Here’s the Philippine Daily Inquirer report on the hearing on the petition of former Agriculture Undersecretary Jocelyn “Jocjoc” Bolante for bail before a Chicago court:
A petition for bail by embattled former agriculture undersecretary Jocelyn “Jocjoc” Bolante has been denied by an immigration court in Chicago, according to a GMA Network “Flash Report,” quoting a Filipino lawyer monitoring the case of the former government official in the US.
Harry Roque was quoted as saying that the court, in a hearing Wednesday (Thursday, Manila time), also dismissed a petition by Bolante to reject an amicus brief, which Roque and other lawyers from the Philippines had submitted to the court.
The judge accepted the brief “under advice,” which meant that the court would study the petition, according to the report. The brief had been reported to contain a petition to the immigration court to deport Bolante back to the Philippines where he is being investigated for the alleged misuse of millions of pesos worth of agriculture funds.The court set another hearing on Bolante’s case for September 27.
The media was barred from covering the hearing on the request of Bolante and his family.
Bolante has been detained in the US since his arrest last June after immigration authorities discovered that his business visa had been cancelled.
He was reported to have sought political asylum in the US.
The Philippine Senate has issued a warrant for Bolante’s arrest after the official failed to attend several hearings on an inquiry into allegations that he masterminded the transfer of fertilizer funds intended for farmers into the 2004 presidential campaign kitty of incumbent Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
Bolate’s case might be a lot worse than what we thought. It’s no longer a simple case of immigration violation.
Since Bolante bail hearing was held close-door, it’s kind of hard to really determine the reasons of the bail denial. Speculation aside, the judge maybe be expecting any extradition request from the Philippines Justice Official. but i’m not sure if it’s possible until the prosecutors lay criminal, administrative or any extradible offense against Bolante in Proper court. Senate is a legislative body and I’m not sure if the U.S. will recognize its request, granting there is no Political Intervention.
Of course, the Arroyo government will not seek for the extradition of Bolante. In fact, the DFA is contemplating filing a complaint for the arrest and detention of Bolante. It’s also Mike Arroyo who is believed to be funding the legal defense of Bolante.
In the transcript of the interview by the immigration officcer of Bolante, he cited the Senate warrant of arrest.
So bolante is unbailable! US must be holding him under the NO HAVEN FOR KLEPTCRATS policy. Which means bolante will serve time before he is extradited. I hope he gets one day for every thousand that he ‘klepted’. Even that would do no justice for the nine year old girl thrown in jail for indefinite time, for stealing ONE lousy tilapia.
Most likely Joc-Joc Bolante is involved in money laundering and racketeering. Don Jose Pidal will be the next to be arrested in the U.S. Malacanang Palace is being run by Mafia- like gangsters. I’m sure Jose Pidal and company of thieves will be in Las Vegas, Nevada for Pacquiao- Morales Fight III. The Office of the Ombudsman is deliberately delaying fertilizer scam investigation. Joc-Joc Bolante can not be extradited without Ombudsman’s Bolante graft case final resolution. Malacanang lapdogs are everywhere. There’s no justice under Arroyo corrupt regime.
Ha-ha!
Now glue macapal-arrovo is rushing to file a diplomatic protest!
WHY ONLY NOW?
Hindi ba huli na para mag-file?
Apparently, this action came from the advise of miriam who is with glue all the way to london to visit the…errr? who?
Sana ma-bolante rin si miguel, da fatman aka FG[first garapal/ganid/gahaman/gahayok/gag……..arghhhh!!
Da KLEPTO numero Uno!
Ellen:
This piece of news actually has helped restore my faith in the American system. At least, we know with or without Dubya, the rule of law prevails in good ole America. Still, I have no intention to go back there to settle down for good. I have retained my SS no. and card though.
Gosh, lalong sasabihin ng mga kano na tonto na bobo pa ang mga pilipino sa ginagawa ni Pandak na ito! Iniinis lang nila ang mga kano at ang kanilang korte dahil in the first place, hindi naman opisyal na gobyerno na itong si Bolate to be travelling with an official passport kaya mismong sa Philippine Law may violation na, and by law, the president is not privileged to make that decision on whether or not such person should be given an exemption. Diyan mo makikitang bobo at magaling lang magpalusot sa batas, rather mag-bent ng batas!
Admit it, boba talaga!!! Ale, Ale, Ale Boba, Ale Boba, baba ka na puede ba? 😡
Ellen,
All the more reason the US court will not grant any concession to this crook. Biro mong ang tapang sabihin na kaya ayaw niyang umuwi ay dahil may warrant siya from the Philippine Senate na ipinalalabas pa niyang illegal! Ano siya hari! I bet you, napapailing na lang siguro iyong mga kano! All the more reason why they will have to be VERY, VERY STRICT on this guy who is trapping himself by his own admission that he is a fugitive evading a warrant by the Philippine Senate and therefore may be redeemed a menace! Gago din ano? Buti na lang marami pa ring matatalino sa UP!
Akala ko nabulok na ang mga graduate ng Alma Mater ko!
Atty. Roque, Salamat! Mabuhay kayo ng mga kasama mo! Next iyong pilipina na iniipit ng sariling mga kababayan nila dahil wala siyang dollar na ipanglaban against doon sa mga horny soldiers na Amerikano. Hopefully, hindi nila ibabalik ang mga gunggong na iyan sa Okinawa kasi nakahanda na ang grupo doon to demand for their expulsion from Japan as probably menaces!!!
