This is Malaya’s account of the egg-and- mud-pelting of AFP Chief Hermogenes Esperon at UP Friday.
What happened to Esperon is a form of “social boycott” that the citizens of this country, outraged by Gloria Arroyo and her minion’s blatant trampling of our democracy, are resorting to. It happened to Gloria Arroyo at the Cavite State University when Maria Theresa Pangilinan booed her during the commencement exercises. It happened again at the UP-PGH when students unfurled “Oust Gloria” banner when she inaugurated the Opthalmologic Center.
Esperon, like his master, Gloria Arroyo, must must grown callous or have become out-of-touch of the people that they thought with their powers they can run roughshod on the people’s sensitivities.
They are mistaken. People need to protect their “space”. As ordinary citizens know that we have no control on the situation in many parts of the country but there are places and environment that we inhabit and nurture because that is where we find validation the values we live by. We will not allow that to be invaded and violated by the presence of people who mock the values we cherish like Arroyo and Esperon.
U.P. Professor Randy David earlier elaborated on the concept of “social boycott”:
“What may begin as misgivings could evolve into an explicit resolve to avoid contact with persons who actively work for or who callously profit from the favors dispensed by this immoral and repressive regime. Such avoidance can ripen into open ostracism. This is the extreme form of assertion of the power of a moral community. Its effect is social isolation. It is the consumers’ boycott in the realm of social relations.”
Let’s do this more often.
ARMED Forces chief Gen. Hermogenes Esperon yesterday was hit twice in the back by eggs hurled by protesters at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City, where he spoke at a forum organized by political science students.
His pants were also soiled with mud thrown by the student-protesters numbering about 20.
Esperon was attacked around 5 p.m. as he was going out of the Pulungang Claro M. Recto, where the forum organized by the Association of Political Science Majors was held, said Lt. Col. Bartolome Bacarro, chief of the AFP’s public information office.
The forum’s theme was “Untamed conflict and arrested development: Finding a way out of the vicious cycle.”
A video taken by military cameramen showed Esperon, all smiles, waving to the protesters as he got out of the hall.
The protesters were chanting “pasistang militar, singilin, singilin!” when they threw eggs and mud at Esperon.
Esperon’s escorts whisked him out of the area. They did not take any action or draw any firearm against the protesters, Bacarro said.
“Siguro yung mga nambato galit sa akin dahil hindi ako nagku-coup at ang AFP,” Bacarro quoted Esperon as saying in jest.
Esperon was tagged by Defense Secretary Avelino Cruz as “the poster boy for no coups in the Philippines.”
Bacarro said the students “should not shame UP as an institution.”
He said Esperon believes that UP is a place of civility.
“They should be good students,” Bacarro said. “If it is their way of growing up, he (Esperon) can’t imagine what they’ll turn into in the future…They should have honored the spirit of the forum.”
Bacarro said the AFP chief accepted the invitation of the political science students “to discuss concerns and issues under the spirit of academic freedom.”
He said Esperon believes the organizers of the forum had no hand in the attack.
He added Esperon is not thinking of filing charges against the protesters. – Victor Reyes
Wow!!! I could have done the same thing. Now I am very proud of my alma mater.
Me, too, Alitaptap! Medyo napaiyak ako when I saw the oblation!
No more UP gilagid, but truly UP beloved!
See what happens when the eyes of the word are watching. He had to refrain himself from doing something the administration will regret. Hehehe, now they are helpless against the people. Any wrong move they make would definitely hurt the pandak’s international image. They have to behave themselves from now on.
You bet, Schumey, but we can’t be complacent, because we are dealing with hardboiled criminals parading as officials of the Philippine government. Over there now, breaking the law as long as you can pay may no longer be a crime, but I have been brought up to uphold the law, and where I come from breaking the law is a crime.
BTW, I’m told that JdV is now in Canada trying to sell his ChaCha, and talking about a dateline. Perhaps, Vic can update us on this fishy visit.
I wonder if this crook has been offered some fiefdom in Pangasinan and hope he will be named Duke or Earl of Lingayen! Gosh, ang ganda nga namang pakinggan! Pero tignan mo naman ang mga pagmumukha!
Yuck! Pinagtatawanan ang itsura ng mga royalty sa Japan before, pero mas masama naman yata ang mukha nitong mga copycat royalty (kuno) ng Pilipinas that Spartan says are “lahing bugaw”! 😛
I’m on a train at the moment using my laptop on the way to work. Just thought I’d peep in. Ah, the progress of communication! Over here, you can connect in fact by just going near a hook up if you have a wireless, and it’s free. A friend, who is an IT bug, told me about this new gimmick!
Bakit mga itlog lang? Dapat doon mga BATO! At least he can feel kahit konti man lang ang sakit ng mga ginagawa nila sa ating mga kababayan.
More power to the UP students! Keep up the good work!
As expected… this is an overdue expression of disgust to this AFP shithead.
HURRAH to the UP students!
Another loose cannon .. Eltecol Bartolome Bacarro is talking nonsense…
People are expressing their anger… can’t you feel it?
GOTCHA!
Now, THAT my dears, is what I call GOOD NEWS!
Why do I find myself smiling?
As if nabuksan ang langit at suminag ang liwanag
kahit na maulap ang panahon dito…
hmmm?
I love UP and proud to belong! Keep up the good work, guys!
Sayang ang itlog! 😀
Sana naghakot na lang sila ng kaning-baboy galing sa canteen, para maramdaman ni esperon ang baho nya!
Better still, those from the murky river [to quote ystakei-san] by the Pasig! 🙄
Little Things vs Big Things
There are lessons to be learned from Mother Nature. She’s a great teacher and guide on how things operate in the universe. Here are nature’s lessons on patience, perseverance and determination. Indeed, little things can bring down big things.
The little beaver can fell a tree down.
The quiet termites can chew a house down.
A hive of bees can send the mighty lion scampering.
Waves can reduce rocks and boulders to sand.
The incessant tireless determined efforts of anti-Gloria individuals and groups both here and abroad are beginning to bear fruit. The battle has, indeed, already moved to international levels where Gloria’s power and influence are zilch. This is the battlefront she is most afraid of.
Aside from the Amnesty International, there are now lawyers’ groups based in the United States who have called on the US Congress to conduct an investigation of the alleged use of military funds from Washington by its local counterpart for political repression in the Philippines.
Civic and labor groups based in South Korea, for their part, have called on the Arroyo administration to solve the more than 750 extra-judicial killings in the Philippines.
This is the kind of battlefront where her Ermitas, Esperons, Palparans and Gonzalezes become impotent.
The Dark Fortress of the Pasig slowly but surely is being chewed down.
Kung kayo kaya ang nasa receiving end of eggs and mud.
Nagtataka pa ba kayo kung bakit the people are not out in the streets? Kung ganyan ang mga gawain ng mga gustong magpatalsik kay GMA (ganun na nga) eh talagang matu-turn off ang mga tao sa inyo.
Napakasuwerte naman ng mga nagsusulat for Malaya. Getting paid for editorializing. Kakainggit. It doesnt take much to do that, just let human nature get the best of you. Imagine, getting paid to cut people down to size.
Sus. Sigurado ba kayong UP students yung mga bumato? The pelting took place inside UP Diliman, yes, but whether the pelters were UP students is not known. For all we know, those pelters flunked the UPCAT.
kung isamang batuhin din kaya si siraulo g, mike defensor, pidal ng itlog at bulok na kamatis.
