by Sen. Panfilo Lacson
2nd privilege speech
I rise again today on a matter of personal and collective privilege.
On several occasions, I took the floor of this august hall on very important issues affecting national interest.
Jose Pidal. Hello Garci. The NBN-ZTE Broadband Deal. The Fertilizer Scam. Jueteng Anomaly. The C5 Extension Road Project Double Appropriation. The Pork Barrel Anomalies. Plus many others, the latest of which talked about Joseph Ejercito- Estrada in “Dalawang Mukha ng Sining.”
I did not have to seek out most of these anomalies. They came to me. The easiest and most convenient thing to do was to ignore them. Wala akong magiging kaaway. Tahimik pa sana ang aking buhay. But that would be betraying my oath to the Filipino people as an elected Senator of the Republic.
Perhaps no incumbent senator has had the multiple displeasure of being vilified, his reputation assailed repeatedly than this humble representation. If this is the price to pay for fearlessly contributing my share in the fight against graft and corruption in government, then so be it.
If by exposing people in high places and those in the corridors of power would mean creating bitter enemies or losing friends thus making my life miserable, I am willing to pay that price.
Which is why I was aghast at how the gentleman from San Juan, in his privilege speech in this same hall last week accused this representation of being an administration ally, simply because I exposed the true character of his father, the former president.
Everyone and his uncle know that this representation does not receive any pork barrel. I can face any cabinet official or agency head, any executive of any government financial institution or GFI, or government-owned and controlled corporation, or GOCC and before everyone in this august chamber, declare without hesitation, that I have not asked them for any government project for myself or for financial advantage.
The gentleman from San Juan also mentioned that sometime in December of last year, one of the lawyers of former P/Sr Supt Mancao sought an audience with him and requested financial assistance for his client because I have allegedly abandoned Mancao and my other former men in the defunct PAOCTF.
I would like to make a brief comment and confession –
Simula pa noong 2001 magpahanggang ngayon na ako ay nagtatalumpati sa inyong harapan, ay patuloy kong sinusustentuhan ang mga pamilya ng dati kong tauhan na nakakulong sa Manila City Jail. Kasama na dito ang mga pamilya ni dating P/Sr Supt Michael Ray Aquino, Cezar Mancao at Glen Dumlao, hanggang ang dalawa ay napauwi dito sa Pilipinas kamakailan, ay tuloy-tuloy ang financial assistance ko sa kanilang lahat sa abot ng aking makakayanan at sa tulong na rin ng mga taong nailigtas namin sa mga kidnappers o natulungan habang ako ay naglilingkod pa bilang isang alagad ng batas. Hindi dahil may kinalaman ako at may dapat akong pagtakpan sa kasong Dacer-Corbito, kung hindi sa dahilang sila ay mga dati kong tauhan at naaawa ako sa kanilang pamilya na nangangailangan ng tulong kaya minarapat kong sila ay tulungan.
Samantalang ang taong maaaring may malaking kinalaman sa pagdurusa ng mga dati naming tauhan, kahit isang singkong duling ay walang itinulong sa kanila magpahanggang ngayon! Ako po lahat ang sumasalo sa problemang wala naman akong kinalaman.
That plain. That simple, Mr President.
Before I tackle the Dacer-Corbito double murder case, please allow me to tell you some short stories about a son, a brother and an elected senator of the Republic.
The following are excerpts from a telephone conversation that transpired between two male persons, both in the United States at that time, one in Los Angeles, California, the other, in Las Vegas, Nevada. One of the persons on the line was about to be extradited to testify in a plunder case then pending trial at the Sandiganbayan involving a long-time friend and former president of his country.
The original charge sheet included the father, the mother and a son. Hence:
(Conversation between two male persons on or about summertime of 2006 in America)
Voice Nr 1: Pare, ano ba plano mo pag-uwi mo?
Voice Nr 2: Pare, ‘di ko alam eh.
Voice Nr 1: Pare, kung uuwi ka… kung ano man ang plano mo, huwag mo na kaming idamay ni mommy; si daddy na lang…. kaya niya namang i-depensa ang sarili niya… May ambisyon pa ako. Magpre-presidente pa ako… ako ang bahala sa ‘yo.
Voice Nr 2: Bahala na. Di ko alam pag-uwi ko….
Of course we now know that the father was convicted, while the mother and son were acquitted.
The man in Las Vegas could not believe what the man in Los Angeles told him. But the fact that the source of this phone conversation is not only reliable but unimpeachable, I myself could not believe this story.
The next story is about two brothers, both presidential sons at that time, and a jueteng operator in Baguio City. The elder brother, after being informed that a younger brother was receiving a monthly jueteng payola of P1M, called the attention of the jueteng operator and told him, thus:
“‘Yung P1M na ibinibigay mo sa kapatid ko, hatiin mo… sa akin mo ibigay ang kalahati… Baka gamitin lang pambili ng drugs yung pera.”
Aside from that additional P500,000 sequestered from the younger brother, the elder brother had a regular monthly payola of P800,000 from another jueteng operator from Bulacan, P1M from Chavit Singson and unspecified amount from yet another gambling lord from Pampanga.
Talk about betrayal, Mr. President.
The third story involves an incumbent Cabinet secretary and an elected senator of the Republic. Hence:
“Sec, natalo ako ng P10M. Bigyan mo ako ng project bukas.”
The following day, a member of the senator’s staff would call on the secretary to follow up on the project. I had no time to check if a project was given, and if so, how much.
Mr. President, distinguished colleagues, the three short stories that I shared with you only show the rotten moral values of that son, brother and public official.
Now, let me go back to the issue at hand.
Multiple theories have been imagined, crafted and spread with impunity to show that I had something to do with the twin murders. Behind it all are scheming minions of the Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo administration and lately joined by the very same person who, along with this representation and four or five other personalities were named by former Police Sr Supt Cezar Mancao in his open court testimony last September 3, 2009.
He is former President Joseph Ejercito-Estrada, recently convicted for plunder but immediately pardoned by the incumbent president.
In his informal talks with some of our common friends, he would maliciously albeit with feigned ignorance ask, “Ano ba ang galit ni Ping kay Dacer?” or, “Bakit kaya galit na galit si Ping kay Bubby Dacer?” Dapat ay sarili niya mismo ang tanungin niya at siguradong alam niya ang mga kasagutan doon.
Mr. Estrada also had the temerity to issue a press statement attributing to me supervision of Oplan or Operation Delta which according to Mr Mancao was designed to neutralize Salvador “Bubby” Dacer. Mabuti pa siya, alam pala niya na may Oplan o Operation Delta. Samantalang ako, sa mga pahayagan at kamakailan ko lang nalaman na may ganun palang operation plan.
The Swiss philosopher, Henri Frederic Amiel once said, “Truth is not only violated by falsehood; it may be equally outraged by silence.”
Following the arrest and extradition of Cezar Mancao and Glen Dumlao, the media have been following this story like a telenovela.
In the midst of all these events was the unexpected relief of the erstwhile Secretary of the Department of Justice, the very talkative Raul Gonzalez. My Malacañang sources informed me that the Palace was not happy with the way the irrepressible Gonzalez telegraphed through the media what could have been a clockwork effort by former Presidential Security Group head, now ISAFP Chief Romeo Prestoza, in convincing Mancao to what he himself testified on cross examination by defense lawyers as “fabricated evidence” to implicate me in this case.
Thus, on August 12, 2008, Cezar Mancao was interviewed over radio station DZMM. Following are the excerpts from the transcript of that interview:
Q: (Ted Failon) – Dacer-Corbito case, pending arrest warrant, nililigawan ka raw ni Col Prestoza?
A: (Mancao) – September nagsimula yun. Tinawagan niya ako dito sa bahay na ito, itong teleponong gamit ngayon, nagpakilala siyang siya si Romy Prestoza, bagong halal na PSG chief sa panahong yan. Binigay niya sa akin ang kanyang cell phone number at nag-offer sa akin.
Q: (Ted Failon) – Anong offer?
A: (Mancao) – After siya magpakilala, sinabihan niya akong siya ay bagong halal na PSG chief. Sabi niya masyado raw maingay si Senator Lacson, parang asong ulol, gusto niya patahimikin. Gusto niya akong gamitin, in-offer-an nila ako at buong pamilya ko na manirahan sa Singapore. Lahat na kailangan ko, provide nila…”
Earlier, on August 6, 2008, Mancao was also interviewed by GMA-7 reporter, Maki Pulido. Hence:
“Inalok ako tsaka buong pamilya ko na manirahan sa Singapore. Bigyan ng kung ano, kailangan namin talagang kung ano kailangan ha, in general. Tsaka ito suportahan kami…”
“Hindi naman namin napagusapan ang detalye pero in general para sirain, para manahimik na si Lacson, gamitin daw ako.”
“Iniipit na ako eh, alam mo masyado na ‘tong panggigipit. Ayoko na sanang sumali-sali sa ganyan Maki eh. Ayoko na sanang pa-interview pero sana naman ‘wag na masyadong idamay pa ako diyan sa gulo ng pulitika.”
Cezar Mancao informed me of his conversation with now Maj. Gen. Prestoza through text messages with an assurance that he would stick to the truth and nothing more. I have kept some of those text messages in the folder of my cell phone. I would like to share the same with you, Mr President, distinguished colleagues. Thus –
Message details, from – 0019546732576 (Mancao’s Florida number). Date: 01/04/2008. Time 07:31. Type: text message.
The text message reads:
“Ur ryt,sir! Maricar (Mancao’s wife) said it too.I was hoping i can contribute something 2 propel u at d end.Rest assured of my loyalty.I will (sic) desist d temptattn.Sleep soundly,SIR.”
On several occasions, Cezar Mancao had confided to some people when asked pointblank if this representation had anything to do with the Dacer-Corbito case. He told Ms. Teresita Ang-See that I had no participation, direct or otherwise, when the latter asked him that question sometime in 2003 in the US. He likewise told Malaya columnist, Mr. Lito Banayo the same thing when they saw each other, also in the US sometime in April 2006. And lately, after he had already returned to the country, he repeated the same assertion to a common friend that I had nothing to do with the crime being investigated by the DOJ.
To all these, I now appeal to Cezar Mancao – please abide by the ideals of our Alma Mater, the Philippine Military Academy and have the courage to speak only the truth, both in private conversations as well as before the court and in any formal investigation. I have suffered long enough before the bar of public opinion. The anxiety and anguish keep on building up on my family and my siblings. My parents both died without being given the pleasure of seeing their son vindicated.
Why Cezar Mancao succumbed and decided to sign his February 14, 2009 affidavit is a matter between him and God. I am still hopeful he has not forgotten what God told us through Moses: “Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
In Mancao’s court testimony and Dumlao’s sworn affidavit, they narrate that in the early part of October 2000, they went to the office of then P/Sr Supt Michael Ray Aquino to ask him what the so-called “Operation Delta” was all about. Again, excerpts from that supposed conversation as per narration made by Glen Dumlao in his first and handwritten sworn affidavit reveal the following:
“When we reached the office of P/Supt Aquino, P/Supt Mancao asked: Noy, ano ba ang special operations na ito? P/Supt Aquino answered: Kay kuwan yan, Mr Dacer. OK na yan sa Malacanang, pinag-uusapan na yan – Pinag-uusapan na yan. P/Supt Mancao again queried: Clear ba ito sa Boss natin, kay 71? (Senator Lacson is a member of PMA class 1971). P/Supt Aquino answered: Sila (Malacanang) na daw bahala sa kanya.. They (Malacañang) said they will take care of informing him (Lacson).”
My other set of Malacañang informants also told me that Raul Gonzalez tried to convince his President to extend his stint as DOJ Secretary by at least two months by telling PGMA that he intended to resolve the case against me in sixty days record time to which, Mrs Arroyo retorted in her usual “taray” fashion by saying, “Eh, yun na nga eh!…”
Not known to many who are following this case, Cezar Mancao and Glen Dumlao, to-date have executed three sworn statements each. In this case, the contents of the affidavits are modified at each turn, and it would take some patience and perhaps extra-professional expertise to separate the grains of truth from the specks of dirt in the testimonies given by both affiants.
All of the aforementioned affidavits do not contain any statement linking me to the crime, except the one executed by Cezar Mancao on February 14, 2009. in the other affidavits, statements made by Mancao and Dumlao even exculpate me from the crime, attesting to the fact that indeed, I had no knowledge much less authorization for its execution.
