51 post in apparent response to Ellen’s 6:03. I do remember adb having problems logging in here at one time so she used a different username which she readily identified. Seemed perfectly alright. Thanks for the explanation, anyway. Not that I needed one. End of story for me.
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“Marami sa Hawaii ang ganito ang trabaho. Ang tawag diyan Hawianguys.”
Another swipe. But I can take your diatribe, artsee.
she doesnt have the claws and cant fight a worth