Cory by the sea, All:
Iyong itlog daw mga bulok at mabaho na hindi na makain! Kaya binato na lang kay Esperon! Yehey! Panay siguro ang tangna niya!
Ah, UP Beloved, the Alma Mater dear!
Bulok ba?
Lalong OKAY! At least that part na nabato sa loob ng campus, OK na…kahit konti man lang, at least, naiparating sa mga walanghiyang yan ang sentimiyento ng madla.
Ang sarap sana kung nakita pa natin!
Lalong masarap kung kahit na buhangin mapuwing man lang ang mata ng mga buwayang ganyan!
Sana, si gloria rin, may pumatid habang nakatingalang naglalakad sa harapan ng mga tao…..
Tingnan ko lang kung paanong magkakandarapang tumakas sa eksena ang mada-paka na yan.
AWWWWOOOOHHH!!!!!
Eggs and mud throwing was little harsh, so is the killing of over 700 Activists and Journalists. AFP Cheap Hemorrhoid Assperon perhaps deserve such treatment. I guess the protesters figured that Assperon was a pain on the butt. Incident was still a misdeameanor offense if we’ve to make a comparison with illegitimate Gloria’s regime in which Assperon included. They (Gloria’s people) don’t consider eggs as a weapon or mud to show dissatisfaction, yet they’ve these people riding in motorcycles with mask shooting innocent people and matter not the collateral damages to other citizens.
Eggs and mud are good for the soul! It kinda send a message to the Arroyos that how things are.
Next time Cheap Hemorrhoid Assperon start promoting all lies about illegitimate Gloria in public forum rather than of eggs and mud reception, offer Assperon the ROPE treatment instead that will surely shut him up for eternity.
it appears to me even up students are polarised, since according to the reports the throwing was done not by the same students who participated in the discussions which was not even heated but lively.throwing eggs is quite normal even here in norway against extreme nationalist parties but the problem is they just become more popular.for me this guy deserve harder things than eggs, but they could be imprisoned if they have done that.so far nobody is imprisoned yet in the pinas for throwing eggs or am i wrong again.
Not polarized. Never! During my college days, I would not join the rallies in front of the US Embassy not that I was afraid of being spotted and marked that my parents would worry about because they thought I was just a kid to be involved in politics. It did not mean I was not with them. There is no such thing as being polarized especially when you have friends being kidnapped and disappearing to Kingdom Come.
Some students cannot just find the time to be seen there! Please do not induce negativism in a very positive action as far as UPians are concerned. Over there, we are trained to be critical especially of a VERY corrupt government led by a criminal who thinks she is the law! Anti-establishment was the word used during my college days!!!
i am just reading reports from fil newspapers which says that there are those who are in the hall and those who are outside the hall where this guy tried to make contact.so there are those who are for and those who are strongly against, and those strongly against did not dare argue.this is what i call polarised.i have two brothers who graduated at up and they are also divided, one is for and one against.i do not induce negativism, just trying to argue based on the little things that drip in my small brain.to be critical is easy, it is to understand things that is difficult.
To norpil:
“to be critical is easy, it is to understand things that is difficult”
How true. That fact is lost on student activists. Yesterday’s activists are today’s stock brokers, investment bankers, members of the Establishment. Yesterday’s critics of capitalism are today’s champions of capitalism.
No doubt, if those who pelted Esperon (and almost all the posters here, except you of course), would be worse violators of civil liberties than GMA, would proclaim martial law in a heartbeat.
That’s the problem with most people, especially the youth – we only want freedom and rights, but not responsibilities.
anthony:i agree that some here would be worse violators of civil liberties judging from the language in use, but bear in mind that a lot use this forum to bent their anger and frustration on gma.as for capitalism, even the communists have become capitalists except for some others still on wait.
Re Norpil’s “anthony:i agree that some here would be worse violators of civil liberties judging from the language in use, but bear in mind that a lot use this forum to bent their anger and frustration on gma.”
Just like what Anthony is doing here – “anger and frustration on gma (?)” or on people here. But notice than nobody calls him “hunghang”. Can’t remember anymore but isn’t that a word that means “idiots” or something similar?
I don’t recall anyone calling Anthony moron or idiot in spite of his so very personalized “insults” against people here which include me.
Ellen’s blog to my mind is one of the real last bastions existing on Philippine net on freedom of speech.
I do hope Anthony Scalia appreciates that.
Yuko,
And even if the students were polarised against Esperon, what of it? Esperon is extremely lucky that he was only pelted with egg and mud.
It matters not whether students at UP are polarized. What matters is that the message is delivered to Esperon, loud and clear, and that will send a ripple effect to all of the poodles by ‘the murky river’.
It would actually be an anomaly if there is no polarization among UP students. The institution is the citadel of learning, and as such, there is always a ferment of ideas as a rule. No such thing as a monolithic dominance of any single idea but rather a pleasant dispersion of viewpoints and interpretations.
Absolutely, Alitaptap!
sorry anna if sometimes i become like others and became too engaged. i certainly appreciate that i can blog here.as for esperon, i agree he is lucky.i am against guns but i will not be against those who may want to use it on him.but what can one expect from esperon, gma has a team that is united with the help of money.nobody dared take power when she was away probabbly because all are satisfied.as for anthony, i have read most of his posts but i did not react since almost everybody is already.he is also talking sense about filipinos being too dependent on the govt.
Norpil,
I beg to disagree that “Filipinos are too dependent on the government.”
How can that be when there’s not a free universal health care system to cater to both rich and poor, and particularly to the poor?
That statement is kinda wild because, I don’t think that Filipinos have unemployment benefits or pension either when they lose their job.
How can we say that Filipinos are TOO dependent on government without batting an eyelash when we know full well that Filipinos cannot depend on their government for their basic survival?
I also find it’s difficult to say such encompassing statement when this government, Gloria’s government is the least of entities that Filipinos depend on!
Honestly, I believe the opposite, that’s why Filipinos are expatriating by the millions precisely because they DO NOT DEPEND and KNOW THEY CAN NOT be dependent on this government.
To me, “Filipinos are too dependent on the government.” is really not quite right because those basic premises are not present.
Allow me to put it more succintly:
To me, “Filipinos are too dependent on the government.” is really not quite right because the basic premises for dependence on government are NOT there…
Ana, you will notice that Ellen prefaced her commentary with the feat o Maria Theresa Pangilinan at Cavite State University and the UP-PGGH “oust gloria” banner. Now this Esperon pelting has a common denominator_ FEAR! Gloria and her lapdogs are scared of the people they are supposed to serve. For all the bravado, feigned or otherwise, they are shaking with their kness knocking whenever they are in public. They are aware of their sins against their own people. They may not have the conscience to repent, but they sure are paranoid about their safety. Did you know that Gloria is wearing bullet proof vests?
Alitaptap,
I’m all for it – pelting Gloria and her cabal!
What a way to show them indeed that young Pinoys and Pinays have courage.
No, I didn’t know that Gloria wears bullet proof vest… Kaya pala mukhang sack of potatoes iyong katawan niya.
You bet, Anna and Alitaptap. It does not matter whether there are those who would not join the protests but the majority are for throwing rotten eggs and mud at Esperon. It just gets in to my nerves about all these talks on Filipinos being divided even when majority of the population (92 percent as of last survey) are against the leadership of this bogus president just to amuse her definitely by these Internet Brigade paying lip service to the now panicking spoiled brat!