In the August 27, 2009 banner story of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, the legal counsel for Mancao, Atty. Ferdinand Topacio said that in a court hearing, his client identified me as the one who carried out President Estrada’s order to abduct and kill Bubby Dacer. The official transcript of the records of the court proceeding flatly belies Atty. Topacio’s statement before the media who interviewed him. That made me think – Is this what the lawyer and the prosecutors wanted Mancao to say at the hearing, in accordance with a scripted scenario?
Whether Atty Topacio made those statements out of recklessness or out of malice is of minor importance. What is more significant is that it ruined my reputation both as a senator and as a citizen of this country. By making such untrue and malicious statement to the press, Atty. Topacio clearly violated Rule 13.02 under Canon 13 of the Code of Professional Responsibility that states: “A lawyer shall not make public statements in the media regarding a pending case tending to arouse public opinion for or against a party.”
When reminded that his reckless statement can make him subject of disbarment proceedings, Atty. Topacio conveniently blamed the media by claiming that he was misquoted. Kung sa o dalawang reporter lang sana ang nakarinig ng kanyang sinabi, baka umubra pa ang kanyang palusot.
I am almost tempted to use more colorful language for Atty Topacio’s behavior and demeanor as a member of the bar, but I would rather express my condemnation in formal administrative and criminal complaints that I will file against him.
Atty Topacio’s cheap media propaganda tactic is simply the latest of many insidious efforts to ruin my reputation or implicate me in a criminal case by resorting to falsehoods.
Our colleague, the gentleman from San Juan City, quoted a statement issued by the same Atty. Ferdinand Topacio, in effect saying that in his “honest opinion as a lawyer of Cezar Mancao, he believes that Senator Lacson is the only one being directly linked by his client to the twin murders.” To all the lawyers in this august chamber, since when does the opinion of the lawyer of a witness in a criminal case carry weight and probative value?
It is my humble submission that the said opinion is at its best, a self-serving, uncalled for remark from an officer of the court. Worse, it is unethical, even criminal.
Only last Friday, September 18, 2009, at around 2 o’clock in the afternoon, Glen Dumlao was visited by a lawyer inside his DOJ safehouse who conveyed a message from the same Atty Ferdinand Topacio to convince him to corroborate the affidavit executed by a newfound false labandera witness that I had a shouting match with Mr Dacer in a beach resort in Batangas. Finding Glen Dumlao unconvinced to perjure himself and cooperate with them, the lawyer said:
“Papaano ‘yan? Iipitin nila ang reinstatement mo sa PNP kung hindi mo susundin ang gusto nila. To which, Dumlao replied, “Eh di hindi na lang ako magpupulis. Magsasaka na lang ako.” The lawyer added, “Mukhang nagkakasabwatan na sina Topacio at Erap.”
Mukha nga, Mr President. Kasi, ang bilis makakuha ng statement of support ang kasamahan nating senador na taga San Juan galing kay Atty Topacio.
Ano ba namang klaseng mga abugado ito, Mr President? Are they not aware of the crime of “subornation of perjury”?
In fact just last Sunday afternoon, Atty. Topacio reported to the former president at his Polk Street residence, where other prominent lawyers of Mr. Estrada were in attendance. One of them could not believe what he saw, for Mr. Topacio is lawyering for witness Mancao, not Mr. Estrada. So shocked that this prominent member of the Bar informed me.
Mr. Topacio was even bragging to a semi-retired publicist, once press undersecretary to the former president, how he lambasted me in a press forum earlier, as if reporting, ‘mission accomplished’ and asking ‘the envelope please.’
This administration and its cohorts will stop at nothing to deliver misery at my front door.
This utter disregard for the truth is best exemplified in the following excerpts from Glen Dumlao’s affidavit dated May 20, 2003. At the time of this conversation, he was under the custody of the PNP starting second quarter of 2001:
“I experienced my greatest fear when I was brought to the office of ISAFP Chief Col (Victor) Corpus at 7:30 am on December 17, 2002.
During the meeting, Col Corpus did almost all of the talking like a mad man. Col Corpus told me that – ‘sige, magdiretsahan tayo, kung di ka tutulong sa amin, ibibigay ka naming (sic) kay Ping para patayin ka na. Ayaw namin ang katotohanan. Kung amin ka, dapat total support at i-pin down natin si Ping.
Bibigyan ka namin ng magandang buhay at posisyon. Andito lahat ang makakatulong sa ‘yo. Pero kung hindi, magkakaleche-leche na ang buhay mo. Nagkakaintindihan ba tayo? Ibigay ninyo sa aking custody ang taong ito. kasi play safe siya eh, takot kay Lacson. Dito sa ISAFP, I promise you, dalawang araw lang, ang dami ng ikakanta yan.”
Incidentally, I was informed by my lawyers that in a hearing of an ongoing libel case that I filed against Victor Corpus and other parties, he apologized in open court for vilifying me publicly, using characters like Ador Mawanay, Mary “Rosebud” Ong, Devnani and others, mostly in public hearings conducted by the Committee on Public Order and Illegal Drugs chaired by the late Sen Robert Barbers.
Glen Dumlao was subjected to threats and intimidation while in police custody and even now that he is under the protective custody of the DOJ. He suffered mental, emotional, psychological and even physical pressure. When he did not give in, he was promised a good position and comfortable life. In spite of these, he consistently refused to perjure himself and sacrifice the truth for the sake of justice that has been eluding the Dacer and Corbito families. I cannot help but admire his character. His Alma Mater, the Philippine National Police Academy can be truly proud of him despite the confessions he publicly made of his past sins.
My own Alma Mater, the Philippine Military Academy is not short of alumni who truly and continuously live up to the ideals of the institution and our motto — Courage, Integrity and Loyalty in the face of difficult odds or the temptation of financial benefits. Nothing less must be expected of a fellow cavalier like Cezar Mancao.
Mr. President, I have been a law enforcer before I became a senator. I uphold the law. I arrest criminals. I know that I must fulfill my oath of office and follow only legal orders.
Kung sa jueteng nga na bukod sa may milyon milyong piso akong matatanggap bawat buwan at may basbas at utos pa ang Commander-in-Chief, hindi ako sumunod o umayon, sa murder pa kaya?
Last Friday, I read in the news quoting Atty. Demetrio Custodio Jr. who represents the Dacer family as legal counsel that a certain “labandera” volunteered to testify that this representation had a shouting match with Mr Dacer in a beach resort in Batangas one week before he was abducted. On the same page, Atty Custodio revealed that the Dacer family is willing to accept me as a state witness if I divulge information pointing to the real mastermind behind the twin murders.
The “labandera” story appears to be a small-minded gambit to make me accept the offer. Thanks but no thanks. We must not allow our search for the truth to be colored by personal motivations nor sidetracked by idiocy.
In the first place, I was not a close acquaintance of Mr Dacer – certainly not close enough to spend time with him in a beach resort, be it in Batangas or elsewhere. I hate beaches as a matter of fact. And I don’t remember having gone to any beach in Batangas in my entire life.
In the second place, I was not a participant nor had any involvement in the crime, so how would I qualify as a state witness?
It obviously appears that the “labandera” story was concocted to support yet another theory behind the crime – that I had a personal motive to harm Mr Dacer.
What I can assure the Dacer and Corbito families is that I am willing to even sit down with them privately and share VOLUNTARILY AND UNCONDITIONALLY whatever I know about the abduction and murder of Mr Dacer and his driver. This representation, Mr President is as interested as they are to finally bring the real mastermind of this dastardly crime before the bar of justice.
Both my parents died last year. I know how it feels to lose our loved ones. The Dacer and Corbito families suffered their loss under extra-ordinary circumstances. I fully understand their grief and frustration that justice for their parents remain elusive up to now.
The objective quest for truth and justice must be paramount.
The guilty must answer for his crime. The innocent must be unburdened by baseless accusations and persecution.
Let me tell you another story.
The great Thomas Edison was at one time conducting a series of experiments. A laboratory assistant, who was impatient with the results so far, told Mr Edison “Sir, the last one was our 700th experiment and so far, we have not been successful.” To which the great man of science replied, “Good. That means we have eliminated 700 ways that will lead us to nowhere.”
I hope our Department of Justice with our zealous prosecutors will get a cue from Mr. Edison. I am not suggesting that the DOJ try 700 ways to get to the bottom of the Dacer-Corbito double-murder case. But to include me in the list of persons to answer for this heinous crime, simply because I am one very vocal critic of this administration impedes the wheels of justice, leads it astray and nowhere near the truth. We do not have 700 suspects in this case, so the process of elimination will be much easier and quicker than in the case of Mr Edison’s experiments. It is basic in any crime investigation to look at three simple elements – motive, instrument and opportunity. They should first ask who has all three and they will not go wrong.
This will bring me to another curious case – the disappearance of Mr. Edgar Bentain, the video operator of Pagcor who came out with a footage of then candidate Vice President Estrada gambling in the casino.
This much I can share, in the meantime, to our distinguished colleagues, the family of Mr Bentain and the Filipino people. Sometime in the middle of January 1999, one day after Edgar Bentain was abducted somehwere in Roxas Blvd and killed somewhere in Laguna, a police officer, still active at that time, went to Polk St in Greenhills and reported compliance with a “mission accomplished.” The house occupant simply said, “Sige, sabihin mo sa mga bata, maraming salamat.”
I did not identify the criminal simply because I did not have any participation or direct personal knowledge of these criminal activities while they were taking place years ago. My investigation is ongoing even as I speak today. But I have gathered enough facts and data to provide the useful leads to unmask the mastermind’s true identity and his active participation including other persons who were barely mentioned in the conduct of investigation.
True to my expectations, many are those who questioned my motives or the veracity of my statements. But to-date, my statements before this august chamber were sufficiently and independently corroborated and affirmed by other parties. My assertions appeal to logic and common sense. They can stand the test of truth.
Why speak only now? To me, the more relevant and all-important question is, DID I SPEAK THE TRUTH?
To anyone who dares challenge the truthfulness of my assertion, let him speak up now.
There can be a thousand reasons for why, how and when truth will find a way to stand out but when it does, we must welcome it with open arms, instead of questioning its timing and motive.
Cold reason, not heated passion or blind emotion spoken through fiery but empty rhetoric will enlighten our path to truth and justice for Mr Dacer and Mr. Corbito and their grieving families.
Justice for them will be justice for all Filipinos.
Let me end this with some excerpts from a TV interview with Glen Dumlao.
ellen,
Paki-publish din yung speech ni Enrile. Maganda i-compare kasi depensa kay Erap yun kay Enrile. Gusto ko makita kung utak Jinggoy din siya.
Napakinggan ko yung kay Sen. Enrile, I was touched by his speech…:)
We have a lot of cowards serving in the Senate, those who use their positions to do nothing but to enrich themselves,, those close their eyes to the anomalies committed in government and continue about “doing their duties in the Senate” as if they are honourable people when in fact they use their senate seats as some kind of glorious shield to continue doing their bad deeds… they are legalists and pretend to be law abiding citizens when in fact they twist the laws to their own advantage.
I don’t believe Ping Lacson is one of them… Matter of fact, Lacson, has consistently been the only one who had been fearless in denouncing the crimes of the Pidal couple despite absence of help from his coward colleagues.
I liken Lacson to Claro Recto, the late august member of the Senate who, because he was brave and uncompromising, never made it to the presidency.
The Philippines finds itself in moral limbo because many of its leaders have a warped moral sense of values. Sadly, their supporters turn a blind eye and would rather prize loyalty to a person — never mind if that person has a sense of right or wrong or if that person lacks moral vision.
No wonder the Philippine is still in deep moral and financial shit!
Filipinos who insist on voting for politicians who are brazenly corrupt, who do not have a sense of right from wrong, who use their office to abuse, etc., out of sheer loyalty, deserve the country and the leaders they get.
Manuel,
Alam mo namang yang putanginang Enrile na yan habang tumatanda ay utay unggoy din!
Wala na bang matapang at uncompromising na tao sa Senate kung hindi si Lacson lang?
Anong nangyari sa iba?
Maraming Filipinos na takot sa matapang na senador…
Si Honasan, iyong sidekick ni Enrile, ano na ang ginagawa niya? Si Enrile at Honasan — I DON’T LIKE THEM!
Enrile is my ninong sa binyag (he and my Dad were good friends dating back from the late 50s) — does that mean I’m a traitor because I won’t vote for him if he runs in the election? (Puwede pa ba siyang mag run?)
Enrile is corrupt so I won’t vote for him. I never asked him for a favour even when I was working in Pinas because he is corrupt. Once I ran into him in Prince Albert sa InterCon… nagulat siya and asked me, when did you arrive, I said, I’m leaving tomorrow… etc etc. bottom line is I made him understand we (foreign company I headed at the time) didn’t need his help nor wanted his help.