Oops, this should read: Hopefully, hindi nila ibabalik ang mga gunggong na iyan sa Okinawa kasi nakahanda na ang grupo doon to demand for their expulsion from Japan as PROBABLE MENACES! RAPISTS!
This forum is getting rich in newly coined words, i.e.:
From Ellen … gloriahan
From Yuko … Ale Boba
From Taipan … Sana ma-bolante rin si miguel, da fatman
I love this place!!!
15 September 2006
Nyak, nyak, nyak………… hehehehehe of all the people, why do we have to listen to gloria??? all she did was to LIE!!!! imagine, even have the gull to tell the people that her (fake) administration will not intervene or anything for that matter to assist bolante, except by consular assistance (the routine assistance being conducted by our consulates and or embassies). Now, according to the news, gloria and her DFA secretary romulo (not everyday that he is being informed) will file a diplomatic protest on the egging by the (un)sophisticated and fast mouth lady mirriam, hehehehehehe….. I DARE SAY, LET THEM FILE THEIR DIPLOMATIC PROTEST!!!! if they file it, so much the better, will see what will happen next. What does lady mirriam is thinking about??? Does anyone of you will ever think that gloria is willing to sacrifice her administration’s damaged relation with bush administration????naaaaaaaaahhhhhhh….. I dont think so??? SO, I SAY AGAIN LET US DARE THESE HYPOCRITE TO FILE THEIR DIPLOMATIC PROTEST AGAINST THE US GOV’T and let raul gonzales (the ever gullible) to brand the americans as desztabilizers!!!!! I SAY A AGAIN I DARE THEM TO FILE THEIR PROTEST!!!!!
It just shows off one thing, that gloria an her band of brothers are already peeing int heir pants, cause, the US govt will send blonate back to the Philippines so as for him to answer all allegations and clear everything out in the open.
prans
Just heard from the TFC – ANC Channel that Atong Ang was ordered by the US Court to be extradited to the Philippines.
WELL, WELL, WELL – Pandak and her minions must be worried with the turn of this event. Let’s see how the Fat Guy will extend his aid to his friend, Joc Joc Bolante.
Soon it will be Bolante – to be extradited to the Philippines and hopefully Sen. Jun Magsaysay and the other Senators will be meeting him at the airport.
It looks we are seeing some ray of hope on the horizon!
Emilio:
Kung ako kay Ang at Bolante, I’d go home on my own volition. Mahirap mapatalsik and transported with other TNTs on some cargo plane like how some Filipinos were deported to the Philippines two years ago. Kinawawa ang mga pilipino. Nakaposas sa eroplano all throughout the 10-15 hour trip kasi may nanggaling pa sa East Coast.
I would like Ang and Bolate to be deported that way para madala ang mga mayayabang sa Pilipinas. Grabe! Parang baboy na hinaula sa cargo plane!
Frankly, what I see in this action of the US is that it is giving the Filipinos a lesson in the rule of law by setting the example of some criminal procedure that need to be followed to the letter especially when the name and reputation of the US and the American people are at a stake. Nakakahiya nga naman na sila ang nagturo ng rule of law tapos sila ang hindi marunong magpasunod!
Kaya Ale Boba, baba ka na! Malapit nang pumiyak si Bolate! Kahit pa sabihin ni Ale Boba na babayaran ang mga kano, hindi nila tatanggapin. Balewala ang strong peso claim ni Ale Boba. Alam naman ng mga kano na puro utang lang naman iyan!
This reminds me of the rainbow tour of Evita Peron in the 1950’s (per Evita the play), and hers and Peron’s woes started after she came back from her trip. Eventually, she died! Sana ganyan din ang mangyari kay Ale Boba but I don’t want her to die. I want her to suffer inside the Muntinlupa prison!!!
Yuko:
Talagang kaawa-awa ang mga napauwi noon na galing sa U.S. na ang ginamit ay C130 cargo plane na sa Clark Air Base (Diosdado Macapagal International Airport) lumapag. Totoo iyong sabi mo na karamihan sa kanila ay nakaposas hanggang lumapag ang eroplano. Alam naman natin na ang C130 cargo plane ang ginagamit ng U.S. sa kanilang logistics transport sa mga lugar na kailangan ng mga tangke at ibang armour.
Sa utos ng U.S. kay Atong Ang na extradition ay nangangatog na ang kalamnan ni Joc Joc Bolante dahil hindi malayong ganito rin ang kahinatnan niya.
Diyan lamang mapapatunayan ng U.S. na hindi sila takbuhan ng mga kriminal at tumatakas sa pag-uusig!
Thanks to Ellen, et al for covering up this issue despite the risk of retaliation from the Fatso and the Ale Boba who wanted to put a news blackout on this, and the attempt to mislead with all those petitions that have made this simple case more complicated instead of vice-versa.