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for me there is sense when he was saying that he was able to start a company without any help from the govt.he was also talking about jobs that can expand which has also some sense and which also does not need help from the govt.these are the reasons behind this too dependent statement.
“there is sense when he was saying that he was able to start a company without any help from the govt”
Ah, Norpil but that is a different statement altogether as opposed to “Filipinos are too dependent on government”.
Besides, I still have to see Filipinos (as en masse) depending on government to set up business…
Hey Yuko,
Saw you in pic! Repeated bravos for the bravoura!
And all the time I thought we were merely DEPENDING on government to provide the proper environment for our economic and social activities to prosper so that jobs could be generated. Which means we were DEPENDING on government to be honest, not cheat, not lie, not steal, not repress or oppress, not change the rules of the game in midstream for businessmen and investors. Businessmen have been asking government for decades not to meddle too much in their businesses, to cut red tape.
Is that too much to ask? Is that being too DEPENDENT on government?
Thanks, Anna. I thanked this group of union leaders who marched to the Philippine Embassy on behalf of the Filipinos who should be the ones shouting at the top of their lungs against the atrocities being committed by their own government against human rights activists in the Philippines, but then, it is on a weekday, and everyone is busy making money!
Hopefully, we will have a bigger rally, a street demonstration actually when it gets cooler. It’s early autumn here now.
We also will have a meeting with parliamentarians here in Japan to discuss about the pimping of Filipinos here with the Bansot insisting on deploying young boys and girls to Japan again in two years’ time as entertainers kuno!
This modern slavery being engaged in by this bugaw government is in fact destroying Filipinos, who are proving to be more a burden to the host countries than assets.
Right now, our problem here are these Filipino women who are becoming a burden to the Japanese society with majority of them on welfare, and those who are stripped of their welfare now even committing heinous crimes such as arson, drug running and even insurance scam.
Hey Split Personality whoever you are calling yourself by some judge’s name according to Florry, you don’t put words into my mouth! You are not me, and I am not you!
I know what I am talking about more than you do! I can read newspapers, stupid, not just in English, but in various languages that I know how to speak, read and comprehend.
If you cannot say a good thing about a person, will you please stop addressing your stupid comments to anyone in this blog. What you do is detract the smooth flow of the debate in this blog, and you definitely spoil the fun!
Nababaklaan ako sa iyo. Ang dami mong pangalan! My gosh!
Please have a life!
Kung ako ang mga UP students, hindi itlog ang ibabato ko sa kanya kundi babayagin ko ang loko. Tatadyakan ko sa bayag o itlog ang gago hanggang sa mapisa…kung may bayag siya. Ang lakas ng loob ng gago at pumunta pa sa UP. Nandoon iyon para maniktik ng mga rebeldeng estudyante at militante.
Ang gagong iyan…mas grabe pa kay Gen. Ver noon!
Bakit bulok na itlog at putik lang ibinato kay Major General Almoranas Esperon? Dapat pillboxes, molotov cocktails o granada at tae para sa mga Judas ng bayan.
Diego:
Walang pambili! Iyong itlog, bigay lang hindi na kasi makain! Molotov cocktails, langis din iyan. Kerosene daan-daan piso pa iyan. Putik libre. Maski nga tae, may bayad na rin kasi nagagawang fertilizer! Ngayon pang ninakaw ang pera para sa fertilizer. Sayang pa!
O baka sabihin ni Mrivera na bakit tae na naman ang pinag-uusapan dito! 😛
Ulol yan si Esperon. Naniguro muna na hindi siya maaargabyado kaya minarkahan daw agad ng mga bata niya ang mga kasama sa forum. Siyempre pa naka-name tag ang mga estudyante at faculty na nagjoin. Kaso one-step ahead din ang mga taga peyups. Ang bumato yung hindi kasali sa forum.
Hindi na maa-identify maliban kung masundan kung saan tambayan nanggaling.
Saan ba iyang C.M. Recto Hall na iyan? Sa news, ang tingin ko Faculty Center (across Palma Hall/CAS) yung pinanggalingan ni Esperon at sementado iyon. Paano nagkaroon ng putik? Di kaya tae nga?
Mabuhay kayo, iskolar ng bayan!
ystakei, okey ka talaga. lakas ng ESQ mo. kabubukas ko lang pangalan ko agad ang nakita ko. bakit nga etats na naman ang usapan? ahhhhhhh! si aspirin, binato ng itlog sa peyups? sayang ‘yung itlog. pwede pang magaing ulam ng mga pobreng walang pambili. kahit bugok na ‘yun pag nilaga penoy. dapat lang talaga tae na lang para naamoy ni esperon ang singaw ng kanyang kabulukan.
To anna de brux:
“don’t recall anyone calling Anthony moron or idiot in spite of his so very personalized “insults” against people here which include me”
Excuse me?
I DARE YOU – CUT AND PASTE ANY PREVIOUS QUOTE I MADE TO THE EFFECT THAT I PERSONALLY INSULTED YOU. I DARE YOU.
AND IN CASE YOU COULD CITE POSTS TO THAT EFFECT, THEY ARE IN RETALIATION TO PERSONALIZED INSULTS (AD HOMINEMS) I RECEIVED! IN SHORT, IM JUST RETURNING THE FAVOR!
I DARE YOU TO SHOW ME THAT I STARTED INSULTING OTHERS. I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN AN ALLEGED “PERSONALIZED INSULT” YOU CLAIMED I ALLEGEDLY HURLED AT YOU
“Ellen’s blog to my mind is one of the real last bastions existing on Philippine net on freedom of speech.”
I do hope Anthony Scalia appreciates that”
WELL I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AS MY POSTS (AND OTHER CONTRARY VIEWS) WERE NOT TAKEN OFF. BUT IT SEEMS ITS BLOGGERS DON’T. BY THE POSTS HERE, IT SHOWS THAT ITS BLOGGERS ARE NOT TOLERANT OF CONTRARY VIEWS. ITS BLOGGERS ONLY WANT ONE VIEW.
PERHAPS ITS BLOGGERS NEED A REVIEW ON LOGICAL FALLACIES
Congratulations to U.P. for an action WELL DONE!
Now, does an Esperon get the picture that
Ooops…my comments was bitin. It should read:
Congratulations to U.P. for an action WELL DONE!
Now, does an Esperon get the picture that HE IS NOT LIKED? Or is he like Gloria who is not with it and does not get it?
Anthony Scalia,
No need to “shout”. I assure you that you can make yourself clear without having to use all caps – kinda hard on the eyes. Is this a fair request, you think?
Now as to your remark (and no need to cut and paste) – I remember you calling people here “hunghang” which to me, means “idiotic or moronic”.
And as to your “PERHAPS ITS BLOGGERS NEED A REVIEW ON LOGICAL FALLACIES”. What do you exactly mean? You reckon, Ellen should review her blog and find out if they contain fallacies or arguments that aren’t logical?
Anyway, doesn’t matter really.
I would like you very much to refrain from general insults. You will agree, I’m sre that they don’t get us anywhere, really.
Again, is this a fair request, you think?
Also, your “BY THE POSTS HERE, IT SHOWS THAT ITS BLOGGERS ARE NOT TOLERANT OF CONTRARY VIEWS.”
Well, I’m tolerqant of your views. Are you tolerant of mine?
Anyway, am off!
I’ll be whacking a few tiny white balls on the green.
I can’t promise to use them for a target as if they were Gloria’s head.