I think the only favour I’ve ever asked of him was when a very close friend of mine who was studying in UP was picked up during Martial Law (I was in the US); it was a shock because she was so colegiala type and I never thought she was into this pro-Joma thing. Anyway, my Mom announced it to me over the phone, her parents were apparently in tears and so my Mom asked me to ask ninong to make an exception.
I was soooo really really inis because I’ve never liked asking for favours of anyone but I did. I sent a telegram to ninong pleading to let my friend go. His assistant or someone from his office wired me back later on saying it was taken care of. My friend of course was happy. She’s now happily married living in the US.
I was soooo galit at my Mom because I said, why should it be me — why not her or Daddy. But they thought because I was the inaanak and the girl who was picked up was my close friend, it would seem the natural thing to do. And of course, it was! But darn, I didn’t like doing it.
“tuloy-tuloy ang financial assistance ko sa kanilang lahat sa abot ng aking makakayanan at sa tulong na rin ng mga taong nailigtas namin sa mga kidnappers o natulungan habang ako ay naglilingkod pa bilang isang alagad ng batas.”
Bakit niya sinusustentuhan ang mga alagad niyang kriminal o suspect pa lang? Kung tama ang mga pinag-gagawa nila at naa-ayon sa ating Batas di wala sanang problema. Tinutulungan daw siya ng mga nailigtas nila sa mga kidnapers … kinikikilan pala niya ang mga biktima. Baka siya ang utak sa pangingidnap na laganap noong siya ay nasa katungkulan pa.
My theory is this:
Part of the compromise entered into between Erap and Glueria is to blame Lacson for the twin murders of Dacer & Corbito. This is to prevent Lacson’s presidential bid.
If i remember it right, it was DILG Puno who moved heaven and hell to arrange for an early release of Erap. May pahikbi-hikbi pa nga si Puno noong matapos nagkapirmahan.
May pahikbi-hikbi pa nga si Puno noong matapos nagkapirmahan.
Punyetang nag artista pa! Baka gustong ilagay siya ni Erap sa isang film niya?
I also believe that even the MBC is against Lacson’s presidency, and so they are jumping into the Noynoy bandwagon like they did in ’86.
Ang balimbingan ay nag-umpisa na ng maaga, simula kay DFA Bert Romulo. Marami pang darating…
At kung manalo man si Noynoy sa 2010, sigaw kaagad ng RECONCILIATION with the Arroyo. Bati-bati na naman.
Naaninag ko na ‘yan.
This will support my theory, post no. 12, above:
One of my favourite quotes: “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)
And then when they do something, they are either incarcerated or villified.
Naknampuchang buhay naman yan sa Philippines!!!
So the big question “Why only now?” that was being asked by Jinggoy has been answered twice already by Ping (his first and now this his second privilege speech).
Gloria, Mike, Raul Gonzales and Erap and Junggoy should have known better. You don’t pull a dragon’s tail if yours is longer.
Sa mga linguists and grammarians diyan.
When you talk to your colleagues about your Boss, isn’t the following how you will phrase the question?
“Does the Boss know about that?”
“Alam ba ni Boss yan”?
“Ammu ni Boss dayta?” (Ilocano)
“Balu ni Boss ita?” (Kapamapangan)
“El Jefe sabe de esa cosa?”
Mancao’s phraseology is quite curious:
Buhay Pinoy nga naman bumaliktad na ang istorya … Erap at Glorya na ngayon ang magkakampi. Ano pa????????? lol
Malakas na ang tandem ni Noynoy at Mar palagay ko naman leading na itong dalawang ito. Hayaan niyo na lang si Erap … lalaban yan ng parehas. Hindi mandadaya yan. Huwag niyo ng bugbugin pa. Kahit sabihin niyo pa sa lahat ng mga kamag-anak niyo na wag iboto si Erap … oks lang yan. Hindi ba kayo na-awa sa tao habang yong kasalukuyan ay mas grabe pa ang mga pinag-gagawa.
Enrile stood up in defense of Erap with a richy embellished ulterior motive: to ingratiate himself with Erap and the Erap masa. He badly needs their votes for his reelection bid next year. ‘Yun lang ‘yun. 😉
Sax,
Extraordinary point!
“Was there another “Boss” running Operation Delta?”
“Clear ba ito sa Boss natin, kay 71?”blockqoute>
And your question: “Was there another “Boss” running
Operation Delta?”
Absolutely smashing point!
Sinasabi natin na si Glorya ang pinaka-“worst”, pinaka-“corrupt” na naging Pangulo natin … bakit si Erap ang inu-upakan? Bakit sinabi ni Lacson na para alam natin kung anong klase ang pagka-tao ni Erap? Sino ba siya para sabihin sa “akin” o sa “inyo” ang lahat ng ito? May pinag-aralan naman ako o kayo at alam natin ang tama o mali … bakit niya isinisermon kung ano ang tunay na pagka-tao ni Erap? Si Lacson ba ay alam niya ang tama o mali????????
Ang problema natin ay itong mga Arroyo ngayon …. ayusin muna natin ito bago natin suyurin lahat ang mga mali o pagkakamali ng mga naka-raang Pangulo kasama na si Erap. Alam kung lahat sila ay nagkasala sa sambayang Pilipino.
kapinoyan, tama lang naman siguro ang ginawa ni Enrile na ipagtanggol niya yong kaibigan niya kung talagang magkaibigan nga sila. Kahit naman siguro ikaw ang nasa posisyon niya kung ang inapi ay iyong matalik na kaibigan. Kung magsing-utak sila ni Jinggoy .. oks lang yon.
Sino ba si 71? Nagtuturo na rin lang, why not ask Mancao to be definite who is who?
Nakakasawa na ang topic na ito. Dapat ay si atty sax ang iupo nila sa korte at himayin ito at nang meron mangyari kesa sa banatan sila ng banatan na ikinatutuwa ng “another Boss” running Operation Delta.
Tedanz,
Si Erap, “lalaban yan ng parehas. Hindi mandadaya yan.”
Agree! Wala akong problema dyan kay Erap sa isyu na yan.
Chi
“alam na ng boss natin kay ’71” could only refer to Ping (he’s PMA Class ’71)
Implying that someone else was heading operation Delta (because if the boss “natin” ay hindi alam, so sino ang may alam?)
My point is, the use of the possessive ‘natin” is necessitated when there is another – a boss nila. If you are all from the same team, you will just say “the boss”, or “si boss”, or el Jefe.
When you are among your siblings, you say “tatay natin”, onlywhen the topic is about your father, and other fathers. If not, you say “si tatay”. So a “natin” implies that there is a “nila”.
nagtataka lang ako dito e… kung hindi si Lacson o erap and mastermind… bakit silang dalawa ang nagaaway at nagtuturuan? Bakit hindi nila ituro kung sino talga ang real mastermind? ganon ba kalaki takot nila sa mastermind?
Got it, Anna.
Oo nga noh, atty sax. Galing mo a!
perl, baka pareho nilang hindi alam dahil sa ‘lalim’ ng operasyon.
Kasi, kung isa sa kanilang dalawa ay napuntos na yan sa kanilang bangayan. Kahit nga ang mga witness at affidavit ayaw tukuyin ng definite ang kanilang pangalan. It’s so abvious that the witnesses are just playing along to save their asses and there’s someone orchestrating with a long wand.
So a “natin” implies that there is a “nila”.
Absolutely Sax. Could be too that the possessive “natin” could mean “OUR DIRECT BOSS” as opposed to the BIG BIG BOSS???
Pero nabitin ako sa portion about Bentain.
Pero nabitin ako sa portion about Bentain.
Me too…
Jinggoy defending his father and himself said on tv:
“You can fault us for many things but corruption and murder is not in our vocabulary.”
Pasaway na patawa pa ang unggoy.
Ang NATIN ay tumutukoy sa mga nag–uusap, hindi sa pinag–uusapan. Halimbawa: Approved ba ng Moderator NATIN ang ating comments? Ang Moderator ay iisa – si Maám Ellen. Ang NATIN ay tayo, ang mga nagkó–comment. Sa praseng ”Tatay NATIN,” ang NATIN ay tumutukoy sa magkakapatid na nag–uusap. Ngunit ang Tatay ay iisa.
Huling halimbawang unawa ng lahat: Manalangin tayo sa Ama NATIN na sumasa-langit. 💡 😉
Yung bang kay Joe Pring at Zarcal hindi kunektado kay Erap?
Tounge, baka alam mo ito.
Habang nag speech si Lacson, kalahati ng tv mukha ni Jinggoy na nakangisi, nakakainis tingnan. Maporma at napakayabang ang dating niya. Gusto din pala nyang maging presidente. Ha ha ha, inggit siguro sya kay Noy ngayon. Baka kahit VP sa kangkungan bagsak nya.
Para sa akin irrelevant ang speech ni Enrile, kaya siguro ako nakatulog.
What do you make of a man like Ping Lacson you accepted, welcomed and trusted in your household and all the while gathering dossiers and making records of everything and when the determined time comes, use it against you? – A befitting description of such kind of thing is: He is some kind of a snake or a scheming RAT.
I heard this before and recently I read it about General Carlos P. Romulo’s, statement when he was being persuaded to speak against Marcos and I quote:”
“ I am not a CAD and I am not about to RAT on someone who, in his own ways, had been kind to me!’” – General Carlos P Romulo, a very great man and Mr. United Nation himself.
Truth to be exposed, I agree has no expiration date. But timing is suspect. Why now? Not before. If Lacson is an honest and principled man as he claims to be, he should not waited this long eight years from then. Right there and then if he really can’t stomach Erap it’s so easy to get out. But the fact that he chose to stay only shows his another dark side; besides being a rat he is also an opportunist. He knows the drawing power of Erap and he needs his help in his political plans. And how many times did he ask for his endorsement? And without Erap’s adoption and endorsement it’s doubtful if he ever got himself elected as senator considering his checkered past as a military and police officer.
Why now?
Florry, as Tongue had repeated a few times here, it was Erap who started this drama when he pointed at Lacson as the one responsible for Dacer’s disappearance.
And I have asked this question several times as well but so far have not had any reply (maybe you will be kind enough to answer):
What did you expect Lacson to do? Keep quiet and accept Erap’s ratting on him sitting down?
http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=7214
TonGuE-tWisTeD – September 16, 2009 7:59 am Open mind, at saka open eyes. Ito ang kailangan ngayon. Makasampung beses nang inulit na kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito. Uulitin ko uli baka natakpan lang ng muta yung una. Kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito. Ayan, naka-bold pa. Baka itatanong na naman kung bakit ngayon lang. Hindi naman si Ping ang mali ang timing, si Erap, hahaha. Uulitin ko pa uli!
Ala eh, filipino grammar na pinaguusapan… matanglinghaga talga script sa decer-corbito… guluhin ko lang ng konti ah…
Boss natin above was referring to 71.
“Clear ba ito sa Boss natin, kay 71?”
While here, Boss natin was referring to someone else.
“Clear ba ito sa Boss natin? kay 71?”
Ah…2 separate phrases nga ano? could be…
1) ““Clear ba ito sa Boss natin?”
and perhaps follwoed by:
2) [and what about] kay 71?”
AdeBrux,
Makulit lang ang tatalo sa makulit. Paulit-ulitinin man nilang itanong yan… paulit-ulitin na lang din nating sagutin…
Paulit-ulitinin man nilang itanong yan… paulit-ulitin na lang din nating sagutin…
hahahahaha!
”Boss NATIN, kay 71.” Ang NATIN ay yúng mga operatives na nag–uusap. Ang Boss ay iisa – si 71. A newscast deciphers ”71” as a PMAer of Class–71 – referring to PING… who makes PUNG! to Erap.
Ann,
It was Mancao’s affidavit that poiunts to Lacson as the mastermind.
But even if Erap did it, it’s not enough reason to turn himself into a rat and ran amok. He will not be imprisoned on that statement alone. We still have the courts to determine the guilt or innocence of both men, so why lose his cool? His real reason is purely political because Erap refused his plea to withdraw and support his chosen candidate that is Noynoy. The Dacer-Corbito case is only a sideshow.
It’s just the character of the man.
Tamang tama ka Florry … si Mancao ang unang nagsabit kay Lacson at nagbanggit ng Oplan Delta. Nasa America pa noon si Mancao. Bakit naman sasabihin ni Erap yang Oplan Delta na yan kung hindi nabanggit doon sa Affidavit ni Mancao. Pati ako ay magdududa na rin kung bakit alam ni Erap yang Oplan na yan.
florry,
there was a press statement from Erap before Lacson delivered his 1st speech:
Mr. Estrada had the temerity to issue a press statement that I was the one who knew and in fact supervised what former police officer Cezar Mancao had testified in court as “Operation or Oplan Delta”, allegedly a special operations plan designed to neutralize Salvador “Bubby” Dacer.