Fortunately, there are lots of brainy people still back home who can stop this nonsense and I guess why the Boba wants ALL brainy people like those topnotchers in medical exams to get out of the Philippines para lahat mga boba at bobo na lag ang matira doon para matuloy ang pangarap niyang maging reyna. Yup, Reyna Bobita ng mga bobo at boba! 😛
Buti naagapan nina Atty. Roque. And I told you that hindi uubra ang petition for asylum ni Bolate because he did fall into that category! Ang dami ko kasing napakialamang kaso ng mga asylum seekers dito sa Japan, and I know that our procedure is no different from the procedure in the USA except for the fact that violation of the Immigration Law in Japan is a serious crime. In the USA, it is still I guess being debated on whether to consider overstaying and working illegal as a felony.
With his visa cancelled, Bolate in fact considered violating the Immigration Law and may be tagged as a criminal offender. If he does not realize that, then bobo rin pala ang ungas na ito. Now, if the Pidals want him to stay there despite these decisions by the US court and INS, then, he should realize by now that they are not protecting him but only themselves.
Kaya dapat pumiyak na siya at baka maawa pa si Senator Magsaysay.
This development in fact just proves that Esperon, et al are lying through their teeth like their Mother Goose Hen. Remember they were trying to give the impression that Bolate would not like to be expatriated to the Philippines because he was going to be killed by the NPA, who are mostly peasants doing some resistance against their oppressors? Sa sarili din nilang yabang, they were caught telling a lie when they boasted that they had quelled the rebellion in trying to impress others that Ale Boba was so powerful she annihilated completely the NPA!
Wala nang malusutan! I doubt if the Americans would allow themselves to be used by the Boba and be made to look like the villains in this fiasco of the “Rescue of Bolate from the US Eagle!”
It would be good news for a political animal called Gloria to want the extradiction of Atong Ang back to the Philippines. This is a signal that Gloria will USE HIM to add more teeth to ERAPs case…If the oppostion have a Joc-Joc Bolante, then Gloria would want to have an Atong Ang. Magpapatalo ba sya?
In America, the no one is above the law. In the Philippines, those in power are above the law. It would be interesting to see the outcome of the Bolate…my hunch is, he’ll be forced to sing a song many of us have been waiting to hear.
Emilio says:
“Talagang kaawa-awa ang mga napauwi noon na galing sa U.S. na ang ginamit ay C130 cargo plane na sa Clark Air Base (Diosdado Macapagal International Airport) lumapag. Totoo iyong sabi mo na karamihan sa kanila ay nakaposas hanggang lumapag ang eroplano.”
Sinabi mo, Tsong!
Nakita ng mga taga-airport dun, talagang nakakaawa raw!
Grabe ang trato sa mga pinauwi na yun…
Parang mga hayup!
I have no love lost for erap…
I really do not like the guy , nor hsi segunda-manong anak!
BUT………
recent news have proven that erap faced the music and
“did it his way”…..Nag-offer si gloria na mag-exile na lang, pero he stayed put and faced the music, and the puppets glue placed para makasuhan.
So many times, kinatalo si erap….
Humarap sa kasong inihain ng mga kalaban.
Bakit si gloria, ayaw humarap?
Takot sa sariling anino?
At least si erap, may balls!
Si fatso ba, meron?
eh si gloria, bahag nya hila nya!
Malapit ka na!
nyahaha!
You bet, Emilio! Bakit noong binaboy ang mga pilipinong deported from the US, hindi nagreklamo ang Pilipinas when in principle, by the time they left the US and they were not going to be re-arrested in their country, they actually did not need to be in chain and handcuffs. They actually can seek redress for such treatment even in some international court because by the time they left the Philippines, they were supposed to be free, and could enjoy the same privileges and rights of any free men.
In the case of Bolate, the US has every right to deny any courtesy to be extended to this criminal even with the protection of the bogus president.
Kawawang bansa!!!
Alitaptap,
Re “Which means bolante will serve time before he is extradited. I hope he gets one day for every thousand that he ‘klepted’.”
Gosh, that means Fatso will have to send him a truckload of soap in prison… (read Uniffor’s comment about Bolante and soap bars.)
Yes Chabeli…Arroyo wants Atong Ang be back home to cause more damages to Erap but she tries all her best to prevent her men like Bolante from returning home. Too obvious isn’t it?
I just do not trust our system of justice while illegitimate Gloria in in Malacanang. As we all know Gloria privately onwned the justice system, Supreme Court, PCGG, and Head Maid of illegitimate Gloria, Merciless Gutierrez. Lets not forget the House of Congress bought and paid as bulk by illegitimate Gloria. Who can say that some of the Senators can’t be bribed. e.g. Miriam Santiagao. I have my reservation and great concerned of Joc Joc Bolate extradited to Philippines. We all know of what happen to Virgilio Garcillano after missing for many months and finally testified in Congress, lied and released, lived ever after. How about Norberto Gonzales with the fake medical problem? And Bunyeta with the “I’ve two discs.” Just don’t have faith with the system. Quite not sure that it’s to the best interest to get Bolate back in the Philippines. No guarantee that he’ll be prosecuted and jailed, since I’ve not seen any big fish connected to illegitimate Gloria serving time in Muntinlupa.
How about that crooked Brig. Gen. Carlos Garcia? That was a joke!
I guess, to contradict myself, it would be nice to test the water and to see how powerful our Senators to go against the Arroyos and Company. Yet, remain to be seen! We shall see! Nevertheless, I won’t put my last pesos on Bolate going to jail in the Philippines. Just do not trust unworthy Gloria Arroyo, such a waste.