Gloria to my mind is a waste of people’s rations. How anybody can still support her is beyond me. But that is their own lookout – they wanna live with her? Absolutely fine!(Ain’t I being extremely tolerant now?) But those who don’t want to live with her have all the right in the world to divorce from her and to try their damnest best to put her away in a kulungan for the crimes she’s committed against the Filipino nation.
Mula sa pahina 2 ng BULGAR (Boses ng Masa, Mata ng Bayan) September 25,2006 – Lunes
PAMBABASTOS NG U.P. AYAW
PATULANG NG PALASYO
Mananatili pa rin ang suporta ng gobyerno sa Unibersidad ng Pilipinas(UP) sa kabila ng pagkadismaya sa ginawang pambabastos at pamamato ng itlog ng ilang mga estudyante nito kay Armed Forces of the Philippines Chief of Staff Hermogenes Esperon noong biyernes.
Ito ang nakasaad sa text messages ni Secretary to the Cabinet Ricardo Saludo.
Ikinatwiran ng kalihim na ilang dekada nang sentro ng protest action ang nasabing state university pero sa kabila nito, nananatili pa rin ang suporta ng gobyerno rito at mananatili ang nasabing posisyon hanggang sa kasalukuyan.
Aminado naman ang Malacañang na dismayado sila sa nangyaring pambabato ng itlog kay Esperon at inilarawan pa nito na isang “rude act of disrespect”.
Tikom naman ang bibig ng Palasyo kung pabor sila na kasuhan o parusahan ang mga estudyanteng nambato kay Esperon matapos itong imbitahan bilang guest speaker sa U.P.
(Aileen Taliping)
To anna de brux:
“No need to “shout”. I assure you that you can make yourself clear without having to use all caps – kinda hard on the eyes. Is this a fair request, you think?”
Oops, sorry. But wait, the use of all caps is part of freedom of written communication, don’t you think? Pero, since my right ends where someone else’s right begins, ok ill use small caps in all my replies to you from now on.
“Now as to your remark (and no need to cut and paste) – I remember you calling people here “hunghang” which to me, means “idiotic or moronic”. ”
That is because I was called idiotic moronic; it was in retaliation. It takes one to know one; someone calls me idotic moronic and that person must be idotic moronic as well.
I never initiated calling someone else idiotic moronic.
“I would like you very much to refrain from general insults. You will agree, I’m sre that they don’t get us anywhere, really.
Again, is this a fair request, you think? ”
Wow, as if I started the insults. No my dear Anna, I never started it, and I can’t say its a fair request because its directed to the wrong person. Well, you are correct that it doesnt get us anywhere.
Wait, I think I’d better use that quote to some of my favorite people here:
To spartan, florry, artsee, mrivera, josephs et al:
“I would like you very much to refrain from general insults. You will agree, I’m sre that they don’t get us anywhere, really.
Again, is this a fair request, you think?”
(acknowledgment – the above quote is from anna de brux. just re-directing it to the proper recipients)
Anthony, insults have become part of this blog. You just have to get used to it or quit. Am I free from these insults? Of course not. Look at that nincompoop who keeps bashing Capampagan and who continues to call them “dugong aso”. Also, you’re in a blog owned, moderated and controlled by anti-GMA…majority of members are including me. So, your argument and sometimes defense of this Gloria is an exercise in futility. If you think you can get away from the Queen of this Blog, you’re mistaken. For this person who lords it over this blog can attack but doesn’t want to be attacked. Worse, this person is tolerated…making me think if she’s been reprimanded even privately. If you can’t take the heat, I strongly suggest that you leave this blog. Perhaps your ideas and voice would be better heard at government e-groups.
npongco, ‘yan nga eh. di nga ba kapag pumasok ka sa bahay ng may bahay siguraduhin mo lamang na ikaw ang makikibagay at hindi ikaw ang pakikibagayan. mahirap kasi sa tao ‘yung inilalagay ang sarili sa laging dapat pakinggan kahit dispalinghado ang tugtog na gustong pasayawan. palaging sinasabi na tayo dito puro daw pagtatalak na gawain lang naman ng mga bakla. ayaw ianalisa na kung hindi ginagago ang taong bayan ng kanyang ipinagtatanggol na mag-asawang maligno hindi siguro o walang aalma sa atin dito. hindi rin niya naiisip na kaya walang ordinaryong mamamayan na umaangal upang makisali sa blog na ganito walang sariling computer at walang panahon dahil mas inuuna ang paghahanap ng ipang-aagdong buhay kahit pang-ilang araw lang.
anthony scalia, hindi ko alam na balat sibuyas ka pala pero kung tumira ka, iba!!@!
To npongco:
Well, maybe you’re right – i just have to get used to it or quit.
I can take the heat, thank you, but it means I have to descend to their level, if needed be.
I’d like to stress one thing, which can’t be overstressed – I am not defending GMA. Its an exercise in futility, for you and your kind, as you have made your mind up, as I have mine.
Besides, I dont need to defend GMA. She’s already assured of sitting till 2010, whether we like it or not. No amount of “pagtatatalak” will remove her from her seat. Of course, I must not take away your constitutional right of free speech, so go ahead, feel free to continue your “pagtatatalak.” Its your lives anyway.
Saka this is supposed to be a democratic blog, right? Not exclusively for anti-GMA? This is not a pure ranting board, (with no contrary views allowed) right? But until the time Ellen forbids me from posting, I will continue to post here.
You know you must take a shot at the so-called Queen of this Blog. This Blog should be free for all, a level playing field. You should fight for your freedom of equality here – no royalty!
It is sad that elitism still extends to this blog.
Come on, I might be the only proof that democracy exists in this blog! Didnt it ever occur to you that I might be a paid hack of someone who is also anti-GMA, just to rock the boat and create a semblance of democracy here?
To mrivera:
“di nga ba kapag pumasok ka sa bahay ng may bahay siguraduhin mo lamang na ikaw ang makikibagay at hindi ikaw ang pakikibagayan. mahirap kasi sa tao ‘yung inilalagay ang sarili sa laging dapat pakinggan kahit dispalinghado ang tugtog na gustong pasayawan.”
Teka muna, akala ko ang blog na ito ay para sa isang demokratikong talakayan ng mga isyu? At hindi ito exclusive sa mga anti-GMA, di ba? Paki-tanong nga si Ellen kung mali ako?
Kaya it shows di ka tolerant of other views – a no no in a democracy.
Huwag kang mag-alala. Ikaw din, dispalinghado ang tugtog na gustong sayawan.
“ayaw ianalisa na kung hindi ginagago ang taong bayan ng kanyang ipinagtatanggol na mag-asawang maligno hindi siguro o walang aalma sa atin dito”
Ayan na naman, tagapagtanggol ko daw ang gobyerno. Uulitin ko uli ang sagot ko dyan – porke ba di ako nagtatatalak to your tune pinagtatanggol ko na sila?
Saka may magagawa ka ba? Nakaupo pa rin sila. Ano, pagtatatalak lang ang kaya mong gawin?
“hindi rin niya naiisip na kaya walang ordinaryong mamamayan na umaangal upang makisali sa blog na ganito walang sariling computer at walang panahon dahil mas inuuna ang paghahanap ng ipang-aagdong buhay kahit pang-ilang araw lang”
Nakupo, ayan na na naman, sinisisi na naman sa gobyerno. Panahon pa ni Marcos, marami na ang maralita.