Mabuti pa si Mr. Estrada, alam niyang may “Oplan Delta.” Ako, sa mga pahayagan at kamakailan ko lamang narinig at nalaman na mayroon palang “Oplan Delta.”
Sa halip na i-depensa na lang niya ang sarili niya, bakit siya kailangang magturo ng iba?
-Lacson
His real reason is purely political because Erap refused his plea to withdraw and support his chosen candidate that is Noynoy.
This is probably true. But you should also understand that it is his duty as a senator to warn the filipino voters against corrupt candidate ot govt offcl.
On the matter of wrong timing, my take, serialized:
Filipinos are ambivalent on matters involving time, demanding precision in sports, but delightfully imprecise (read tardy) in starting the event itself. The leisureliness on time is pridefully called “Filipino time”.
Time is a riddle. Man lays claim to its invention (calendar, clock) but is helpless in reversing or stopping its progress, and it serves man as both servant and master. One author said, “People relate to time in many different ways. Referees call time; prisoners serve time; musicians mark time; historians record time; loafers kill time; statisticians keep time. But no matter how people relate to time, the fact remains that all of us are given the same amount of time. There are only 24 hours per day, 168 hours per week. Use them.” Thomas Mann, novelist, Nobel laureate (1875-1955) wrote “Time has no divisions to mark its passage, there is never a thunderstorm or blare of trumpets to announce the beginning of a new month or year. Even when a new century begins it is only we mortals who ring bells and fire off pistols.” A wisecracking graffiti author wrote (probably in a toilet environment): “Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn’t seem to be working”
Labor is heavily dependent on time. Many work on straight time, some on overtime, others against time, steal time, or are clock-watchers. Government and the community are calendar conscious, watching for red-letter days and fiestas (where one can still get a free lunch); school opening (tuition fee time) and Christmas time (when bonuses are timely); New Year’s Eve (time to blast fingers with firecrackers, more below); birthdates (so one can “blow out” the year’s savings); and the religious dates (Lent, Ramadan).
Customers buy on time but often do not pay on time; society respects time-honored traditions; Olympians try to break time records; elected politicians enjoy fixed time terms (and would welcome an extension); jetsetters cross time zones; banks thwart robbers with timelocked vaults, accept time deposits, and bury time capsules; even machines keep pace with timing belts.
New Year’s eve is celebrated as Pinoy retardates’ night. The timing of this event is typical Pinoy time – highly elastic – occurring plus or minus 30 minutes off local midnight, and rising to a deafening and bloody crescendo plus/minus at the presumed twelve midnight. The pyrotechnics revelry and mayhem is predictable: mangled fingers of several hundred dimwits, some residences incinerated, one or two deaths from stray bullets, and lung cancers initiated by the acrid fumes carrying 2.5 micron particulates. (Note – Not all retardates are idiots, some being morons or imbeciles). This class of retardates does not evoke the usual sympathy of society as they pose an antisocial act — they harm not just themselves but bystanders nearby.
The most striking feature of time is chronobiology, the bioclock. The Christmas season is heralded by the poinsettia plant whose leaves turn red at year-end. Young women have their periods or “monthlies”. Global travellers are beset by jet-lag syndrome that disrupt their circadian rhythm of sleep, excretion, and mealtime.
So, is it any wonder that Lacson or Erap’s timing is questioned? Filipino time, anyone?
Perl,
Meron pang isa…
http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl108902.htm
Estrada denied knowing the details of Operation Delta, and pointed to Lacson as the one who supposedly knew of the operation.
And as we all were told, Operation Delta is supposed to have been hatched to liquidate the publicist.
So why did Estrada do that? Why did he even imply that if there was anybody who could be responsible for the liquidation of Dacer, it would be Ping! If that is not ratting, I don’t know what is… Answer is Erap was being a brat (not only a rat) — he got peeved because Ping said he would endorse Noynoy.
Kaya nagalit tuloy si Ping… What did people expect him to do — accept Erap’s accusing finger?
So I will make kulit, este ulit pala…
http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=7214
TonGuE-tWisTeD – September 16, 2009 7:59 am
Open mind, at saka open eyes. Ito ang kailangan ngayon. Makasampung beses nang inulit na kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito.
Uulitin ko uli baka natakpan lang ng muta yung una. Kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito. Ayan, naka-bold pa.
Baka itatanong na naman kung bakit ngayon lang. Hindi naman si Ping ang mali ang timing, si Erap, hahaha. Uulitin ko pa uli!
Nice short lecture on timing, neonate.
Filipino time, nga naman, hehehe!
And on Neonate’s note (about timing), I bid you all folks goodnight! Sweet dreams… don’t let Erap or Ping bite you!
Cheers.
(Thanks Neonate for the reminder! Tee-hee!)
Kaya nagprivilege speech si Ping dahil inginuso siya ni Erap sa Dacer-Corbito.
———-xman———-
Yan ba talaga ang totoo, dahil ininguso sya ni Erap sa Dacer case at hindi dahil sa purely political reason or being an opportunist rat?
Ano ang sagot ni Lacson tungkol sa “why speak only now?”
Sinabi ba nya dahil sa ininguso o tinuro sya ni Erap?
Ito ang sagot ni Lacson ayon sa transcript ng speech nya:
“Why speak only now? To me, the more relevant and all-important question is, DID I SPEAK THE TRUTH?”
Hindi nya sinabing dahil ininguso sya o tinuro sya ni Erap. That’s clear as daytime.
“Why speak only now? To me, the more relevant and all-important question is, DID I SPEAK THE TRUTH?” —Lacson
Yeah, you told us the truth about the YUNCHENGCO TRANSACTION?
So, “WHY SPEAK ONLY NOW?”
Tedanz,
Yan nga din ang sinabi ko nuon pa. Nasa affidavit ni Mancao ang pagdawit sa pangalan ni Lacson at hindi nanggaling kay Erap. Ibinase lang naman ni Erap yun sinabi niya dun sa affidavit ni Mancao. Ewan ko nga ba kung bakit sinasabi nilang si Erap ang nag-nguso kay Lacson.
At duon sa tanong na kung bakit ngayon lang nagsasalita si Lacson? HIndi niya sinagot ang tanong. Ito ang sagot niya di ba?
“Why speak only now? To me, the more relevant and all-important question is, DID I SPEAK THE TRUTH?
To anyone who dares challenge the truthfulness of my assertion, let him speak up now.
There can be a thousand reasons for why, how and when truth will find a way to stand out but when it does, we must welcome it with open arms, instead of questioning its timing and motive.”
And dun sa tanong niya na “DID I SPEAK THE THRUTH”?… Ang sagot ko, I DOUBT!!!!!!
I DOUBT IT!!!!!!
Lacson’s rationale of “speaking only now” also proves the fact that he is not the traitor as every pro-Erap would like us to believe.
Why?
It did take 8+ years, in fact, for him to “hide” the Truth from the public just because he valued their friendship that much. And like he implied, had Erap not initiated the move to implicate him on the twin murders, he would have kept his silence.
So, who’s the real traitor, not only to Lacson, but to the Masang Pilipino who genuinely believe in him?
And who’s the real traitor even to his own father?
Like father like son, indeed.
Napanood nyo ba yung interview kay Almonte sa TV Patrol?
Nakakapagtaka na may ‘kopya’ ng mga sulat ni Dacer at pati na yung para kay ERAP. Halatang mga fabricated! At lumalakas ang sapantaha ko na may kinalaman sina Almonte at Ramos sa istoryang Dacer-Corbito! At sa halalan sa 2010, di pwedeng di sila (Ramos & Co.) papapel ng palihim. Mag-ingat sa mga ‘mole’ meaning ‘espiya’ tulad ni Lacson!
“And who’s the real traitor even to his own father?”
Sumpit,
Sinagot na yan ni Jinggoy. Ipagtatanggol pa ba ni Jinggoy yung tatay niya kung ipinagkanulo niya ito. Unbelievable di ba?
At tsaka nanlamig lang naman ang pakikitungo ng kampo ni Erap kay Lacson after ng 2004 election ng tumakbo si Lacson at hatiin ang boto ng oposisyon. Dun na nila nalaman na ‘mole’ pala siya. Kaya hanggang sa huling sandali ni Erap sa Malakanyang ay hindi siya umalis sa tabi, dahil…nag-e-espiya pa.
Their demeanor when interviewed can’t hide the fact that they must be guilty of something, that even their closest friends couldn’t stomach, no more.
Traydor din ba si “prominent member of the bar”?
Mole din ba si “prominent member of the bar”?
Erap versus Ping na naman.
Bungisngis na naman ang tunay na salarin.
Hindi kaya si Erap ang nagtraydor din sa kaibigan niyang si FPJ, na inginuso niya upang siya ay masalba sa kulungan?
At nang di makapuwesto si FPJ ay napilitang makipag-compromise kay Glueria sa pamamagitan ng pag-offer ng ulo ni Ping?
hmmm…from what I gather from all these—conspiracy itong nangyari kay dacer (nasabit na lang si corbito). now, who is dacer to be given the “honor” of being assassinated?
Check out this post regarding the Aragoncillo, Michael Ray Aquino spying case.
http://www.uniffors.com/?p=166
Here is a choice quote.
So it is possible that whoever was running Operation Delta was making it appear that it was coming from Malacanang. It would also appear to be run by Ping, because the men were his.
Sino ba ang ganito ka-sneaky?
If a lawyer is acting improperly and against the law then his actions should be brought to the authorities, the IBP.
Why speak only now? To me, the more relevant and all-important question is, DID I SPEAK THE TRUTH?
If you speak the truth bakit nga kasi ngayon lang? E matagal mo na pa lang alam iyan. Wala ka ng delicadeza wala ka pang prinsipyo. Hinayaan mo lang mangyari yung alam mong mali? Kung hindi mo hinayaan, yun ang pinakamagandang pagkakataon para gumawa ng rebelyon E tarantado pala yung Presidente mo e. Hinayaan mo lang.
Justice for them will be justice for all Filipinos.
Ano ba ang kinalaman sa buhay ng mahigit 70 milyong Pilipino kina Dacer at Corbito. At sino nga ba si Dacer at Corbito sa buhay ng napakaraming Pilipino?
At paano naman yung biktima sa rub-out nung Kuratong kuno?
Dapat may hustisya din para sa pamilya nila lalo na dun sa 2 binatilyo na may ihahatid lang sana sa isang kamag-anak nila.
Lacson and his fans are now diverting the issue by insisting that Erap accused him in the Dacer-Corbito case. But the fact remains that it was Mancao’s affidavit that points to Lacson as the man behind the twin murder and all Erap did was mentioned it. What’s wrong with that? Also mentioned somewhere was the planned assassination of Berroya who was the man who took and recommended Lacson to Erap and instrumental in his appointment as PNP director general. How can one make out of this man who after getting what he wants, even planned to eliminate his benefactor boggles the mind. It’s shockingly unbelievable. He is truly a scheming opportunistic and a hybrid rat in human form.
Can’t blame Lacson he maybe in a desperate and panic mode. He is now clutching straws and to anything he can hold onto. The other day he aimed his guns at Villar, accusing the later has something to do with the Dacer-Corbito case. It’s not a good sign for him.
Lacson should paraphrase his slogan “Save the country from Erap” to “Save the country from the Arroyos” na mas malalaking magnanakaw. But just like Noynoy his new poster boy, he will not do that. He is an ally of the Arroyos and she is not a candidate. He was the deep penetration agent of Arroyo during the 2004 election. He made it easier for the Arroyo cheating machine to do their dirty work. He is not a very rich man as he claims but spending almost a billion pesos in a campaign for a lost cause is a no brainer, not even Warren Buffet or Billy Gates will do it unless somebody with a pile after pile after pile of money financed it or reimbursed it.
Lacson should calm and gather himself before the hurricane Dacer-Corbito case comes in.
Lacson should now realize that the main beneficiary of his tirades against Erap is Gloria, and the other presidentiables.
He shouldn’t have turned his back against his former boss, Filipinos do not like traitors or ingrates.
Eto naman si Jinggoy sobra ang yabang, malamang siya ang pinagmulan ng away ni Ping at ng tatay niya. Akala niya kasi number one siya kaya sumobra ang hangin.
Lacson and his fans are now diverting the issue by insisting that Erap accused him in the Dacer-Corbito case. — florry
florry, they are now saying that it was an IMPLIED pointing of Erap in the direction of Lacson, an IMPLIED killer of Dacer-Corbito. It is laughable, indeed.