Npongco,
You are right! And you know what gets my goat? Gloria does not give a damn whether she is obvious or not; a typical brat talaga-when she wants something, she HAS to get it at all cost!
I read, Charlie “Atong” Ang will be extradited. The kickers, Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales with his picked/selected NBI agents will get Atong and bring him back to Philippines. In correlation with Bolate, I hope I’m wrong on this. I can see now, Gonzales’s NBI agents will also get Bolate back if ever ruled to be sent back to Philippines. I got this idea that Bolate will never make it to the Senate to spill the bean, in which I doubt anyway as I doubted Garci with his 5th that may self-incriminate. The game played by sickos!
What is more sickening is the fact that GMA is using the government money, tax payers’ money, to help defend and protect her goons.
I share your doubts, Toney. Gloria’s band of crooks are gonna make sure the Senate won’t get their hands on Jocjoc as soon as he steps down from the plane, and later vanish either deep-sixed (the fertilizer scam brain himself turned into fertilizer!) or spending retirement in a secluded first-class resort. Unless the FBI delivers him to his Senate detention cell, door-to-door!
I’m sure Magsaysay would rather have him tried in the US under any statute like the RICO anti-racketeering act, anti money-laundering law, Bush’s recently-declared “No safe haven for kleptocrats” policy, or under a specific law against stealing US agricultural donation. Any one of these would force Jocjoc the Worm to point to the stealing, lying, cheating, killing bitch as the ultimate beneficiary, as the clear purpose was to fund her reelection. That, aside from her own signatures on the fund releases, makes her equally guilty and may, hopefully, be made to face prosecution in the States. The first couple being handcuffed upon landing in Hawaii? That’s one scene we sure would love to see!
Why am I saying this? ‘Cuz Magsaysay has written his counterpart in the US Senate about the details of the fertilizer scam, the ensuing cover-up, and persons involved. I presume Magsaysay, who flew to the States for a heart bypass operation immediately after he had approved the committee report naming Jocjoc as the scam “architect” with Gloria as co-conspirator, had made calls to US Senators and was advised to formalize his plea for support from US legislators, thus Magsaysay’s letter.
The US is not without experience in handling nasty dictators; in fact they have mastered the craft. Noriega, Marcos, Pahlavi, et al, were booted out of office, some even forcibly plucked out by special troops, with the CIA hand (or feet?) seen in the background. The US has taken a different tack in the case of Saddam, though. It creates a puppet government and makes it prosecute the fallen dictator. Now, we don’t want that either, do we?
I don’t think it’s wise to rush to bring home the Worm, not when we have yet to see how a frigging limp-wristed PCGG faggot, who dances swing with Imelda is reported to be evading a similar Senate order by hiding in Malacañang, can be taken into custody. Neither should we prematurely celebrate at the mere deportation of Bolante, who, like the other beasts of the same stripe that preceded him, have made a mockery of these investigations. We were all witnesses how Garci lied, stalled, prevaricated, dissembled and evaded; or how the true Pidal was saved by the fake Pidal (since Pidal was a fake name, he is fake twice over!) only to refuse to reveal further by invoking his right to privacy; or how a bunch of idiots like Mawanay, the would-be Lacson wrecking ball who tries to impress the audience by declaring he had delivered hundreds of Nokia 3210 to Senators Noli and Loren, two years before the model was even invented; Mawanay’s counterpart-idiot Rosebud who claims to have worked for the office of the “Binondo Central Bank” which any Binondo trader knows is simply a figure of speech; Mawanay’s and Rosebud’s handler-idiot Victor Corpuz who effortlessly shamed the whole intelligence community when he claimed Lacson has $700M stashed abroad and even gave a list of account numbers prefixed with country and area codes from the phonebook(!); remember also how Norberto “the Pimp” Gonzales developed amnesia, high blood pressure, blocked artery as well as banana addiction in just one Senate Hearing; so did we also see the other day how a totally uncivilized chairman of PCGG showed utter disrespect for an elected official by engaging the committee chairman in a shouting match, the list goes on. I can still vividly recall how Garci, after finishing reciting the script written in Malacañang, jubilantly walked around Congress’ session hall, according to Rudy Romero, “as if he had just scored a homerun”.
Sure, we all would like to hear it come from Jocjoc’s own mouth that the Doña and her elephant of a spouse were the real masterminds in the fertilizer scam, but believe you me, that will never happen. Not in your wildest dreams. Or in mine.
The truth we thought we have been seeking, we already know. What we need now is justice.
chabeli says:
” And you know what gets my goat? Gloria does not give a damn whether she is obvious or not; a typical brat talaga-when she wants something, she HAS to get it at all cost!”
Pinoys in da Pilipins dance tot he tune of
“Whatever gloria wants,…..gloria gets!”
Hanuba? Wala na bang may balls na Noy-Pi sa Bansa?
Payag ba kayong manatiling ganyan na lang sa “buong panahon”?
I said “buong panahon” becoz THAT, my dears,
is exactly HOW LONG gloria wants to be on top….
geez!
Iyan ang tinatawag na “Small but terrible”—teribleng pagkakapal!!!
Removing the crooks is actually not easier than you think especially when in their gullibility, people like Senator Drilon, et al have allowed this Midget and her Fatso free reign to assign people in strategic positions to insure that she is not removed like having the Supreme Court for instance dominated by friends and cronies, who have their vested interests to protect. “To hell with love of country and people! Bakit nakakain ba iyon?,” so they say. Tignan ninyo nga marami nang napatay! May activist na naman na pinatay the other day, I am told!