Saka, FYI, this blog is just one of millions of web sites out there. Kung wala pang naka-blog dito eh di pa nila alam ito. Kung di pa nga nakipag-link si Ellen sa ibang blogs di ko pa makikita ito.
hanggang ngayon, di mo pa rin tinatanggap yung hamon ko – tingnan natin kung anong adhikain ang makakatulong sa mas nakararaming Pilipino – ang pagtulong sa paglikha ng trabaho o ang pagtatatalak/pagtutok sa katiwalian.
To mrivera:
No, hindi ako balat sibuyas. Kung baga sa pro wrestling, kayo yung mga rule breakers. Isyu ang dapat talakayin dito, hindi yung pagkatao ng mga poster! Pero ewn ko ba mahilig nyong iungkat ang pagkatao ng poster, eh wala namang kinalaman yun sa discussions.
At least, hindi ako ang nag-uumpisang tumira.
i am a tagalog from central luzon but i learned this new word hunghang which sounded like chinese to me. i have heard of buang also from southern tagalog i suppose.i probably was a balat sibuyas before but it helps to blog here to have a little bit thicker skin not necessary kapal mukha since we don’t see our faces anyway.
anthony scalia, pwedeng pakibalikan mo ang mga dati mong posts kung paano mo akusahan at laiitin ang mga taong ipinaabot ang kanilang pag-ayaw kay gloria? ikaw itong sobrang manggalaiti sa inis at pati ilong mo umuusok sa galit sa aming mga posts laban sa ayaw mo pang amining ipinagtatanggol mong administrasyon. wala kang alam kundi sabihin na panahon pa ni marcos ang paghihirap ng mga pinoy. pilit mong ipinipikit ang mga mata mo na para bang nagre-report ka sa amo mo pagkatapos mong makipagtalakayan (kaya?) o mag-espiya dito! dati kang supporter ni eddie villanueva pero ngayon sang-ayon ka sa mga kabulukan ni gloria na sinasamahan pa ng katarantaduhan ng buong pamilya nila? hindi ka lang pala bayaran, mas matalas ka pa sa labaha.
hanggang ngayon, di mo pa rin tinatanggap yung hamon ko – tingnan natin kung anong adhikain ang makakatulong sa mas nakararaming Pilipino – ang pagtulong sa paglikha ng trabaho o ang pagtatatalak/pagtutok sa katiwalian.
anthony scalia, hindi ko alam kung anong klaseng kulit meron ka. ituloy mo na lang ang nasimulan mo at itutuloy ko ang naumpisahan ko. hindi ko kailangang makipagpaligsahan sa iyo dahil para lamang maipagsigawan sa buong mundo ang magagawa ko dahil wala akong kakayahang magbigay ng trabaho. ituloy mo lang, baka sakali gawin ka pang trade secretary ng ninang mo. good luck na lang sa iyo. and may you meet your target of creating ten million jobs before the end of your term with your “heaven sent president.”
And which heaven, do you reckon, sent his president? The second or the seventh heaven?
Ok lang na batuhin ng bulok na itlog, basura, kaning baboy at tae ni Gloria si Hermogenes Esperon. Sino ba siya? Di ba hamak na timawang tuta lang naman siya ng timawang si Gloria at mga palamuning baboy lang naman sila ng taumbayan.
Kuwento ni Lolo noong katatapos lang ng World War II lahat ng mga sundalong hapon na naiwan sa Pilipinas pinupukpok ng martilyo, bato, binabareta, tadyak, kurot at kung ano-ano pang kahindik-hindik na kalupitan ng lumayang taumbayan.
Sana…
Gosh, people here ain’t gotten over the Japanese licking Pinas quick and easy in WWII, eh?
What have the Japanese of WWII got to do with immoral bansot?
Here’s the latest: Despite not being confirmed by the CA for his third star rank, Gloria still went on to promote him to four star. So, GMA is higher than the CA. There’s no need for confirmation in her administration. She can even promote anyone from sergeant to General.
npongco:
Amazing! I also read the promotion of AFP Cheap of Staff Gen. Hemorrhoid Assperon to four star General. Incredible, when Assperon still waiting from Commission on Appointments (CA) confirmation on his three star. And how about traitor Angelo Reyes secretary of DENR without CA confirmation? If I’m not mistaken. Obviously, illegitimate Gloria doesn’t care about the order of protocal since fake Gloria got her own agenda. Anyway, Gloria wants to abolish the Senate anyway?
Moreover, Traitor Angelo Reyes with 8 under secretaries under him. How many does he need to do his unconfirmed position? Plain abuse of power the waste of tax payers money. Ain’t theirs so why not!
What cooperation and working together???
I hope she won’t give them another Star cuz that will elevate them to the level of immortals the like of General Eisenhower, McArthur, Bradley, and the greatest field commander of all George Patton jr. Just imagine if these guys see these jokers among them one of these days. Patton will probably ask, where did you guys got your stars, from the Boys Scout? And Big Mac might add and when was the third world war? I know what Gen. Eisenhower will surely ask; has anyone of you became a President. Bradley was known as the quite one and maybe the one who knew more than anyone of them, so he’ll just grin and shake his head.
Kung naniniwala po kayo na maganda ang nangyari kay CSAFP Gen. Esperon sa paaralang aking pinapasukan, ako po hindi. Ipinakikita lamang ng mga estudyanteng nambato ng itlog ang kawalan nila ng wastong pag-uugali na dapat taglay ng isang edukadong tao. Kabastusan ang ipinakita nila sa taong inimbitahan upang magsalita sa forum na iyon. Respeto naman! Kahit nga ba sabihin nating wala siyang mabuting nagagawa sa bayan eh. Pinapapangit lang nila lalo ang tingin ng tao sa Unibersidad. Kaya kung tutuusin may katotohanan naman talaga ang sinabi ni DOJ Sec. Gonzales na ang nahuhubog sa mga estudyante ng UP ay “destabilizers” eh. Tingnan na lang natin ang kaisipan ng organisasyong LFS, KM, Anakbayan sa UP Diliman. Sabi ng isa “Solusyon sa kahirapan, Digmaang Bayan”, mga hindi nag-iisip! Kung tutuusin, sariling interes at kagustuhan lamang nila ang mananaig sakaling sila man ay mapunta sa poder. Wag nga silang magpakahibang. NAkakapang-init ng ulo!
Sa susunod na dungisan pa nila ang pangalan ng Unibersidad ng Pilipinas, mananagot sila!
Stupid! How can you be proud of the shame these “activists” done to the University?
Another idiot who just joined this blog. Hey you Palace defender…UP is a symbol and window of students’ rights. The school has a long history of nationalists and patriots. Esperon not only deserved that treatment from the student activists, if I was there I would have thrown bomb not egg at him.
To mrivera:
Alam mo, gawain ng talunan at nasupalpal ang palaging pag-aatake sa person. Gawain ng wala nang masabi, kaya nagre-resort na lang sa pag-atake sa person para may masabi lang.
Uulitin ko uli – porke ba hindi ako nagtatatalak to your tune pinagtatanggol ko na si Gloria?
Ikaw ang nagbansang na heaven sent president si Gloria.
“dahil wala akong kakayahang magbigay ng trabaho”
Kasi pagtatatalak lang ang gusto mong gawin. Mas madali nga naman yun.
“ituloy mo lang, baka sakali gawin ka pang trade secretary ng ninang mo”
di ko ninang kung sinuman ang tinutukoy mo, pero salamat na rin sa iyong wish for me
Ikaw na ang nagbanggit ng ten million jobs.