Lacson waited for 8+ years to divulge his TRUTH because of pakikisama at utang na loob, what is friend(kuno) for? What a cheap opportunistic stunt of a TRAITOR!
Thanks for #73 post, atty sax.
Ewan ko nga ba kung bakit sinasakyan ni Erap at Ping ang inihandang patibong sa kanila ng sneaker at beneficiary ng planadong twin murder.
Nagtuturuan kung sinong nagsimula ng bintang samantalang nakangisi na naka-cuban cigar pa yung dapat nilang pagtuunan ng pansin.
Hanggang turuan, sisihan, atakehan personal ang nangyayari. Samakatuwid e talagang wala silang alam sa murder na yan.
Para sa akin ay naiwan sila kapwa sa pansitan na nakanganga at mumo na lang ang kanilang pinag-aawayan.
No wonder, during Lacson’s 2004 campaign sorties, he was not attacking pandak, never during the sorties.
He was third in all the surveys that were made. The surveys were saying that he will only get around 3 million votes. They were damn right.
Bakit hindi pa pumanig si Lacson kay FPJ gayong mga three million votes lang ang makukuha nya? At kung pumanig pa si Lacson kay FPJ ay makukuha nila ang command vote ng INC. Mas mahihirapan na dayain si FPJ parang si Erap noong landslide victory nya, hindi nila kayang dayain. Pero ngayon dahil automated election na e automated fraud na ang labas, napakadaling dayain kesa manual.
Palagay ko ang nangyari noon kina FPJ at Lacson, ay si Lacson talaga ang nakalaan na standard bearer parang si Roxas. Pero sumingit si FPJ, katulad ni Noynoy nakisingit din. Sa galit siguro ni Lacson dahil nasingitan sya kaya kumampi na lang kay gloria—syempre under the table ang suportang pera ni gloria galing sa kaban, kunyari lang na billion pesos ang suporta sa kanya ng mga tsekwa.
Let’s face it. These two guys, Ping and Erap, know more about the Dacer-Corbito case than what they’re telling us. Somebody ratted first. The other ratted in response. So now both are ratting on each other. So there.
saxnviolins link on comment #73.
http://www.uniffors.com/?p=166
Operation Delta is pointing squarely at either Lacson or GMA or both.
THE STORY OF 2 JUDASES:
Jesus: Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone.
Lacson: (nagisip kung mauna siyang ngunguso, di makapalag)
Erap: Ano daw? Ang lalim ng ingles ah (sabay nguso kay Lacson). Wala akong kinalaman sa kaso, si Ping ang may alam diyan.
Lacson made the privilege speech after several weeks of pondering and trying to make a “perfect” script.
Sa palagay ko si FVR may kagagawan ng pagkamatay ni Dacer, upang ituro kay Erap noong panahon ng impeachment.
Magka meeting sila ni Dacer, at ng hindi sumipot si Dacer, nasa TV agad si Tabako at sinabing dinukot si Dacer. Bakit alam niya agad? Si Almonte naman hawak pa mga props na sulat daw ni Dacer upang palabasin na may threat sa buhay nito.
Sana magising mga tao dito tulad ni Phil Cruz at imulat ang mga mata at wag mabulag. Ang masaya lamang sa nangyayaring bangayan ay si GMA at Tabako.
Sana sagutin ni Jinggoy iyong 10 million daw na natalo. Saan kaya, anong sugal yon at milyon milyon kung magpatalo? Where the hell is he getting that kind of money?
Dapat hindi na pinapatulan ang privilege speech ni Lacson na ginagawa niyang nobela. Wala naman siyang ebidensya eh, puro chismis ang basis.
Bakit kaya hindi magpresent ng konkretong ebidensya si Lacson? Puro paninirang puri lang naman gusto niyang gawin kay Erap. At siya na mismo nagsabi, ang motibo lang naman niya ay para malaman ng mga Pilipino kung ano ba si Erap bilang presidente.
Sa pagsasabing naunang ilaglag si Sen. Lacson…hmmmnn, sa mga nakikita ko sa balita hindi naman sya itinuro ni Former Pres. Erap eh, ang sabi lang, wala daw syang alam dun kasi mga tauhan ni Sen. Lacson yung mga yun at hindi nya kilala…Siguro nagkagulu-gulo lang at nagkasulsulan..Kasi kung susuriin nga natin, maaaring tingnan as implying Sen. Lacson’s connection pero totoo namang kung sinong may direct connetion sa mga taong nagsasalita about sa crime, eh di dapat sya ang tatanungin.
If Sen. Lacson has a say on that, it’s a different story. As I can remember, sabi ni Former Pres. Estrada, it is Sen. Lacson’s call to say his side and clear his name about the allegations.
Parang ang nangyari pa tuloy, turu-turuan, para silang mga bata na nag-aaway dahil sa kagagawan ng ibang tao. Maaari din wala talaga silang kaalam-alam at may ibang tao sa likod ng mga pangyayaring ito…may isa pa nga akong kinatatakutan, pero sana naman ‘wag mangyayari.
Maganda sana kung hindi si Jinggoy ang bumabanat kay Ping. Kasi wala din akong tiwala sa pagmumukha niya. Totoo ata na sugarol si Jinggoy.
Sa bangayan nila ni Ping, tuwang-tuwa si Gloria sigurado!
“Tahimik pa sana ang aking buhay. But that would be betraying my oath to the Filipino people as an elected Senator of the Republic.”
Noon pa niya dapat ibinulgar ang mga ito kung tapat siya sa kanyang sinumpaan ngayon last term na niya ito …. bakit ngayon lang???????
Yan lang mga Igan …. dapat lang tapusin na natin itong kagaguhan ng bugok na ito.
Ellen,
To anyone who dares challenge the truthfulness of my assertion, let him speak up now. — Ping Lacson in privilege speech
Did Jinggoy rise to the challenge?
Mike – September 23, 2009 12:19 pm
THE STORY OF 2 JUDASES:
Natawa ako sa storya mo, Mike!
(72) Sino ba ang ganito ka-sneaky? — SaxnV
Timeline points to Victor Corpuz?
Ellen says that Victor Corpuz is in America in charge of Veterans Affairs?
Will be surprised if that’s all he does — attend to Veterans’ affairs? He is spying for Gloria.
The man is a snitch, a double dealing sonovabitch used by FVR and Gloria. The man is not interested in the truth but only in putting down the enemies of Gloria.
When asked if he wishes to interpelate Lacson, Jinggoy refused, saying that he did not want to dignify Lacson’s accusations. Isn’t he dignifying these accusations even more by delivering his own privilege speech in response to Lacson’s?
He is daring Lacson to bring the case to court, and refrain from hiding under ‘the cloak of parliamentary immunity’. Being ‘aggrieved’ by Lacson’s speech, would it not be the most logical course for him to hail Lacson to court, instead?
Being ‘aggrieved’ by Lacson’s speech, would it not be the most logical course for him to hail Lacson to court, instead? — Ka Enchong
Oo nga…
Ang bait naman niya… 🙂
Bakit naman ang mga Estrada ang magpa-file ng demanda … wala naman silang problema? Ang may problema ay si Mr. Lacson siya dapat ….. siya yong nagrereklamo at siya itong nagdadakdak.
wala naman silang [Estrada] problema?
Ah, talaga? Wala silang problema?
Talagang wala at kung meron man kayong problema sa mga Estrada i-demanda niyo …. handa naman nilang sagutin lahat. Yon ang sabi nila. lol
So, wala palang problema sila Estrada, so tama lang pala na hindi ipagtanggol ni Jinggoy ang accusations sa tatay niya. OK lang palang tumahimik siya at mag smirk na lang.
Hmmm… OK, I get the logic…
Hindi lang marunong mag-interpellate. The best among them? Manong Johnny bar none. Kahit the late Neptali Gonzales nahirapan. And Hehe, bugbog sarado.
Reminds me of anecdotes about PM Margaret Thatcher. She mowed down the opposition at the question hour, because she had facts at her fingertips. The Chemist made mincemeat of lawyers.
Sax,
Hindi lang marunong mag-interpellate.
How many years na yang senador? Hindi pa rin marunong?
Granted, he is not completely marunong (baka naman bobo?), he could have squared it out with the accuser, even with a few words here and there or a couple of questions.
He didn’t need to be a formalist.
My maid would interpellate me when she believes I’m in the wrong… hindi senador yan ha…
Bakit naman ang mga Estrada ang magpa-file ng demanda … wala naman silang problema? Ang may problema ay si Mr. Lacson siya dapat ….. siya yong nagrereklamo at siya itong nagdadakdak.
Ipagpalagay na nating tsismoso lang talaga itong si Lacson. Sino dapat ang nagdedemanda sa mga tsismoso? Hindi ba yung mga itsinitsismis nila? Eh kung hindi tsismis yung sinasabi ni Lacson, ano yun? Totoo?
Eh kung hindi tsismis yung sinasabi ni Lacson, ano yun? Totoo?
heehehehe!
All these Erap apologists have selective amnesia. Estrada is a convicted plunderer, period. The fact that he accepted pardon means he admits to his crime – how can you ask for pardon without doing so?
Between Lacson and Erap, who is more credible considering the other is an ex convict, with criminal record to boot (fingerprinted with mugshots, etc).
…I doubt if these people will give other exconvicts the benefit of the doubt, double standard again…Erap is not a saint, ask him what happened to Bentain. Just because he took very good care of “his” people doesn’t cut it. If thats the case, its okay for Gloria to do the same, anyway, her folowers have “utang na loob” to her? Natulungan, nabigyan ng pera, nabigyan ng pera, nabigyan ng pera…mukhang pera ba talaga ang mga pinoy?
Man, the privilege speeches of these two (Ping & Jinggoy) nitwits is turning out to be a bore. Magsuntukan nalang sila sa kalye o kaya sa ring. Siguradong patok yan sa takilya at marami siguradong makikipag-pustahan.
siguradong makikipag-pustahan.
hehe! Sige pustahan… I will wage 10 pesos kay Lacson panalo 1st round.
Mike, matagal ko ng suggestion yan. Walang kinapupuntahan ang dakdakan e. If one of them had evidence pointing to the other, this is the time to release it. Otherwise, damaged goods na lang sila pareho.
Bakit hindi na lang kaya si Erap ang maging state witness against lacson sa dacer-corbito case? tutal sabi nman nya sa GMA news interview, meron sulat sa kanya si dacer about sa away ni dacer at Lacson. Ilabas nya ung love notes ni dacer!
Bakit hindi na lang kaya si Erap ang maging state witness against lacson sa dacer-corbito case?
OK, yan ah! Sige, second the motion ako!
Matutuwa naman siguro na ang mga Erap die-hards.
Mukhang nanganganak ang mga allegations sa bawa’t panig. Dito mainam gunitain ang sinabi ng District Judge sa kaso ni Strunk (asawa ni Nida Blanca) sa extradition case ni Strunk.
Paikot-ikot ang allegations, nasaan ang pruweba ng pagkamatay? Una dapat yan, dahil yung lugar ng pagkamatay ay siyang magtuturo sa probable suspects. Kung sa Tanza nga, then it is the PAOCTF. Kung sa ibang lugar, then it could be somebody else.
Ang intindi ko kung bakit ayaw mag-interpellate ni Jinggoy ay dahil hiram lang nila ang kanilang oras para mag-privelege speech. At kung magsasagutan sila Lacson at Jinggoy ay baka lalong hindi matapos. Di ba nga at kailangan pa nilang magpaalam sa mga dapat na mag-speech at sa Senate President? Bagrereklamo na nga si Brendamage dahil lagi siyang napo-postpone. Ang kay Jinggoy ay sinasagot nya lang ang mga akusasyon. Kaya kung may matibay daw na ebidensiya si lacson ay i-korte na lamang at huwag gamitin ang immunity sa pagkalat ng ‘chismis’.
Btw,Puno said, <Erap can still run in 2010 presidential elections
MANILA, Philippines – Former President Joseph Estrada can still run for president in the May 2010 polls and his grant of pardon will not be an impediment to his political plans, according to Interior and Local Government Secretary Ronaldo Puno.
“The question really is whether people will believe that he is still the correct man to run the government, he will have to prove that again,” added Puno.
The purpose of allowing Estrada to run is to divide the opposition in 1,000 and 1 fragments — and so Gibo wins.
As we know, one need not have a solid majority of votes to be able to win the presidency in the Philippines. If his manok wins by a slimmest of margins, say 1,000 votes or a few thousands, eg., 10.01% of the total votes from say, among ten candidates, then Gibo becomes president.