At least, now we know that Ale Boba and her countless have no place to go when the time comes the Filipinos make a repetition of what the Katipuneros did more than a century ago kahit na sumakay sila ng magic carpet. This “No Haven to Kleptocrats” is surely a very welcome policy!
The mother of the Filipino complainant in the Subic rape case has not only assailed the supposed incompetence of the public prosecutors but also alleged that their leader had “proposed” a settlement with the accused US Marines.
Speaking with reporters a day after she and her daughter “Nicole” walked out of the courtroom of Makati Judge Benjamin Pozon only minutes before the 1 p.m. hearing was to start, the mother claimed that Senior State Prosecutor Emilie Fe de los Santos began floating the purported proposal in July and warned that if Nicole’s family passed up this option, “your daughter’s case might be traded off with the Bolante case (kung hindi, baka yung kaso ng anak ninyo maging kapalit ng Bolante case).”
It was a reference to former Agriculture Undersecretary Jocelyn “Joc-joc” Bolante, the purported architect of the P728-million fertilizer fund scam, who is now being held in a US detention center.
The mother said De los Santos gave no indication of what this possible “trade” could mean in connection with Bolante’s case.
The Senate must propose a trade off with Bolante: in exchange for truthful information leading to the malversation of funds, he will be granted immunity.
This is the only way to expose the fertilizer scam and indict the Arroyos.
Anna:
No immunity, please. He should be forced to talk and be punished for his part of the deal.
Over here, there is no plea bargaining. That is applied only in civil cases where arbitration is allowed. In criminal cases, it is either you are guilty or not. And over here, no one is indicted without the prosecutor getting all necessary evidences with the help of the police to prove a case. That is why when one is presented in court over here, he is already guilty and called “an accused.” Otherwise, he is simply a suspect and a suspect is not and cannot be presented in a criminal court, where one is judged according to the gravity of the crime and degree of rehabilitation and reformation. Otherwise, the verdict is death. It is most fair, I think.
ystakei,
para mo nang sinabi na magpakamartir si bulate!!! isa -salvage yan ng kanyang mga amo kapag nag-volunteer na mapauwi sa ‘pinas.
Yuko,
I would agree if the accused were a multiple murder suspect, a rapist recidivist, a pedophile, an Osama or Oklahoma bomber type…
Bolante is in prison and is likely to stay in prison for a few more months… the prison trauma he’s experiencing today will never go away.
In the interest of higher justice for the Filipino people, if I were the State prosecutor, I would be prepared to wag an immunity trade-off with Bolante provided that he would TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING but the truth on how the Arroyo couple used him, instructed him to plunder the government of more than 700 million pesos. This must be a caveat.
However, if there is a hint or suspicion that he might be trying to hide a part of the truth, no matter how minute or miniscule, then the deal is off and he should be thrown back into prison.
The caveat must be tight: If his testimony allows for the indictement and the conviction of the Arroyos, Bolante would not be prosecuted for plunder and plunder alone involving the fertilizer fund! If, however, Bolante had committed other crimes OUTSIDE of the fertilizer fund scam, I see no reason why he shouldn’t be prosecuted promptly.
But dear Anna, look! Tignan mo ang mukha ni Bolate! Kamukha noong mga bolateng kasabwat niya! Hindi magsasabi ng lahat ng totoo iyan. I bet you, he will think only of saving his own hide. Ang gagawin niyan, mamamahamak! Magtuturo iyan ng kung sinu-sino! And that would be most unfair. Demonyo na ang mga impaktong iyan at hindi na natatakot sa Diyos at sa batas kasi sila na iyong diyos at batas nila! Entonces, bitay ang kailangan ng mga iyan! No immunity! Samasama sila sa impiyerno!
Mrivera:
You bet, pagbaba niyan sa eroplano, baka barilin na iyan noong kamukha niya! Kaya nga sabi ko doon pumunta sa Tate sina Magsaysay at doon nila lutuin nang husto si Bolate with the help of the US police or Interpol kasi pihado ko naman may representative ang Interpol doon! Puede namang pumunta doon ang mga pulis sa totoo lang gaya ng ginagawa ng mga Japanese police when there is a crime committed by a Japanese versus a Japanese even in foreign soil. May nangyari ng ganyan sa totoo lang.
Last year, a Japanese was killed in Manila by a fellow Japanese, pero lumabas sa mga diyaryo dito na pinatay ng isang holdupper iyong hapon. Nag-imbestiga (daw) ang mga tamad sa Pilipinas, pero walang nangyari, kaya humingi ng permiso ang Japanese police na sila mismo ang mag-imbestiga based on their theory and evidences found in the body of the victim and scene of the crime plus incriminating circumstances. The police went here and did their investigations with the help of the Japanese embassy there and a competent interpreter in two or three weeks. They got enough evidences to incriminate the suspect, and upon returning to Japan made recommendation for the arrest of the suspect. Hindi nakahirit ang suspect. The case was finished in 3 months, and the accused. for killing the victim and committing an insurance scam, got the death penalty.