Okay, sa tingin mo ba magkakaroon ng ten million jobs sa pamamagitan ng pagtatatalak?
from npongco’s “Here’s the latest:”
September 26th, 2006 at 12:28 am
Front page picture ngayon Tuesday sa Manila Bulletin September 26,2006 ang mga promoted na 17 Generals and Flag Officers.
anthony escalera, okey, talunan na ako kung talunan dahil hindi ko kayang tapatan ang iyong pagbubulagbulagan. destabilizers na kami kung destabilizers, at least alam naming tama ang aming ipinaglalaban, hindi katulad mo na pinamimihasa ang mga salot sa bayan. marahil isa ka nga sa kanila na nagtatago lamang sa ibang alias o pangalan. isa kang pakawala na masahol pa sa makapili noong panahon ng hapon. bayarang tagapagtanggol ng bulok na gobyerno. hindi naman ikaw ang tinutukoy sa mga argumento pero parang ikaw ang palaging sapol at tinatamaan. kay gloria mo sabihin sampu ng kanyang asawa, anak, bayaw at mga galamay na ang pagnanakaw sa kaban ng bayan ay lalong magpapalubog sa aming mga maralita sa kahirapan sa halip na makatulong sa pagkakaroon ng pangakong sampung milyong hanapbuhay.
To mrivera:
Kung inaamin mong talunan ka, talunan din ang iyong pinaglalaban. Wala akong mapapala kung talunan ang isang tao. Pero kung ang adhikain ay talunan, ay dapat nang palitan.
“pinamimihasa ang mga salot sa bayan”
Alam mo, yung mga nabiyayaan ng Gawad Kalinga, at yung mga nabigyan ng trabaho ay walang pakialam kung si Gloria ay nakaupo pa rin o hindi.
Napaka-busy ng mga taong tulad nina Tony Meloto at Gawad Kalinga sa pagtulong sa kapwa, para mag-rally at magtatatalak.
Kayo kasi, gugustuhin niyong magka-leche leche ang ‘pinas, mapatalsik lang si Gloria. Para kayong chemotherapy (dedo din ang katawan). Para kayong mga Amerikanong lumigtas kuno sa Maynila mula sa kamay ng mga Hapon nung 1945 – malaya nga ang Maynila, levelled to the ground naman, the 2nd most devastated city in World War II after Warsaw in Poland.
“lalong magpapalubog sa aming mga maralita sa kahirapan sa halip na makatulong sa pagkakaroon ng pangakong sampung milyong hanapbuhay”
Ikaw, maralita? Ayan na naman ang iaasa lahat sa gobyerno. Tinawag mo na akong bulag, tatawagin narin kitang bulag – hindi mo makita na ang pinagtatatalak mo ay lumang balita na. Panahon pa ni Marcos meron na nyan. Hanggang ngayon.
Ibig sabihin, di kayang lutasin ng presidente yang mga problemang sinasabi mo.
Kung si Erap nga di naangat ang kabuhayan ng mga masang nag-suporta sa kanya.
Mamulat ka sa katotohanan na kapag ang isang suliranin ay di pa rin ma-solve ng limang presidente, ay talagang di kaya ng isang presidente maging tutoo yung mga pinagsasasabi mo. Kung si Marcos 20 years wala siyang nagawa (lalo pang naghirap), e di lalo na yun gmay term less than that.
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang naghihintay ka pa rin ng milagro sa gobyerno, na gusto mong gawin na lahat ng gobyerno para sa iyo, na di kayang ibigay ng kahit sino pa mang pangulo.
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang nagpadala ka sa propaganda ng iilan.
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang hindi nagbibigay ng trabaho ang gobyerno!
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang walang substantial na pagbabago ang mangyayari sa pagpapatalsik kay GMA.
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang walang dagdag na tranaho ang macre-create kapag nasipa si Glora.
Mamulat ka rin sa katotohanang wala kang pinag-iba sa majority ng mg Pinoy – na personality-oriented at hindi issue-oriented.
“at least alam naming tama ang aming ipinaglalaban”
Asus, kayo lang ang nagsasabing tama ang inyong pinaglalaban.
“e di lalo na yun gmay term less than that” should read
e di lalo na yung may term less than that
anthony escalera, kahit kailan hindi ako naghihintay at umaasam ng mga sinabi mo dahil magulang ko lamang ang nag-arugang maging ganito ako. ikaw lamang ang parang sirang plaka na iyon at iyon din ang tugtog na naririnig. pero kung ipnagpilipilitan mong magaling ka, okey, ikaw na ang pinakamagaling ….. magsipsip kay gloria at magtanggol sa gunggong niyang asawa.
walang matinong tao ang papatol sa mga bulag na katulad mo. kausapin ka mang nang maayos, tanungin ka nang maayos, pawang mga sagot mo wala sa hulog. hindi naman ikaw ang pinatutungkulan ng mga puna at mungkahi, ikaw ang nanggagalaiti sa galit. siguro nang makatapos ka ng pag-aaral, ang bait mo ay naiwan sa isang sulok.
anthony scalia reply to nelbar on September 25th, 2006 at 4:28 pm
Coup jitters
Tama. Inatupag ni GMA kung paano ililigtas ang Pilipinas kay FPJ.
Anong klaseng pananaw yan?
Anong klaseng demokrasya ang isinusulong mo anthony scalia?
Para mong sinabi na ikaw si JFK at sinabi sa mga bumoto kay Nixon:
“OK lang, ang pagboto nyo kay Richard Nixon napunta rin naman sa akin ang boto nyo eh”
At isapa anthony scalia:
pwede ko din bang sabihin na , Inatupag ni Jeb Bush ng Florida ang boto ni Al Gore na mapunta kay George Bush
Sa nagpakilalang (o nagpapanggap) na iskolar ng bayan:
Ang wastong pag-uugali ay hindi na inaasahang ituturo pa sa UP. Dapat natutuhan mo na iyan nung elementary ka pa lang. Ang mas mahalagang matutunan ng mga tunay na iskolar ng bayan ay ang pakikipaglaban para sa matuwid, pakikipagtagisan para sa tama, pagtatanggol sa karapatan at sa kalayaan, pananatili ng superyor na talino at kaalaman, at ang malikhaing ekpresiyon ng mga ito ay ang tradisyong nabubuhay sa puso at damdamin ng isang tunay na taga-UP lamang at maaaring di maintindihan ng iba.
Nakakalungkot na ang Peyups ay tumatanggap na pala ng mga katulad mong mababaw ang pananaw. Ligaw sa isyu. Payak sa kaalaman. (At mali pang mag-Ingles! Noong 80’s, siguradong singko ang ang grado mo kay Mariño, Legasto, o Cervantes)
Ang tingin mo pala sa pagtuligsa kay Esperon ay kabastusan habang ang dalawang kaeskwela, lalo’t buntis ang isa, kamakailan ay dinukot ng kanyang mga alipores, marahil mistulang dagdag-bilang na lamang ng mahigit 700 na nakitil sa kamay ng militar.
Nananawagan ka ng respeto habang ang gobyerno kinakatawan ng mga tulad ni Esperon, pilit na binababoy ang mga institusyon, inililiko ang batas, niloloko ang mamamayan, ninanakawan ang kaban.