(A presidential mandate with no clear majority is the most idiotic way of electing a president!)
And that + decimal point is very easy to obtain — Puno will make sure it happens.
Puno is the personification of a election disaster waiting to happen again in Pinas.
kitamokitako : “Sana sagutin ni Jinggoy iyong 10 million daw na natalo. Saan kaya, anong sugal yon at milyon milyon kung magpatalo? Where the hell is he getting that kind of money?”
Hindi nga daw alam ni Jinggoy kung saan siya natalo ng 10 milyon eh. Si Lacson dapat ang magsabi kung saan. Baka naman sa ‘Jack & Poy’! HEhehehe!
@AdeBrux : “… I will wage 10 pesos kay Lacson panalo 1st round.”
I want a grueling bout and I prefer to see them both knocked out on the 12th round. Hehehe 🙂
Mike,
I don’t think aabot sa 12th round, eh.
Suntukan sila — talo si Jinggoy. Physically fit si Lacson tapos marunong pang manuntok.
Si Jinggoy tabatsoy, slow to move, drinker pa… his reach is short also dahil pandak.
But you never know, baka umabot ng 1 round and a half!
Anna,
You think so? Hahaha 😀
What is the real motive of dacer-corbito case?
1. To prevent lacson for running on presidential election?
2. To prevent lacson to deliver his expose against gloria during election campaign?
3. To prevent Erap for running on presidential election?
Who will benefit the 1st?
Who will benefit the 2nd?
and who will benefit the 3rd?
Mike,
You think so?
wink, wink
wink
Tribune:
“The gods appear to have made Lacson mad enough to destroy himself. He has destroyed himself with the lies he spews, in a bid to save himself. God save the nation from monster fabricators like Ping Lacson.”
Eto pa ..
Tribune:
“The truth is, Lacson not only destroyed himself. He cause too much destruction to the institution to which he belongs: The Senate. He is an embarrassment to the Senate and his colleagues.”
I’m sorry Tedanz but the truth is The Tribune today makes me yawwwwn….
Hindi kita masisisi AdeBrux. Ganyan talaga ang buhay.
Eto pa:
“Another fictional part of Lacson Part 2 is his charge that Sen. Jinggoy Estrada talked to Atong Ang while he was in Las Vegas and asked him not to testify against him and his mother, Sen. Loi Estrada, and just talk against his father, President Erap.”
Bakit binanggit niya ang pangalan ni Loi Estrada wala naman ang pangalan niya sa demanda. Gusto pa yatang pag-awayin ang mag-ama. Anong klase talagang tao ito? Desperado na talaga.
Tedanz,
Eto rin:
“The following are excerpts from a telephone conversation that transpired between two male persons, both in the United States at that time, one in Los Angeles, California, the other, in Las Vegas, Nevada.”
Nagwa-wiretap din ba si Lacson sa Tate? Paano niya kaya nalaman ang pag-uusap ng dalawang nasa Amerika?
Tedanz,
pano mo naman nalaman na fictional? e pano kung totoo?
lvm,
Alam niya lahat ang nangyayari sa buhay ng mga Estrada. Magaling, magaling … palakpakan. Diyan pa lang alam mo ng sadyang naninira na lang siya. Siguro nga hindi siya pinagbigyan ni Erap sa hiling niya ….. siyempre guwapo si Erap … heheheheheeheheh … ooops sori po!!!!!
Nagwa-wiretap din ba si Lacson sa Tate? Paano niya kaya nalaman ang pag-uusap ng dalawang nasa Amerika?
Tedanz,paki basa na din to:
“The man in Las Vegas could not believe what the man in Los Angeles told him. But the fact that the source of this phone conversation is not only reliable but unimpeachable”
Tandaan lang po na ang problema ngayon ay itong pekeng namamahala ngayon sa ating Gobyerno. Baka lang po nakakaligtaan na natin. Hindi po si Erap.
Pakatandaan din po na kung hindi dahil kay plunderer Erap ay walang edsa-dos at walang nakaupong pekeng presidente.
perl “Tedanz; pano mo naman nalaman na fictional? e pano kung totoo?”
Sige fairy tale na lang … heheheheheeh … tanong mo kay Maceda
Kaya nga dehins puwede Igang perl dahil si Loi ay hindi naman kasama sa kaso. Bakit isinama niya doon sa sermon niya. Yan ang intindi ko kung bakit naging fairy tale.
Di wala din sanang Glorya na ngayon ay naghahasik ng lagim. Yan talaga ang problema.
Igang perl hindi si Erap ang dahilan kung bakit may Glorya … Bakit sinabi ba niyang i-coup niyo ako? Mahabang salaysayin pa kung anong nangyari basta’t sinipa nila yong tao at inilagay nila si Glorya. Bakit natin isinisisi dito kay Erap kung bakit may Glorya?
ahh.. kay maceda pala galing yang “fictional” statement mo… kaya pala. e kung yun ang pagkakasabi sa kanya ng reliable source nya eh… pwde naman banggitin si loi kahit hindi kasama sa kaso…
Perl,
Ikaw ba ay nahihibang? Kung hindi pinatalsik si Erap ng mga elitista at mayayabang na tulad mo sana walang Edsa Dos at walang Gloria ngayon. Kung pinatapos ninyo si Erap ay malamang hindi kinarma ang bayan natin.
Si Gloria ay karma sa bayan dahilan sa pambabastos ninyo sa karapatan ng masang Pilipino!
Kung si Cory nga umamin at humingi ng tawad kay Erap dahil sa pagkakamali sa Edsa Dos, bakit ikaw, tulad din ng ibang mayabang na elitista ay hindi ninyo kayang umamin sa pagkakamali?
Puwede ba .. o sige .. kaya nga fairy tale na lang hindi na fiction.
igang Tedanz, mahabang salaysayin nga kaya hindi ko na dinetalye.. akala ko nman eh,ma-gets mo agad…
inshort, kung naging mabuting presidente lang si plunderer erap, walang edsa-dos! at walang ganid na gloria ngayon na nakaupo sa Malacanan…
andres, abat ako naman sinisi mo ngayon kung bakit napatalsik ky plunderer Erap. Ako ba nagbibigay kay erap ng jueteng payola?
Ang hihina din bumasa ng mga civil society bloggers! Di niyo ba naisip na ang paglabas ni Almonte with his supposed evidences ay ibig sabihin may kinalaman sila ni Tabako sa pagkamatay ni Dacer?
Noong impeachment ni Erap, palalabasin nilang pinatay si Dacer ni Lacson sa utos ni Erap. Si FVR, na dapat kausap ni Dacer, wala pang isang oras ay nasa TV na at nagsisigaw na dinukot si Dacer! Bakit niya alam agad? Malamang kasama siya sa plano.
Kaya sayang lang dahil sa bangayan ni Ping at Erap, natakpan ang tunay na mga salarin.
Pasensiya ka na Igang perl hindi ko magetz ang ibig mong ipahiwatig. Pero puwede ba intindihin mo na lang yong sinabi ni Ka andres … simple lang yong sinabi niya … basahin mo lang dahan dahan para ma-getz mo. Walang nagsasabi na ikaw ang nagbibigay ng payola kay Erap. Easy ….
Hahaha, kailangan pa bang imemorize yan.
Andres, tama ka.. may mahinang bloggers dito. Yang anggulong Almonte/FVR, pinaguusapan na yan sa kabilang thread. At yang paglutang ngayon ni Almonte na may love notes din pala si dacer! Hay dacer, mahirap kasi talga mamangka sa dalawang itlog, este ilog!
Everybody still enjoying the ferris wheel ride? Paikot-ikot na lang, nakakhilo at nakakasawa na.
All of us here are just speculators. We don’t have any firsthand knowledge of the events that lead to what they are fighting about. What we know is from what we learned from the media and that’s about it.
Erap’s life is an open book. His resume is now a mile long courtesy of Lacson. The best thing to settle this once and for all is for the SC to allow him to run and let the people be the judge. That will settle the score.
Ping if he has the goods on the Estrada’s should go to court and prove their guilt. He cannot just keep on yakking and yakking behind his parliamentary immunity. If you talk and accuse let it be substantiated with proofs. Go to court and the court will settle the score.
Of course they are enjoying the limelight, but what they are doing is just wasting the time of the senate, it’s not even an aid of legislation, and that instead of crafting a bill to designate who will take charge of the government in case there is a failure of election, they are engaged in a contest of who is the better brawler and demolition man.
One day Filipinos might just wake up helplessly that Gloria is still the reigning queen of the Philippines.
Palagay ko may niluluto na ang kampo nila FVR/Arroyo kaya may pinababayaan na namang mag-ingay! Syempre naka-focus ang lahat lalo na ang media sa mga ‘pasabog’ na naman ni Lacson. Tandaan nyo, pag tumahimik na si Lacson eh…nakabuo na ang plano at ine-execute na ang Phase 1! Magbantay kayo!
Off-topic. Talk about smokescreens.
Tahimik na tahimik yung plunder-in-the-making case ni Jovy Salonga, with regard to the conversion of San MIguel shares of the government from common to preferred.
Sa mga businessmen diyan, mas mabuti ba ang preferred shares kaysa common, tulad ng sabi ni Devanadera?
Mancao lawyer admits meeting with Estrada
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/172933/mancao-lawyer-admits-meeting-with-estrada
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Ano naman ang gagawin ng matinong abogado sa bahay ng inaakusahan ng kanyang kliyente? Isang malinaw na may sabwatang Erap at Topacio dito! Tsk, tsk!
From Ninez Caho-Olivares column in the Daily Tribune(09/24/2009):
“But this was where Lacson made a fatal mistake. In his speech, Lacson claimed that Bentain was abducted somewhere on Roxas Boulevard and killed somewhere in Laguna,
The problem with that claim is that while Bentain was declared missing, no one really said that he was murdered — except for Lacson. This led to questions: How did Lacson know that Bentain was murdered and in Laguna, when nobody else knew of this?”
O anong say ng mga abugado dyan sa statement ni Lacson? Incriminating?
Parang istorya dun sa dating TV series ni Angela Lansbury na ‘Murder She Wrote’: In case of Lacson naman, ‘Murder HE Wrote’!
Prosecution or Persecution?
Wala sa tamang hulog itong si Lacson! Nalilito na rin yata! Pag hinimay mo yung mga sinasabi niya sa (un)privilege speech niya eh mas lumalabas na siya ang talagang may kinalaman sa mga pagpatay(?) o pagkawala nila Dacer-Corbito at Bentain. Pero pwede ko rin paniwalaan na may nag-utos pa kay Lacson, pero hindi si Erap, kundi yung talagang ‘Amo’ niya na si…Tabako!!!
http://www.tribune.net.ph/commentary/20090924com2.html
Tribune na nman? wala na bang ibang source?
alin ang wala sa hulog? we all know that Bentain is missing… and so we, the ordinary people concluded that he was murdered… same logic applies, we can say why lacson said that bentain was murdered…
Lacson, was a policeman, chief-pnp… he is capable to have his own investigation about this case…
you may have forgotten also in his privilege speech, he mentioned that he was present on Erap residence when one police officer reported to Erap and said “mission accomplished” on bentain… ayaw na lang siguro idamay ni Lacson ung police officer kaya hindi binanggit… and this bentain case is also a warning signal to erap, pag hindi tumigil si erap sa kadidiin sa kanya sa dacer-corbito case…
alam nyo… mas mga pangyayaring ito… mas pinaniniwalaan kong si Erap ang mastermind sa dacer, hindi si tabako…
the gloria administration used all the resources to open this dacer-corbito case… kung si tabako ang talagang mastermind… hindi nila gagawin to… bakit? dahil kahit na sa maliit na posibilidad… lalabas at lalabas ang katotohanan…
perl,
Sa Tribune magaganda ang analysis nila, may katalinuhan baga! Di tulad ng ibang dyaryo na mina-magnify lang yung gusto nilang palabasin tulad ng Inquirer!
At namangha naman ako sa analysis mo! Huli na nga sa bibig si Lacson eh! And all along, sa haba ng panahon, eh alam pala niya kung saan na-abduct at na-murder, eh ngayon lang nalaman ng taong bayan! Napapa-iling naman naman ako. Tsk, tsk, tsk! Aabangan kung sino yung gaganap na pulis na nag-report! Kung meron man!
Perl,
Sina-substitute nga nila yung mastermind eh. Kaya nga pinalalabas nila at dinadawit si Erap. Nagkataon na role-player si Lacson sa mga pangyayari. Sa kampo naman ni Gloria at Tabako, parang hitting two birds with one stone! Basta sila lusot!
