Bastusan Republic

Ang masasabi ko lang ay ito: Sobra na talaga sa kapal. Ang kapal ng apog! (Hindi lang bastos, kapalmuk pa.)

ASSperon should be sent to jail where he belongs. There, he should rot like hell. He does not deserve an iota of promotion to high heavens from 2 to 4-star general. He is second to the best model of electoral cheating. No wonder, bad people find solace in the company of their kind. The super cheat (GMA) is but happy to promote another great cheat (ASSperon), who both enjoy the perks that their scandalous positions offer.

Yeah, many people in RP (ask the Lower House of Congress) would tell you that. The bansot will be there until 2010, or only God knows when.

norpil at mrivera,

correct! hwag palitan ang sistema, ang mga bulok na pulitiko ang palitan. kaya mag register na kayo as absentee voters (kung hindi pa ninyo nagawa) para iboto natin ang tamang kandidato sa 2007 at 2010.

alam ko na kung sino ang hindi ko iboboto. basta tao ni pandak, talsik na sa akin yan, tulad ni brenda. sayang, binoto ko pa naman siya noong last election. isa pa yan na hunyango. noong una, siya mismo ang panay ang kutya kay unano. natandaan ko pa yung isang TV footage niya ng sabihin niya ito: “ano kaya kung ang maglaban (sa presidential election) ay si panday at si pandak?” tapos sabay bunghalit ng tawa, na iniinsulto niya yung pandak, dahil maka FPJ siya noon. pero nagbago ang ihip ng hangin noong manalo (kuno) si pandak at nabigyan ng magandang puwesto ang asawa ni brenda, at nagsimula na rin maging sipsip sa malacanan.

I think our energies should be focused on the proposition started out in this blog, which I put this way: that pandak’s administration is fake, evil, corrupt.

In RP, the problem with the opposition is that their efforts are scattered and not unified.

We’d be better off singling out the one and only source of all political and social problems there if we agree that gloria’s shrouded and prostituted regime is the mess that we should get rid of. Kick her her out by all means – people power, election, etc. The method doesn’t matter, she should go NOW.

I don’t like Bush either, but he is a lot better for America than gloria is for the Philippines. Bush is elected fairly and is not motivated by personal interest and greed. If he terrorizes the world, that’s because he wants to pre-empt the Islamic terrorists who want to destroy America. Gloria is an illegitimate president who terrorizes and oppresses her own people with the likes of Palparan, Lomibao, the 2 Gonzalezes, Ermita and all those utak-pulbura generals who are well-placed in government after their military stint (Reyes, Ebdane, Mendoza, Cunanan, Cimato, etc.).

Need I say more?

Am no Bush admirer, and will not go all out defending him from attack. I know that America is hated all over, and that many things identified with it are equally hateful and dismaying. As a student of social science, I have seen hypocrisy in the way ideals of American brand of democracy and politics are practiced.

But let it be known that certain things happen here that make people live better, are more comfortable, and move around without fear or risk to their lives and property. Journalists, leftists and other oppositionists are always free to criticize Bush and his government. No one gets killed for his/her ideas, no matter how silly or hurting. Lawmakers still get their perks without hassle, and are not intidimated by libel suits or being called “destabilizers” and “enemeies of the state.” McArthyism and communism are ideas that died naturally, because there are better ones that keep the marketplace of ideas alive.

Not like in the Philippines under gloria, where criticism and debate are discouraged, intimidated and even killed outright. Make no mistake about it, the Philippines is a nation at risk. Critics, oppositionists, progressives, and others who are anti-government are all the same in the eys of RP’s fake president: destabilizers, enemies of the state, commies, saboteurs. Gloria did and will do everything to silence them and keep herself perpetually in power. Even at the cost of prostituting all institutions that mark off a civilized, sane society from savages and scoundrels.

Democracy? Rule of law? Strong Republic? RP a 1st world country in 20 years? Tell them to the marines!

Npongco, I have read that incident in Florida where George narrowly got the votes to propel him to the presidency. But Americans never charged him or the elections office for fraud, nor was there any effort to recall the election results. Unlike in Gloria’s case, where the “hello Garci” or the anomalous “dagdag-bawas” and brazen manipulation by comelec became the core of the impeachment complaints. US election officials are not tainted by that stigma perennially attached to us pinoys. The chief election officer here in Hawaii, who is a classmate of mine, has always acted independently and without any bias, unlike our Abalos, Garci, and others whose canine devotion to Gloria is unmistakable.