Nagbabanta ka pa sa muling “pagdungis” sa paaralan natin, pero ‘yung patuloy na iniiputan ka ng mga baluktot, mapagpaimbabaw, mandaraya, mandarambong at mamamatay-tao ay
ipagkikibit-balikat mo lang ba pagkat hindi mo na maamoy ang baho sa iyong tuktok dahil nasapawan na ng amoy ng bulok mong paligid?
Ang ngitngit mo ay hindi naaayon sa prinsipyong ipinaglaban at kung minsan pa’y ipinagbuwis buhay ng maraming alumni
Hindi na marahil maiintindihan ng isang Sir Raul O. Gonzales, at ng marami pang taun-taong nag-uusyoso, ang mensaheng nakakubli sa mga hubad na katawan ng mga neophytes ng APO tuwing mago-Oblation Run. Sa kasalukuyan, maging ang ibang bakla at babaeng taga-labas ay dumadayo pa upang pagnasahan ang mga katawang ito na nung panahon namin ay hindi naman gaanong pinapansin dahil ang ekspresyong ito ay hindi sa kababawang pangseksuwal lamang.
Malaki na talaga ang pinagbago ng UP. Hindi ako magtataka, lahat ng paradahan ay punong-puno’t umaapaw sa sasakyan ng mga estudyante. Pero nagbago man ang uri ng estado sa buhay ng nag-eenrol, sigurado akong hindi mamamatay ang pusong patriyotiko sa mga TUNAY na iskolar ng bayan!
Maaaring hindi makatarungang ang isang tulad mo, Iskolar Ng Bayan, (kung tutoong isa kang taga-UP) ay pag-aksayahan pa ng pamahalaan sa kakarampot nang pondong galing sa pawis ng taumbayan, pero umaasa pa rin akong ikaw ay makatapos ng kolehiyo na may pinagbago, at naukit sa isip, puso, at damdamin ang mga tradisyong humubog sa iilang nabigyang-pagkakataong maranasan ang buhay sa loob ng Unibersidad ng Pilipinas.
Para sa iyo at mga katulad mo pang nasa UP…
-Tongue in, anew
To nelbar:
“Tama. Inatupag ni GMA kung paano ililigtas ang Pilipinas kay FPJ.
Anong klaseng pananaw yan?”
EXCUSE ME? KAMPI NGA SA INYO YUNG STATEMENT NA “Inatupag ni GMA kung paano ililigtas ang Pilipinas kay FPJ”
SINUSUNDAN KO LANG YUNG EARLIER STATEMENT MO NA ANG MGA KANDIDATO DITO AY WALANG GINAWA KUNGDI ANG SIRAAN ANG MGA KALABAN NILA SA ELEKSYON. KASAMA SA “PAGLILIGTAS” NI GLORIA AY IYUNG PANINIRA AT IYUNG PAG-PAD NG KANYANG WINNING MARGIN.
TAKE NOTE, I STARTED WITH THE WORD “TAMA.”
SO ANONG KLASENG REPLY YAN? HUH?
SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT NA “Inatupag ni Jeb Bush ng Florida ang boto ni Al Gore na mapunta kay George Bush.” WALA AKONG PROBLEMA DYAN DAHIL YAN ANG TRUTH!
WHILE WE’RE ON BUSH AND GORE, MAY THAT BE A REMINDER TO YOU – AL GORE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO PROTEST AND CRY FOUL, EVEN AFTER THE US SUPREME COURT HAD DENIED HIS CASE (ON A TECHNICALITY SADLY)
YET HE CHOSE NOT TO.
KAYA YOU AND YOUR GROUPS SHOULD DO AN AL GORE.
To mrivera:
“walang matinong tao ang papatol sa mga bulag na katulad mo”
sus, nandamay ka pa.
“kausapin ka mang nang maayos, tanungin ka nang maayos, pawang mga sagot mo wala sa hulog”
excuse me? ikaw nga itong bigla na lang nag-aatake sa person.
“hindi naman ikaw ang pinatutungkulan ng mga puna at mungkahi, ikaw ang nanggagalaiti sa galit”
nakupo. ikaw ang naunang tumawag sa akin na bulag, walang malasakit, nagtatanggol sa gobyerno. at saka ikaw ang nanggagalaiti sa galit dahil di lang ako sang-ayon sa pananaw mo!
“siguro nang makatapos ka ng pag-aaral, ang bait mo ay naiwan sa isang sulok”
tama ka, kaso naiwan lang ng isang segundo sa isang sulok.
ayan na naman ang gawain mong pag-uungkat ng pag-aaral/edukasyon.
alam mo ba, ang schooling man ay mahinto, ang edukasyon ay hindi. kaya ang isang taong hangggang high school lang, ibig sabihin ang schooling nya ay hanggang doon lang. Pero ang edukasyon nya ay patuloy.
To TongueInAnew:
“Para sa iyo at mga katulad mo pang nasa UP…
-Tongue in, anew ”
Inggit ka lang.
(no offense meant to the non-UP grads)
anthony escalera, astag firullah. laa ilaaha illalah.
iskolar ng bayan, kung destabilizers ang humuhubog sa inyo diyan sa UP, bakit ka pa nagtitiyagang mag-aral diyan? huwag mong ipikit ang iyong mata sa katotohanan. siguro naman kung ang magtatalumpati sa harapan ninyo ay kagalanggalang na taong hindi sangkot sa mga kabulukan, ang mga estudyanteng katulad mo ay hindi mag-aasal nang ganun. hindi ko sila ipinagtatanggol, ipinaliliwanag ko lang sa iyo ang mga senaryo. iskolar ka, di ba? palakarin mo ang katwiran mo. hindi silang mga nakapwesto ang nagpapaaral sa iyo kundi ang buwis na ibinabayad ng mga karaniwang taong pinagkakaitan nila ng tama at wastong paglilingkod. kasama na dito ang mga magulang, kamag-anak at mga kaibigan mo.
lubos mo bang talastas ang background ni esperon? maganda ba siyang halimbawa para sa iyo?
To mrivera:
aren’t you committing blasphemy?
how would that be blasphemy? i said, may allah (god) forgive me and there’s no other but one allah (god)? is that blasphemy? saying them to keep my reasoning and sanity in tact out of your never ending lashing on us? calling us destabilizers? oh, my.
Anthony is just echoing and following the line of his fake boss. He wants you to call his boss in Malacanang “Allah”…as in Madam Allahdin.
Anthony Scalia:
Bakit ako maiinggit kay pekeng “iskolar ng bayan”? Kung isa ka pang nagpapanggap na taga-UP, ikinahihiya rin kita. At hindi dahil sa magkaiba tayo ng pananalig. Mas mabuti kung binasa mo ng buo ang komento ko kay iskolar ng bayan bago mo sabihing naiinggit ako. Ang maling reaksyon mo dala ng hindi pagbabasa ay patunay lamang na isa ka ring walang karapatang pinag-aksayahan ng pera ng taumbayan (kung taga-UP ka rin) o kung hindi man, minamaliit mo ang kakayahan naming kumilala ng kauri. Kung sabagay, ang isang gagong kagaya ni Esperon ay sa UP rin daw nag-aral, sabi niya. Kahit saang gubat, totoong may ulupong.