“mission accomplished” on bentain”
Baka naman kay Lacson nag-report itong pulis na ito. O kaya kay Tabako. Nag-substitute na naman si Lacson.
Isa si Jinggoy na bomoto ng pabor sa creation of another district in CamSur, di naman pabor sina Lacson at Ninoy. Sino makikinabang dito, hindi ba si Dato, na anak ng Pidal? Ngayon sino ang nakamaskara na supporter ng mga Pidals? Mga anak ng jueteng at mga anak ng pidal, tama na, pare pareho lang kayo.
Follow the “jueteng” money trail! Its easy to see the truth here…Whats the common denominator between the Estradas and Arroyos?
It would be a monumental act of stupidity, a catastrophe of national proportion if the Filipinos still vote for Erap. Enough of this “poor against rich” crap, “pang masa kasi” or “at least may pakinabang sa mga mahihirap kasi nagbigay ng pera, pagkain, etc.” These people are laughing behind our backs as their “weather-weather lang” masks the “pera-pera lang yan.” the guy was given a chance and he blew it big time, and the people booted him out of office. If we want to know why the same hasn’t happened to Gloria because inspite of all the evil we see in her, I have to grudgingly admit, she still has some redeeming qualities.
Our president should personify the best of us, the best the Philippines can offer, not the “pwede na yan.” We wallow in mediocrity because we do not have the drive, the ambition, to better ourselves…instead we worship “movie” icons and gobble up the character/story/emotional appeal/tagapagtanggol ng naaapi storylines as biblical truth that we blindly follow such fake icons…and then wallow more in self pity, inaapi na naman.
Erap apologists should open their eyes, the guy is warped, there is nothing wrong with jueteng (because tumutulong sa mahihirap), theres nothing wrong with having many concubines (as long as you’re open about it, hindi plastic), and theres nothing wrong with a sitting president frequenting casinos…I don’t know about you guys but i definitely see something wrong there…the more Erap insists on coming back, the more Gloria will be able to strengthen her position, she becomes the necessary evil as opposed to total chaos and loss of credibility in the world politics. He is doing more damage than good with what he’s doing, better if he stays quiet or support a worthy opposition contender…his time has passed, give it a rest already…
This is the problem when people only read ONE newspaper. The opinion of the writer becomes gospel truth. . . Try to balance your views by reading newspaper/oonline posts and watching tv to have a clear grasp of the situation. . .Don’t be swayed by what you read without comparing with what others say about the subject matter. . .take a case in point at comment nr 147 in this thread. . .here’s what Lacson has to say about that when interviewed by ANC right after the 2nd privilege speech of Jinggoy. . .http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/23/09/lacson-expos%C3%A9s-over-now. . .This would explain why he mentioned Roxas blvd and Laguna in the Bentain case. . . Ninez, everybody knows na si Erap ang financier ng dyaryo mo. . . sorry, marami pala dito ang di nakakaalam. . .
Sax:
Sax, if you have 100% trust and confidence on who is running the management of the company, or if he is your stooge/puppet, I will go for preferred, I get priority over dividend payments than all the other investors. That is good if a company is raking in money consistently. SMC is consistently getting good profits in their core food and beverage biz BUT is now diversifying into power, telecoms, water, and oil, of which both Danding and Ang are both neophytes.
On the other hand, common shares gives the holder the right to vote in the board proportionately to the amount of shares owned. This gives gov’t the right to say no to any risky undertaking SMC may be planning to do. This gives the owners control.
Why did gov’t surrender its control? Why did it appoint misfits into the SMC board like Lani Mercado? Is it because Danding is actually “controlled” by Gloria now? Is it because Danding is really only following the playbook of Gloria as she controls the power, water, telecoms, and oil industry through her regulators? Is Danding merely laundering the Pidal loot even if it is unlikely that an old-time successful food and beverage company is now diversifying to unfamiliar grounds?
I’m sorry if I replied with more questions than answers because unless these questions are answered, I don’t see wisdom in surrendering control over the right to first dividends. As a businessman, I will have to first make sure there will be dividends in the first place. I do that by using my vote in the board. But will a Lani Mercado be the right choice?
perl,
I am sorry, pero talagang ang iyong pag-iisip ay sarado. Very typical of an evil society member na lahat ng pagkakataon, si Erap ang may kasalanan.
Si Bishop Bacani na mismo ang nagsabi na wala sa character ni Erap ang magpapatay ng tao. Kung ayaw niyo kay Enrile, ito Obispo na ang nagsalita.
Si FVR at Almonte parehong walang mga puso para pumatay. Bakit ba ayaw mo buksan ang isipan at tignan ang katotohanan. Masyado kasi kayong ma-pride at ayaw aminin ang pagkakamali. Ang inyong icon nga na si Cory ay umamin ng pagkakamali pero kayo hindi pa rin.
Kumpletuhin ninyo yung scenario bago magbuo ng sariling conclusion.
-Walang bumanggit dito na si Dacer ay sisipain na sa Manila Hotel dahil hindi siya nakakabayad ng ilang buwang upa (7 months na ba yun?) matapos putulin ni Ramos yung sustento niya.
-Kapit patalim si Dacer, binalikan niya si Erap para masalba yung opisina niya habang kalat na kalat na sa mga journalist na may hinuhukay si Dacer na pasabog tungkol sa BW resources. Alam din ng media na doble-kara si Dacer. Sumipsip siya kay Erap gamit ang nalalaman niyang hidwaan nila ni Lacson na nung panahong yon ay di na pinapansin ni Erap dahil nga sa jueteng. Yan ang laman ng mga sulat. Habang nagtatrabaho siya ng husto para sa tunay niyang amo na si FVR.
-Kaya may pasulat-sulat pa siya, na siya namang pinapakita niya kay Ramos, para siguro makakolekta pa ng pang-upa. Kaya may kopya si Almonte. Pero kulang para kay Ramos dahil umuusad na ang impeachment wala pa siyang output kailangang putulin ang sustento para magmadali.
-Sinabi ni Dumlao na ang order ay dukutin ang mga dokumentong nasa kamay ni Dacer, pero kung mahirap gawin, sunugin na lang ang opisina sa Manila Hotel.
-Ang purpose ng PAOCTF ay ang dokumento, hindi si Dacer. Mamatay man si Dacer, meron pa ring dokumento.
-Sabi ni Sabina, anak ni Dacer, laging may dalang maleta ang ama pag lumalakad. Nandito yung mga papeles niya. Nandito rin siguro yung mga papel sa BW.
-Dalawang scenario: 1. Pinatay si Dacer nila Almonte matapos makuha ang mga papel na nasa “maleta” ni Dacer kaya merong mga hawak na papel ngayon si Almonte. Kaya rin nagtago si Dante Ang sa Canada dahil may ebidensiyang nakapuslit. 2. Nakuha nila Dumlao ang papel at pinatay ng grupo si Dacer dahil nakilala sila. Hindi na sana umalis si Dante Ang kung alam niyang nasa kamay na nina ERAP/Ping yung mga papeles na magsasasbit sa kanya.
Ang nahihirapan akong arukin ay yung pagdukot kay Dacer sa liwanag, na ang mga dumukot ay naka-uniporme, nakamobile na markado. Panabit talaga ang operasyon, bakit ginawa ng PAOCTF kung sila man yun?
Matagal ko nang sinabi dito na ang suspect ko ay sina Ramos/Almonte ang tunay na masterminds dahil nga sa mga rason na iyan sa itaas.
Nung una ay tama ang ginagawa nila Erap/Ping na ideny na lang ang akusasyuon, tutal wala namang ebidensiya maliban sa perjured testimony ni Mancao na madaling gibain kung isasabay yung mga naunang affidavit at yung revelation na inipit lang siya ni Prestoza. Lalo pa na ang nakuhang bangkay ay maaring buto/DNA lang ng baka, ayon sa mga imbestigador.
Nagkamali si Erap nung nag-iba siya ng ihip at inginuso si Ping. Diyan sila nagkahiwalay.
Isa pa nga pala, yung pagkakilanlan kay Dacer ay base lang sa pustiso at sapatos.
Yung pustiso, naaalis naman yun at pwedeng magpagawa uli.
Yung sapatos naman, kataka-takang nakita lang sa area at ang nakakita pa ay si Sabina Dacer, apat na araw matapos matagpuan yung mga “bangkay”. Duda ako diyan.
Ang tanong ko, gaya nga ni sax, patay na nga ba si Dacer?
Isa pa nga pala, yung pagkakilanlan kay Dacer ay base lang sa pustiso at sapatos.
Yung pustiso, naaalis naman yun at pwedeng magpagawa uli.
Yung sapatos naman, kataka-takang nakita lang sa area at ang nakakita pa ay si Sabina Dacer, apat na araw matapos matagpuan yung mga “bangkay”. Duda ako diyan.
Ang tanong ko, gaya nga ni sax, patay na nga ba si Dacer?
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It seems Dacer was “erased” …or cleaned up by some janitor ala Michael Clayton?
“All these Erap apologists have selective amnesia. Estrada is a convicted plunderer, period.” -juggernaut
Bakit mo naman naisip na nakalimutan naming convicted plunderer si Erap? Tapos na yun at napagbayaran niya na ang kasalanan niya. Transparent lang talaga si Erap kaya andaming napupuna sa kanya. Kung transparent lang siguro lahat ng politiko, malamang hindi lang si Erap ang pinapansin mo. At least hindi mapagpanggap si Erap, na napapapicture pa sa media na nagdadasal.
Agree ako kay Andres, marami rin dito ang sarado ang isip. Sisihin ba naman si Erap dahil sa pagkaluklok ni Gloria? Sino ba ang nagpababa kay Erap sa pwesto, hindi ba ang mga elitista at mga tao na ayw kay Erap? Karma lang talaga itong pinagdusahan na 8 na taon kay Gloria. Ang hirap nga lang, ang mga taong walng kinalaman sa pagkaluklok kay GMA ay nadamay pa sa karma.
Yung sapatos nahanap apat na araw pagkatapos.
Yung pustiso, six months after bago nahanap. Tulad ng sabi ni Tongue, puwedeng ipagawa uli ang pustiso. So tiyak na bagong gawa ang “nahanap” sa eksena ng krimen.
Tulad ng obserbasyon sa itaas, kung nadurog ang bungo ng sunog, hindi ba dapat tunaw ang pustiso? Paano natakasan ng pustiso ang apoy?
Mirakulo pa, tig-isang pustiso ni Dacer at Corbito ang nalaglag. Masyado namang chamba na yan. Yung sapatos hindi rin nasunog. Hindi pa nilubos, bakit hindi nalaglag ang driver’s license ni Corbito, at credit card ni Dacer?
Like one fellow blogger once said to me “I so insist you watch Michael Clayton!” starring George Clooney add Eraser starring Arnold Schwarzeneger.
..or swordfish – take note of John Travolta’s “misdirection.”
Mananahimik na lang ako. mahirap ng mapagbintangang kasama sa mga pumatay kay Magellan.
@ Perl >> Kung talagang minamahal ng civil society si Cory, dapat buksan ang mga isip nila. Si Cory ay humingi ng tawad kay Erap, ang sabi pa nya “Tao lang kami na nagkakamali” Na realized ng dating pangulo na mali ang Edsa 2.
@ TonGuE-tWisTeD: “Nagkamali si Erap nung nag-iba siya ng ihip at inginuso si Ping. Diyan sila nagkahiwalay.”
Malaking katangahan ang pag-nguso ni Erap kay Ping, kung ang isinalaysay ni Tongue ay totoo. Ngunit, subalit, datapwat, mas higit na tanga si Ping dahil pinatualn niya ito. Ang dapat na ginawa ni Ping ay kausapin ang amo niya ng masinsinan tungkol sa pag-nguso sa kanya ni Erap. Naging katawa-tawa tuloy ang dalawang engot sa mata ng publiko.
Tongue,
Like you, I’m not too sure that Almonte is not in the Dacer “rub out” loop; if Almonte is not far away, Victor Corpuz won’t be far away either.
Btw, correction, it’s Dante Tan (BW) not Dante Ang.
@ Perl >> Kung talagang minamahal ng civil society si Cory, dapat buksan ang mga isip nila. Si Cory ay humingi ng tawad kay Erap, ang sabi pa nya “Tao lang kami na nagkakamali” Na realized ng dating pangulo na mali ang Edsa 2.
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I believe a lot of people here also see the unconstitutional removal of a sitting president is wrong. Especially the shameful way it was carried out, even if Erap was not the best thing that happened to the Philippines, he should still be treated with the respect, dignity and honor due to a country’s president. To this effect, the same treatment should be accorded to all our leaders, no exception, even Gloria…
Jug,
Kung ibig mong sabihin ay igalang si gloria dahil siya ang nasa malakanyang ngayon ay hindi maaaring sang-ayunan dahil hindi siya tunay na hinalal ng sambayanan.