Over here, committing double crimes means incorrigibility, and thus, the death sentence. Di madadala nga ang mga tao. Talagang talamak na lang iyong makulit kaya mahigpit dito!
Anna, I agree that that’s the only way to go. He escapes US prosecution for the fertilizer scam once he provides info nailing the Arroyo couple and other conspirators. For other crimes, separate deals.
But, a trial in the Phils.? Nah.
It isn’t the US government who should be giving him immunity. His case in the US is immigration related and has nothing to do with the case against him in the Philippines. The US cannot try him for that unless the Philippine government requests the US court to do so, which his fellow bolates won’t allow for sure for fear of Bolate spilling all the beans!
His case will be reviewed for sure especially with the amicus from concerned lawyers in the Philippines and out of courtesy for a special request from the Philippine Senate that the Ale Boba and the Fatso want to have abolished by railroading the ChaCha with the help of Satan’s legion! Ironically, the more Bolate’s lawyers insist on the court to keep him in the US, the more his chances of getting out of jail become next to impossible.
In the end, the court will have no option but to send this guy back to the custody of the Immigration for the usual deportation procedure, for there is no reason for the US to grant special privilege to this criminal suspect and potential menace to stay in the USA.
With the Ale Boba now finding herself in hot water for the political killings in the Philippines, I doubt if the Americans would be willing to stake US integrity, etc. for her after finding and proving her to be untrustworthy.
Noon puro batikos nila kay Imelda keso diktadora daw siya at lahat ay gagawin basta gusto niya. Nakukuha daw niya lahat na gusto niya sa pamamagitan ng salapi at kapangyarihan. Pero tingnan niyo itong si tiyanak ngayon…hindi ba higit pa siyang tarantada?
Yuko,
Right you are – Bolante’s case is immigration related but while the plunder issue is a case which must be raised on Philippine soil. However, there have been instances in the US where “immigrants” were denied their visa but if they hold extremely important information pertaining to crimes committed on foreign soil that could have a bearing on the relation of the US to that foreign nation, US prosecutors could enter into a plea bargain, provided of course, the US coursts could punish the foreign culprits, i.e., if say, the culprits as in Gloria and hubby could be prosecuted physically in the US.
I realize that this is farfetched because, someone has to show cause that the Arroyo couple are indictible in the US, i.e., they have laundered money in the US, so that when they step on US soil, they could be prevented from leaving and thus be prosecuted.
If there is a chance, no matter how miniscule that chance is that Bolante holds info that Arroyo the fatso has committed an act which could be perceived in America as a crime, i.e., money laundering, let’s grab that chance and let him enter into a plea bargain with the US authorities.
Fatso Arroyo ain’t a government official nor a diplomat – by all counts he is a civilian and can technically be sued and prosecuted in the US. As far as things go today, to me Fatso arroyo is the weak link in the Arroyo chain of criminals – he goes to the US quite often, he owns properties (or his company does), he is high profile, and he has a record of not being clean – US authorities may not say it but they recognize that!
Still, Anna, the US court should not be the one to prosecute even the No. Uno Magnanakaw. The crimes they have committed are against the people of the Republic of the Philippines and not against the people of the USA, so in principle, they are supposed to be tried in Philippine coursts. Unfortunately, the courts there are manned mostly by cronies, friends and relatives.
However, they can be indicted in the USA only when there are proofs that they have violated US laws such as what happened to the family of Garcia who tried to smuggle in some dollar that they were actually not supposed to have because of the limit in the procurement of dollars from Philippine banks for travel purposes, and the restriction regarding the amount of dollars allowed to be brought into the USA.
In fact, when I paid for instance for the real estates I bought in the USA and Mexico, I had to ask for special permit from our Ministry of Finance to be able to send the amount to the agent in the USA. Otherwise, I could be charged with smuggling and/or money laundering.
In the case of the Bansot, she can easily ask for the documentation from her appointee in the Central Bank and it will be legal unless someone can prove that the money she is bringing in to the USA is laundered currencies! Then, she should be tried in both US and Philippine courts sans her appointees!
“However, they can be indicted in the USA only when there are proofs that they have violated US laws such as…”
Yeah, I know, that’s why I’m hoping Bolante could come up with the real goods on this thieving couple while he is in the hands of US authorities because if he gets extradited sa Pinas, eh baka hero pa ang labas niyang lokong magnanakaw na iyan. Imagine, if he can show proof that this thieving couple had committed a crime in violation of US laws, eh di handcuffed itong buteteng asawa ni impakta pagdating pa lang niya sa airport doon. OK ‘yon! Tapos, kulong kasama ng common criminals doon.
Still, no need for the immunity, Anna, because the investigators in America can simply ask him where he is getting such big money to pay his lawyers (hindi lang isa ngayon, tatlo-tatlo pa)! Retention fees ng mga iyan pihadong malaki at galing sa EVat ng mga mahirap sa Pilipinas!!! Then, probably he’ll start spilling the beans when he finds out that his patron saints are not doing their best to help him.
The Tax Franchise Board in CA in fact can start investigating the properties owned by the No. Uno Magnanakaw especially when they check on the credentials of the brother, a reported bum, who is said to be the registered owner.
On the other hand, I believe that the US government has already ordered investigations of these assets, and all that they are waiting for is the consolidation of movements similar to those instigated against Marcos before so the Americans would not look too obvious so as not to jeopardize the covert operations in the Philippines.