Sinabi rin nga pala ng estupidong si Esperon na isa siyang aktibista noong First Quarter Storm, lalo nung 1971 kung kailan laganap ang batuhan ng molotov bombs sa mga rally sa Mendiola kung kaya’t idineklara ni Makoy ang Martial Law. Tignan ninyo, kung totoo ang sinasabi ng isa pang nagpapanggap na Esperon, paano siya mag-rarally sa Mendiola nung 1971 samantalang nung panahong iyon ay nasa PMA siya nag-aaral! Di ba PMA Class ’73 siya? Sino’ng niloko niya?
UP Diliman BSIE batch 1985 ako at wala akong dapat ikainggit sa inyong dalawa ni iskolar, isama ninyo na si Esperon, mga bugok na itlog! Para malaman mo, noong panahon ko sa UP ay kasabayan namin ang mga taong noon at ngayon ay kilala sa publiko gaya nila Imee at Irene Marcos, Katrina Enrile, yung anak ni PM Cesar Virata, Gilbert at Boying Remulla, Tony Velasquez, Benjie Paras, mga prinsipe o anak ng mga sultan, emir sa mga bansang Gitnang Silangan, limang beauty queens, at iba pang mga sumikat sa larangan ng iba’t-ibang propesyon gaya ng pag-aabugado, mga inhenyero, mga manunulat (si Malou Mangahas na editor namin ng Collegian ay isa sa founders ng PCIJ), pagnenegosyo, sining, siyensiya atbp. Marami sa mga iyan naging kaklase ko pa.
Kung meron mang dapat mainggit o naiinggit, hindi ako iyon.
Para sa inyo, Anthony…
– Tongue in, Anew
I get it!
Now, I get it, “Tongue in, Anew” when pronounced quickly is a set of cuss words! Heheheh! (Naku, ang hina ko pala!)
ay, anna. ay akala ko’y nakuha mo na ‘yang tanginanyo na slang ng tonguein, anew? ay nakow, ay mabebenta ka, eh! joke, joke, joke!!!! heheheheh
npongco, noted. ‘lam ko na ‘yun. halata naman, di ba? kunyari patay tanggi pa. ewan. anyway, pabayaan na lang natin, doon siya masaya. harinawang maalimpungatan man lang sa kanyang deep slumber. hirap sa ganyan, kalimitan bangungot dahil sa sobrang busog!
skolar ng bayan Says:
Stupid! How can you be proud of the shame these “activists” done to the University?
Anong ibig sabihin ni iskolar ng bayan?
Tanong ko lang kay iskolar ng bayan?
Nakikinig ka ba at nagbababsa ng mga awitin ng grupong Yano?
To mrivera:
you are using the Almighty’s name in vain
To TongueInAnew:
Same answer pa rin: INGGIT KA LANG.
Kung tutoong UP grad ka, marahil dapat alam mo na puro ad hominems ang mga pinagsususulat mo. Kung maalala mo ang English 1, ang ad hominem ay isang logical fallacy.
“Ang maling reaksyon mo dala ng hindi pagbabasa ay patunay lamang na isa ka ring walang karapatang pinag-aksayahan ng pera ng taumbayan (kung taga-UP ka rin)”
Kung tutoong UP grad ka, yang argument na yan ay faulty. Yan mga ganyang tenor patunay yan na isa ka sa mga mahilig sumigaw ng:
Ibagsak US-Marcos regime
Ibagsak US-Aquino regime
Ibagsak US-Ramos regime
Ibagsak US-Erap regime
Ibagsak US-Arroyo regime
Wow, its been 20 years, ganun pa rin! Fill in the blanks na lang after US – ______
Know what? Ikaw, pinagaksayahan din ang taxpayers money. Wala nang ginawa kungdi magtatatalak pag-graduate (kung grumadweyt ka nga. Yung batch 1985 can mean entered 1985)
Wait, baka ikaw ang nagpapanggap bilang UP grad? Kung nagpapanggap lang ako, bakit mo ako ikinahihiya?
Well, you had famous contemporaries. Noted.
Mabuti na lang nasa minority ang mga taong tulad mo sa UP (kung UP grad ka nga)
Alam mo siyempre ang joke sa mga engineering courses:
What is EE – ENG NA ENG
What is ME – MEDYO ENG
What is IE – INDI ENG (IE kamo ang course mo, right?)
Para sa iyo din naman Tongue: isulat mo sa balota this 2007 elections, your senatorial line-up:
Susan Roces POE
Lucio TAN
Raymundo, INA
Muhlach, NIÑO
anthony escalera,
me? using god’s name in vain? sino’ng god ang sinasabi mo? ‘yung goddess mo sa malakanyang? patawa ka!!!
To mrivera:
Ikaw ang nagpapatawa! Wala akong binabanggit na pangalan ng tao, tapos ikaw itong mag-uungkat! Haay naku, vintage mrivera nga!
Basta yari ka sa mga followers ng relihiyon nina Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, at nung mga nag-react violently sa isang editorial cartoon ng isang very sacred character para sa kanila.
You just profaned the name of the Almighty by mentioning it in this blog.
Dinamay mo pa Siya.
To npongco:
“Anthony is just echoing and following the line of his fake boss. He wants you to call his boss in Malacanang “Allah”…as in Madam Allahdin”
Asus, nag-tunog talunan na rin si npongco. Nag-tunog supalpal. Very much like an old friend here.
Wow, I have a fake boss?!? Well who then is my real boss?!? Please tell me, kasi it looks like you know a lot more than me. Public service mo na sa akin, or balato mo na sa akin.
Kung sa tingin mo boss ko yung sinasabi mong boss ko, I DARE YOU TO CITE POSTS I MADE WHICH PRAISED THE BOSS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TO THE HIGHEST HEAVENS!
You sound like some members of the “united opposition” – Roilo Golez, Alan Cayetano, Nene Pimentel – sour graping, hindi lang naambunan ni Ate Glue, nag-opposition na!
anthony escalera, pati ba naman mga followers nina bin laden saddam hussein gagatungan mo pa? baka ikaw pa ang habulin nila at reypin dahil sa hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin mga praises to allah na binanggit ko. vintage? bah, treasured and sought after ‘yan ngayon, di mo ba alam?
bin laden at saddam hussein….
To mrivera:
Basta yari ka. You just dragged the name of the Almighty in this worldly blog.
“vintage” does not refer to what you described are praises.
“Vintage” refers to your gawi na mag-ungkat/mag-drag ng isyu from out of the blue. Ibig sabihin, talagang true to form ka – ang mag-ungkat/mag-drag ng isyu from out of the blue.
Asus, vintage mrivera? Treasured and sought after ka? Dream on.
anthony escalera, huwag mo naman akong takutin ng ganyan. kinukulebra na ako. kelan ba ako nag-ungkat ng issue out of the blue?
siguro magkaiba ang pagkakaalam natin kung ano ang vintage. anyway, salamat.
aywa mo mang aminin, you are also resorting to ad hominems. medyo tame nga lang ang dating. kungbaga, shitting in a civilized way.
ayaw mo mang aminin….
To mrivera:
Yes, Im resorting to ad hominems, only because you started it!
I’ll never ever initiate the use of ad hominems. If I ever use them, its for retaliation. Returning the favor ‘ika nga.
anthony escalera, kahit minsan ay wala akong itinawag sa iyo ng mga sinasabi mo. misinterpreted mo lang ang “kung hindi mo nababalitaan ang mga nangyayari sa paligid mo, bulag ka nga”. please take note of “KUNG”.
To mrivera:
Nakupo. Sayang, KUNG may panahon lang ako, ipo-post ko yung mga messages mo na tinawag mo akong bulag without any qualifications.