Maaari pa sana ang iyong mungkahi kung nasagot niya nang malinaw ang mga katanungan Hello, Garci scandal. Hindi sapat ang kanyang paawa at paamo effect sa pagsasabi ng “Ay em sori” na pagkatapos ay puro kabalbalana ang kanyang mga pinaggagawa.
Sorry, I can’t walk along with you for that. Iba na lang. Huwag lang si gloria.
I believe a lot of people here also see the unconstitutional removal of a sitting president is wrong?
WRONGgggggg…talaga Kgg. Juggenaut, kaya ito ang puno’t dulo ang ating paghihirap ng kalooban at pagkalugmok ng bansa sa kahihiyan.
Ang simpleng unawain…bakit ang mga nagmamarunong sa ating lipunan e kandado kukote?
Nagsiamin na ang mga key players ng EDSA DOS…nag si pag-I am SORRY na maling-mali ang ginawa nila na agawin ang Malacanang sa lehitimong Pangulo ng bansa?
Nasaan ang ating mga abugago na mga bopol pala sa batas na kanilang pinag-aralan at itong mga mambabatas at constitutionalists kuno na isang ring bobo’t kalahati.
Nakipag-kutsabaan sila sa Principe ng Simbahang Katolika, Militar, Talunan sa eleksyon, Negosyante na di na makaraket, bystanders con Yellow fever wannabees at kaliwa’t kanan na laging laman ng kalye.
Ngayon, magmamapuri pa at kung kani-kanino ibinibintang ang kanilang kapalpakan.
jug,
mahirap bigyan ng respeto ang rehimen ni Gloria, dahil sya mismo ay hindi marunong magbigay respeto sa mamamayan.
@ Perl >> Kung talagang minamahal ng civil society si Cory, dapat buksan ang mga isip nila.
Yaks, nabanggit mo ang mga astig nga grupo Kgg. Bong…wala sa bukabularyo ng mga grupong ito ang kumilala ng pagkakamali, ang alam lang nila e KOREK sila palagi.
Lalo na yang si Lea Navarro, akala saksakan ng galing e row four naman ang kukote. Ang grupong yan ang nagbuyo kay Noynoy upang tumakbo sa 2010, well tutal libre naman ang mangarap so be it…dito sa pagkakataong ito makagaganti ang Masang Pilipino na dinusta nila ang karapatan upang mabuhay ng parehas.
NO TO YELLOW FEVER sa 2010! or else maghahari-harian uli ang mga remnant ng EDSA DOS con HELLO GARCI mafioso? Sila ang salot ng ating lipunan at ngayon heto na naman upang ANO?
Ibaon tayong lahat si hirap…ng sa gayon sila ang matira at magpasasa sa kabang-yaman ng Bansa? ENOUGH na yong 12% VAT and other taxes na pinapasan ngayon ng bayan, saka yong more than 2 trilyong pesos na winaldas ng rehimeng arroyo.
Kung sakali na iboto uli yan ng mga EDSA DOS & Hello Garci fanatics…sure ito na ang tamang oras na ipagdukdukan natin sa kanilang mukha ang hirap na dinanas natin sa kamay nil gloria.
Sila ang puno’t dulo ng lahat ng ito!
Inday, paki-timpla mo nga ako ng kape.
Sorry, mali. Dapat sa Yahoo Messenger ko naipadala. Inaantok na kasi ako.
Hehehe, ikaw talaga tongue…heto at meron akong migraine e napahagalpak mo pa ng tawa.
“To this effect, the same treatment should be accorded to all our leaders, no exception, even Gloria…”
jug, huwag naman si Gloria. That would be disrespecting myself na.
@ Perl >> Kung talagang minamahal ng civil society si Cory, dapat buksan ang mga isip nila. Si Cory ay humingi ng tawad kay Erap, ang sabi pa nya “Tao lang kami na nagkakamali” Na realized ng dating pangulo na mali ang Edsa 2.
Mali ang Edsa2 in what sense?
1. Nabigyan ng pagkakataong makaupo si evil Gloria.
2. Unconstitutional People Power.
3. Corrupt si Erap.
Ano ba dahilan bat nasabi ni Cory na mali sya sa Edsa-2? Definitely because of #1, not 2 and 3.
For me, #3 was enough para patalsikin si Erap… kaya wag sabihin ng iba dito na mali pagpapatalsik kay Erap…
luzviminda – September 24, 2009 8:01 am
“mission accomplished” on bentain”
Baka naman kay Lacson nag-report itong pulis na ito. O kaya kay Tabako. Nag-substitute na naman si Lacson.
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Haler!sa bahay kaya ni Erap sa Polk Street nagreport ung police. Ikaw bang may ari ng bahay na wlang alam sa krimen… papayag kang maging venue ng mga kriminal bahay mo? presidente ka pa man din…
maraming nagsasabi na bobo si Erap, pero hindi sa ganitong situasyon…
Perl, di ko inaaalis ang buong katapatan ang paniniwala mo sa mga ‘kwento’ ni Lacson na puro mga taong walang pangalan.
Mike – September 24, 2009 1:00 pm
@ TonGuE-tWisTeD: “Nagkamali si Erap nung nag-iba siya ng ihip at inginuso si Ping. Diyan sila nagkahiwalay.”
Malaking katangahan ang pag-nguso ni Erap kay Ping, kung ang isinalaysay ni Tongue ay totoo. Ngunit, subalit, datapwat, mas higit na tanga si Ping dahil pinatualn niya ito. Ang dapat na ginawa ni Ping ay kausapin ang amo niya ng masinsinan tungkol sa pag-nguso sa kanya ni Erap. Naging katawa-tawa tuloy ang dalawang engot sa mata ng publiko.
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Mike, Let me rephrase lang
Malaking katangahan ang pag-nguso ni Erap kay Ping [b]kung parehas silang walang kinalaman[/b]. Ngunit, subalit, datapwat, mas higit na tanga si Ping dahil pinatualn niya ito [b]kung alam nyang walang kinalaman si Erap.[/b]
Talaga bang tanga si Erap at sariling desisyon nya ang pagnguso kay Ping? o may nagsusuhol sa kanya na gawin to? sino-sino ba ngayon nasa paligid o adviser ni Erap?hmmm…
To this effect, the same treatment should be accorded to all our leaders, no exception, even Gloria
Tama ka d’yan, jug. Kaya lang, dapat halal. Nawala lang naman ang paggalang ko kay Aling Gloria mula nang pumutok ang “Hello, Garci” e.
Si Aling Gloria, bawal sa mga Muslim. Hindi sila kumakain ng hindi Halal.
Almonte: Sabi ni Dacer sakin, pag may nagyaring masama sa kanya.. si Lacson O Erap ang may gawa.
Erap: Sumulat sakin si Dacer tungkol sa away nila ni
Lacson. Nagalit sa kanya si Lacson dahil pinipigilan ni Dacer ang paghirang kay Lacson bilang PNP Chief
Katulong: Nakita kong minumura ni Lacson si Dacer dahil hindi daw tumupad si dacer sa usapan nila.
ayan na nman… motibo, motibo, motibo!
isa pa, tatahi lang ng istorya, butas butas pa… mabuti pa script sa Recto kahit peke mukhang original.
@Perl, sa ga isinulat mo only one name stands out…hmmnnn…so what do you think?…who’s who?..:)
perl,
Haler ka dyan! Si Erap lang ba ang corrupt? Remember even Cory had her kamag-anak Incorporated, and FVR has his loot in Zurich. Why are you not including them? Si Erap lang ang paboritong punching bag ng middle class o yung gustong magpaka smart na tulad mo. Inggit lang kasi kayo sa totoo lang. Pero dapat buksan ang isip!
Ay naku, after Ping Lacson’s expose, Erap is now trying hard to make a graceful exit. Kaya gusto makipag-usap with the Noynoy camp.Talks being brokered by Jojo Binay.
Yung kanyang bravado about 99.9 percent on with his presidency is nothing but bravado.
He has lost whatever leverage he had before the Lacson expose. Paano kasi naman gagamitin mo ba naman ang masa appeal mo for personal interest.
What he wanted was to have two slots in the senatroial slate, his man in one of the high revenue-earning agencies and protection from any case to be filed against him.
Hindi na sana siya masyado nagpatagal pa. Dapat noon nagdesisyun na siya to just be a “kingmaker” rather than run again.
Nagpasulsul kasi kina Maceda, na gusto rin lang kumita. Ayan, bagsak niya kangkungan
Superkicker – September 25, 2009 12:43 pm
@Perl, sa ga isinulat mo only one name stands out…hmmnnn…so what do you think?…who’s who?..:)
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The question is why”. Gusto nilang patahimikin si Ping, simple! Election season, bawal maglabas ng expose!
@Gabriela: If i remember correctly, The Erap-Noynoy talk made news way back before Ping made his “expose.” It was NOT brought about by the Ping’s speech.
Personal interest ba na matatawag noong inendorso ni Erap ang opposition senatorial slate noong 2007? Noong, hinimok na abandonahin ng kanyang anak na si JV ang pagtakbo sa Senado upang makapasok ang ibang senatoriable ng ibang partido na gustong sumama sa line-up ng opposition?
As to kung siya ay babagsak sa kangkungan, mukhang maaga pa ata upang malaman natin iyan. Hindi pa man nag uumpisa ang kampanya at hindi pa tapos ang eleksyon. Makikita natin yan sa mga susunod na buwan kung siya talaga ay wala na appeal sa masa at sa taumbayan. Sa nakikita kong nangyayari ngayon ay patuloy pa rin ang panliligaw ng mga gustong kumandidato sa eleksyon para hingin ang kanyang endorso at suporta. At sa aking munting palagay, ito ay hindi pagbagsak, kundi pahiwatig ng kanyang mga kasamahan sa liderato at angking clout ni Erap.
Lizcar:”Personal interest ba na matatawag noong inendorso ni Erap ang opposition senatorial slate noong 2007? Noong, hinimok na abandonahin ng kanyang anak na si JV ang pagtakbo sa Senado upang makapasok ang ibang senatoriable ng ibang partido na gustong sumama sa line-up ng opposition?
JV had to abandon his senate run because Jinggoy would field his wife Precy as San Juan mayor and Guia would also have to run to prevent San Juan from going back to Jinggoy’s control.
It was not for love of country.
Hindi nakakatuwa yung competition ng mga pamilya-pamilya na yan ha.
Erap has a kind heart. But as Anna has said a kind heart is not enough to make you a good leader.
JPE is correct. He is the best as a friend. But please naman, huwag na presidente ulit. Ayaw ko na ng inuman at mahjong sa Malacañang.
sabi nga ni Ellen, Gloria is evil but that doesn’t mean Erap is an angel.
Marami naman diyan mga batang leaders. Magsuporta na lang siya.
Tungkol sa opposition unity, ang sabi ni Erap ay hindi mapigilan ang mga opposition candidates sa pagtakbo, katulad nina Villar, Escudero, Aquino, at iba pa. Ibig niyang sabihin hindi niya sila mapigilan na mag give up, pabor sa kanya? Nahuli sa sariling bibig!
People should start to think before voting for Erap.
First, a vote for him might just go to waste. What if his reelection will be decided as unconstitutional Wouldn’t it be good if he firt seek or bring his reelection bid for a decision by appropriate court?
Second, Gabriela is right, just give way to others younger. Patikimin din ang iba or ibang putahe naman. Who knows, baka makajackpot tayo ng gold. (Sana si Noy na yon!)
At marami pang iba. I dont wanna bore readers with a long post.
“Who knows, baka makajackpot tayo ng gold. (Sana si Noy na yon!)”
Hindi lahat ng kumikinang ay ginto! Ayan na naman, mag-aala-tsamba na naman. Pupusta na naman ang mga Pinoy sa manok ng See-evil(civil) society. Sabagay pag nakamarka sa palad eh mangyayari. Kaya lang kailangan nating magdasal na hindi magagamit ang mamamayan sa kanilang mga sariling pagpapasasa!
Hindi kaya mas tamang ibigay sa taumbayan ang desisyon kung gusto pa nila si erap na tumakbo at manalo? tutal ang kapangyarihan ng gobyerno ay nagmumula sa taumbayan. Hayaan na lang natin na ang taumbayan ang magsabi sa darating ng 2010 kung mas gugustuhin nilang ibalik si Erap o pumusta sa mga bago at batang lider/politiko.