Florry, I believe Bush won the election, although narrowly. Hawaii voters always go for Democrats, and Bush lost here miserably. But I don’t give a damn whether Bush wins or loses. Analysts say his re-election after the 9/11 only indicates that he got the mandate to rule. (Gloria never had that record. Twice, she became president by deceit and foul play.) Am not a voter here in the first place, or if I were, I would go democratic and junk Bush or his annointed candidate.

Overall, am most keenly interested in Philippine politics. I felt sad that in the 2004 RP elections, the vote I cast (surely, not for Gloria) as an absentee voter was probably counted toward Gloria’s, judging from the fact that the comelec tally indicated more votes cast than those who registered as absentee voters. Isn’t that funny? I thought this thing only happened in places like Mindanao. Those cheats have the nerve to do that, even for absentee voters. Which is why I firmly believe that elections in the Philippines under Gloria will always be farcical and can never be clean.

josephs,

Now people know what kind of person you are. So, you know everything? Quoting oneself (“to quote myself on Sept 16-17 blah blah”) reflects the personality you level against others. You admitted calling that personality delusional, delusion of grandeur!

Just to put into perspective the sense of what I just said, somewhere was posted the Batasan6 blog. I participated in the spirited debates there (Diego Guerrero, are you still here?) and engaged some guys whose fascination is to talk nonsense, and are likely Gloria apologists (or pakawala ng Malacanan), because they just repeat the familiar Gloria lies and Machiavellian tactics. But some are clever to camouflage themselves, masquerading initially as anti-Gloria but in their attacks they betray the flawed logic they share with her.

Some debaters (those opposed to the Batasan6), whom I and others spoke for, ran out of ideas and simply hit everyone in sight with foul language and hurled them shit in their faces. Some even descended to the lowest level, challenging the “lefties” to fistfights, and called those from the other side (myself included) as “commies.”

Looks like it is about to happen again. I hope not.

Anthony,

“All bloggers here are so passionate in their love of GMA that nothing can put away that affection.” Is this a pun? or a slip of the pen?

I agree, use of ad hominems does not and should never have a place in rational discussions. It is the refuge of people who have nothing more substantive to say. I received them from some people in this blog, and I wonder why. Debating is a healthy mental exercise, a learning experience, except for those who refuse to heed reason, and by any indication are irrational. But it’s a pity when some could not even understand, and would hurl vindictives at you at the first opportunity, when you have nothing to do with them, or when they simply don’t like your ideas.

Yeah, opinions in debates should come from all shades – pro or con, not only opposition among oppositions. But if the latter prevails, and mudracking fills the air, then the cause of opposition is lost, like what’s happening in RP. They can’t even put their acts together, so how can they oust Gloria? Some say impeach, others favor resign, and still others argue oust. I think any or all these alternatives are good and viable, provided the oppositors are not obsessed with their own project, as if that’s the best strategy. Now, Gloria is laughing with her heart out. And she delights with the fact that the opposition is not only divided but is also quarreling within, instead of helping one another. I pity Cayetano after that daring act of doing solo in the impeachment attempt. He has realized that he was all by himself, with only Escudero and a few others, instead of the 50 or so allies last year, patting him on the back.

Toney,

“….it tells me they’ve no respect for a life, only the 72 virgins waiting for them.”

Seems to me you are biased against Muslims. You mentioned 72 virgins twice in this thread. Aren’t you?

Those who recall the incident this year, the publication of the cartoons (of the virgins in heaven running out, but waiting for suicide bombers, and of Prophet Mohammed) in Denmark caused untold destruction of western embassies (Denmark, USA, etc.) in Europe. Muslim sensibility was offended, and reacted violently against those who espoused or supported the publication of what seemed to westerners as an exercise of press freedom.

ooops, sorry. May I add “…western embassies (particularly Denmark)in Europe and Middle East.” [baka mapansin ng mga critics at punahin na mali-mali din ako. madalas din naman ang aking typos at lapse of judgment]

Anthony,

The cheating by Gloria and her operators happened in both directions, increasing her winning margin included. At least, based on sources of evidence that I personally know about, and I can vouch for their correctness. I have not seen the documents myself, but I trust the testimony of those primary actors involved in the cheating game, having known some of them personally. What I hear from other primary (or even secondary sources) also offer validation or confirmation of the likelihood of tampering. Here is a part of the evidence:

1. In Tawi-Tawi, the number of votes cast exceeded the number of registered by almost 100% according to Sen John Osmena. (Many towns and provinces are replicas.) We now know the story, Comelec and even the Senate Committee refused to allow scrutiny of the possible mismatch betweeen the ERs and the COCs. As expected, Gloria “won,” by railroading or by other foul means. This is a case of increasing the margin of victory, according to Garci’s recorded statement (“pipilitin po natin, ma’am”)

2. In many towns in the two Lanao provinces, FPJ votes were, holly cow, unbelievably zero! But many voters and officials there testified that FPJ won, and that they in fact voted for him. No less than the provincial NAMFREL officer testified on this “dagdag-bawas” scheme. Mehol Sadain, retired COMELEC commissioner, also said that, as a Muslim, he sensed by heart that FPJ won among Muslims, who idolized him because of his portrayal of Muslims as heroes (I think one such film is Magnum 45?) rather than as bandits. He knew that his friends and relatives voted for him rather than for GMA. How come he lost in those places? Is this not a case of changing the outcome?