Huwag na nating asahan masyado si Bolate to spill the beans sa totoo lang. Bayaan natin si Magsaysay na mag-imbestiga and show his guts in squeezing the truth from this crook bago siya maatake. At least, Atty. Roque, et al have succeeded in being heard and thwart whatever “kabulastugan” the Malacanang squatters have concocted to escape from their legal responsibilities.
Dasal is what we should be doing as a matter of fact that TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!
It’s funny…one who claims to know so much about the US courts and laws; yet was ignorant of simple jury duty that requires US citizens and not including Permanent Residents.
Money laundering is when you bring in money in the U.S. or foreign countries to hide its illegal source and retrieve them later as clean money. U.S. law at present requires anyone entering the U.S. to declare any amount more that the $10 thousands dollars cut off and the foreign banks to monitor the movement or file proper documents for withdrawal or movements of amount more than the cut off limits. But the U.S. would just love for anyone to bring in billions of clean money to invest in their economy. Also the idea of keeping a good eye on money movement is to prevent the financing of groups considered by the U.S. government “Terrorists’ organizations. This is just from experienced, because my baby sister was stopped by U.S, custom for carrying a checque of more than $10 grands given to her by my other sister from Canada for her Condo in N.Y., but as soon as my sister wrote the custom a letter that the amount is a gift there was ‘no problem’.
Vic,
When I bought my property in Mexico, I used my credit card, because over here, credit card payments is more like ATM payments being deducted directly from your bank savings. The amount was more than 2M yen and so I was asked to sign some paper in compliance with some bank rules, and showed the contract from the realtor. I was never asked twice about it.
Frankly, I am glad that I was able to open accounts in the US and Europe long before this money laundering thing became an international thing with the ease of travel and all. Now, they ask you to present a lot of credentials.
Over in Japan, for example, it used to be that if you have money to save, you can open an account. Now, you have to show that you are a long-term resident before you can open an account. Otherwise, you use the colorum banks operating illegally without permits to engage in foreign exchange for instance must less accept depositors even when they claim that they are legal in the Philippines, etc.
http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/20060916com1.html
Gloria to the Bolante rescue
EDITORIAL
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09/16/2006
All doubts that Gloria and her Malacañang are protecting her fugitive ex-Aggie official, Jocelyn “Joc-Joc” Bolante, have vanished, with her, through her Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto Romulo reportedly stating the Arroyo government’s plan to lodge a diplomatic protest against the United States government for a breach of protocol on the issue of Bolante’s canceled US visa.
The argument, while questioning the visa cancellation without informing Bolante first, is that the US should not have dealt directly with the Senate on this arrest issue but with the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).
Setting aside protocols, the truth is, the Arroyo government is looking pretty stupid in announcing its intent to lodge a diplomatic protest, owing to the fact that the US, just like any other sovereign country, has the right to cancel any visa it issues to a foreigner, as well as deny entry to whoever it wants to deny entry. A visa, as everyone who has been issued one, is not a guarantee of entry to that country from where the visa was granted. It is a privilege extended, and that privilege can be revoked — even on a whim of an immigration officer. Moreover, the Arroyo government, if it knows its protocols, should not question the move of the State Department, through US Embassy Manila, to order the cancellation of the visa of one who is not an official of the Philippine government.
Malacañang, reacting to reports of the DFA to lodge a protest, continued to claim that it is not providing protection to Bolante and that he is not being given special treatment, saying, straight-faced, that all it is doing is to provide consular assistance to Bolante, just as it would to any Filipino.
But didn’t Malacañang and the DFA state earlier that Bolante precisely asked to “respect his privacy” which was why they claimed they are clueless about his arrest and detention? Besides, Gloria’s DFA is not known to come to the aid of Filipinos who have been denied entry and lodging a diplomatic protest for that entry denial. More to the point, even as a senator of the republic and former First Lady Loi Estrada was detained and questioned by a US immigration officer, Gloria and her DFA did not move a finger to file a diplomatic protest. If Gloria didn’t do it for an elected official in the Philippine government, why should it do so now, for a non-official like Bolante?
Bolante has been in detention for a little over two months, and his plea for bail has been rejected on a jurisdictional issue while the amicus brief submitted to the US immigration judge has not been rejected, but taken on “advisement.”
It is this amicus brief officially detailing the web of corruption in the P3-billion fertilizer funds scam, which funds had been diverted to the campaign kitty of Gloria Arroyo for the 2004 polls for cheating purposes, that is a big worry for Gloria and her cohorts in crime, which is probably what moves them to intervene in Bolante’s case through a diplomatic protest. Gloria fears that if Bolante stays in detention in the US, he will likely sing a song against the presidential couple — and that would be the end of Gloria and her regime.
But what is strange about this case is Bolante’s insistence in fighting his entry to the US and spending a fortune for his American lawyers, while at the same time claiming that all he wants is to stay in the US for a maximum of two months for dental work to be done on him and to see his children; with his counsels stating, in the habeas corpus petition that he has every intention to go back to the Philippines, with the return ticket offered as proof. If such is his argument, why then does he insist on staying in the US, and in a prison when he can just leave the US and come home and not incur legal fees?
More to the point, if, as Bolante claimed in an immigration officer’s affidavit, the Senate’s arrest order for him was meaningless, since this did not come from a court of law, why then does he not want to return to the Philippines?