And oh, by the way, I know many of those local operators of Mike A. and Garci, who received bags of money to make miracles happen. They admitted to close confidants, in private chats, that they did it for easy money, and that they had no choice.

Move on with life after the fraud? I don’t think those severely affected by it will forget, or forgive, the incident. Americans who are not as passionate or attached to voting can easily do that, but not Filipinos with a unique political culture based on patron-client relations, and nurtured by violence.

Josephs,

Now that you invited me, I will respond to you. Since you are more civil now, you deserve it. First, what made you conclude that I am Poli Sci, as you keep on harping? I never said or admitted that I am, unlike Gloria who parades to the world her being an economist, and unlike you who tell everybody around about your having taken philosophy courses, which you proudly use to engage others in a debate.

As you and I know, false premises are bad to start with. They often (if not always)lead to a wrong conclusion. Thus, syllogism is flawed.

Second, you seem to be fixated or obsessed with politics, US or otherwise, to prove to everybody that you are better, while others are ignorant, stupid or delusional. Wasn’t that your point before?

Third, you are keen on using tabooed words that repel decent conversation among professionals. In arguments, you can’t win by this strategy. I notice that you have called almost everybody names, relishing on your ad hominems as if those words make you great.

Finally, there is no poli sci class to bring your stuff about, and even if I had one, I won’t. My class will probably dismiss it as nonsensical.

I’d like to do your bidding if I had time. Since you are now polite, I will let go of your grammatical problem to make you happy about it. Looks like you got some ideas, although they tend to stray in many directions. Sorry to say that, but I miss the better part of your arguments because of this. That’s my honest assessment of what you have been telling people you want to spar with. Anthony tells you exactly that, because you seem to insist on wrong premises, and that almost everytime you start an argument, you end up with an insult or invective.

Maybe we can both learn from the Chinese maxim. “Less talk, less mistake. No talk, no mistake.”

folks, sorry for the double posting. I dont know why.

Thanks vic. so he may not be that great after all.

I’m still waiting for Nelbar’s reply.

Gawad Kalinga (GK) has done its part as a private initiative, a good model for other groups despite the country’s mounting political crisis. I was a member of a religious group in Mindanao that worked with it, helping put up modest houses for the poor. In the city where we worked, close to a hundred poor families got roofs over their heads, and more are still coming.

I learned that the government initially gave P50 million as contribution to GK to advance the cause of this program, which is no doubt pro-poor and anti-poverty. Am not sure if such govt. support continued after I left.

GK and all those private initiatives, I believe, should be commended. GK and our group are still there, surviving on contributions from philantrophic individuals and working in synergy with others like Carter’s Habitat. Private that they are, they have managed to hang on – Gloria or no Glooria, notwithstanding.

Match this with another private (or people’s) initiative like Lambino’s Sigaw ng Bayan. I just can’t understand why the government under Gloria, whose program includes as top priority the “alleviation of the poor”, will go all out, financing Lambino’s expensive (and I believe, fruitless) program, whose obvious aim is to perpetuate many of the oligarchs who are now entrenched in power and want to have more. All the fanfare and publicity that charter change is “good” for the people, and all those political gimmicks (including denials that Lambino is receiving help from Malacanan) – mind you – are sickening, to say the least. Surely, not many people see it that way, or wouldn’t simply mind, because it’s none of their business.

Apparently, actions don’t match rhetorics. What Gloria says, she does otherwise. What Gloria wants, she gets. This is a most objectionable feature of Gloria’s shrouded government.

I can’t imagine how many more Filipinos in need, are homeless, and wanting to survive will enjoy, if only a small fraction of what the government lavishly spends now for “People’s” Initiative will be donated to Gawad instead, or to other worthy private efforts.

But from what I see, to Gloria and her minions, this is a peripheral concern. The most important thing to do now is to fix a government (one that “ain’t broke,” as Toney says), to push the economy forward (by creating supermaids/super-atsoys/superregions, motivating more OFWs,etc.), blah blah. Need we say more?

On another thought, I remember: why can’t Gloria do a Nixon? His sins will pale in comparison with Gloria’s.