Even stranger is Bolante’s plea for private hearings, which was granted. But whatever for, if his is a simple case of fighting to enter the country, with no plans to stay longer than two months in the US and he has not as yet, formally asked for political asylum?
It is, as lawyer Harry Roque says, “weird.” And it is. Bolante says he has a valid visa. He says he has no intention of staying in the US and asks for a period of two months’ stay in the country, this despite his two months’ stay in detention, deprived of his freedom. He fights to enter the country with his canceled visa but says nothing about formally seeking political asylum, even if the DFA itself confirmed that Joc-Joc is seeking political asylum. And there is of course, Gloria and her DFA now panicking to the point of directly intervening in the Bolante case with the announced intention of lodging a diplomatic protest, only to backtrack when flak came.
What else gives?
I agree with the statement that the U.S. can deny entry to anyone even with a valid visa for the reason that may come at the moment of entry. We have similar experience, even we don’t need a pre-approved visa to enter the u.s., we can be asked to make a U-turn at the border or denied boarding our flight at the departing airport where the U.S. customs and immigration maintain a pre-flight check. That could mean that the U.S. may have information of your criminal records or you’re maybe on their no-fly or no-entry list. I remember the old days, when you just have to show your citizenship id or birth certificate (for native born) to enter the U.S. Now you have to show a valid passport and everytime the custom officer at the border will scan it and may or may not wave you in.
Ellen, Anna:
I hope and pray that Atty. Roque will not make the mistake of making any deal with Bolate but uphold the rule of law, and abide by the provision of all applicable laws in dealing with this case.
The Bolate is offering to talk in exchange (kuno) for his US visa. It must be the instruction from the liars overstaying at the palace by the murky river, and it is another ploy.
It is about time Filipinos stop falling into the trap of believing these liars, especially the Bansot who says one thing today and another thing tomorrow. Puede ba, huwag nang paloloko.
It should be, “Magsasabi ka ng totoo o hindi?” Kung hindi, di manigas siya! Hindi na puede iyong parang nakakalokong, “Sinabi ko ba iyon!” Or, “Sino bang gago? Bakit ka naniwala?” ploy of the liar.
Atty. Rogue, makipagtigasan ka rin. The law is on your side. Huwag kang matakot! Ipitin ninyo ni Jun Magsaysay ang gunggong na iyan. Buti nga sa kanya. Ang yabang kasi.
Vic, you say: I remember the old days, when you just have to show your citizenship id or birth certificate (for native born) to enter the U.S. Now you have to show a valid passport and everytime the custom officer at the border will scan it and may or may not wave you in.
Who do you blame for this? Terrorists? Not just them but also those who risk life, legs and limbs to enter another country even without proper permits to work and finding themselves being exploited even by their own government as in the case of Filpinos who are being tagged as “No. 1 Export Commodity.” Ang sagwa ng dating! It’s called human trafficking as a matter of fact.
You bet, Anna, si Fatso ay walang portfolio so he does not have an immunity. Neither does Bolate, who is no longer an official of the Philippine government at present bogus though it is. Puede dumalaw ang mga taga-embassy but they are not allowed to interfere or meddle in the investigation of his case, and this is international procedure as a matter of fact.
Sa totoo lang nag-aaksaya ng pera (pera ng bayan) ng pagkuha ng abogado para lang huwag sumigaw si Bolate. Mabuti rin naman na hindi pa siya ibalik sa Pilipinas dahil walang mangyayari sa imbestigasyon sa Senate na uuwi lang sa sigawan o kundi naman aarte na naman ang mga kumag na may sakit gaya noong Gonzales na hindi pa natuluyan! Kung sabagay pag namatay lalong walang mapapakinabang!
Bakit hindi nahihiya ang mga ito na lahat ng kababuyan nila nabibisto na tuloy kahit na sa ibang bansa? Golly, nagkakalat kung saan-saan! Ipinagmamalaki iyong wala na raw death penalty sa Pilipinas pero ini-execute naman nila ang mga laban sa kanila ng walang due process! Ano iyan?
PATALSIKIN NA, NOW NA!
Yuko,
Talagang tama ka diyan!
“Bakit hindi nahihiya ang mga ito na lahat ng kababuyan nila nabibisto na tuloy kahit na sa ibang bansa? Golly, nagkakalat kung saan-saan! Ipinagmamalaki iyong wala na raw death penalty sa Pilipinas pero ini-execute naman nila ang mga laban sa kanila ng walang due process! Ano iyan?”
anna,
ano ba ang mga ginagawa ng mga ipokrito at ipokrita? ng mga magnanakaw? kawatan? balasubas? di ba magtago ng kanilang mga baho? hohohohohoho!!!!!!
Naku M rivera, kung tago, ok lang, pero even if they tago their baho, they end up releasing the wind… they can’t forever make tago the baho or they will explode…
Hohohoho!
kaboooooom!!! sabog ang tinatagong baho kasama ang nagtatago. ganyan talaga, sasabog sila sa imfatso!!!
I would like to ask Vic if Canadian citizens with Canadian passports need to get a visa to enter the US. I think it’s waived. But what about those who previously was out of status or illegal in the US and moved to Canada. Then, they became Canadian citizens. Can they enter the US or they will still be barred from re-entry?